China will build 071E project landing ship for Thailand

China will build the 071E Project Landing Helicopter Dock for Thailand. The signing ceremony between the Thai Navy and China Shipbuilding State Corporation (CSSC) was held on 9 this September in Beijing.

China at the Hudong-Zhonghua Shipyard in Shanghai, China Shipbuilding State Corporation (CSSC), will build an 071E landing helicopter dock for Thailand’s Navy. The value of the contract is 130 million dollars. The terms for laying the ship and its construction are not given.

Reportedly, the 071E project docking ship is an export version of the 071 projected landing helicopter dock ships (DVKD) for the Navy of the PLA, of the Kunlunshan type. Currently, the Chinese Navy has six DKVD of this type, another one is undergoing a test phase, and the eighth is being completed after launching in June this year. The construction of all DKVD has been underway at the Shanghai Hudong-Zhonghua Shipyard since 2007 of the year.

Sixth Landing Helicopter Dock Ship Project 071 Navy PLA

The total displacement of the ships of the 071 project is about 25 thousand tons. Length - 210 meters, width - 28 m (waterline), draft - 7 m. Engines: 4 diesel engines SEMT Pielstick 16 PC 2.6 V400; power - 47 200 l. with. (35 197 kW); mover - 2 propellers; Speed ​​- 20 knots (maximum); cruising range - 11 000 km at 18 nodes.

Armament: artillery 1 × 76 mm AU AK-176; anti-aircraft artillery 4 × 30 mm AU AK-630; 4 of the Z-8 helicopter, two 726 project air hovercraft, reminiscent of American LCAC type boats.

The 071 project ships are capable of performing four tasks at once: land amphibious landings on land, receive helicopters, be a command center and a floating hospital.

Comments

[Destiny]

Build. Does anyone have doubts?

[210ox]

What can be doubts? I'm talking about the number of these ships .. The Chinese decided to expand the living space?

[Mavrikiy]

China will build a docking ship for Thailand

And we could if only, if only.

[Nycomed]

We could not, because we have never built anything like this. But friends of Thais - States and may be offended that such an order went to China.

[210ox]

Yah? Aircraft carriers built. With a certain will and finances, I would also pull the dock.

[Nycomed]

"Yah? Aircraft carriers built"
Built in Nikolaev.

[Grits]

Quote: 210ox

Yah? Aircraft carriers built. With a certain will and finances, I would also pull the dock.

Remember how he stood at the howl when the Mistral did not give us. Say - nafig we do not need them. Yes, we are such a tub - one left. For six months we can build. And we will rivet like pies. 5 years later. Built?

[vadim dok]

It is necessary that China build such helicopter carriers-docks, or something larger, for Russia! China is the best friend of Russia!

[Mavrikiy]

The stern parts of "our" Mistrals were built in St. Petersburg.
We will build if necessary. Yes, and France is already salivating, "let's be friends in the military department." There will be Mistrals, 5 years newer and cooler.

[Grits]

Quote: Mavrikiy

There will be Mistral, 5 years newer and cooler.

Only a wooden model at the next exhibition will be newer for five years. The ship itself in iron, if it appears, is not earlier than in about 15 years. Or do you recall how much Green was built? Here are just Gren - a continuation of the line of BDK, which already knew how to build. UDC for us is a dark forest. And the dimensions will be more serious.

[donavi49]

Not. They have not been friends for a long time, but like that.

China sold more submarines to Thais in 2017 = this is a continuation of the MTC in the field of offshore construction.

Well and the rest:
Tanks bought, new VN1 armored personnel carriers bought (40 pieces).

KS-1 bought (cheap SAM).

Another major partner is the Republic of Korea.
468 million per Frigate in the 2016 year and have already received the ship. And with 32 SAM ESSM. That is quite good.

Also, the cute general Sininat Wongwajirapakdi (lover / concubine = already the King's wife) will now be able to master the new modern aircraft. T-50.

[APASUS]

You can fuck!

The value of the contract is 130 million dollars.

if we take into account that it is 4000 tons heavier than the French Mistrals, it turns out that the "partners" could heat us not very weakly. Then it was better to order from China, for a billion it turned out 7 full units

[Alexey RA]

Quote: APASUS

if we take into account that it is 4000 tons heavier than the French Mistrals, it turns out that the "partners" could have heated us very well.

You are comparing mini-UDC with DVDK.
The Chinese is an ordinary DVD, a typical Whidbey Island, without a continuous flight deck and with a limited air group. The Mistral is a mini-UDC capable of creaking, but providing its air group with landing and fire support for the Marines.

[APASUS]

Quote: Alexey RA

You are comparing mini-UDC with DVDK.

I compared the mass - overall dimensions and prices. And that one and that the second, in the war part nikakuschee, but the price tag at times

[Alexey RA]

Quote: APASUS

I compared the mass - overall dimensions and prices.

Well, the supertanker is twice the size of an aircraft carrier. And it costs several times less. Conclusion - we were heated with a price, do we need to build tankers?

Quote: APASUS

And that one and that the second, in the warhead nikakushie, but the price tag at times

Tell me, on which warhead of the DVKD and UDC are nonexistent? Or, in your opinion, should landing ships engage in battle with enemy ships and aircraft?
The task of the landing ships is the landing of the marines on the enemy coast. Moreover, the BO of this coast should be "softened" in advance.
DVKD can only land l / s and equipment.
The UDC can simultaneously provide fire support to the landing forces, cleaning up with attack helicopters what is left after processing the coast with aircraft and ships.

[APASUS]

Quote: Alexey RA

Well, the supertanker is twice the size of an aircraft carrier. And it costs several times less. Conclusion - we were heated with a price, do we need to build tankers?

You have too primitive comparisons, compare the price of a barrel for oil and a car

Quote: Alexey RA

Tell me, on which warhead of the DVKD and UDC are nonexistent?

Yes, as much as you want, here is the Mistral project and native arms support:

Self-defense equipment is represented by two 30-mm Brenda Mauser artillery mounts and two VSRAD air defense systems. The ship’s three-coordinate radar is used as a target designation, and direct weapon control is carried out using an optoelectronic weapon control system. There are also several sites for the installation of 12,7 mm heavy machine guns and two sites with turret mounts for Sindbad MANPADS (Mistral missile launchers of the MBDA company with a strike zone in height from 5 to 3000 m and in range from 0,5 to 6 km).

And here is Type 071 and its native weapons

The armament consists of a 76-mm gun mount, four 30-mm MZAK and four 18-pipe jamming launchers.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: APASUS

You have too primitive comparisons, compare the price of a barrel for oil and a car

So you compare the truck for the infantry (DVKD) with the armored personnel carrier (UDC).

Quote: APASUS

Yes, as much as you want, here is the Mistral project and native arms support

Yes, no one in the world is arming landing ships so that they can act alone. In the USSR, at first, the ancient 57-mm ZIFs were generally installed on the BDK.
An amphibious assault ship always operates as part of a group, covered by other ships. If only because no landing (well, except for the landing in the countries of the "last world") is impossible without a group of fire support for the landing. And the amphibious assault ship's firepower is designed only for self-defense against what the air defense of the compound will overcome. In addition, each weapon system installed on a landing ship subtracts volume and weight from the main landing ship for this ship.

[ciujoilu]

I just wanted to write 130 apiece and 720 apiece. Do you want, do not want, you start to think

[Nycomed]

Are you hinting that the "kickback" that someone (everyone knows perfectly well who) took for the "Mistral" returned to Russia just like that? It turns out that the French "got"?

[Mavrikiy]

You re-read at least in WIKI from the beginning, then turn on your head, and you will be able to share the column.
Us Mistral for Thailand to which place? At our request, French was to be

In fact, the composition of steel alloys for the hulls of ships was changed practically to the ice class, which allows them to be used in northern latitudes, including in difficult ice conditions.
The height of the ship was increased, since the internal docks of the ship were converted for the mooring of larger helicopters of the Ka-28 and Ka-52K type.
There are places for the installation of additional weapons, in particular, air defense systems to repel air raids, as well as rapid-fire artillery weapons and large-caliber automatic installations to repel attacks from the sea. Strengthening weapons will allow the use of UDC in the open sea with less escort of surface guard ships.
Housing conditions are slightly changed.

Everything was forgotten, the French transferred technology, because of them there was all the fuss. They specifically targeted the Kuril Islands.

[common man]

Quote: Mavrikiy

In fact, the composition of steel alloys for the hulls of ships was changed practically to the ice class, which allows them to be used in northern latitudes, including in difficult ice conditions.

I wonder where Egypt found this difficult ice situation?

Quote: Alexey RA

DVKD can only land l / s and equipment.
UDC can simultaneously provide fire support

If we compare by analogy, the DVKD is an armored personnel carrier, and the UDC is a BMP. BMP cost is always higher.
In terms of functionality, the DVKD came, dropped off, and left for a new party. UDC came, dropped off, provides fire support. Therefore, it is located in the database area. And in order not to become a suicide, he needs means of self-defense. Air defense, and even better, PLO. Or at least anti-ballistic and anti-torpedo.

[donavi49]

Well, look at the equipment of all UDC / DKVD in the world. It is none. Unless the Wasps / America - they can repel something with their ESSM.

The task of covering the landing group falls entirely on the escort ships. If anything Gren, with a certain "luck" on the part of the enemy, will become a heap of burning scrap from one successfully entered Su-17B / Skyhawk with 500kg / 1000ft cast iron. And his 2 MZA (all three are very unlikely to be introduced - do not get up like that) will have a rather conditional efficiency even for what Penguin, I am already silent about Exocet / Harpoon.

However, in addition to this, Gren will have to go to the bay, since there are no high-speed landing facilities. Here on this site (which DKVD / UDC does not need to go through) - no escort will help him. Suddenly revived dug up T-55 as in a dash throws him on the bridge and the whole landing will end. Even if it doesn’t, it’s not so long ago that the BDK was stranded at the Pacific Fleet, and at its SAME training ground, on which everyone knew every stone. They planted it well - they pulled the 4 in tugs, including Photius Krylov. Now the captain seems to be attracted for this. What am I = breaking up in the bay and not only failing my landing, but also failing the entire section (because there’s no way to approach another BDK) it’s very simple even at my training ground, without means of enemy influence. DKVD / UDC ignore this section, and high-speed barges will somehow be able to miss each other, even if the barge is lost = disembarkation does not stop.

The task of UDC / DKVD is to maximize the displacement and volumes for the placement of targeted funds. That is, an aviation and amphibious group / high-speed boats and barges. If you make a cruiser from UDC / DKVD, then it will be very bad and useless UDC / DKVD, which also stands as a spaceship.

[common man]

Quote: donavi49

However, besides this, Gren will have to go to the bay,

In this case, Gren does not protect me in any way. In the first wave, the BDK can only land floating equipment, also at a distance from the coast.
The thing is that the same Gren or the 071th or Makassar, these are carriers, came, left. And Mistral or Wosp should be in the war zone. And they should have elementary anti-torpedo protection and missile defense. At least among the Russians, in the prevailing reality of the lack of escort ships.

[Mavrikiy]

I wonder where Egypt found this difficult ice situation?

You do it to me, not Egypt, it’s strange. I just think there were New Year's discounts, there’s nothing to do with it. In addition, I think there was increased thermal insulation and reduced Conder. This is now the United States was blown away, so you need to worry about possible showdowns with neighbors. And everyone needs ships and planes.
Option: Egypt decided to compete for Greenland.

[donavi49]

Well, Makkassar is still half the price. Hint that China has heated the Thais?

The price of these ships is very low. What kind of Sigma-type corvette is more expensive than DKVD. And that is the norm.

However, Mistral = is a full-fledged UDC on 6 sites, with a dedicated hangar level (and not like Dodko = helicopters in a cargo hold, instead of marines).

The Chinese chip by the way in the huge 68 dock. It fits a lot. Usually docks in the 50 area. On such DKVD. The 4 group of the Z-8 helicopter = but again, they are large and do not stack very well, therefore.

[Sniper]

just envy .. envy, and nostalgia for the USSR Navy.

[Petrol cutter]

Yes, why is there envy ... There is no funding. That’s all for a short time. If you don’t invest anything, then nothing will happen.
I have something to compare. Crawling plant rented one enterprise. Crawling dangling is unclear where. Although it seems to be FSUE. In the first half, as soon as possible, all the excess is cut out, exported, repaired. Modern equipment has been imported and is functioning.
* And in the neighboring factory * where I moved back from the rented part-a complete * bag *. Devastation and salary are about nothing. Professionals packs quit. Who will build? I would have left too, but my health is gone.
Right now, again, the back twisted, barely walking. Maybe the transition to * Rostec * in the fall will change something. Although it is hard to believe.

[Borsht]

The value of the contract is 130 million dollars.

The price of one F35.

[Avior]

maybe just buy from the Chinese?

[Catfish]

. Currently, the Chinese Navy has six DKVD of this type, another one is undergoing a test phase, and the eighth is being completed after launching in June this year.

And where are our sworn younger brothers going to land? It seems that Taiwan did not have long to enjoy its independence. If the PRC fleet moves to Taiwan, the Americans are unlikely to get involved in a serious war, most likely they will simply wash their hands. In general, all this is fraught ...

[donavi49]

And another 2 USPA is being built - one has already been assembled, will be lowered at the beginning of next year (if not this one).

[Catfish]

Hey, tihari minuscator, at least explain why the minus. Do you have vocabulary problems? Turn to colleagues, they will teach.

[Grits]

It would be better for us to build - we do not have enough brains for such ships

[Evil 55]

Thais are still those paratroopers .. Wherever they gathered, where and what to position and to whom to show their presence ..

[silver169]

It is high time for Russia to order a couple of dock ships from China. They themselves are not yet in a position to create, why not follow the experience of the "celestial" which, despite a rather highly developed industry, does not hesitate to order advanced weapons on the side.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: silver169

It is high time for Russia to order a couple of dock ships from China. They themselves are not yet in a position to create, why not follow the experience of the "celestial" which, despite a rather highly developed industry, does not hesitate to order advanced weapons on the side.

Do not write nonsense. China's shipbuilding is secondary, defining technology in Europe and the USA. China, as our best friend, is being blinded by a ship from plasticine, as for Thailand, but we need an ice class so that we can not scrape it off the ice.

[yehat]

Quote: 210ox

With a certain will and finances, I would also pull the dock.

finances do not build ships, they include the cash capacities of industry.
But they are not there, you even have a bulk carrier with gold swell, there is nothing to build and there are really not enough personnel.