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IAEA confirms Iran's installation of new centrifuges at nuclear facilities

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The IAEA has confirmed that Tehran has begun installing modern centrifuges at its nuclear facilities. This is another step by Iran to reduce the commitments made by the Islamic Republic in 2015.




Iran continues to reduce the list of commitments made under the Vienna nuclear deal. This time, the Islamic Republic began the installation of advanced centrifuges at nuclear facilities. This was reported by the Israeli Russian-language publication Newsru.co.il with reference to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

We confirm that the following centrifuges have already been installed or are under construction: 22 IR-4, one IR-5, 30 IR-6 and three IR-7.

- quoted the publication statement of the regulator. According to the message TASSTehran is about to launch another 20 IR-6 centrifuge.

A day earlier, official Tehran notified the acting the head of the IAEA, Cornel Feruta, that the country is ready for the third phase of the refusal of a nuclear deal: the installation of centrifuges relates precisely to such actions. The authorities of the Islamic Republic claim that the EU has not fulfilled its obligations under the agreement. Also, the country will not abide by restrictions on atomic research.

The crisis of the world community in relations with Tehran escalated after Washington withdrew unilaterally from the Vienna agreements of 8 on May 2018, accusing Tehran of default. Exactly one year later, Iran began the process of reducing obligations. In addition, the Islamic Republic is about to reduce its obligations every 60 days.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 9 September 2019 15: 07
    +15
    IAEA confirms Iran's installation of new centrifuges at nuclear facilities
    May Israel thank its protector - the United States.
    1. Kontrik
      Kontrik 9 September 2019 17: 09
      +9
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      May Israel thank its protector - the United States.

      And how much you can scoff and threaten Iran.! They don’t want to negotiate normally, get gentlemen and then don’t whine .. Maybe it’s for the better if Iran gets nuclear weapons. Israel will finally calm down .. And maybe stability will finally be restored in the Middle East ... Dreams, of course, and yet
      1. Karaul14
        Karaul14 9 September 2019 17: 31
        -9
        Quote: Kontrik
        And how much you can scoff and threaten Iran.! They don’t want to agree normally, get gentlemen and then don’t whine .. Maybe it’s for the better if Iran gets nuclear weapons. Israel will finally calm down ..
        An example of warped thinking, Iran, like some other countries in the Middle East, does not recognize the existence of Israel from its very foundation and has attacked it more than once! The problem is not in Israel, or does he just like to bomb everyone and spend money on it?
        1. Kontrik
          Kontrik 9 September 2019 18: 59
          +5
          Quote: Karaul14
          An example of warped thinking,

          I did not expect another from a Jew ... bully
          Quote: Karaul14
          Iran, like some other countries in the Middle East, does not recognize the existence of Israel from its very foundation and has attacked it more than once!

          Well, still, everyone remembers the formation of Israel, there was a massacre, even the UN was outraged ..
          Quote: Karaul14
          The problem is not in Israel, or does he just like to bomb everyone and spend money on it?

          And you have a lot of funds, the USA is your wallet and many others
          USSR, just how much it gave you !!!! After all, you were originally an agrarian territory .. And then "our" refugees flooded to you and not empty-handed .. And we see your "gratitude" for a long time .. And everything is not enough for you. angry
          1. Karaul14
            Karaul14 9 September 2019 20: 13
            -1
            Quote: Kontrik
            , everyone remembers the formation of Israel, the massacre was, even the UN was outraged ..
            Well, in 1948, including the USSR voted for the partition plan of Palestine, but some did not want to see Israel on the world map.


            Quote: Kontrik
            You are


            Quote: Kontrik
            your

            I have nothing to do with Israel and the Jews.
            1. Kontrik
              Kontrik 9 September 2019 20: 23
              +2
              Quote: Karaul14
              I have nothing to do with Israel and the Jews.

              So much the worse for you ... hi
    2. Karaul14
      Karaul14 9 September 2019 17: 34
      -7
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      IAEA confirms Iran's installation of new centrifuges at nuclear facilities
      May Israel thank its protector - the United States.
      From the very beginning, Israel was in favor of withdrawing from the deal, for it saw some loopholes for Iran, at the moment the task is to convince the EU to exit the deal, which they are now successfully dealing with, because if Iran withdraws from its obligations, the EU will exit too Actually, with the EU, sanctions will work again in full force and Iran will again be driven to an agreement with more stringent conditions.
      1. Kontrik
        Kontrik 9 September 2019 19: 54
        +3
        Quote: Karaul14
        Israel was right from the start for getting out of the deal,

        You just need to bomb the Arabs .. And the Persians will not be your teeth for now!
        1. Karaul14
          Karaul14 10 September 2019 18: 22
          -1
          I just try to objectively evaluate, historically, these countries are unfriendly to Israel, the alignment of forces at the beginning of the first wars of Jews and Arabs was not at all in Israel’s favor and if it does not monitor the situation and bomb anyone, it’ll just lose the initiative and it may cease to exist, since its opponents are many times greater than its number, and Israel cannot be reconciled with these countries for a very good reason - they do not recognize its right to exist.
          1. Kontrik
            Kontrik 10 September 2019 19: 24
            0
            Quote: Karaul14
            I’m just trying to objectively evaluate, historically, these countries are unfriendly to Israel,

            Too many in the world are not friendly to you, although the world media is practically under your control .. Wherever you go everywhere "Jews are offended" .. laughing
            Israel is generally incomprehensible territory ..
            Well, after the collapse of the USSR, many new countries appeared, which were not even mentioned before .. But they live nothing, sometimes they bark even without nuclear weapons. Hehe.
            Maybe the problem is in you? You have a lot of ambition and intricacies of different "mental" .. So you "suffer" wassat
            1. Karaul14
              Karaul14 10 September 2019 20: 13
              -1
              Who are we? I’m alone here)) I am not a Jew and not an Israeli and have never been, I repeat. I see that you don’t have any arguments at all, you don’t think objectively, you only follow some given attitude and adjust your worldview to it, if that can be called a worldview.
  2. Greg Miller
    Greg Miller 9 September 2019 15: 14
    +17
    The Iranian leadership understands that with nuclear weapons in the arsenal they are in the future - Iran, and without it in the future - Iraq ....
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 9 September 2019 15: 51
      -6
      Quote: Greg Miller
      The Iranian leadership understands that with nuclear weapons in the arsenal they are in the future - Iran, and without it in the future - Iraq ....

      Um. Recommend Ukraine to create nuclear weapons?
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 9 September 2019 15: 58
        +14
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Um. Recommend Ukraine to create nuclear weapons?

        Ukraine is not Iran. The Persians set the task - and SOLVE it. And VNA - just spread the allocated funds ...
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 9 September 2019 16: 09
          0
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          Um. Recommend Ukraine to create nuclear weapons?

          Ukraine is not Iran. The Persians set the task - and SOLVE it. And VNA - just spread the allocated funds ...

          Underestimating the enemy’s potential has often turned into big problems.
          1. Rwmos
            Rwmos 9 September 2019 17: 15
            +5
            Underestimating the enemy’s potential has often turned into big problems.

            Yeah, Ilovaisk ...
      2. Sky strike fighter
        Sky strike fighter 9 September 2019 16: 00
        +4
        Here, some do not need to be recommended. Turkey already seems to be working on nuclear weapons and does not hesitate to declare it openly, taking into account their close relations with Pakistan, there is nothing surprising in this. It is interesting why no one is commenting on it? . And where is this IAEA?
        Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, during his lengthy speech at the Central Anatolian Economic Forum in Sivas, made an extremely important statement and said that Turkey, in his opinion, should have nuclear weapons and some work had even begun in this direction.

        This is the first public statement on this subject that has ever sounded from the lips of the president or other senior Turkish officials.

        https://inosmi.ru/politic/20190906/245783121.html
      3. Constructor68
        Constructor68 9 September 2019 16: 04
        +2
        And who is threatening Ukraine? Armored buryat divisions on the border with Ukraine only in the inflamed brain of its big and small leaders
      4. paul3390
        paul3390 9 September 2019 17: 33
        +2
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Recommend Ukraine to create nuclear weapons?

        "After all, this is not even a state" ... (c)
      5. Greg Miller
        Greg Miller 9 September 2019 17: 40
        +5
        "Ukraine is not Russia" (L. Kuchma) So it won't have nuclear weapons either ....
  3. Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 9 September 2019 15: 17
    -2
    . The authorities of the Islamic Republic claim that the EU has not fulfilled its obligations under the agreement. Also, the country will not abide by restrictions on atomic research.

    Everything is logical. For what they fought (EU), they ran into something
  4. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 9 September 2019 15: 20
    +7
    Is Israel already preparing its 35th to strike? Or won't they risk 35? We are betting, gentlemen ... I would like to hear our Israeli comrades ..
    1. MoJloT
      MoJloT 9 September 2019 15: 32
      +4
      Is Israel already preparing its 35th to strike? Or won't they risk 35? We are betting, gentlemen ... I would like to hear our Israeli comrades ..
      Israel of course let the whisperer from such news, but they really do not consider the war with Iran, they are not so repulsed. The IDF is built on the assumption that its main enemy - the forces of guerilla and the main scenario - a conflict of low intensity, they even hypothetically do not consider the possibility of a big mess. Now, if the states get into a fight, Israel will hold the jacket.
      1. Zeev Zeev
        Zeev Zeev 9 September 2019 16: 32
        +2
        Once a year in Israel, exercises are held to break through layered defense using aircraft, artillery, engineering troops, tank troops, infantry and everything else. The Israeli Air Force is constantly training to overcome the again layered air defense system and conduct air battles at all ranges of destruction of their weapons. And so yes, we are not even hypothetically preparing for a big mess.
        1. MoJloT
          MoJloT 10 September 2019 11: 54
          0
          Once a year in Israel, exercises are held to break through layered defense using aircraft, artillery, engineering troops, tank troops, infantry and everything else.
          Calm down, no one will break through without us! Do you know where Iran is located? Where are you going to break?
          The Israeli Air Force is constantly training to overcome the again layered air defense system and conduct air battles at all ranges of destruction of their weapons.
          Fly somewhere, drop something, show a destroyed bike, puff out cheeks, etc., etc. You are constantly doing this.
          1. Zeev Zeev
            Zeev Zeev 10 September 2019 12: 03
            0
            Yeah. We also like to show the exploded Shells lol
            1. MoJloT
              MoJloT 10 September 2019 12: 26
              0
              "Armor"
              God be with them, where are you going to break?
              1. Zeev Zeev
                Zeev Zeev 10 September 2019 12: 34
                0
                Break through a fortified defense wherever required. This is a standard exercise in the interaction of military branches.
                1. MoJloT
                  MoJloT 10 September 2019 13: 46
                  0
                  Break through a fortified defense wherever required. This is a standard exercise in the interaction of military branches.
                  Can you intelligently answer something? Where, with whom, how much time .......
                  1. Zeev Zeev
                    Zeev Zeev 10 September 2019 14: 58
                    0
                    With whom it is necessary, so will it be.
                    1. MoJloT
                      MoJloT 10 September 2019 15: 04
                      0
                      With whom it is necessary, so will it be.
                      Chatter
                      1. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 10 September 2019 15: 11
                        0
                        No, it is argued that (quote):
                        "The IDF is built on the assumption that its main enemy is the guerrilla forces and the main scenario is a conflict of low intensity, they do not even hypothetically consider the possibility of a major mess" This is really chatter that has NO foundation.
                      2. MoJloT
                        MoJloT 10 September 2019 15: 19
                        0
                        this is real chatter, without any foundation
                        Dr. Eli Carmon is now very offended by you! If the best among you are nonsense, then what about everyone else))
                      3. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 10 September 2019 15: 22
                        0
                        I have no idea who Eli Carmona is, but he clearly does not know about the preparation of the IDF.
                        Or he speaks only about one side of the preparation of our army, missing all the others.
                      4. MoJloT
                        MoJloT 10 September 2019 15: 27
                        0
                        I have no idea who Eli Carmona is, but he clearly does not know about the preparation of the IDF.
                        Advisor to the Department of Defense laughing . I advise you to familiarize yourself with a very professional, competent strategist who has devoted his life to studying the issue. And you will never hear from him of drug addiction, we’ll supposedly break through, it’s patriotic vomiting for cannon fodder ...
                      5. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 10 September 2019 15: 31
                        0
                        And who wrote where we will break through, filling up machine guns with cannon fodder? We are fighting very differently.
                      6. MoJloT
                        MoJloT 10 September 2019 15: 34
                        0
                        filling up machine guns with cannon fodder
                        There is no question about this, you are asking a question with whom you are going to fight, where is the proposed theater of operations, for what period of time the company is designed, what are the goals .... All you can say
                        Break through a fortified defense anywhere
                        No.
                      7. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 10 September 2019 15: 45
                        0
                        We are preparing to fight against any enemy, and not just against guerilla in a low-intensity conflict. Moreover, we are preparing not hypothetically, but really.
                      8. MoJloT
                        MoJloT 10 September 2019 15: 50
                        0
                        We are preparing to fight against any enemy
                        I understand everything, there are no more questions for you laughing
                      9. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 10 September 2019 16: 03
                        0
                        And you continue to believe that the IDF does not know how to fight. feel
                      10. MoJloT
                        MoJloT 10 September 2019 16: 23
                        0
                        And you continue to believe that the IDF does not know how to fight
                        I respect the IDF, professional, courageous, motivated, well trained, and very very expensively equipped, the IDF is so precious that Israel is doomed without help in a month-long conflict of great intensity (but such a conflict is unlikely). Any army is preparing for a certain conflict, only "Zulus" remained in your theater, and you are imprisoned to fight with them, but it is very good to fight sparing no means.
                      11. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 10 September 2019 17: 01
                        0
                        Thank you, neighing laughing laughing laughing
                        I especially liked about the "very expensive equipment" wassat
                        I’ll tell you a little secret. We are preparing for any war. This is the Middle East, here tomorrow there may be another military coup or another change of situation, and the enemy will not be Hamas, but Egypt, which has a large and well-armed army. Or Turkey, which wants to restore the Ottoman Empire. Or Iran, which will transfer troops to Syria through the generally friendly Shiite Iraq. It goes without saying that Israel by all means (not only military) will prevent such a development of events, and even more so a long conflict, because the most important thing for our country is people, but to consider that we are not ready for it is a big mistake.
                        By the way, until recently, the Israeli army was armed with long-range anti-tank missiles Tammuz (SPIKE-NLOS) based on M113. So, according to the standard, the battery of such vehicles was supposed to stop a tank division in 12 minutes. These vehicles were removed from service, not because there are no targets for them, but because now there are other chassis (and other, more advanced missiles). And the Israeli Air Force does not hunt for the Zulu, but shoot down / bomb / storm, including targets protected by air defense. By the way, in Syria this was perfectly shown and more than once.
                      12. MoJloT
                        MoJloT 10 September 2019 17: 11
                        0
                        I especially liked about the "very expensive equipment" wassat
                        In recalculation of the military budget for one soldier, it turns out 960 million rubles a year, for example, in approximately the same population of the country Ganduras 000 000. There is something to laugh at!
                        Ottoman Empire. Or Iran, which will transfer troops to Syria through the generally friendly Shiite Iraq.
                        Enough propaganda, it doesn’t roll here.
                        And the Israeli Air Force is not to hunt for the Zulus, but to shoot down / bomb / storm, including those protected by air defense targets
                        on the example of those long-suffering "Zulus" laughing
                      13. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 10 September 2019 18: 11
                        0
                        960 million of your rubles per year should not be multiplied by the number of servicemen, by the cost of an F-16 flight hour, the number of shells fired at artillery fire, cartridges, solariums, even electricity for bases. The army spends money not only on an infantryman with unloading, a rifle and boots, she still has a dofig of other expenses.
                        By the way, cool in Syria "Zulus" with S-75/125/200/300, "Squares", "Buks", "Torah", "Armor" and a bunch of anti-aircraft artillery in addition. And all this is in a single air defense system with the Russian contingent.
                      14. MoJloT
                        MoJloT 11 September 2019 12: 32
                        0
                        the cost per hour of F-16 flight, the number of shells fired at artillery fire, ammunition, tanning salons, even electricity for bases. The army spends money not only on an infantryman with unloading, a rifle and boots, she still has a dofig of other expenses.
                        So this is what I had in mind that your dofig is being spent on the army, many times more than that of comparable states, the question is what conflict will have enough funds for such an expense.
                        By the way, cool in Syria "Zulus" with S-75/125/200/300, "Squares", "Buks", "Torah", "Armor" and a bunch of anti-aircraft artillery in addition.
                        There is no sense in air defense when you do not strike in response. Syria essentially has no army.
                        And all this is in a single air defense system with the Russian contingent.
                        That's not true.
                      15. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 11 September 2019 12: 41
                        0
                        1. And what are comparable states? By what principle is it considered?
                        2. Why air defense is useless? What a strange logic.
                        3. So the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is lying? It was she who stated that a unified air defense system has been created in Syria.
                      16. MoJloT
                        MoJloT 12 September 2019 10: 10
                        0
                        . And what are comparable states? By what principle is it considered?
                        By population
                        Why is the air defense useless? What a strange logic.

                        Air defense does not win.
                        Does the RF Ministry of Defense lie? It was she who stated that a unified air defense system has been created in Syria.
                        Exaggerates, in an attempt to at least somehow moderate the thirst for revenge for the shot down IL, such a type will not happen again. But we are 140 mil. You will never be forgiven. While we are fighting international evil, there are people who want to stab in the back with a knife, what kind of people they are.
                      17. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 12 September 2019 10: 25
                        0
                        Belarus is comparable in population with Israel. What fleet does RB have, what aviation? What is the GDP?
                        Air defense war and should not win. It is designed to protect against enemy aircraft. With this, the Syrian air defense can not cope.
                        About the IL-20. It was not Israel that shot him down, it was not Israel that sent him into the zone of dense anti-aircraft fire. And whatever the nightingales of the General Staff sang, there was no trace of Israeli aircraft that were "covered by the Russian". Do not consider the Israeli pilots and their command idiots, who will spin for 40 minutes for some unknown reason in the range of the air defense system.
                      18. MoJloT
                        MoJloT 12 September 2019 10: 32
                        0
                        Belarus is comparable in population with Israel. What fleet does RB have, what aviation? What is the GDP?
                        Belarus is bigger in every way. Papua New Guinea, Austria, Honduras are more suitable.
                        And that the nightingales of the General Staff would not sing
                        Israel, was there a raid?
                        It is not necessary to consider the Israeli pilots and their command as idiots who will spin for 40 minutes for some reason in the reach of the air defense system.
                        They are not [quote] [/ quote], but criminals, this is done specifically to expose our plane to fire. If you believe Wikipedia, hide behind the standard tactics of your Air Force.
                      19. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 12 September 2019 10: 58
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                        The population of Belarus is 9.4 million. Israel is almost 9 million. And despite the much larger amount of agricultural land, water, even minerals, and simply a larger size, Belarus is inferior to Israel in all economic, military, political and many other indicators.
                        The attack on the Iranian factory of precision missiles in the province of Latakia was. After the strike, our planes just flew home, and by the time of the defeat of the IL-20 they were drinking coffee at the Ramat David base. Or do you think that the Air Force headquarters are no longer seated, but quite prophets who, with God's help, learned that the Russian command would send a plane from Aleppo (this is for a second, the other end of Syria) and therefore left the four planes circling among flying in all directions air defense missiles?
                        By the way, what kind of stories are there about the cover of other people's planes?
                      20. MoJloT
                        MoJloT 12 September 2019 11: 09
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                        The population of Belarus is 9.4 million. Israel is almost 9 million.
                        Almost 1mil. less for Israel is a huge difference.
                        do you think that the prophets are no longer sitting at the headquarters of the air force, but rather prophets
                        IL-20 is very clearly visible, there is no need to be a prophet.
                        By the way, what kind of stories are there about the cover of other people's planes?
                        I've already laid out how, where, when, and what kind of Israeli Air Force planes were covering up, they won’t search again.
                      21. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 12 September 2019 11: 24
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                        Less than half a million. And this figure includes Belarusians permanently working abroad, but does not include the Arabs of Judea and Samaria (who work in Israeli enterprises).
                        And the fact that the IL-20 will trample by order of the anti-aircraft fire zone is also clearly visible? Or was it more logical to redirect it to Damascus or T4? Or even put away from sin away in Aleppo.
                      22. MoJloT
                        MoJloT 12 September 2019 11: 38
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                        And the fact that the IL-20 will trample by order of the anti-aircraft fire zone
                        This is not the IL-20 trapped in the anti-aircraft fire zone, this is the Israeli Air Force redirected anti-aircraft fire to the IL-20
                        Or was it more logical to redirect it to Damascus or T4?
                        The most logical thing is to fulfill the agreements, and not formally, but really and warn Russia about the preparation of the next act of aggression, forgive Syria.
                      23. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 12 September 2019 12: 04
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                        That is, the Israeli Air Force also control the Syrian air defense? Well, damn we are cool ...
                        During the Israeli attack, the IL-20 was over Aleppo. After the Israeli attack, a very smart command ordered the crew to fly to Latakia (what for, I personally did not understand). The flight took more than half an hour. All this time, the Syrian air defense fired in all directions, and to find out, it was enough to look out the window or go to Twitter, where they posted online videos of anti-aircraft missile launches. Do you really think that all this time there were four fighters hanging around waiting for the RTR plane? Despite the fact that ten minutes after the strike, four F-16s passed over the city of Kiryat Yam from the sea towards Ramat David.
                      24. MoJloT
                        MoJloT 12 September 2019 13: 06
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                        That is, the Israeli Air Force also control the Syrian air defense?
                        Air defense shoots at airplanes to where they fly.
                        the order to the crew to fly to Latakia (what for, I personally did not understand)
                        What were yours doing there also violating the agreement (what for, I personally did not understand).
                      25. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 12 September 2019 13: 09
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                        Ours there bombed a rocket factory. By warning the Russians five minutes before the attack. According to the agreement.
                        And the plane flew there alone. Russian IL-20
                      26. MoJloT
                        MoJloT 12 September 2019 13: 15
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                        Ours there bombed a rocket factory.
                        Ours performed a combat mission there.
                        By warning the Russians five minutes before the attack. According to the agreement.
                        A warning was received about a minute before striking the target, not before the aircraft took off from the airfield, but count during the strike! The blood of our military in the hands of the IDF is surprising only the strange love of our leadership for Israel.
                      27. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 12 September 2019 13: 23
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                        And the IL-20 plane flew there in 40 minutes.
                      28. MoJloT
                        MoJloT 12 September 2019 13: 45
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                        IL-20 flew there in 40 minutes.
                        This version is exclusively for you. Until all those involved take the punishment they deserve, or as some characters suddenly begin to die all over the world (who broke their neck in Turkey, who ate a lot in Berlin's olives park, who crashed in a car ..., well, you know)), this will be always a stumbling block.
                      29. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 12 September 2019 17: 11
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                        This is a version of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. It was they who talked about this.
                      30. MoJloT
                        MoJloT 13 September 2019 10: 18
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                        MO RF
                        all blame for the reconnaissance aircraft Il-20 shot down in Syria lies with the Israeli Air Force. Israeli Air Force misled the Russian side about the strike area in Syria on the day of the crash of IL-20. During the talks, a representative of the Israeli Air Force headquarters said that the goals for which it is planned to strike with Israeli aircraft are in northern Syria. The Israeli pilot could not fail to understand that the effective reflective surface of the Il-20 aircraft significantly exceeds the similar surface of the F-16 fighter and that the Russian aircraft would be the preferred target for the F-16 anti-aircraft missile to maneuver closer to the Il-20, which was perceived by the Syrian air defense as Attempted second attack. Israeli planes did not go into their airspace, but remained in the same area and continued on duty in the air until 22.40 p.m. representative of the Israeli Air Force headquarters said that the goals for which it is planned to strike with Israeli aircraft are in northern Syria
                      31. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 13 September 2019 17: 34
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                        And here your Ministry of Defense is lying stupidly to cover up your own incompetence.
                      32. MoJloT
                        MoJloT 13 September 2019 17: 41
                        -1
                        The Ministry of Defense is lying stupidly to cover up its own incompetence.
                        Or your Defense Ministry is lying stupidly to cover up your own cynicism and cannibalism.
                      33. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 13 September 2019 17: 44
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                        Our Ministry of Defense does not engage in such stupidity. If it had been lurking, then general’s heads would have flown faster than the wind.
                      34. MoJloT
                        MoJloT 13 September 2019 17: 52
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                        laughing Moved to practice the proof of their innocence minuses?)))
                      35. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 13 September 2019 18: 15
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                        For some reason I can neither plus nor minus. So that’s not the topic.
                      36. MoJloT
                        MoJloT 13 September 2019 18: 03
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                        general’s heads would fly faster than the wind.
                        This is on condition that he was not assigned such a task from the top.
                      37. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 13 September 2019 18: 16
                        0
                        Then the prime minister would fly. At the elections. Not for the fact that the Russians were shot down, few people are interested. And for stupidity. But Bibi will not even blame his opponents for stupidity.
                      38. svp67
                        svp67 13 September 2019 17: 45
                        -1
                        Quote: MoJloT
                        Or your Defense Ministry is lying stupidly to cover up your own cynicism and cannibalism.

                        Forgot to add: "Hallie Likely"
                      39. MoJloT
                        MoJloT 13 September 2019 17: 52
                        0
                        Forgot to add: "Hallie Likely"
                        Mutually!)
      2. taurtaurov
        taurtaurov 9 September 2019 18: 28
        -3
        Quote: MoJloT
        Is Israel already preparing its 35th to strike? Or won't they risk 35? We are betting, gentlemen ... I would like to hear our Israeli comrades ..
        Israel of course let the whisperer from such news, but they really do not consider the war with Iran, they are not so repulsed. The IDF is built on the assumption that its main enemy - the forces of guerilla and the main scenario - a conflict of low intensity, they even hypothetically do not consider the possibility of a big mess. Now, if the states get into a fight, Israel will hold the jacket.

        Israel bombed the nuclear reactors of Iraq and Syria without the help of the United States, and now they will have no choice with the United States or alone
    2. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 9 September 2019 15: 34
      +5
      The Israeli comrades themselves did not risk it in the same 2012, but now even more so, unless the whole burden of Iran’s retaliatory strike rests on the shoulders of the United States, Great Britain and the Arab NATO, then you can still try. But Israel does not face off against Iran will pull.
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 9 September 2019 16: 00
        +1
        Quote: Sky Strike fighter
        But Israel will not pull a one-on-one war with Iran.

        I didn’t talk about a large-scale war, I talked about trying to deliver targeted attacks on Iran’s nuclear facilities - this has already happened absolutely in the Israeli military concept - deterring the enemy with the help of strikes (air, missile, special forces units) on important targets in order to slow down or stop its expansion and (or) development.
        1. MoJloT
          MoJloT 9 September 2019 16: 06
          +5
          I did not talk about a large-scale war, I talked about trying to target the Iranian nuclear facilities
          Why, then, Iran will not strike at Israeli nuclear facilities? Now is not the 60s, Israel is a tiny state, modern means will reach any point.
          1. KVU-NSVD
            KVU-NSVD 9 September 2019 16: 12
            +4
            Quote: MoJloT
            Why, then, Iran will not strike at Israeli nuclear facilities? Now is not the 60s, Israel is a tiny state, modern means will reach any point.

            Actually, I’m not an Ayatollah and I won’t be able to give a correct answer. Probably not sure about the results, maybe they think that it’s not the time yet, maybe the inevitable large-scale answer is not in Iran’s interests.
        2. Sky strike fighter
          Sky strike fighter 9 September 2019 16: 08
          +1
          I didn’t talk about a large-scale war, I talked about trying to deliver targeted attacks on Iran’s nuclear facilities - this has already happened absolutely in the Israeli military concept - deterring the enemy with the help of strikes (air, missile, special forces units) on important targets in order to slow down or stop its expansion and (or) development.

          This concept will not work with Iran, it is not Iraq. And Iran will respond to this in the same way that Israel would respond to this if someone would strike at its nuclear facilities (Israel), which means a large-scale war cannot be avoided with such a development of events. Do you understand this?
          1. MoJloT
            MoJloT 9 September 2019 16: 12
            +1
            which means a large-scale war cannot be avoided with such a development of events. Do you understand this?
            Yes, it’s clear, where do you think armored armadas will converge?
            1. Sky strike fighter
              Sky strike fighter 9 September 2019 16: 23
              +3
              Yes, it’s clear, where do you think armored armadas will converge?

              So now is not the time of World War II with their armored armada, but the 21st century in the yard, which means that everything will begin and end with the armada of the Kyrgyz Republic and the BRYU, and most likely with special units on both sides, it was not in vain that Satanovsky said in his recent interview that everything is now going to a nuclear war in the Middle East. He is aware of something.
              1. MoJloT
                MoJloT 9 September 2019 16: 30
                0
                So it will all begin and end with the armada of the Kyrgyz Republic and the BRYU, and most likely with special parts on both sides
                Those. they’ll shoot, they’ll disperse until the next time, it’s constantly there, it doesn’t draw on a large-scale conflict ... But about the special parts it’s fantastic.
                1. Sky strike fighter
                  Sky strike fighter 9 September 2019 16: 41
                  0
                  Quote: MoJloT
                  So it will all begin and end with the armada of the Kyrgyz Republic and the BRYU, and most likely with special parts on both sides
                  Those. they’ll shoot, they’ll disperse until the next time, it’s constantly there, it doesn’t draw on a large-scale conflict ... But about the special parts it’s fantastic.

                  Nuclear war, do you think they will shoot disperse?
                  In the future, tensions between them will result in a massive Israeli strike against Iran. Most likely, the conflict will turn into a nuclear war, the political scientist believes.

                  “You see, if you constantly tell your neighbor that you will shoot him, the neighbor will finally believe you. Moreover, if at the same time you will carry a gun and ammunition home, ”Satanovsky emphasized.

                  Summing up, the expert said that in the current situation there is no bad and good solution, there is "bad, catastrophic and apocalypse." Israel, knowing full well that it’s not worth waiting for help from the international community, will defend itself at all costs ....
                  Source: https://politexpert.net/163594-satanovskii-ozhidaet-yadernoi-voiny-na-blizhnem-vostoke-iz-za-konflikta-irana-i-izrailya
                  1. MoJloT
                    MoJloT 9 September 2019 16: 53
                    +2
                    Most likely, the conflict will turn into a nuclear war
                    Only if the IRGC seizes Tel Aviv, in other cases, the consequences for Israel will not be acceptable. In short, fairy tales are all. No one needs this war, and they will not turn verbal diarrhea into nuclear purgatory.
                  2. Mestny
                    Mestny 9 September 2019 16: 58
                    0
                    Quote: Sky Strike fighter
                    Israel, knowing full well that it’s not worth waiting for help from the international community, will protect itself at all costs ....

                    Do Israel really dislike the world community?
                    That's interesting - why? Why do they dislike them so much?
                    1. Zeev Zeev
                      Zeev Zeev 9 September 2019 17: 35
                      -2
                      We are not "loved" because the main supplier of oil to Europe is the Islamic world, and migrants from Islamic countries make up a considerable and very active part of the population of Europe.
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          3. taurtaurov
            taurtaurov 9 September 2019 18: 36
            -1
            Quote: Sky Strike fighter
            I didn’t talk about a large-scale war, I talked about trying to deliver targeted attacks on Iran’s nuclear facilities - this has already happened absolutely in the Israeli military concept - deterring the enemy with the help of strikes (air, missile, special forces units) on important targets in order to slow down or stop its expansion and (or) development.

            This concept will not work with Iran, it is not Iraq. And Iran will respond to this in the same way that Israel would respond to this if someone would strike at its nuclear facilities (Israel), which means a large-scale war cannot be avoided with such a development of events. Do you understand this?

            Something is not visible that he is responding to Iran, so far, no matter how we would like, Israel is driving Persians all over the BV, and in return they receive threats only in language
            1. Pissarro
              Pissarro 10 September 2019 02: 21
              0
              Israel persecutes the Persians exclusively in the Israeli propaganda reports. The Persians themselves do not know)
      2. Spambox
        Spambox 9 September 2019 17: 27
        -2
        I remember that Israeli comrades can be recorded as world champions in the destruction of nuclear facilities) If Iran were approaching the creation of a real bomb, I would not give a penny for the safety of the object. This is my purely evaluative judgment, but what is wrong?
    3. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 9 September 2019 17: 11
      -2
      "Is Israel already preparing its 35s to strike?" ////
      -----
      They already flew over Iran (over Tehran, missile bases) in March 2018 in reconnaissance flight.
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 9 September 2019 17: 15
        +2
        Quote: voyaka uh
        They already flew over Iran (over Tehran, missile bases) in March 2018 in a reconnaissance flight

        stated. that they flew ... I remember here a lot of copies about this were broken.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 9 September 2019 17: 19
          +2
          Now there are already 16. There will be 20. Until the new year, they were studied, run in long-distance raids on exercises and long-range combat bomb raids against militant bases in eastern Syria and near Baghdad. Larger operations can also be carried out.
          1. KVU-NSVD
            KVU-NSVD 9 September 2019 17: 31
            +3
            And if you get under the Iranian 300s and they drop the 35th? the damage to their reputation is not sickly.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 9 September 2019 17: 35
              +2
              In war as in war. Losses are inevitable. With a massive air raid, someone is shot down.
              No reputation damage is dealt if the raid objectives are completed. The F-35 is an ordinary "workhorse" to replace the F-16, which has been consistently written off.
              1. KVU-NSVD
                KVU-NSVD 9 September 2019 17: 41
                +2
                Quote: voyaka uh
                F-35 is an ordinary "workhorse"

                Well, here I do not agree. Rather, the sacred cow is a lot of PR for its advancement, invisibility and impunity. So, the possibility of loss will not be the last argument when deciding on the composition of a possible strike group.
                1. voyaka uh
                  voyaka uh 9 September 2019 17: 55
                  +4
                  F-35 WAS a sacred cow when the first planes arrived at the US Air Force, Israel.
                  It was a sensation.
                  Now they are saturated with the air forces of many countries. Used to it. There will certainly be some losses: both combat and non-combat. Like any military aircraft.
              2. Pissarro
                Pissarro 10 September 2019 02: 25
                +1
                If you drop 35th over Iran, then the Americans eat you with all the contents of your intestines. For the sake of such a gift, you can even sacrifice some object. Restore any object is not a problem, enemy technology is more expensive
          2. taurtaurov
            taurtaurov 9 September 2019 20: 17
            0
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Now there are already 16. There will be 20. Until the new year, they were studied, run in long-distance raids on exercises and long-range combat bomb raids against militant bases in eastern Syria and near Baghdad. Larger operations can also be carried out.

            As far as one can understand, all the same adir has a completely different filling for f35 than the American one, Israel and wings provide helmets for f35, so they can improve and install Israeli equipment on American planes
            1. Shahno
              Shahno 9 September 2019 20: 32
              +2
              But why. Our blade equipment, hydraulic drives, turbine disks .... So there is no current software and hardware. Coy experience what is available.
              We also make auxiliary installations for a well-known European company.
            2. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 9 September 2019 20: 53
              0
              "all the same adir is a completely different filling for f35" ////
              ----
              Not yet. While mounting other suspensions at the American plant
              and email connectors for Israeli weapons. That's all.
              Starting from 2020, the Israeli F-35 will have new additional sensors and additional software packages.
              And additional tanks.
              But the main software, all the source code remains common.
      2. Zeev Zeev
        Zeev Zeev 9 September 2019 17: 39
        0
        They didn’t seem to fly over Tehran. We walked along the borders and near the nuclear centers in Fordo and Bushehr in order to assess the possibility of a strike. In Tehran there were our agents who stole the archive of the development of an implosive nuclear bomb. By the way, the IAEA inspectors found traces of uranium.
      3. Pissarro
        Pissarro 10 September 2019 02: 22
        0
        Do they really believe in this bullshit in Israel?
  5. Operator
    Operator 9 September 2019 15: 25
    -1
    Plus one Iranian centrifuge = minus one Israeli Jew who moved for permanent residence overseas laughing
  6. Thrifty
    Thrifty 9 September 2019 15: 46
    +3
    Want to survive in this world - have nuclear weapons in stock!
  7. sanya_sergant
    sanya_sergant 9 September 2019 16: 06
    +4
    Everything, Uncle Sam, sailed.
    Iran put a bolt on you. Special ammunition will be acquired and the end of your rule in the Gulf region will be acquired. And the Turkish Sultan, which is worse than the Persian Shah? He, too, will need nuclerenbaton, and urgently.
    Here, they would ask the Russians for help, because they don’t really need someone else’s atomic bombs at their borders, but they quarreled with them because of their Crimea, they’re unlikely to help, they’ll rather say - you need to, think about what to do, and we'll see how you do it.
    And the whole world is at stake. Hegemony is floating away slowly.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 9 September 2019 16: 12
      +1
      Quote: sanya_sergant

      And the whole world is at stake. Hegemony is floating away slowly.

      Um. Hegemony is generally on the economy. China generally twists everyone with money.
    2. maden.usmanow
      maden.usmanow 9 September 2019 18: 50
      -1
      The United States had a much more difficult situation during the Cold War.

      And the GDR, Korea, Vietnam, the socialists in Latin America, the strong pro-Soviet Arabs.
  8. Zeev Zeev
    Zeev Zeev 9 September 2019 16: 36
    -3
    Well, that means that an epidemic of lead poisoning among nuclear physicists will begin in Tehran, and at nuclear facilities elevators will burn again, computers will fail, and the centrifuge will be destroyed.
    1. MoJloT
      MoJloT 9 September 2019 17: 05
      +3
      Criminal Code of the Russian Federation Article 205.2.
      1. Zeev Zeev
        Zeev Zeev 9 September 2019 17: 30
        -4
        I am not a citizen of the Russian Federation, and I do not call for violent actions designed to intimidate the population or influence the decisions of the authorities of the Russian Federation or international organizations. The government of the Islamic Republic of Iran is not a subject of Russian law, but a regime that came to power as a result of a violent unlawful coup, violating the fundamental rights of an individual. Accordingly, the operations against such a government and its authorities (unlike similar actions against the people of Iran) are not terrorism.
        1. dauria
          dauria 9 September 2019 21: 07
          +1
          but by the regime that came to power as a result of a violent unlawful coup


          Wow ... So the United States comes under that sweet definition. A handful of separatist conspirators separated from the British crown and started a war. So (yours or words)
          Accordingly, the operations against such a government and its authorities are not terrorism.
          wink
          1. Zeev Zeev
            Zeev Zeev 9 September 2019 21: 46
            -1
            In 1776, the world lived a little different than now.
      2. Sky strike fighter
        Sky strike fighter 9 September 2019 17: 55
        -1
        Quote: MoJloT
        Criminal Code of the Russian Federation Article 205.2.

        You should not have started this. Comrade Zeev Zeev will condemn you in this article. He may.
        1. MoJloT
          MoJloT 10 September 2019 13: 43
          0
          Comrade Zeev Zeev will condemn you in this article.
          The precinct will figure it out.
  9. Dmitry Gundorov
    Dmitry Gundorov 9 September 2019 16: 52
    +2
    Just the targets for the B-21 tests
  10. bald
    bald 9 September 2019 17: 08
    +2
    Do it right. This is not a threat to Russia, but even in the future. But the mouth, shut up many. The main observance of many norms related to nuclear weapons.
  11. E.S.
    E.S. 9 September 2019 18: 00
    0
    Quote: Zeev Zeev
    Well, that means that an epidemic of lead poisoning among nuclear physicists will begin in Tehran, and at nuclear facilities elevators will burn again, computers will fail, and the centrifuge will be destroyed.

    And the unnatural idea that this game can be played together does not occur to anyone?
    1. Zeev Zeev
      Zeev Zeev 9 September 2019 21: 48
      -1
      And the Persians have long been playing this game. Only they are not engaged in war, but terror against the civilian population of Israel at the hands of their puppets.
  12. APASUS
    APASUS 9 September 2019 19: 04
    0
    Whether Iran will install a centrifuge or not, it doesn’t matter. The USA has already said it, Iran is to blame!
  13. Old26
    Old26 9 September 2019 19: 09
    +4
    Quote: Sky Strike fighter
    ut and some do not need to recommend. Turkey already seems to be working on nuclear weapons and does not hesitate to declare it openly, given their close relations with Pakistan, there is nothing surprising in this. It is interesting why no one is commenting on this? Everything seemed to have gotten into your mouth . And where is this IAEA?

    Well, most likely that the work, if they began to be conducted, does not violate the regime of non-proliferation of nuclear weapons and are at the level of theoretical research. After all, between the phrase
    Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, during his lengthy speech at the Central Anatolian Economic Forum in Sivas, made an extremely important statement and said that Turkey, in his opinion, should have nuclear weapons and some work had even begun in this direction.

    very big distance. You can talk about a lot, but without a nuclear infrastructure - this is just a bluff. And he has no infrastructure. Nuclear power is only in its infancy. In addition, why did Erdogan say this? he wants to protect his country from neighbors (the same Israel or Iran). But for some reason, when it comes to Iran, everyone is ready to vote so that they have nuclear weapons. Only because he is against the United States, and as many here at the VO say, only nuclear weapons will save Iran from the fate of Iraq.
    Let us nevertheless apply the same principles to all countries. And then some double standards turn out. Iran can, Turkey cannot. Let's still be consistent: or nuclear weapons To no one, or let's break the nonproliferation treaty and let ALL acquire nuclear weapons. But then it is worth remembering that for some countries we are enemies (Ukraine, Georgia). Let us also allow them to have nuclear weapons for protection against Russia, like Iran for protection against the USA?

    Quote: MoJloT
    Why, then, Iran will not strike at Israeli nuclear facilities? Now is not the 60s, Israel is a tiny state, modern means will reach any point.

    The gut is thin. Any strike, especially on Israeli nuclear facilities, will entail very dire consequences for Iran. And not because the United States will sign for Israel or Israel itself will strike back. The question is, whoever strikes first is often the one to blame.
    Moreover, given that the Iranian missiles are not very accurate, it is possible that the strike will not hit the facilities of Israel's nuclear industry, but populated areas. And Iran will not be forgiven for that. Neither Israel and the United States, nor everyone else. If you want (and most importantly you can) inflict "surgical blows" - do it. Winners are often not judged. And if, instead of a nuclear complex, missile warheads fall on civilians, Iran will be named guilty

    Quote: Spambox
    I remember that Israeli comrades can be recorded as world champions in the destruction of nuclear facilities) If Iran were approaching the creation of a real bomb, I would not give a penny for the safety of the object. This is my purely evaluative judgment, but what is wrong?

    A moot point. The thing is what kind of objects are in question. Some of them are underground and for their destruction, sufficiently powerful anti-bunker bombs are needed. Parts such as the Bushehr power station may be hit, as are the research centers in Tehran and the heavy water reactor in Arak ...

    Quote: KVU-NSVD
    And if you get under the Iranian 300s and they drop the 35th? the damage to their reputation is not sickly.

    Well, under the "300-ki" still need to get.
    1. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 9 September 2019 21: 35
      +1
      In addition, why did Erdogan say this? he wants to protect his country from neighbors (the same Israel or Iran).

      Syria also wants to defend itself against a neighbor like Turkey. Well, what if Syria has nuclear weapons, isn't it?
      Let us nevertheless apply the same principles to all countries.

      Do you propose to divide nuclear weapons between all countries of the world in equal quantities?
      And then some double standards turn out. Iran can, Turkey cannot. Let us nevertheless be consistent: either ANYONE with nuclear weapons, or let's break the non-proliferation treaty and allow ALL to acquire nuclear weapons.

      The United States is possible, but Cuba and Venezuela cannot. Disorder. Turkey will be torn to pieces for a real attempt to acquire nuclear weapons, since this is not in the interests of the United States and Israel, but Turkey is much more dependent on the West economically and technologically than Iran, which is accustomed and adapted to sanctions, behind which China is standing. for all the good in the world, completely divorced from reality. By the way, a quote about the fact that the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Can you imagine what chaos and mochilovo will go after the fulfillment of your intentions around the world?
      But then it is worth remembering that for some countries we are enemies (Ukraine, Georgia). Let us also allow them to have nuclear weapons for protection against Russia, like Iran for protection against the USA?

      For DNR, LNR, Abkhazia and South Ossetia, nuclear weapons are also worth
      let yourself know for protection from whom by your logic?
  14. Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 9 September 2019 22: 35
    +1
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Quote: Greg Miller
    The Iranian leadership understands that with nuclear weapons in the arsenal they are in the future - Iran, and without it in the future - Iraq ....

    Um. Recommend Ukraine to create nuclear weapons?

    It’s unrealistic, it simply doesn’t need anyone - why give nuclear weapons to an unfinished, torn state (if Ukraine can be called a state)? I think even in the USA they understand this. Give Ukraine the opportunity to create nuclear weapons and then shake with fear that some Turchinov will start a nuclear war? I think there are no fools. On the US side, it’s better to have a sane opponent than a crazy ally.
    1. Pissarro
      Pissarro 10 September 2019 02: 35
      0
      You write like it’s easy to create nuclear weapons. For Turkey and Iran, in theory, this is possible for decades, for Ukraine it is impossible in principle. About the fact that at one time Syria or Iraq tried to create nuclear weapons, tales for dummies who do not have the slightest idea about the essence of the issue.
  15. Old26
    Old26 10 September 2019 18: 24
    +2
    Quote: Sky Strike fighter
    Do you propose to divide nuclear weapons between all countries of the world in equal quantities?

    Of course not. This "division" would be the beginning of the end of civilization. After all, a "microcountry" with 3-4 charges will not have brakes a priori. And it will want to use such weapons to conquer the neighboring microspace with the same nuclear arsenal. And that will be the beginning of the end. And I want not only to live the rest of my days myself, seeing the greenery of the Stavropol Territory outside the window, and not to spend my days in a bunker or basement, but I want my grandchildren to enjoy this beauty. So that the landscape outside the window was not a plain scorched by nuclear explosions, but the green of fields and hills, and that clothes were normal clothes, and not an OZK with a gas mask.
    Let's dwell on what is. There are currently 9 countries with nuclear capabilities. Five of them are considered "legitimate" possessors of nuclear weapons. What to do if half a century ago, politicians decided to divide the world into "clean" and "unclean". Some according to this criterion have the legal right to have nuclear weapons, the rest are considered "illegally possessing". But what happened was. Why still multiply entities. Why increase the number of nuclear countries.
    Today Iran wanted it, tomorrow - Saudi Arabia, the day after tomorrow Turkey, then Japan, South Korea, Germany will decide to acquire nuclear weapons. Then another dozen or two countries. No, my opinion is that this must end. Therefore, as I wrote a few earlier, there are two options - "either-or". Or nuclear weapons to anyone, except for those who now have them, or to the dump the treaty on the nonproliferation of nuclear weapons and nuclear weapons for everyone who wants to have it.

    Quote: Sky Strike fighter
    The United States is possible, but Cuba and Venezuela cannot. Disorder.

    Exactly so, if we allow now the same Iran to become the next owner of nuclear weapons. The agreement may not be immediately, but it will be scrapped. Than then such powerful industrial states as Japan, South Korea, Germany will be worse than the same Iran. Or is Iran "more equal" among equal countries? Moreover, the same Japan has an adversary with nuclear weapons (DPRK), and the same South Korea.

    Quote: Sky Strike fighter
    Turkey will be torn to pieces for a real attempt to acquire nuclear weapons, since this is not in the interests of the United States and Israel, but Turkey is much more dependent on the West economically and technologically than Iran, accustomed and adapted to sanctions, behind which China is behind.

    It is difficult to say what will happen in Turkey and how it will be torn to pieces or not. So far, the statements of its president are more of a bluff and PR. Turkey has no industrial potential, not scientific. But what will happen in 5-10 years? Will the regime in Turkey change and won't pro-American circles come to power? And to have an additional counterbalance to the same nuclear Iran (God forbid this happens) will be by no means superfluous for the Americans.
    As the phrase was once read in one of the fantastic stories. The confrontation between the USSR and the USA in the orbit of Saturn, armed conflicts, but when an enemy appears, attacking the spacecraft of both countries at the end of the narrative, both the Russian and the American are in the crew of the combat spaceship. "When a real enemy appears, all minor conflicts fade into the background"
    So it is here. There will be a nuclear Iran - perhaps there will be a nuclear Turkey and nuclear Saudi Arabia. And I do not think that the contradictions between Turkey and Israel, or Saudi Arabia and Israel will be such that they do not become a united front against nuclear Iran. This is exactly the situation "When a real enemy appears, all minor conflicts fade into the background". Before such a threat, even former enemies will unite ....

    Quote: Sky Strike fighter
    Can you imagine what chaos and mochilovo will go after the fulfillment of your intentions around the world?

    This is not my intention. This is a promising forecast for the world when someone is now allowed to have nuclear weapons. Then why not another. Why not Japan, Germany, the same Cuba or Venezuela, Argentina or Georgia. Why? I repeat. If we want to prevent future nuclear powers from appearing in the future and not lower the threshold for the possible use of nuclear weapons, we must make every effort to prevent the emergence of new nuclear countries. If someone is unbearable and they vote for a nuclear Iran, then we must understand that in the future there may be nuclear Georgia and nuclear Ukraine ....

    Quote: Sky Strike fighter
    For DNR, LNR, Abkhazia and South Ossetia, nuclear weapons are also worth
    let yourself know for protection from whom by your logic?

    This is for the same reasoning. Or or. Or anyone else, or everyone ...

    Quote: Pissarro
    You write like it’s easy to create nuclear weapons. For Turkey and Iran, in theory, this is possible for decades, for Ukraine it is impossible in principle. About the fact that at one time Syria or Iraq tried to create nuclear weapons, tales for dummies who do not have the slightest idea about the essence of the issue.

    No, the creation of nuclear weapons is a rather complex technical problem. But at present there are several dozen countries in the world (10-15 years ago, a list of about 30 such countries was published on the website of the well-known organization Bellona), the so-called threshold countries. Which within a few years will be able to create nuclear weapons. For Turkey it is very distant prospect... For Iran - if it is not stopped - this is a period of several years. In the middle of this year, there was a speech by the Iranian head of their atomic program, who announced the following figures. Before the conclusion of the agreement between Iran and the Six, Iran had about 25000 centrifuges of the first and second generation (IR-1, IR-2, IR-2a). These are their mass-produced centrifuges. By 2019 and with the withdrawal from the US agreement, according to the agreement, Iran had about 5000-6000 centrifuges. Iran needs about a year, perhaps a year and a half, to launch a series of newer generation centrifuges - IR-4, IR-5, IR-6, IR-7 in the amount of about 60 units (as of September 000, they have already installed about 2019 IR- centrifuges 22, 4 IR-1 centrifuge, 5 IR-30 centrifuges and 6 IR-3 centrifuges After that, it will take about 7 months for these centrifuges to reach 10 SWU (Separation Work Units). -190 charges, so the time until Iran becomes nuclear at best is estimated at about 000-1 years.
    Syria did not try to create nuclear weapons, but on its territory, with the help of specialists from at least North Korea, they tried to create a reactor to produce uranium. But the Israeli Air Force bombed the reactor before it was even launched.
    Work in Iraq on the creation of nuclear weapons was, of course, carried out, but the Iran-Iraq war put an end to these works. Now it’s not even possible to say what level Iraq has reached in these works. But before the creation of nuclear weapons he was very, very far away.