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In the USA: the Russian Federation will increase the activity of work on the CR "Petrel" in connection with the failure of the tests

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The American media, citing data from intelligence agencies, are publishing about the Russian tests of the Burevestnik intercontinental missile system.




US intelligence claims that Russia has already tried five times to test the Petrel, but supposedly each of these tests failed. It is reported that in connection with the “test failure”, Russia intends to increase activity in terms of finalizing a cruise missile with a nuclear power plant (NPP). It is stated that the Russian Federation intends to complete the work and a set of tests by the 2025 year.

Moreover, it was added that Russia "follows the path of an arms race and is preparing for war." Such an interpretation was proposed on CNBC.

From the material:

Russia conducted the first tests of the Petrel in the 2017 year. And it, and the three tests in 2018, and the test in 2019 ended in accidents and failed.

It is alleged that the most “successful” of all tests was that during which the so-called “global range” cruise missile covered about 13,5 km. Then control of the Petrel was lost. These data are also published with reference to US intelligence.

Recall that Russian President Vladimir Putin spoke about the work on a cruise missile with a nuclear power plant in a message to the Federal Assembly in March 2018. Then the words of the president were accompanied by a famous video.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 12 September 2019 05: 56
    +6
    This categorical judgment reminds Powell with a test tube ..
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 12 September 2019 06: 44
      +6
      Moreover, it was added that Russia "follows the path of an arms race and is preparing for war." Such an interpretation was proposed on CNBC.
      Yes, we always live in this mode, the battle with the weather, the battle for the harvest, the battle in bed, the battle with the snow, then the battle with the weather. Locusts, alcoholics and smokers, we live almost in trenches, heating mains tear everywhere (season ahead) all life- struggle .. else some USA somewhere will be hidden ... not up to them ... let them be hidden, only quietly.
      1. krot
        krot 12 September 2019 12: 21
        -2
        This categorical judgment reminds Powell with a test tube ..

        Right! Special service striped generally passed strongly! They were there and they couldn’t prevent 9/11, terrorist attacks of such a scale are a shame .. And here they know everything about Petrel .. Haha .. They probably read it on the news or watched it on VKontakte))
    2. Vilensky
      Vilensky 12 September 2019 08: 10
      +3
      This categorical judgment reminds Powell with a test tube ..
      and honey Psaki laughing
  2. Kelwin
    Kelwin 12 September 2019 06: 14
    +9
    Mmm ... CNBC is an absolute authority, only our grannies on the bench are cooler, they all know what we’ll drink tomorrow and take it for a snack. hi
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 12 September 2019 06: 40
      +1
      Our grannies could not stand the competition. They never even thought to decide who would drink and eat what.
      And the media both decide, and force, and control the implementation of their decisions.
    2. Grandfather
      Grandfather 12 September 2019 06: 47
      +2
      Quote: KelWin
      Mmm ... CNBC is an absolute authority, only our grannies on the bench are cooler, they all know what we’ll drink tomorrow and take it for a snack. hi

      Well, yes ... they have all the drunk men, and the youth are drug addicts ... at the same time, the old ass, rotten tomatoes in the toilet, flushes the whole porch in the feces! wassat
    3. Roman070280
      Roman070280 12 September 2019 09: 49
      +5
      Quote: KelWin
      Mmm ... CNBC is an absolute authority, only our grannies on the bench are cooler, they all know what we’ll drink tomorrow and take it for a snack. hi


      Well, this is by the year 2025 ..
      In the meantime: * In Tver, the clergy poured 70 liters of holy water from the plane onto the city to heal the inhabitants from drunkenness. * (C)
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 12 September 2019 06: 32
    +2
    Again preparation and direct, direct to vigorous, vigorous!
    It has long been found out that "no one wanted to die" in a vigorous fire and as long as there is some parity of mutual destruction, no one will rock the boat ...
    1. Letun
      Letun 12 September 2019 09: 07
      0
      Quote: rocket757
      as long as there is a certain parity of mutual destruction, no one will rock the boat .....

      From chance, or a patient on the head (Boris Johnson) of the head of state, no one is immune. So there’s 100 confidence, alas.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 12 September 2019 09: 14
        0
        Quote: Letun
        From chance, or a patient on the head (Boris Johnson) of the head of state, no one is immune. So there’s 100 confidence, alas.

        One hundred percent and state insurance did not give !!!
        Alas and ah, we live in such an unreliable world.
      2. syndicalist
        syndicalist 12 September 2019 11: 51
        +1
        Do you believe that we are all healthy?
        1. Letun
          Letun 12 September 2019 16: 42
          +1
          Quote: syndicalist
          Do you believe that we are all healthy?

          Speaking specifically, about the possibility, by a dope, of unleashing a nuclear conflict. Then yes. I guess. Both the supreme and the Minister of Defense are quite adequate people.
  4. YOUR
    YOUR 12 September 2019 06: 35
    +1
    ...... It is alleged that the most “successful” of all tests was that during which the so-called “global range” cruise missile covered about 13,5 km. Then control of the Petrel was lost. These data are also published with reference to US intelligence .........
    And the fact that such cruise missiles are completely autonomous, such information the American intelligence could not get.
    It turns out that they constantly lose control of their Axes after they are launched.
  5. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 12 September 2019 07: 20
    +1
    Well, you can't immediately understand this USA, as well as a beginning prostitute! Now they have "one grade", and then, suddenly, "and another" ... then the tests of "Petrel" were successful, then they turned out to be a failure! request
  6. yfast
    yfast 12 September 2019 07: 23
    +4
    Quote: YOUR

    And the fact that such cruise missiles are completely autonomous is not possible to obtain such information from American intelligence

    Test samples will probably transmit telemetry. Again, apparently, a leak somewhere.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 12 September 2019 12: 13
      0
      Quote: yfast
      Test samples will probably transmit telemetry. Again, apparently, a leak somewhere.

      More likely not even a leak, but a commonplace RTR. Ever since the days of the USSR, the Yankees have constantly monitored all our tests.
  7. Thrifty
    Thrifty 12 September 2019 07: 30
    0
    I understand the information war, but if, in addition to the rotten lies, the USA has nothing to prove, then it’s better to shut up and stand silently aside.
  8. Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 12 September 2019 07: 54
    +5
    All these "statements" in the American media for internal use - to calm the "GREAT" and confirm the "GREAT GREAT" for the paranoid "US fans". We somehow do not give a damn about such information ... We say in such cases: "The jackals howl - the caravan is moving."
    1. Vilensky
      Vilensky 12 September 2019 08: 13
      -1
      "The jackals howl - the caravan moves on."

      It would be better: "mobaka barks the wind carries."
      drinks
  9. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 12 September 2019 08: 04
    +5
    What then is so hysterical? An unsuccessful project, scary only on paper, a cartoon, ... What else did they say about him? Would be glad, striped ears, that the tests were unsuccessful, and the money of the Russians "disappeared" ...
  10. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 12 September 2019 08: 47
    +1
    US intelligence probably received data on the Internet?
    1. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 12 September 2019 10: 18
      0
      Quote: Alexey-74
      US intelligence probably received data on the Internet?

      On the Internet, I’ve just beaten, and the data they received from satellites and possibly corrupt people, whom our counterintelligence missed
  11. ultra
    ultra 12 September 2019 08: 54
    +4
    Most likely, such stuffing suggests the opposite. I understand that the Americans want us to react somehow, give more information on working with the rocket. I think this is the reason.
  12. Self
    Self 12 September 2019 09: 09
    +1
    There are two types of nuclear propulsion systems for aircraft. Direct-flow and double-circuit. Neither one nor the other is suitable for rockets. The first phonite is scary, for it throws out decay products. That is, it cannot fly on combat duty. Leaves behind the infected area. The second is extremely heavy and bulky. And you can not make it small due to technological features. The Americans cannot but know this. Why are they pretending to really believe in this type of missile? To knock out your military budgets?
    1. asv363
      asv363 12 September 2019 11: 00
      +1
      You're wrong. There is work on a nuclear engine for space. In particular, they planned to use it in flight to Mars. There really, to increase traction, it was supposed to use fuel elements open at one end. But the module with the nuclear propulsion system was to be put into orbit according to the project with a conventional liquid rocket. The topic was quickly made in 2013, but some remained with brochures for exhibitions.

      What decay products will the Petrel "throw out" with hermetically sealed fuel elements?
    2. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 12 September 2019 11: 56
      0
      Quote: Self
      Nuclear propulsion systems for aircraft are two types

      Maybe it will be "more correct": "maybe ..."? And yet ... "nuclear" can be all types of air-jet engines ... ie. not only ramjet, but also turbojet, and PuVRD ...
  13. Galleon
    Galleon 12 September 2019 09: 16
    +2
    Internal report service to their superiors. Reported and shut up. Why breed paranoia? A painful reaction on our part in all the media will not give anyone a positive effect. Or is all this news for the sake of another painful reaction? Let them report what they want, to us it is generally no side.
  14. Cry
    Cry 12 September 2019 09: 42
    +1
    According to the US reaction, it is clear that the CIA is not asleep. So, it’s time for counterintelligence (SMERSH) to work out and prove that they’re not for nothing eating folk bread with barbecue and black caviar on cognac.
    1. Phenomenon
      Phenomenon 12 September 2019 10: 14
      0
      So the CIA receives data directly from the presidential administration. You won’t work here.
      1. Cry
        Cry 12 September 2019 10: 40
        -1
        And there, what are the guys with steel eggs? Shoot ...
  15. vmo
    vmo 12 September 2019 09: 43
    0
    Well, all the little ones are straightforward, but they cannot logically think because of their stupid confidence and self-image of the earth, eccentrics.
  16. And
    And 12 September 2019 09: 53
    0
    Well, in general, everything is as usual with the American media - with the Russians everything is bad, with the Americans - everything is the best. But since the aggressive bear doesn’t sleep - let's give the Pentagon a couple more trillions of money, just in case.
  17. U-58
    U-58 12 September 2019 09: 54
    0
    The stump is clear that the inclusion of the theme "Petrel" in the message of the guarantor was a purely political game in the light of the upcoming elections.
    Putin had almost no other positive arguments ...
    Work on this rocket went on and on.
    Perhaps not so fast to show cartoons about her.
    But I have no doubt that if the task is posed and the prerequisites for its creation are in the form of developments, then the goal will be achieved.
    Failure of tests is also the result of a knowledge box.
    Just do not expect the series to launch tomorrow.
    All in good time.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 12 September 2019 10: 10
      +2
      The latter case is worse than the previous ones. Iron used to break. The last time the whole group of developers died tragically.
  18. Phenomenon
    Phenomenon 12 September 2019 10: 13
    +1
    Over the gray plain of the sea, the wind collects clouds. Between the clouds and the sea, the Petrel fell five times, similar to Chernobyl.
  19. Hikaro
    Hikaro 12 September 2019 10: 43
    0
    For soldiers from Israel. It was not the developers who died, but the technicians, the adjusters and testers! What makes this tragedy worse! For it is with their hands that the product is brought to life, brought to normal combat condition !! And here words come to me in memory of one character (a Jew) from the seven bankers in Russia. "We will eat the next matzo in the presidential office!" That was scary !! After all, these people practically ruled Russia !! And about any "Petrel", "Daggers" speech could not even be! And Russia was one big matzah! Which was torn to pieces, including representatives of God's chosen people !!
  20. Old26
    Old26 12 September 2019 10: 55
    +3
    Quote: 210ox
    This categorical judgment reminds Powell with a test tube ..

    Categorization is not categorical, but the silence of the grave over the past 1,5 years makes you think. About "Vanguard", "Dagger", "Peresvet", even about "Poseidon" (not to mention "Zircon") some information periodically slips through. And about "Petrel" - just silence. And even the point is not in the calculations of the American intelligence how long this rocket flew and for how long. They can be false or true. The main thing is that we have silence, and this brings up bad thoughts about what is happening with the project

    Quote: YOUR
    And the fact that such cruise missiles are completely autonomous, such information the American intelligence could not get.

    The namesake, of course, do not overestimate the enemy, but also underestimate il. The USSR and the USA have always monitored each other very tightly, and all the more so, such tests cannot take place spontaneously, they say they wanted to carry out tomorrow. Such tests, no matter how autonomous they are, are accompanied by a number of unmasking signs. And intelligence is trying to track all this. so most often information about failed trials (no matter who) has a foundation. Moreover, the same US satellite constellation is much larger than ours, plus satellites from other NATO countries are involved, from reconnaissance ships and aircraft. So they could get the information. It is not known, of course, to what extent, but they could. And stuffing through newspapers is a way to confirm or deny information.
    I will give an example. In the late 70s - and in the 80s, I had to look through publications that came to our libraries according to my official duties. Unfortunately, sometimes censorship worked very clumsily and through its work allowed the enemy services to confirm or deny this or that information. So, a concrete example.
    English magazine "Space flight" (Space flights). Among the interesting materials there were always published data on launches indicating the dimensions of the satellites, the parameters of their orbits and, most importantly, the approximate purpose (relative to Soviet) satellites. And there was also a section like "Letters" or "Ask-answer". We wrote letters with specific questions and received answers to them. For about 1,5 years, there were several letters with the same content. Almost the same. It was about the Buran spacecraft, which were then being created in the USSR. The letter was like this.
    "Dear sir! My name is XXXX. I am very interested in space flights. I heard that in the Soviet Union they are creating a ship similar to the American Space Shuttle, but with a significantly higher carrying capacity. Up to 100 tons. Is that true?"
    The answer followed. "No" (with explanations)
    A couple of months later, a second letter appeared with approximately the same content, but with an indication of the carrying capacity of 75 tons. The answer was "no". Then the carrying capacity dropped to 50 tons. And when it turned out to be equal to 30 tons, the answer to this letter was removed from the magazine by the censor. True, in the design bureau, such a mill came in color and without exceptions. And in the city libraries - already censored. It doesn't take much effort to check what is left in the library. HERE such a stuffing can be just special for confirmation or refutation. In the expectation that someone will say a little more than their intelligence knows ...

    Quote: Nikolaevich I
    Well, you can't immediately understand this USA, as well as a beginning prostitute! Now they have "one grade", and then, suddenly, "and another" ... then the tests of "Petrel" were successful, then they turned out to be a failure! request

    Namesake, see my post above, the answer is our namesake, your comrade

    Quote: Alexey-74
    US intelligence probably received data on the Internet?

    The duties of intelligence include analysis of all media, including and the internet. In Soviet times, enemy intelligence was an unheard of fortune if it could subscribe to Zovod (KB) large print runs where a lot of primary information could be filtered out.
  21. capsid
    capsid 12 September 2019 12: 09
    0
    Quote: Alexey-74
    US intelligence probably received data on the Internet?

    They have more intelligence satellites, plus, the information is worth the money. Then even Zakharova will not say anything, because she knows nothing, and she is not supposed to own such information.
  22. Cympak
    Cympak 12 September 2019 14: 17
    +1
    It is a pity that money is thrown to the wind, but proton accelerators for cancer treatment could be collected .....
    Where are they going to shoot this crap? In a beautiful cartoon, we saw the Petrel flying across the Atlantic Ocean, but how did it get there? This is the main question!
    In the West, NATO countries with air defense, interceptors and AWACS aircraft. In the Northwest is the NATO fleet, American aircraft carriers also with AWACS aircraft and powerful AEGIS air defense. Across the Arctic Ocean, but there a powerful NORAD barrier awaits them. In the East, the US fleet again, plus Japan. But south of China, Iran, Turkey. I do not think that they will be glad that nuclear-powered rockets will fly through their territory.
    CRs (with a nuclear or any other engine) are well detected by modern AWACS aircraft and then intercepted by air defense systems and interceptors. In addition, a nuclear engine emits heat very well. Such a missile can be easily detected with a thermal imager at a very large distance. Why do you need such a prodigy? For nuclear deterrence, it would be better if ballistic missiles riveted, incl. with planning blocks.
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  24. Old26
    Old26 12 September 2019 19: 07
    +2
    Quote: Hikaro
    It’s not the developers who died, but the technicians-adjusters and testers!

    Sometimes the developers went to the test to see and feel the crayfish like what.
  25. Nitarius
    Nitarius 13 September 2019 05: 52
    0
    Even if it has flown 13 km)) and it has already flown)) then it will fly to the USA sooner or later)) the question is in time))) and it will come for debts as well))
  26. Old26
    Old26 13 September 2019 15: 15
    +2
    Quote: Nitarius
    Even if it has flown 13 km)) and it has already flown)) then it will fly to the USA sooner or later)) the question is in time))) and it will come for debts as well))

    May be. Everything can be. It may be that she flew 13 km at the starting accelerator, and the main engine did not start. A lot of options. Information - Zero