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In Ukraine, again proposed to rewrite history books

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In Ukraine, once again offered to rewrite textbooks stories. This time it is proposed to remove from them all references to friendship with Russia. The Minister of Education of Ukraine Anna Novosad made a corresponding proposal during a speech in Kiev at the Yalta European Strategy forum.


In Ukraine, again proposed to rewrite history books


According to Novosad, the past five years after the “revolution” showed that Russia is an enemy of Ukraine, and in history books it is still written about friendship with the “aggressor”. Therefore, she was convinced that history books should be rewritten and any mention of friendship with Russia removed from there.

The revolution of 2013-2014 and the war that began after changing the political identity and consciousness of society in different ways, and this must be reflected in the programs of our schools, in textbooks, in the way teachers teach. Five years have passed, and in many textbooks it is written that Russia is a friend of Ukraine, we still recall friendly relations with our enemy, so much needs to be changed here

- she said.

Novosad claims that all the problems of Ukrainian school education lie in the "inherited Soviet education system", which is built solely on fear that permeates all relationships.

The Ukrainian school, unfortunately, accepted the negatives of the Soviet system. It is often built on fear that permeates all relationships: teacher-student, teacher-director, director-parents. If we do not take away this fear, which fetters creativity and the ability to dialogue, then we will not be able to talk about successful citizens

- stressed the Minister of Education of Ukraine.

Note that the rewriting of history textbooks in Ukraine came to grips immediately after the Maidan coup. Moreover, textbooks often contain information that does not have historical confirmation, and historical facts are specially distorted to show the greatness of Ukraine and its “thousand-year history”. Also included in the textbooks are topics that have no historical significance, such as the history of the creation of the Orthodox Church of Ukraine (PCU) and the provision of a tomos about autocephaly. Now the story of how Poroshenko bought a tomos will be studied in 11 classes.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 15 September 2019 09: 43
    +9
    When the cat has nothing to do - he ... knows. what to do.
    In general - Faberge to you in Svidomo hands!
    1. WILL
      WILL 15 September 2019 10: 00
      +31
      Quote: Victor_B
      When the cat has nothing to do - he ... knows. what to do.
      In general - Faberge to you in Svidomo hands!

      Well, with the non-brothers, everything is clear ... but, And we need to deal closely with the History textbooks, according to which our Kids learn. A history textbook for grade 9 ... half a page description of the Battle of Stalingrad, half page description of the Battle of Kursk .... 5,5 pages description of the attack on Pearl Harbor ... well, what the buoy (the float is attached to the bottom) Russia needs such textbooks stories whose story our kids teach? request
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 15 September 2019 10: 04
        +12

        Minister of Education of Ukraine
        In Ukraine, so far, everyone who was on Maidan in 2013-2014 will not be appointed ministers or deputies - will they not calm down?
        1. boriz
          boriz 15 September 2019 11: 34
          +2
          So in vain, did they jump?
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 15 September 2019 14: 35
            +3
            Anna Novosad is another MAIDANUA Ukrainian racist and Russophobic woman, 29 years old, nee in the Vinnitsa region, educated including abroad and an internship in Canada.

            CAREER
            In the Verkhovna Rada, the minister passed from the "Servant of the people", in the party list she was number 50.
            In the Ministry of Education and Science, Novosad has already worked since 2014: she was an adviser to the Minister of Education Sergey Kvita (2007-2014). Over time, Novosad became the Director General of the Directorate of Strategic Planning and European Integration of the Ministry of Education and Science of Ukraine.

            EDUCATION
            She studied at the Ukrainian Humanitarian Lyceum under the T.N. Shevchenko National University of Kyiv.
            She received a bachelor's degree in political science at the National University of the Kiev-Mohyla Academy (NaUKMA).
            Novosad also received a master's degree in European studios from the University of Maastricht Netherlands.
            She was a member of the Ukrainian-Canadian parliamentary program.
            From 2012 to 2013, she completed an internship in analytical centers of the Czech Republic and Spain. On the Novosad Facebook page, experience is shown in the Canadian Parliament.

            The newly elected minister is also a scholarship holder of the Soros Open Society Foundation.
        2. beeper
          beeper 15 September 2019 13: 52
          +4
          Wow, zelenkina "ministerka", Nyurka-maydaunitsa, wrapped herself up "under the camera" with the state flag, mockingly "squeezed" him with a knot and foolishly "smiled" - this is not a criminal offense - "public mockery" of the Petlyura-Banderist "zhovs" -blakytny ensign "?! winked
          Where are the Ukrainian "law enforcement officers" looking, after all, among the Maydauns, such mockery of "state symbols" is already in the order of things, because even "below the belt" they tattoo themselves "tridents" with impunity, and after all, nothing happens for this, even in "uryad" maydaunsky appointed, what good will she teach children ??! smile
      2. kefan
        kefan 15 September 2019 10: 08
        +12
        I completely agree with you, and as for Ukraine, so Petsya, that Ze, by and large one field of berries.
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 15 September 2019 10: 15
          +10
          Quote: kefan
          so Petsya, that Ze, by and large one field of berries.

          Where does the cow graze from? And about one field - right. yes
      3. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
        SERGEY SERGEEVICS 15 September 2019 10: 36
        +1
        Quote: ANIMAL
        Quote: Victor_B
        When the cat has nothing to do - he ... knows. what to do.
        In general - Faberge to you in Svidomo hands!

        Well, with the non-brothers, everything is clear ... but, And we need to deal closely with the History textbooks, according to which our Kids learn. A history textbook for grade 9 ... half a page description of the Battle of Stalingrad, half page description of the Battle of Kursk .... 5,5 pages description of the attack on Pearl Harbor ... well, what the buoy (the float is attached to the bottom) Russia needs such textbooks stories whose story our kids teach? request

        And the rest, filled with colonial wars of England. It was not bad here to adopt the experience of Soviet scientists in writing and compiling textbooks.
      4. Ascold1901
        Ascold1901 15 September 2019 11: 09
        +5
        Just like Western historians. The German Tipelskirch fighting two or three divisions of Rommel occupy more space than Stalingrad and Kursk combined. The Englishman Liddel Garth is almost the same. The American Fuller (it seems the last name is correct, I could not finish reading it)
      5. Saul_Rhen
        Saul_Rhen 15 September 2019 12: 57
        0
        You will not be unfounded and indicate the author, right?
      6. Nycomed
        Nycomed 15 September 2019 13: 03
        -5
        I agree with Stalingrad and Kursk - it's just offensive! And on the other hand, in Soviet times, in history books, the US war with Japan was limited only to the description of the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. So, distortions, they have always been and will be depending on the specific political situation in the country at a given time. Thank God, my grandfather left a gorgeous library including and a lot of books on WWII and international relations published in the 50-60s, so I didn’t even open history books when I was at school.
      7. Beringovsky
        Beringovsky 15 September 2019 14: 34
        +2
        What kind of textbook, who are the authors?
        1. WILL
          WILL 15 September 2019 14: 38
          -1
          History of Russia Grade 9 ed. Enlightenment edited by Danilov and Kosulina.
          1. Beringovsky
            Beringovsky 15 September 2019 14: 39
            +1
            That's how "enlightenment" ... belay
            Thanks, I will look for reptiles in tyrnet.
        2. Alex Justice
          Alex Justice 16 September 2019 16: 24
          0
          Excellent textbook: Domestic history for lower schools. Compiled by S. Rozhdestvensky. Release 1910, the price of 60 kopecks.
          No propaganda, good textbook, re-read many times.
    2. Kontrik
      Kontrik 15 September 2019 10: 02
      +2
      History will put everything in its place sooner or later and this process is already underway! No wonder the West is in terrible hysteria. It is trying to crush Russia and our calm voice telling the whole truth what is happening in the world and who benefits from it ...
      We Russians in the 90s received a good vaccine and were ill severely .. But now we are looking at everything with a calm look from the heart! Our brains no longer powder gentlemen. soldier
      1. Susanin Semiconductor
        Susanin Semiconductor 15 September 2019 10: 39
        -11
        Quote: Kontrik
        No wonder the West is in terrible hysteria. It is trying to crush Russia

        Judging by your emotional comments, hysteria is more likely in your place than in the west. In the West, everyone is busy with their own problems, and one of them is to crush competitors. A competitor number 1 now they have China. They don’t care about the history of Russia.
        1. Kontrik
          Kontrik 15 September 2019 12: 58
          +5
          Quote: Susanin Semiconductor
          Judging by your emotional comments, hysteria is more likely in your place than in the west.

          And why such sanctions against Russia?
          Quote: Susanin Semiconductor
          In the West, everyone is busy with their own problems, and one of them is to crush competitors.

          What are we competitors with?
          Quote: Susanin Semiconductor
          A competitor number 1 now they have China. They don’t care about the history of Russia.

          Well, don't tell me, their * your "task is to play off Russia and China .. And on the contrary, we are uniting hehe
          I’m calculating you liberals with half a kick and I know what you are hinting at here and what are your goals once again and your hosts
          Wait sooner or later .. negative
      2. boriz
        boriz 15 September 2019 11: 56
        +4
        This is not for us to powder. And for the grandchildren? Remember yourself:
        1. Tukhachevsky - a hero of the civil war, a great strategist and marshal,
        2. Tukhachevsky - an enemy of the people, an enemy spy,
        3. Mukhukhesky - innocently repressed under item 1,
        4. Tukhachevsky - mediocrity and p. 2.
        They play long.
    3. cormorant
      cormorant 15 September 2019 11: 08
      +4
      This generation already does not want to have anything in common with us, and these kids brought up on such textbooks will only see the enemy in us. Lost opportunities in 2014 will now come around for a very long time.
      1. mavrus
        mavrus 15 September 2019 11: 16
        +6
        That is yes. But on the other hand ... and Parashenko, and Timashenko, and the rest of the ukrainechity (who is over forty) studied according to Soviet textbooks ... But what's the point?
        1. cormorant
          cormorant 15 September 2019 11: 45
          +4
          Yulia Vladimirovna started her career as an engineer-economist at the Dneprovsk machine-building plant. Lenin (DMZ) in Dnepropetrovsk and if it were not for the fucking perestroika, you would hardly know about the "woman with the scythe." The same can be said about Petya. Would be some kind of middle diplomat at the Angolan embassy. So the Soviet education did not put garbage in the head. All the dark began to creep out when the bonds collapsed. Education depreciated, factories closed. Quite respectable engineers and diplomats went to crime and business.
      2. Saul_Rhen
        Saul_Rhen 15 September 2019 13: 00
        -5
        Yes, what a pity that I missed the opportunity to contain 30 million millions of potential traitors who think they owe them. Do we have enough of our jumping garbage in the country?
        1. cormorant
          cormorant 15 September 2019 13: 59
          +1
          You famously wrote 30 million into traitors. And the fact that in the 90s the Russian population was abandoned in the same Baltic. What they did to the Russians in Transcaucasia, Central Asia. It was almost genocide. This is not a betrayal of his people?
    4. Campanella
      Campanella 15 September 2019 11: 35
      +3
      Belching Soros she, not a cat.
    5. Vend
      Vend 16 September 2019 10: 28
      0
      And make the globe of Ukraine laughing
  2. Shiva83483
    Shiva83483 15 September 2019 09: 50
    +3
    you can't understand "THIS" with your mind ... you need to stand out with your mind, not by the correspondence of history ... although what am I talking about? mind and hochland, things compatible
  3. Sky strike fighter
    Sky strike fighter 15 September 2019 09: 50
    +2
    Degradation in person, including education, will soon not only be unable to build an airplane or engine (although the An-178 jambs example is indicative), but they will not be able to read and write everything. for laborers this is enough.
  4. Pedrodepackes
    Pedrodepackes 15 September 2019 09: 51
    0
    in her opinion, history textbooks need to be rewritten and any mention of friendship with Russia removed from there.
    can they even remove any mention of Russia and paint it with white paint on the globe of Ukraine?
    1. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 15 September 2019 09: 57
      +1
      This is how everyone in Ukraine dances to the tune of the West, and that one has a hysterical deranged attitude towards the world and towards Russia as well. The West is not used to reckoning with someone, and whoever disobeys is an enemy. Hence the words "enemies", rewrites history according to Western tradition and other behavior characteristic of the West.
      1. Evil echo
        Evil echo 15 September 2019 10: 30
        -2
        No one "duds" them, all these nondominists from the unfinished business themselves are ousted, in a fit of passion to lick the West and bite Russia. So they want to remind about themselves.
        1. Sky strike fighter
          Sky strike fighter 15 September 2019 10: 48
          +2
          Quote: Evil Echo
          No one "duds" them, all these nondominists from the unfinished business themselves are ousted, in a fit of passion to lick the West and bite Russia. So they want to remind about themselves.

          They themselves are exhausted, because they already know what the West requires of them, for the opportunities provided to them. The West requires a certain norm of behavior in relation to Russia, and they are glad to fulfill the wishes of the West for buns, otherwise their more warm and ambitious people will take their warm places near the feeder successors who will better guess the wishes of the West and fulfill them.
    2. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 15 September 2019 10: 01
      +2
      Quote: Pedrodepackes
      can they even remove any mention of Russia and paint it with white paint on the globe of Ukraine?

      And from whom then to protect Europe without sparing their belly?
      1. Pedrodepackes
        Pedrodepackes 15 September 2019 10: 13
        0
        Quote: Vasyan1971
        And from whom then to protect Europe without sparing their belly?

        so textbooks for the domestic market, and in Europe you can continue to scream about the threat))
        1. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 15 September 2019 10: 23
          -1
          Quote: Pedrodepackes
          and in Europe you can continue to complain about the threat

          Well yes. Everything is dumb there.
      2. The comment was deleted.
      3. Sky strike fighter
        Sky strike fighter 15 September 2019 10: 22
        +1
        And from whom then to protect Europe without sparing their belly?


        There’s another question. At the expense of whom then does the EU expand if Russia wants to protect its subjectivity and does not want to go to Europe from Lisbon to Vladivostok, which Western leaders have long been talking about, the same Merkel, Macron say so directly? But capitalism is still expanding and conquers ever new markets. And if you are not with us, then against us.
        1. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 15 September 2019 10: 25
          0
          Quote: Sky Strike fighter
          But capitalism lives on expanding and conquering ever new markets.

          And when he conquers everyone, then he will die?
          1. Sky strike fighter
            Sky strike fighter 15 September 2019 11: 03
            0
            Everything has such stages of development as the beginning, rise, dawn, peak of power, degradation, collapse. As a result, everything tends to zero. Read the stories of different Empires.
            1. Vasyan1971
              Vasyan1971 15 September 2019 11: 06
              0
              Quote: Sky Strike fighter
              As a result, everything tends to zero.

              That means he will die.
              1. sabakina
                sabakina 15 September 2019 11: 20
                0
                Quote: Vasyan1971
                Quote: Sky Strike fighter
                As a result, everything tends to zero.

                That means he will die.
                Who?
                1. Sky strike fighter
                  Sky strike fighter 15 September 2019 11: 26
                  0
                  Quote: sabakina
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  Quote: Sky Strike fighter
                  As a result, everything tends to zero.

                  That means he will die.
                  Who?

                  Capitalism. And a new stage of evolutionary development will begin.
                  1. sabakina
                    sabakina 15 September 2019 11: 30
                    +1
                    I'm all for it! Three kopecks soda is not a drink with phosphoric acid! wink
                    1. Vasyan1971
                      Vasyan1971 15 September 2019 12: 18
                      0
                      Quote: sabakina
                      I am for it!

                      Amen!
    3. Susanin Semiconductor
      Susanin Semiconductor 15 September 2019 10: 42
      +1
      Quote: Pedrodepackes
      in her opinion, history textbooks need to be rewritten and any mention of friendship with Russia removed from there.
      can they even remove any mention of Russia and paint it with white paint on the globe of Ukraine?

      You can not do it this way. For the law of conservation of energy is violated: gas and oil will appear from nowhere ....
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 15 September 2019 11: 07
        +2
        Quote: Susanin Semiconductor
        So you can’t .... gas and oil will appear from nowhere ....

        Well, the reverse gas appears "out of nowhere" ...
  5. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 15 September 2019 09: 52
    0
    Rewriting without stopping. They have already confused half the world with their delusional innovations.
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 15 September 2019 09: 59
      +2
      Quote: ODERVIT
      They have already confused half the world with their delusional innovations.

      Himself in the first place. Half the world, by and large, these shy things are absolutely parallel.
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 15 September 2019 09: 52
    +3
    Is this the young, illiterate, that 10 words 15 errors? This one will definitely rewrite history. She doesn’t know her anyway ... Therefore, EVERYTHING is equal to her!
  7. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 15 September 2019 09: 57
    +1
    Novosad claims that all the problems of Ukrainian school education lie in the "inherited Soviet education system", which is built solely on fear that permeates all relationships.

    Clear. The losers are to blame. Execution cannot be pardoned.
  8. Zliy_mod
    Zliy_mod 15 September 2019 09: 58
    +3
    My daughter must do it, the history of Ukraine is obligatory, again the latest nonsense is to be taught, life will put everything in its place, Russian is obligatory at home, it’s a pity there is no time to give the grammar to children)).
    In Russian school # 120 in Kiev, our teacher in Russian was a plump lady, and when she held a textbook in her bent left hand, her biceps stood out, and given her surname Kononenko and the first films with Schwarzenegger, the kliku Konan the Barbarian is natural stuck to it)).
    Oh, also a great Ukrainian?)
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 15 September 2019 10: 32
      -1
      Zliy_mod (Roman) Today, 09: 58
      0
      My daughter must do it, the history of Ukraine is obligatory, again the latest nonsense is to be taught, life will put everything in its place, Russian is obligatory at home, it’s a pity there is no time to give the grammar to children)).

      Whom you have chosen, so do your job. request
    2. Avis-bis
      Avis-bis 15 September 2019 11: 07
      +3
      Quote: Zliy_mod
      sorry for the grammar of the children have no time to give)).

      Stimulate more reading - spelling, in any case, will take root automatically. But it is only better to palm off paper books - in electronic versions of books digitization glitches often come across - there are a lot of typos.
  9. stalki
    stalki 15 September 2019 10: 00
    +3
    The main thing is that we do not forget our story. Then, if anything, it will be possible to remind everyone of everything. And write how it really was.
  10. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 15 September 2019 10: 02
    +7
    What for in general are all history books in Ukraine? It is enough to study history from two books: "100 Great Ukrainians" and "100 Most Poor Battles of the UPA".
  11. 3vs
    3vs 15 September 2019 10: 04
    +5
    The question is what to do Russian in spirit in Ukraine ...
    Degrading with everyone?
    It seems that if this goes on, the only way out
    in teaching at Sunday schools at Orthodox temples of history,
    Russian language together with the Law of God ...
    1. monah
      monah 15 September 2019 10: 38
      +3
      Unfortunately will not work! UOC Kiev Patriarchate do you need it? The UOC of Moskosky is already blamed for all sins from separatism to subversive activity! We have a small town about 20 yew. The Uniate Temple has grown by leaps and bounds! There are no parishioners yet, but the temple is worth it! It is ridiculous for many, but already now in 10 11th grade it is impossible to conduct a written control, I'm not talking about knowledge. They speak Russian but only learn Ukrainian, as a result of which they understand that even they themselves can’t write! You have to make dumb tests so that you can mark the answers with the birds. And it’s funny for you!
      1. 3vs
        3vs 15 September 2019 13: 14
        +1
        I’m just not funny, I just don’t see another way out in the existing conditions of how to teach children their native language and native history in the parishes of the UOC of the Moscow Patriarchate.
  12. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 15 September 2019 10: 05
    +3
    Note that the rewriting of history textbooks in Ukraine came to grips immediately after the Maidan coup
    Note that the rewriting of textbooks as a method of reprogramming the mental code did not even take place after the 91st year, but earlier. And one cannot but admit that reprogramming is going quite well.
  13. HAM
    HAM 15 September 2019 10: 05
    +3
    "Residents of Donbass!
    We are liberating you, not capturing you!
    Be warned, any resistance will be brutally suppressed! "

    I’m trying to understand what and where is the logic in these phrases ...that such leaflets are thrown to the Donbass... resembles "milk" "eggs" ...
  14. samarin1969
    samarin1969 15 September 2019 10: 09
    +5
    History-making is a favorite game of Ukrainian politicians. I was terribly surprised. No matter how much I read Ukrainian history textbooks - I did not notice kind words about Russia - one pathological Russophobia: Ukrainians were torn away from Europe, then two hundred years of terrible repressions, then epic Kruty, then Russians built bad factories, then forced to fight unarmed with Germany, crying for dissidents and an ode to the Maidan! Not history - but one "Egyptian captivity".
    Perhaps for the future "cannon fodder" they will sculpt the image of an even more terrible "Russian" "Mordor".
  15. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 15 September 2019 10: 11
    +5
    from them it is proposed to remove all references to friendship with Russia
    When one declares that Ukraine has been at war with Russia for 300 years, why not remove friendship to consolidate this. And Ukraine was not a part of the USSR, but suffered under occupation, and the Soviet leaders did not allocate lands to it, and Donbass was not built (industrialized), etc. Everything is natural in a country that has gone downhill while thinking that it is stepping into a "bright, European" future. Utyrki not remembering kinship and trying to erase their real history from memory.
  16. Avis-bis
    Avis-bis 15 September 2019 11: 08
    +1
    Her surname is clearly not Novosadova, but Samosadova. Moreover, this is not tobacco ...
  17. beeper
    beeper 15 September 2019 11: 09
    +2
    Is it that Anyuta who is so "nepysmenno" illiterate ?! smile
    Did she really study in a Soviet school, where does she know about her, from the "tales" of all diaspora Durogons and anti-Soviet (read anti-Russian, that in the stupid "makitras" of young Maydauns and Maydaunits, like Nyura, the same thing!) Engaged "Vyatrovichs" "??? winked All the "piercing fears" described by her appeared with the beginning of "rozbudovy nezalezhnisti" and these, rather clumsily constructed, as for the "Minister of Education", words:
    The Ukrainian school, unfortunately, ... is very often built on fear that permeates all relationships: teacher-student, teacher-director, director-parents. If we do not take away this fear, which fetters creativity and ability to dialogue, then we will not be able to talk about successful citizens.

    "Mrs. Ministerka" describes precisely the current, with the triumph of Banderonazism, the so-called "Ukrainian school" and the verdict to the current "Ukrainian education" in the "mouth" of the Maydaunitsa sounds correct, but she clearly does not "catch up" with the true root cause of this, since initially from the "Ukrainian school", "fixed" Russophobic "Mogilyanka", firmly "Svidomo oborota" and the destructive virus of Banderonazism "organically" rooted in her little "saucepan" ?! request

    The past five years have clearly proved the anti-national and anti-state nature of the pro-American "Euromaidan" coup d'etat, the so-called, by the Bandera skakuas themselves, the "hydration (dignity) revolution" of 2013-2014, which resulted in the final loss of state subjectivity and the amerocolonial status of the current "Ukraine", bloody the civil war unleashed against the Russian-speaking inhabitants of Eastern Ukraine by the Galician-w / Bandera Nazis and their guides - Washington with the "all-European" satellites, the loss of Crimea and Donbass (and in the near "future" and Transcarpathia, together with other Zapukryansk regions!), complete degradation of Ukrainian law enforcement agencies, industry, health care, education, housing and communal services, further enrichment of an insignificant minority-anti-people "Ukrainian" deribanists-kleptoligarchs and their servants, contrary to the general impoverishment of the majority of the Ukrainian working population .... unpunished bandero rampant Nazi terrorist gangs and individual bandit Nazi radicals throughout the Ukrainian territory!

    So, the real enemies of Ukraine are not Russia or Belarus, but Washington, with its "pan-European" and Middle Eastern satellites, who prepared and carried out the "euromaidan" occupation-colonization of the "nezalezhnoy derzhava" and planted on our labor neck a puppet occupation judomaz Bandera administration and through it carrying out anti-popular and anti-state colonial "policy", destroying and plundering the Ukrainian population and remnants (since for all the "fate of nezalezhism" the temporary "Ukrainian authorities" did not create anything, but only fought-stole the rest of the USSR!) of our Soviet National Property!

    To deafen and further marginalize the consciousness of the younger generation of Ukrainian residents, educate them into uncomplaining slaves for American and European neo-colonialists, and "rewrite (from the very beginning of anti-national" nezalezhness ", and not only from the time of" overcoming euromaidan "!!!)" according to the "recipes" of the enemy American "diaspora", "textbooks" for the completely banned "Ukrainian schools" permeated with fear and Banderonazi racism with prevailing Russophobia!
  18. Campanella
    Campanella 15 September 2019 11: 45
    +1
    Directly Ukrainian version of Gaidar.
    See striking courageous appointments, however, for Svidomo this is not news.
  19. ugol2
    ugol2 15 September 2019 11: 45
    +6
    Blame the Soviet education system:
    It is often built on fear that permeates all relationships: teacher-student, teacher-director, director-parents ...

    Well, nonsense, complete bullshit. But the gray mare sits in a ministerial chair. How does this relate?
    1. monah
      monah 15 September 2019 17: 43
      +2
      No way! Judging by the biography, she is fluent in English and German, she has not yet learned Ukrainian, but has already forgotten Russian! She graduated from the Lyceum and the grave, what can not have a general idea of ​​Soviet education?
  20. rocket757
    rocket757 15 September 2019 11: 58
    +2
    Sad ... dangerous! The younger generation will be Svidomo dill from heels to the crown.
  21. paul3390
    paul3390 15 September 2019 12: 04
    +3
    Quote: samarin1969
    Not history - but one "Egyptian captivity".

    Ukrainians, like Psheks, cannot understand the obvious, the place of the forever suffering persecuted ingenious people, to whom all owe pennies for the burdens endured - only one thing. And it is already taken!
  22. Saul_Rhen
    Saul_Rhen 15 September 2019 12: 56
    -3
    The "patriots" communists who run up to such topics are simply astonishing. Their desire to spit feces into Russia is especially amusing.
    Hello guys. But didn’t the Communists come up with and create the independence ones, tearing pieces from the Empire? Have not the Communists introduced the custom of rewriting and forgetting history?
    With your lips, be silent in such topics.
  23. APASUS
    APASUS 15 September 2019 13: 20
    -1
    The authorities have something to justify their actions and are having fun. Although, in my opinion, all countries are the same, we carry out pension reform every 2-3 years
  24. Piramidon
    Piramidon 15 September 2019 13: 49
    +1
    In Ukraine, again proposed to rewrite history books

    It turned out that the ancient Sumerians dug the sea not with primitive shovels, but with excavators and decided to amend the history. laughing
    1. monah
      monah 15 September 2019 17: 48
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      You are behind life! It has already been proved that with the sea it is too much! They only dug the Bosphorus and the Kerch Strait.
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 15 September 2019 19: 21
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        Quote: monah
        You are behind life! It has already been proved that with the sea it is too much! They only dug the Bosphorus and the Kerch Strait.

        What a bust. Historically proven fact.

        Or do you doubt their abilities and spread zrad in the minds of the Sumerians? laughing
  25. Tavrik
    Tavrik 15 September 2019 14: 18
    +1
    Let them wander around as they want. "If the enemy makes a mistake, do not interfere with it" (Napoleon).
  26. Tavrik
    Tavrik 15 September 2019 14: 21
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    Quote: ANIMAL
    History textbook for grade 9 ..

    What story book? If the description of the Second World War is universal, then it’s normal to write about different theaters of military operations. If a Russian history textbook and the Great Patriotic War case, then it is not at all clear, what does the Pacific Ocean have to do with it?
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  28. Rwmos
    Rwmos 15 September 2019 16: 18
    +1
    Yes, no one knows how to write with you - there, for example, the new Minister of Education, who will copy?
  29. rus-5819
    rus-5819 15 September 2019 16: 27
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    The Ukrainian school, unfortunately, accepted the negatives of the Soviet system. It is often built on fear that permeates all relationships: teacher-student, teacher-director, director-parents.

    Is that what you strive for, ignoramus, or maybe vice versa?
    “We must take all measures against the reproduction of the non-German population. According to the Fuhrer, it is enough to educate the local population, including the so-called Ukrainians, only reading and writing. Instead of the current alphabet, in the future in schools introduce the Latin font "
    Signature: Bormann

    I understand that if you have not yet achieved this, then strive for it?

    Note that the rewriting of history textbooks in Ukraine came to grips immediately after the Maidan revolution.

    Much earlier.
    Already in 1999, I made fun of (and in vain) statements:
    that hetman Mazepa (a traitor by definition) is a national hero who wants independence of the country with the support of Sweden (which by and large did not give a damn about both Mazepa and Ukraine)

    that "good people were found and redeemed our great Kobzar from imperial bondage." True, it was not specified that the "kind people" were Russian artists, writers and simply not indifferent people
    (Textbook "History of Ukraine" 1997)
    1. Gennady Fomkin
      Gennady Fomkin 15 September 2019 20: 12
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      The landowner gave Shevchenko and studied drawing with Vasily Shiryaev, who often went to the Summer Garden to draw sculptures. It worked great. Shevchenko was brought to Bryullov and so interested him that Bryullov himself went to his master, Pavel Vasilyevich Engelhardt, who lived on Mokhovaya Street. After a conversation with the landowner "about the vacation pay" to the talented boy, Bryullov could not come to his senses for a long time from indignation and did not call Engelhardt otherwise than "a pig in Torzhok's shoes".
      Then the artist Venetsianov took up the matter and, with his characteristic practicality, immediately recognized the price at which the landowner would let the serf go. Engelhardt called no more - no less, as much as 2500 rubles! Unprecedented amount.

      But there is nothing to do. Bryullov turned for help to Vasily Andreevich Zhukovsky and Count Matvey Yuryevich Vielgorsky, together they drew up a plan for future action. Bryullov painted a portrait of Zhukovsky, who then raised the heir to the throne. They decided to play it in the lottery, issuing tickets for the amount needed for the ransom.

      According to their calculations, the portrait should have been accidentally "won" by the empress. The plan was carried out, the portrait "unexpectedly" went to the empress herself, who spared no expense. As a result, Engelhardt received the desired amount, and Shevchenko received vacation and freedom ... laughing
  30. Ros 56
    Ros 56 15 September 2019 17: 00
    +1
    What does this two-year-old know about history? She even writes with errors, who issued her a certificate? Here is an example of how people turn into monkeys.
  31. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 15 September 2019 17: 25
    +1
    The revolution of 2013-2014 and the war that began after changing the political identity and consciousness of society in different ways, and this should be reflected in the programs of our schools, in textbooks, in the way teachers teach.
    So we did not know that from 2013 to 2014 of the year they had a revolution, and Poroshenko, as we have Lenin.
  32. Nadir shah
    Nadir shah 15 September 2019 17: 41
    -4
    Quote: 3vs
    The question is what to do Russian in spirit in Ukraine ...
    Degrading with everyone?
    It seems that if this goes on, the only way out
    in teaching at Sunday schools at Orthodox temples of history,
    Russian language together with the Law of God ...

    religion and teaching are a little incompatible, in addition, everything goes the same way in the Russian Federation - we will return to imperial times soon with priests at the head of the grouting and 99.9% of the illiterate population. There are already more temples than schools.
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  33. awg75
    awg75 15 September 2019 18: 37
    +1
    I spat on the descendants of the Sumerians a long time ago. so they need it. not a bit sorry for them.
  34. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 15 September 2019 20: 51
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    A common place is that on the lands of ancient Ukraine for 5000 years BC there was a state of Scythians, whose outlines on the map frighteningly coincide with the current Ukrainian. Direct succession, thank God, is not inferred, but the hint is extremely clear. Archaeological evidence of the existence of the Scythian power is enclosed in full

    The Scythians are reported to be freedom-loving and warlike nomads (apparently, nomads, however, strictly within the Ukrainian borders), “The war for the Scythians was commonplace, and all adult Scythians never parted with weapons. That Scythian who did not defeat the enemy was not even allowed to the festive table ”(hereinafter quotations are given in italics, translated from Ukrainian, sorry, mine). In short, horsemen.
    History of Ukraine, illustrated Atlas. Isaev D. “Yes, we are the Scythians! Yes, we are Asians! ”

    Further it is reported about birch bark letters, ancient annals, and that Ukrainians have lived in the present lands of Ukraine since the XNUMXth century, which is not very interesting to disassemble, since these are legendary times, about which the most fantastic tales are always composed. laughing
  35. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 15 September 2019 20: 55
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    In Ukrainian there is nothing special, it can only be noted that according to one version, modern Ukrainians come from the fields, while Russians and Belarusians come from the Krivichy (“Ukraine is not Russia”). Other authors, however, are trying to present Ukraine as the center of the Eastern Slavs - this is where the current Ukrainians came to believe that they have real, right Russia, and the current Russians are Finno-Ugric Mongols. laughing

    In general, Ukrainian professors simply launched Romanov propaganda (which justified Russia's claims on Polish ("Kievan Rus") and Austrian ("Galicia-Volyn Power") lands against Russia itself. Or, to put it mildly, for your own good. Kievan Rus is called “Prince Russia - Ukraine” (such as “Khanty-Mansiysk Okrug - Ugra”), while “Rus” is supposedly archaic and didn’t take root even then, and “Ukraine” meant “beloved land” and, vice versa, to everyone I liked it. Antiquity as a whole, as in the Russian historical tradition, was distinguished by the richness and flourishing of all that was possible.

    A distinctive feature of the Ukrainian historical legend is that all the great successes of the Ukrainian state remained there, in the times of legendary and ancient. At the same time, even the initial loss of independence by Ukrainian lands and their transfer under the power of Poland and Lithuania is presented in the most ordinary way - they say, "they lived in peace": "The establishment of Lithuanian authorities on our lands was quite peaceful." The establishment of Lithuanian authorities on our lands was quite peaceful . laughing laughing
  36. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 15 September 2019 21: 04
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    The flight of imagination of “Ukrainian historians” created a “mighty power” - the Zaporizhzhya Sich. From the end of the XV to the end of the XVIII century. continued the period of history, which is called "Cossack." According to Ukrainians, Sich was a form of Ukrainian statehood, a direct “military democracy”. However, the "enemies" destroyed the "great Cossack power." Poland and Russia divided its lands among themselves, and the Ottoman Empire captured the southern lands. For the eighth grade of Ukrainian schools, the war of liberation led by Bohdan Khmelnytsky is a kind of “Ukrainian Great Patriotic War”. A significant part of the school course is devoted to it. Pereyaslavskaya Rada is assessed as a forced alliance with Russia, which ended with "Russian betrayal." “Great Ukraine” fell under the Russian protectorate, the Russians began to seize control, impose their orders and break “the great Ukrainian culture, distorting history along the way.” During the reign of Hetman Ivan Vygovsky, who reoriented to Poland, it turns out that there was a “Ukrainian-Moscow” (or “Russian-Ukrainian”) war. fool In Russian historiography, this “war” is one of the fronts (operational areas) of the Russo-Polish war of 1654-1667.

    The war ended in complete “occupation” of “Great Ukraine”: the state was divided along the Dnieper, the Ottomans went south. The entire subsequent history of “Ukraine” is described as a continuous series of “heroic” national liberation struggles. Hetman Mazepa, who had betrayed Russia and sided with the enemy - Sweden, became a "national hero." In the textbooks for grade 9, they mainly talk about the “national revival” and “colonial policy” of the Russian authorities. The Patriotic War of 1812 was even “Ukrainized”. It turns out that the Cossack army “drove Napoleon” out of Russia. laughing lol fool
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    1. Lexa-149
      Lexa-149 15 September 2019 23: 19
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      Little of! Adam and Eve - the first Ukrainians on earth! Noah was not a Jew, but a Ukrainian!)))
  38. Lexa-149
    Lexa-149 15 September 2019 23: 16
    +1
    Let any mention of Russia be erased from their textbooks at all! They will erase it on the cards with an eraser and write that Tartar is there so that the Zarobitchites do not go east. Polish toilets and beds are waiting for them!
    Along the way, this young lady walks in a saucepan from birth.
  39. ltc22A
    ltc22A 16 September 2019 10: 16
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    Quote: Metallurg_2
    What for in general are all history books in Ukraine? It is enough to study history from two books: "100 Great Ukrainians" and "100 Most Poor Battles of the UPA".

    And in general, leave a four-year education in Ukraine. To teach how to read, write on "mov", count (+ - / *), read history above, singing the anthem of Ukraine (obligatory in the morning and after the end of classes), for girls - embroidery, for boys - gardening and CWP. And that's enough. And "vyshi" (university in the old (Russian)) to remove completely, teachers, professors - in agriculture.
    Is sad request crying