The Netherlands declared Vladimir Zemach a suspect in the MN17 case

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Vladimir Tzemakh, considered a valuable key witness in the case of the crash of the Malaysian Boeing over the Donbass, became a suspect. Re-qualification of Tsemakh was announced by Dutch MP Katie Piri in an interview Deutsche Welle.

The Netherlands declared Vladimir Zemach a suspect in the MN17 case




According to Piri, the decision to re-qualify Tsemakh from witnesses to suspects was made by the international investigation team and the prosecutor of the Netherlands. They circulated a letter stating that after Zemakh’s exchange in Moscow, he was considered as a suspect.

Earlier, Katy Piri co-authored a letter to Zelensky, in which she urged him not to allow the extradition of Tsemakh to Russia. According to her, the extradition of Zemakh to Moscow was "too high a price Ukraine paid for the return of its citizens." The decision to include Zemakh on the exchange lists “became extremely painful for the Netherlands.” Because Ukraine did not fulfill its obligations.

From an international point of view, Ukraine has obligations providing for full cooperation in attempts to find those responsible for the downed MH17 aircraft. And having given one of the suspects to Moscow, Ukraine thereby did not keep its promise

- she said.

Piri claims that Russia’s insistent demand to include Zemakh on the exchange lists, says that “Moscow admits its guilt in the deaths of Boeing’s passengers. Now the Netherlands has no way to interrogate Zemakh.

Of course, we can ask Russia to provide him for interrogation. But we are not so naive. If Moscow wanted to be able to be summoned for questioning, she would not have stressed the need for his extradition. Therefore, I am afraid that Zemakh will never again appear in court as a witness

- said the European MP.

Recall that Dutch investigators managed to interrogate Vladimir Zemakh in the case of a downed Malaysian airliner. This was announced by Zelensky's entourage, adding that because of this, they even had to postpone the exchange date. At the same time, it was reported that Tsemakh refused the deal with the investigation. According to the former chief prosecutor of Ukraine Lutsenko, he advised the Netherlands to convict Zemakh in absentia, as well as four other suspects.
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    1. +12
      11 September 2019 18: 21
      In fact, for this you can use Skype. Why drag a person to a foreign land, cause inconvenience? Call him and he, in the presence of his lawyer and translator, will answer. Which ones he considers necessary.
      1. +9
        11 September 2019 18: 28
        Quote: Izotovp
        In fact, for this you can use Skype.

        well, skype interrogation is somehow not comme il faut, but their followers may come to Russia, let them talk. They need to be promoted, otherwise their statement
        ... Russia's insistent demand to include Tsemakh on the exchange lists suggests that "Moscow admits its guilt in the deaths of Boeing passengers."
        again "highley like" what that.
        1. +8
          11 September 2019 18: 34
          Quote: Pedrodepackes
          Quote: Izotovp
          In fact, for this you can use Skype.

          well, skype interrogation is somehow not comme il faut, but their followers may come to Russia, let them talk. They need to be promoted, otherwise their statement
          ... Russia's insistent demand to include Tsemakh on the exchange lists suggests that "Moscow admits its guilt in the deaths of Boeing passengers."
          again "highley like" what that.

          No matter what Russia does, it will still be their fault.
          1. They took the poor fellow to themselves - Russia is to blame. Shelters the culprit.
          2. If they would give it to the crones, it means hiding the real culprit.

          Is it really so hard to understand that JIT is only interested in one thing - exactly how Russia shot down the unfortunate plane. No other information interests them.
          1. +12
            11 September 2019 19: 10
            Why is it that the 34-year-old American songwriter Katy Peary - the American goodwill ambassador to the UN needs the most ?!
            Why did she herself - an American - suddenly become a member of the European Parliament from the Netherlands? From what income and on what occasion?

            Is she an American agent of influence in the heart of Europe in favor of the United States?
            It seems that way!
            She apparently wants to cover up the traces of the involvement of US intelligence in Ukraine on the disaster MN-17? It seems that way too.
            In any case, I have just such an impression.
            1. +5
              11 September 2019 21: 56
              Quote: Tatiana
              Why is it that the 34-year-old American songwriter Katy Peary - the American goodwill ambassador to the UN needs the most ?!
              Why did she herself - an American - suddenly become a member of the European Parliament from the Netherlands? From what income and on what occasion?

              Is she an American agent of influence in the heart of Europe in favor of the United States?
              It seems that way!
              She apparently wants to cover up the traces of the involvement of US intelligence in Ukraine on the disaster MN-17? It seems that way too.
              In any case, I have just such an impression.

              what a nightmare .. having the Internet carry this ...
              Katy Piri is a Dutch politician of Hungarian descent and a member of the European Parliament from the Netherlands since July 2014. She is a member of the Labor Party, a member of the Progressive Alliance of Socialists and Democrats.
              Born: April 8, 1979 (age 40), Zelldemölk, Hungary

              Katy Perry is not only a singer, but also UNISEF Ambassador
              The main focus of work Katie chose to help needy children and adolescents of the Third World, living in poverty, subjected to violence.

              so set aside the panic. These are two different people.
              1. +7
                11 September 2019 22: 13
                Quote: Antares
                What a nightmare ... having the Internet carry this ... Katy Piri is a Dutch politician of Hungarian descent and a member of the European Parliament from the Netherlands since July 2014. She is a member of the Labor Party, a member of the Progressive Alliance of Socialists and Democrats. Born: April 8, 1979 (age 40), Zelldemölk, Hungary

                Thank you, Antares, for correcting my erroneous information! hi

                And what I found on the Internet littered with information, I took advantage of that! And even she was surprised! laughing
                Well, sometimes it happens. sad I did not pay attention to the text in a foreign language.

                I apologize to everyone for my mistake! crying I won’t be like that anymore. Yes
                1. +6
                  11 September 2019 22: 24
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Thank you Antares

                  not at all. It happens.
        2. +1
          11 September 2019 18: 37
          Quote: Pedrodepackes
          but their followers may come to Russia,

          What for? We are already to blame. Gay European "justice" decided so. And although you don't take the muzzle out of everything they falsified there, they have only one conclusion.
          Start creaking, prolonged Boeing
          1. 0
            11 September 2019 19: 06
            And then there were minus signers laughing
            While "two of the casket" voice give me that I said not so laughing
            Or grind your teeth under the covers? laughing
            1. +5
              11 September 2019 20: 46
              Quote: Lipchanin
              While "two of the casket" voice give me that I said not so

              when patriots and liberals poke all your cons, can you look inside yourself?
              your ALL posts are saturated with insanity and bright megatrol intonation - did I speak clearly?
              although what am I crucifying you here? you are solely for the pluses and stars your registration on June 2 of this year and you were already a lieutenant colonel .... this says everything)) ... good luck adherent ...
        3. 0
          11 September 2019 19: 00
          but their followers may come to Russia,

          Zemakh in the DPR lives, and go there, if necessary
        4. +7
          11 September 2019 22: 35
          An international organization is investigating. Russia is interested in the course of the investigation, which has been repeatedly stated at the highest level.
          Let them make a request, come and interrogate. It is one thing to interrogate an arrested person and being in a cell when confessions can be obtained in one way or another. Moreover, remember how he got into this camera. And if it doesn’t work, then there are examples. An elderly man of the type could not stand the burden of responsibility and died, like Slobodan Milosevic in The Hague.
        5. +1
          12 September 2019 07: 08
          They have no reason to come to Russia. Here they can’t force them to testify and distort what they hear.
      2. +2
        11 September 2019 19: 10
        Quote: Izotovp
        In fact, for this you can use Skype. Why drag a person to a foreign land, cause inconvenience? Call him and he, in the presence of his lawyer and translator, will answer. Which ones he considers necessary.

        ett is some kind of blonde stoned, in Russia there are no problems with his interrogation, moreover, I think even a public interrogation would be welcome
        1. +1
          11 September 2019 21: 58
          Quote: poquello
          ett some blonde stoned

          brunette to be more precise. But her appearance is not attractive.
          1. +1
            12 September 2019 00: 58
            Quote: Antares
            Quote: poquello
            ett some blonde stoned

            brunette to be more precise. But her appearance is not attractive.

            I didn’t talk about her hair color
        2. +6
          11 September 2019 22: 39
          there are no problems with his interrogation in Russia,

          With what a fright to them such a handout? A certificate from the city committee, trade union committee, psychiatric clinic for all investigators and judges, a certificate of vaccination of investigators, and most importantly - investigation materials to establish the validity and validity of their claims by our judges. And so yes, we wholeheartedly help, but the Netherlands does not give such an opportunity. And they say - they still have the Inquisition, witches harness. Now let them prove that they don’t burn and - we ask for mercy. If Zemakh himself agrees, and does not send mother.
          And in my opinion, in vain our defense stuck. It is necessary to attack, accuse of fraud, missing important evidence and witnesses. Moreover, since we have little with the media there, we are launching a large caliber from the Minister of Foreign Affairs and the President. Already their statements will not be missed and silent.
          1. 0
            12 September 2019 06: 42
            Ten pluses!
          2. 0
            12 September 2019 07: 16
            Quote: dauria
            Moreover, since we have little with the media there, we are launching a large caliber from the Minister of Foreign Affairs and the President. Already their statements will not be missed and silent.

            I am glad for your optimism, but their answers are predictable, either excuses or cosmic silence, and all the Foreign Ministry's speeches remain at the level of the same Foreign Ministries, since you are absolutely right in saying that
            Quote: dauria
            we have weak with the media there

            In general, our Foreign Ministry makes statements for each of their crazy "discovery"
      3. +5
        11 September 2019 19: 46
        Quote: Izotovp
        In fact, for this you can use Skype. Why drag a person to a foreign land, cause inconvenience?

        And so that if something goes wrong, hide the ends in the water - to arrange myocardial infarction. As with Milosevic.
      4. +2
        11 September 2019 19: 55
        Quote: Izotovp
        In fact, for this you can use Skype. Why drag a person to a foreign land, cause inconvenience? Call him and he, in the presence of his lawyer and translator, will answer. Which ones he considers necessary.

        In this case, these so-called. the investigators will say that behind him, out of sight of the webcam, was a KGB / FSB / GRU / NKVD officer with a revolver of the "Nagan" type and was explaining how to answer questions. And to come and ask questions ourselves, they have little guts. A very big bummer can happen if something doesn't go according to the Western scenario.
      5. +3
        11 September 2019 21: 09
        Quote: Izotovp
        In fact, for this you can use Skype.

        Actually, they can send their investigators to Russia and then they can interrogate him in our IC, in the presence of our investigators. But the "Dutch" need it? They need a scandal
        1. +1
          11 September 2019 21: 55
          What prevented the Dutch from interrogating him in Kiev ??
    2. +1
      11 September 2019 18: 26
      Quote: Izotovp
      In fact, for this you can use Skype. Why drag a person to a foreign land, cause inconvenience? Call him and he, in the presence of his lawyer and translator, will answer. Which ones he considers necessary.

      that's the trick, this method doesn’t suit them. The different delicate interrogation methods obviously become impossible. In this they saw their loss to the TC, now it becomes impossible to force a person to confess to what he did not.
    3. +2
      11 September 2019 18: 27
      Stop smoking ... am
      1. +2
        11 September 2019 18: 31
        they are no longer able to ...
        1. 0
          11 September 2019 18: 54
          Quote: novel xnumx
          they are no longer able to ...

          Shit to pour strength is not necessary. It pours and pours
          Hey Ya hi
          1. 0
            11 September 2019 18: 58
            hi hi the Dutch - they are ...
            1. -1
              11 September 2019 19: 12
              Well so it is necessary to give a debt
              1. 0
                11 September 2019 19: 19
                Is it really such an organism ?!
                1. +2
                  11 September 2019 19: 46
                  With Ukraine, you can never understand whether the character is a troll, or he seriously thinks so. smile
              2. -1
                11 September 2019 22: 01
                Quote: Lipchanin
                Well so it is necessary to give a debt

                I saw a lot cooler reminders. And the PACE vote (the Dutch voted for the Russian Federation) and a reminder of the position of Holland in Ukraine (association)
                so we have something to remind the Dutch for their demands and requests. wassat
                the life of OUR citizens was at stake. Not them. We did this.
                According to Boeing, there is the life of their citizens (most of all the Dutch). Their move to do as they see fit.
      2. +2
        11 September 2019 18: 33
        Quote: Balu
        Stop smoking ... am

        Not those who smoke ... You need to arrest and interrogate Valtsman with an addiction (after letting him smoke first)))) ..
        I feel they’ll soak Petya soon, but he was warned that the last one would be in this fraud with the Outskirts.
        1. 0
          11 September 2019 18: 52
          Quote: Kontrik
          .It is necessary to arrest and interrogate Valtsman

          Yes, who will allow
          He is "Monument"
          It was not for interrogations that he was put in prison by Russia as an enemy
    4. -5
      11 September 2019 18: 30
      He probably would have been better off staying in Ukraine, or going to The Hague, for he would soon accidentally die, or be missing. Ukraine, by the way, traded it for its own people, although many in the West were against it, but Israel is still far away, they would have released Bin Laden in exchange for their own.
      1. +2
        11 September 2019 19: 00
        Quote: Karaul14
        He probably would have been better off staying in Ukraine, or going to The Hague, for he would soon accidentally die, or be missing. Ukraine, by the way, traded it for its own people, although many in the West were against it, but Israel is still far away, they would have released Bin Laden in exchange for their own.

        If this does not happen, do you acknowledge that you are a dumbbell and Russophobe?
        According to your logic, all the "accused" of this pseudotribunal should fear for their lives, so let's see how things turn out.
    5. +6
      11 September 2019 18: 30
      Yes, they would walk in the forest!
      For five years they cannot fasten Russia to the MH-17. And the money is paid!
      Well, an owl does not stretch to the globe!
    6. +4
      11 September 2019 18: 30
      In the uk ukrain look for those who shot down the Malaysian Boeing.
    7. 0
      11 September 2019 18: 31
      Insanity is progressing
      "We'll stab you, but it won't hurt."
      Here's how you can conduct a dialogue with them? request
    8. +5
      11 September 2019 18: 37
      for Euro-people, the ideal option now is to kill V. Zemakh and raise a howl that Russia has got rid of a valuable witness. I want to believe that this issue is under the control of the FSB
    9. +11
      11 September 2019 18: 40
      Here it is just right for our Investigative Committee to start a Case on this whole gang of "international investigators". And demand their extradition.
      And then they were investigated to the extent that
      "Moscow admits its guilt in the death of Boeing passengers
    10. -17
      11 September 2019 18: 41
      From an international point of view, Ukraine has obligations providing for full cooperation in attempts to find those responsible for the downed MH17 aircraft. And having given one of the suspects to Moscow, Ukraine thereby did not keep its promise
      From an international point of view, the Netherlands has obligations that provide for full cooperation with Ukraine in the framework of integration with the EU in attempts to punish those responsible for violating the guarantees of the territorial integrity of Ukraine in accordance with an international agreement. Holland, lying every time under Putin, showed that she was not cooperating with Ukraine on the annexation of Crimea and the occupation of Donbas by Russia.
      Reasonably, in the matter of rescuing its hostages from Russian captivity, Ukraine sees reasons to defend only its interests without regard to Holland.

      But Russia can be trampled on from Interpol, it is enough for one bureaucrat to put on the table of another bureaucrat a request for the extradition of a suspect.

      It will be interesting to look at this circus. smile
      1. -1
        11 September 2019 22: 05
        Quote: saknivukne
        From an international point of view, the Netherlands has obligations

        there are disagreements - and support at the Boeing Tribunal and the Minsk process directly talking about the exchange.
        They chose our own, not strangers. It's funny that the issuance is more of a curtsey to the Russian Federation than to the EU .. despite the withered "puppetness from the EU"
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    11. +1
      11 September 2019 18: 44
      What is the problem? Let the followers come and interrogate in the presence of lawyers if they need it! A manger to a cow will not be built!
    12. +3
      11 September 2019 18: 47
      Interesting. How many trillions of hryvnias was paid by an ordinary militia (AT THIS MOMENT) of the Tsemakh of the air traffic controller of the Dnepropetrovsk air hub Anna Petrenko, who disappeared at night, for accurately putting the Boeing on course for his AK-47 shots?
      And where did the SBU-CIA share this Anna Petrenko.
      And where are the NASA images of all this crime? Indeed, even flies, without NASA's aerospace fixation, do not spoil the atmosphere of the Earth in the world. Everything is fixed.
      1. 0
        11 September 2019 22: 16
        Quote: Olya Tsako
        Anne Petrenko, for accurately bringing Boeing to the course

        poor Anya ... what a sadist, considering that she was duplicated by two more recording devices




        Further, the Dnieper will negotiate with Rostov and Singapore flights. But the Boeing is already lying on the ground.
        Quote: Olya Tsako
        And where did the SBU-CIA share this Anna Petrenko.

        probably where Russian TV got through to her.
    13. +2
      11 September 2019 18: 48
      Oh, how, for five years they so seriously investigated everything, even some surnames of the culprits were named, and all this time the main culprit didn’t live nearby calmly!
      And now all of a sudden the light on it came together!
      A new reason to blame Russia, we must again whine about it on international trebunks, start a company in the media and oh, I almost forgot, we need to impose sanctions!))
    14. -2
      11 September 2019 18: 49
      These did not even go as it should! They sho sho another in the suit will only form.
      1. 0
        11 September 2019 19: 07
        Greetings! hi they all stoned there ...
        1. 0
          11 September 2019 19: 39
          Unfortunately, some people smoke for a company with them. And from the most "friendly" to us all!
          1. 0
            11 September 2019 20: 04
            It happens, and not for the first time ...
    15. 0
      11 September 2019 19: 01
      Before blaming someone for something, you need to provide the world community with ample evidence, and not pick your nose and squeal like a beaten whore.
      1. 0
        11 September 2019 19: 06
        So it’s like that, only who is the world community ..., the world community is interested in gadgets and new toys, and the rest is decided in a narrow circle.
    16. 0
      11 September 2019 19: 04
      “From an international point of view, Ukraine has obligations providing for comprehensive cooperation in attempts to find those responsible for the downed MH17 aircraft. And having given one of the suspects to Moscow, Ukraine thereby did not keep its promise


      So a promise or commitment?
    17. 0
      11 September 2019 19: 05
      Before the exchange, there was a witness, after which he became a suspect. Interesting logic.
    18. +1
      11 September 2019 19: 18
      These Dutch, apparently bloodthirsty, are staining in their Hague in the prisons of all those who are numb. And what did Peter I find in them? Perhaps the rest of the Europeans were even worse at that time.
      1. +1
        11 September 2019 19: 33
        Under Peter 1, Mazepa walked in the Chmyra, the British in America genocide the local Indians, the CIA, still, did not mentor the SBU, NASA did not have an archive of UkroBUK tricks.
        Peter felt better.
      2. -1
        11 September 2019 22: 22
        Quote: 1536
        And what did Peter I find in them?

        Shipbuilding. Exchange, weapons. At that time, the leading school of shipbuilding. Yes, and in social life, a model. Worked honestly
        Quote: 1536
        Perhaps the rest of the Europeans were even worse at that time.

        I didn’t like it in Riga, in Germany too (although I shot well), but I noticed the order
        But in Holland he was the best. He even fell in love with simple Dutch sailor clothes.
        He worked at the shipyard, built ships, lived for his innkeepers, walked around.
      3. -2
        12 September 2019 10: 17
        Quote: 1536
        And what did Peter I find in them?

        Don’t disgrace dude. Since P1, all Russian naval brackets in Dutch have been pronounced.
    19. 0
      11 September 2019 19: 28
      Condemn Zemach in absentia? On the basis of which, what facts were presented to prove his guilt, again on the basis of highly likely
    20. 0
      11 September 2019 19: 30
      But who in general is interested in any announcements of the Netherlands? Anyway, bourgeois?
    21. 0
      11 September 2019 19: 31
      Wonderful things! So Scrooge became an accomplice in the death of a Boeing. When to expect from the Dutch the announcement of the Ukrainian guarantor wanted? crying
    22. 0
      11 September 2019 19: 44
      And what did Tzemakh do that they consider him a suspect?
    23. +4
      11 September 2019 20: 06
      Now, the Dutch investigators have turned out that 5 people, more than half of whom not only do not know each other, but have never met, were shot down by an organized group of strangers from an allegedly Russian air defense system, modifications of which the civilian army had never been armed with in the region plane. And the most sophisticated and barbaric way - the Ukrainian missile. Logic, however!
      The investigation is conducted by Dutch Koloboks ...
      1. +1
        11 September 2019 23: 02
        Drugs must be banned. Apparently! Or everyone will be "blunt" like "Dutch investigators".
    24. 0
      11 September 2019 20: 09
      Top cynicism and neglect of conventional logic.
      Who is this for?
    25. +1
      11 September 2019 20: 12
      Clowning sickened to gain momentum ... Where is the dispatcher who led the Boeing? Is their bean a slightly lost woman?
    26. +1
      11 September 2019 20: 35
      The decision to include Tsemakh on the exchange lists "became extremely painful for the Netherlands"

      God forbid, not the last, a disease ... I would put on a clothespin for Russophobia at the X-5 retail group. This is "Pyaterochka", "Crossroads" and something else there. Prohibiting the withdrawal of profits abroad. Well, so that objectivity dawns ...
    27. +2
      11 September 2019 20: 55
      Quote: Tatiana
      Why is it 34-year-old American songwriter Katy Peary ...

      Singer Katy Perry and member of the European Parliament Katy Piri these are completely different women. hi
      1. 0
        11 September 2019 21: 01
        Quote: thinker
        Quote: Tatiana
        Why is it 34-year-old American songwriter Katy Peary ...

        Singer Katy Perry and member of the European Parliament Katy Piri these are completely different women. hi

        Oh, how many wonderful discoveries we have ... laughing
      2. +3
        11 September 2019 21: 52
        Quote: thinker
        these are completely different women

        And Glory Kapaeses is not a man at all belay

        Sorry, inspired request
    28. +1
      11 September 2019 22: 58
      "There is no issue from Don." In the DPR, questions arose about "kidnapping." "Dutch stings" did not recognize us, they are "monopenis impersonal" to us. Russia made an act of "goodwill" - it returned the "illegally detained person" to his homeland. Thanks. Tea, "the territory of the DPR, maybe any" netherlands "will be, and others like them.
    29. +1
      12 September 2019 03: 21
      Prostitutes let their color-seekers interrogate theirs !!!!
    30. +1
      12 September 2019 03: 21
      Prostitutes let their color-seekers interrogate theirs !!!!
    31. 0
      12 September 2019 06: 50
      Holland announced ...
      So who stops paper pieces with announcements! Holland!
    32. -1
      12 September 2019 10: 06
      “From an international point of view Ukraine has obligationsfull cooperation in an attempt to find those responsible for the downed MH17. And having given one of the suspects to Moscow, Ukraine thereby did not keep its promise

      It is obvious that the current Ukrainian government is more adequate and is afraid to manipulate "evidence" on this terrorist attack. After all, someone will still answer for everything ... and the card lays down so that it is not a fact that it will be Russia, Tsemakh, or already "convicted" in absentia ... Somehow Zelensky does not want to end up in the same trash heap with Parashenko, Parubiy and Bloody pastor ... Zelensky is clean, he has money and will multiply even without this rotten story ... why should he? But for those who have already been covered up - there is only one way ... either to the block, or to lie and blame everyone (spraying "evidence") to the end ... the only question is whose END
    33. 0
      12 September 2019 15: 58
      “Guilty” has already been appointed. And everything else is not so important.
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