In Zelenodolsk laid the next RTO project 22800 "Karakurt"

At the Zelenodolsk shipyard in Tatarstan, the ceremony of laying the small rocket ship (MRK) of the 22800 Karakurt project took place. This was reported by the press service of the Ministry of Defense.

first serial RTO Sovetsk (former Typhoon)

The fifth serial ship of this project, laid today in Zelenodolsk, was called the Typhoon. Previously, it belonged to the first serial RTOs built on Pella, but later renamed Sovetsk. This is the last ship of this series, laid down at Zelenodolsk Shipyard. Construction of RTOs, with a high probability, will be carried out at the Zaliv plant in Kerch.

According to the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy Nikolai Evmenov, who personally arrived at the launch ceremony of the RTOs, it is planned to complete a series of 18 ships of the 22800 project by the 2026 year, after which construction of ships of a larger displacement will begin.

Small rocket ships of the 22800 project (cipher "Karakurt") - the Russian series of multi-purpose rocket and artillery ships of the near-sea zone (small corvettes). They are designed to conduct combat operations in the near-sea zone and participate in the fulfillment of tasks in peacetime and wartime, independently and as part of ship groups.

Main characteristics: length - 67 meters, width - 11 meters, draft - 4 meters, displacement - about 800 tons, cruising range - up to 2500 miles, autonomy - 15 days. The main armament is one PU UKKS (universal ship complex) 3С14 RK Caliber, one 76-mm gun mount AK-176МA, two 30-mm gun guns AK-630М or CIRC missile-M, two 14.5-mm machine guns MTPU.

Comments

[Nycomed]

They will transfer production to Crimea, but in Zelenodolsk what will they do?

[Greg Miller]

They will privatize, loot and close ... Except for small boats in Zelenodolsk nothing will work ...

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Quote: Greg Miller

Privatize, loot and close ...

“Zelenodolsk plant named after A.M. Gorky ”in private ownership. In March 2019, Zelenodolsk plant them. Gorky came under US sanctions - it is painfully noticeable that the enterprise is building warships. Zelenodol'sk residents were denied import engines for a long time, so they were de jure sanctioned, and they became de facto. Zelenodolsk remains the No. 1 shipyard of Russia in terms of the number of orders and draws: anti-sabotage boats of the Grachonok project, small missile ships of the 21631 Buyan-M project, patrol ships of the 22100 Ocean project, patrol ships of the 22160 project were built and are being built there. MRK of the Karakurt project, floating dock of the 22570 project “Apartment”, cable vessels of the 15310 project.

[Nycomed]

"“Zelenodolsk plant named after A.M. Gorky ”in private ownership."
It is good to have a privately owned plant that sits tightly on the state. orders.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

JSC Zelenodolsk Plant named after Gorky ”has the following owners 63,1% of the enterprise belongs to the holding company Ak Bars (the share of the Republic of Tatarstan in which is 42,4%), 25% to the Ministry of Land of the Republic of Tatarstan, 11,9% to Rosimushchestvo. "Interfax" with reference to the decree of the President of the Russian Federation reported that Tatarstan will be transferred to the federal ownership of 11,9% of the shares of Zelenodolsk shipyard named after Gorky. The Government of the Russian Federation was instructed to ensure the transfer of shares within 18 months. In the 2011 – 2018 years, a large-scale modernization was carried out at the Zelenodolsk plant, for which the enterprise was included in the federal target program 60 at 40: 60% - state money, 40% - enterprise funds. In general, it should be noted the ability of the plant to them. In difficult times, Gorky would provide himself with an uninterrupted supply of orders from the Russian Ministry of Defense and the FSB, which probably largely depends on lobbying efforts by the government of the Republic of Tatarstan.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Nycomed

Good to own a privately owned factory

Of course, but for you it's like a bone in the throat?

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

it’s painfully noticeable the company is building warships

[musorg]

And it builds much faster.

[loki565]

No, in Crimea they will build UDC

[Piramidon]

Quote: loki565

No, in Crimea they will build UDC

One does not hurt the other.

[petrol cutter]

They have already transferred to the Crimea ... We built three ships under the signboard * Intro Pella *. Then something went wrong. (Apparently they brought little money, or brought enough, but not there) ... Damn he knows. And * Pella * leaves the territory * NW Sea *.
Therefore, I’m calm for Zelenodolsk, and for our factory ...
Although in the foreseeable future there are no engines for either them or us. Something like that ... Field reports.

[Pavel57]

These ships were essentially an opportunity to bypass the DRMSD. I could be wrong, but all launches were on ground targets. Is it possible to shoot at sea targets?

[loki565]

DRMSD is gone, conventional CDs can now be put on land

[novel66]

with target designation for calibers - why not?

[Pavel57]

With anti-ship target designation, ambiguity. And so a universal platform with universal PU.

[asv363]

The caliber is available in the RCC version. Another question is that he has a range of damage from 375 km to 500 km according to various sources.

[alexmach]

I could be wrong, but all launches were on ground targets.

What other launches? not a single such ship in the Navy yet.

[Pavel57]

Mytishchi in the ranks since 2018. Upon delivery, launches are conducted, the question is with which missiles? Well, the analogue of 21631 Buyan-M shot a lot, but not anti-ship missiles.

[alexmach]

And indeed, more than half a year ago.
And pay attention, with all the advertised multifunctionality of the Callibers, there has not yet been any data on firing any missiles except "on the ground". Here, in addition, there is some strange news about the development of an anti-submarine missile system ... And what about the callibra anti-submarine missile?

[Pavel57]

The concept of such an RTO is understandable only with missiles for ground targets. In other cases, missile capabilities will be limited by a missile defense system.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: alexmach

And what about the anti-submarine caliber caliber?

The package is more designed to destroy torpedoes, and the new system to destroy submarines

[alexmach]

It would seem that what does the package have to do with it?

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: alexmach

It would seem that what does the package have to do with it?

what package? ... what is a package? ... .91Р1 or 91РТ2 did not learn to destroy their goals well, that's why I wrote about the NK Package

[alexmach]

The package is more designed to destroy torpedoes

what package? ... what is a package?

Well, probably polyethylene, you read your own comments, no?

91P1 or 91PT2 did not learn to destroy their goals well,

This information is interesting from where? I only know that nothing is known about their tests or practical firing, as well as about RCC calliber.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: alexmach

I only know

Are you the last source of truth?

[alexmach]

If you have something to say in essence - tell me, you don’t need to write nonsense.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: alexmach

say in essence

this is essentially - if you are not in the know, it does not mean that this is true! they didn’t report to you, then this is not? I wrote to you that I know this is enough!

[alexmach]

I wrote to you that I know this is enough!

Oh, so that’s who we are true in the last istan turns out to be.
Why are you writing this useless nonsense which is already a message in a row?

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: alexmach

Why are you writing this useless nonsense which is already a message in a row?

likened you exclusively

[Thrifty]

Maybe not the last, but the last ship, at the moment? ?

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: Thrifty

Maybe not the last, but the last ship, at the moment? ?

The production of engines for the Karakurt MRK project 22800 has been established, so that the production restrictions for serial production have been removed. So the last ship at the moment.

On August 29, the St. Petersburg manufacturer of high-speed diesel engines Zvezda shipped a diesel engine of the dimension CHN16 / 17 M-507D to the Pella plant. The delivery includes two 56-cylinder compartments, a final drive, a spare parts kit and a control system.

This is the third, last engine delivered to Pella under the contract for manning the main power plant of the next serial small missile ship (RTO) of project 22800 Karakurt, the Zvezda report says. Taking into account previously shipped products, Zvezda fully complied with the conditions of this order, which is important for the enterprise, say the engine builders.

http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/123589/

[alexmach]

Maybe not the last, but the last ship, at the moment? ?

All polls recorded in sappers?

[KVU-NSVD]

An amateurish thought came. And why not make a small anti-submarine based on a well-developed project - remove the Caliber and, in their place, the GAS equipment and the Package. Leave the Shell and gun mount. If there is not enough space, then AU can also be sacrificed - for self-defense it is also possible to beat off the carapace from its threshers. What do you say, specialists, is there even a grain of common sense? Again, there the helicopter can be based, if I'm not mistaken ...

[shark]

In the USSR Navy, the IPCs enjoyed well-deserved success. Why not.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

In the 1963th Commander-in-Chief of the Navy of the USSR, Sergei Gorshkov instructed to develop an IPC to ensure access to the ocean of atomic submarines, to protect naval bases and formations of attack ships and convoys of vessels in coastal areas. TsKB-340 was appointed responsible (now it is Zelenodolsk Design Bureau - ZPKB OJSC), and two years later it issued the 1124 Albatros project. The fleet received the first ship from the Red Metalworker (now JSC Gorky Zelenodolsk Plant) in 1967. In 1982, they began to build a modernized version of the “Albatross” - 1124М.
In total, they built the 37 MPK of the 1124 project (18 - in Zelenodolsk) and 32 - 1124М (13 - in Zelenodolsk). In 1965 – 1993, 30 – 50 percent of the planned utilization of the enterprise was the construction of Albatrosov.

[urik62]

Where did you see the specialists here?

[Destiny]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

remove gauges

Uriapatriyots entot push the caliber into everything unapproachable, and now you are like a sickle to the reproductive organs that they don’t have, you don’t need to change anything there, everything is normal and the best enemy of the good.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

came amateurish thought. And why not make a small anti-submarine based on a well-developed project - remove the Caliber and, in their place, the GAS equipment and the Package.

On the website of the Almaz TsMKB there were computer images and a description of the new development of this design bureau - the small anti-submarine ship (IPC) of the 23420 project.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

One more option can be found in the leaflet of the Almaz TsMKB: the two four-container launchers of the Package-E / NK complex are on-board in front of the superstructure, and RPK-8E are in its bow.

[alexmach]

Again, there the helicopter can be based, if I'm not mistaken ...

And even two. But unfortunately only toys.

[Pavel57]

It seems there is a place under the Waterfall.

[alexmach]

It seems there is a place under the Waterfall.

Where from? Is a waterfall a rocket torpedo from a 533 mm torpedo tube? Who's not there?
It’s better to shoot something from this very UKKS. But it’s one thing to shoot, another thing is where to get target designation. If it is from anti-submarine aircraft, then the aircraft itself can carry the means of combating submarines.
IMHO the ship is not very needed at all. It would be better if at least 20380 more were built.

[Dart2027]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

remove Gauges and in their place - GAS equipment and Package

The NK-package is more likely not a strike, but a defensive weapon that can intercept enemy torpedoes, but attacking a 324 mm is already difficult. But the Caliber with its missile-torpedoes 91Р1 (91РЭ1) and 91РТ2 (91РТЭ2) may well work as an anti-submarine strike system.

[cobalt]

Yes, I thought about the same thing after reading the article, just place the package to put 2 normal 324 mm torpedo tubes,

[seregin-s1]

"We are working on project 21631M2. This is about the same small missile ship, but with a larger displacement and greater firepower. I hope that in 3-4 years we will receive this project for the plant," - Interfax quotes the statement of Karpov, the general director of the enterprise.

[Protos]

Quote: Petrol cutter

They have already transferred to the Crimea ... We built three ships under the signboard * Intro Pella *. Then something went wrong. (Apparently they brought little money, or brought enough, but not there) ... Damn he knows. And * Pella * leaves the territory * NW Sea *.
Therefore, I’m calm for Zelenodolsk, and for our factory ...
Although in the foreseeable future there are no engines for either them or us. Something like that ... Field reports.

These are not summaries, these are fairy tales from the fields
And the reality is this:
"In May last year, by the decision of Vladimir Putin, More became part of the state corporation Rostec, and already in 2019 the enterprise should be corporatized. Subsequently, the shares of the plant are planned to be transferred to trust management of Rostec's subsidiary, JSC Concern Kalashnikov. "The Pella shipyard does not appear in official statements about the future of Morya." Now it is being decided how and how to load the plant. Previously, Morya made hydrofoil vessels of the Vostok and Kometa types. Similar products by Kalashnikov makes at his Rybinsk shipyard "Vympel" and, most likely, will transfer these competencies to the "Sea" "

[Evil 55]

There would be more such "spiders" in the near sea zone ..

[Pavel57]

Who will bring such spiders to attack the enemy squadron? Asks for a leader who sees the enemy.