Military Review

American "AUG" went camping without an aircraft carrier

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The ships forming the surface component of the escort of the attack aircraft carrier group "Harry S. Truman", on September 12, left their home harbors to begin patrolling the oceans. The core of the AUG - the USS Harry S. Truman aircraft carrier (CVN-75) - was not among them. In this regard, the very concept of “carrier strike group” should be called into question. There is a certain wing on it, but this is clearly not the same wing that Harry S. Truman himself has.




From AUG to SAG


Experts still continue to assess his condition after the group’s flagship failed at the end of August due to a malfunction in the power distribution system.

Repair of the aircraft carrier continues, and every effort is made to return the aircraft carrier and [attached to it] aircraft wing as soon as possible

- noted in a statement by the US Navy.

At the same time, the time during which it is expected to diagnose and fix the problem remains unclear. Against this background, it was decided to create from a surface ship its own group without an aircraft carrier and an air wing (designated as SAG - surface action group). It includes destroyers URO class Arleigh Burke USS Lassen (DDG-82) and USS Farragut (DDG-99) from Mayport, the same type USS Forrest Sherman (DDG-98) and USS Normandy missile cruiser (CG-60) class Ticolonderoga H . The SAG was assigned the MH-60R PLO rotorcraft squadron from the HSM 72 helicopter naval squadron from Jacksonville Air Base.

So really a full-fledged group, minus the aircraft carrier and air wing. But a full-fledged, very capable group is going to answer the call of the nation in this great competition of forces

- said Vice Admiral Andrew Lewis, commander of the 2nd fleet.


MH-60R


Extremely rare case


According to him, the deployment of SAG was the first case of deployment on the East Coast since 2006, recognizing that this situation is unusual and unsuccessful.

The situation with Truman is frankly unsuccessful [...] No one wanted this misfortune to happen [...] But we still have enormous potential

- explained the commander.

As USNI News explains, deploying an AOG without an aircraft carrier is “a largely unprecedented move by the [military] department.” Previously, this situation was quite rare. So, in January 2013, the escort left without USS Nimitz (CVN-68), which faced an urgent technical problem. However, he reunited with the group in March. Now the timing of the return of the flagship is completely unclear.

As Lewis noted, an aircraft carrier has a deterrent effect, but cruisers and destroyers have the most popular capabilities for the Navy:

So this is a very capable group [...] An aircraft carrier is a monster. It appears off your coast and, if you are not our friend, you quickly become our friend [...] There is no doubt that this effect is lost with smaller ships, but these ships are really very capable.


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  1. Nycomed
    Nycomed 13 September 2019 13: 01
    +1
    That is, they sent just so as not to relax? On the one hand, it’s also true: well, there is no aircraft carrier, and what, now do not go on a hike?
    1. Vladimir16
      Vladimir16 13 September 2019 13: 05
      +1
      Quote: Nycomed
      well there is no aircraft carrier

      And who has it?

      I walk a day, I’m lying three.

      This is like honey.

      When there is honey, it is not there immediately. laughing
    2. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 13 September 2019 15: 00
      +1
      Quote: Nycomed
      That is, they sent just so as not to relax? On the one hand, it’s also true: well, there is no aircraft carrier, and what, now do not go on a hike?

      It’s a problem for the Americans ... Although it would be interesting to ask one of their veterans how they felt, well, at least in the Mediterranean, when the 5th operational fleet of the USSR Navy was next to them, even without an aircraft carrier!
      1. Nycomed
        Nycomed 13 September 2019 15: 07
        -1
        Yes, they felt fine, as befits a naval officer. Not worse than during the Pacific Company 1941-1945. or landing in Normandy in June 1944. or while participating in and accompanying the Polar convoys.
      2. bayard
        bayard 14 September 2019 00: 23
        +2
        Quote: Starover_Z
        in the Mediterranean Sea, when next to them was the 5th operational flotilla of the Soviet Navy

        5th operational squadron.
        And aircraft carriers were also in its composition, though they were called TARKR and their main weapon was not Yak-38 aircraft, but heavy supersonic anti-ship missiles.
        And they felt confident, just like ours.
    3. svp67
      svp67 13 September 2019 16: 33
      +1
      Quote: Nycomed
      That is, they sent just so as not to relax?

      Ships and sailors should live by the sea, not by the mooring walls. So that the strike group’s output is understandable, not clear, but what are the capabilities of this combat strike group of ships now. What can she do in a specific environment?
  2. Invoce
    Invoce 13 September 2019 13: 17
    -3
    “So this is a very capable group [...] Aircraft carrier is a monster. It appears off your coast and, if you are not our friend, you quickly become our friend [...] There is no doubt that this effect is lost with smaller ships, but these ships are really very capable.

    Aircraft carrier is not only monster, but also a very convenient target, carrying up to 90 other targets that can be destroyed with one salvo of a squadron with "Daggers"
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 13 September 2019 13: 28
      +4
      Quote: Invoce
      “So this is a very capable group [...] Aircraft carrier is a monster. It appears off your coast and, if you are not our friend, you quickly become our friend [...] There is no doubt that this effect is lost with smaller ships, but these ships are really very capable.

      Aircraft carrier is not only monster, but also a very convenient target, carrying up to 90 other targets that can be destroyed with one salvo of a squadron with "Daggers"

      This brovada also cut it. Who is it for? American audience? So maybe it should have been like this: "The aircraft carrier, this is Batman on the wings of the night, and the escort ships, this is like Batman's assistant"
    2. Corn
      Corn 13 September 2019 13: 28
      -6
      I think that the “Daggers" that are precious and unparalleled in the world should not even be spent on these helpless aircraft-carrying pelvis. It is enough for our plane with the “Khibiny” to fly nearby and then the personnel of the entire aircraft carrier strike group will not have enough diapers.
      1. energoteknolog
        energoteknolog 14 September 2019 11: 20
        0
        I understand what I said?
    3. MoJloT
      MoJloT 13 September 2019 15: 12
      +4
      can be destroyed with one salvo of a squadron with "Daggers"
      laughing Theoretically, yes, in practice they have more aircraft carriers than we have daggers.
      1. ser56
        ser56 13 September 2019 16: 29
        +3
        Quote: MoJloT
        in practice, they have more aircraft carriers than we have daggers.

        in practice, the number of operational ABs is very small ... request
    4. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 13 September 2019 16: 15
      +6
      Quote: Invoce
      The aircraft carrier is not only a monster, but also a very convenient target, carrying up to 90 other targets that can be destroyed with one salvo of a squadron with "Daggers"

      Why the whole squadron? One earflap cap is enough for the entire US Navy
  3. maidan.izrailovich
    maidan.izrailovich 13 September 2019 13: 24
    +3
    It turns out that the printing press is not omnipotent. lol
  4. Den717
    Den717 13 September 2019 13: 30
    0
    They also have cavalry units without horses on the OshS list. In various analytical articles, such references are still found: "...... In 2004-2005, the 1st Cavalry Division carried out operations in the Baghdad area and participated in the second Battle of Fallujah ...... . ".
  5. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 13 September 2019 13: 37
    +1
    As Lewis noted, an aircraft carrier has a deterrent effect, but cruisers and destroyers have the most popular capabilities for the Navy:
    It turns out: On .... you need it, so handsome? feel
  6. Evil echo
    Evil echo 13 September 2019 13: 39
    +2
    So this is a very capable group [...] An aircraft carrier is a monster. It appears off your coast and, if you are not our friend, you quickly become our friend [...] There is no doubt that this effect is lost with smaller ships, but these ships are really very capable.

    And someone doesn’t want to be friends with us. Probably due to the fact that non-traditional people can get a little rake, and there are a lot of them.
    1. askort154
      askort154 13 September 2019 14: 01
      +2
      An aircraft carrier is a monster. He appears on your shores and, if you are not our friend, you quickly become our friend

      The general, frankly, voiced the roots of US international politics. Not otherwise than under the "shaf", chatting with girlfriends in the sauna. tongue
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 13 September 2019 16: 15
        +2
        Quote: askort154
        The general, frankly, voiced the roots of US international politics.

        So no one ever hid her
  7. Operator
    Operator 13 September 2019 13: 45
    +7
    AUG without A is called KUG, laughing
    1. Sanichsan
      Sanichsan 13 September 2019 15: 43
      -1
      Quote: Operator
      AUG without A is called KUG,

      in the abbreviation KUG the letter K means neutered? what
  8. Kelwin
    Kelwin 13 September 2019 13: 59
    +3
    They are obscuring something, they probably do not want to upset Congress and taxpayers) What kind of problem can there be in the "distribution of energy" that it is so difficult to "diagnose" that even the terms are not defined? Now the group is leaving without a flagship, which means, although "not defined", but it will be for a long time. It seems that they called the problem with the reactor so diplomatically (well, the same is the component of the power system, acho), let everyone think that they kick out machines in the kitchen, and yes, this is a problem, how can it be without a galley)
  9. prior
    prior 13 September 2019 14: 04
    +3
    The Americans in this campaign will try to understand whether there is life after the loss of an aircraft carrier in real combat conditions., Whether the cooled Coca-Cola will suffice and how IJIS feels without air cover.
  10. Dr. Barmaley
    Dr. Barmaley 13 September 2019 14: 09
    +1
    So really a full-fledged group, minus the aircraft carrier and air wing.

    It reminds of the fairy tale "The new dress of the king": the king also went there fully dressed, just his dress was special.
  11. Cynic
    Cynic 13 September 2019 14: 32
    +1
    Is the composition of the AUG purely individual? No substitutions, replacements?
    Oh darken the Yankees, oh darken ...
  12. ugol2
    ugol2 13 September 2019 14: 35
    +11
    American "AUG" went camping without an aircraft carrier

    I think everyone would be more happy with the news:
    American "AUG" has returned from a campaign without an aircraft carrier
  13. tarabar
    tarabar 13 September 2019 14: 43
    +2
    So this is a very capable group [...] An aircraft carrier is a monster. It appears off your coast and, if you are not our friend, you quickly become our friend [...] There is no doubt that this effect is lost with smaller ships, but these ships are really very capable.
    A typical procedure of mass auto-training turning into complacency and justification of their failures.
  14. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 13 September 2019 14: 44
    +1
    It should be called "BAG", no aircraft carrier group laughing
  15. K-50
    K-50 13 September 2019 14: 52
    +1
    The ships, forming the surface escort component of the Harry S. Truman strike group, left their home harbors on September 12 to begin patrolling the world's oceans. The AUG rod, the aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman (CVN-75), was not among them. In this regard, the very concept of an "aircraft carrier strike group" is worth questioning.

    Can any helicopter carrier with the Fu-35-mi fit, later.
    On the other hand, to us in general, let it be purple, how and on what are they swim.. fellow lol
  16. Evil 55
    Evil 55 13 September 2019 14: 55
    0
    Garik let us down ... they didn’t expect such a thing from him .. In one fell swoop he turned AUG into KUG (neutered, not ship) ..
  17. yehat
    yehat 13 September 2019 16: 10
    0
    Quote: Corn
    I think that the “Daggers" that are precious and unparalleled in the world should not even be spent on these helpless aircraft-carrying pelvis. It is enough for our plane with the “Khibiny” to fly nearby and then the personnel of the entire aircraft carrier strike group will not have enough diapers.

    There are harmless chemicals that completely make the water taste so nasty that it’s hard to drink. it is enough to fly with a small spray over the aircraft carrier so that he was forced to flee to the nearest port. one small racket is enough for aircraft carriers.
  18. Ros 56
    Ros 56 13 September 2019 16: 12
    0
    So if the Avik broke, it is already not the AUG, but just a warrant of ships.
  19. faterdom
    faterdom 13 September 2019 16: 31
    +1
    That is, instead of AUG, they just sent UG on a hike ??? We are scratching our entire auto industry with such an abbreviation, and the Americans have already moved on - they already have "US Navy" - it has become UG!
    So we can’t keep the hegemony, ashamed, Comrade Trump!
  20. Paranoid50
    Paranoid50 14 September 2019 08: 40
    +2
    An aircraft carrier is a monster. It appears on your shores and, if you are not our friend, you quickly become our friend [...]
    laughing laughing laughing