Criminally punishable patriotism, or the New Iron Curtain

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Against the general background, one event somehow modestly took place, which could very well become a brick in the new wall of the “iron curtain” of the future. Everything goes to that, but let's take it in order.

3 September 2019 of the year at the airport in Naples, local police detained the top manager of United Engine Corporation Alexander Korshunov.



Criminally punishable patriotism, or the New Iron Curtain


The reason for the arrest was an arrest warrant issued in the United States. It is clear that the Italians promptly carried out the “face!” Command and detained Korshunov.

In principle, he is to blame. History trite, as I do not know what.

Firstly, since February 2014, a list of various anti-Russian sanctions has been in force, which is annually updated and supplemented. Both the USA and their satellites.

Secondly, do not forget that there are still prohibitive lists against both specific people and government officials, positions and companies.

Therefore, the Italian police acted quite normally at the request of their ... let's call them "general partners." Naturally, an international arrest warrant was also valid in Italy without the slightest doubt.

And what does the USA charge with Korshunov?

Economic espionage. Across the ocean, it is believed that during the period from 2009 to 2017, Korshunov was engaged in the theft of intellectual property from General Electric. The thefts concerned information on the company's developments, which later could supposedly be used in the construction of the Russian PD-14 engine.

Yes, the very one that should bring to the world stage MS-21.

As it becomes clear, engineer Korshunov himself has absolutely nothing to do with it. And all these frauds and tricks are directed not so much against the cunning spy manager as against Rostec.

Strange, but, in general, the Americans so stubbornly puffed out their cheeks, telling how they are afraid of no one, and Rostec can be taken seriously only by elementary school students.

And suddenly such a turn ...

Apparently, according to US economic intelligence, the engine really came out successful. And MS-21 can become a real competitor in the market. This means that the competitor must be “flunked” at the taxi, not allowing takeoff.

And in such games, the fate of some kind of manager is worth very little.

When Korshunov arrives in the United States (namely, “when”, and not “if”), then, as we already know from the experience of not only our compatriot, it will smell like a solid term. But again I emphasize that this is not the saddest thing.

I think that the United States will completely begin to block both PD-14 and MS-21 on the basis of copyright infringement, unlicensed copying, theft of documents and even the hell knows what. But they will begin.

The main task will be to block the issuance of international certification of both the engine and the aircraft. So what is next? And then everything is simple. MS-21 will remain on the ground, or it will be assigned the role of a regional aircraft, unable to fly beyond Russia.

So, goodbye to the international market, goodbye to the opportunity to recoup the money invested and so on.

Although the Russian air transportation market is a very, very fatty piece, if properly prepared. It would be a desire. But cunning kids from Boeing and Airbus can reach here too.

But the point is not even how it is customary in the USA to deal with competitors or in what way profit is made. Everything here is not very beautiful, just fewer opportunities. Although, as you see, I doubt that in the USA they will ban plastic containers for beer in order to compensate for the financial losses to the “producer” of aluminum. They have not yet grown up to this.

Leave the economic side of what is happening and take on the human side.

In our country, such a thing as discussion of lists has been going on for a long time. No, not those who may fall under direct or indirect sanctions of the Americans and their satellites. And for those who live in Europe and the USA, children and relatives study and work.

And this list will be more than the first.

The most interesting thing is that the "patriots" do not comment on these facts, they simply accuse the opposition of excessive activity.

The pro-government media are actively discussing the topic that, they say, many returned to Russia and thereby seem to have pulled their relatives in power out of attack.

Check these statements is simply unrealistic, you understand. But here the question is a bit different.

How really “vulnerable” are these very Russian elites organizing their offspring and relatives abroad? And they themselves are quite normally acquiring real estate in other countries.

Nobody forces a government official to buy a house in Spain, right? Or an apartment in London? And put your child in it? Yes, it is unlikely that someone signs the contracts with blood and sends relatives to host Germany as hostages?

Or is this still the case?

Well, how else can it be explained that among the Orthodox and very seriously demonstrating patriotism and love for Russia, relatives quite often live in countries that introduce new and new sanctions against the beloved Russia?

Of course, it is clear that, in the opinion of such "patriots", of whom, unfortunately, the government and the State Duma are composed, the so-called normal life is possible where it is acceptable, but not in Russia. Therefore, Europe and other regions are considered by the "patriots" as a kind of sleeping area. But in Russia, you can, let's just say, just work. For the good of the family and so on.

Cosmopolitans? People of the world? Quite a yes.

And, actually, what to demand from them? Rejection of a beautiful European life? In exchange for the Russian? Well, excuse me, this mom and dad have some kind of obligations to the country as a whole or the president in particular.

And in particular, each of these ... Well, they are free people and simply exercise their right to live as they please and wherever they want. And the rest can go through the forest and field, if they do not understand the difference between Monaco and Sochi, the Cote d'Azur and the South Coast.

To each, as they say, his own. And in order to be convinced of this, it’s enough just to familiarize yourself with the blogs and all kinds of “... grams” of these representatives of the “golden youth”.

But this case with Korshunov shows quite clearly that times have changed a bit. And tomorrow they will be able to arrest not only because you supposedly got something there in favor of your country (this is at least an honorable thing), but because you just have someone sitting somewhere well. In terms of position, of course.



And three times it’s worth now to think so much of a civil servant loving abroad about the fact that a visit to the Cote d'Azur or there to Naples (as an example) may end in a slightly different scenario. San Quentin, Guantanamo Bay and Sing Sing are other hotels.

Especially when it comes to interstate showdowns or wars of transcontinental corporations. They generally will not look at persons and surnames.

And even stutter (although some speak in a voice and do not blush) that the "state is obliged to protect" its pseudo-citizens who have fallen into such an unpleasant situation for themselves ...

Not protect. And citizens like Korshunov, working for the good of the country, will not be protected either.

More precisely, just can not do it. Because Russia is not the United States, and the United States was far from always able to send its aircraft carriers and marines to rescue. So - they will sit. Mingazov, Booth, Yaroshenko, Kuzmin are sitting? And the rest will sit.

Just because if in the USA they said: “It is necessary!”, Then I just don’t know how to break through with a crowbar.

On the other hand, what about the “2 Iron Curtain” here?

Apparently, yes. And first of all, for those who are not on the TOM list, and who should have been grabbed and planted without fail. Bortnikov on the list, so what? It was necessary to fly to the United States on business - and flew. And no one there even meowed on the topic that he should be grabbed and knitted. Not a single kitten from the NSA, the CIA, the FBI and other abbreviations.

But who is NOT listed ... Who has the opportunity to "see the world" ... No, they say, from the windows in Guantanamo you can also see the world. Well, those who have windows.

Korshunov was taken in Naples. Buta in thailand. Kuzmina in the USA. Selezneva in the Maldives. Zdorovenina in Switzerland. Ustinova in Lithuania. Panin in the USA.

As the character of one cartoon would say, "the whole world is widely represented." Hence only one conclusion: nowhere, except for countries openly friendly to Russia, you can not be sure of their own security.

And given the no work of our embassies, the lack of aircraft carriers and other things ...

It turns out such an interesting alignment: or are you a patriot working for the good of the country, and then the resorts of the Krasnodar Territory and Crimea are all yours. Well, still Turkey, probably. If you are not a patriot ...

And in this case, you can’t be sure that they won’t grab the soft parts of the body and put them on a hard bench in the courtroom.

It is worth considering that in this form the “Iron Curtain” may become a new occasion for the love of Russia and the emergence of real patriotism.

Even to the detriment of the desires of a certain part of the population of Russia to “see the world” and “to rest humanly”.

That's for sure, Europe will help us.
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  1. +14
    10 September 2019 05: 44
    Personally for me and my family the best vacation with my beloved mother-in-law, I mean it! Let her rest in peace and the Kingdom of heaven in addition!
    All her vacations in Barnaul on the South.
    During the winter holidays, I drove children, mastered skis, skates, ice slides. You can eat pine forest air with spoons. Oh, it was a little time!
    1. +12
      10 September 2019 12: 59
      Personally for me and my family the best vacation with my beloved mother-in-law, I seriously!
      During the winter holidays I drove children, mastered skis, skates, ice slides.



      But there were times when people who had at least a small touch of important state affairs, whether it was weapons, the country's security and others, could not leave the country. And it was right: nothing threatened their life and freedom, like their relatives.

      There are so many wonderful and secluded places in Russia that enough for the whole human life is more than enough. No, you have to show your belly to foreigners.

      And now the Foreign Ministry is to blame for the fact that Korshunov was taken somewhere under little white hands.
      1. +4
        10 September 2019 20: 42
        To relax in Russia, you need to be a rich person, cheaper abroad ....
    2. +1
      10 September 2019 17: 15
      Quote: andrewkor
      Personally for me and my family the best vacation with my beloved mother-in-law

      It's fine. Especially if the family agrees with you ... That's just no offense, but is there anything to compare? Have you been anywhere else?
      I support the thesis that secret bearers cannot be left, but the rest, conditionally peaceful ... cannot be prohibited. Does the experience of the USSR not teach us? They were forbidden then to collapse. Including, of course ... this is IMHO hi
  2. +19
    10 September 2019 05: 51
    That's certainly a "question of questions" .... About the vulnerability (dependence) of the families of the "elite" from the anger of the United States. The US Defense Minister quite definitely demanded that the Russian Federation behave "normally". What will the "upper floors" decide? Indeed, no one will tell the truth, and no one will ask our opinion.

    A certain "curtain" would not hurt Russia. It is immediately clear who is "ours" and who is "the unconditional adversary." In addition to useful technologies, many abominations come from behind the "curtain": infections, terrorism-radicalism, uncontrolled competitors in the labor market, infection for fields and vegetable gardens, a far-fetched way of life and thought, financial speculators, agents of influence, uncritical imports ...
    Let there be a curtain!
    1. +15
      10 September 2019 07: 48
      Quote: samarin1969
      Let there be a curtain!

      I, too, do not mind! Let there be a curtain, maybe then the "patriots" will start thinking about their own country .. Yes, something suggests that they would sooner move there with ends and give away all the state secrets ..
    2. +19
      10 September 2019 07: 51
      who are "theirs" and who are "unconditional adversaries".
      photos from Europe. where Gref gives Europeans loans at 2% to you a little. And there are many such examples. When such patriots rush into the Duma and everywhere where the smell of free money.
      1. +12
        10 September 2019 12: 44
        Quote: Gardamir
        py. where Gref gives Europeans loans at 2% to you a little. And such examples
        there are no people in Europe who will take a loan at Sberbank at 16%, no ... if everyone gives around at 3 .....
        Therefore, Sberbank gives under these pennies. Catching up with us, we have nowhere to go ....
        1. +1
          10 September 2019 18: 44
          Quote: your1970
          there are no people in Europe who will take a loan at Sberbank at 16%, no ... if everyone gives around at 3 ...

          But what does he, Sberbank, need in general in Europe? Work at home
          1. +1
            10 September 2019 18: 47
            Actually, it’s necessary, development is called. Re-credit and a bunch of goodies, it’s a bank ... albeit a bad one ...
            1. -2
              10 September 2019 20: 22
              Quote: your1970
              Re-credit and a bunch of goodies, he's a bank ...

              I think that due to this he receives loans, which he later offers us and at a much higher percentage.
              1. +1
                10 September 2019 21: 22
                Quote: Silvestr
                Quote: your1970
                Re-credit and a bunch of goodies, he's a bank ...

                I think that due to this he receives loans, which he later offers us and at a much higher percentage.
                - estessno ... he's a bank - not charity ... I don’t remember something about banks giving interest-free loans
                Even in the USSR, in the savings bank, loans were not free - I don’t remember the percent, kill though, but they were
                1. 0
                  10 September 2019 22: 19
                  In Japan and China, banks give loans to their citizens without interest, but only to their ....
                  1. 0
                    10 September 2019 22: 40
                    Quote: restless
                    In Japan and China, banks give loans to their citizens no interestbut only to his ....
                    - even in the USSR there was no such thing .... well, there wasn’t ...
                    The only thing that comes to the mind of interest-free funds is mutual assistance, but these are not banks, this is our notion ...
                    ("Consumer credit in the USSR" (Publishing house "Knowledge", Moscow, 1983))
                    Loans for industrial goods (consumer lending) - 2%
                    Loans for the construction of individual residential buildings - from 1 to 2,7%
                    Loans to members of housing construction cooperatives to pay for a share - 2,7%
                    Loans for the purchase of durable goods - 5 - 6%
                    Loans with state subsidies to young spouses: for the purchase of an apartment - 1%, for equipment of an apartment - 2,5%
                    Personal loans (without specifying the purpose of use) - 8%
                    Loans for the construction and purchase of cottages - 8%.
                    1. +1
                      13 September 2019 04: 52
                      So in Europe there is a negative discount rate, they already officially pay those who take loans. (banks overwind the commission, it goes just above 0)
          2. 0
            11 September 2019 11: 36
            Do you need to be in Europe?
            local patriots from Ukraine will not smoke it out of Ukraine, they will not taste it in the Crimea, and if it gives profit in Europe then what’s bad
      2. +8
        10 September 2019 12: 52
        And Mr. Gref, what, patriot?!? Boo ha ha lol thank you have fun hi he does not even try to hide the fact that he is a Judas of the Russian land, although he is "tragically", since he is an ethnic German! Yes
  3. +14
    10 September 2019 05: 54
    What you expected. Fair competition is written only in liberal Western textbooks, in practice corruption and the law of the strong.
  4. +18
    10 September 2019 06: 04
    "real patriotism" is more like protectionism. Doesn't it remind anyone? Yes, in any Western country there is such patriotism (cross out the last and read as nationalism) on the verge of fascism. It is not necessary to go far: the USA, Ukraine, the Baltic states, etc.
    Officials, as they flew abroad, will be so, they are not afraid of anything, if necessary, they will sell their homeland, secrets. Besides, they have children and money offshore, so they themselves gave their "eggs" into the hands of a potential extortionist. Should we expect righteous patriotism from them ?!
    I have with them "2 different Fatherland" as K. Semin said
    1. +1
      10 September 2019 13: 04
      So your K. Semin has an egg in his hands, "exceptional" "light elves" (wife and child, live behind a puddle) hi
      1. -3
        10 September 2019 14: 42
        Quote: Rock616
        So your K. Semin has an egg in his hands, "exceptional" "light elves" (wife and child, live behind a puddle) hi

        Semin only said with literate words what many people like (including me). Hanging all the dogs on him is wrong.
        Do you keep a candle in their family? During his career, Semin has toured extensively around the world, who knows why his family lives abroad.
  5. +2
    10 September 2019 06: 04
    only we do not arrange this curtain. and whose top was taken ... judging by his skills and positions, he is not a carrier of technical secrets, and this is a frank and rather vulgar attempt to denigrate a competitor. we are driven into this curtain already openly and it is clearly visible. and it is not a matter of patriotism at all or something else, but simply lawlessness. everything that happens is getting stronger and stronger like tantrums for subtle moves can not be traced. just a rod for a break. if before I thought that we were being pushed into return moves, now I clearly see that everything is much simpler. the run over the Chinese giant was just ridiculous; now, our competitor has started to roll. they don’t even come up with new reasons. only an American business will soon begin to stand on its hind legs. and the reason is banal, he does not like when there are no rules. while everyone is afraid of losses, but it will all pass because there will be a choice between losses and total destruction to zero the business itself. Apple is losing the Chinese market at wild speeds. last year, a drop of 20 percent. and will fall again. there, in the company, apparently everyone is happy to this madness. Automobile concerns selling most of their products in China are also falling at a slower pace. we also have a drop in all spectra. hi sanctions hi trump. making their companies seem better, in fact, over time, they will suffer.
    1. LON
      0
      10 September 2019 11: 59
      Quote: carstorm 11
      only we do not arrange this curtain. and whose top was taken ... judging by his skills and positions, he is not a carrier of technical secrets, and this is a frank and rather vulgar attempt to denigrate a competitor.

      Apparently, according to US economic intelligence, the engine really came out successful.
      Apparently discussing something, without knowing what. Type OBS.
  6. -1
    10 September 2019 06: 13
    Spit on the curtain - if necessary, I can easily tighten the belt.
    1. +4
      10 September 2019 07: 53
      I can easily tighten the belt.
      just don’t mix up the belts, pull yours, and don’t touch the inhabitants of Russia in the name of saving the deputies.
      1. -7
        10 September 2019 07: 58
        and where did you get the idea that this only concerns deputies? at such a pace, they will start taking first large business and then medium. then they will reach the students.
        1. +5
          10 September 2019 08: 06
          first big business then medium. then they will reach the students.
          They have long come, only the Kremlin is engaged in this.
          1. -2
            10 September 2019 08: 13
            What does the Kremlin have to do with it?
            1. -3
              10 September 2019 08: 20
              What does the Kremlin have to do with it?
              Do you propose switching to self-government and driving away from the Kremlin, how does the Kremlin suggest driving away from paternalism?
              1. +2
                10 September 2019 08: 23
                I do not offer anything. I ask what does the Kremlin have to do with it when I asked what if it concerns not only deputies but people in general? Detention abroad on far-fetched pretexts?
                1. LON
                  0
                  10 September 2019 12: 03
                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  what if

                  If yes, if only.
        2. +7
          10 September 2019 08: 19
          As for the students, you are in vain - for the time being, these losers do not need anyone in FIG! However, this is about dvuhstnikov ... Look how Israel lures smart little! Here’s how it should be - and saving budget funds, and an almost ready-made specialist, and replenishing the people in the country! Smart country !!!
          Yes, Andryukha, it was necessary at one time to teach the Torah, circumcise a member and look for a Jewess, since then they came across in the streets! ...
        3. +6
          10 September 2019 10: 35
          Quote: carstorm 11
          reach the students.

          Yes, it seems like they have already arrived. Well, almost ... A couple of years ago they took a programmer who was engaged in text recognition. The guy was a couple of years after uni.
    2. LON
      +1
      10 September 2019 12: 01
      Quote: lucul
      Spit on the curtain - if necessary, I can easily tighten the belt.

      Happy you are ours. Apparently there is the opportunity to drill another hole in the belt.
  7. +16
    10 September 2019 06: 17
    Thank you Roman for the article ... as always, he touched on the most serious topic.
    All that he listed has been known for a long time ... here our opponent in the person of the United States plays in his field and according to his own rules, therefore we lose to him in all respects and will lose further if we do not change the rules of the game to our partisan rules.
    As you know, Americans have stolen a lot of intellectual property in the USSR, the heir to which Russia is ... and this should be used ... to audit what they stole from us and invoice their corporations and at the same time issue an international warrant for thieves of our intellectual property ... starting from a Kalashnikov assault rifle to garden pitchforks and shovels.
    1. +11
      10 September 2019 07: 57
      that's why we lose
      because the leaders of Russia sleep and see themselves in the West. After all, it is possible to arrange Russia so that it would be good for everyone. But in the West it is already beautiful, like in the movies, "he stole in Russia, drank, to the West, stole to the West."
      1. +8
        10 September 2019 08: 49
        After all, it’s possible to arrange Russia in such a way that it is good for everyone.
        No you can not. There will always be those who want most of all than others in the country, but I don’t want to put in extra effort (real work, not schemes, how to cheat someone,), I just want everything today and now. Therefore, either good for the majority, or we have what we have today.
        ps Roman Skomorokhov well done as always! good Keep it up! hi
        1. +1
          10 September 2019 14: 33
          There will always be those who want more than others
          I agree with this. But to equip, I meant that you can get your own "Courchevels" and a lot of things that will be at least no worse than in the west. But "gentlemen" a priori hate the Motherland.
          1. 0
            10 September 2019 16: 14
            Courchevel was not blown away by the wind, because they were equipped, i.e. worked with hands and head. And we have it with our heads, when for example, the construction of incinerators for non-rubber, is ordered by the Japanese and this is in a country where there is everything necessary. A logical chain is built up - who, how and why for high positions (where head by profile you need to work, and everyone with non-core education in such economic matters as pop in ballet) gets into and what subsequently happens because of such ,, figures ,, in the country .... except for the ,, figures, because they have achieved that for themselves what they wanted, quickly, all at once.
            1. +2
              10 September 2019 23: 27
              Actually, they buy a license for technology from Hitachi, in the world the processes of processing waste into Hitachi, CNIM and some Austrian company’s energy are mainly used, I don’t remember, I forgot, everywhere there is burning of waste with energy production by a steam turbine generator
              In Russia, the use of a UTZ steam turbine is planned and a domestic generator is also planned
        2. -1
          10 September 2019 18: 57
          Quote: DEPHIHTO
          - I just want everything today and now.

          little what you want! One must have the opportunity. And opportunities are money. Who now for life over the hill? everything must be reasonably done. For some reason, ordinary tourists over the hill are not seized.
    2. +4
      10 September 2019 08: 43
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      here our opponent in the person of the United States plays on his own field and according to his own rules, therefore we lose to him in all respects and will continue to lose if we do not change the rules the game will follow our own partisan rules

      because the leaders of Russia are sleeping and see themselves in the West

      I think you are both right. The second only further spins the mechanism of the first
    3. +1
      10 September 2019 11: 06
      Who will issue an invoice? "Patriots" with villas in Italy or houses in London?
  8. +7
    10 September 2019 06: 27
    I read it, but still did not understand what has to do with patriotism and even more so the "Iron Curtain". An attempt to explain in terms of the 20th century what is happening in the 21st century is perceived as a "game with beautiful words" as a result of which the meaning and purpose of what the author wanted to say is lost. In the current age of business globalization, patriotism means nothing. Especially among top managers))) In the same way, competitors devour each other all over the world - sorry, business is business - nothing patriotic !!! I can't believe that the top manager of Rostec, namely the TOP and precisely the MANAGER, is the person who could be called the CHIEF DESIGNER. Designers are "bought", not arrested. Therefore, for me personally, as they say: one "successful manager" more or one less - life in the country will not change. We have so many "patriots" among successful top managers in Russia that it is time to build our "Guantanamo" on some azure coast of the Arctic Ocean. And the level of patriotism is not measured by the amount of money, houses and cars ...
    1. +3
      10 September 2019 08: 01
      We here patriotism
      Yes, though. that all their effective menagers speak a word about patriotism. Assuming that we must be patriots defending their desire to live in Europe.
      1. +6
        10 September 2019 08: 17
        For Gardamir Politicians shout excitedly about patriotism, VIP - managers do not shout about anything at all, they hang out in closed "interest clubs", and they remember about patriotism only when they are caught stealing)))
    2. +2
      10 September 2019 08: 21
      We also need to build something similar for their "guests"!
      1. +3
        10 September 2019 09: 38
        For Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko Why is this needed? First, you need to understand the true reasons for the detention. And then later it turns out that this manager had accounts, business and real estate in the United States and "avoided" taxes. Italians are not fools, they understand the responsibility for the consequences. We must wait to turn on - "tit for tat". I think we are already working on this case.
        1. 0
          10 September 2019 13: 12
          You are right, let's not rush! An eye for an eye will always be in time.
    3. 0
      10 September 2019 19: 07
      Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
      one "successful manager" more or one less - life in the country will not change.

      rightly said. if they are all arrested, then the country benefits.
      Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
      We have so many "patriots" in Russia among successful top managers

      so it is their media "patriots" and presented. It is customary to consider a patriot only when he reveres power. if against - enemy, agent
  9. +2
    10 September 2019 06: 50
    It is worth considering that in this form the “Iron Curtain” may become a new occasion for the love of Russia and the emergence of real patriotism.
    ... Roman, is this you saying that at the time the curtain was closed, before the third bell, all patriots would not leave Russia? smile
    1. -1
      10 September 2019 07: 08
      yes with this big top and so comes to idiocy. Guam is now visiting through visas. I do not know a wretched place to stay. two weeks there it was hard labor. beautiful yes. but how boring it is ... the seafood day was completely killed))) and now people go through the American visa hell for the sake of these places ... of course no one will really suffer and spit in this direction. and this is a loss. and the question is, what for? not the patriots will have to go through all this too and do they need it?)))
    2. +5
      10 September 2019 07: 52
      Quote: parusnik
      It is worth considering that in this form the “Iron Curtain” may become a new occasion for the love of Russia and the emergence of real patriotism.
      ... Roman, is this you saying that at the time the curtain was closed, before the third bell, all patriots would not leave Russia? smile

      Until the last they will earn here, but they will leave only when they smell of responsibility .. they will leave without hesitation to a pre-arranged airfield, they will sell everything and everyone with giblets and will pour mud on Russia from abroad .. This is how the modern "patriot" works. But fortunately for "patriots" it won't be soon ..
      1. +1
        10 September 2019 08: 25
        I see, for almost 200 years, such and their ilk have been pouring mud on the country, harming, fleeing or emigrating, sometimes apologizing and returning! Apparently, something is not right here with us since the time of Nicholas I ... Either we can’t instill patriotism, or then our people are burrowing?!? ...
  10. +9
    10 September 2019 07: 21
    Of course, it is clear that, in the opinion of such "patriots", of whom, unfortunately, the government and the State Duma are composed, the so-called normal life is possible where it is acceptable, but not in Russia. Therefore, Europe and other regions are considered by the "patriots" as a kind of sleeping area. But in Russia, you can, let's just say, just work. For the good of the family and so on. Yes, this point of view is supported by the majority of Russian citizens. And Putin knows about it and it suits him, so sometimes he threatens with a finger.
  11. +7
    10 September 2019 07: 22
    The mimicry of the government protecting the interests of Russia and citizens has long passed. The day is not far when, upon a call, the special services will take Russian citizens to the United States .. The Bakatians remained.
  12. +3
    10 September 2019 07: 22
    "Although the Russian air transportation market is a very, very fatty piece, if prepared correctly. There would be a desire."

    The average price of an economy class air ticket from January to August of the 2019 of the year increased by 24,1%, Izvestia was informed in Rosstat. The last time such an increase was recorded in the 2008 year.
    1. -4
      10 September 2019 07: 33
      it always grows in summer and falls in autumn. Now for example I have found tickets for September 13 Khabarovsk-Moscow and back for 22000 rubles. agree not such a grandiose amount. about less than 20 still found. direct. non-stop. those are even cheaper.
      1. +4
        10 September 2019 08: 13
        You read inattentively - "The last time such an increase was recorded in 2008."
        1. -7
          10 September 2019 08: 27
          I fly dozens of times a year and believe me, what are the prices) such an increase every year and every year a fall in the fall. to be precise, December-January rises, then May-August falls, and then falls again. as there were tickets 5 years ago in the region of 20 plus or minus, they continue. I do not speak for all directions of course, but in my opinion the situation is this.
          1. +3
            10 September 2019 08: 45
            The news about the price increase for airline tickets followed quite predictably immediately after the price increase for the main grades of gasoline and fuels and lubricants began, and after them the price increase for aviation fuel will follow, the head of the analytical department of the International Financial Center Roman Blinov told a REGNUM correspondent .

            Details: https://regnum.ru/news/economy/2706044.html

            Since a reduction in fuel prices is not expected in the foreseeable future, I would not be so optimistic about a decrease in prices for airline tickets.
            1. -1
              10 September 2019 08: 59
              and before that, prices did not rise on fuel and lubricants? ) here, in fact, everything is simpler. flights in the absence of a season must be filled. again subsidized referrals from the state. as a result, I don’t especially observe differences in my direction. I repeat, this does not mean that everywhere. I just see and sing.
  13. +3
    10 September 2019 07: 36
    I think that the United States will completely begin to block both PD-14 and MS-21 on the basis of copyright infringement, unlicensed copying, theft of documents and even the hell knows what. But they will begin.

    This trick the United States could well have done without Korshunov. There may be other variations in this story. For example, the other day we voiced the desire of one of our airlines to file lawsuits against Boeing for lost profits for software flaws on the new airliner. At the same time, it was reported in the comments that this precedent, if it has positive trends, could catastrophically collapse Boeing's shares and practically destroy its competitive opportunities in the market in relation to Airbus. Isn't the US going to trade with Korshunov in this direction?
  14. +1
    10 September 2019 07: 45
    A little aside from the time of perestroika and without a break, it is still customary to scold the USSR in everything. Type and iron curtain Union built around itself. But the story is constantly repeated and it doesn’t matter socialism or capitalism, but do not go deputies (as well as big managers and so on, so on) to walk around Europe. And by the way, in the Zhdi8 field, they can easily arrest the president of Russia.
    so it’s time for the rulers of Russia to tie up with anti-Soviet, there are many other topics and cases that you can talk about and do.
    1. -3
      10 September 2019 08: 00
      what to tie? anti-Soviet?))) This is probably one hundred and fifty-hundredth place in a series of problems.
      1. +6
        10 September 2019 08: 09
        one hundred and five hundredth place
        Then why does someone whose initials look like gross domestic product speaks about the galoshes of the Soviet Union in every speech, there seems nothing more to be proud of.
        1. -8
          10 September 2019 08: 12
          Quote: Gardamir
          why does someone whose initials are like gross domestic product speaks in every speech about the galoshes of the Soviet Union

          Then why is someone whose ava is so similar to the fifth wheel lying in every comment and distorting the facts?

          I recall the phrase: if the enemy yells, then we are doing everything right. But you are a clear enemy, Gardamir negative
          1. +5
            10 September 2019 08: 18
            if the enemy yells, then we are doing everything right.
            This was said by Stalin, who did not sell his homeland. And you’re right, I’m the enemy of those who sell the Motherland. Enemy of Chubais and deputies. which after the elections will continue to patronize brothels in our district.
            1. +2
              10 September 2019 08: 24
              Quote: Gardamir
              I am the enemy of trading the Motherland. Enemy of Chubais and deputies. which after the elections will continue to patronize brothels in our district

              Don't ... they are not their enemy, you are nothing to them. But if you write about "roofing brothels" - then you will become an enemy ... but, IMHO, not for long request

              Quote: Gardamir
              This was said by Stalin, who did not sell his homeland. And you’re right, I’m the enemy of the Motherland traders

              Do not cling on. Stalin did not speak as much as he did. You just talk, feel the difference.

              And the enemy is not Chubais at all, no laughing
        2. -5
          10 September 2019 08: 18
          again these galoshes ... well, I remember what he said. that nobody but Africa bought them. already in 2012) 7 years have passed, can you calm down already?))) or was he wrong about the fact that our economy is one-sided and has been built for decades?
          1. +4
            10 September 2019 08: 34
            Not only galoshes, VVP issued many "pearls" on this topic ...
            Here is at least the last one, at a forum in Vladik, where he said that the Far East had only degraded all the years in the USSR ....
            a curtain...
            1. +3
              10 September 2019 08: 37
              Quote: Beringovsky
              Here is at least the last one, at a forum in Vladik, where he said that the Far East had only degraded all the years in the USSR ....

              Throw a link, something is not being looked for ... a campaign, you misunderstood something again laughing
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              2. -2
                10 September 2019 08: 52
                Find it yourself. At least with Konstantin Semin, on his YouTube channel. Release from 07.09.2019/XNUMX/XNUMX, called Investment delights. Easy to find, looking very interesting and informative. I recommend to everyone.
                1. +3
                  10 September 2019 09: 09
                  Well, why refer to the trash? There you are TIME TASS:

                  Quote: Putin will discuss with the public issues of development of the Far East
                  Putin noted that if Earlier, many Far Eastern territories, including Vladivostok itself, were mainly of military importance and practically did not develop in socio-economic terms, then in recent years the situation has changed dramatically


                  What's wrong with that? Why are you lying again? Well, Semin, it’s clear - he is fulfilling the order ...

                  ... And what color are you?
                  Comrade without a ticket?
                  1. +1
                    10 September 2019 09: 31
                    Well, why refer to the trash

                    Is that what you directly call GDP on camera so-called?
                    Actually, in the video, the GDP itself is present with a bright face. And this is what he says directly to the camera - "in fact, development then"(DV) in the social, economic sense of the word, there was practically no ...
                    Or are you not satisfied with the direct speech of the GDP and you prefer "official" cuttings?
                    What's wrong? Why are you lying?

                    anyone can watch this issue of Semin and make sure that you're lying. tongue
                    1. +6
                      10 September 2019 10: 14
                      Quote: Beringovsky
                      Is that what you directly call GDP on camera so-called?

                      Not. Bruschek Semina laughing

                      Quote: Beringovsky
                      And this is what he (GDP) says directly to the camera - in fact, development (DV) in the social, economic sense of the word, there was practically no...

                      Great, sir! Compare with yours:

                      Quote: Beringovsky
                      he stated that the Far East only degraded all the years in the USSR...

                      and with TASS at the same time:

                      Quote: TASS
                      Earlier, many Far Eastern territories, including Vladivostok itself, were mainly of military importance and practically did not develop in socio-economic terms

                      Sapienti, as they say, sat. "Almost complete absence of development in some senses" is not at all "degradation", my friend.

                      I repeat the question: buddy, why are you lying so impudently? Really for the money? belay
                      1. -3
                        10 September 2019 11: 10
                        Not. Bruschek Semina

                        So this is not Semin, but personally the GDPU said on camera. What does Semin have to do with it?
                        Great, sir! Compare with yours:

                        to compare, you need to watch a video with Putin. And you did not watch it. tongue Therefore, you can’t say anything wassat
                        so then, buddy.
                        well and
                        practically did not develop in socio-economic terms

                        what is that supposed to mean? a touch of humor, right? laughing
                      2. +7
                        10 September 2019 14: 46
                        Quote: Beringovsky
                        you did not watch it

                        How do you know? Just in case - I always look through the material before discussing it. Life, you know, taught wink

                        Quote: Beringovsky
                        what is that supposed to mean? a touch of humor, right?

                        This is to understand how your attempt to get away from the topic. But in reality - everything is very simple: you attributed to Putin words (and thoughts) that he did not speak (and did not think).

                        Therefore - I congratulate you, once again you lied. Whether by foolishness or by money, here it is not even important. It’s not good to do so, do you know negative
                2. 0
                  10 September 2019 09: 25
                  what is cognitive? what to interpret words one in other meanings? he does not say degraded. he said that Vladik, for example, was of more military importance to the country than economic. but it's true! who kicks the USSR there? when RI was even worse, and that means those times are kicking? why such jealousy then? Tipo when the union was not mistaken or what? didn’t make mistakes? that the same Khabarovsk airport was it a wild trash? how did people sit in the building for days? that the grass around him was trampled by those who didn’t get inside? and so every summer. did you stand for a plane ticket from 3 in the morning? and my parents stood to fly on vacation. is the development of Far East under the USSR you name?
                  1. -2
                    10 September 2019 10: 01
                    Putin also said that the socio-economic development (of the Far East in the USSR) "practically was not"
                    You won’t erase words from a song laughing
                    that the same Khabarovsk airport was it a wild trash?

                    The airport, apparently, also does not pull for development, since there was trash there? What else does not attract development? It is clear, the airports - that is why they were closed, apparently so as not to spoil the "development".
                    The factories built in the USSR were also spoiled by the factories, ports, hospitals, schools, universities, etc. Therefore, close them.
                    People still interfere with development. They came there in Soviet times, do you understand wassat Already from 1 million to 7 increased the population. Apparently Putin doesn’t consider this a development either. crying Is it a matter of population decline - is this evidently the development of Putinsky? fellow
                    1. -2
                      10 September 2019 10: 56
                      you see something of your own. what do they spoil? I’m just an example to you, an example of the development of the Far East with the union when creating a hub in which from all the Far East people flew to the transplant and went to hell. up to 8000 people in one barn sometimes reached. built of course who does it deny then? I've been in school for some 50 years of construction. and saw the new modern school only after 90. maybe the others were only I did not see and did not hear. maybe in the shops was everything your heart desires? Nope. everything is like everyone else. surely there housing was built at a wild pace and there were no problems with it? I will disappoint. Now it’s being built many times more. Are the roads good? Nope. etc. etc. Well, they built ports. it go nuts how socially developed everything. and they wanted to blame the west of the country as now many. I do not belittle what was done under the USSR. I say that for people and that they would like to live there nothing serious has been done. only coefficient and kept. there were no other reasons to stay there. retirement officers container tickets and Adju from there. What prevented the great and developed USSR from investing in this region and increasing its attractiveness, and why deny that it was so? but now when the possibilities are much less, why all of a sudden started to criticize what even though they started to do it now, tell me?
                      1. -3
                        10 September 2019 11: 42
                        up to 8000 people in one barn sometimes reached.

                        belay belay belay
                        are you alright
                        I've been in school for some 50 years of construction. and saw a new modern school only after 90

                        just think, in our town all the schools up to 90 g of construction. The newest was commissioned in my opinion at 86 m. And what? Where are these new schools? I do not see them laughing
                        now being built many times more

                        where it is, I do not see point blank. We have completed one 12 apartment building (it was completed). Yes, private construction in the middle of the late XNUMXs was, but it has long since died out.
                        Where are these new homes? I do not see lol
                        Well, they built ports. it go nuts how socially developed everything

                        still built factories, factories, airports, railway roads and ordinary, bridges, schools, hospitals, theaters and cinemas, museums, libraries, cultural centers, stadiums, motels, art, sports and other children's institutions, universities, research centers, power plants, dams .
                        How did this affect social and economic development?
                        Putin knows for sure - no way belay was not him according to Putin
                      2. +3
                        10 September 2019 13: 02
                        I'm definitely fine. I know the numbers perfectly. there were days that per day 8000 people passed. reports are not mine but the airport. google schools. next year, two new ones, for example, in the city and one rural.
                        in the union on this place was just a dirty beach. Now a new neighborhood. a school in which only teachers and staff are 500 people. with the union this was not built and was not even planned. Ice Palace. shopping center kindergartens and other goodies. once again. I do not deny that a lot was being built. only I lived there. and if the father quit before the age of 91, they would only see us there. they thought for months to get out of there. all this did not affect ordinary people. I worked my way and goodbye. so tell me, why with the union when, like everyone else said, people didn’t build it most, huh? and now when everyone is leaving two new neighborhoods, not only have they built so much and settled? why? or maybe because everyone was on the drum, and besides factories and ports, they did not pay special attention, did they? and this somehow does not at all fit with the fact that with the union everything developed there. Slowly they did something yes. and that’s it.
                      3. -1
                        10 September 2019 15: 34
                        Want to play in the picture? You are welcome. Here is a new school that you have not seen in the USSR.

                        with the union this was not built and was not even planned.

                        Such freaks? Yeah, sure ...
                        What good is it in this monstrous Center of yours where there are 500 service personnel only? This is where the children from there should be taken in traffic jams ... you are crazy about it.
                        And in the Union were within walking distance, the children themselves walked quietly, and did not carry them by car. And that was right.
                        two new neighborhoods not only built so settled and settled? why?

                        But because it’s profitable, they set up apartments - they have welded. Or were they handed out to the needy for free? Of course not.
                      4. +3
                        10 September 2019 16: 07
                        you are probably reading me along. firstly with teachers and other staff of 500 people. there is pre-school primary and secondary education. secondly you see there in the background at home? this is a small part of the entire new micro district there are still a lot of houses to the left and to the right .. freaks? Well this is a matter of taste already. and I'm not talking about that. but about the fact that now they are at least doing something. with the union, and this was not. you said you don’t see. I showed you. Of course then they built a lot of factories as you said ports. but people just forgot. therefore, they left there. there life is more complicated than in the center, and so are all kinds of airports. My purely personal opinion is that now the city is many times more beautiful and more convenient. damn in Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk runways as much as 87 lengthened so that 154 could land. before this en 24 and il 18 everything that flew. I will give you such examples of caring for the population of the Far East. so sorry but GDP was right when he said that they developed poorly then. no need to react to the truth so harshly.
                      5. 0
                        16 September 2019 20: 14
                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        ... I showed you. Of course, then they built a lot, as you said - ports were factories, but people just forgot. Therefore, they left there. There, life is more complicated than in the center, and all sorts of things like an airport. My purely personal opinion is that now the city is many times more beautiful and more convenient. In Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk, the runways were lengthened to 87 so that the Tu-154 could land. Prior to this, the AN-24 and IL-18 all that flew. I will give you such examples of caring for the population of the Far East. So I'm sorry, but the GDP was right when he said that they developed poorly then. No need to react to the truth so harshly.


                        Well, that is, only production, ports, factories were built in the USSR, but they did not think about people, the working people lived in barracks, there was nowhere for children to study. Therefore, they left from there ...

                        But now, in the Far East, after distributing Far Eastern hectares to everyone, schools, cultural institutions are being built for free, the infrastructure is being updated to meet modern requirements. Cleanliness, beauty, amenities. In a word, a paradise for visitors to permanent residence.
                        It is necessary to make and twist through the central transmission channels how well and freely lives on the Far East in modern Russia.
              3. 0
                10 September 2019 09: 08
                and this pearl some blogger-communist Stechkin wrote. I do not remember such a phrase on his blog.
            2. 0
              10 September 2019 09: 04
              so he did not say that they produced only galoshes !!! he said that they were not bought !!! THERE IS THE SAME pancake DIFFERENCE AT THE END OF THE END. and if all the words are only interpreted by the title of the video that those who posted it as they wanted and called it, then excuse me.
              1. +2
                10 September 2019 09: 16
                Quote: carstorm 11
                galoshes !!! he said that they were not bought !!!

                Dmitry, since they started talking to regular trolls - accept two rules:

                1. It is impossible to convince them, and striving for this is not worth it.
                2. It is possible and necessary to catch them in a lie. But being nervous is simply contraindicated request

                This is good advice, do as you want ...
                1. +3
                  10 September 2019 09: 32
                  Yes, I haven’t been nervous for a long time) actually, just as I’m not going to convince) I just don’t like when phrases to please my beliefs are redone as they want. so what kind of wife do I have for this master and can easily make me guilty when she assaults herself but she is a schoolgirl in comparison with some)))
                  1. +4
                    10 September 2019 09: 54
                    Quote: carstorm 11
                    I don’t like when phrases for the sake of my beliefs are redone as they want

                    This is a standard trolling technique, get used to it.
                2. +1
                  10 September 2019 10: 08
                  since they began to communicate with regular trolls

                  ahah laughing
                  this is written by a person who has 12 thousand comments wassat
                  and all pro-government.
                  Normul belay
                  1. +6
                    10 September 2019 10: 23
                    Quote: Beringovsky
                    this is written by a person who has 12 thousand comments

                    For five years. 6 pieces per day on average. I am a programmer, and at the computer all the time, sometimes even at night.

                    Quote: Beringovsky
                    and all pro-government

                    Rather - "kicking" people like you. Power is completely parallel to me, it does not interfere with my life (with rare exceptions), and I will get the rest for myself. And you and you like me are somehow unsympathetic.

                    Anderstend? wink
              2. +3
                10 September 2019 10: 09
                Quote: carstorm 11
                so he did not say that they produced only galoshes !!! he said that they were not bought !!! THERE IS THE SAME pancake DIFFERENCE AT THE END OF THE END.

                Of course have. As this figure said: "What we produced was not needed by anyone, and no one bought our galoshes except the Africans."
                Galoshes, by the way, were driven to Afghanistan.
                1. -1
                  10 September 2019 11: 14
                  Yes, even to Japan. Does this somehow change the fact that he did not say that only galoshes were produced?
                  1. +3
                    10 September 2019 11: 20
                    Quote: carstorm 11
                    he did not say that only galoshes produced

                    It's not about galoshes. The point is these words: "What we produced was not needed by anyone."
                    And this is not true, to say the least.
                    1. +2
                      10 September 2019 13: 16
                      and who needed it? countries of the social camp? Yes, they would buy galoshes if they also said distillation at what. It doesn’t differ much from how the states now sell their weapons, for example. and in a competitive environment it would be completely different.
                      1. -2
                        10 September 2019 15: 16
                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        and who needed it? countries of the social camp? Yes, they would buy galoshes if they also said distillation at what. It doesn’t differ much from how the states now sell their weapons, for example. and in a competitive environment it would be completely different.

                        One more... fool A foreign trade directory open to us lazily?

                        I wonder why the phrase with the West Germans bought refrigerators in the USSR race?
                      2. +5
                        10 September 2019 16: 21
                        I did not say that France did not buy refrigerators. no reference books are needed; I know more about the economy of the USSR than I need. 67 percent of all exports are countries of the socialist camp. I can if you want to call each in rubles. East Germany, for example, in the late period of the year, so 86 for example, almost 8 yards of rubles from the total export of 68 yards. Well, remove 67 percent of the social camp, what do you get in the end?
                      3. -4
                        10 September 2019 17: 02
                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        Well, remove 67 percent of the social camp, what do you get in the end?

                        We get an increase in turnover with capstranges.
                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        I did not say that France did not buy refrigerators.

                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        and who needed it?

                        And whose question is this?
                      4. +4
                        10 September 2019 16: 34
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        Another ... And is the foreign trade directory open for us lazily?

                        How much arrogance, where did request , and also a former "order bearer". smile
                      5. -4
                        10 September 2019 17: 20
                        Quote: Rusland
                        How much arrogance, where did

                        From there. They got it already when they write that nobody needed goods from the USSR. Parrots of GDP, or what?
                        Quote: Rusland
                        and also a former "order bearer".

                        Yeah, stuck in a bunch. I can already see the third informer from the order, although I did not take any active part in this order.
                      6. +5
                        10 September 2019 17: 24
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        Already the third trick from the order I see

                        Well, you drove something that is characteristic of your way of life, do not try on and do not apply to others, once in fluff, now you will not wash your eyelids. Like a scared crow.smile
                      7. -4
                        10 September 2019 18: 27
                        Quote: Rusland
                        Like a scared crow.

                        Quote: Rusland
                        Well, you drove something that is characteristic of your way of life, do not try on and do not apply to others, once in fluff, now you will not wash your eyelids.

                        Weren't you yelling there, demanded to intercede for you? Ugh. In the case of a branch write, everything else - in PM.
                      8. +2
                        10 September 2019 19: 36
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        Weren't you yelling there, demanded to intercede for you? Ugh.

                        Do not flatter yourself, I usually crush those without compensation, you are some kind of kid homegrown, so you wag.
                      9. -4
                        10 September 2019 19: 58
                        Quote: Rusland
                        I usually crush those without compensation

                        Good luck in this matter, crush.
                        Quote: Rusland
                        you kid homegrown

                        I told you, in the thread write about the case. On the individual - in PM.
                        Quote: Rusland
                        here you wag.

                        Where am I wagging? Was in the order? Yes, it did. Only quickly disappointed. A stupid undertaking designed to raise a sense of self-worth. And I won’t answer you here anymore.
                      10. +2
                        10 September 2019 21: 18
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        Quote: Rusland
                        I usually crush those without compensation

                        Good luck in this matter, crush.
                        Quote: Rusland
                        you kid homegrown

                        I told you, in the thread write about the case. On the individual - in PM.
                        Quote: Rusland
                        here you wag.

                        Where am I wagging? Was in the order? Yes, it did. Only quickly disappointed. A stupid undertaking designed to raise a sense of self-worth. And I won’t answer you here anymore.

                        And where did you get the idea that I was from your former office, into which you were allegedly carried by a tail wind? Looked for where "more interesting"? Well, unlike you, I am not proud and agree to a medal, start with the badges, that is, do not rush.
                      11. +6
                        10 September 2019 17: 29
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        They got it already when they write that nobody needed goods from the USSR

                        Vladimir, let's turn down the heat. What exactly, in your opinion, goods (non-raw materials, after all, we are talking about "we made") from the USSR were needed outside the USSR (and, preferably, CMEA and other "world socialist system." It is understandable, probably why)? I can't think of anything right off the bat ...

                        Am I not too difficult to build a question? feel

                        PS: Well, yes ... refrigerators ... and that’s all?
                      12. -2
                        10 September 2019 18: 17
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Ah, yes ... refrigerators ... and that’s all?

                        And which ones, Roman? Industrial, household? There are many. I'm already tired of spreading screenshots. Canned food will go to 70?

                        Or TVs in 80?
                      13. +3
                        10 September 2019 21: 22
                        Vladimir, thanks for the pictures, but - just a couple of numbers, offhand:

                        TVs, 1984, export.
                        Total - 1 111 619 pcs.,
                        Of these, not to the countries of the socialist camp - (56 500 + 23 662) (Germany + Italy)

                        This is 7.2% of the total.

                        The fact that there was a term (and not only the term itself) "special assembly", I am already silent request

                        If the figures are comparable for other positions - everything is very, very sad, IMHO. On the scale of the Union, a huge country - it’s the same as nothing.

                        So, rather, Putin’s opinion is nevertheless closer to me (he certainly has the opportunity to order such a calculation for all, or all key, export positions of the USSR).
                      14. -1
                        10 September 2019 22: 11
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        TVs, 1984, export.
                        Total - 1 111 619 pcs.,

                        1 111 619 pcs. - these are radios.
                        TVs - 814 160 pcs. Great Britain, where they sent 22 thousand units, was let through.
                        Just counted the export of watches. Of the 16 million pieces, more than four million went to countries. (1975 year.)
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Putin’s opinion is closer (he certainly has the opportunity to order such a calculation for all, or all key, export positions of the USSR).

                        For a long time, everything has been counted.
                      15. +4
                        10 September 2019 22: 26
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        1 111 619 pcs. - these are radios.
                        TVs - 814 160 pcs. Great Britain, where they sent 22 thousand units, missed

                        Yes exactly. I am blind laughing

                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        Everything has been counted for a long time

                        Got data? Want winked
                      16. -1
                        10 September 2019 22: 57
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Got data? Want

                        Yes, what else do you need? We take reference books and compare. If in 1974 the share of fuel and electricity for export was 25,4%, then in 85 it had already grown to 52,8%. So they sat on a needle. And what are our consumer goods for export now? I don't have them. No bicycles to Finland, no cameras to Spain. So the "one-sided economy" of the USSR was much more diverse today. IMHO.

                      17. +1
                        10 September 2019 23: 19
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Got data? Want

                        Yes, what else do you need? We take reference books and compare. If in 1974 the share of fuel and electricity for export was 25,4%, then in 85 it had already grown to 52,8%. So they sat on a needle. And what are our consumer goods for export now? I don't have them. No bicycles to Finland, no cameras to Spain. So the "one-sided economy" of the USSR was much more diverse today. IMHO.


                        Cameras .. why didn’t even doubt that ...
                        "...Among collectors goes the term "Frenchman."

                        This is the name of Zenit-Avtomat, equipped with an exposure control system developed by the French company EFCO. So for the first time on a domestic SLR camera, fully digital control on the elementary base of Motorola and a microprocessor were applied.

                        The device was intended exclusively for export to France and was not sold in the USSR ... "
                      18. -2
                        10 September 2019 23: 26
                        Quote: Town Hall
                        The device was intended exclusively for export to France and was not sold in the USSR ... "

                        Poor Englishmen, but what did they click on? They began to produce the Zenith machine in the 84, and in the 70 what did the bourgeois buy?
                      19. +1
                        10 September 2019 23: 31
                        ))) They bought Zeiss optics from factories exported from Germany to the USSR. In scanty quantities for bargain prices. Rarity, sir, so to speak.
                      20. -1
                        10 September 2019 23: 38
                        Quote: Town Hall
                        They bought Zeiss optics from factories exported from Germany to the Soviet Union after the war. In miserable quantities for bargain prices. A rarity, sir, so to speak.

                        Hehe. Let it be known to you that one of the first cameras of the USSR, the FED, was produced under a German license at a factory built by them. Gorky, juvenile delinquents, under the whip of the bloody NKVD. And they worked there. crying
                      21. +1
                        10 September 2019 23: 46
                        Who would doubt that)
                        In many ways, the process of increasing the production of 35 mm cameras in our country was also greatly facilitated by the fact that after the war from Germany to Kiev (Arsenal plant), the factory that produced the cameras was completely removed (along with specialists, spare parts and accessories) Contax By the end of the 40s, the production of cameras under the new name “Kiev” was already established (in 1947 the first two models were released, repeating the design of “Contax-II” and “Contax-III”) and continued in various modifications until 1985. It is curious that the first "Kiev" was produced from German components, and therefore their collection value today is quite high.
                      22. -1
                        10 September 2019 23: 55
                        Quote: Town Hall
                        In many respects, the process of increasing the production of 35 mm cameras in our country was also greatly facilitated by the fact that after the war from Germany to Kiev (Arsenal plant), the factory that produced the cameras was completely removed (along with specialists, spare parts and accessories) Contax By the end of the 40's, the release of cameras under the new name "Kiev"

                        Little was taken out, actually. If we calculate the damage, how much nemchuru we have destroyed, then they should have restored everything from us until the 60's.
                      23. +1
                        10 September 2019 23: 58
                        ))) And what do you think in the 60s was different?
                        the beginning of the 60s, a tendency towards the use of advanced ideas and developments of those times in camera technology was clearly outlined. The following can be cited as examples: “Narcissus” - a high-class SLR with interchangeable lenses in 14x21 format for 16mm film; “Zenith-6 ″ - a SLR camera that had a central (!) Shutter, standardly equipped with a 14-lens lens with variable focal length“ Ruby ”2,8 / 37-80 (in the end, it is not so important that the idea and technical details of this family of cameras were borrowed from the German company Voigtlander), built-in motor drive in the Zenit-5 camera (the world's first 35mm SLR with a built-in electric motor), semi-automatic testing of the exposure in the Zorkiy-10, -11, Kiev-15 cameras, automatic in the Sokol and Kiev- 10".
                        With a Record-4Sokol lens, ”produced at LOMO since 1966, had a five-program automation system and was equipped with a central shutter "Copal Magic" (Japan) with a shutter speed range of 1/30 - 1/500 integrated in the Industar-70 lens (2,8 / 50).
                      24. -2
                        11 September 2019 00: 04
                        Quote: Town Hall
                        was equipped with a central shutter "Copal Magic" (Japan)

                        And what from this? I’ll tell you more, the Soviet Union’s most popular tape recorder, the 302 Electronics, was often supplied with a Japanese engine and Hungarian LPM, which they, in all likelihood, communized with Philips.
                      25. 0
                        11 September 2019 00: 06
                        From this, that the USSR is the same industrial power a la Vietnam now, the assembly by cheap labor of foreign inventions and export for a penny
                      26. -1
                        11 September 2019 00: 16
                        Quote: Town Hall
                        that the USSR is the same industrial power a la Vietnam

                        Here it is not necessary. Not a single country in the world was able to launch a space reusable UAV; the USSR was the first to build a nuclear power plant. In terms of radio transmission power, we were ahead of everyone in the 30 years. Our ships plowed all the sea-oksiyan in 60-e. Which Vietnam? And the production of consumer goods was not in the first place. And the lack of competition affected. (the same artels).
                      27. +1
                        11 September 2019 00: 18
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        No country in the world has been able to launch a space reusable drone

                        What is this?
                      28. -2
                        11 September 2019 00: 23
                        Quote: Town Hall
                        What is this?

                        This is Buran.
                      29. 0
                        11 September 2019 00: 31
                        ))). What would the unit be called reusable, it must fly off more than once. EMNIP-Buran is still a disposable bun.
                        Of the reusable, only the Shuttle was created. And by the way, the drone actually was. The pilots "manually" controlled it only at the moment of touching the runway. And on Buran, if the crew was flying on it, they would also manually land it. Manual landing is safer. automatic is simple. And the technology of unmanned flights (and landings) was already 20 years old by the time of Buran's flight. Massively used on airplanes on regular flights already. Do not be fooled by the Internet about the unmatched
                      30. -1
                        11 September 2019 00: 43
                        Quote: Town Hall
                        What would the unit be called reusable, it must fly off more than once.

                        He was not allowed to fly more than once.
                        Quote: Town Hall
                        Of the reusable, only the Shuttle was created. And by the way, the drone is actually. The pilots "manually" controlled it only at the moment of touching the runway.

                        The shuttle never flew without pilots.
                        Quote: Town Hall
                        And the technology of unmanned flights (and landings) was already 20 by the time of the Buran’s flight. Mass airplanes were already used in regular flights.

                        First remove the pilots, and then write about unmanned take-offs and landings. I'm going to sleep. hi
                      31. 0
                        11 September 2019 00: 46
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        First remove the pilots, and then write about unmanned take-offs and landings

                        The X-37 Boeing flies in space for years. It lands and takes off again)
                        Good night hi
                      32. +3
                        10 September 2019 23: 21
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        If in 1974 the share of fuel and electricity for export was 25,4%, then in 85 it already grew to 52,8%. So sat on a needle

                        I agree.

                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        And what are our consumer goods now exported? No them

                        And what consumer goods are now exported from, for example, the United States? Yes, too, do not have them. All China ...

                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        No bicycles to Finland, no cameras to Spain

                        Well, Nokia is no longer "native" and much, much more ... now China and Prochas Malaysia is the production site of the world request

                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        the "one-sided economy" of the USSR was much more diverse today

                        Certainly. But she lived in specially created "hothouse" conditions for her (the same socialist camp), and did not live very optimally - we recall the loans written off by the Russian Federation, we think ... well, that's not the point:

                        It is necessary to compare comparable values. For example, export structure in countries Union and the Russian Federation.
                        And all these watch-bicycles-Lada - were, IMHO, basically an element of politics: here, de, look - and we can ... well, yes, the special assemblies Lada and Zhigul then - it was the same machine ... plus the prices of this export - dumping of clean water ... that's why they took it.

                        Also, essno, IMHO.

                        That's it, I’m horizontal, I’ll work tomorrow, almost a week in the hospital I got into a mess.
                      33. 0
                        10 September 2019 23: 26
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        If in 1974 the share of fuel and electricity for export was 25,4%, then in the 85th it had already grown to 52,8%.

                        It will not be difficult to indicate how much gas / oil the USSR produced in 1974 and in 1985? .. and from what year did the bourgeoisie agree to buy gas oil from the USSR? ..not in the beginning of the 80s after the oil crises of the mid 70s arranged by the Arabs?
                      34. 0
                        10 September 2019 23: 48
                        Quote: Town Hall
                        It will not be difficult to indicate how much gas / oil the USSR produced in 1974 and 1985? .. and from what year did the bourgeoisie agree to buy gas oil from the USSR?

                        I don’t know how much they mined, and I don’t want to know, but the USSR began to get a needle on in the middle of the 70’s, after the Arab-Israeli wars, when the Arabs refused to sell oil to the West, and we joyfully muttered our mouths for free.
                      35. 0
                        10 September 2019 23: 52
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        I don’t know how much they mined, and I don’t want to know

                        But in vain. And you would know that it was not the USSR that didn’t want the needle .. it's just that the damned capitalists didn’t want to buy from him until the 80s. Otherwise, they would sit on the needle with pleasure much earlier
                      36. 0
                        10 September 2019 23: 57
                        Quote: Town Hall
                        The USSR did not want a needle .. it's just that the damned capitalists did not want to buy from him until 80's

                        It was in 70 that they wanted it when the Arabs showed them cookies.
                      37. -1
                        11 September 2019 00: 01
                        And the USSR happily became a raw materials appendage instead of Arabs.) Provided for a penny fuels and lubricants a hostile NATO unit created for its (USSR) destruction. If there were a war at that moment, NATO tanks and planes would have fought against Soviet kerosene on the Soviet Union)
                      38. 0
                        11 September 2019 00: 08
                        Quote: Town Hall
                        Had there been a war at that moment, NATO tanks and planes would have fought on Soviet kerosene against the USSR)

                        Chopped off supplies at Ain moment. However, I don’t really like everything that happened in the USSR after the death of Stalin. We were gradually losing ground.
                      39. 0
                        11 September 2019 00: 09
                        How in June 41?) ..
                      40. -1
                        11 September 2019 00: 22
                        Quote: Town Hall
                        How in June 41?) ..

                        History does not tolerate the subjunctive mood. crying I don’t know how to act in June of 41, there were errors, no doubt. But, what was, was, and now cannot be changed. And if tomorrow China attacks us, for example, we will regret that the other buns were sold to them by C-400.
                      41. 0
                        10 September 2019 23: 10
                        Volodya, are you again some kind of scans to google and clever? I already poked you somehow - the USSR PLANT completely bought !!! Togliatti, heard of this? Now give the argument that the French and Germans in the USSR bought plants?
                      42. -1
                        10 September 2019 23: 17
                        Quote: Okolotochny
                        Now give the argument that the French and Germans in the USSR bought plants?

                        I won’t bring it. But the Chinese auto industry did the USSR. As for the Germans, they bought from us many factories in our territory in 90. Like the custodians. Gypsum-Knauf, for example.
                      43. -2
                        10 September 2019 15: 51
                        But now under Putin we are producing the right amount .. and are selling to the whole world ..))
                        But no .. not everything .. but only to China .. and we don’t sell, but buy .. and not much, but everything .. Well, as it should be in a competitive environment ..))

                        Whose cow would mumble at the Soviet Union, to which we ... uuuuu ..
                      44. +2
                        10 September 2019 16: 22
                        the conversation is not about that. generally. not about production but about how ordinary phrases are distorted. if you get in then read first.
                      45. 0
                        11 September 2019 10: 13
                        I read first .. just forgot to report it ..
                        And answered a very specific phrase
                        "at what. does not differ much from how the states now sell their weapons for example. but in a competitive environment it would be completely different."

                        Do we now have a kind of competitive environment ?? Or not competitive ??
                        So maybe I have the right to compare ?? To make it clear - how "different" it is ..

                        and who needed it? countries of the social camp?

                        Where is "about how common phrases are twisted" ??

                        You wrote about the states .. nobody reproached you that the conversation was not about states .. and not about weapons ..
            3. +6
              10 September 2019 16: 25
              Quote: Beringovsky
              Not only galoshes, VVP issued many "pearls" on this topic ...
              Here is at least the last one, at a forum in Vladik, where he said that the Far East had only degraded all the years in the USSR ....
              a curtain...

              Did you move the "curtain" yourself? Or paid extra laughing
  15. +7
    10 September 2019 07: 47
    A ban on travel to people related to state secrets of the country (including deputies, except for official trips) would not hurt. And who wants to ride all kinds of Courchevels there, let the beer stalls open, and not stick to the state treasury.
  16. +5
    10 September 2019 08: 07
    And when will the States be held responsible for stolen Soviet technology?
    1. +4
      10 September 2019 08: 28
      I suspect that there at one time they did something different and smarter ... Guess how?
  17. +7
    10 September 2019 08: 09
    Novel! Bravo! fellow
    It was difficult, but mastered. You have correctly noticed the tendency of our top-ranking government officials to turn their eyes to countries propagating dubious cultural values, but turning a blind eye to all the "frivolities" of our "eminent" (everyone has recognizable names and faces) and top secret compatriots.
    Take at least the same London. I doubt very much that Mr. Zolotov was fond of English in his early childhood and pimpled youth. Little of. I'm sure the sentence: "Who's who?" he can make several spelling mistakes by switching to "Cyrillic". But he sent his grandson to GB. How should we be?
    How can we instruct them
    All his minions?
    Iron curtain? What is it that turns out? A retired history teacher wanted to see live on the monuments of Ancient Greece, to appreciate the past greatness of Rome with his own hands or to taste the smoke of Shakespeare's homeland, and to him - "Departure is closed."
    Still, a version of harsh legislation, when officials - "DO NOT HAVE RIGHTS !!!" more acceptable. But if it acts in such a way that people convicted of corruption and embezzlement for “long” terms will be released after a couple of years according to parole, if people with “lost trust” and “wet reputation” will be attached to the state feeder ad infinitum, then what's the use that legislation? Legislation, which lawmakers redo and retype without popular demand and consent solely to satisfy their own whims ...
    As for this:
    It turns out such an interesting alignment: or are you a patriot working for the good of the country, and then the resorts of the Krasnodar Territory and Crimea are all yours. Well, still Turkey, probably. If you are not a patriot ...
    And in this case, you can’t be sure that they won’t grab the soft parts of the body and put them on a hard bench in the courtroom.

    The situation here is such that not a single Russian citizen can feel protected from the arbitrariness of international laws (specifically in relation to Russians), while officials who are financially dependent on international institutions are in power. So far, any statesman can be taken for the "udder" through foreign accounts, real estate, relatives, business, etc., etc.
    That is why Chinese anti-corruption methods cause them real animal fear. They are not used to such treatment. For several decades they have successfully transferred all the negativity, all hardships onto the shoulders of a true source of power ...
    hi
    1. +5
      10 September 2019 18: 20
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Novel! Bravo!
      It was difficult, but mastered.

      Patience and labor will grind everything. Read more, communicate more and all difficulties will be on the shoulder. smile
  18. +4
    10 September 2019 08: 22
    I personally do not understand this itch that persecutes our high-ranking officials, there are not among them those who grew up in poverty and achieved everything, it seems, themselves, but after all, most of them belong to the number of those who are called births "smeared with honey" and for this reason the blessings of life they cling to them. And now, having become an adult, he suddenly sees that the neighbor has more dacha and he each has the most cars, but for some reason his dad is being shy, he doesn't have a car, be healthy too, but his neighbor is cooler, and here he starts to itch in all places, well, how can you not remember Khrushchev, with his "Catch up and overtake!" Well, and here is a knurled track, you must first overtake in position, since dad did not provide a bad start, and then in everything else, itching requires and let the loser cry. Tear and tear again, even at times with some risk.
  19. +7
    10 September 2019 08: 25
    Yes, how much can one and the same topic ... reason ??? They will do according to their understanding \ Wishlist!
    We do not expect new Stalin and Beria, dermocracy, its nuclei! They will get drunk and ........
    And for US - For a week, until the second, I will leave for KOMAROVO !!! - the most that is necessary !!!
    1. +5
      10 September 2019 13: 49
      You need to write, at least here in VO people read and see that they are not alone in thinking that, but there is someone who is in solidarity with them, this is important, especially for the younger generation.
      1. +2
        10 September 2019 13: 54
        Quote: Chaldon48
        You need to write

        And here you can grab anything .... write everything, control only overtly extreme in literature and utterances.
        We can even pick up anything on television, and there the control is much cooler.
        1. +1
          10 September 2019 23: 11
          Each person must learn to control himself, if this is not any filtration control, it may be useless.
          1. 0
            11 September 2019 07: 22
            Quote: Chaldon48
            Each person must learn to control himself, if this is not any filtration control, it may be useless.

            Everything will be in the case when carried out reasonably and systematically.
            Self-control, parenting, the cultural environment and much more, useful, BUT, some have to be slowed down, put in control ..... within the framework of generally accepted rules! This is our reality!
            All in moderation and on business.
  20. BAI
    +4
    10 September 2019 09: 00
    As I was told by competent comrades, it was a special operation of the United States with a Russian citizen being lured abroad, where he was arrested. The CIA - offset, ours laughed.
  21. BAI
    +7
    10 September 2019 09: 10
    About officials and their attitude towards Russia, I always said the following:
    - In the West, the decline of foundations, debauchery and thingism!
    “But why did you buy an apartment in London?”
    - Once again I repeat for the stupid: "In the West, the decline of foundations, debauchery and materialism!"
    1. +1
      10 September 2019 23: 15
      Probably the official is buying an apartment in London so that by his presence he will help the West not to fall into the pit of "materialism". Here is such an altruist!
  22. +5
    10 September 2019 09: 55
    Quote: Gardamir
    who are "theirs" and who are "unconditional adversaries".
    photos from Europe. where Gref gives Europeans loans at 2% to you a little. And there are many such examples. When such patriots rush into the Duma and everywhere where the smell of free money.

    just looked, patriotic Sberbank gives loans in Germany at 1,8% wassat
    it says "easy to get" - even a certificate of health status, HIV and other stupid documents do not need to be provided tongue
  23. +2
    10 September 2019 10: 25
    Quote: Gardamir
    Gref gives Europeans loans at 2%

    The interest rate on loans depends on the key rate of the central bank. And Gref has nothing to do with it. If it gives 2%, then the key rate of the European Central Bank provides profit. Do you recall the key saying of T. Dunning? About 300% profit. Of course, I understand that Gref is an enemy of the people, but the fact that Sberbank does not give us loans at 2% is not Gref's fault. Let's separate the flies from the cutlets. Of course the phrase about Gref and 2% loans are creepy spectacularbut does not carry any meaning. You’d better name personally those who blame that the Central Bank holds such bets, there are a lot of them, I'm afraid the machine gun will eventually overheat.
    1. +5
      10 September 2019 11: 37
      It’s interesting, and who is to blame for the fact that inflation is going off scale? Gref from the same gang.
    2. 0
      10 September 2019 16: 02
      there are a lot of them, I'm afraid the machine gun will eventually overheat.


      The main thing to start !!
      In such a case, a pistol could be quite enough ... or even a rope of suitable thickness ..
      And in a month, those who were many would immediately become a couple of orders less ..
  24. +3
    10 September 2019 10: 31
    Quote: carstorm 11
    Apple is losing the Chinese market at wild speeds. last year, a drop of 20 percent.

    This is a war, and not just trade. Following Apple, google will fly out of the Chinese market. The first shot was not made by China ..... Let's see who else burns in this war.
  25. +4
    10 September 2019 11: 56
    There is a great opportunity to "be sure". Our officials will simply have to document their long-standing "friendship" with the American special services, that's all. That is, the betrayal, which they are engaged in day after day, must be "increased in degree." I am sure that now most of our top officials besiege their curators with questions - what exactly should they do to get immunity from the persecution of their property, relatives and money?
    Of course, any official who has property and money abroad is a traitor and no one else. It simply cannot be otherwise, banking secrecy has long been cracked all over the world, registries of property owners have never been secret, so acquiring all this outside the state border is an automatic application for admission to at least an informant in the special services of one overseas country.
    It’s just that for most of these people nothing was documented. Still. Now I have to. There is such a game when it is proposed to characterize something in one word. The game is very useful for children, wakes up thinking. If we characterize our power in one word, then this word will be - I’m bending. Alas.
  26. +3
    10 September 2019 12: 06
    They are trying to quarrel Russia with Italy. Now Europeansimists are in power in Italy, who are trying to build relations with Russia amid the struggle with Brussels. In general, it is time to begin to respond to such detentions. First, create a list of countries where there have been cases of abduction or murder by government agencies of citizens of the Russian Federation. To travel to these countries, you will need to pay a large insurance premium (in case of legal and medical assistance). Secondly, to use the feature of Anglo-Saxon law - precedence. The USA is declared wanted for espionage - in response to file those citizens of the Russian Federation on the international wanted list for espionage. who fled to the USA. Or put on the wanted list an American diplomat who several years ago attacked a policeman in Moscow at the entrance to the Ameran embassy. Let him answer for hooliganism. Not everywhere, he will travel with a diplomatic passport.
  27. +5
    10 September 2019 14: 10
    I understand correctly that the purpose of the development of a wave of patriotism is the fact that the patriots of the "new wave" will stop sending their children to study in the USA and the World Bank, stop buying hotel chains in Austria, villas and vineyards in Italy, and the existing business there will be closed and transferred here ? Well, for example, they will develop the resorts of the Krasnodar Territory or the hotel business in the Crimea. What, and the money from offshore, earned by back-breaking labor, will be returned to Mother Russeya? And by their example they will raise patriotism in the country?
    (C) Fresh giving, hard to believe.

    And if not, then why is that all? Another drank budget allocated for the development of patriotism?
  28. 0
    10 September 2019 15: 40
    As it becomes clear, engineer Korshunov himself has absolutely nothing to do with it.

    And the MS-21 can become a real competitor in the market. This means that the competitor must be “flunked” at the taxi, not allowing takeoff.


    Based on the fact that he is not an engineer at all, but for the most part a diplomat and manager .. then he really has nothing to do with either the plane or its engine ..

    If Rogozin is arrested somewhere tomorrow, then the engines of the Angara / Union / Proton will sob or something ..
    But Mutko left our sport .. and nothing sports in the country still continues to exist ..
    What really affects the arrest of this Korshunov is that (probably) he will not have to pay his salary .. which is not so scary for the country ..
  29. +2
    10 September 2019 16: 11
    Well, ours or "ours" cannot block the US with uranium and titanium products?
    To fight, so to fight!
    And what kind of secret people do we have abroad?
    Who is in charge of the FSB in Russia? Also spy top managers?
  30. +1
    10 September 2019 18: 02
    He is probably the secret bearer, or is it now possible for everyone to ride abroad?
  31. 0
    10 September 2019 18: 28
    The photo against the background of the "spy bridge" is symbolic ... winked lol
  32. -2
    10 September 2019 18: 36
    ... or you are a patriot working for the good of the country, and then the resorts of the Krasnodar Territory and Crimea are yours. Well, still Turkey, probably. If you are not a patriot ...

    I want to say the words of the house manager ...

    Now, if the Nightingale, Brileva and Kisileva on request and to the States!
    After all, they know, under the "cap" and climb over the hill. Got it, vacation, sea, villas, tangerines. well and rightly so.
  33. 0
    11 September 2019 12: 13
    So what was this secret manager in Naples doing?
    A sergeant who knows nothing but the list of local drunks cannot go anywhere, but here ....
  34. 0
    16 September 2019 08: 23
    Patriots go to the Maldives,
    Patriots go to Thailand
    Patriots Opera Divas
    From La Scala they show their talent,
    Patriots, reinforcing the staples,
    Donate to temples without stinting ...
    And Semyon Kuzmich is an agent of the State Department! -
    In my backwoods there is mud
    Mothers go hunting
    Arguing about politics with his wife.
    He scoundrel is rocking the boat
    That already, at least that alive.
    Everything from the government requires something,
    Everything is buzzing, some kind of bullshit,
    He won’t understand everything, Bosota:
    Power should not be a drop to him.
    Named the airports
    So he’s not happy about that either!
    He is out of his comfort zone
    It won’t get out, bastard.
    They let him fallow
    Collect for nothing in the forest
    But all is not enough for him. He is a rebel -
    The prison missed you like that!

    Andrey Shigin, 13.12.2018/XNUMX/XNUMX