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The publication from the United States considers robots a promising way to deal with Russian tanks

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US Army is exploring the possibility of giving tanks M1 Abrams Robotic Assistants. Such machines, according to BreakingDefense, can give the United States armed forces advantages over Russia: it is her in the magazine that is cited as a potential adversary.




The United States has long been considering the concept of robotic tanks. However, recently the emphasis has shifted from heavy machines to light robotic systems.

Imagine that the armored legions of Russia are rolling into the Baltic states. T-90 tanks drive infantry-filled infantry fighting vehicles along the sprawling fields of Latvia. Suddenly, Javelin rockets fly from ambush positions in a forest belt a few kilometers from the attackers. T-90 active defense systems and reactive armor destroy some anti-tank warheads, but not all - and lighter infantry fighting vehicles are destroyed. Cars burn, people die.

In response, the Russians opened fire in an ambush from 125-mm guns, after which they covered it with volleys of MLRS. But when the Russian troops, carefully moving between the smoldering stumps of the trees, approach the firing point, they do not find the bodies. Instead, the Russians discover one burned-out vehicle the size of a golf cart, equipped with a rocket launcher, but without a crew.

- This is how the American publication describes the potential battle with the use of robotic systems.

While working on a project, its concept often undergoes changes. Initially, the US Armed Forces sought to create robotic unmanned tanks. However, later the emphasis shifted.

The transport robot has become a killer robot


Example: the fruit of collaboration between five companies, the Titan robot. Created by QinetiQ North America and Estonia-based Milrem Robotics, it was equipped with armory the Kongsberg platform, which launched several Javelin ATGMs for testing, which, in turn, were jointly developed by Lockheed Martin and Raytheon.

Crawler Titan, weighing about a ton, was originally intended for the transport of land forces. Fire is conducted through remote control. In addition, the system cannot recharge.



Not yet.

- they are optimistically adding to BreakingDefense, however, emphasizing that this robot is not a competitor to the 70-tonne M1 tank and its 120-mm smoothbore guns, the speed of which no existing active defense system can stop.

The Pentagon is currently not interested in the robotic Abrams, at least in the near future. Instead, he focuses on lighter, 5-, 10- and 20-ton machines, which allows them to play completely different tactical roles. Their Americans are going to experience in the coming 3-5 years.

The tactical opportunities that are opening up should give army tactics plenty of food for thought, and the Russians may need to be careful.

- writes the edition.
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  1. Svarog
    Svarog 12 September 2019 16: 01
    -4
    Yes, the future belongs to robots, and Fyodor was given to the museum ..
    1. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 12 September 2019 16: 25
      +4
      Quote: Svarog
      Yes, the future belongs to robots, and Fyodor was given to the museum ..

      The future belongs to ROFAR, and the F-35 after putting them into service will be given to the museum.
      The Russian military will receive radio-photon radar stations (RLS), allowing in the optical range to make a three-dimensional portrait of small targets, write "Izvestia".

      According to the newspaper, the first prototype radar on discrete radio-photonic elements has already been created, and experts from the Ministry of Defense took part in its tests. “During the experiment, the locator tracked the trajectory of a small-sized drone. A full analysis of his work was carried out, on the basis of which the directions for further research were determined, ”said Maxim Kuzyuk, head of the Radio Engineering and Information Systems (RTI Systems) concern.

      http://in24.org/technology/37214
      1. Shahno
        Shahno 12 September 2019 16: 33
        -3
        /) The future belongs to ROFAR, and F-35 after putting them into service will be given to the museum.
        laughing
        wellcome. university weizman, rehovot.
        You know what I mean.
        1. Sky strike fighter
          Sky strike fighter 12 September 2019 16: 37
          +3
          I don’t understand. Explain directly, without puzzles.
          1. WILL
            WILL 12 September 2019 17: 11
            +1
            Quote: Sky Strike fighter
            I don’t understand. Explain directly, without puzzles.

            There is no way without puzzles! I read the article as a Herbert Wales novel, science fiction ... it is such a Fantasy !!! laughing
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 12 September 2019 17: 52
              +2
              Quote: ANIMAL
              There is no way without puzzles! I read the article as a Herbert Wales novel, science fiction ... it is such a Fantasy !!!

              However, this is entirely possible.
              Moreover, partly already in service. In particular, remotely controlled Belarusian anti-tank systems

              1. Chaldon48
                Chaldon48 13 September 2019 02: 14
                0
                What a fantasy, what is described looks like an ill-conceived WWII attack, without intelligence and art training.
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 13 September 2019 09: 54
                  0
                  Quote: Chaldon48
                  What a fantasy, what is described looks like an ill-conceived WWII attack, without intelligence and art training.

                  We are not disbanding anti-tank batteries and battalions yet. Despite the "reconnaissance and artillery preparation".
                  And these robotic systems have a similar tactical use.
            2. Ilya-spb
              Ilya-spb 12 September 2019 20: 42
              0
              The public is wary of the invasion of NATO-friendly Decepticons led by Galvatron and wonders if the RPG-7 will take them.
      2. vadim dok
        vadim dok 12 September 2019 16: 42
        +1
        And only Russia will have this ROFAR?
        1. Sky strike fighter
          Sky strike fighter 12 September 2019 16: 50
          +5
          No, other countries are also carrying out similar developments, but the F-35 application concept, built on the advantage of stealth, will be exhausted after the adoption of the ROFAR, a new era will come in aviation, new concepts of using aviation in a new technological reality will begin to emerge, and here F- 35 will definitely go to the museum.
        2. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 12 September 2019 17: 12
          -2
          Rofar is an advanced AFAR.
          Less power consumption, operation from submillimeter to decimeter waves, clearer processed "radio picture".
          But he does not particularly threaten stealth.
          Short waves are more easily absorbed by stealth coatings.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 12 September 2019 17: 30
            +2
            "Penguin" will find application, develop acceptable tactics, means of engaging the enemy and forward. He will not be the king of the sky, and there is enough other work in the theater.
          2. Tuzik
            Tuzik 12 September 2019 17: 44
            +2
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Rofar is an advanced AFAR.
            Less power consumption, operation from submillimeter to decimeter waves, clearer processed "radio picture".
            But he does not particularly threaten stealth.
            Short waves are more easily absorbed by stealth coatings.


            Alexei, you’re just breaking your brain, many write that Rofar will be able to see the invisible, are they all wrong?
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 12 September 2019 17: 52
              +2
              From a close distance - several kilometers - he will be able to see the stealth more clearly than the existing AFARs. If you install it in the GOS missile BB, it will improve the capture of the target. But he will not help in the detection of stealth from tens and hundreds of kilometers. Long waves are effective here, not submillimeter and millimeter.
              1. Sky strike fighter
                Sky strike fighter 12 September 2019 18: 26
                +1
                But he will not help in the detection of stealth from tens and hundreds of kilometers. Long waves are effective here, not submillimeter and millimeter.

                Imagine from hundreds of kilometers (200 km) the F-35 (EPR 0,4) even sees the S-400 radar, the S-500 will see the F-35 even further, and the real ROFAR capabilities will be even higher, but the exact numbers for obvious reasons to you no one will say.
          3. NEXUS
            NEXUS 12 September 2019 20: 53
            0
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Rofar is an advanced AFAR.

            Are you serious now? Nothing that these are different concepts, technologies from the word at all?
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Short waves are more easily absorbed by stealth coatings.

            Photons means stealth coverage has already learned to absorb? fellow
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 12 September 2019 23: 17
              0
              Rofar does not send photons. Photons are sent by a laser.
              Do not confuse radar with a laser.
              And the photons do not return to the laser back. They heat up
              or burn the surface on which they hit.
  2. Nycomed
    Nycomed 12 September 2019 16: 02
    -2
    They have thousands of such robots to do. Flag in hand! am
    1. dirk182
      dirk182 12 September 2019 16: 12
      +2
      make 100, and sell thousands ... it's possible
    2. 210ox
      210ox 12 September 2019 16: 13
      +1
      The main thing is that the script in the publication is already written .. wassat
      1. Labrador
        Labrador 12 September 2019 16: 19
        +2
        Imagine that the armored legions of Russia are rolling into the Baltic states. T-90 tanks are infantry-fighting infantry fighting vehicles along the sprawling fields of Latvia.


        EMNIP, it was not so long ago in NATO that the tribaltics would last 12 hours in the event of a full-scale offensive by the Russian army ...
        During this time, the crews of the Abrams will change their clothes in Poland and they will not have time.
    3. Julius Caesar
      Julius Caesar 12 September 2019 17: 40
      0
      It will be necessary - and tens of thousands will do it. Do not underestimate the production capabilities of the United States and its satellites.
      How will we fight?
      1. Charik
        Charik 12 September 2019 18: 37
        +1
        electric gun
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 12 September 2019 18: 43
        +1
        Quote: Giulio Cesare
        How will we fight?

        Own robots. Both ground and UAV. Leading continuous intelligence. Even a lost drone is indirect evidence of an adversary.
      3. nikon7717
        nikon7717 12 September 2019 18: 51
        +1
        To begin with, these robots must be placed in combat positions. Conclusion nobody is going to track? The second one. How these robots will determine goals. They must have an active target designation station. What will it be? AFAR, radar?
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 12 September 2019 19: 03
          +2
          Quote: nikon7717
          How these robots will determine goals. They must have an active target designation station. What will it be? AFAR, radar?

          Man and remote target designation.
          By the way, the picture for the article is incorrect. I need this one:
          1. nikon7717
            nikon7717 13 September 2019 20: 53
            0
            Man and remote target designation. Is it like an artillery corrector, just in fact behind enemy lines? And it can not be detected by means of communication and drown out the signal from him?
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 13 September 2019 21: 44
              0
              Quote: nikon7717
              Man and remote target designation. Is it like an artillery corrector, just in fact behind enemy lines?

              In the rear.

              Quote: nikon7717
              And it can not be detected by means of communication and drown out the signal from him?

              You can detect, but it will be too late. They can remain in radio silence until the very start of the battle. Muffling is unlikely. There will be no such powerful means of suppression at the company / battalion level.
              Also, do not forget that the included "jammer" is a legitimate target for enemy artillery and aircraft. So there is no point in relying solely on the REP.
              1. nikon7717
                nikon7717 13 September 2019 23: 24
                0
                The war is planned network-centric. How will the impact directions be determined? Or everything will be non-sleeping gunners overlap. And advancing like a parade, without disguise and only in conditions of excellent visibility without deceitful maneuvers. Lyapota!
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 14 September 2019 09: 53
                  0
                  Quote: nikon7717
                  The war is planned network-centric. How will the impact directions be determined? Or everything will be non-sleeping gunners overlap.

                  And how are PT reserves used now? So it is here. It’s just that at the deployment lines, robots will die, not anti-tank heroes.

                  By the way, in my opinion, you do not quite understand what "network centricity" is.
      4. poquello
        poquello 12 September 2019 19: 24
        +1
        Quote: Giulio Cesare
        It will be necessary - and tens of thousands will do it. Do not underestimate the production capabilities of the United States and its satellites.
        How will we fight?

        we’ll lift the telegu with the rap, the gruel will not work
  3. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 12 September 2019 16: 14
    0
    Battle robots are of course the future ..... but most likely not the closest. After 50 years, perhaps already full-fledged combat robots will carry out combat missions.
    1. Ilya Melnov
      Ilya Melnov 13 September 2019 04: 23
      0
      Quote: Alexey-74
      Future

      it is already present, the future is completely autonomous units of robots.
  4. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 12 September 2019 16: 15
    +8
    Imagine that the armored legions of Russia are rolling into the Baltic states. T-90 tanks are infantry-fighting infantry fighting vehicles along the sprawling fields of Latvia.
    I already cried laughing laughing
  5. Piramidon
    Piramidon 12 September 2019 16: 15
    +2
    Imagine that the armored legions of Russia are rolling into the Baltic states.

    Well, at least hinted at what the hell this Baltic States of Russia fell? What is so valuable in it to waste motor resources? Then we would understand - maybe it’s really worth conquering fool laughing
    1. Nycomed
      Nycomed 12 September 2019 16: 25
      +1
      "What's so valuable about her,"
      Lithuania, in due time, paid taxes with brooms, there was absolutely nothing to take from them ... crying
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 12 September 2019 16: 32
        +2
        Quote: Nycomed
        Lithuania, in due time, paid taxes with brooms, there was absolutely nothing to take from them ... crying

        It seems to be goat cheese too.
  6. saknivukne
    saknivukne 12 September 2019 16: 24
    -4
    I love paintings by Aivazovsky. And robots, yes, at the next distribution will come in handy.
  7. Kontrik
    Kontrik 12 September 2019 16: 27
    +3
    Look .. the USA openly considers us their opponents and this is in the order of things already .. And we in Russia call them all "partners" and then we spit (when the camera is turned off)))
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 12 September 2019 16: 34
      +3
      Quote: Kontrik
      You look ka .. USA openly consider us their opponents

      NOT ALREADY, but EVERYTHING. Since 1945.
      1. Kontrik
        Kontrik 12 September 2019 18: 15
        -1
        Quote: Piramidon
        Quote: Kontrik
        You look ka .. USA openly consider us their opponents

        NOT ALREADY, but EVERYTHING. Since 1945.

        Well, in the days of the USSR, NATO was polite to the point of diarrhea .. And now they have already placed their bases almost near Moscow .. And our government, all "partners and partners" .. heh heh
        Although we are responding to them, we have placed a base near Israel! And wait .. lol
        Just that, right away .. bully
        1. Ilya Melnov
          Ilya Melnov 13 September 2019 04: 45
          0
          Quote: Kontrik
          Although we are responding to them, we have placed a base near Israel! And wait ..
          Just that, right away ..

          just like Che? Terrible express concern? ...
  8. Thrifty
    Thrifty 12 September 2019 16: 38
    +2
    That is, our complexes "Uranus" are guano for them, and they themselves are, in fact, our "uraniums" and are trying to repeat. ..
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 12 September 2019 17: 14
      +2
      Uranium is a normal development.
      We must continue to work on it.
      Estonians also made a successful caterpillar cart.
  9. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 12 September 2019 16: 40
    +4
    The United States considers robots a promising way to deal with Russian tanks


    And Russia is considered aggressive fool
  10. And
    And 12 September 2019 16: 41
    +9
    Bloodthirsty Russians captured the Baltic states and ate all Latvians, and only a lonely American robot stands guard over democracy and Western values ​​and alone fights off hordes of cannibals in earflaps with balalaikas - Hollywood is urgently making a patriotic film, the script is ready.
    But seriously, with respect to the article by BreakingDefense and its authors - why American hospital attendants have so poorly performed their duties, they again lost their minds and began to carry another schizophrenic nonsense.
    1. nikon7717
      nikon7717 12 September 2019 18: 55
      0
      Who diagnoses already? It seems those who were the first to get out of the fool))
  11. AVA77
    AVA77 12 September 2019 17: 08
    +2
    If the armored legions of Russia rolled into the Baltic states. Figs, this wedge would stop them. laughing
    Well and so, earlier to slow down the advancement of the enemy, the fields were simply mined.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 12 September 2019 17: 56
      +2
      Quote: AVA77
      Well and so, earlier to slow down the advancement of the enemy, the fields were simply mined.

      They also put up a fence made of "chain-link".
      1. AVA77
        AVA77 12 September 2019 18: 33
        +1
        I did not know about the fence! This fundamentally complicates the planning of our offensive operation, right across the front laughing You will have to dig undermines only in certain areas. wink
  12. Astra55
    Astra55 12 September 2019 17: 26
    +5
    T-90 tanks lead infantry-fighting infantry fighting vehicles along the sprawling fields of Latvia

    In this place, by design, the reader should weep. crying
    And to rally even closer around the beams of democracy.
  13. Victor Star
    Victor Star 12 September 2019 17: 32
    +2
    More and more often, the inhabited Strugatsky island is recalled. Scaffolds stuffed with automatic weapons ...
  14. rocket757
    rocket757 12 September 2019 17: 33
    +1
    Robots, robots ... they will find application on the field for! There will be means of dealing with them. They do not represent anything fundamentally new.
  15. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 12 September 2019 17: 37
    +2
    What are the projects, labor, costs of manufacturing this miracle of technology for? Golf carts to nationalize, using the law on martial law, put navigators DZHIPIES, JAVELINS on them, and by sea, transport fleet fill the greasy spiky fields of the Baltic states. Expect in ambush hordes of Russian tanks.
  16. Tuzik
    Tuzik 12 September 2019 17: 39
    +2
    It looks like a World War I tank
  17. mark2
    mark2 12 September 2019 17: 56
    +4
    That damn science fiction. Russian tanks in a warring country in a march as in a parade. Pancake. Yes, I understand that this can not be. There is always an intelligence group ahead.
    Well, then, is it only the Americans’s patented technique, first to burn everything out with missiles and then tanks and infantry?
    Well, if you fantasize, then I would still spray orange after the rockets so that the forest turns into poles.
    Since we are invited to fight, and the Baltic states are not needed, then why take care of the ecology of useless territory.
  18. Donald72
    Donald72 12 September 2019 18: 07
    +5
    Film Short Circuit, Part 1, Episode 1
  19. HAM
    HAM 12 September 2019 18: 07
    +2
    If the Yankees consider us Russians such fools, then why are they afraid of us! ??
  20. beeper
    beeper 12 September 2019 18: 11
    +1
    I don’t understand if the “analytegs” in the United States naively think that the “armored legions of Russia” will “roll” across the “spike fields” of the Baltic limitrophes without reconnaissance patrols and air cover ?! smile
    "Imagine" the same size "golf carts" ground Russian reconnaissance robots, accompanied by small sapper robots, who, in coordination with aerial reconnaissance and target designation drones and terminator drones, will follow the "armored legions of Russia" and completing the reconnaissance of the enemy's targets, and issuing target designations to the terminator drones hanging in the air along the route of the armored vehicle columns advance ... and, oh, horror, only "rock the boat" and at least somehow begin to show activity, preparing to shoot, enemy robots with "Javelins "how Russian robots will find and destroy them! Enemy reconnaissance and target designation drones will be "crushed" by the electronic warfare means attached to the "legions" or, airborne ones, shot down by interceptor drones .... winked
  21. Charik
    Charik 12 September 2019 18: 35
    +1
    everything is exactly the opposite: we’ll ride on the fields along the fields of the Latvians and Russian robots will walk along them
  22. saveall
    saveall 12 September 2019 18: 47
    +1
    The publication from the United States considers robots a promising way to deal with Russian tanks

    And if even those robots will cost a billion dollars apiece, then luck is sure to smile at you ... Well, not all of course ...
  23. Mihail2019
    Mihail2019 12 September 2019 19: 03
    +1
    Quote from quote:
    "Imagine that the armored legions of Russia are rolling into the Baltic states. T-90 tanks are driving infantry fighting vehicles, filled with infantry, across the earing fields of Latvia. Suddenly, Javelin missiles fly out from ambush positions in a forest belt several kilometers from the attacking ones. T-90 active defense systems and a jet armor destroys some anti-tank warheads, but not all - and lighter BMPs are destroyed. Cars burn, people die. "
    Next, we turn the situation around 180 degrees and what do we see ?!
    And we see the clear aggressive plans of the "partners" from NATO, which they have just voiced.
    Something I do not see any statements from our military (or military circles) regarding the "spike fields of Bavaria or Silesia" ..
    And about Latvia - why did its "spike fields" surrender to us ?!
    We also managed to become leaders in wheat export on our territory, despite the fact that the central chernozem of nifig has not yet been sown ..
    So who, in the end, bears plans then ?! Which, like, are aggressive?
  24. Pavel57
    Pavel57 12 September 2019 19: 30
    +1
    In this case, the robot is a drone, it only flies low.
  25. tank64rus
    tank64rus 12 September 2019 19: 36
    +1
    Well, Russia is not slurping soup cabbage. While the Americans are frightening with articles and videos, our robots have been tested already in a combat situation in Syria. Let the tests reveal the flaws, but this is the job. At the Army 2018, I saw models of two robotic systems based on Armata and two T-90 (72) (80) plus UAVs and CPUs and based on BMOP and two Uranus-9s with UAVs and CPUs. Well, now Shoigu has been shown heavy robots based on the T-72 tank and BMOP. We also have a range of combat robots of both medium and light types. So in the BreakingDefense publication they want to see the Russian Army from the 90s, but this is no longer the case.
  26. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 12 September 2019 20: 46
    +1
    These robots will be intercepted and they will tumble down the abrashka.
  27. Wedmak
    Wedmak 12 September 2019 21: 02
    0
    I don’t see a problem to robotize ATGM Chrysanthemum. You don’t even have to invent anything special. While the USA is building something in 5-10-15 tons with an unknown result, we already have ready-made systems, all that remains is to deliver the remote control. The specialized design bureau will cope with this in a couple of months + 3-4 months for fine-tuning and testing.
  28. Antares
    Antares 12 September 2019 21: 48
    +1
    I wonder - are Americans preparing for the wars of the past?
    Or do they want their opponents to believe this?
    Or is it all for the layman and taxpayer?
    Or all together?
  29. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 12 September 2019 22: 02
    0
    A piece of iron, quite tolerably adapted to well-leveled and sprinkled sand tracks. For a sort of sports day in stadiums. The first obstacle on the way from the demolished residential building will make this toy the property of the enemy.
  30. Rwmos
    Rwmos 12 September 2019 23: 09
    -1
    Instead, Russians discover one burned-out golf cart-sized vehicle

    Not for golf. and for the elf wink In general, the quote is great, starting from the "spike fields of the Baltic" - and up to the most tomatoes planted in these fields of dzha-volyna ... On which armored legions roll ... However, drug addiction sometimes needs to be treated ...
  31. garri-lin
    garri-lin 13 September 2019 01: 30
    0
    In defense, stationary missiles with remote-guided missiles are much more effective. More precisely with remote target selection. A ground satellite drone for a tank is more needed for reconnaissance. And ideally, also for target designation of missiles launched from a tank. A flying one is better, but if the enemy knocks them off, a crawling one will do.
  32. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 13 September 2019 01: 46
    0
    A heavy tank will educate a bunch of dwarfs around itself, hiding behind this shellop. It is interesting to see how these nonsense will be pulled out of the rubble, pits, potholes and swamps. The company drove with tablets will compete with each other in speed of capsizing into failures, interfering and enmity with each other.
    I would understand the desire to provide the defense of heavy equipment with drones, detecting anti-tankers from above. And not only reporting, but also participating in the destruction of their capabilities. But to suffer with these clumsy, undoubtedly expensive (much more expensive than the same heavy quadrocopters) pieces of iron, sending PEOPLE to pull rubbish from dead ends and rubble .....
  33. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 13 September 2019 01: 50
    0
    Quote: RWMos
    Instead, Russians discover one burned-out golf cart-sized vehicle

    Not for golf. and for the elf wink In general, the quote is great, starting from the "spike fields of the Baltic" - and up to the most tomatoes planted in these fields of dzha-volyna ... On which armored legions roll ... However, drug addiction sometimes needs to be treated ...

    Strongly disagree. The enemy must fully welcome the dislocations of the psyche, and correct his military useless expenses to more useless ones. Not to treat, but toss up new parties with foolishness.
  34. Victor March 47
    Victor March 47 13 September 2019 02: 16
    0
    Quote: voyaka uh
    Rofar is an advanced AFAR.
    Less power consumption, operation from submillimeter to decimeter waves, clearer processed "radio picture".
    But he does not particularly threaten stealth.
    Short waves are more easily absorbed by stealth coatings.

    You are a profound ignoramus in these matters. For sufficiently complete absorption of submillimeter radiation, micron coating thicknesses that absorb radio waves are needed. Longer ones require more solid thicknesses, since the surface effect is worse, the longer the wave of radar radiation. For such pulses, the thickness and degree of absorption are already insufficient. Scanning the radar beam of the locator in the BAND of frequencies makes any stealth visible. For combining the incompatible ..... There is little example of the destruction of the most stealth at that time in Yugoslavia archaic air defense system at that time?