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They are shy about their party. Death of "United Russia"

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Project "ZZ". The Russian elections held on 8 of September excited the world press. And some experts even expressed the opinion about the death of the party in power in Russia, because its candidates were "conspiratorial" and went to the polls under other signs or as "independent". All this independence, of course, is sewn with white thread: the network is full of revelations.




At the bottom


The Russians visited 8 September at polling stations - voted in local elections. These same elections previously caused "almost the largest suppression of dissent by the police in the current decade." Opposition protests took place in Russia for several weeks, recalls Maria Georgieva in Moscow and agencies in a British newspaper «The Guardian».

Municipal and regional elections were held throughout the country, but the focus was on voting in Moscow: it was in the capital that potential independent candidates and their supporters were arrested and sent to prisons.

About 7,2 million people had the right to elect 45 legislators to the Moscow parliament, where the ruling United Russia party dominates today, the author writes further. At the same time, its candidates shy away from mentioning “United Russia”, since “the popularity of the party has reached the bottom”.

Aleksey Navalny, a journalist, “the most prominent of the opposition leaders in Russia,” notes, hoped to take advantage of popular discontent and called on his supporters to support his “smart vote” strategy. This means that it was necessary to mark in the ballots the candidate who would most likely defeat the pro-Kremlin nominee. “Today we are fighting to destroy the monopoly of United Russia,” Mr. Navalny explained his position.

They are shy about their party. Death of "United Russia"


According to analysts, the current vote is a test before the parliamentary elections to be held in 2021. A check will show whether the opposition is able to mobilize supporters. Also, the test will clarify "the willingness of the authorities to tolerate dissent."

Further, the publication cites the opinions of some Russians about the elections.

“Russia is not developing, we are trapped in corruption,” says 32-year-old Julia, who did not want to give her name. “I came here today to change that.” I voted for the communist to take away the voice from United Russia.

But 42-year-old Vadim Turinov, an IT consultant, abandoned Navalnov’s “smart vote” plan. “Why vote at all? These local elections have no meaning, ”he says.

31-year-old Lyubov Sobol, an investigative lawyer at the Navalny’s anti-corruption foundation, said Sunday’s vote showed that authorities stopped pretending to portray elections in Russia as democratic. Sobol considers such elections “even a semblance of democratic elections”.

In the publication L. Sobol is called the “key leader of the protest."

As the author of the article concludes, the United Russia party, created in 2001 “for the sake of supporting Putin,” has “lost its popularity” in recent years. One of the reasons for the loss of popularity is called the sanctions of the West.

Konstantin Haase, a political scientist at the Carnegie Moscow Center, in his opinion rests precisely on the economy. According to him, ultimately, the economy will decide the fate of Putin. “His approval rating drops when the economy is bad,” Haase told a reporter. “Putin’s biggest problem is that he could not defeat poverty.”



Will england reminding readers Washington Postthat the party "United Russia" officially "did not nominate a single candidate", also relies on the opinion of Mr. Haase.

The absence of the ruling party, says Konstantin Haase, "is a strong signal from the Kremlin that United Russia is actually dead." The political scientist remarked: "All her candidates are conspiratorial." True, anyone can go online and find out the truth: opposition sites expose these conspiracy figures as members of the "political apparatus of Putin."

In Moscow, according to Haase, the street protests themselves are a kind of moral victory. After the brutal suppression of the 27 protests in July, the Kremlin clearly retreated: after all, people "in the rest of the country" looked with hostility at the troops of the Ministry of the Interior and a new force in the form called "Rosguard". “This is a huge victory,” the political scientist said, because “neither the Kremlin nor the opposition itself” expected such a public reaction. In addition, all this seriously undermines the chances of Mayor Sergei Sobyanin, who approved the repression, to become Putin's successor, the scientist draws the following conclusion.

In all but one of the regions, the article notes, members of United Russia worked as "independent": their party brand became extremely unpopular in the country. But party support weakened faster than Putin’s support. However, his support among the people also decreased. Analysts believe that the latter is connected with the worsening situation in the economy, citizens' fatigue from corruption and in general the fact that many Russians think it is “political stagnation”. As for the "patriotic moods" that emerged after Crimea (2014), they too began to decline.



Return of the Living Dead


The same England in the same Washington Post in a report from Moscow, notes that candidates loyal to the Kremlin "have won for the most part." They won because in the elections "they practically did not encounter real opposition."

In Moscow, where weekly demonstrations took place in the summer, and the police carried out “brutal repressions,” if any violations were detected, it is likely “continued protests, as happened after the parliamentary elections in 2011, which were widely ridiculed as falsified,” the journalist writes further.

Roskomnadzor announced on Sunday that it had discovered political advertisements on Facebook, YouTube and Google; such election day advertising is illegal. The agency said that this was not the first time that it found such announcements, and suggested, the author writes, that he would consider them as interference by "foreign companies" in the sovereign affairs of Russia and as "obstruction of democratic elections." (Such a statement, we note in brackets, really took place. "These actions can be considered as interference in the sovereign affairs of Russia and obstructing the holding of democratic elections in the Russian Federation. Such actions by foreign companies are unacceptable," the Roskomnadzor told the journalist RBC.)

This day, Ingland notes in the Washington Post, brought “many reports of election fraud, most of which are not verifiable” (right up to the vote on “dead souls”).

Igor Borisov, a member of the Presidential Council for the Development of Civil Society and Human Rights, told Interfax that “there are no gross violations or infringements on voting rights,” the correspondent further points out. The head of the Central Election Commission Ella Pamfilova also speaks about the same. After the polls closed on Sunday evening, she told reporters: “We have not recorded serious violations that would cast doubt on the will of voters. At least we don’t know anything about such cases. ”

The election, the author recalls, was held in several dozen cities and regions of Russia. Acting governors who were appointed last year by Putin ran in some regions, and the results tend to show that these people get the vast majority.

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Recall the turnout at the Moscow City Duma elections, which for obvious reasons attracted special attention of the opposition and caused summer protests, made less than twenty-two percent, and Aleksey Venediktov, head of the Public Headquarters for Control and Monitoring of Elections, who is also deputy chairman of the Public Chamber of Moscow, said that there were no serious violations during the election.

A curious explanation for such a low turnout was given by the head of the Moscow City Commission Valentin Gorbunov. By his words, "Regions where something is very bad take a more active part in the vote."

So, we add, in Moscow everything is fine. So why Moscow opposition?

As for United Russia, it did not die, but won. At least Secretary General of the EP, Andrei Turchak сообщилthat in eleven of the twelve legislative assemblies of federal entities, "United Russia" receives the majority according to the election results. “Naturally, we are satisfied with the result, we get the majority everywhere,” he reported.
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  1. yehat
    yehat 9 September 2019 11: 04 New
    +77
    about the "death" of united Russia
    I found today that the next morning after the election, food chain chains amicably raised their prices, and for a number of items by 20-30%. Obviously, they were held until the election. I don’t understand one thing - how the people who own the administrative resource (and this is EDRo) have degraded to think that such tricks still work. Recently, Nabiullina talked about 4% inflation: og, I almost believe.
    recently bulk told how the deputy is grabbing. Sobyanina. Chubais in comparison with him is some kind of rogue.
    everything goes strictly according to Marx - degradation to the very edge and decomposition of the "top".
    we are no longer slipping, but literally flying towards the ugliest forms of capitalism.
    1. Loess
      Loess 9 September 2019 11: 13 New
      -12
      Quote: yehat
      I found today that the morning after the election, food chain chains amicably raised their prices, and for a number of positions by 20-30%

      If it’s no secret, how many chain stores did you manage to get around in the morning after the election?
      1. Campanella
        Campanella 9 September 2019 11: 30 New
        +59
        And you do not have inflation? Without 1 thousand they don’t go to the store anymore. It is only bread, milk, butter the most necessary.
        1. Loess
          Loess 9 September 2019 11: 35 New
          -65
          Quote: Campanella
          Without 1, thousands no longer go to the store. It is only bread, milk, butter

          Well, if you take all this in 5 copies, then perhaps you really can’t do without a thousand ...
          1. Campanella
            Campanella 9 September 2019 11: 48 New
            +33
            That's for sure, you can hold out on the pasta)))
            Bread 35 rub * 2 = 70 r
            Oil 120 rub pack
            Cheese 250 gr - 230 rubles
            Milk - 70 rub
            Kefir - 80 rubles
            Potato - 120 rub 3 kg
            APPLES - 120 rubles
            Bananas - 65 rub
            This is about a thousand rubles.
            1. Loess
              Loess 9 September 2019 11: 53 New
              -62
              Quote: Campanella
              This is exactly

              Is this your daily food package? And then your initial list was somewhat shorter ...
              1. Vladimir16
                Vladimir16 9 September 2019 12: 50 New
                -58
                As soon as the election losers realize their defeat, they start shouting about raising food prices, that the elections are not right (they say that all normal people didn’t vote), about raising the retirement age (earlier they had eaten all the money about the Olympics, a little later about Crimea, more about the Kramskoy bridge) that tigers do not report meat, the whole civilized world ..........

                And what remains for them (the loser)?
                Well, really not work! lol
                So crying about universal injustice spreads across the net. laughing

                Reverse side of the election:
                - by your vote you confirm the winner’s right to rule you.

                This is the foundation of democracy.

                I am not a supporter of democracy.
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                2. Alena Frolovna
                  Alena Frolovna 9 September 2019 13: 19 New
                  -21
                  Konstantin Haase, political scientist at the Carnegie Moscow Center: “Putin’s biggest problem is that he could not defeat poverty".

                  But this “political scientist” could name at least one country in the world where poverty has been defeated, where such smart and progressive leaders live. Something there is not a single leader about whom it can be said that he sun and warmed everyone.
                  1. Revival
                    Revival 9 September 2019 14: 18 New
                    +23
                    Pretty close: Liechtenstein, Netherlands, Denmark, Switzerland
                    1. Campanella
                      Campanella 9 September 2019 15: 00 New
                      +5
                      More Emirates in my opinion ...
                      1. Revival
                        Revival 9 September 2019 15: 03 New
                        -13
                        This is not the answer of the person who asked the question, that’s why the moonlings are powerless
                    2. Pilat2009
                      Pilat2009 9 September 2019 17: 14 New
                      +5
                      Quote: Revival
                      Liechtenstein, Netherlands, Denmark, Switzerland

                      In Norway, Sweden and Finland do not live well? In my opinion only in Eastern Europe is not so hot due to the late accession to the EU. Yes, Greece has problems because lazy
                      Quote: Campanella
                      More Emirates in my opinion

                      Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Libya before the Civil War
                      1. New Year day
                        New Year day 9 September 2019 18: 42 New
                        +24
                        Quote: Pilat2009
                        Yes, Greece has problems because lazy

                        The lazy and without oil and gas have a pension of 500 euros
                      2. let_nab
                        let_nab 10 September 2019 05: 54 New
                        -5
                        And do not tell the prices in euros in Greece?
                      3. New Year day
                        New Year day 10 September 2019 10: 06 New
                        +6
                        Quote: let_nab
                        And do not tell the prices in euros in Greece?

                        please!
                        Rating of countries by purchasing power per capita.
                        Greece - 44th place
                        Russia - 51 place
                        https://moshekam.livejournal.com/1910820.html
                      4. welder
                        welder 11 September 2019 14: 07 New
                        0
                        If you translate into rubles, it may be cheaper.
              2. WIKI
                WIKI 10 September 2019 00: 08 New
                +4
                Quote: Alena Frolovna
                But this “political scientist” could name at least one country in the world where poverty has been defeated, where such smart and progressive leaders live.

                Could you compare the poverty level in Russia and the EU in figures?
              3. naidas
                naidas 10 September 2019 13: 35 New
                +3
                Quote: Alena Frolovna
                where such smart and progressive leaders reside

                It’s easier to name countries where GDP has grown more since 2000 or as in Russia. Lower GDP grew in single countries like Somalia.
                1. Fan-fan
                  Fan-fan 10 September 2019 17: 46 New
                  -1
                  Hooray, at least we have furnished Somalia, well done.
              4. d1975
                d1975 10 September 2019 22: 30 New
                +2
                And to be honest, did he really try? Show the programs of other sensible parties that have been adopted, they are not! All edro captured, everything! For example, I probably will join the Liberal Democratic Party, but not in the EDRO! Everywhere, many say so, but not edro, if they call you home and say, did you vote? If your head of the department travels on election commissions, does the fool understand what she is doing there if the kindergartens are in the ranks? And you say ... ..Power ... ..! And the last, for especially stubborn patriots, how do we differ from Ukraine? The authorities really snickered, but for now they are holding us. But it’s good, it’s not where it is somewhere, but where the person lives now. And now, start to all start cons minuses!
            2. Campanella
              Campanella 9 September 2019 13: 23 New
              +36
              I supplement, you still prove that we voted for them! For example, I have never voted for Putin.
              Democracy is, above all, a transparent electoral system. What is happening here is not an election. It reminds me of a sincere confession after your kidneys have been beaten off.
              1. Saul_Rhen
                Saul_Rhen 9 September 2019 14: 50 New
                -38
                And I voted. And for him, and for EP. Like millions of others.
                1. Campanella
                  Campanella 9 September 2019 14: 58 New
                  +3
                  About millions you are strongly expressed. My father when he voted for him, I asked him: "Why"? He answered simply- "He pays me a pension!"
                  1. Saul_Rhen
                    Saul_Rhen 9 September 2019 15: 28 New
                    +3
                    Millions will be in any situation. Though with fraud, even without. You need to be very stubborn, thinking that EP or Putin are not gaining a majority. And the point here is not at all that they are good, or everyone loves them. It's just that the alternative is very rotten. Many more remember the "communist paradise" of the 80s and the "freedom" of the 90s. The Communist Party is the successor of the CPSU, whose competent leadership has ruined the country, and in the 90th Communist Party merged everything that is possible on the political arena. What can it give besides a rotten ideology, which the “communists" themselves have scored? President - an oligarch and a speculator? LDPR and SR - would have the right to life in the presence of at least some sane and permanent position. He personally had high hopes, but nothing good came of it, for he had scored only those who were engaged in self-promotion. LDPR is a party of one person, whom I respect, but again, for the whole party, he will not pull it out. Alyosha’s opposition is a typical “fight for the sake of fighting”. A party with a position of insignificance, which exists unclear due to what. Everything else - absolutely xs who. It's my opinion. I'm not going to convince anyone. And yes, I am not a member of the parties and did not consist.
                  2. Campanella
                    Campanella 9 September 2019 16: 40 New
                    +23
                    I could agree with you if I saw really honest and transparent elections. When the president was elected as power, the director of the state farm did not rinse, they even sewed crime ..
                    This behavior is not like the power that millions support.
                    After 82 years, it was no longer the USSR, but a dance on the carriages.
                    Rotten parties are the merit of the incumbent president, just like the power vertical that does not work. Zhirik the clown, who understood what he can build his carefree life on, is certainly not, but you can’t even call him a serious politician.
                  3. Saul_Rhen
                    Saul_Rhen 9 September 2019 16: 49 New
                    -14
                    I can not agree. No one did the Communist Party more harm than herself. It's time to bury this stewardess. And abandoning the 80s is stupid. This is a logical result of incompetent management for decades. And the president to the parties then what side? Does he need a sumum to write programs for them? Engage in their agitation? Pick up frames for them? Collect signatures for them?
                  4. Campanella
                    Campanella 9 September 2019 17: 07 New
                    +8
                    I do not disown, I remember that time very well. After Brezhnev’s death, a struggle for power began, and to put it mildly, there was no one to think about strategy.
                    The president pays them for loyalty, and sends revolutionaries to the bunks.
                  5. let_nab
                    let_nab 10 September 2019 06: 01 New
                    -5
                    .... probably you wanted to say after the death of Stalin, for the collapse of the country began just then, and no matter how regrettable you are, it was the GDP that stopped the further collapse of the country ...
                  6. Campanella
                    Campanella 10 September 2019 10: 28 New
                    +10
                    Not sure what he stopped.
                    Yes, he figured out separatism, but he did not solve the split in society. After all, the main problem of Russia is the stratification of society, and this is a mine that can work anytime.
                    And I personally do not see even attempts to rectify the situation. I need an ideology that would unite peoples, and an ideology where each for himself is the end of the state.
                  7. Fan-fan
                    Fan-fan 10 September 2019 17: 56 New
                    +3
                    Yes, he planted many mines under Russia, I’m afraid how his receiver will rake all this. For example, Syria - everything was hanging there so that there was no end, the Americans didn’t let anyone on the east coast of Euphrates, the Kurds and Turks captured their part of Syria.
                    In the Donbass, the same thing, no end in sight and the future prospects for the DNI and LC are unimportant.
                    But in Russia, do you think Putin will be remembered as the liberator of Crimea? No, he will more often be remembered as a robber of pensions and as a man who bred officials and oligarchs.
        2. let_nab
          let_nab 10 September 2019 05: 57 New
          -5
          ☝️
      2. Varyag71
        Varyag71 12 September 2019 14: 58 New
        0
        I have the same subordinates. Putin personally wrote them a pension. With such power and with such citizens no enemies are needed.
    2. Pax tecum
      Pax tecum 9 September 2019 15: 17 New
      +19
      The whole point ... And, it is not very pleasant.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 9 September 2019 20: 19 New
        +12
        Quote: Pax tecum
        And, it’s not very pleasant.

        Even the ice cream was escorted, and Putin did not take her change. the young lady has earned
      2. Disant
        Disant 10 September 2019 01: 48 New
        -11
        Sylvester, excuse me, but it is scratching straight to ask you: is it unpleasant for you that the ice-cream from escort or that it has earned on the surrender? I hasten to assure you that they showed on TV that they had bought ice cream for the rest of those present for delivery.
        The fact that the ice cream parlor there is no accident surprised you so unpleasantly? You just haven’t seen the ice cream cart from the bottom - there’s a folding tank
      3. Vanek
        Vanek 10 September 2019 04: 01 New
        +6
        Quote: Disant
        are you unpleasant that the ice cream from escort or the fact that she earned on the surrender?


        Yes to hell with her, with this change !!!

        The essence of the issue is far from surrendering !!!

        Characters !!!

        HERE! That is where the questions are.
      4. Campanella
        Campanella 10 September 2019 10: 49 New
        +3
        It's time to rename the Potemkin villages in Putin!
        Excessive "caution" painfully hits the prestige, despite the constant bravura stories on radio and TV. Putin is just sitting on a media needle. Take her away and his rated-cap!
      5. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 12 September 2019 19: 38 New
        -4
        What does not suit you? So that the saleswoman is possibly an employee of the FSO? So scream to get fired? Here are adult men, and such "news" is discussed. I apologize, maybe you don’t wear pants, but wear skirts?
      6. Leopold
        Leopold 12 September 2019 20: 28 New
        +1
        Are they playing bagpipes?
      7. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 13 September 2019 12: 32 New
        0
        Yes, they play, but not on bagpipes, on other wind musical instruments)))
  2. New Year day
    New Year day 10 September 2019 09: 54 New
    +6
    Quote: Disant
    Sylvester, excuse me, but it is scratching straight to ask you: is it unpleasant for you that the ice-cream from escort or that it has earned on the surrender?

    it is unpleasant that they lie! You probably have not read Peskov’s answer on this! He replied that this is due to the fact that MAKS is served by the same companies and the freezer is completely an outsider. The question is, in another, what the same faces represent the country's population on numerous trips of the president. Then the question is, why go? Why lie? Honestly, she is from the FSO, and everyone understands. No need to lie!
  3. Campanella
    Campanella 10 September 2019 10: 52 New
    0
    And they ate ice cream as simple as they poison us!)))
  4. Freeman
    Freeman 10 September 2019 12: 26 New
    +2
    Quote: Disant
    ... I hasten to assure you that on TV they showed that they had bought ice cream for the rest of those present for the change.


    Sorry, but "on TV" showed a "castrated" plot.
    “Ice cream” was not bought for “the rest of those present,” except for Erdogan.
    In fact, the entire change from the "5th" bill, according to the president, was handed over to the Minister of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov.
    With the wording - "On the development of aviation."



    Threat. The plot can be understood in different ways.
    As a "funny joke", as a "easy trolling of the minister" - and it is possible as an attitude to domestic industry.
  5. Campanella
    Campanella 10 September 2019 13: 47 New
    +2
    Under him, the aviation industry was ruined, when he realized that friends in the west did not need his company, he began to invest in the defense industry, he donated ice cream delivery to aviation!)))
    A very asphalt concrete joke.
    He would have said this to Manturov on diapers, he would have looked quite different. And so if you turn on the logic, Manturov asks for money not the development of aviation, but Putin refuses him all the time and then the case turned up ...)))
  6. Roman070280
    Roman070280 10 September 2019 12: 54 New
    0
    I think that it’s unpleasant for people to make sheep out of them ..
    Although, as we see, for some, on the contrary, this process is just pleasant .. Is this surprising ?? The question is rhetorical ..
  7. Campanella
    Campanella 10 September 2019 14: 00 New
    +5
    To him people are generally no sideways. He needs a retinue, she puts on a performance about a caring, intelligent power.
  8. Varyag71
    Varyag71 12 September 2019 15: 07 New
    -1
    people smoothly replaced by immigrants from Central Asia.
  9. Campanella
    Campanella 12 September 2019 21: 24 New
    +1
    The new teacher in kindergarten name is not believe Parvana
    Gasratovna
  10. AAK
    AAK 10 September 2019 08: 49 New
    +1
    A colleague, the money "for ice cream" was taken under the heading "operating expenses" and, accordingly, had to be surrendered, and the "girl", as a normal operational officer, does not violate financial discipline ... :))
  11. New Year day
    New Year day 10 September 2019 09: 56 New
    -2
    Quote: AAK
    ice cream money was taken under the item "operating expenses" and, accordingly, had to be surrendered

    and they took and ...
    Quote: Disant
    for delivery bought ice cream to the rest of those present.

    Not targeted budget spending, however! laughing
  12. Disant
    Disant 10 September 2019 01: 29 New
    -3
    The whole point ... And, it is not very pleasant.
    Alexander Pax Tecum, and why? How do you think should protect the first person of the state?
    apple-planting interview - two guards from nine present.
    What is wrong? and if de. beat which of the bushes will come out? and if, and if?
    interview with the fish soup and from the fishing longboat - here you cut the video well, but on the other hand, both fishermen are sitting on the longboat and on the bench with the fish soup. Will you give a link to the original or will you find the full version of the video yourself?
    to continue to discuss the mass gathering of people for some holiday?
    You understand, before you knowingly write that this is "the whole point", you expose yourself unsightly and substitute your beret
  13. let_nab
    let_nab 10 September 2019 07: 05 New
    +3
    Yes, he’s not in the house, that the first persons are guarded everywhere, and those who are not there are in the ground)
  14. New Year day
    New Year day 10 September 2019 10: 00 New
    0
    Quote: let_nab
    and those who are not in the ground)

    give examples of this incident
  15. Freeman
    Freeman 10 September 2019 12: 29 New
    +4
    Quote: Silvestr
    Quote: let_nab
    and those who are not in the ground)

    give examples of this incident

    Olof Palme, Prime Minister of Sweden.
    On February 28, 1986, Olof Palme was killed on the central street of Stockholm, Sveavägen. That day, he and his wife Lisbeth returned late at night from the Grand Cinema, located on 45 Sveavegen Street. There were no bodyguards with them, since Palma loved walking around the city without them.. When the couple approached the intersection with Tunnelgatan Street, a lone man came up to them and shot twice from a Smith-Wesson brand revolver. This murder is still unsolved and is one of the biggest mysteries of modern Sweden.
  16. New Year day
    New Year day 10 September 2019 18: 02 New
    -3
    Is that all? Then Kennedy remembered whom they had
  17. Freeman
    Freeman 10 September 2019 20: 05 New
    +5
    Quote: Silvestr
    Is that all? Then Kennedy remembered whom they had


    Kennedy was guarded, but not defended. The conversation was about those. who were not guarded.
  18. New Year day
    New Year day 10 September 2019 20: 13 New
    -4
    Quote: Freeman
    Kennedy guarded but not defended

    Do you believe in the accuracy of half-blind Oswald? My opinion is, who guarded, that pulnul. Therefore, how can you protect yourself from who should protect you?
    Quote: Freeman
    The conversation was about those. who were not guarded.

    one Swede gets it.
  19. Okolotochny
    Okolotochny 12 September 2019 19: 43 New
    0
    So poorly guarded. Commentators of the video probably want such a fate to the President of the Russian Federation.
  20. Okolotochny
    Okolotochny 12 September 2019 19: 41 New
    0
    John Kennedy, injured by Ronald Reagan. Enough or something else? Olof Palme, by the way, Premier of a prosperous country.
  21. Beringovsky
    Beringovsky 10 September 2019 12: 47 New
    +2
    apple-planting interview - two guards from nine present.

    Are you two? Similarly, others are not there?
    and if de. beat which of the bushes will come out?

    so let them sit in the bushes laughing
    besides, what kind of "enemies" there can be in the bushes, there you cannot go a kilometer there.
    both on the longboat and on the bench with the ear opposite the fishermen are sitting.

    and just waiting to pounce on Putin? that's so popular lol
    but why transfer the protection to fishermen, then to peasants, or to pilgrims? Why is this circus and masquerade?
    This disgrace is real ...
  22. Disant
    Disant 10 September 2019 15: 44 New
    0
    but why transfer the protection to fishermen, then to peasants, or to pilgrims? Why is this circus and masquerade?
    This disgrace is real ...

    Beringovsky, it seems to you that it’s a disgrace, but I am sympathetic, because, apparently, I understand
  23. New Year day
    New Year day 10 September 2019 20: 15 New
    -7
    Quote: Beringovsky
    but why transfer the protection to fishermen, then to peasants, or to pilgrims? Why is this circus and masquerade?

    what are we talking about. And it turns out
    Quote: Beringovsky
    ... disgrace ...
  24. Roman070280
    Roman070280 10 September 2019 12: 50 New
    0
    When the president lies even in such trifles ... that do not affect anything .. One can only guess what he is capable of for the sake of real benefits ..
  25. Disant
    Disant 10 September 2019 15: 49 New
    +1
    Roman070280, what happened there? where did you lie? Security can not change the mask, like a phantom?
    I will repeat specifically for you, regarding the video collage above:
    :
    How do you think should protect the first person of the state?
    apple-planting interview - two guards from nine present.
    What is wrong? and if de. beat which of the bushes will come out? and if, and if?
    interview with the fish soup and from the fishing longboat - here you cut the video well, but on the other hand, both fishermen are sitting on the longboat and on the bench with the fish soup. Will you give a link to the original or will you find the full version of the video yourself?
    to continue to discuss the mass gathering of people for some holiday?


    or what do you condemn and discuss? explain
  26. New Year day
    New Year day 10 September 2019 20: 19 New
    -4
    Quote: Disant
    Security can not change the mask, like a phantom?

    Is it really about protection?
    The point is how this is presented:
    "Putin met with fishermen, Putin prayed with the people, Putin ate ice cream."
    And in the photo - the same faces, from all angles. Then say:
    "Putin guarded Lake Ilmen, he prayed with them, Putin ate ice cream with guards". What are the claims? - Ride, pray, eat
    So it turns out ...
  27. Disant
    Disant 10 September 2019 21: 28 New
    +5
    Sylvester, I understand - the last word should be yours.
    we will consider that the provocative clipping with the president has successfully entered. Bye
  28. New Year day
    New Year day 11 September 2019 09: 41 New
    -2
    Quote: Disant
    the last word should be yours.

    why, ready for counterarguments. Refute what is said, maybe you're right
  29. Okolotochny
    Okolotochny 12 September 2019 19: 46 New
    +1
    Yes, you remember the times of the USSR, the press, the program Time, banners on demonstrations. Come on, Sylvester, now take them apart.
  30. Roman070280
    Roman070280 11 September 2019 09: 52 New
    -5
    Yes, I explained, explained .. I condemn nonsense !! And only nonsense ..

    Security can stand in the amount of 146 people .. Half can keep trunks aimed at Kiselyov, Solovyov and Skobeeva, interviewing Putin .. the other half can hold the operator’s arms so that he, inadvertently, does not grab a bottle from his bosom from the bosom. Of course, this can and should be done !! I'm not talking about the fact that there the whole district is under cordon, and only an ant can jump out of the bushes ..
    But here to climb into the frame disguised .. under the guise of some fishermen / sellers there, and other things .. This is nonsense !! Apparently, just because you don’t bother with real people ..
    Wherever they want, there I went for a flood, and talked with people .. with real ones !! And no one stuck a knife in his back .. Is it that uncomfortable questions can be asked .. maybe it is precisely the questions that pose the main danger ??
    Or, of course, it was possible to gather your "guards" again (although even you understand that they are not at all guards at all) .. pull on the ice cream saleswoman torn galoshes, and under the guise of residents affected by the flood, give her and others out of a personal pocket " victims "- 5 thousand rubles, for example ..

    I hope I have sufficiently clarified what nonsense is, and that it is not worth referring to protection in this nonsense ..
    And then it will come to pass that on May 9 the awards will be presented to guards dressed as veterans .. and you will defend with arguments about phantoms ..
  31. Rusland
    Rusland 12 September 2019 22: 46 New
    +1
    Quote: Roman070280
    I hope I have clarified enough what nonsense is,

    Yeah, nonsense. good
  32. depressant
    depressant 11 September 2019 13: 20 New
    -1
    Populism, guys, populism.
    Putin needs to portray that he is his own among strangers for him.
  33. Okolotochny
    Okolotochny 12 September 2019 19: 36 New
    +3
    You and Sylvester probably have nothing more to do, how to watch videos and consider the environment of GDP? I understand that you have all the buzz? So why cry? Yes, his potential spouse has not yet been discussed. We started .....
  • Pilat2009
    Pilat2009 9 September 2019 17: 15 New
    +11
    Quote: Saul_Rhen
    And I voted. And for him, and for EP. Like millions of others

    Well now reap the benefits of your vote
    1. Saul_Rhen
      Saul_Rhen 9 September 2019 18: 46 New
      -15
      And what terrible happened? The city and the region are getting prettier. Salary - too. Retirement age - expected and completely not interesting.
    2. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 9 September 2019 21: 32 New
      +6
      [quote = Saul_Rhen] Retirement age - expected and completely not interesting. [/ quote]
      Young?
      quote = Saul_Rhen] The city and the region are getting prettier. S / n - too. [/ Quote]
      I don’t know what’s getting better there if the average for Russia is 35000. I really fell by 10000
    3. Revival
      Revival 10 September 2019 09: 51 New
      +3
      Not necessarily young, he has nothing to say about it.
      And here’s this trick: “I’m violet for retirement age”, “expectedly, naturally” and so on.
      It simply allows the "defenders" to circumvent the issue in which they deliberately "sit in a puddle."
      They have already tried to work with this issue, they realized that they didn’t pull out the pension reform positively and surrendered, they abandoned pulling the hedgehog.
      Now they’ve simply developed a scheme “it’s violet for my retirement age,” “expectedly, naturally,” and so on. ”And then immediately jump to less obvious things where you haven’t failed so obviously and you can still try to praise someone you need
    4. Cat man null
      Cat man null 10 September 2019 10: 04 New
      0
      Quote: Revival
      Not necessarily young, he has nothing to say about it

      Oh what are you ooooh lol

      Quote: Revival
      They already tried to work with this issue, they realized that they didn’t pull out the pension reform positively and surrendered ...

      For sport's sake - play around:

      1. The scheme "the worker pays a pension to the unemployed" came to us from the USSR. Refute.
      2. The number of employees is now dramatically reduced. Partly - due to another "demographic hole", partly - due to tax evaders (which in the USSR, we note, was simply impossible). Refute.
      3. The number of retirees, by contrast, has increased. Refute.
      4. The retirement age increase trend is a global trend. Refute.

      How do you pull? Or, too, “nothing to say”? wink
    5. Campanella
      Campanella 10 September 2019 11: 14 New
      +2
      This is not a sport this is life.
      When a person takes responsibility for a nation, he must understand the measure of his responsibility and soberly assess resources and opportunities.
      Putin recently said no pension reform.
      Nevertheless, time passed and it suddenly turned out that everything was much more complicated. And people here, you can’t help but climb!
      In the USSR there was a joint pension system, when pensions were paid from insurance contributions of enterprises and the state budget.
      The number has dramatically decreased ....
      It justifies somehow the power. They did not know about this?))) Or did not know?
      The number of pensioners has grown, is this also necessary for managers to be a surprise?
      But the global trend is generally bullshit. How can a global trend affect say the Papuans?
    6. Beringovsky
      Beringovsky 10 September 2019 12: 50 New
      -7
      Buddy!
      You forgot about the growth of labor productivity!
      Refute.
    7. Roman070280
      Roman070280 10 September 2019 14: 45 New
      -2
      1. While there was a “scheme from the USSR” somehow no one really complained .. so let that scheme work ..
      And if you undertake to "reform" .. probably this should bring a positive result, and not anyhow ..
      After more than 20 years of reform, refer to the USSR .. while losing outright this comparison ..
      This is when, in place of a good house, after 20 years of renovation, and billions of investments, you have a broken foundation .. and you shout in justification that they say that the old house was far from ideal ..

      2. People who have paid taxes all their lives .. must now be left without a pension due to the fact that all sorts of cunning businessmen riding in Mercedes don’t pay these taxes now .. Well, yes .. that's right .. That's what this is for was Putin .. who got the bad people ..

      3. I remember before there were a lot of old people in the villages .. And now something and close like that is not visible !!

      4. The global trend - improving living standards ..
      If you are already chasing a trend, then it would be more logical to look at improving the quality of roads in another country, and not at raising the level of suicides ..
    8. Cat man null
      Cat man null 10 September 2019 15: 42 New
      +4
      Quote: Roman070280
      Roman070280

      What does your cry of Yaroslavna in four parts mean? If you want to say something - speak clearly, you cannot - do not torment ... Klava stop

      PS: tsiferki - date of birth? It says a lot, you know yes
    9. Roman070280
      Roman070280 11 September 2019 09: 28 New
      -7
      Oh what are you ooooh lol


      They chewed you, and stuck under his nose what he himself had requested ..
      And the number of parts was determined by you yourself earlier .. probably it also tells you something there .. like my date of birth .. but this is already the problem of your psychotherapist, and not this resource ..
      For when there is nothing left to say on the topic, all that remains is to slide down to Yaroslavna ..

      For sports - I'll play

      If you undertake to play, be able and lose .. so as not to look stupid in the future ..
    10. A good one
      A good one 11 September 2019 15: 06 New
      +4
      My joy, and what are you doing here dancing with a tambourine no
      Quote: Roman070280
      They chewed you and stuck it under your nose then

      He himself chewed or from a common boiler, that is, his comrades stole belay
      Quote: Roman070280
      If you undertake to play, be able and lose .. so as not to look stupid in the future ..

      Everything is normal with the head, or the player is underground, and sleepy, in life, sorry, is everything normal?wink Don’t upset me the hollow. smile
    11. Roman070280
      Roman070280 12 September 2019 09: 01 New
      -6
      You will drag your joy in the toilet ..
      Why are you so angry with me, I don’t understand ??)
      The novel, which is zero, offered to play .. Here to him and address your questions, he was clandestine, or was not asleep at that moment ..
      And then you climb where you are not asked, thinking that stupid jokes can take the conversation away from the topic ..
    12. A good one
      A good one 12 September 2019 18: 43 New
      +5
      Quote: Roman070280
      You will drag your joy in the toilet ..

      Standing dawning, don't freak out of yourself, be a man and don’t dismiss the snot if you fail, don’t upset me and do not drive yourself into the appropriate corner.
  • Cat man null
    Cat man null 11 September 2019 15: 12 New
    +7
    Quote: Roman070280
    They chewed you, and stuck under his nose what he himself had requested ..

    Man, I didn’t ask you to chew anything. And even more so - poke your chewing gum under my nose. You obviously mixed up something request

    And yes - it’s decided on you, though. Even if I do not respect you at all (and by the way, this is exactly so), I am still forced to contact you accordingly. For so it is accepted.

    Work hard ... fit, save a lot of nerves, yourself and others yes
  • A good one
    A good one 11 September 2019 15: 23 New
    +5
    Quote: Cat Man Null
    Man, I didn’t ask you to chew anything.

    Greetings buddyhi You’re kind of urban, how did you end up on this supposedly “collective farm field”, you remember like Vladimir Semyonovich’s: by his horns and between him .. drinks
  • Roman070280
    Roman070280 12 September 2019 09: 16 New
    -8
    The key in your words is like ..))
  • A good one
    A good one 12 September 2019 19: 35 New
    +4
    Well, are you good at picking commas, will you build eyes or communicate normally? Isolde Tikhonovna?
  • Roman070280
    Roman070280 12 September 2019 09: 12 New
    -8
    Maybe he didn’t ask .. but I’m not too lazy .. For until you cheat - not everyone, as it turns out, gets it ..
    For you or for you .. this is a question from the same series, are you my friend or not my friend ..
    So let's not jump over the topic of respect, if in essence the subject is nothing to say .. For no one forces you to contact me at all .. nothing at all ..


    You obviously mixed up something


    No .. I didn’t mix anything .. Rather, just the opposite ..

    Quote: Cat Man Null

    For sport's sake - play around:

    1. The scheme "the worker pays a pension to the unemployed" came to us from the USSR. Disprove.
    2. The number of employees is now dramatically reduced. Partly - due to another "demographic hole", partly - due to tax evaders (which in the USSR, we note, was simply impossible). Disprove.
    3. The number of pensioners, in contrast, has increased. Disprove.
    4. The tendency to increase the retirement age is a global trend. Disprove.

    How do you pull? Or, too, “nothing to say”? wink
  • A good one
    A good one 12 September 2019 19: 39 New
    +4
    Quote: Roman070280
    .. but I’m not too lazy .. For until you chew -

    Chew and chew, just don’t lose your head, well, I don’t know, the juveniles have gone, they even give their thought to the hand.
  • Roman070280
    Roman070280 13 September 2019 09: 20 New
    -2
    For this reason, a thought is born so that a person can use it .. and not like some here ..))
  • A good one
    A good one 13 September 2019 20: 01 New
    +1
    The childbirth in your thoughts is somehow heavy, attenuation is traced, after active oscillatory movements. smile
  • Roman070280
    Roman070280 16 September 2019 10: 42 New
    -2
    Your feedback is very important to us..))
  • Rusland
    Rusland 11 September 2019 17: 29 New
    +8
    Quote: Roman070280
    They chewed you and stuck it under your nose

    This "you" in the Fathers suits you, your father probably will not decide on the shovel the same under his nose. Ah, wise guy?
  • Roman070280
    Roman070280 12 September 2019 09: 25 New
    -8
    Why are you so greyhound ??
    What do you not like that I'm a wise guy ??)
    Asked for an answer - I answered ..
    Did not like?? Offended this "father" ?? Well, excuse me .. I write what I think and consider it necessary .. I didn’t put a damn on him, I didn’t send him where I should and shouldn’t .. there was a post exclusively about pension reforms ..
    And now open your eyes, and see what began in response ..))

    PS .. sometimes I want to ask people if they have everything in order .. fathers, mothers ..
    Firstly, I have no idea where he is and what he’s suitable for .. a person can be either 80 or 16 .. according to the arguments, both ages are suitable ..
    Secondly .. learn to communicate on the merits of the topic .. and protect your "homies" in other places .. no one offends them here ..

    When you communicate with your children, you also respond to their objections, "Speak clearly, do not torment Claudia." etc. ??) Look .. and even with a shovel you will be so scrubbed someday from them ..))
  • Rusland
    Rusland 12 September 2019 18: 27 New
    +4
    Quote: Roman070280
    Why are you so greyhound ??
    What do you not like that I'm a wise guy ??)
    Asked for an answer - I answered ..
    Did not like?? Offended this "father" ?? Well, excuse me .. I write what I think and consider it necessary .. I didn’t put a damn on him, I didn’t send him where I should and shouldn’t .. there was a post exclusively about pension reforms ..
    And now open your eyes, and see what began in response ..))

    PS .. sometimes I want to ask people if they have everything in order .. fathers, mothers ..
    Firstly, I have no idea where he is and what he’s suitable for .. a person can be either 80 or 16 .. according to the arguments, both ages are suitable ..
    Secondly .. learn to communicate on the merits of the topic .. and protect your "homies" in other places .. no one offends them here ..

    When you communicate with your children, you also respond to their objections, "Speak clearly, do not torment Claudia." etc. ??) Look .. and even with a shovel you will be so scrubbed someday from them ..))

    Well, you don’t jump out of panties painfully, the greyhound is sofa, or you are used to the baseboard. wink
  • Roman070280
    Roman070280 13 September 2019 09: 27 New
    -1
    That's interesting .. would you yourself answer such a "sharp" joke ?? Well honestly ..))
    But there are dodges .. and in considerable quantities .. which your phrase is also violently plus .. Can you imagine what these people have in their head ??) At the words of the baseboard and panties, their hand reaches for likes ..))

    Although this time it was not only chewed, but also stuffed into the mouth .. and still you normally couldn’t swallow what was written .. we burped again.
  • A good one
    A good one 15 September 2019 11: 24 New
    +1
    Fu, what a nasty, restless and unbalanced, where the fig, there is smoke. winked
  • Leopold
    Leopold 12 September 2019 19: 17 New
    +8
    Roman, this is not Picabu, here people are more serious than shkolota during the holidays. And the rules of the site are consistent. Moderators are also far from children. It is fraught! yes
  • Roman070280
    Roman070280 13 September 2019 09: 29 New
    -2
    Judging by their phrases about panties .. I'm not at all sure about this ..
    One has only to these "people" to begin to answer something essentially, as they immediately slide down to the transition to personalities, etc. .. how it turned out this time too .. Such things ..))
  • Okolotochny
    Okolotochny 12 September 2019 19: 50 New
    +4
    Do you stop being rude? Young isho.
  • Saul_Rhen
    Saul_Rhen 10 September 2019 20: 48 New
    +1
    A plus. Do not try. To such will not reach. The eternal "undershot." The cost of education. You can add life expectancy to your list.
  • Pilat2009
    Pilat2009 11 September 2019 17: 52 New
    -2
    Quote: Cat Man Null
    How do you pull? Or, too, “nothing to say”?

    It is easily refuted, there is no money, look for other sources, nightmare gray salaries, introduce a progressive tax, reduce the pensions of officials. And by the way, you will postpone the retirement ambassador for exactly 5 years - after 5 years, if you don’t raise yet, people will retire anyway. But it's true to decide this problem will no longer be Putin.
    Interviewed by DW experts believe that linking the retirement age to the level of average life expectancy is incorrect. So, the doctor of economic sciences Sergey Smirnov draws attention to the fact that even the May 2018 decree of Vladimir Putin states that the duration of active work, a healthy existence should be 67 years in Russia.

    Head of the Laboratory of Problems of the Level and Quality of Life of the Institute of Social and Economic Population Problems of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Vyacheslav Bobkov, also believes that the reform should not be based on the average life expectancy, but on the degree of disability. "I have never seen research that would be dedicated to evaluating this particular parameter," he told DW.
    Meanwhile, according to the expert, this is the main indicator for determining an acceptable retirement age, because if the degree of disability is high, if people get sick, then this is fraught with high unemployment and the need to pay sickness funds. “In addition, as a result, people will die faster, because it’s one thing to get sick in retirement, and the other thing is to work,” he said.
  • Cat man null
    Cat man null 11 September 2019 22: 13 New
    +6
    Quote: Pilat2009
    Refuted easily ...

    ... as my school military instructor said: well done, head, sadys, two.

    To argue, you must at least understand what you are arguing with. And you, according to my observations, except for Siberian forests (with an area of ​​two RF) to sell to the Chinese, have not yet learned anything.

    Bored with you, I want to sleep request
  • Roman070280
    Roman070280 10 September 2019 14: 30 New
    -3
    Young?


    Wisdom comes with age .. but sometimes age comes alone ..
    So it may well be that not young ..))
    Or just sitting at the trough, and therefore he does not care about anything and everything ..
  • Campanella
    Campanella 10 September 2019 10: 56 New
    +2
    You generally said wonderful things about retirement.
    Everything is prettier except for pensions and prices, healthcare, education, industry!
    Here Vladimir Tractor bent. So everything is hurt, through what glasses do you look at life?
  • Saul_Rhen
    Saul_Rhen 10 September 2019 20: 53 New
    0
    Typically. They invented it themselves, were glad.
  • kaperazbh5
    kaperazbh5 11 September 2019 14: 40 New
    -1
    Yeah .... I looked at payroll from the age of 13. The salary was actually raised several times. But when I converted rubles into dollars at the exchange rate for 13 years and now, I found that in 13 I received more than today. This is called inflation. Salaries are rising, and purchasing power is dropping.
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 10 September 2019 09: 41 New
    +6
    Pilat2009,
    Everything in this world is predetermined by previous events. In our life, it is the Soviet government with Khrushchev, Brezhnev and Andropov, who gave birth to Gorbachev, perestroika, Yeltsin, etc. to EP.
  • New Year day
    New Year day 9 September 2019 18: 43 New
    +6
    Quote: Saul_Rhen
    And I voted. And for him, and for EP. Like millions of others.


    And how many millions of bolts were scored for this? Who is more?
    1. Saul_Rhen
      Saul_Rhen 9 September 2019 18: 47 New
      -3
      Do you really believe that those who did not come to the polls are against the government?
  • turbris
    turbris 14 September 2019 15: 25 New
    0
    And I voted for Putin, and until others go to the polls, my vote will be decisive, and you play the “smart vote” and have fun at unauthorized rallies ugly. Only the West praises you, inventing all sorts of changes in the ratings, the opposition has lost everything again, and always will be.
  • NordUral
    NordUral 9 September 2019 23: 07 New
    +4
    I don’t know who voted for them. I came to my site near 19, in a magazine where I signed, I saw only two filled lines with last names. So lie it all.
    There was no one to vote for, I wanted for the Communist Party candidate - Bortko, but he turned out to be a bastard along with Zyuganov. But I put a checkmark in front of his last name (remained in the ballots), thereby spoiling him.
    Spoiled the municipal form, no one to vote for. One EDR, now explicit, then disguised, and even fake communists.
    1. Revival
      Revival 10 September 2019 09: 58 New
      +2
      Yes, the Communist Party in its current form is just in the bottom.
      All the recent elections, quite often, are either a “problematic” candidate, whom you can find fault with and fail, then they themselves are removed, betraying people.
      It seems that the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, in view of the expected fiasco of the EP in the elections, had to practically "lose the mask" to provide maximum support to the EP by any means
      1. Campanella
        Campanella 10 September 2019 14: 10 New
        -4
        I have a feeling about some kind of agreement, the Kremlin does not strangle the Communist Party, and it, in turn, has its own corridor of opportunities.
        Putin can easily ban her by hanging all the dogs. And here Zyuganov did the right thing keeping the army. Can this army get involved in battle on day X and win?
      2. Pavel57
        Pavel57 10 September 2019 16: 11 New
        +5
        The Communist Party has a chance only after the change Zyuganov.
      3. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 10 September 2019 18: 15 New
        +1
        The country may also have a chance after the change of Putin. For some reason, the damned Americans change presidents every 4 years and this doesn’t affect them.
      4. Saul_Rhen
        Saul_Rhen 10 September 2019 20: 45 New
        +3
        But in Germany they do not change the chancellor, and this also does not bother them, imagine? Can you name a worthy candidate?
      5. Campanella
        Campanella 11 September 2019 10: 04 New
        -1
        Because Putin is king! And his rule is monarchical with a liberal tinge, ala Nicholas II and))) he has a royal menu, in contrast to Obama.
        “When Vladimir Vladimirovich dined at this restaurant, it wasn’t said, but the presidential banquet menu does exist. There are hot smoked salmon and beluga, pickles, tsar’s ear, hot and cold meats, kvass, fruit drinks, and vodka. But for some reason I was especially impressed journalist boiled potatoes with butter and dill. "Honestly, give me boiled potatoes any day," writes Garcia.

        After that, she decided to compare what U.S. President Barack Obama was eating when he went to Roscoe's House of Chicken and Waffles in Los Angeles. There, now also in the menu included item number 9, "Specially from Obama." And this is nothing but 3 fried chicken wings and a waffle. This whole portion costs $ 10. "
    2. Campanella
      Campanella 11 September 2019 10: 00 New
      -3
      It doesn’t. The authorities simply will not allow this. You obviously don’t understand the main thing - the power is headed by the siloviki!
  • Saul_Rhen
    Saul_Rhen 10 September 2019 20: 54 New
    -1
    And here EP interferes. Here are the poor communists.
  • Revival
    Revival 10 September 2019 23: 33 New
    0
    Yer prevents people from living, do they prevent the Communist Party of the people from spitting
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 10 September 2019 09: 25 New
    +5
    Democracy is, above all, a transparent electoral system.

    Aga-State and Great Britain are vivid examples of democracy by this criterion.
    1. Campanella
      Campanella 10 September 2019 14: 12 New
      0
      And who said that? They have a property qualification, what kind of democracy?
  • Campanella
    Campanella 9 September 2019 13: 09 New
    +13
    "Essentials" ... you have not read. And note this not in 5 copies. And I brought only part of the necessary products. Of course, not daily, they rotate.
    Ps. These are prices in network budget stores.
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 9 September 2019 13: 17 New
      -34
      Quote: Campanella
      And I brought only part of the necessary products

      For example - bananas, you just can’t live without them.
      1. Campanella
        Campanella 9 September 2019 13: 25 New
        +34
        Buying a child. And what should he only feed him with carrots?
        You can live without much, I hope you live on bread and water.
        1. bober1982
          bober1982 9 September 2019 13: 31 New
          -25
          Quote: Campanella
          I hope you live on bread and water.

          Dear Campanela, what are you saying? You still say that I fall into a hungry faint. Do you live in Russia?
          1. Campanella
            Campanella 9 September 2019 13: 36 New
            +31
            I am talking about inflation in Russia! There is no hungry faint, but almost all the money goes to groceries.
            Of course, if the salary is more than 100 tyr per person, then life can be said to be almost successful. I live in Russia, forged the shield of the Motherland at one time, for which I was punished by the current government, provided with old age.
          2. Cat man null
            Cat man null 9 September 2019 14: 53 New
            -13
            Quote: Campanella
            if salary more than 100 tyr per personthen life can be said almost succeeded

            Um ... there are simply no words, censorship ... have you exaggerated the sloness, my friend? negative
          3. Campanella
            Campanella 9 September 2019 16: 57 New
            +5
            Did we drink together? Did you call me friend? And what is wrong?
          4. New Year day
            New Year day 9 September 2019 20: 20 New
            -1
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            have you exaggerated the slons, buddy?

            Novel! Are you many or few? Not clear from your words
        2. nik13
          nik13 9 September 2019 16: 51 New
          -21
          stop whining ept .. in the 90s for 7 months zp the democrats detained - but we are alive
        3. Doliva63
          Doliva63 9 September 2019 18: 25 New
          +8
          Quote: nik13
          stop whining ept .. in the 90s for 7 months zp the democrats detained - but we are alive

          And what is happiness here? In the 40s, in concentration camps, too, many remained alive. Not an indicator, however.
      2. Grandfather
        Grandfather 10 September 2019 18: 45 New
        +3
        belay belay
        Quote: Campanella
        I am talking about inflation in Russia! There is no hungry faint, but almost all the money goes to groceries.
      3. Grandfather
        Grandfather 10 September 2019 18: 45 New
        +2
        Quote: Campanella
        more than 100 tyr per person,

        more than 100 tyr per person,
  • Oquzyurd
    Oquzyurd 9 September 2019 14: 12 New
    +13
    Boiled potatoes, salt, a bunch of onions and moonshine. 21 century, what are bananas and pineapples, what are you talking about? .Markovka and beets, rejoice ....
    1. Freeman
      Freeman 9 September 2019 15: 21 New
      +5
      Quote: Oquzyurd
      ... 21 century, what are bananas and pineapples, what are you talking about? .Markovka and beets, rejoice ....

      Woah! What about the mustache? And patamushta rap will not be razed.
      wassat
    2. Campanella
      Campanella 10 September 2019 11: 18 New
      -3
      We only disagree, according to the old Russian tradition!)))
  • Campanella
    Campanella 9 September 2019 19: 29 New
    +5
    Maybe he was happy, only officials cling all the time, then they will raise the tax, then they will raise the rate, then they’ll take the pension to the forest, don’t go for a swim in the river, and he’s also trying to put the tray in. They protect and protect themselves. In Luzhniki, at the bottom of Moscow, a thermos was taken away with tea, you see the first person will come. .
  • Freeman
    Freeman 10 September 2019 12: 46 New
    +3
    Campanella Yesterday, 19:29
    In Luzhniki at the bottom Moscow thermos taken away with tea, you see the first person will come.

    It would seem - a "trifling fact".
    - But the "day", for a man, really turned into a "bottom".
    Too bad a spoiled holiday.
    Threat. Although they themselves are to blame. Still not familiarized with the rules of attending public events. hi
  • Campanella
    Campanella 10 September 2019 13: 35 New
    -1
    The most interesting were people with thermoses and scooters, it was seen different passage.
  • Vanek
    Vanek 10 September 2019 04: 13 New
    -5
    Quote: Oquzyurd
    Boiled potatoes, salt, a bunch of onions and moonshine


    Sauerkraut yet. Here.

    But Campanella will say that they themselves eat it.

    Quote: Oquzyurd
    bananas and pineapples


    Eat pineapple, hazel grouse ...

    Quote: Oquzyurd
    Marking and beets


    It’s more useful for a child. Than some bananas.

    NO! I can let my son buy bananas. As an exception. But still I prefer to feed him borsch. Yes Yes. With carrots, beets.

    Jeyhun hi
  • Campanella
    Campanella 10 September 2019 11: 23 New
    0
    Sauerkraut is a cool thing, but it costs 200 rubles per kilo, and maybe already 250. I have not bought it for a long time.
    Gentlemen, critics, I hope you don’t think that I only feed the child with bananas?
    He knows about tasty and healthy food no worse than you.
  • Vanek
    Vanek 11 September 2019 04: 10 New
    -3
    Quote: Campanella
    but it costs 200 rubles per kilo, and maybe already 250.


    About sauerkraut:

    I sit in the country in the spring of about 40 heads. In the fall ...

    Well, I understood in general what I was doing with her in the fall.

    NOT a copeck.

    I DO NOT BUY IT.

    12 COTS OF COTTAGES FOR FOUR (I, spouse, son, mother) COMPLETELY ENOUGH.

    And one more thing:

    Quote: Campanella
    you hope you don’t think that I only feed bananas on a child?


    No I do not think so.

    hi
  • Campanella
    Campanella 11 September 2019 09: 21 New
    +1
    I'm happy for you! But just surviving subsistence farming in the 21st century is somehow wrong. I have six hundred parts and the land is not very good and the cabbage was devoured as it came from time to time.
  • New Year day
    New Year day 11 September 2019 09: 31 New
    -2
    Quote: Vanek
    I sit in the country in the spring of about 40 heads.

    this is well done. Cabbage is anti-carcinogen, and if its own! I have winter only with cabbage in all kinds, Respect
  • Vanek
    Vanek 13 September 2019 03: 17 New
    +1
    Okay, 40.

    Mother-in-law with a dough under 100 plant.

    Quote: Silvestr
    and if your own


    Made his wife collect seeds. Cucumbers, peppers, tomatoes. Grandma never bought seeds. Exclusively mine. The grandmother died and the wife and mother relaxed. They began to buy seeds.

    And I washed them off the toilet. No. Seeds procured. We went to the village, To her (wife) grandmother. smile

    Only natural. And as much as possible. From the garden.
  • Revival
    Revival 9 September 2019 14: 45 New
    +4
    Yes, this is just a troll, do not waste time.
    Picked up a cat mans style
  • Cat man null
    Cat man null 9 September 2019 14: 51 New
    -9
    Quote: Campanella
    Buying a child. And what should he only feed him with carrots?

    Make fun of it - when I was a child, bananas were not found in our area ... carrots - yes ... rub, yes with sugar, yes a spoonful of sour cream there ... mmm ...
    1. Campanella
      Campanella 9 September 2019 15: 06 New
      +6
      Then they went by public transport, jokes?
      Carrot, of course, is more useful than a banana. But the conversation is not about that.
    2. Cat man null
      Cat man null 9 September 2019 16: 04 New
      -11
      Quote: Campanella
      Then we went by public transport

      I ride it now. It is to me that in the morning, in the evening - much faster yes

      Quote: Campanella
      the conversation is not about that

      Conversation about nothing. I understand, I want

      Quote: Campanella
      salary over 100 tyr per person

      - so make money. You can not? Cut back on desires, as yogis call. Something like this.

      Quote: Campanella
      joke

      I do not need to poke, otherwise I poke negative
    3. Campanella
      Campanella 9 September 2019 16: 23 New
      +12
      How many righteous indignation.
      Poke on health, is it closer to you?
      And why should I reduce my desires, if I worked for more than 42 years, here you need to reduce my desires. I believe that I have earned a secured old age. True, the new Russian rulers have a different opinion, but this is a different conversation.
    4. Cat man null
      Cat man null 9 September 2019 17: 43 New
      -4
      Quote: Campanella
      worked more than 42

      From 1977, mean. I'm from 85, but an engineer. Under the Union, the institute, it seems, went into the experience. Then, count from 79. Also - 40 with a tail, however wink

      Quote: Campanella
      I believe that I deserve a secured old age

      Everyone has different concepts about "security." Your "salary of at least 100 kilo rubles per capita," I confess, was a little annoying. IMHO you have greatly overestimated desires, that's why it’s precisely

      Quote: Campanella
      ... you need and reduce your desires

      Quote: Campanella
      True, the new Russian rulers have a different opinion, but ...

      ... personally, I will tear it down. I work, earn, help others and not only. And do not whine, mind you. At the same time, I believe that I am right, and you are not.

      That's all yes
    5. Campanella
      Campanella 9 September 2019 21: 52 New
      +7
      So is that you? Didn’t find out, you have successfully absorbed modern slang. Make fun of it for sure about nothing and not mine, I don’t see any sense, something similar to Wow.
      I worked since 1976.
      I am happy for you, but somehow I have not very good health. Therefore, there are problems with work.
      100 thousand is a salary, not a pension. I think a pension of 40 ty would be enough. The truth is, the drugs are expensive. So you are mistaken, this is not nagging, but reality. And the reality is that when you are sick, you are of little interest to anyone.
    6. Cat man null
      Cat man null 9 September 2019 22: 05 New
      -5
      Quote: Campanella
      I’m happy for you, but I’m somehow not very healthy

      GYY !!! I'm writing from the hospital now, tomorrow for discharge. Pan Kreatit, however ... well, and something else, the consequences, in short, of stormy youth and an unrestrained lifestyle. Well, now I’m also trying to work, from an udalenka ...

      Quote: Campanella
      the reality is that when you are sick, you are of little interest to anyone

      I do not know. My boss personally brought me here, and before that we dropped by my house (to the region, from Moscow ... the dipped beam, as they say), took my dog ​​and assigned him to the canine hotel ... well, there’s nobody to look after him now . We parted on the phrase of the boss: let's heal, we need you alive laughing

      Quote: Campanella
      Xnumx thousand is salary

      If "in person", and in a family of two children - this is 400 for two employees. I have never had so much, but - I didn’t feel anything flawed and do not feel it.

      Quote: Campanella
      you have successfully absorbed modern slang

      I work with young animals, hence the slang. Young growth, by the way, sensible - pleasing to the eye. In short - live boom (s) yes
    7. Town Hall
      Town Hall 9 September 2019 22: 19 New
      -1
      Quote: Cat Man Null
      they took my dog ​​and assigned him to the canine hotel ... well, there is no one to watch him now.

      In a 5-star ... with a jacuzzi and a view of the Kremlin ... Don’t be shy about the details ...
    8. Cat man null
      Cat man null 9 September 2019 23: 10 New
      -5
      Quote: Town Hall
      Feel free to details ...

      Why do you need it? You Never Become My Favorite Dog request

      One thing I’ll say - I would have willingly changed with him: you are being fed, walking, playing, the company is good there, the air is clean and the weather is now on 5. Plus its own room, in which you eat and sleep. Dog paradise, practical ...

      PS: not advertising laughing
  • Campanella
    Campanella 9 September 2019 22: 43 New
    0
    Pancreatitis, a familiar thing. It is advisable to diet for the rest of the period.
    By the way, I’m also lying down and firing from a mobile phone. The truth is not in the hospital, as I recall the desire immediately disappears. Why 400? A maximum of two hundred, but rarely in a family when both earn decently. 150 ÷ ​​170 sp. four of 40 sput, not so much, but there is an opportunity to redistribute costs.
    I was lucky with the boss, my big one simply said I wasn’t needed, and I caught the small one.
    I also had young animals, but they all left, there were no prospects, I fired someone. Then me too ...
    We’ll live, we won’t die, but I live every day, my plans are petty. But it’s a shame for the country!
  • Freeman
    Freeman 9 September 2019 15: 31 New
    -4
    Quote: Cat Man Null
    Quote: Campanella
    Buying a child. And what should he only feed him with carrots?

    Make fun of it - when I was a child, bananas were not found in our area ... carrots - yes ... rub, yes with sugar, yes a spoonful of sour cream there ... mmm ...

    Yeah! And if a slice of a dried white loaf is dipped in milk, then fried in margarine in a frying pan, and then, still hot, sprinkled with granulated sugar - then the “Napoleon” cake and “didn’t lie nearby”.


    / sarcasm / wassat
  • Cat man null
    Cat man null 9 September 2019 16: 00 New
    -5
    Quote: Freeman
    sarcasm

    I would say where I saw this sarcasm negative

    Here’s another recipe from childhood, it’s quite vital: we cut black bread into slices 0.5X0.5X5 cm. Gently fry the slices on all sides in vegetable oil.

    For tea - quite a good thing yes

    PS: then there were no ready-made crackers in bags and - then there was still no fashion to drink beer with such crackers. True, there was practically no beer on sale.

    Sarkasta, damn it negative
  • Campanella
    Campanella 9 September 2019 16: 27 New
    0
    You might think you lived at that time. I wonder how beer was distributed at that time, tell me?
  • Freeman
    Freeman 9 September 2019 16: 41 New
    +2
    Quote: Campanella
    I wonder how beer was distributed at that time, tell me?


    It began - "for health"


    And it ended - "for peace"


    Threat. Most found only "for peace."
  • Cat man null
    Cat man null 9 September 2019 17: 54 New
    0
    Quote: Campanella
    You might have thought you were living at that time

    Someone has sclerosis. We talked about when someone retires, remember laughing
  • bober1982
    bober1982 9 September 2019 17: 56 New
    -5
    Quote: Campanella
    and how beer was distributed at that time, tell me?

    In polyethylene bags, or in smelly cans.
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 10 September 2019 12: 11 New
    +2
    Quote: bober1982
    In polyethylene bags, or in smelly cans.

    Sevastopol, 1979: if you take 10 liters of BUCKET of draft beer, it’s out of turn! yes
  • Serg65
    Serg65 11 September 2019 15: 06 New
    +4
    Quote: Olgovich
    Sevastopol, 1979 g

    what Olgovich, what kind of Sevastopol pub did you go with a bucket?
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 12 September 2019 09: 11 New
    0
    Quote: Serg65
    Olgovich, what kind of Sevastopol pub did you go with a bucket?

    It was FORTY years ago, I don’t remember. But the “bucket" fact itself, of course, got hooked, as did the absolutely unimaginable lineup.
    Yes, the bucket was not large — we were about 10 people — a team of builders of the Sevastopol reinforced concrete products.
  • Serg65
    Serg65 12 September 2019 09: 17 New
    +4
    Quote: Olgovich
    Sevastopol concrete goods.

    Well then, the brewery was in Inkerman ... customs were simpler there laughing
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 12 September 2019 11: 34 New
    0
    Quote: Serg65
    Quote: Olgovich
    Sevastopol concrete goods.

    Well then, the brewery was in Inkerman ... customs were simpler there laughing

    I remember that, nevertheless, not so far from pl. Nakhimov, the old part of the city. recourse
  • Serg65
    Serg65 12 September 2019 12: 35 New
    +4
    Quote: Olgovich
    not so far from pl. Nakhimov,

    The closest pub at that time from pl. Nakhimova ... was near the entrance to the collective farm market, and a little further ... at the Main Post Office on B. Morskaya. hi
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 12 September 2019 12: 51 New
    0
    Quote: Serg65
    The closest pub at that time from pl. Nakhimova ... was near the entrance to the collective farm market, and a little further ... at the Main Post Office on B. Morskaya.

    May be...
    I do not remember, especially since once there were ....

    Oh where I was yesterday - I will not find, even kill!
    Only rememberthat the walls are with wallpaper
    I remember - there was a keyboard, and a friend was with her, -
    Kissing in the kitchen with both.

    Here I am: I remember the key, I remember the wallpaper, and ... recourse hi
  • Okolotochny
    Okolotochny 12 September 2019 19: 59 New
    0
    Serge, did you serve or did you spend time in the pubs?
  • Serg65
    Serg65 13 September 2019 09: 25 New
    +1
    Alex, one another is not a hindrance wink drinks
  • Beringovsky
    Beringovsky 10 September 2019 13: 13 New
    -2
    Well, yes, right now there is no problem packing the goods.
    But the catastrophic scale of the problem with garbage from this package, which they no longer know where to put it.
  • Freeman
    Freeman 9 September 2019 16: 29 New
    +3
    Quote: Cat Man Null
    Quote: Freeman
    sarcasm

    I would say where I saw this sarcasm: negative
    ........................................
    Sarkasta, damn it negative

    Exactly.
    This is my "stone in the garden" of those who - "they didn’t eat anything sweeter than carrots."
    And he believes that a "full yard of cars" is a sign of "luxury."
    But life does not stand still. There were times when a sewing machine. a kerosene lamp, a bicycle, and then a television were also "luxury goods."
  • Campanella
    Campanella 9 September 2019 16: 29 New
    -3
    By the way, the blackberry fried on the overall in the army was so delicious! (Not sarcasm)
  • purple
    purple 9 September 2019 18: 40 New
    -8
    Quote: Cat Man Null
    Make fun of it - when I was a child, bananas were not found in our area ... carrots - yes ... rub, yes with sugar, yes a spoonful of sour cream there ... mmm ...

    now he’s lying again ... there wasn’t enough sugar to pour in carrots .....
  • Cat man null
    Cat man null 9 September 2019 22: 08 New
    +3
    Quote: purple
    there wasn’t enough sugar to pour in carrots

    A teaspoon in a bowl of grated carrots - a big expense? Nude ...

    Quote: purple
    here again lies ...

    Oh how! Okay, I will remember this at your leisure wink
  • Leopold
    Leopold 12 September 2019 19: 52 New
    0
    Novel, hi Well, I beg you, this will be regarded as a threat to life. Let the "organs" understand slander and libel. And we will observe from the side like ours with this.
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 10 September 2019 16: 13 New
    0
    Banana is rich in vitamin C, a well-known natural antioxidant. This vitamin reduces the likelihood of thrombosis, protects against viruses and infections, increases stress resistance.
    Phosphorus is a trace element whose amount in a banana is also impressive. Phosphorus is important for proper bone and tooth growth, normal kidney function, and good absorption of vitamins.
    In addition, bananas contain B vitamins, iron, calcium and fiber, which makes the fruit one of the most valuable fruit plants.
    Also bananas - a real storehouse of "hormones of happiness", endorphins and serotonin. Having eaten a juicy fruit, you can instantly feel joyful and cheerful.
  • bober1982
    bober1982 10 September 2019 17: 08 New
    +4
    Quote: Pavel57
    Having eaten a juicy fruit, you can instantly feel joyful and cheerful.

    As for the juicy did not get excited? Where did the banana come from, from the garden? Eat fresh boiled beets, and you will be more joyful and more cheerful.
  • Revival
    Revival 9 September 2019 14: 08 New
    +3
    And people are obliged to live without them, is that black caviar, not permissible luxury?
    Ish what else and wanted bananas? Algae to bananas as routine?
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 9 September 2019 14: 20 New
      -18
      Quote: Revival
      Ish what else and wanted bananas? Algae to bananas as routine?

      Some kind of monkeys to eat them.
      1. Revival
        Revival 9 September 2019 14: 42 New
        +5
        Well, troll on
      2. New Year day
        New Year day 9 September 2019 20: 46 New
        -3
        Quote: bober1982
        Some kind of monkeys to eat them.

        Well, if we eat palm oil, then bananas are for a sweet soul!
      3. bober1982
        bober1982 9 September 2019 20: 51 New
        -4
        Quote: Silvestr
        well, if we eat palm oil

        Who makes you, if you want, you can avoid it, by the way, they eat a lot (population, electorate) a lot, according to observations.
      4. New Year day
        New Year day 9 September 2019 21: 04 New
        -2
        Quote: bober1982
        incidentally guzzle (population, electorate) a lot, according to observations.

        maybe then together for EP and vote? laughing
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 10 September 2019 16: 14 New
    0
    Like monkeys, if you don’t fry them.)))
  • Saul_Rhen
    Saul_Rhen 9 September 2019 14: 54 New
    -3
    Is it a matter under the Communists, yes
  • New Year day
    New Year day 9 September 2019 19: 02 New
    +1
    Quote: Revival
    Is that black caviar, not permissible luxury?


    In 74-75 years. The Seventh Heaven Restaurant on the Ostankino Tower: a black caviar sandwich for 1 (ONE) ruble. They bought me and the parents were not oligarchs
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 9 September 2019 19: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: Silvestr
      sandwich with black caviar for 1 (ONE) ruble ...

      ... that is, for 100 matchboxes. Attention, the question is: is it possible to buy matchboxes for 100 now same a sandwich?

      By the way, caviar on such sandwiches, as a rule, was "in the wake" (if anyone does not know, the term is from analytical chemistry and means "it is not quantified") laughing
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 9 September 2019 20: 52 New
      -4
      Quote: Cat Man Null
      Can I buy the same sandwich for 100 boxes of matches?

      100 g of black caviar costs an average of 10000-20000 rubles.
      100 boxes of matches costs an average of 200 rubles.
      Quote: Cat Man Null
      Attention, Question

      a sandwich with a slide of caviar or interspersed? laughing
    3. Cat man null
      Cat man null 9 September 2019 21: 14 New
      +2
      Quote: Silvestr
      100 g of black caviar costs an average of 10000-20000 rubles

      Um ...

      At the moment kilogram black caviar in Moscow can be bought at a price from 40 000 to 90 000 rubles.
      Original article: https://www.kp.ru/guide/skol-ko-stoit-1-kg-chernoi-ikry-v-moskve.html

      Quote: Silvestr
      100 matchboxes costs an average of 200 rubles

      Well, suppose ...

      Divide 40000 by 200, get the number of servings worth 100 boxes per kilogram of caviar: 200
      Divide the 1 kilogram into 200 servings, we get the weight of the servings per bootper worth 100 boxes: 5 grams. This is somewhere a teaspoon in volume.

      It’s quite a bumper, no?

      Quote: Silvestr
      a sandwich with a slide of caviar or interspersed

      He said - caviar was in the tracks laughing
    4. New Year day
      New Year day 9 September 2019 21: 16 New
      -5
      Quote: Cat Man Null
      we get the weight of the portion per booter worth 100 boxes: 5 grams. This is somewhere a teaspoon in volume.

      no, not enough! I love the slide.
      Caviar in Moscow is always more expensive, you need to know the place
    5. Cat man null
      Cat man null 9 September 2019 21: 24 New
      +3
      Quote: Silvestr
      Caviar in Moscow is always more expensive, you need to know the place

      Places - where is more expensive? Something an elusive joke (about two new Russians and a tie for 5 kilobaxes) reminded laughing
    6. New Year day
      New Year day 9 September 2019 21: 51 New
      -3
      Quote: Cat Man Null
      Places - where is more expensive?

      in the public sense, this is where it’s cheaper
  • Campanella
    Campanella 10 September 2019 14: 21 New
    0
    At the age of 65 or 66, my mother and I went to remove a tooth, as compensation, my mother bought a small can of black caviar, and lived from paycheck to paycheck.
  • New Year day
    New Year day 10 September 2019 20: 25 New
    -4
    Quote: Campanella
    mom bought a small jar of black caviar

    I still can’t buy it. On New Year's Eve, only "red" or granddaughter out of turn.
  • Campanella
    Campanella 11 September 2019 00: 54 New
    -3
    By the way, then they cost the same, that is black, that is red caviar. Now there is no normal caviar either, so I don’t buy, and it’s impossible already. All the time you need ...
  • New Year day
    New Year day 11 September 2019 09: 29 New
    -3
    Quote: Campanella
    .Now there is no normal caviar either.

    I also thought so, until I was prompted, the Red Caviar network from Sakhalin. Good quality. The most important fish is there, not bad, I haven’t seen a frost
  • Campanella
    Campanella 11 September 2019 09: 54 New
    -4
    I once brought caviar from Kamchatka, so it was tasty and looked like Soviet.
  • New Year day
    New Year day 11 September 2019 10: 07 New
    -4
    Quote: Campanella
    I once brought caviar from Kamchatka

    exactly the same with me, but the logistics were not stable
  • Pilat2009
    Pilat2009 9 September 2019 17: 17 New
    +3
    Quote: bober1982
    For example - bananas, you just can’t live without them.

    You can live a lot without anything, but why then such a state?
  • New Year day
    New Year day 9 September 2019 18: 46 New
    -3
    Quote: bober1982
    bananas, you just can’t live without them.


    If you compare the benefits and price, they very much replace apples. Fiber is needed
    1. Campanella
      Campanella 10 September 2019 11: 40 New
      -1
      Apples are generally awesome. Bananas are 2 times cheaper. We don’t have ours, we’re paying our enemies! Thanks to the authorities, this is also a surprise for them. Although Putin, Medvedev see the economy the same way, the market will decide everything ... Small-minded guys, if not for Stalin and not the Soviet authorities rowing shoveling snow both two!
  • Vanek
    Vanek 10 September 2019 04: 06 New
    -2
    Quote: Campanella
    network budget stores.


    Yeah.

    Network, budget, store. What is it like? I feel free to ask.
    1. Campanella
      Campanella 10 September 2019 11: 34 New
      -1
      Dixie, magnet, five.
      1. Vanek
        Vanek 11 September 2019 04: 18 New
        0
        Networked, yes.

        No budget.

        On one shelf, discounted goods (yellow price tag).

        On another shelf, a wrap-up product (but no one will say anything about it) in order to return a discount from the yellow price tag.

        Bread 30 r, at a discount 25 (yellow price tag)

        Baton 35, but should be 28 (something they won’t say, and they won’t write on the price tag)

        I am sure you know the mathematics. Count.

        THIS IS NOT A GOOD SERVICES BUREAU.

        THIS, his mother is BUSINESS.
        1. Campanella
          Campanella 11 September 2019 09: 33 New
          -2
          In general, I try to take goods on stocks. There are products with cheaper prices, but quality ...
  • Okolotochny
    Okolotochny 12 September 2019 19: 54 New
    -1
    Now make a shopping list in the Soviet store? Cheeses and butter constantly bought? Personally, I remember sugar and butter on coupons.
  • free
    free 14 September 2019 06: 56 New
    -1
    Quote: Less
    Quote: Campanella
    This is exactly

    Is this your daily food package? And then your initial list was somewhat shorter ...


    That you are embarrassed by the newly-mister, take off the masks. Tell me how cool it is to live in a bourgeois RF.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 9 September 2019 13: 17 New
    +16
    Today I made a purchase:
    Baton (new) - 34 r
    Wheat bun 4 pcs. - 8 p
    Sour cream 15% - 57x3 = 171 - 5% (pension) = 162 p
    1/4 watermelon - 90 r
    Red peaches 6 pcs., Ordinary peaches 2 pcs., Pears 3 pcs. = 390
    Potato 4 kg - 16x4 = 64 r
    Total: 748 rubles
    1. Campanella
      Campanella 9 September 2019 13: 28 New
      +16
      According to Beaver, you have too much nutritious food. )))
      1. Oquzyurd
        Oquzyurd 9 September 2019 14: 14 New
        +6
        )))) Bourgeois, definitely)
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 9 September 2019 20: 54 New
          -2
          Quote: Oquzyurd
          )))) Bourgeois, definitely)

          with such a diet?
          Quote: ROSS 42
          1/4 watermelon - 90 r

          Yes, sarcasm is not appropriate
          1. naidas
            naidas 10 September 2019 13: 54 New
            +1
            Quote: Silvestr
            with such a diet?

            With such an amount of 748r.
            Here is a hazel grouse from a loop-200r. and pineapple for 100 rubles. - bourgeois and cheaper.
  • purple
    purple 9 September 2019 13: 30 New
    -13
    Quote: Campanella
    That's for sure, you can hold out on the pasta)))
    Bread 35 rub * 2 = 70 r
    Oil 120 rub pack
    Cheese 250 gr - 230 rubles
    Milk - 70 rub
    Kefir - 80 rubles
    Potato - 120 rub 3 kg
    APPLES - 120 rubles
    Bananas - 65 rub
    This is about a thousand rubles.

    Where do you live? in Magadan chtoli?
    everything can be safely divided by 2, well, only cheese and butter are one and a half laughing
    1. Revival
      Revival 9 September 2019 14: 09 New
      +2
      Where did you see such oil
    2. Fitter65
      Fitter65 9 September 2019 14: 54 New
      +7
      Quote: purple
      Quote: Campanella
      That's for sure, you can hold out on the pasta)))
      Bread 35 rub * 2 = 70 r
      Oil 120 rub pack
      Cheese 250 gr - 230 rubles
      Milk - 70 rub
      Kefir - 80 rubles
      Potato - 120 rub 3 kg
      APPLES - 120 rubles
      Bananas - 65 rub
      This is about a thousand rubles.

      Where do you live? in Magadan chtoli?
      everything can be safely divided by 2, well, only cheese and butter are one and a half laughing

      Komsomolsk-on-Amur at prices almost one to one. Once a week you’ll go shopping for purchases, 10000 rubles from the bush, and about 4 weeks, plus housing and communal services without a little less than 10000 rubles, the heating will include at least another 5 tons. toss.
      1. purple
        purple 9 September 2019 18: 10 New
        +5
        Quote: Cat Man Null
        All this, my dear, was on sale in the Moscow capital. And here I have in 40 km. from her - already somehow not really. Kefir, milk, butter - it was necessary to calculate and guard. Deafness - I don’t remember, maybe it was.

        do not star "dear" 300 km from Moscow all this was in bulk like eggs ... yes there were problems with sausage, but never with milk .... I don’t know what year of release you are there, but what you're lying is 100%
    3. Campanella
      Campanella 9 September 2019 15: 09 New
      0
      Moscow, dear. It is possible to divide by 3, only eat this chemistry yourself!
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 9 September 2019 16: 10 New
        -3
        Quote: Campanella
        You can also divide on 3, only eat this chemistry yourself

        When the Union Magrarin, I suppose, burst, as cute. Any roast is on margarine. And they didn’t even remember the palm tree, because they did not know about it.

        Quote: Campanella
        Moscow dear

        Moscow snickered even under the Union, but now the "burp" has gone negative
        1. Campanella
          Campanella 9 September 2019 16: 16 New
          +7
          There were a lot of things in the Union.
          Not only was margarine, but also a combi.
          But the butter was delicious, kefir, milk, condensed milk ... you lick your fingers. You will not try this son anymore, but it's a pity, then you would at least understand something in this life.
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 9 September 2019 17: 11 New
            -3
            Quote: Campanella
            You will not try this son anymore, but it’s a pity, if only you would understand something in this life

            Well, that’s you, that’s how you are: you, my dear, have forgotten the little guy: you and I, bro, are almost the same age: you are the second half of the 61, and you will go out on the same stump this year, and I will be from the very beginning of 62- go (that month has not passed). So - I’m not my son to you, and I tried everything that you enumerated there. Only here is the difference, my dear:

            Quote: Campanella
            butter was yummy, kefir, milk, condensed milk ...

            All this, my dear, was on sale in the Moscow capital. And here I have in 40 km. from her - already somehow not really. Kefir, milk, butter - it was necessary to calculate and guard. Deafness - I don’t remember, maybe it was.

            Sausage was 1 once a week, on a known day and hour. They gave a kilo in hand, the line from the earliest, delivery to lunch, in 17, as a rule, was already over. What was not enough for everyone - you probably understood wink

            That's why I say:

            Quote: Cat Man Null
            Moscow snickered even with the Union

            Somehow request
          2. Cat man null
            Cat man null 9 September 2019 17: 52 New
            +6
            Quote: Campanella
            You will not try this son anymore, but sorry

            I am the same son as you, son. You are six months older than me, chell wink

            Quote: Campanella
            butter was yummy, kefir, milk, condensed milk ..

            Yeah. Only in Moscow they were always there, and I, in 40 km from her, my darling, was already very rare. Or it was necessary to catch when they brought it, and until it was over. Feel the difference, as they say yes

            Quote: Campanella
            then I would at least understand something in this life

            In this life I understood more than many. I had to raise my family in 90's, and live without work for quite some time ... everything was. Do not teach, as they say, father ... and basta laughing
        2. New Year day
          New Year day 9 September 2019 19: 05 New
          +1
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          the palm tree was not even remembered, because they did not know about it.


          So it was not there, palm trees. It was sunflower, butter, ghee and margarine. But then margarine is according to GOST!
  • vadson
    vadson 9 September 2019 13: 43 New
    +2
    Quote: Campanella
    That's for sure, you can hold out on the pasta)))
    Bread 35 rub * 2 = 70 r
    Oil 120 rub pack
    Cheese 250 gr - 230 rubles
    Milk - 70 rub
    Kefir - 80 rubles
    Potato - 120 rub 3 kg
    APPLES - 120 rubles
    Bananas - 65 rub
    This is about a thousand rubles.

    what region? Moscow? then don’t cry what’s expensive, you have good salaries there. our prices in the outback are completely different.
    bread 25, butter 80,90 - average, good 100, different cheese here you will not please everyone. milk package liter 43 rub. kefir 50 in my opinion. potatoes and apples - I don’t know the price. bananas about the same can rub 5-10 more expensive
    1. Campanella
      Campanella 9 September 2019 14: 03 New
      +1
      Depths are different. And what do you think of Muscovites? Come, live and enjoy with us)))
      In Moscow, people with different incomes live.
    2. dirk182
      dirk182 9 September 2019 14: 16 New
      0
      also not Moscow, but I can’t imagine going to the store for 1000 r
      1. Sergei71
        Sergei71 16 September 2019 05: 28 New
        0
        Smolensk. "trip" to the store - 1000 rub. standardly.
  • yehat
    yehat 9 September 2019 14: 15 New
    -4
    I have about the same basket of food for a week, only there are not so many dairy products (usually only 1 kefir or cottage cheese for a week), but there is chicken and watermelon
    fewer potatoes there are no apples (ours from the garden) and bananas, but I take buckwheat or beans and even for salads tomatoes cucumbers actually salad peas olives pepper greens.
    sorrel or cabbage for soups.
    1. purple
      purple 9 September 2019 18: 12 New
      -1
      Quote: yehat
      I have about the same basket of food for a week, only there are not so many dairy products (usually only 1 kefir or cottage cheese for a week), but there is chicken and watermelon
      fewer potatoes there are no apples (ours from the garden) and bananas, but I take buckwheat or beans and even for salads tomatoes cucumbers actually salad peas olives pepper greens.
      sorrel or cabbage for soups.

      They also forgot to add a deadwood ... and hunting for hedgehogs laughing laughing
      where do you come from only .... are you released at the Balabol factory chtoli ???
  • aiden
    aiden 10 September 2019 01: 18 New
    +2
    We have:
    Bread-22r (local)
    Oil-60 (local)
    Cheese-180 (local)
    Milk-40 (local)
    Kefir-50 (local)
    Potato-90r (3kg) (local)
    Apples-50-140 (local)
    Bananas-50-70 (xs from where)
    Cooked milk sausage -120r (local factory)
    Travel in a trolley bus - 15r

    Local dairy products from the factory, preferred to purchase. Vegetables are also local. I buy at fairs. It’s both cheaper and better than in stores. The city administration gathers farmers and organizes fairs in different areas of the city a couple of times a month. Stavropol Territory provides itself with food products.
  • Vanek
    Vanek 10 September 2019 03: 53 New
    +2
    Quote: Campanella
    Bread 35 rub * 2 = 70 r
    Oil 120 rub pack
    Cheese 250 gr - 230 rubles
    Milk - 70 rub
    Kefir - 80 rubles
    Potato - 120 rub 3 kg
    APPLES - 120 rubles
    Bananas - 65 rub


    CAMPANELLA !!!

    “You eat too much.”

    - What's that?

    - In the sense - snickering.


    Shirley-myrli.

    So!

    I am 35 years old, all that you have listed WEEKLY !!!! Except bread.

    Another thing I do not know how old you are and how many people in your family. But you can’t say it. Or lie.

    Do you want an idea?

    Going to the store for a loaf of bread and a bag of milk do not take a lot of money with you. Take a hundred rubles.

    Ok, 105. Here.

    You physically cannot spend more. Why do you need kefir, apples and bananas every day?

    In any other case:

    “You eat too much.”

    - In the mind ..
    1. Campanella
      Campanella 10 September 2019 11: 47 New
      -2
      You read carefully, I wrote to the store without a thousand, it makes no sense to go.
      I did not say that I buy every day and naturally I am not alone.
    2. Freeman
      Freeman 10 September 2019 13: 05 New
      +5
      Vanyok (Ivan) Today, 03: 53
      CAMPANELLA !!!

      “You eat too much.”

      - What's that?

      - In the sense - snickering.

      Shirley-myrli.


      Behold. Sapsem shook all the "braces".
      Accustomed to "damned commies", three times a day to eat.
      - And some, even a "afternoon snack" sin.
      But in the old way, according to the "Orthodox", think about the "soul", and not about the "mortal body."
      No wonder the "fast days" in the year from 178 to 212.
      From such a body, "the soul asks for heaven."
      wassat
  • vch
    vch 15 September 2019 19: 52 New
    +1
    It’s strange ..... I don’t know where you live, but today I was in the store ..... I bought 3 kg of potatoes. 18 rubles each, kefir 50 rubles. The most expensive apples were 80 rubles each, but I do not like them - I prefer local ones at 40 rubles. per kg ....... Yes, and bananas for 40 rubles. So something is wrong with your arithmetic .....
  • dirk182
    dirk182 9 September 2019 12: 28 New
    +9
    Well, tell me where to stock for 1 thousand wink so much so that from the belly
  • Petrograd
    Petrograd 9 September 2019 12: 47 New
    +16
    Quote: Less
    Well, if you take all this in 5 copies, then perhaps you really can’t do without a thousand ...

    Do you offer to eat macaroni? Recently, a lot of “smarties” have appeared from the galaxy of glackih & Co (in a strange way - 90% of which are members of the Edra party) - advising how to live, where, for how long.
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 9 September 2019 13: 18 New
      -22
      Quote: Petrograd
      Do you offer to eat macaroni?

      And what's wrong with pasta? You can add - pearl barley, very useful and nutritious, I recommend.
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 9 September 2019 13: 53 New
        +18
        It’s not bad in pasta, Vladimir, but in the fact that the salary of Minister Sokolova is almost 200000 rubles / m, she believed that she was supposed to eat by her status and dress differently. But she daaal advice on saving those who have different income orders ...... Do not you understand? Why suddenly began to pretend?
        Quote: bober1982
        Quote: Petrograd
        Do you offer to eat macaroni?

        And what's wrong with pasta? You can add - pearl barley, very useful and nutritious, I recommend.
        1. bober1982
          bober1982 9 September 2019 14: 03 New
          -26
          Quote: Reptiloid
          and the fact that the salary of Minister Sokolova is almost 200000r / m

          Is it good to count other people's money? why climb into someone else’s pocket.
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 9 September 2019 14: 10 New
            +19
            Vladimir, I’m on you wassat tongue Can I tell you exactly why Minister Sokolova is so bad am Received ???? I can only guess. And you yourself would have to read how she believed that she climbed into someone else's pocket.
            Is she your relative?
            1. bober1982
              bober1982 9 September 2019 14: 18 New
              -16
              Quote: Reptiloid
              Is she your relative?

              And your relative is Klara Zetkin (joke)
              1. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 9 September 2019 15: 01 New
                -2
                I got confused, forgot, thought you were from the same city.
                Relatives were from the Kaluga and Tula regions, the poorest peasantry of the non-black soil, had to work in factories
              2. bober1982
                bober1982 9 September 2019 15: 04 New
                -6
                Quote: Reptiloid
                thought you were from the same city

                I hear about this for the first time, I have no idea what city it is from. Yes, and you do not clog your head with any dregs.
              3. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 9 September 2019 17: 27 New
                -3
                It is good that the removal happened quickly and deservedly.
              4. bober1982
                bober1982 9 September 2019 17: 51 New
                -2
                Dima, what are you weaving? Young and stupid.
              5. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 9 September 2019 18: 38 New
                -3
                Quote: bober1982
                Dima, what are you ......
                Vladimir, I continue to die, and I’m not offended by you. wassat ! Only the deaf did not hear about this for a year. And if you didn’t hear, then why did you rush to the defense? Unclear. But ---- MILITARY REVIEW ------ To help you. Today to the article You may not be a pensioner ......--- One of the comrades video posted. Recommend.
              6. bober1982
                bober1982 9 September 2019 19: 16 New
                0
                You are a good guy, Dima
              7. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 9 September 2019 20: 02 New
                -2
                Quote: bober1982
                You are a good guy, Dima

                hi there are many worthy comrades good
  • Revival
    Revival 9 September 2019 14: 48 New
    +8
    It’s good and useful if the money in her pocket is taken out of yours, and she, being with the people on high maintenance, dares to teach him rude
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 9 September 2019 14: 53 New
      -15
      Quote: Revival
      Good and helpful

      And what good and useful? You do not pay attention, do not stir up unhealthy passions.
      1. Revival
        Revival 9 September 2019 14: 58 New
        +4
        Well, let them not kindle
      2. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 9 September 2019 17: 31 New
        +3
        Quote: Revival
        Well, let them not kindle
        probably every two weeks something sounds sound, confirming the formation of estates in our country. As it was. Different classes have different rights
      3. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 9 September 2019 22: 09 New
        0
        Quote: Reptiloid
        confirming the formation of estates in our country. As it was. Different classes have different rights

        Remind me how it ended?
      4. Saul_Rhen
        Saul_Rhen 10 September 2019 21: 02 New
        +1
        The formation of a new privileged estate, but with ideology)
  • Campanella
    Campanella 9 September 2019 15: 13 New
    +6
    It’s good and correct to count the salaries of those who run the country, resources and power!
    This is the norm of democracy. God bless you, a victim of propaganda!
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 9 September 2019 15: 16 New
      -13
      Quote: Campanella
      This is the norm of democracy.

      Of the liberals? - They started talking about the norms of democracy.
      1. Campanella
        Campanella 9 September 2019 17: 15 New
        +2
        Are you an anarchist? We have a liberal in Putin, and we are conservatives!
      2. bober1982
        bober1982 9 September 2019 18: 00 New
        -13
        Quote: Campanella
        We have the liberal Putin, and we are conservatives!

        You are agents of the State Department, English spies, representatives of LGBT people, and other and other - your name legionThe devil is your father.
      3. Campanella
        Campanella 9 September 2019 19: 06 New
        0
        Well, no need to generalize.
        I am a true patriot of my homeland and people, and not a notebook like some with property abroad.
        LGBT and other debauchery is rumored to the highest echelons. As for the Lord, forgive the darkest, he looks like you. And with us God and justice!
      4. bober1982
        bober1982 9 September 2019 19: 14 New
        -5
        Quote: Campanella
        And with us God and justice!

        The devil is the father of lies, the monkey of God.
      5. Campanella
        Campanella 9 September 2019 19: 16 New
        -1
        The true believer will not remember the name of the darkest in the bust. Why are you opening up like this?
      6. bober1982
        bober1982 9 September 2019 19: 18 New
        -3
        Quote: Campanella
        True believer

        Who is is true believer who is it?
      7. Campanella
        Campanella 9 September 2019 19: 31 New
        0
        Well, not you.
      8. bober1982
        bober1982 9 September 2019 19: 33 New
        -1
        You know better, I argue something, good luck.
      9. Campanella
        Campanella 9 September 2019 19: 34 New
        -2
        And good luck to you.
  • Pilat2009
    Pilat2009 11 September 2019 17: 06 New
    -2
    Quote: bober1982
    You are agents of the State Department, English spies, representatives of LGBT people, and other and other - your name is legion, your father is the devil.

    Write ischo dear friend. I am neither one nor the other nor the third
  • bober1982
    bober1982 11 September 2019 17: 25 New
    +2
    Pilat- curious Nick, license plate number on a car, by no means ... 666,?
  • Pilat2009
    Pilat2009 12 September 2019 06: 31 New
    -2
    Quote: bober1982
    Pilat- curious Nick, license plate number on a car, by no means ... 666,?

    I look at you for an unhealthy interest in occultism and other spiritual mysticism, since you constantly mention all evil spirits
  • bober1982
    bober1982 12 September 2019 07: 08 New
    +2
    I just drew attention to your Nick, from occultism, I immediately shy away.
  • Pilat2009
    Pilat2009 12 September 2019 09: 28 New
    -2
    Quote: bober1982
    I just drew attention to your Nick, from occultism, I immediately shy away.

    And this is what
    [quote = bober1982
    The devil is the father of lies, the monkey of God. [/ Quote]
  • bober1982
    bober1982 12 September 2019 11: 51 New
    +1
    Quote: Pilat2009
    And this is what

    From the interpretation of the Holy Fathers.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 9 September 2019 16: 14 New
    +7
    Quote: bober1982
    Is it good to count other people's money? why climb into someone else’s pocket.

    You, ladies and gentlemen - lovers of thieves' sayings, have already hesitated the whole society "with other people's money lying in other people's pockets."
    Money of state officials is taxes from the population, and we are not strangers to this money. These are strangers to them, because they do not have a single ruble earned by them. I would say - "alien." Based on the fact that the amount of the assigned allowance does not correspond to the volume of returns.
    Let them stand on the exchange, get the position of manager at a rate of 18-24 thousand and ... stop Keep calm! We even stop looking in their direction ... lol
    1. Campanella
      Campanella 9 September 2019 17: 17 New
      -1
      These are either trolls or youths with a "burning eye"
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 9 September 2019 18: 04 New
        -9
        You yourself are a troll, and the classic one, ran like flies to shit.
      2. Campanella
        Campanella 9 September 2019 19: 10 New
        0
        I didn’t run anywhere, I express my vision, I try to cut off pro-government and pro-Western propaganda.
        But you are noticeably biased or zombied. Power plays on your fears and feelings, and you don’t even see this.
      3. bober1982
        bober1982 9 September 2019 19: 52 New
        -3
        Quote: Campanella
        Power plays on your fears

        There is only one fear - this is the fear of God, and you are talking about some kind of power.
  • Sergei71
    Sergei71 16 September 2019 05: 36 New
    0
    This fuck ... n is not someone else's money, but out of my pocket money from all the clowns from the government. And the most important clown.
  • dirk182
    dirk182 16 September 2019 05: 57 New
    0
    I had such a friend (I don’t know where now). He ate only one barley. He cooks a 3-liter pan and adds “stew” there for 22 rubles. What kind of product I have no idea. And a person constantly ate this. Not just sporadically. It’s clear that you can eat empty pasta. There was time and ate. But then, after all, propaganda from TV screens did not flow so eagerly. That is why there is a discord among many. They began to live better, then eat macaroni. Either they increased pensions, then they want to introduce a 4-day working week. And so in everything. They probably put experiments on us.
  • Vol4ara
    Vol4ara 10 September 2019 10: 48 New
    +2
    Quote: Less
    Quote: Campanella
    Without 1, thousands no longer go to the store. It is only bread, milk, butter

    Well, if you take all this in 5 copies, then perhaps you really can’t do without a thousand ...

    Well, as if red caviar is already under 600 rubles, this is already what gates
  • Evil echo
    Evil echo 9 September 2019 14: 54 New
    +2
    Star, it's not tossing bags.
  • insafufa
    insafufa 10 September 2019 06: 47 New
    -1
    Hled 50r (loaf) butter 120 r (180g) milk (1l) 70r and where is 1000r for only the most necessary?
  • naidas
    naidas 10 September 2019 13: 32 New
    0
    Quote: Campanella
    Without 1 thousand they don’t go to the store anymore. It is only bread, milk, butter the most necessary.

    Dixie on 9.09.2019/XNUMX/XNUMX:
    bread-30rX5 = 150r.
    milk-45r (whole) X5 = 180r.
    oil-100r (Rogachevo share) X5 = 500r.
    Total: 830 rub.
  • 30143
    30143 13 September 2019 07: 03 New
    0
    But here the dollar is falling, and prices are worth it. For 30 years we have become accustomed to a constant increase in prices ... And here the stress is ...
  • yehat
    yehat 9 September 2019 11: 53 New
    -3
    3 pieces in different areas
  • Fitter65
    Fitter65 9 September 2019 12: 49 New
    +9
    Quote: Less
    If it’s no secret, how many chain stores did you manage to get around in the morning after the election?

    I don’t know about the chain stores, but on our “Flagship” 92nd instead of 42.25 rubles, it became 42.50 rubles.
    1. Zvonarev
      Zvonarev 9 September 2019 14: 22 New
      +1
      And our gas fell in price to 17 rubles, probably Gazprom is confident in its future
      1. Fitter65
        Fitter65 9 September 2019 14: 45 New
        +8
        Quote: Zvonarev
        And our gas fell in price to 17 rubles, probably Gazprom is confident in its future

        And we have electricity, up to 1.07. 19 years old was 4 rubles 25 kopecks, it became 4 rubles 50 kopecks, well, it's probably to make it easier to count wassat
        1. Zvonarev
          Zvonarev 9 September 2019 14: 48 New
          +9
          Well, it’s, of course, easier. Only again did they think. After all, 5.00 is even easier to count. But I think it was postponed to December, in early January, half of the country has problems with addition, and not only numbers
          1. Fitter65
            Fitter65 9 September 2019 14: 57 New
            +2
            Quote: Zvonarev
            Well, it’s, of course, easier. Only again did they think. After all, 5.00 is even easier to count.

            Yes, it’s quite possible that they’re
            Quote: Zvonarev
            postponed it to December
            drinks
      2. Freeman
        Freeman 10 September 2019 13: 12 New
        0
        Quote: Zvonarev
        And our gas fell in price to 17 rubles, probably Gazprom is confident in its future

        Suzdal - gas 20.98. A household cylinder of 50 liters - 800 rubles.
        True refueling is most likely private. But at the Gazprom Neft gas stations, for some reason there is no gas.
  • Campanella
    Campanella 9 September 2019 11: 27 New
    0
    She judges by her Ministry of Finance buffet.
  • purple
    purple 9 September 2019 13: 28 New
    -7
    Quote: yehat
    about the "death" of united Russia
    I found today that the next morning after the election, food chain chains amicably raised their prices, and for a number of items by 20-30%. Obviously, they were held until the election. I don’t understand one thing - how the people who own the administrative resource (and this is EDRo) have degraded to think that such tricks still work. Recently, Nabiullina talked about 4% inflation: og, I almost believe.
    recently bulk told how the deputy is grabbing. Sobyanina. Chubais in comparison with him is some kind of rogue.
    everything goes strictly according to Marx - degradation to the very edge and decomposition of the "top".
    we are no longer slipping, but literally flying towards the ugliest forms of capitalism.

    well what nonsense belay belay
  • dandelion
    dandelion 9 September 2019 13: 57 New
    +2
    So the tricks worked, only voters were degraded.
    1. Revival
      Revival 9 September 2019 14: 55 New
      +10
      Absolutely.
      According to the election results, we can say that our people deserve further reforms to improve their lives, such as retirement age up to 75 years, VAT at 40% and so on.
      Everyone, absolutely everyone was thrown cynically into the face a bunch of “gifts”, especially pension reform, and people nevertheless wiped themselves out, go and vote for EP, all the governors also went as one (fraud by fraud).
      Well, if they themselves do not respect themselves, then those whom they choose to respect them also have no reason.
      This means that reforms to improve the lives of the people by the people are deserved and necessary further ...
      1. Campanella
        Campanella 10 September 2019 11: 59 New
        +2
        In vain you are so about the people. We have a good people, but driven.
        There’s no time to raise your head from everyday life. Putin has long taken everything off himself and hanged on us! There is still enough conscience to speak about unity. What is the unity? Raise the tax on yourself rich, take off the benefits, eat ice cream at the Noginsk cold storage plant, live in a panel, work for the Kremlin like everyone on the metro and pool, pay your free out of your pocket and watch the main thing in the district clinic, then let's talk about paternalism!
  • Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 9 September 2019 14: 31 New
    0
    after the election, food chain chains amicably raised prices, and for a number of positions by 20-30%. Obviously, they were held until the election


    Specify in particular which stores you went to and what prices rose?
  • vlad106
    vlad106 11 September 2019 18: 13 New
    +1
    Quote: yehat
    recently bulk told how the deputy is grabbing. Sobyanina. Chubais in comparison with him is some kind of rogue.

    it is strange that United Russia and esche with Chubais creeps out
  • Loess
    Loess 9 September 2019 11: 07 New
    -4
    The Russian elections held on 8 of September excited the world press.
    And I learned about the election of currents from the news ... Last night ...
    1. Campanella
      Campanella 9 September 2019 11: 31 New
      +6
      Did they sit in a jail, or what?
      1. Vladimir16
        Vladimir16 9 September 2019 12: 56 New
        +3
        Quote: Less
        And I learned about the election of currents from the news ... Last night ...

        Well done! good
        And I did not care about these choices. Absolutely.
        Today I spoke about the elections a year in advance.

        Now is the last comment and I’ll get down to business.

        It was good under the Tsar - not any choices.
        Who wanted to climb to the top of the career ladder. Be it a clerk or a military man.
        The rest of the people lived their own lives.

        And under Stalin, the same situation was.

        And democracy is a divorce.

        And most importantly, people are nervous. laughing
      2. _Sergei_
        _Sergei_ 9 September 2019 13: 48 New
        +2
        Not everyone had an election. We did not have.
      3. Revival
        Revival 9 September 2019 17: 29 New
        -2
        Well, right in the jail, there are many other closed institutions with a "sincere" attitude towards citizens))))
  • Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 9 September 2019 11: 12 New
    +14
    As they were edr ... I, so they remained, rotten, stink of cynicism. mediocrity and dullness. Here is their destiny.
    1. kapitan92
      kapitan92 9 September 2019 11: 29 New
      +24
      Quotation: I.P.
      As they were edr ... I, so they remained, rotten, stink of cynicism. mediocrity and dullness. Here is their destiny.


      21,8% of the population with voting rights came to elect deputies of the Moscow City Duma !!!
      Really complete "popular support." laughing
      The rest "scored" in these elections, not believing the candidates from the ruling party, and the "manual opposition"! hi
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 9 September 2019 12: 10 New
        +21
        Quote: kapitan92
        21,8% of the population with voting rights came to elect deputies of the Moscow City Duma !!!
        Really complete "popular support."
        The rest "scored" in these elections, not believing the candidates from the ruling party, and the "manual opposition"!
        Here are the stick trees, when will you finally see clearly? The smaller the turnout, the better for the "Ruling and Guide"! The article mentions a voter who really went and did what a citizen should do, whose “party” is already sitting in the liver and she, at least somehow, has fought with her.
        “Russia is not developing, we are trapped in corruption,” says 32-year-old Julia, who did not want to give her name. “I came here today to change that.” I voted for the communist to take away the voice of "United Russia".
        While the majority, with a proud look, will use their fifth point to grind stools in kitchens, Edro will report on an unprecedented “increase” in life expectancy and salaries among Russians. Go to the polling station and take the vote from "Eat Russia" in favor of another party. Elections to the Duma in 2021 - most portfolios will remain behind the edrom, if a voter sitting in the kitchen, "gritting his teeth" will tear up the flesh of a dried roach, drinking it with beer and resting his nose on utility bills will increase the tariffs and his financial situation.
        1. kapitan92
          kapitan92 9 September 2019 12: 38 New
          -3
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          Here are the stick trees, when will you finally see clearly?

          Dmitry, hi What do you suggest that we all see clearly? The fact that all the “Opposition Parties” is a “Kremlin” project is that the irremovable leaders of these parties are happy with everything except the direction of budgetary cash flows.
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          The smaller the turnout, the better for the "Ruling and Guide"! The article mentions a voter

          I do not agree with you! By their appearance at the polls, the people express a complete distrust of the "ruling", and indeed all other "dolls." The item "against all" has long been removed.
          I went to the polls, saw 7 “snouts” on the list, which I hadn’t heard of, and voted “against everyone”, ruining my ballot.

          Quote: Nyrobsky
          and did what the citizen whose "party" is already sitting in the liver is doing and she, at least somehow, fought with her.

          Struggled, replacing one with another! Yes, I do not see the difference between them. I repeat that the whole "opposition" is a project of the "Kremlin", and all the "Dzyugozhirikimironovs" have long agreed and divided.
          Let me remind you that for 2015, the Just Russia party of Mironov was 86,4% funded from the federal budget! There everything is fine, and then directing.
          Complete disregard for the election, harder hit on this "system." (IMHO)



          Quote: Nyrobsky
          . Go to the polling station and take the vote from "Eat Russia" in favor of another party.

          I expressed my opinion, I think you understand me! hi
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 9 September 2019 13: 03 New
            +2
            Quote: kapitan92
            Let me remind you that for 2015, the Just Russia party of Mironov was 86,4% funded from the federal budget !.

            All registered large parties receive funding from the budget + party contributions + donations. Only Edro against their background, possessing a full-fledged administrative resource, as a bonus has a complete set of tools for cutting off unwanted candidates at the stage of submitting applications for participation in the elections (he himself went through this).
            Quote: kapitan92
            What do you suggest that we all see clearly? The fact that all the “Opposition Parties” is a “Kremlin” project is that the irremovable leaders of these parties are happy with everything except the direction of budgetary cash flows.

            Partly true, but not quite. Tell Vyacheslav why the “Communists of Russia" party was created under the existing "Communist Party"? I think so that when trying to register some kind of “Russia that is Unified than United”, the Justice Ministry would have a lot of reasons for refusing to register for the reason that this fornication could lead the voter into doubt and lead to an incorrect action by putting a tick in the ballot when giving preference for a particular batch. But no, with respect to the party which has consistently held the second place this is permissible and as a result of this manipulation, it is now fighting not with EP for the first place, but with the LDPR so as not to be in third place.
            Quote: kapitan92
            I went to the polls, saw 7 “snouts” on the list, which I hadn’t heard of, and voted “against everyone”, ruining my ballot.
            No, of course this is also an act. You at least left the keyboard sector and even so, but did not allow the "election commissions" to take advantage of your absence and the ballot.
            Quote: kapitan92
            Complete disregard for the election, harder hit on this "system." (IMHO)
            It can be argued, but not convinced along the way. We’ll soon come to the conclusion that the news will say: “In the course of an internal vote among the members of the EP party, as a result of the elections, EP won because no one came to the polls.” hi
            1. kapitan92
              kapitan92 9 September 2019 13: 41 New
              0
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              Tell Vyacheslav why the party "Communists of Russia" was created under the existing "Communist Party"

              Party genesis "Communists of Russia" dates back to 2004, when a split occurred in the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (CPRF). One of the reasons for the split was the defeat of the Communist Party in the parliamentary (2003) and presidential (2004) elections in Russia, a significant weakening of its position. Despite the fact that the inner-party opposition fiercely criticized the leader of the Communist Party Zyuganov for opportunism, the split of the Communist Party did not occur on ideological grounds. Indirectly, the fact that one of the inspirers of the split were Gennady Semigin, a businessman, a former member of the Communist Party, now the head of the bourgeois party "Patriots of Russia", as well as those functionaries who for one reason or another could not find a place in the leadership or deputy corps of the Communist Party.

              Quote: Nyrobsky
              Soon we’ll come to the news that they will say: “In the course of an internal vote among the members of the EP party, as a result of the elections, EP won because no one came to the polls”

              That's for sure! Since 2006, the same turnout threshold was canceled, which means that the elections are considered valid even if at least one person voted when he came to the polls.
              Previously, before the adoption of this law, thresholds were established that clearly regulated the percentage of voters in order for the elections to be held valid, as follows:

              elections to the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation - the threshold is 25%;
              election of the President of the Russian Federation - at least 50% of voters;
              if the election is regional, then the threshold was 20%. hi
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 9 September 2019 14: 12 New
                -1
                Quote: kapitan92
                Party genesis

                This is not the genesis of Vyacheslav, this is the systematic work of the authorities to discredit the Communist Party relying on "party moles" and to sever part of its electorate using the election results for a split. It’s ridiculous to deny that they did it. Happened.
                1. kapitan92
                  kapitan92 9 September 2019 16: 24 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  This is not the genesis of Vyacheslav, this is the systematic work of the authorities to discredit the Communist Party relying on "party moles" and to sever part of its electorate using the election results for a split. It’s ridiculous to deny that they did it. Happened.

                  Not certainly in that way! The "Communists" discredited themselves, primarily through their actions since the 90s. I will not list their "exploits." There is no "fresh blood" in this party, any encroachment on its permanent leader Jugu is perceived as a run-in on the ideological component. They drove themselves into a "corner", and the systematic work of the authorities to destroy and discredit competitors is present, you are right in this! hi
                2. Revival
                  Revival 9 September 2019 17: 31 New
                  0
                  At the moment, the weakest and most repulsive place of the Communist Party is Zyuganov, rather as a common noun.
                  The most direct anchor m stone in the way of the party
                  1. Nyrobsky
                    Nyrobsky 9 September 2019 19: 08 New
                    0
                    Quote: Revival
                    At the moment, the weakest and most repulsive place of the Communist Party is Zyuganov, rather as a common noun.
                    The most direct anchor m stone in the way of the party

                    Absolutely right. Could already move, giving way to a younger and more daring, moving to the post of some kind of adviser at ...
              2. Campanella
                Campanella 10 September 2019 12: 03 New
                -4
                Genesis is too serious a term for a Kremlin samopal! A miscarriage of a court Kremlin political strategist.
        2. Pedrodepackes
          Pedrodepackes 9 September 2019 12: 38 New
          -5
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          Here are the stick trees, when will you finally see clearly? The smaller the turnout, the better for the "Ruling and Guide"! The article mentions a voter who really went and did something

          Theoretically, you are right, I also go and vote for "not", but for whom is it possible to cast a vote? Four "opposition" parties declared pocket, Navalny, for some reason bad (how many did not ask why, except for minuses - nothing, or blah blah blah like I hear from pro-Putin talking heads), opposition candidates tried to restore justice during registration they were dispersed to the polls under the screams of the public "Atu them!" So for whom to cast a vote?
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 9 September 2019 14: 02 New
            -3
            Quote: Pedrodepackes
            Theoretically, you are right, I also go and vote for "not", but for whom is it possible to cast a vote? Four "opposition" parties declared pocket, Bulk, for some reason bad (how many did not ask why, except for minuses - nothing, or blah blah blah like what I hear from a zombie man from pro-Putin speaking heads), opposition candidates tried to restore justice when registering for elections, they dispersed to the scream of the public "Atu them!" So for whom to cast a vote?
            Are you kidding? Because the minuses and you sculpt, as it is really bad. He is not an oppositionist, he is a dancer, and he dances the party “yours and ours”, getting pocketed from both of them. That mole too. Therefore, choose any one of the three remaining parties of the Liberal Democratic Party, the Communist Party, the SR and withdraw your vote against Edra. And yes, minus is not mine. hi
            1. Pedrodepackes
              Pedrodepackes 9 September 2019 14: 08 New
              0
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              Are you kidding? Because the minuses and you sculpt, as it is really bad.

              firstly, I "don’t drown" for it (for now), I just ask, like many others, I want to understand.
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              choose any one of the three remaining parties of the Liberal Democratic Party, the Communist Party, SR

              so what are these better? Liberals, commies, and hidden edros.
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              And yes, minus is not mine.

              I don’t give a damn about your minus, you’d better tell me than the opposition is bad, if its edros are afraid like fire, and the electorate yells “attack them!”, so what is the point of going to the polls?
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 9 September 2019 14: 30 New
                +2
                Quote: Pedrodepackes
                so what are these better? Liberals, commies, and hidden edros.
                Well, the “commies” are at least all the better because for 70 years they have created the industrial and military potential that the liberals and hidden edros have been kicking for 28 years and which is still supporting Russia afloat. Not these "commies", but the previous ones, but nonetheless. At least their program is more socially, socially, person-oriented.
                Quote: Pedrodepackes
                you better tell me than the opposition is bad if its edros are afraid like fire
                Damn, where do you see the opposition in the "opposition" presented at the rally? This is a "screen", "fake", as you like, but this is not the opposition.
                Quote: Pedrodepackes
                I don’t give a damn about your minus,
                Maladie. hi
                1. Pedrodepackes
                  Pedrodepackes 9 September 2019 14: 41 New
                  -8
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  Well, "commies" at least the better

                  it is clear, drown for the commies. Well no, sorry
                  1. Nyrobsky
                    Nyrobsky 9 September 2019 17: 25 New
                    0
                    Quote: Pedrodepackes
                    it is clear, drown for the commies. Well no, sorry

                    Why "drown"? Not drowning, but stating. Well then refute all those achievements of the USSR that he achieved under the Communists, before the appearance and betrayal of Gorbachov, if you can. Of the three parties you listed, you think that the only "liberals" and "hidden edros" carried out large-scale industrialization and electrification of the whole country, built tens of thousands of enterprises and factories, created the best education system, which was taken as the basis for the development of education by some countries of "developed capitalism" themselves, created affordable medicine, mastered space, created an atom and a neutron, etc. What is the contradiction?
                    1. Pedrodepackes
                      Pedrodepackes 9 September 2019 18: 42 New
                      -6
                      Quote: Nyrobsky
                      Of the three parties you listed, in your opinion, only "liberals" and "hidden edros" carried out large-scale industrialization and electrification of the whole country, built tens of thousands of enterprises and factories

                      and who built it all in the USA, Great Britain, Germany, France?
                      Quote: Nyrobsky
                      better education system

                      here’s another mantra, can you at least explain who determined this?
                      Quote: Nyrobsky
                      created an atom and a neutron
                      yeah, winter has passed, summer has come - thanks to the party for this laughing and write
                      Quote: Nyrobsky
                      I do not drown

              2. Ross xnumx
                Ross xnumx 9 September 2019 18: 14 New
                -2
                Quote: Pedrodepackes
                I don’t give a damn about your minus, you better tell me clearly than the opposition is bad if its edros are afraid like fire, and the electorate yells "attack them!"

                I will try to answer you. The opposition in the State Duma is therefore bad in that it does nothing, lives at state expense, receives awards from the president’s hands (no one refused the award - only Perelman), they sit out their pants where their opinions are not taken into account at all. In this regard, the opposition of Navalny is much more respectable - budget money is not spent on him, and edrosov hate him even more. Having in their hands a much greater power (immunity, the possibility of using reliable data), they do not work on the likeness of FBK. The only person - Platoshkin N.N. He showed how to agitate and explain his program and position on resolving economic issues.
                Edros are afraid of only one thing, that it may reach the people that the pyramid built by the EBN gang, despite the tricks of the "permanent guarantor", may collapse. And they will flee abroad, as the rich fled in 18, as the stolen fled in the 90s, as the "current" retired or forced. Although, the family is not complete without amateur beekeepers.
                Quote: Pedrodepackes
                it turns out, what's the point of going to the polls?

                The only reason to go to the polls is that if the turnout is big, then even the most fabulous candidate will not be able to get 146%.
                The September 8th election is the most cynical, most vile option since the last presidential full house. Shameful agitation, vulgar techniques. More time is spent on Ukraine on air than on solving its own problems.
                Yes. We must go to the polls - it makes sense. Or you have to meet the Russian rebellion - meaningless and merciless.
        3. Alexander Ra
          Alexander Ra 9 September 2019 13: 03 New
          0
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          While the majority, will be with a proud look, its fifth point to grind stools in the kitchens

          Conversion System:
          Campanella
          Filtering candidates, administrative resources, spoilers, outright propaganda of pro-government candidates, carousels, stuffing, dead souls, falsification of protocols, misrepresentation is far from a complete arsenal of "victorious weapons" of United Russia.

          - refines elections - clears the result of the will of voters. The result is monotonous - legitimation of management, regardless of the content of its actions.
          Give examples of important innovations from the 90s that correspond to the will of voters (without touching Crimea)?
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 9 September 2019 13: 54 New
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Ra
            - refines elections - clears the result of the will of voters. The result is monotonous - legitimation of management, regardless of the content of its actions.
            Give examples of important innovations from the 90s, consistent with the will of voters
            Hmm .... Alexander, the "important innovations" last time just happened according to the "will of Moscow voters" exactly in the 90s, which brought to power the party that is experimenting with the Russian population today. Now there is a need for the “will” of the electorate, but there is no way to show the “will”, due to the fact that the “Moscow elector” is not living badly, and the peripheral is convinced that there is no point in going to the polls. nothing depends on their voice. Interestingly, but not a small proportion of the potential voter agreed with this and bursts this carrot before each election, and after the election it groans for another five years until retirement and sucks its paw, instead of the promised foot of a hazel grouse with pineapple sauce. What kind of “will and innovations” are you talking about if the majority in the Duma is behind the EDR, and laws are passed by a majority vote? By joining their votes, all parties represented in the Duma cannot influence the outcome of the adoption of laws in view of the fact that the majority by any means remains with Edra. In 2021, the people will have a chance to change the situation if EDRO loses a majority in the Duma, but whether he will seize this chance ... or pick up a carrot in the same way.
            1. Revival
              Revival 9 September 2019 14: 29 New
              +4
              Apparently "picks up" a carrot.
              Judging by the results of these elections, the people deserve something that has even more, apparently few improvements
            2. Campanella
              Campanella 9 September 2019 17: 37 New
              -1
              There will be no chance, they are now ready to modernize the electoral legislation. That is. they use the administrative resource by changing the conditions of the elections, while they themselves are already making the necessary preparations.
              So the people are one step but late.
        4. nik13
          nik13 9 September 2019 17: 02 New
          -2
          eco ran here - one-time))
        5. Sergei71
          Sergei71 16 September 2019 05: 52 New
          +1
          Always voted for the Communist Party. There are, of course, more than enough questions to them, but ....
      2. dirk182
        dirk182 9 September 2019 12: 40 New
        -2
        The Moscow City Duma came to elect deputies
        we build, yes, on a day off)
    2. Victorio
      Victorio 9 September 2019 12: 10 New
      +1
      Quotation: I.P.
      As they were edr ... I, so they remained, rotten, stink of cynicism. mediocrity and dullness. Here is their destiny.

      ===
      Well, yes, they are aliens, and you are all white and fluffy
    3. dirk182
      dirk182 9 September 2019 12: 39 New
      +4
      Yes, we have it everywhere, by and large. The Liberal Democratic Party rides pens and T-shirts in the regions it distributes, EDRO (in my city) ice cream and trampolines for children, free selfie for adults laughing The Communist Party of the Russian Federation will issue a well to someone’s own grandmother before the election. I understood one thing: all these pseudo-people of the people go to power in order to do dark things under the roof of their deputy status. Spit on high goals. Well, Navalny + associates. There is a lot of screaming, but few things. Some revelations. If only a European court was filed against whom. See a conflict of interest. Also eager for the feeder.
      1. Squelcher
        Squelcher 9 September 2019 14: 18 New
        -1
        That's the point!
  • Campanella
    Campanella 9 September 2019 11: 14 New
    +10
    "We get the most everywhere."
    The question is how do you get it, Mr. Turchak?
    Filtering candidates, administrative resources, spoilers, outright propaganda of pro-government candidates, carousels, stuffing, dead souls, falsification of protocols, misrepresentation is far from a complete arsenal of "victorious weapons" of United Russia.
    1. Nestorych
      Nestorych 9 September 2019 11: 55 New
      +8
      Part of the manipulations:

      “Well, comrades, I congratulate you on the new and old Governor of St. Petersburg Beglov. We are all doomed to a minimum of technological and infrastructural breakthroughs, failures and landslides in Putin's style for the next 5 years!
      Who is guilty of this? And we ourselves, and of course fraud.
      Yes! We are guilty in the first place. On my site 2144, where I was in the ChRPG, the result of the exit pool (attentive attitude to ballots thrown into the ballot box, because 80% of the voters didn’t put them together, the checkmarks were perfectly visible) showed that Beglov was given at least 37% of the vote, and the average maximum (taking into account what can not be seen) should be 40-45% - with an honest calculation. More precisely - in the first 20 for it was 50%, by the end of the first hundred - 45%, by the 40th ballot - 557%, and by the end (186 in the stationary box) 33.3 for Beglova (2183%). It is worth noting that a total of 10 people could vote on the site. Hence the conclusions. So, those who shouted enchantedly were “extremely wrong”: “Only fools will vote for Beglov, whom barely XNUMX% will be typed” - those who shouted turned out to be fools.
      So, in the first round Beglov didn’t lose outright, with a guarantee, in the worst case he would be the second (if everyone voted for Tikhonova or Amosov). But the voices were divided - and therefore Beglov was the undisputed leader.
      Well, then the falsification of the counting began. First - ballot boxes for home voting. The first 2 ballot boxes left at 8-40 and 9-10, and they ran at the same time at ... 19-15 !!! That is, they walked somewhere for more than 10 hours. And the same thing on the neighboring site (we had 2 sites in one gym of school 322, plus a third in the dining room). The third urn went camping at 14-40, and returned to 18 hours.
      Ballot box counting - in the third there were 10 ballots, 8 for Beglov and 2 for Amosov (and the same number of municipal ones). The second 75 (with a maximum allowed by law 50) - and ALL for Beglov - statistically the probability of this is less than 0.01% - even if 80% of the population also voted for Beglov. And the third ballot box - 84 ballots - the head of the precinct precinct forbid them to consider them separately from the total mass from the stationary box. BUT! At the stage of analyzing ballots, I personally didn’t come across a single one not Beglov, plus I drew attention to the strangeness - pieces of 10-15 municipal forms were filled in the same way as a carbon copy (then it got out).
      Then the stationary urn - it was disassembled into the governor and municipal parts, the third governor urn was mixed into them, and they began to count. First, they counted the total number of pieces (632), then distributed packs of 100 pieces to each KhRPG, and he sorted them by last name, depending on his honesty, and then these amounts ... WERE NOT announced, were taken by the head of the precinct, summed up in the head, and the results announced !!! The calculation results were NOT checked. In general, in no way - neither the small stacks of Tikhonov and Amosov were counted, nor the Beglov stack was checked for the correct identification of the ballots. Any attempts to cast a vote were thwarted by the vote “who is for the fact that a PEC member interferes with the election?” with unanimous answers that I should be expelled. Since at that moment I had a STEALED sheet of records of all previous results (and the voting process itself), and apart from me, NOBODY kept any records, EVEN secretary of the PEC, there were basically no paper confirmations of the entire previous process, no! Only that which was deposited in someone's memory.
      By the way, the MANDATORY large form of the results for the general inspection was NOT completed in accordance with the law.
      Then leapfrog with municipal ballots, where everyone puts a maximum of 5 votes. They were counted, packs distributed according to the ChRPG, we began to count them by adding them to the form, and under the supervision of just observers (thanks to them, this greatly accelerated the process). And here a new know-how (more precisely, according to Gorbachev, how-know) - the pivot table was NOT sorted by last name, which gave at least a three-fold extension of the duration of the calculation process (about one and a half hours for this part). In the course of the audit, the neighbor of the SPRG said. That she had something a lot in a row of identical forms - they took it, took a closer look - at least 27 consecutive blank forms were ticked for the same candidates, all from the LDPR (Ivanova, Luzhbin, Novik, Shapkraits, Shirova). They agreed to consider them fake, BUT without recounting the rest of the pack (and generally all others). And I have this five also appeared on many forms - it’s just that the very 84 home-based bulletins turned out to be consecutive pieces from different counters, but this was noticed only by one.
      After that, the head of the PEC said that they had all sent, collected 6 summary tables, and somewhere quietly summed up - NOBODY saw a common table of all 6 subtotals, or could check the correctness of the summation. Attempt to object = next exile vote.
      TOTAL. According to my PEC 2144, 63% of the votes were cast for Beglov, and in the municipalities, he didn’t even look, pointless, useless. Pavel Shvets, who was present at the count, said that the same thing happened in several other polling stations, both in terms of the time homeworkers left, in the number of votes for Beglov in them, and in the fact that the ballot boxes were portable and stationary. Only municipal identities we noticed first (probably).
      PS. Well, not only about the bad, it was fun ... For example, during the voting, right at our PEC 2144, school gym 322, a piece of plaster, about 3 square meters, collapsed. A trifle, but (not) nice! And plus, the self-nominated United Russia candidate Dosson, who was present at the site, did not get a copy of the protocol - the head of the PEC very quickly tried to cover up the tracks, which did not even bother with the number of copies (and I accidentally scratched myself the last one).
      RESULTS OF ELECTIONS: How much you don’t vote - you still get x * y !!!
      PPS For the "Honesty" of the vote count, thank you very much to the head of the PEC, Zhivutskaya Vladislav Viktorovna. "
      1. Campanella
        Campanella 9 September 2019 12: 49 New
        +5
        Kindergarten! Pamfilova lips pout about fair elections.
        The first rule of fair elections is the transparent results of all preliminary calculations and recalculations. This is not, it means talking about the popularly elected is stupid. And if you turn on the logic, the people resemble kamikaze — they persistently continue to elect those representatives in the state bodies who systematically worsen the quality of their lives.
  • sergo1914
    sergo1914 9 September 2019 11: 16 New
    +23
    . As the author of the article concludes, the United Russia party, created in 2001 “for the sake of supporting Putin,” has “lost its popularity” in recent years. One of the reasons for the loss of popularity is called the sanctions of the West.



    Sanctions have nothing to do with it. The loss of popularity is the merit of 100% of the EP members themselves. Dullness, greed, incompetence, lack of any signs of professionalism. And the higher the EP member in the hierarchy, the worse the situation with these criteria. We will endure sanctions. But the lack of servants of the people the ability to get drunk ...
    1. Puzoter
      Puzoter 9 September 2019 11: 38 New
      +4
      They described everything very accurately, I subscribe to every word.
  • andrei2911
    andrei2911 9 September 2019 11: 17 New
    +16
    A turnout of 20% is not an election. This means that the people do not believe not in elections, not in power. Reminds pre-revolutionary - the top can not, the bottom do not want.
    1. Campanella
      Campanella 9 September 2019 11: 26 New
      +2
      It’s one place for them. Deputies living outside the region from which they stand are already talking about fraud.
      In Moscow, this is very noticeable.
    2. dirk182
      dirk182 9 September 2019 12: 48 New
      +2
      so it will definitely blow! the question is when.
      1. depressant
        depressant 9 September 2019 13: 40 New
        +6
        Yes, I also naively believed that the turnout was 23,1%, as was announced by the press yesterday afternoon. It was even shyly informed by the election commission of some Siberian region that the villages were empty because the people had gone to collect nuts. A bag of peeled 1800 rubles, a family is able to collect 20-30 bags a day, a supply of money for the winter, and delivery points - a string of trucks on the road. This year's harvest is rich, ”the head of the district election commission added with a sigh. Like, do not judge us strictly for the total absence of turnout. And so - throughout the country, one misfortune for election commissions, then another. But now Ren-TV specifically included it, and there are bravura statements about the turnout at 41,8%, which is higher than in previous years, and about the almost universal deafening victory of EDRA. And this despite the fact that every day you have to hear curses on the corruption that this party produces.
        And what should I think? Either the Sobol-Navalny operation in the minds of voters worked right before the polls closed, or very stuffing is now being done very skillfully.
  • Sergei 777
    Sergei 777 9 September 2019 11: 26 New
    +4
    It’s funny to watch how the Edro hide from the people lol . 146% of support dissolved fellow
  • The popuas
    The popuas 9 September 2019 11: 27 New
    +5
    Chelyabinsk region ... Texler protege of the GDP ran for self-nominee lol
  • erofich
    erofich 9 September 2019 11: 27 New
    +5
    The opposition is a gorlopan gang, not an opposition. They consider themselves the opposition, but we do not have it. The purchased gang is not opposition.
    1. Campanella
      Campanella 9 September 2019 12: 30 New
      +1
      Interestingly, who deprived us of the real opposition?
  • rocket757
    rocket757 9 September 2019 11: 32 New
    +2
    The patient is like ...... but you can’t say that he’s not alive, it’s just that the majority does not care what will happen to him!
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 9 September 2019 14: 01 New
      0
      Victor! Did not understand you? After all, do you have animals? If a creature eats and demonstrates waste products --- it lives.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 9 September 2019 14: 14 New
        +3
        Quote: Reptiloid
        waste products --- it lives.

        The trouble \ trouble is that these wastes do not seem to interfere with many !!! Sniffed, dangled .... do not want to realize that the measure should have EVERYTHING! And so, they think that they will put on a "respirator" thicker and boots higher and everything will be a bunch? So maybe it’s the best way to get it when nothing helps!
        Or they hope that it will resolve itself, another Hercules will appear and the next feat will be accomplished, deceived, washed away !!!
        But it will NOT be! We all need to do the cleaning together!
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 9 September 2019 14: 55 New
          +3
          Yes, there is more and more waste every day, in every sense. And eating more and better.
        2. depressant
          depressant 9 September 2019 14: 58 New
          +6
          By the way, about waste products.
          Here is such a gentleman from Edra - Andrei Turchak. Being the governor of the Pskov region in 2010, he forbade the adoption of children even by Russians, and therefore from journalists he received a foul-smelling nickname starting with “s”. He would not have noticed, but the case of the nickname he sensitively inflated, demonstrating mental abilities. What successfully continues to do now.
          On Friday, September 6th, two days before the vote, he announced that 60% of edrosovtsy would go to the Moscow City Duma. So you can hand over plans? Well, 25 leaked. Almost 60%.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 9 September 2019 15: 02 New
            +2
            Quote: Reptiloid
            Yes, there is more and more waste every day, in every sense. And eating more and better.

            Vaska listens and eats!
            Quote: depressant
            On Friday, September 6th, two days before the vote, he announced that 60% of edrosovtsy would go to the Moscow City Duma. So you can hand over plans? Well, 25 leaked. Almost 60%.

            Although he has grown fat, he knows how to "leak out" .... an amorphous creature, stuck his nose, consider everything is already there!
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 9 September 2019 15: 23 New
              +1
              Just amazed at the words about 60%! Well, I wanted to demonstrate that he is a person wassat wassat approximate or, what can he influence everything? In the horror!
          2. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 9 September 2019 15: 17 New
            0
            banned adoption ?? ettto how? How can this be subject to him? EVENING I will read about it ..... request request
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 9 September 2019 16: 38 New
              +4
              Quote: Reptiloid
              banned adoption ?? ettto how? How can this be subject to him? EVENING I will read about it ..... request request

              I don’t know how much this is a fact, but the fact that a high-ranking official can slow down this process can confirm almost to zero! Just do not put a signature and EVERYTHING!
              And you can’t get around it, strict hierarchy of submission!
              1. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 9 September 2019 17: 23 New
                +1
                Ahhhh, of course, all sorts of unofficial instructions and nit-picking ..... well, yes, sitting high, whatever is available .... in the evening I read how it is written ....
              2. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 9 September 2019 20: 07 New
                +1
                It is a fact.Victor. But I didn’t read everything, and there is a lot written. We must read everything carefully.
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 10 September 2019 07: 43 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  It is a fact.Victor. But I didn’t read everything, and there is a lot written. We must read everything carefully.

                  I won’t say anything about the governor, I didn’t read it, I came across here! It took a lot of work and time to overcome this tramp.
                  1. Reptiloid
                    Reptiloid 10 September 2019 09: 04 New
                    +2
                    Yes, Victor, I know that you really know about this topic. Huge respect for you because you think not only about yourself, but also about others. Literally. About the cancellation of adoption by an official then ----- I read, but not enough and --- not enough to say. In general, the topic is complicated.
                    A biography deserves to be studied attentively. I didn’t think about different facts and didn’t even know them. Especially interesting about family ownership, somewhere I saw such a phrase ..... last statement ----Yer ---- gasped everyone.
                    These words deserve to be known to everyone. This is just a proverb !!!!. Or aphorism?
                    1. rocket757
                      rocket757 10 September 2019 09: 19 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Reptiloid
                      the last saying ---- yer ---- withered everyone.
                      These words deserve to be known to everyone. This is just a proverb !!!!. Or aphorism?

                      This is WE ourselves and so and so ..... we are still experimenting! It seems like such a post-Soviet game .... nowhere is more stupid, and who else can be more stupid ??? could however.
                      1. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 10 September 2019 09: 25 New
                        +2
                        I thought something like that! Well, yes, it’s not just the first time, but many times over the past few years, with the pension reform, too. Here are the immediate words ......
  • canurodes
    canurodes 9 September 2019 11: 33 New
    +9
    Over the past 20 years, United Russia has become a corruption swamp. Started for health, ended for peace. Now there are no people there, those who want to sit closer to the feeding trough are going there.
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 9 September 2019 12: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: canurodes
      .. Now there are no people there, those who want to sit closer to the feeding trough go there.


      The ruling party ... it has always been and always will be ..
      1. depressant
        depressant 9 September 2019 18: 03 New
        0
        Yes, it was and will be so, but not quite. Not a party - parties should rush to the feeding trough (let’s not dissemble), that is, to power. And so they should rush to it, and their leaders should have such a force of conviction that the people will begin to choose one of them as president, then the other, then the third, if there are more than two parties. And then something will budge. But it will move because there are campaign promises pinned to the wall, or framed in each apartment, and if at least a small part of them is fulfilled, then even in this case the country will develop, otherwise the party is a political corpse.
        But our parties are decorative, they simply decorate the interior of democracy, they are not even corpses and not zombies, they are decoration details, they are dead things. In order not to harm EP in the presidential and other elections, they nominate obviously impassable candidates. How it is? The parliamentary party - and does not seek to come to power? So why do people contain these parasites?
        I remember once in our village they elected a mayor - a circus with horses! The future mayor held meetings in the courtyards, but went to those meetings, accompanied by aunts from the district of Edra. The people were screaming, the future mayor was silent, the aunts were breaking off, the man received tremendous stress, which prompted him to some activity in comparison with the previous mayor. And when the elections were canceled, activity for good also died out, activity began to roll back. Four times this summer they plastered a neighboring high-rise building! Finally they took away the working change house. And what do I see today? Dry closet returned to the place! So tomorrow there will be a change house again, and they will plaster for the fifth time. The elections have taken place! And so - on a national scale. This is when the election is the scenery. Just do not convince me of its political necessity, based on the presence of a hostile environment.
    2. lukewarm
      lukewarm 9 September 2019 12: 39 New
      +5
      Quote: canurodes
      Over the past 20 years, United Russia has become a corruption swamp. Started for health, ended for peace.

      This kublo for health never began. Where did she go from? Of the two Yeltsin parties, "Unity" and "Our Home-Russia" (the so-called. "Housekeepers"). Sobsno party "strong business executives" and careerists. And there has never been another.
  • Igor Pa
    Igor Pa 9 September 2019 11: 34 New
    +10
    Chopped! Degradation of power is a worldwide phenomenon. They all broke away from the people, became nobles. In Germany, the same canoe. Social democrats and Christians lose. Go green and adg. People are getting poorer, prices are rising. Long live the world revolution! Hooray comrades!
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 9 September 2019 12: 06 New
      -4
      Quote: Igor Pa
      ... In Germany, the same canoe. ..... Long live the world revolution! Hooray comrades!


      Here in Germany and revolutionize ... and we will see ...
      1. Victorio
        Victorio 9 September 2019 13: 39 New
        +3
        Quote: Nasr
        Here in Germany and revolutionize ... and we'll see ...

        ===
        so once and from there it all started
  • u4iy
    u4iy 9 September 2019 11: 40 New
    +6
    This is not a party this is a union of officials .....)))))
    1. DEDPIHTO
      DEDPIHTO 9 September 2019 12: 48 New
      +7
      ,, The trade union ,, is very thieving, with nepotism and mutual responsibility, therefore a different definition is appropriate here, according to the Criminal Code ...
  • 16112014nk
    16112014nk 9 September 2019 11: 49 New
    +2
    26 pedros without washing, so we all climbed into the Moscow City Duma. Who voted for them? fool
    1. dirk182
      dirk182 9 September 2019 12: 49 New
      0
      MUPs, FSUEs, etc. etc. as if unknown
  • yehat
    yehat 9 September 2019 11: 54 New
    -8
    Quote: Campanella
    oil is the most necessary.

    sorry, but butter is not the most necessary product
  • Corn
    Corn 9 September 2019 11: 59 New
    -17
    They arrived, and now the Military Review was sold to the Anglo-Saxon Russophobes, who, through Navalny, are rocking our stability and prosperity in Russia, trying to remove Putin and his party from power.
    1. mikle1999
      mikle1999 9 September 2019 12: 12 New
      +11
      Do not worry, Putin will definitely be in power until his death. His or Russia, so what comes sooner.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 9 September 2019 20: 59 New
        -1
        Quote: mikle1999
        Putin will definitely be in power until his death. His or Russia, so what comes sooner.

        better not say !!!!!!!!!! good
    2. akunin
      akunin 9 September 2019 13: 07 New
      +7
      which through Navalny rock our stability and prosperity in Russia
      by three letters of bulk. please about well-being and in more detail, about stability too. about well-being, I really want to hear (which is growing by the hour), and the growth of well-being has led to an increase in life expectancy for five months by five years (it doesn’t matter, which’s parallel the number of deaths exceeded the number of births by 200 thousand) -stability however
      1. depressant
        depressant 9 September 2019 15: 40 New
        +4
        Corn, do not worry about Putin, such a person cannot be picked up.
        Here, for example, is what Peskov says about Putin, who took control of Tulun (manual mode).

        "Because, of course, when he sees some kind of human pain, human despair, he always perceives this as his own ..." Think what will come next? Maybe the word "pain"?
        Oh no!
        What follows is: "... as your own problem." Other people's pain and despair with zero empathy, do you know how they are perceived? With a sigh: "Again, harness the local administrative cretins. But he appointed one himself. Okay, we are following the established populist scheme."
        There is no pain in Putin’s heart, and slight annoyance, all the more ostentatious, does not eat health. Therefore, he will live a long time. And the inaction of the administration in Tulun, and opposition rallies in Moscow are staged videos. Putin has enough of these videos in stock to stay in power until the end of his days. The directorial department of the Presidential Administration is always at work.
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 9 September 2019 21: 02 New
          -1
          Quote: depressant
          what Peskov says about Putin

          Sands always ...

          Quote: depressant
          Putin has such videos in stock

          all over Russia is not enough.
  • aries2200
    aries2200 9 September 2019 12: 44 New
    +6
    we eat Russia, the party of bloodsuckers of the Russian people ......................
  • Svarog
    Svarog 9 September 2019 12: 55 New
    +6
    EP is a party of billionaires, which does not care about ordinary citizens of the country, the results of EP are determined only by the admin resource, I’m sure that by the next election they will have a new party where all these scammers will flow safely. For EP has already broken through the bottom.
  • Campanella
    Campanella 9 September 2019 12: 56 New
    +5
    They are not shy about anything. If it gets really bad, they will create a new one, for example: "Our Russia."
    Here are the previous names: “Choice of Russia” (1993), “Our Home is Russia” (1995), “Unity” and “Fatherland - All Russia” (1999), and finally, the party “United Russia”
  • seacap
    seacap 9 September 2019 13: 07 New
    +8
    I do not believe. I have long been convinced that if the elections had decided something, then they would have been canceled, this is the same imitation of pseudo-democracy as the various parties, including and the opposition in our single and monolithic regular bureaucratic office for imitation, where 600 ghouls of ebullient loafers who formed a new noble estate supposedly representing someone (many of them don’t even know who and where it is) and supposedly something decisive, imitate activity for the salary of each of the size comparable to the salary of the staff of a small enterprise. The elective system is dying, so they want it and strive to transfer it to the virtual plane, where you can program any numbers, and most importantly completely uncontrollably and without any risks, the same program as in slot machines. Those in power are the same people who at one time betrayed their ideals, violated their oaths and oaths, trampled on ideals, betrayed and killed a great power, fearing responsibility for their crimes against the people and the country, our civilization, they will take all measures and cling with all their might for power and for control of the "feeding trough", they will lie, use all possible technologies, go to any forgeries and crimes. To do this, they, while destroying culture and science, education and upbringing, cultivate “advanced” consumers for several generations without a homeland and morality, destroy the traditional community and collective system for us, cultivate and promote the most negative qualities of people, creating an estate inherited jungle society where people an enemy of man, by substituting the concepts of democracy and freedom for irresponsibility and permissiveness. In order to accelerate the process of turning society into a herd, where instead of creativity and creation, heroic deed and personality development, philistinism and consumption will flourish and dominate, and a small inherited estate will rule over all this misunderstanding, for this the older generation will be destroyed by all measures and adopted laws from a great country. The memory and history are destroyed and distorted, they shamefully cover the mausoleums and the commander in chief with his great military leaders, for this all screens are clogged with gulags and "poor" injured girls, but bashfully silent how these girls and boys greeted the invaders with bread and salt, as partisans and scouts betrayed how they themselves cut the wounded soldiers, how they stood in lines for volunteers to write to zondrkommandy, etc. etc.
    Therefore, I do not believe it, I’m not vindictive, just a good memory.
  • ZAV69
    ZAV69 9 September 2019 13: 36 New
    +2
    Quote: Nyrobsky
    Go to the polling station and take the vote from "Eat Russia" in favor of another party. Elections to the Duma in 2021 - most portfolios will remain behind the edrom, if a voter sitting in the kitchen, "gritting his teeth" will tear up the flesh of a dried roach, drinking it with beer and resting his nose on utility bills will increase the tariffs and his financial situation.

    Deputies run from party to party depending on the conjuncture. When "Fair Russia" was formed there, for a profit search, they fled from edra and the Communist Party. Gudkov, Mitrokhin several times fled from party to party. In the year 21, all chameleons will scatter with EP in other parties where there is a chance to get into the Duma. All those who do not grit their teeth will happily run to the polls, once, and in the Duma, all the same people, only in other factions.
    As you do not understand, we have already developed a class of political managers, so simply he will not give up power. Yes, and who then give power? Freaks from Navalny? Do they even know how? Are they the opposition? This is the 5th column in its purest form. If the power is courageous and all these freaks are rotting somewhere on a kolyma or winding tracks, then maybe we will have normal opposition, which from any incomprehensible sponsor will shy away like incense.
  • yehat
    yehat 9 September 2019 13: 41 New
    +1
    Quote: Alena Frolovna
    And could this "political scientist" name at least one country in the world where poverty has been defeated

    look at Norway or an even brighter example - Iceland, they got out of the ass.
  • yehat
    yehat 9 September 2019 13: 45 New
    +1
    Quote: Campanella
    Of course, if the salary is more than 100 tyr per person, then we can say life is almost a success.

    it is not so
    I get more, I spend it sparingly and still lack a lot.
    I can’t say that it’s poor, but Brezhnev’s standard package - apartment - car-dacha is not mature enough.
    still need to earn about 7 million
    1. Campanella
      Campanella 11 September 2019 01: 31 New
      0
      I agree, not enough. I hope you all work out! If everything is not covered with a copper basin.
      21 years can bring serious surprises. Putin, of course, hopes for a transfer of power to reliable people close to him, but the person assumes what is called ..... His clumsy system of power is not viable and, if it is weakened, separatism will immediately overwhelm the country! Rossguard does not help.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 11 September 2019 09: 32 New
        -1
        Quote: Campanella
        Its clumsy system of power is not viable and in the event of its weakening, separatism will immediately overwhelm the country! The Russian Guard will not help.

        I think so. Hostage situation
  • HaByxoDaBHocep
    HaByxoDaBHocep 9 September 2019 13: 57 New
    0
    Quote: purple
    Quote: Campanella
    That's for sure, you can hold out on the pasta)))
    Bread 35 rub * 2 = 70 r
    Oil 120 rub pack
    Cheese 250 gr - 230 rubles
    Milk - 70 rub
    Kefir - 80 rubles
    Potato - 120 rub 3 kg
    APPLES - 120 rubles
    Bananas - 65 rub
    This is about a thousand rubles.

    Where do you live? in Magadan chtoli?
    everything can be safely divided by 2, well, only cheese and butter are one and a half laughing

    we have bread in Siberia 40 rubles
    1. purple
      purple 9 September 2019 18: 19 New
      -5
      Siberia is big .... not in Oymyakon by chance?
      no need to lie, in any big city the price of bread is about the same 25-35 rubles. maybe more for all kinds of bells and whistles, with bran seeds, handmade ... and so on
  • Alf
    Alf 9 September 2019 13: 58 New
    +3
    “We did not record serious violations that would cast doubt on the will of voters. At least we don’t know anything about such cases. ”

    “We did not record” and “we do not know” - it is not at all a synonym for “no violations”.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 9 September 2019 14: 17 New
      0
      It doesn’t matter and cannot affect the final result .... the system will work according to any scenario!
      No really against ... laziness and indifference, no matter what happens! Nothing will come out!
  • Revival
    Revival 9 September 2019 14: 15 New
    0
    After seeing the election results for Russia ...
    I can say that our people are in many ways worthy of the life that lives and those who make their life like that.
  • yehat
    yehat 9 September 2019 14: 20 New
    -2
    Quote: dirk182
    Well, tell me where to stock up for 1 thousand and so that from the belly

    Now more - less than 1000 you can stock up in the Ribbon.
    5 days from the belly is enough for sure.
    1. Freeman
      Freeman 9 September 2019 16: 19 New
      0
      Quote: yehat
      Quote: dirk182
      Well, tell me where to stock up for 1 thousand and so that from the belly

      Now more - less than 1000 you can stock up in the Ribbon.
      5 days from the belly is enough for sure.


      FIX PRICE is even cheaper.
      You can even stock up on black caviar.



      Threat. Particularly pleased with the advertising slogan - "And people are fed !!! and the fish are whole !!!"
      wassat
      1. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 10 September 2019 19: 00 New
        -1
        But food from this "FIX PRICE" is impossible.
        1. Freeman
          Freeman 10 September 2019 20: 00 New
          +1
          Quote: Fan-Fan
          But food from this "FIX PRICE" is impossible.

          It depends. Beer, candies and nuts are quite edible. And "macaroni" many take.
  • yehat
    yehat 9 September 2019 14: 30 New
    -1
    Quote: HaByxoDaBHocep
    we have bread in Siberia 40 rubles

    in terms of price and quality, I think the best or close to the best in St. Petersburg shaped bread from bakery f. Volcheka. It seems worth 48r. Usually this is sold for 65-70.
  • yehat
    yehat 9 September 2019 14: 35 New
    0
    Quote: ZAV69
    Yes, and who then give power? Freaks from Navalny

    It's not about freaks. the question is essentially -
    the fight against corruption is not building a society. And they do not voice anything else.
    nihilism as a political platform is utter slag.
    The same mad goose, Sable - generally some kind of freak. It depicts a sacrificial struggle for people, but in fact it fights only for power. She does not even voice slogans like Navalny.
    1. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 10 September 2019 19: 05 New
      -4
      Can anyone explain what Navalny did to us badly? He didn’t take pensions from us, he was not involved in price increases either, so why is he bad? Those who want to rob us in the future? Well, these people have been robbing for a long time, and Navalny may even be robbing less, who now knows how he will behave?
  • yehat
    yehat 9 September 2019 14: 47 New
    +1
    Quote: Campanella
    I supplement, you still prove that we voted for them! For example, I have never voted for Putin

    I have never voted for either Yeltsin or Putin, but they do not know the defeat in the elections
    1. Campanella
      Campanella 11 September 2019 01: 23 New
      -3
      They are the monuments, which one will plant!))))
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 9 September 2019 15: 12 New
    -3
    As for United Russia, it did not die, but won
    We left the underground, now we will find out whether we will raise the age to 70.
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 9 September 2019 15: 21 New
    0
    There is such a party

  • yehat
    yehat 9 September 2019 16: 54 New
    -1
    Quote: Saul_Rhen
    It's just that the alternative is very rotten

    no, not easy. most recently there were party elections. Many wanted to push through 1 out of 4 parties that supported patriotism and leftist slogans. Nothing succeeded.
    Therefore, it is not easy - it is a stupid and brazen admin resource.
    the rotten alternative is not an accident - it is made by those in power, artificially giving no chance of creating alternatives.
    1. Saul_Rhen
      Saul_Rhen 9 September 2019 17: 16 New
      +3
      The name of these patriots, please. Is it not the Communist Party?
      1. yehat
        yehat 9 September 2019 17: 25 New
        -4
        Communist Party is already in the Duma, why push them?
        no, there were 4 new parties in which rhetoric and programs were at least formally patriotic (NCD, Russian Patriots, growth party, air defense and a number of others, but very small)
        I'm not saying that they are real patriots with some leftism, but at least they voiced it.
        in Samara, for example, there were about 30 parties on the election list, which I could call left.
        1. Campanella
          Campanella 10 September 2019 15: 02 New
          -4
          Why why? Only the majority decides in the Duma!
          1. yehat
            yehat 10 September 2019 15: 05 New
            0
            most of whom? Communist Party voted for pen. reform and a number of other things that you don't like.
            So you want most of them?
            They completely betray those ideas that are voiced in words.
  • Doliva63
    Doliva63 9 September 2019 18: 33 New
    0
    Quote: bober1982
    Quote: Campanella
    and how beer was distributed at that time, tell me?

    In polyethylene bags, or in smelly cans.

    A religion did not allow to buy a bottle? laughing
    1. brat07
      brat07 11 September 2019 02: 07 New
      0
      Quote: Doliva63
      Quote: bober1982
      Quote: Campanella
      and how beer was distributed at that time, tell me?

      In polyethylene bags, or in smelly cans.

      A religion did not allow to buy a bottle? laughing

      You, apparently, in those "times" lived in the capitals.
      And at the "periphery" they sold beer from barrels.
      And yes, they poured it into double plastic bags (if there weren’t 3 liter cans at hand).
      A bottle was rare.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 9 September 2019 18: 59 New
    +3
    EP + Systemic opposition + non-systemic opposition = capitalism ... And from a change in terms of terms the sum will not change ... And if what a mess happens, the driving forces will lead and the authorities will take the next crook ... And if we talk about the municipal elections, there was a great choice of us in the town, all the candidates from the EP .... We had branches from the Liberal Democratic Party, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the Motherland ... now we don’t ... they ran into the camp of the ruling party .... I didn’t know if I didn’t write these people .. .And we are blaming the Communist Party for the bloc of party and non-party laughing
  • Brigadier
    Brigadier 9 September 2019 19: 50 New
    0
    It's a shame that such beautiful words - "United Russia", this party has managed its own laws against our people spoil to such an extentthat the people already hate these words.

    Or maybe it was originally conceived by someone in order to spoil these beautiful words?
    In the future, anyone who calls the people to fight for united Russia, would be immediately booed and spat upon by the same people!
    It seems that the creators of this "party" did just that.
    So to speak, a time bomb was created.
    And for what - guess for yourself. I think that there are no stupid people here!
    We all know that our enemies sleep and see how Russia has become a fragmented and weak state ...
    These are the things ...

    1. depressant
      depressant 9 September 2019 20: 29 New
      +2
      Foreman ...
      I read your post - speechless. Are you right? In the photo - neuro-linguistics in its purest form. Moreover, it is written by people who do not even suspect about it.
      In fact, the name of the party arose in an era when parts of Russia tried to separate from the whole. But time passed, and now the era of new attempts to dismember the country has come - silent such attempts, which are however noticeable. It’s either a stuffing in the Kuril Islands, or a recent stuffing about Vladivostok, before this - a proposal to divide by 14, then 16 are relatively independent each from the other entities. And, mind you, the stuffing goes on, they do not stop. So, perhaps, our indignation at the profanity of the elections - into milk and even far from the target? Are we really turning the attention in the wrong direction?
      We see some problems, but they are completely different.
      So it was with the Union. Not that they believed - at first they could not realize.
      Some kind of bitter humor! It turns out, cursing United Russia, we wish the destruction of the country. This is how they cunningly manipulate our minds!
    2. Der visch
      Der visch 14 September 2019 10: 45 New
      -1
      It all depends on us, our education, awareness. In order not to bring the situation to the extent specified by you, you need to work with the public. Enlighten him on an ordinary level with the simplest words. To do this, you yourself must meet the challenges. In fact, the development of the situation resembles the scenario of 1917. Against the backdrop of World War II, the Masonic conspiracy and the abdication of the emperor is a key moment in subsequent events. If there were no renunciation, there would not have been all that followed. Then the same Masons, but already in the rank of the current government, bring the situation to anarchy in the autumn of 1917. And the Bolsheviks, who were most active and ready for such a development of events, picked up power with little blood. (Trotsky, funded by America. Bulk - an analogue?) Euromaidan was also approximately implemented in Kiev. They are also preparing something like this in Moscow. The fifth column in Moscow is supported by a meager percentage of the population. But they are active, aggressive, and most importantly, have a single focal point and extensive media opportunities. For the period when the situation is ripe, will Moscow have its own Bonaparte? (By the way, the situation in Yekaterinburg is annoying. The fifth column is strong to break Russia into two parts). Whoever seizes power will build a new order. It’s a very good time to be at the right time at the epicenter of events and become the "king of the mountain." And further down the road .....
  • Kontrik
    Kontrik 9 September 2019 20: 39 New
    0
    no matter what party is in Russia .. From it, anyway, the CPSU turns out !!!
    1. depressant
      depressant 9 September 2019 21: 28 New
      0
      You seem to be right, colleague. It was originally conceived as follows. From the 86th, power was intensively degenerated into bourgeois, remaining in the cocoon of the CPSU. But in the 91st, the butterfly did not hatch, because it turned out to be a mutant incapable of flight. So he lives in an old cocoon.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 9 September 2019 23: 35 New
        +1
        I won’t be surprised if the EP in speed comes out for elections under the slogan: One party, one people, one president ...
  • 123456789
    123456789 9 September 2019 22: 48 New
    -4
    № p / p
    Name
    Volume of consumption (on average per person per year)
    able-bodied population
    pensioners
    children
    1
    Bread products (bread and pasta in terms of flour, cereals, legumes), (kg) including:
    126,5
    98,2
    77,6

    pulse
    6
    5
    3

    wheat flour
    6
    6
    5

    rice
    3
    3
    4

    other cereals (except rice)
    5,5
    5
    6

    wheat bread
    68,9
    65
    48,3

    Rye bread
    68,9
    35
    25,2

    pasta
    9
    8
    7
    2
    Potato (kg)
    100,4
    80,0
    88,1
    3
    Vegetables and melons, (kg) including:
    114,6
    98,0
    112,5

    fresh and pickled cabbage
    43,5
    36
    35,2

    fresh and pickled cucumbers and tomatoes
    5
    4
    12,6

    table root vegetables
    43,5
    38
    42,6

    other vegetables
    22,6
    20
    22,1
    4
    Fresh fruits, (kg)
    60,0
    45,0
    118,1
    5
    Sugar and confectionery in terms of sugar, (kg) including:
    23,8
    21,2
    21,8

    sugar
    22,6
    20
    18,7

    candy
    1
    1
    2

    печенье
    1
    1
    3,5
    6
    Meat products, (kg) including:
    58,6
    54,0
    44,0

    beef
    20,5
    19
    17,6

    mutton
    1,6
    1
    0,5

    pork
    10,5
    9
    3,7

    poultry meat
    26
    25
    22,2
    7
    Fish products, (kg) including:
    18,5
    16,0
    18,6

    fresh fish
    17,5
    15
    17,6

    herring
    1
    1
    1
    8
    Milk and dairy products in terms of milk, (kg) including
    290,0
    257,8
    360,7

    milk, kefir
    120
    105
    137,4

    cream
    2
    2
    3

    animal oil
    3,3
    3
    5,5

    cottage cheese
    14
    12
    14

    cheese
    4,5
    4
    4,5
    9
    Eggs (pcs)
    210
    200
    201
    10
    Vegetable oil, margarine and other fats, (kg) including:
    11,0
    10,0
    5,0

    margarine and other fats
    1,5
    2
    0,5

    vegetable oil
    9,5
    8
    4,5
    11
    Other products (salt, tea, spices), (kg) including:
    4,9
    4,2
    3,5

    salt
    3,7
    3
    2,4

    tea
    0,5
    0,5
    0,4

    spice
    0,7
    0,7
    0,7

    As an example, let's take the data from Moscow and St. Petersburg, according to calculations, you can spend a day on food per person for:
    Moscow time - 142 rubles;
    SPB - 161 rubles.
    1. Campanella
      Campanella 10 September 2019 15: 15 New
      +2
      4260 per month for meals. That's cool!
      Can I not post the Rosstat or other chernukha?
  • Alien From
    Alien From 10 September 2019 04: 39 New
    0
    Reading an article is disgusting; comments under it are even worse! People, wake up if you are people, not .......... !!!!!!
  • Alien From
    Alien From 10 September 2019 04: 39 New
    0
    Reading an article is disgusting; comments under it are even worse! People, wake up if you are people, not .......... !!!!!!
  • pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 10 September 2019 08: 41 New
    0
    Incognito, hiding under the guise of self-nominated or other people, changing shoes for the duration of the elections in the air ...
  • AUL
    AUL 10 September 2019 09: 11 New
    +6
    Quote: bober1982
    Is it good to count other people's money? why climb into someone else’s pocket.

    Do you think the results of its activities really cost 200 per month? Does it really benefit society for this amount? And if not, then this money comes from someone else’s pockets. Specifically - from the taxes that we pay to the state, so that it - the state - takes care of us citizens, makes our life better. So we have every right to count the money in her pocket!
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  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 10 September 2019 13: 07 New
    -1
    Who teaches Russians "democracy and freedom" and so cares and cries for Russia and the Russian people in the article?
    Bah, all the faces familiar, all-Russophiles! good :
    Maria Georgieva in Moscow and agencies) in the British newspaper "The Guardian»
    Аtokens Navalnyth, "the most prominent of the opposition leaders of Russia",
    Konstantin Haase, political scientist of Moscow Carnegie Center
    Will england, "Washington Post»

    What "authoritative" and "objective" opinions lead us! yes lol

    What touching concern of ENEMIES about ... the Russian people. yes

    from the article:
    As for United Russia, it’s not dead, and won
    -exactly!
    1. Campanella
      Campanella 10 September 2019 15: 09 New
      0
      Only the victory of Pyrrhus. (((
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 10 September 2019 19: 55 New
        0
        Quote: Campanella
        Only the victory of Pyrrhus. (((

        think what do you wantchoose-who do you want, create YOUR super-fair parties, fight, sue, DO ANYTHING YOURSELF, finally!
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    3. brat07
      brat07 11 September 2019 03: 21 New
      +1
      Quote: Olgovich
      Who teaches Russians "democracy and freedom" and so cares and cries for Russia and the Russian people in the article?
      Bah, all the faces familiar, all-Russophiles! good :
      Maria Georgieva in Moscow and agencies) in the British newspaper "The Guardian»
      Аtokens Navalnyth, "the most prominent of the opposition leaders of Russia",
      Konstantin Haase, political scientist of Moscow Carnegie Center
      Will england, "Washington Post»

      What "authoritative" and "objective" opinions lead us! yes lol

      What touching concern of ENEMIES about ... the Russian people. yes

      from the article:
      As for United Russia, it’s not dead, and won
      -exactly!

      Quote: Olgovich
      Who teaches Russians "democracy and freedom" and so cares and cries for Russia and the Russian people in the article?
      Bah, all the faces familiar, all-Russophiles! good :
      Maria Georgieva in Moscow and agencies) in the British newspaper "The Guardian»
      Аtokens Navalnyth, "the most prominent of the opposition leaders of Russia",
      Konstantin Haase, political scientist of Moscow Carnegie Center
      Will england, "Washington Post»

      What "authoritative" and "objective" opinions lead us! yes lol

      What touching concern of ENEMIES about ... the Russian people. yes

      from the article:
      As for United Russia, it’s not dead, and won
      -exactly!

      Unfortunately, that’s it.
      I do not like long "words".
      By the way, I'm not a fan of EdRo. Somehow like this.
      BUT, in something I agree with you.
  • Igluxnumx
    Igluxnumx 10 September 2019 14: 59 New
    0
    Particularly touched: ...... "This day, Ingland notes in the Washington Post, brought" a lot of messages about election fraud, most of which are not verifiable "......" If the fraud is not verifiable, is it worth it to talk about? Or the main thing - crowing? And there, though not dawn?
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 10 September 2019 17: 12 New
      0
      And especially touches ......celebrate in Washington post ...., curtain, gentlemen, on a "patriotic" site.
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 10 September 2019 19: 45 New
        0
        Quote: bober1982
        And especially touches ...... celebrate in Washington post ...., curtain, gentlemen, on a "patriotic" site.

        The Washington Post, the Guardian, now "authorities", previously no less "authoritative" publications from the West were cited on this subject, linked by the State Department, the EU, etc.

        Echo of Moscow, Is it raining? recourse .
  • Astronaut
    Astronaut 10 September 2019 18: 14 New
    +1
    I voted for the communist to take away the voice from United Russia.

    Especially funny communist Levchenko from the Irkutsk region, who so “modernized” the region that the people ran to vote for EdRo wassat
  • Grandfather
    Grandfather 10 September 2019 18: 46 New
    +1
    Quote: Dead Day
    Quote: Campanella
    more than 100 tyr per person,

    more than 100 tyr per person,

    belay
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 11 September 2019 07: 33 New
    0
    I don’t want to criticize not those, not others. Yet Turgenev told Bazarov that the old people themselves acquire diseases by thinking about completely foreign things. With this I agree 100%. We, old people, think about how it should be. Not taking into account the past life. Why do not want to criticize? I am convinced that a new wave is already on the verge. People deprived of emotions and purely rational. They will have different views. But the arguments in the dispute will be only figures and facts. And no emotions. I already see such young people. Bad or good I'm not to judge.
  • ROBIN-SON
    ROBIN-SON 11 September 2019 09: 20 New
    0
    Do not have illusions. There is no death of EP, it’s all political technology. Are they self-nominated? Is it really forbidden?
    And who is against the EP? Internet annoying? So only A. Navalny is gaining 1.5 million views. But here it is necessary to subtract interested, trolls. N. Platoshkin is gaining up to 100000 (μs) on YouTube. How many citizens of the Russian Federation have the right to vote? 110 million people.
    But Edro also changes. And this is not a piece of granite. And it is a reality. In the next presidential election, DAM will win. If there is no change in the Constitution and some kind of High Council is not created.
  • yehat
    yehat 11 September 2019 10: 47 New
    -1
    Quote: Fan-Fan
    so why is he bad?

    people don’t have much time and opportunities to protest and fight for their rights, and Navalny, with his motive, distracts them with senseless fuss, besides involving in the process shkolota and students, who by their recklessness constantly provoke events to develop into bacchanalia, which exacerbates the situation. That's what in a few years Navalny did? anti-corruption fund? Smart choices that urinate edro, but do not change the system? Pulled out to the protest parties people who do not even know what they want? This is all a cheap pointless booth. And the time wasted. Life in the meantime has become much worse, but a bunch of sheep are sure that it is going where it should. Formally, we can say that Navalny collects and coordinates people, but this is not local authority, these are blind battle groups with a focal point.
    In this regard, even Udaltsov is prettier to me - for all the hops and errors, he still drowns for the creation of grassroots organizations based on advice and quite clearly voices what he wants, and not how many apartments the Sobyanin has.