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Iran threatens retaliation in case of US military aggression

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The Iranian Foreign Ministry accused U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo of lying because of his statement about Tehran’s alleged involvement in striking oil refineries in Saudi Arabia, and the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps threatened to strike at US military bases in the event of military aggression against Iran.


Iran threatens retaliation in case of US military aggression


According to Amir Ali Hajizade, the commander of the military-space forces of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC), in the event of US military aggression, Iran will strike back at military bases and warships of the United States located in the zone of Iran’s missile destruction. According to him, at the sight of the Iranian military are two US bases and one American ship in the Middle East.

Al-Udeid base in Qatar, al-Zafra base in the UAE and one American ship in the Gulf of Oman are under the gun, and in case of a response from America, we would hit them. All ships and bases located within 2 of thousands of kilometers are within the reach of Iranian missiles

- said Amir Ali Hajizade.

In turn, the Iranian Foreign Ministry denied a statement by the head of the US State Department, Mike Pompeo, about Iran’s alleged involvement in striking factories in Saudi Arabia, calling it "an outright lie inherent in the United States."

Recall that the United States previously accused Iran of droning attacks on oil refineries in Saudi Arabia, despite the fact that its involvement in the strike was recognized by the Yemenite Hussites, who are waging a war against the Arab coalition led by Saudi Arabia. At the same time, the United States has already proposed in response to strike at Iranian oil refineries.
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  1. WILL
    WILL 15 September 2019 11: 26
    +15
    What can I say ... Iranians - did not chew snot! Threat - Threat in return! I hope it doesn’t get to the exchange of blows ... and the Mattresses understand that there WILL NOT be an easy walk on the land of Persia!
    The reaction of the Saudis is noteworthy ... They say we’ll figure it out themselves, they don’t need the “help” of the United States ... they understand that in the event of a batch - the Iranians will really plow half the country and the Husits ​​will begin more serious military operations on the territory of KSA.
    1. Nycomed
      Nycomed 15 September 2019 11: 29
      -47
      "Mattresses understand - an easy walk through the land of Persia WILL NOT!"
      Griboyedov has already "walked" ... stop
      1. KCA
        KCA 15 September 2019 11: 40
        +13
        Read how much the shah of Persia paid for Griboedov and others, now it would be possible not to build a base on the Moon or Mars, but on Jupiter’s orbit
        1. Nycomed
          Nycomed 15 September 2019 11: 44
          -28
          So let's "sell" someone else to them, since they are so generous, and since we are talking about space bases, let's sell them Rogozin?
          1. Andrey Chistyakov
            Andrey Chistyakov 15 September 2019 11: 58
            +17
            Quote: Nycomed
            So let's "sell" someone else to them, since they are so generous, and since we are talking about space bases, let's sell them Rogozin?

            Can I give you? For free.
            1. Nycomed
              Nycomed 15 September 2019 12: 07
              -18
              I do not want the Nazis. I, unlike the Persians, hate Hitler. am
              1. Andrey Chistyakov
                Andrey Chistyakov 15 September 2019 12: 11
                +6
                Quote: Nycomed
                I do not want the Nazis. I, unlike the Persians, hate Hitler. am

                Well yes. All of whom you hate to give something back ?!
          2. KCA
            KCA 15 September 2019 12: 00
            +7
            They paid for Griboedov upon the murder, and not for the sale, or maybe we’ll sell you? Well, 30 pieces of silver will not give, but at least a little
            1. Mestny
              Mestny 15 September 2019 12: 20
              +8
              What silverfish?
              Shekels.
              1. Nycomed
                Nycomed 15 September 2019 12: 24
                -20
                Do shekels go to Hitler’s Iran?
            2. Nycomed
              Nycomed 15 September 2019 20: 05
              -3
              "Griboedov was paid for the murder"
              That is - "order"?
          3. mihai_md2003
            mihai_md2003 16 September 2019 11: 40
            +1
            Bad offer. They will not give anything for Rogozin, moreover, he will have to appoint a pension.
      2. Andrey Chistyakov
        Andrey Chistyakov 15 September 2019 11: 58
        -2
        Quote: Nycomed
        "Mattresses understand - an easy walk through the land of Persia WILL NOT!"
        Griboyedov has already "walked" ... stop

        Khashogi too ...
      3. Sniper
        Sniper 15 September 2019 12: 18
        +5
        you are really a sick person ..
    2. Black_Vatnik
      Black_Vatnik 15 September 2019 11: 33
      +32
      Here, Eun soon showed the whole world that Amers can safely click on their nose, and after that do not worry about the consequences, which, however, most likely will not occur. Eun showed what the Amer threats are worth.
      Like an evil joke.
      - Dad, why did the Americans attack Iraq?
      - Because they were looking for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
      “Why then do they not attack North Korea?”
      - Because North Korea really has such a weapon.
      1. Sniper
        Sniper 15 September 2019 12: 19
        +2
        )) ++++ (rye)
      2. ltc35
        ltc35 15 September 2019 12: 51
        +4
        With North Korea, in principle, they could not burn out anything. China and Russia are close by and there is no way to gently misbehave under any circumstances. There are no powerful allies, without taking into account Japan, which also does not need a big batch. Against Iran, the States will not go on their own right now. Europe is against, and the Saudis are too accustomed to a well-fed and measured life. In this situation, Israel will not come to the aid of an ally. So all the noise just settles down after a while until the next provocation.
      3. loki565
        loki565 15 September 2019 13: 50
        +2
        Eun has no oil and the fact that he will be rolled out with cruise missiles to lobbyists in the USA will not give a shish))) But Iran has it and he just needs to acquire nuclear weapons, of course for self-defense
        1. Black_Vatnik
          Black_Vatnik 15 September 2019 14: 22
          +4
          Eun and without oil a lot of all nishtyakov. And not only resource, but also geopolitical.
          The Americans climbed into Vietnam, Panama and Yugoslavia not for oil. Enough to equate everything with a barrel of oil, this is an amateurish approach.
          1. loki565
            loki565 15 September 2019 14: 30
            0
            Eun and without oil a lot of all nishtyak
            For example, what? Well, China is helping him, but who will help Iran? all its regional allies are already in ruins.
            1. Black_Vatnik
              Black_Vatnik 15 September 2019 14: 46
              +3
              For example, a bunch of all kinds of non-ferrous and ferrous metals. For example, the impossibility for the United States to gain a foothold on the entire peninsula, becoming for China a giant splinter in a soft place. Yes, and I think it will not be very pleasant for us to appear on the peninsula another couple of star-striped bases, somewhere an hour away from Vladivostok.
              1. Nycomed
                Nycomed 15 September 2019 21: 27
                -3
                And an atomic bomb in "an hour's drive from Vladivostok" is it good?
      4. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 15 September 2019 13: 53
        +3
        Quote: Black_Jacket
        rather, Eun showed the whole world

        Duc, Kim and the Persians have long established cooperation. At least in the military-technical field.
        1. Nycomed
          Nycomed 15 September 2019 20: 10
          -3
          "Duc, Kim and the Persians have long established cooperation. At least in the military-technical field."
          Who would argue! There is a gorgeous smuggling exchange. Oil in exchange for weapons.
      5. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 15 September 2019 20: 01
        +2
        Quote: Black_Jacket
        Here, Eun soon showed the whole world that Amers can safely click on their nose, and after that do not worry about the consequences, which, however, most likely will not occur. Eun showed what the Amer threats are worth.

        It was easier for Eun to talk with mattresses, he has from 25 to 40 nuclear charges, which Iran does not have so far, at least officially, but he is not a simple nut for the United States without nuclear weapons.
    3. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 15 September 2019 11: 36
      +5
      Iran simply has nowhere to retreat. It has no other choice, as we had no choice in 1941.
      1. Nycomed
        Nycomed 15 September 2019 11: 49
        -10
        You are absolutely right when mentioning 1941. Then Iran was immediately occupied by Anglo-Soviet troops in the period from August 25 to September 17, 1941. soldier
        1. Nycomed
          Nycomed 15 September 2019 12: 12
          -11
          And here the phrase, so beloved by us, in recent years, would be very appropriate: "WE CAN REPEAT!"
    4. HAM
      HAM 15 September 2019 11: 46
      +8
      ".... The reaction of the Saudis is remarkable .... We'll figure it out ourselves, they don't need" help "from the USA ... they understand that in the event of a batch, the Iranians will actually plow half of the country and the Houthis ...."

      Alexey Alexandrovich, you have noticed everything exactly. Only sooner with the "help" of the Yankees, the CA will be plowed for sure ...
    5. 3danimal
      3danimal 15 September 2019 13: 16
      -3
      Zhirinovsky said the same thing in January 2003: thousands of the most selected warriors will wipe you, Bush, into powder. Erased in a couple of months.
  2. fruit_cake
    fruit_cake 15 September 2019 11: 27
    +1
    and the USA doesn’t need it anymore, because if they hit them, they will untie their hands and spin the flywheel of propaganda to the fullest
  3. Shahno
    Shahno 15 September 2019 11: 28
    +2
    It's a strange bodyag. Political circus on both sides. "Two rams ..." No offense, but very similar.
    1. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 15 September 2019 11: 34
      +5
      What's so strange? There is a struggle for leadership between the US and China. The United States stands behind Israel, and China stands behind Iran. The Middle East is a very important region in this struggle.
      1. Nycomed
        Nycomed 15 September 2019 12: 27
        -2
        China does not stand behind anyone. China, confidently enough, covers its own. And other people's "backs", as well as other parts of organisms, they do not need.
  4. dirk182
    dirk182 15 September 2019 11: 30
    +3
    it’s even interesting who is so stubbornly trying to push the United States and Iran with their foreheads ... Trump has already removed Bolton, but, apparently, he is only a guide. Interest is not defined.
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 15 September 2019 11: 41
      +4
      Quote: dirk182
      Interest is not defined.

      I dare to suggest. China may be of interest ... China buys oil in Iran, and sneezed on sanctions.
      1. Nycomed
        Nycomed 15 September 2019 12: 30
        -2
        Of course buys! And not only China, but, for example, the EU and the DPRK. For one simple reason: oil in Iran is contraband, which means its price is lower than the exchange one. Everything is simple. hi
        1. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 15 September 2019 13: 33
          +7
          Quote: Nycomed
          Iran is contraband, which means its price is lower than the exchange one. Everything is simple.

          I dare say that the exchange does NOT sell OIL, but futures for its delivery. Moreover, these pieces of paper are 10 times more than real oil. Therefore, the price of contracts (usually long-term contracts) is a commercial secret. It was high time to put things in order in this mess, but oil futures are one of the most powerful tools to keep green papers afloat ...
      2. maden.usmanow
        maden.usmanow 15 September 2019 13: 23
        0
        China is not profitable for the American war with Iran.
        Oil will become gold; China will go broke buying it.
    2. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 15 September 2019 11: 41
      +3
      Here, it’s rather an attempt to pit the Arabs with the Persians so that Iran deals the main blow to the SA, and then they can finish off both of them. Turkey will be constrained by the West-backed Kurdistan.
      1. Nycomed
        Nycomed 15 September 2019 12: 33
        0
        And what is the point of playing the Arabs against the Persians? They have already been "pitted" against each other since "before Columbus" times.
  5. Shahno
    Shahno 15 September 2019 11: 38
    +3
    Quote: Sky Strike fighter
    What's so strange? There is a struggle for leadership between the US and China. The United States stands behind Israel, and China stands behind Iran. The Middle East is a very important region in this struggle.

    This is not monstrous. I think China is standing aside. Looks over who will take.
    // China. The United States stands behind Israel, and //
    It’s also not obvious who is behind whose back ..
  6. Kontrik
    Kontrik 15 September 2019 11: 39
    -5
    Iranian Foreign Ministry accuses US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo of lying

    They are to the west "At least piss in the eyes, everything is God's dew" .. The Middle East froze in anticipation of another massacre .. Whoever unleashed it, I think it's useless to poke a finger (everyone knows everything)
    What the hell is Israel all about? Why don’t you live peacefully then? All you have ... negative
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 15 September 2019 11: 49
      +1
      What the hell is Israel all about?

      This is a suburban American cottage, that's why.
      1. 3danimal
        3danimal 15 September 2019 13: 18
        0
        No. And not always their relationship was as it is now.
        Do not deny the subjectivity of small countries.
  7. Shahno
    Shahno 15 September 2019 11: 47
    +1
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Quote: dirk182
    Interest is not defined.

    I dare to suggest. Can China be interesting ... China buys oil in Iran, and sneezed on sanctions.

    And again. I do not think that China considers this as its strategic interest. ..Buys. There will be problems, they’ll buy it in another place.
  8. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 15 September 2019 11: 48
    +1
    Yankees with Jews all unleash conflict in BV
    1. ltc35
      ltc35 15 September 2019 14: 08
      -1
      This is unlikely. Israel does not need to escalate the conflict in this region. In this case, autonomies will begin movers, which they have so far successfully extinguished by special services. Upon receipt of weapons from the conflict zone (and it will certainly begin to arrive), everything will become very complicated.
  9. V1er
    V1er 15 September 2019 11: 58
    -4
    Americans will not make war before the election. They have elections on November 3. For 1.5 months, it will not be possible to arrange a quick victorious war, but they can play with muscles. During elections, the entire political elite is usually very busy with permutations and personal situation.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 15 September 2019 12: 15
      +8
      The presidential election on November 3, 2020 - in a year.
      1. V1er
        V1er 15 September 2019 12: 16
        0
        Thank you for correcting. I had incorrect information.
    2. asv363
      asv363 15 September 2019 12: 30
      +2
      Quote: V1er
      They have elections on November 3.

      They have a presidential election in the United States on November 3, 2020. Unfortunately, there is time.
  10. cniza
    cniza 15 September 2019 12: 14
    0
    At the same time, the United States has already proposed in response to strike at Iranian oil refineries.


    How the United States wants to unleash a war, but they themselves are afraid, they will look for "alien" hands ...
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 15 September 2019 12: 19
      +2
      Israel and Saudi Arabia are two alien hands for this.
      1. cniza
        cniza 15 September 2019 12: 21
        +3
        Quite an option, but a lot of questions.
  11. Guards turn
    Guards turn 15 September 2019 12: 23
    0
    Iran will not be shy, mattresses beat only those who can’t give change, Iran has something to answer.
  12. dolfi1
    dolfi1 15 September 2019 12: 50
    -1
    Well, actually it’s an open secret that Iran is behind the Hussites. And by the way there are rumors that the attack was generally from Iraq and supposedly found Iranian missiles. That is, they attacked not only with drones, but also missiles. So far, all this is not completely clear, except for one fact, Iran is behind the attack, directly or indirectly.
    1. awg75
      awg75 15 September 2019 17: 33
      -1
      Israel and Saudi Arabia, among others, pay for the persecution of Iran, nightmare Yemen and strike at Iranian forces in Syria, sponsor ISIS militants. what questions can there be when Iran answers. I think it is right when the "unknown forces" begin to work across Israel, not with that children's pyrotechnics, but with a serious bang. you are like those ukranopiteki who are constantly messing around, and how the answer flies, "ARE WE FOR SHO?"
      1. 3danimal
        3danimal 15 September 2019 18: 16
        +2
        Exactly. Israel sponsors ISIS militants who, like most radical Islamists, want to destroy it))
        What to take from them: such intriguers ...)
      2. 3danimal
        3danimal 15 September 2019 18: 21
        +3
        Examine the latest conflicts involving Israel and its responses to attacks. If serious "baboons" fly, there will be a fairly large military operation.
    2. Nycomed
      Nycomed 15 September 2019 20: 16
      -2
      Of course! The Husids themselves did not sculpt these rockets on their knees from donkey and camel dung.
  13. APASUS
    APASUS 15 September 2019 13: 08
    +5
    Elections in Israel on the nose, guess who benefits from it?
  14. 3danimal
    3danimal 15 September 2019 13: 22
    -6
    To defeat clerical Iran, we need a new Bush Jr., IMHO.
    After that, the situation in the region will become less tense.
    1. The Siberian barber
      The Siberian barber 15 September 2019 13: 48
      +10
      Give an example: where there was silence and order, after the arrival of American soldiers?
      1. 3danimal
        3danimal 15 September 2019 18: 04
        +1
        Iraq in its current form will not create WMD (chemistry or nuclear weapons). This they have achieved. ISIS appeared, but now it has completely weakened under the blows. And he does not have the capacity to create a bomb.
        In West Germany there was silence and order (and better living conditions than in East), in South Korea, everything is now more than obvious. A lot depends on the population.
        Iran openly declares its goal to destroy Israel (which will be very bad for the region and the developed part of the world in general), trying to create nuclear weapons.
        1. The Siberian barber
          The Siberian barber 15 September 2019 18: 18
          +3
          WMD found in Iraq (Powell test tube, not counted)? )))
          And ask the German, from Leipzig, for reflection on the GDR))) by the way there are no Americans.
          Regarding Israel's policy, yes, it is extremely peaceful, and only defensive. But, surprisingly: since the foundation, "a little swollen")))
          Py, Sy we do not accept for anti-Semitism, if only because there are friends
          1. Shahno
            Shahno 15 September 2019 18: 25
            +3
            And you do not confuse peace and pacifism, peace and infantilism. And everything you grow together ..
            1. The Siberian barber
              The Siberian barber 15 September 2019 20: 29
              +1
              good I agree, but there is a gain)
          2. 3danimal
            3danimal 15 September 2019 18: 28
            0
            Let's ask the victims when trying to cross the wall between East and West Berlin. And compare how many fled to the West, and how much - to the East.
            There is a version that weapons of mass destruction from Iraq were taken to Syria (as part of the aircraft they were transferred there in 1991, when the Coalition “closed” the sky).
            Examine the circumstances under which Israel took control of the Golan (6 Day War and Doomsday War). As well as the history of its creation (as well as a number of neighboring states).
            1. Nycomed
              Nycomed 15 September 2019 20: 25
              -2
              The aviation was transferred to Iran (as it turned out later, it was given to Iran). And under Assad the elder Syria was an official member of the Anti-Iraqi Coalition. They were such strong Arab "friends", Grandfather Saddam and Grandfather Hafiz. fellow
              1. 3danimal
                3danimal 15 September 2019 20: 30
                -1
                Sorry, wrong hi
                About friends: it’s fun to see a number of visitors dreaming of a united Arab front against (for some reason) Israel, which they dislike. )
                1. Nycomed
                  Nycomed 15 September 2019 20: 43
                  -2
                  There is no united Arab front, there has not been and cannot be. They each other more like throats.
            2. The Siberian barber
              The Siberian barber 15 September 2019 20: 37
              +1
              "There is a version" that the grandmother is still a grandfather))) sorry)
              The history of the state of Israel, I know))
            3. Sanichsan
              Sanichsan 16 September 2019 16: 31
              0
              Quote: 3danimal
              Let's ask the victims when trying to cross the wall between East and West Berlin. And compare how many fled to the West, and how much - to the East.

              let’s better ask the 2 million East Germans left without work when their businesses were closed.
              why do you constantly appeal to the opinion of the miserable tens of thousands of marginals who galloped on the wreckage of the Berlin wall? let's accept the opinion of the majority, and not the noisy, protesting, insignificant minority.
              Quote: 3danimal
              There is a version that weapons of mass destruction from Iraq were taken to Syria (as part of the aircraft they were transferred there in 1991, when the Coalition “closed” the sky).
              you still talk about rptiloidov .. wassat
              Quote: 3danimal
              Examine the circumstances under which Israel took control of the Golan (6 Day War and Doomsday War). As well as the history of its creation (as well as a number of neighboring states).

              Are you talking about peace? as far as I remember in the 6 day war, Israel was the first to attack wink no need to talk about the coalition of Arabs and what they gathered there, I just state the fact - Israel is an aggressor. yes, they won, but the label is now with them forever and they can’t wash off. Yes, by the way, they’re not really trying laughing are you here for some reason crucify request
              1. 3danimal
                3danimal 16 September 2019 17: 16
                0
                About the Germans: explain why there were so many who fled to the West that they even had to put up a wall, and to the east - there were few disappearing? Why was it necessary to keep such a huge staff of Stasi (and even more informants)?
                1. Sanichsan
                  Sanichsan 16 September 2019 17: 27
                  0
                  Quote: 3danimal
                  About the Germans: explain why there were so many who fled to the West that they even had to put up a wall, and to the east - there were few disappearing?

                  how much? 100? 200? 1000?
                  But you are right, not all Germans were comfortable staying in the Soviet zone of occupation after the Second World War ... or do you know nothing about the "exploits" of the Wehrmacht?
                  Quote: 3danimal
                  Why was it necessary to keep such a huge staff of Stasi (and even more informants)?

                  actually in West Germany they weren’t friends at all .. well, if you suddenly forgot that there was a cold war and all that, and Berlin is the place where the geopolitical enemies most closely contacted.
                  if you still don’t understand any obvious things, ask. I will tell hi
                  1. 3danimal
                    3danimal 16 September 2019 17: 43
                    0
                    From 51 to 89, more than 200 thousand. Only through Berlin - 10 thousand. About 1000 dead while trying to escape through the wall. Orders to shoot at all fugitives, including children.
                    Normal totalitarian practice, assuming that people are the property of the state.
                    1. Sanichsan
                      Sanichsan 16 September 2019 17: 54
                      0
                      so through the wall 10k. right? 1k banged, right? this is an average of 250 per year and 25 dead. and for the sake of these 10k it was necessary to break the lives of several million East Germans ???
                      Quote: 3danimal
                      Normal totalitarian practice, assuming that people are the property of the state.

                      Well, of course! whether it’s a civilized, democratic Europe where demonstrations were shot and the last human zoo was closed in 56. here is a role model! wassat
                      1. 3danimal
                        3danimal 16 September 2019 17: 57
                        0
                        You forgot about 200+ thousand more
                      2. Sanichsan
                        Sanichsan 17 September 2019 14: 36
                        0
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        You forgot about 200+ thousand more

                        and you lied that 1000 people died while trying to escape through the Berlin wall. total killed 136 people. but it’s good that you lied like that .. now it’s clear that all your numbers can be easily divided by 10 laughing
                        By the way, according to your logic, it’s time to abolish Ukraine. there already more than 20000 civilians died and several million fled to Russia ...
                        Are you ready to join the movement to eliminate this Ukrainian misunderstanding? wink
                      3. 3danimal
                        3danimal 17 September 2019 16: 28
                        0
                        Without support from Russia, the war would have ended long ago and there were significantly fewer victims. As if the militants in Chechnya were not helped by a number of Islamic countries and groups.
                        The total number of deaths is called up to 1000. More likely is something average: 500-600. Which is also a lot. People, in fact, lived in a colony settlement.
                      4. Sanichsan
                        Sanichsan 17 September 2019 18: 02
                        0
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        Without support from Russia, the war would have ended long ago and there were significantly fewer victims.

                        in Odessa tell it ...
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        As if the militants in Chechnya were not helped by a number of Islamic countries and groups.

                        if Western intelligence had not been campaigning and recruiting work in East Berlin, there would have been no victims? belay is logical ... that is, they essentially killed the West? illegal border crossing usually ends poorly. didn't you know?
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        The total number of deaths is called up to 1000. More likely is something average: 500-600. Which is also a lot. People, in fact, lived in a colony settlement.

                        more likely that nonsense ...
                        Do you also believe in the Solzhenitsen millions shot by Stalin? laughing
                        was officially shot while trying illegal border crossing in Berlin, 136 people.
                      5. 3danimal
                        3danimal 17 September 2019 18: 50
                        0
                        Of course, local propaganda explained that those who tried / successfully fled to the West were lured / bought by the special services of the imperialists. But it was not the desire to live closer to relatives or to realize better that those people moved. Who in their right mind might want to leave paradise? ) But they didn’t let him out, for some reason. And orders to shoot men, women were not signed by "agents of the West." And the wall was built so as not to lose the population (including specialists).
                        I repeat, in terms of the number of Stasi employees per 1000 people, the GDR noticeably outstripped the Union.
                      6. Sanichsan
                        Sanichsan 18 September 2019 14: 09
                        0
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        Of course, local propaganda explained that those who tried / successfully fled to the West were lured / bought by the special services of the imperialists.

                        hmm .. was this propaganda wrong? didn't the special services of the imperialists "lured / bought"? wink
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        But it was not the desire to live closer to relatives or to realize better that those people moved.
                        or the desire to avoid just punishment for their "exploits" during the Second World War. Let me remind you that in the FRG many war criminals did not even hide. where was Banderka calmed down? Could you tell? such a trash and ran. Something I do not sympathize with them at all. judging by your sympathy, apparently this is your contingent.
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        But they didn’t let him out, for some reason. And orders to shoot men, women were not signed by "agents of the West."

                        what belay wake up! you're delusional! fellow it state border and if it is violated, the border guards will shoot, regardless of which side they are on. if they certainly do their job ... both Soviet and Western will shoot. they have such a job.
                        I'm just wondering, are you seriously ready to declare that everyone from the west was released? remind where the physicists who transmitted the data on the "Manhattan" project were released?
                        By the way, how did the border appear in Berlin? Who came up with the divide Germany? Could you tell?
                      7. 3danimal
                        3danimal 17 September 2019 12: 32
                        0
                        We can recall the shooting of strikers in Novocherkassk. In the country of "workers and peasants" ...
                        Until the mid-19th century, most Russians were slaves. At the same time, black slaves were brought to the USA, the number of which did not exceed 25%. Both that, and that is bad. You can delve into the Stone Age, when absolutely all the tribes (and our ancestors, too) went through the practices of cannibalism.
                        We are talking about the present tense.
                      8. Sanichsan
                        Sanichsan 17 September 2019 14: 31
                        0
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        We can recall the shooting of strikers in Novocherkassk. In the country of "workers and peasants" ...
                        Of course we can. 1.
                        here briefly for people with a very washed head.
                        https://aryja.livejournal.com/976050.html
                        this is only in the USA. without the rest of the "civilized world".
                      9. 3danimal
                        3danimal 17 September 2019 18: 52
                        0
                        We can - remember. But there, among the military, there were real heroes who refused to fulfill the vile and criminal order. What cost them a career and criminal prosecution.
                      10. Sanichsan
                        Sanichsan 18 September 2019 13: 48
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                        Quote: 3danimal
                        But there, among the military, there were real heroes who refused to fulfill the vile and criminal order.

                        I don’t remember such heroes in the USA or Europe ... apparently quite a lousy folk ...
              2. 3danimal
                3danimal 16 September 2019 17: 19
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                In the 6-day war, the Israelis simply ahead of the Arabs by a day or two. So the Union would have been known as an aggressor in the eyes of the Nazis, had it launched an offensive (and had time to prepare) on June 20, 1941.
                It was not possible to give back the Golan, because this is an excellent platform for shelling Israeli settlements.
                1. Sanichsan
                  Sanichsan 16 September 2019 17: 31
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                  Quote: 3danimal
                  In the 6-day war, the Israelis simply ahead of the Arabs by a day or two. So the Union would have been known as an aggressor in the eyes of the Nazis, had it launched an offensive (and had time to prepare) on June 20, 1941.

                  but the USSR was not known, but Israel was the aggressor. This is a historical fact. request
                  by the way about "start an offensive (and have time to prepare) on June 20, 1941."This is from the works of Joseph Goebbels from the time of 41. your idol? laughing
                  1. 3danimal
                    3danimal 16 September 2019 17: 53
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                    Demagogy. It is no secret that the Arabs were preparing the offensive.
                    Then the discovery was their cowardice.
                    History has put everything in its place. For me personally, Israel is more valuable / useful than Egypt and Syria. Should I or family members need to perform a complicated operation, we will not go to Egypt (this applies to everyone). The drones purchased by the Russian Armed Forces are also not Syrian, for some reason.
                    1. Sanichsan
                      Sanichsan 16 September 2019 18: 04
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                      Quote: 3danimal
                      Demagogy. It is no secret that the Arabs were preparing the offensive.

                      not demagogy, but a historical fact. whether you like it or not. wink
                      Quote: 3danimal
                      History has put everything in its place.

                      this sounds especially disgusting in this context. negative It is with this wording that the European Nazis demolish the monuments of Soviet wars for the liberators.
                      Quote: 3danimal
                      For me personally, Israel is more valuable / useful than Egypt and Syria.

                      Well, in that context, yes. a fat woman is better for meat in hungry times for more ... for some. laughing
                      Quote: 3danimal
                      Should I or family members need to perform a complicated operation, we will not go to Egypt (this applies to everyone). The drones purchased by the Russian Armed Forces are also not Syrian, for some reason.
                      if you’ve completely lost touch with reality, then the surgeons here are no worse than in Israel and the drones are already ours ... so for some reason from France children are coming to treat us and not to Israel ...
                      1. 3danimal
                        3danimal 16 September 2019 18: 07
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                        Drones Outpost / Searcher II, google.
                        Ours are in development. “Tomorrow already” will appear.
                        And when did you and I switched "to you" ??
                      2. Sanichsan
                        Sanichsan 17 September 2019 14: 10
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                        of Russia
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        Ours are in development. “Tomorrow already” will appear.

                        ale garage !!! laughing Outpost is one of more than 1 models produced in Russia wink not "Tomorrow", but serial and accepted for service.
                        although ... in your 1975 it is quite possible that everything is really so sad ... request
                      3. 3danimal
                        3danimal 16 September 2019 18: 16
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                        Not fat, but smart, adequate, able to earn money. On the contrary, the poor "kid".
                      4. Sanichsan
                        Sanichsan 17 September 2019 14: 04
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                        I remind you that the best friend of Israel is the United States. The United States officially considers Russia a geopolitical enemy. that is, we are obviously with Israel on opposite sides of the barricades. Of course, within the framework of the geopolitical strategy, Russia and Israel have common ground but this does not change the basis of the above.
  15. Shahno
    Shahno 15 September 2019 13: 27
    +1
    Quote: 3danimal
    Zhirinovsky said the same thing in January 2003: thousands of the most selected warriors will wipe you, Bush, into powder. Erased in a couple of months.

    If they really plan and strike from all sides, of course, the Iranian regime will not pull ... Most likely, the world will be concluded on conditions unacceptable to the Iranians.
    It's just that the whole thing is that defeated Iran is not interesting to anyone. Neither the EU, nor strange even Israel .. yes
  16. Rostislav
    Rostislav 15 September 2019 13: 47
    -1
    Why "threatened"? A play on words and an attempt to present Iran as an aggressor? From the series, if ours, then "scout", if theirs, then "shpien".
    I just warned the "exceptional", who are increasingly losing their shores in labeling and voicing unsubstantiated accusations.
  17. faterdom
    faterdom 15 September 2019 14: 05
    +4
    And what, good, by the way, thought, frightening and frightening each other, waking tan Saudi Arabia.
    "Look to me, I'll do it for you like this!" - the United States shouts to Iran and - once, in the face of the Saudis!
    "But, but, do not forget, you can get change, too! Like this, for example!" - Iran answers. And - once, in the face of the Saud.
    And interestingly, the goals coincide, for both KSA countries - a competitor in oil production, and an existential enemy (in fact of its existence and positioning in this sublunar world).
    Although, formally, one KSA is a key ally in the BV, the other is a fierce enemy unworthy to exist in the Muslim world.
    But all US allies must understand that at any moment they can be sacrificed to the interests of the United States - after all, this is what they exist for, even if they consider themselves partners. A herd of bulls, up to a certain point, also considers the shepherd as a "partner" whose purpose is only to take care of them, so beautiful. And they are not confused by all the illogicality of such a construction.
  18. Babermetis
    Babermetis 15 September 2019 14: 13
    +1
    Quote: Shahno
    Quote: 3danimal
    Zhirinovsky said the same thing in January 2003: thousands of the most selected warriors will wipe you, Bush, into powder. Erased in a couple of months.

    If they really plan and strike from all sides, of course, the Iranian regime will not pull ... Most likely, the world will be concluded on conditions unacceptable to the Iranians.
    It's just that the whole thing is that defeated Iran is not interesting to anyone. Neither the EU, nor strange even Israel .. yes


    Just Israel would be very interested in a regime change in Iran! It’s more interesting to work with Persians than with Arabs. All clever Arabs are moving across America and Europe.
    1. dolfi1
      dolfi1 15 September 2019 19: 40
      +1
      How would you explain, you are right and not. Israel doesn’t give a damn about regime change, while the ayatollahs didn’t want an atomic bomb. They had previously promised to destroy Israel, but they did not have an atomic bomb. Now it’s practically there, and this is an existential threat.
      1. Babermetis
        Babermetis 15 September 2019 22: 19
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        Quote: dolfi1
        How would you explain, you are right and not. Israel doesn’t give a damn about regime change, while the ayatollahs didn’t want an atomic bomb. They had previously promised to destroy Israel, but they did not have an atomic bomb. Now it’s practically there, and this is an existential threat.


        A very loud statement on your part, saying that Israel does not care how their close neighbors are behaving. Of course, Israel so far is not Russia, in terms of how to behave in relation to the neighbors closest to the border and those who are further away ... but Russia's experience shows that it is better to manage the processes yourself.
        1. dolfi1
          dolfi1 16 September 2019 02: 54
          +1
          The neighbors were quite distant 2 thousand km until they leaked to our borders in the form of Hezbollah, various jihads in Gaza and Syria, and so on. Do not compare the population and territories of Russia and Israel. The whole of Israel is the size of the "island of Crimea". Therefore, the only option for Israel in the event of a serious threat is a preemptive strike. Well, where it turns out, diplomacy works, something like that.
  19. awg75
    awg75 15 September 2019 17: 11
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    ears stick out that's for sure)))
  20. Nadir shah
    Nadir shah 15 September 2019 17: 26
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    Quote: Nycomed
    And here the phrase, so beloved by us, in recent years, would be very appropriate: "WE CAN REPEAT!"

    not this time.
  21. Nadir shah
    Nadir shah 15 September 2019 17: 28
    +1
    Quote: ltc35
    This is unlikely. Israel does not need to escalate the conflict in this region. In this case, autonomies will begin movers, which they have so far successfully extinguished by special services. Upon receipt of weapons from the conflict zone (and it will certainly begin to arrive), everything will become very complicated.

    why do they maintain the flame of war in Syria? very peaceful Jews, however.
  22. Nadir shah
    Nadir shah 15 September 2019 17: 29
    +1
    Quote: 3danimal
    To defeat clerical Iran, we need a new Bush Jr., IMHO.
    After that, the situation in the region will become less tense.

    just like in Iraq and Libya, right?
  23. Nadir shah
    Nadir shah 15 September 2019 17: 30
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    Quote: Shahno
    Quote: 3danimal
    Zhirinovsky said the same thing in January 2003: thousands of the most selected warriors will wipe you, Bush, into powder. Erased in a couple of months.

    If they really plan and strike from all sides, of course, the Iranian regime will not pull ... Most likely, the world will be concluded on conditions unacceptable to the Iranians.
    It's just that the whole thing is that defeated Iran is not interesting to anyone. Neither the EU, nor strange even Israel .. yes

    no one doubts this, but at the same time, the democrats will wash themselves in full blood. There are no fools sitting there.
  24. Shahno
    Shahno 15 September 2019 17: 31
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    Quote: Nadir Shah
    Quote: ltc35
    This is unlikely. Israel does not need to escalate the conflict in this region. In this case, autonomies will begin movers, which they have so far successfully extinguished by special services. Upon receipt of weapons from the conflict zone (and it will certainly begin to arrive), everything will become very complicated.

    why do they maintain the flame of war in Syria? very peaceful Jews, however.

    Well, as if there is a controlled local conflict. And there is just bang bang. The difference, however.
  25. Shahno
    Shahno 15 September 2019 18: 20
    +1
    Quote: APASUS
    Elections in Israel on the nose, guess who benefits from it?

    So, the Russian President hinted that he would not want a change of power in the Jewish state ...
  26. Lieutenant Colonel of the USSR Air Force in stock
    -1
    Quote: ltjpqbet
    Quote: APASUS
    well at least I didn’t accuse of anti-Semitism

    Stupidity and anti-Semitism are two different things. I do not confuse them. smile

    Stupidity and anti-Semitism are two different things, but usually one suggests the other!
  27. Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 16 September 2019 02: 28
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    The blow has been dealt, oil has risen in price, and now let anyone understand all this and look for those to blame, only a strong one will not let himself be offended.
  28. Shahno
    Shahno 16 September 2019 18: 03
    -1
    Quote: 3danimal
    Demagogy. It is no secret that the Arabs were preparing the offensive.
    Then the discovery was their cowardice.
    History has put everything in its place. For me personally, Israel is more valuable / useful than Egypt and Syria. Should I or family members need to perform a complicated operation, we will not go to Egypt (this applies to everyone). The drones purchased by the Russian Armed Forces are also not Syrian, for some reason.

    Clear. Your thought, yes. When I went to campus there. How on 20 years ago he returned. When not a professor, but a student. It was great ...
    PS. Do not be shy. Ha kol interviewer. My first teacher was Fakheri. ..Yes, I already dragged my ex-wife here. Previously, there was a laboratory assistant, but now a specialist in the brain research laboratory. I'm a troll. wink