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A lot of money, but you still hold on

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In 2008, the National Welfare Fund (NWF) was created in Russia, which became the so-called “airbag” of our country in the event of a global economic crisis.


A lot of money, but you still hold on


Last year, in order to achieve a federal budget balance, a decision was made to merge the NWF with the Reserve Fund. Today, the NWF accounts have a record amount of money, reaching 124 billion dollars. In many respects, according to experts, this was facilitated by the state’s conservative budget policy, according to which a significant share of oil revenues was deposited in existing reserves.

But today, the accumulated record amount of money continues to be a dead weight, thereby not contributing to the growth of the Russian economy. As a result, reformulating the famous expression of Dmitry Medvedev, we can say: "There is a lot of money, but you still hold on."

The “Time: Go!” Team will try to find out why this happens. Why is our state guarding its little egg so carefully and not letting anyone in it? What are the considerations that impede the spending of trillions from reserves on the country's needs? In which case will part of the reserves still be allowed into the country? What is the main problem of the Russian management system?

How convincing these arguments are, judge for yourself:

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  1. orcinus
    orcinus 9 September 2019 14: 01 New
    +8
    how already this cheap "Time-Forward" agitation got tired
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      1. Svarog
        Svarog 9 September 2019 14: 40 New
        +11
        Quote: Nasr
        And if the VO comments “untwist” the government on spending this money, I’ll just believe in a miracle ...

        Miracles do not happen, while these fruits are controlled, everything will be "stable" (bad)
        1. Greg Miller
          Greg Miller 9 September 2019 14: 44 New
          +17
          Modern Russia, with a degrading education and healthcare, a raw materials economy, a declining population and at the same time incredibly huge gold reserves, reminds me of a very rich, but cancer patient, saving on vital products in order to put more in a piggy bank. Which, instead of spending money on surgery and treatment, and having recovered, continuing to live happily on, continues to save money so that before they die they have enough for pain medication.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 9 September 2019 14: 55 New
            +8
            Quote: Greg Miller
            Which, instead of spending money on surgery and treatment, and having recovered, continuing to live happily on, continues to save money so that they will have enough painkillers before they die.

            This is really so .. One can only guess why this is happening ..
            Version 1 - they just really understand that in order to spend money wisely on development, you need to work hard and many heads will fly off as a result .. but since we don’t let our people in, we don’t want to do this.
            Version 2 - they understand that they are not capable of anything. (unlikely version)
            Version 3 - we are still under external financial management (conspiracy)
            Version 4 - the president of the country in the economy is not in a “naked tooth”, that is, he doesn’t cut at all and, accordingly, selects such economists
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 9 September 2019 15: 07 New
              -10
              Svarog, you wrote, as usual, nonsense. But this is real pearl:

              Quote: Svarog
              president of the country in economics not in a "nude tooth"

              Congratulations, someday you will overtake a number stasik ... although, of course, hardly.
            2. Greg Miller
              Greg Miller 9 September 2019 15: 09 New
              +13
              Everything is simpler ... From the point of view of the ruling elite in Russia, an ideal state has already been built. The ruling class has actually implemented all the tasks that it faced. They all have and are not responsible for anything. And they have no motive to develop this state and somehow improve the society. You need to understand that they are already well. Hence their task is to extend this state of buzz as long as possible and maintain the existing order. It is precisely for this that the ruling class spends and will spend all its energy.
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    2. cradle
      cradle 11 September 2019 06: 30 New
      +1
      create your own and do not buzz ... no one forces you to read.
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  3. Valery Valery
    Valery Valery 9 September 2019 14: 14 New
    -15
    Old topic!
    It was this small egg that helped to survive the crisis and the acute phase of sanctions.
    1. dirk182
      dirk182 9 September 2019 14: 19 New
      -7
      everything is easier, so as not to be pulled away
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 9 September 2019 14: 21 New
      +12
      Well survived, okay sanctions .... and then what?
      If you only worry, wait, the same thing will happen again, and even with new twists !!! and then it is not known who will survive and how!
      There is no forward movement, we’re kneading a hole .... but it can go deeper and deeper, because it can suck in! probably suck, try to jump, and fall in the same place.
      1. Nikolay87
        Nikolay87 9 September 2019 14: 27 New
        +10
        Rather, all the grandmas and all will be stolen. 30 years have passed, and we only have investments in hydrocarbon production. Investors do not want ours; they do not know how. I do not believe in the Leaders of Russia .... the system will survive them.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 9 September 2019 14: 42 New
          +3
          Quote: Nikolay87
          Rather, all the grandmas and all will be stolen. 30 years have passed, and we only have investments in hydrocarbon production. Investors do not want ours; they do not know how. I do not believe in the Leaders of Russia .... the system will survive them.

          Correctly. The system was created by certain, specific people to serve their goals ... it works for them, even creates something !!! But this is not enough for the well-being of the country, not to mention all the citizens!
          This is not the way forward, it is stomping on the spot, getting deeper and deeper!
    3. boni592807
      boni592807 9 September 2019 14: 28 New
      +5
      Right, but it’s important not to get carried away. no
      An old joke about the fact that the greedy died of hunger in an embrace with a bag of crackers belay
      or "... the gypsy was breeding a new breed of horse that worked. But, but not ate! The experience was almost successful, but the horse failed! DIED! ... crying "
      In our case, "... There is no money, but YOU hold on ..." repeat
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 9 September 2019 14: 43 New
        +4
        Quote: boni592807
        "... There is no money, but YOU hold on ..."

        This is no longer funny at all ....
    4. Greg Miller
      Greg Miller 9 September 2019 15: 02 New
      +16
      Quote: Valery Valery
      Old topic!
      It was this small egg that helped to survive the crisis and the acute phase of sanctions.

      It’s interesting, but how completely without reserves, under the late EM Primakov, did we survive the default of 1998? Under him, the Russian economy, 6 months after the default, with an oil price of $ 9, reached a growth rate of 27% per annum. The thing is that when Prime Minister Primakov was prime minister, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation was headed not by Eloha the cannibal, but by the old communist V. Gerashchenko, Primakov’s deputy was not Oreshkin and “the best in the world” Kudrin, but the last head of the USSR State Planning Commission A. Maslyukov and the Ministry of Railways N. Aksyonenko ... And the oligarchs were not wealthy in those days, that's why the government of E.M. Primakov lasted only 8 months ... But these months were enough for Putin to shout at the beginning of the zero about doubling the GDP by 2010 "... But this doubling did not happen because Gref, Chubais, Kudrin came with Putin Other "iPhone" ...
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 9 September 2019 15: 35 New
        +2
        Quote: Greg Miller
        It’s interesting, but how completely without reserves, under the late EM Primakov, did we survive the default of 1998? Under him, the Russian economy, 6 months after the default, with an oil price of $ 9, reached a growth rate of 27% per annum. The thing is that during the Prime Minister Primakov, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation was headed not by Eloha the cannibal, but by the old communist V. Gerashchenko

        That's what is called not in the eyebrow, but in the eye! Cadres decide everything! But the president is in trouble with them .. One cannot ask the faithful as smart. Yes, even when you can’t ask .. If only the government dispersed and gave complete freedom to the Communists, the country would come to life ..
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 13 September 2019 14: 04 New
        -1
        Russia's GDP for 2000 is 7 trillion rubles for 2019 - 115 trillion, given inflation crises, a drop in the ruble, it turns out that the economy grew 19 times in 6 years - so Putin did what he was talking about.
        1. Greg Miller
          Greg Miller 13 September 2019 16: 35 New
          0
          Why is it only 6 times? According to the logic of your calculations - almost 16,5 times !!! Or maybe you probably counted in dollars? Well, okay, let’s accept your condition that our GDP of Russia, in dollars, increased by 6% by 19 times or in 500 years. Those. Are you trying to convince me that the GDP of Russia, in dollars, has been growing ANNUALLY, FOR 20 YEARS OF A CONTRACT, by 25% in year? This fundamentally contradicts even the most optimistic statistics, including official ones! But the fact that oil prices, over these 20 years, have increased 6 times, I believe ...
  4. Desdecado
    Desdecado 9 September 2019 14: 28 New
    +10
    This money is not for us, not for the people, and who saw it ...
    1. Nikolay87
      Nikolay87 9 September 2019 14: 31 New
      +10
      Quote: Desdecado
      This money is not for us, not for the people, and who saw it ...

      The National Welfare Fund was created so that every person in our country could receive part of the money from hydrocarbon production .... but who remembers this "(c) O. Komolov laughing
      1. Desdecado
        Desdecado 9 September 2019 14: 44 New
        +9
        That's for sure. I think that the guarantor's friends - Rutenberg, Vekselberg, etc., have long launched their playful pens into this fund of universal "welfare" for a reason. Bridges and all kinds of sports facilities cost many times more than their real value .. If you dare to get into the pension fund and "solder" the hard workers , then I think there is not much left.
    2. Cat man null
      Cat man null 9 September 2019 15: 11 New
      -15
      Quote: Desdecado
      This money is not for us, not for the people

      - Well, which of you (personally) is the "people"?
      - and who and why has deprived you of the inheritance? Well, you got it laughing
      1. Desdecado
        Desdecado 9 September 2019 15: 20 New
        +9
        Yes, I realized a long time ago that neither I nor the people were no longer for them, back in 93 they themselves deprived themselves of everything, with our tacit consent everything happens ...
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 9 September 2019 18: 01 New
          -3
          Quote: Desdecado
          Yes, I realized a long time ago that neither I nor the people are nobody for them

          Not about that. You - whining, I - trying to work and earn money. Here is the difference, I talked about it, if it is not clear the first time.

          Quote: Desdecado
          They themselves deprived of everything ...

          Speak for yourself when you say such things (c).

          I myself did not deprive anything. Yes, they treated me impolite ... but life goes on ... here is my motto, if you want. Disinherited laughing
          1. Nikolay87
            Nikolay87 9 September 2019 19: 17 New
            +1
            Not about that. You - whining, I - trying to work and earn money.

            I once thought so too. But it seems that way only while you have a place to work and earn. The system is built for people who earn, for those who do it less efficiently, it turns into survival. Tell me, can the state provide the entire population with highly paid jobs? What about those who did not have enough work? What to put off for retirement? What to do if you become unable to work? Is the support that the state provides non-working (unemployed, disabled, etc.) enough for a decent living? God forbid you lose the opportunity to earn and the capitalist system immediately spits you on the sidelines. For such a system, a person turns into a burden, unable to earn to consume.
  5. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 9 September 2019 14: 29 New
    +7
    For some reason, everyone considers these "nestings" stored abroad to be "the property of Russia" and it does not occur to anyone that this is the property of individuals ... What is the point of these people spending "their" money not for their own needs? That is why they lie in Western banks and funds
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 9 September 2019 14: 55 New
      -1
      there is only 12 yards and those apparently operational stash. long ago all brought.
      1. cradle
        cradle 11 September 2019 06: 37 New
        +1
        then all those “who know how to manage the state” came up, do not mark the beads in front of certain creatures. Do you need it?
    2. cradle
      cradle 11 September 2019 06: 35 New
      +1
      so why weren’t they blocked? Huh? So everyone was diligently searching for Putin’s loot and couldn’t find it, but the "geneal" monster took and exposed the Kremlin gang in one fell swoop. Krasava. Well do you understand me? fool
  6. populist
    populist 9 September 2019 14: 47 New
    +3
    Once I watched 2-3 clips of "Time Ahead." I realized that this is bullshit and do not look anymore.
    There are exactly two reasons for not using the NWF:
    1 Mode does not want to use this money.
    2 Mode is not able to use them,
    since an unfit economy and unfit power have been created. negative
    1. cradle
      cradle 11 September 2019 06: 38 New
      +2
      Well, Kanyesha Ryzhim, and you are a victim of Ryzhim, Kanyeshna laughing
    2. at84432384
      at84432384 23 September 2019 23: 37 New
      0
      There is one more reason and more compelling: this money is in the banks of the “partners” and works for their economy. This is a common practice in all colonial countries. Russia is just one of them. The government of the Russian Federation is a colonial administration. Proof of? Creation of the NWF-requirement of the IMF. IMF Budget Rule Requirement. The devaluation of the ruble in 2014 is the IMF requirement. Pension "reform", VAT at 20% from there. The list goes on and on. And all the Russian pro-government media massively create a smoke screen about getting up from their knees ... 500 lard of green money was taken away for the cordon, and we, simple poor citizens, are sent off by sick SMS.
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 28 September 2019 19: 58 New
        -1
        Quote: at84432384
        Creation of the IMF-requirement of the IMF

        Proof of?

        Quote: at84432384
        Ruble devaluation in IMF 2014 requirement

        Proof of?

        Quote: at84432384
        Pension "reform", VAT in 20% - from there

        Similarly. Documents, uncle, the market does not roll.

        Quote: at84432384
        sick children, we, simple beggars, give off to SMS

        Oh you crap ... poor ... and threw off a lot?

        Characters funny here sometimes wander, I seem to have already seen everything, but this one - even managed to get me.
  7. g1v2
    g1v2 9 September 2019 15: 06 New
    0
    Stop Stop. Here on the site, after all, they recently rejoiced that the NWF spent all. "No money, but you hold on" and all that. belay Where did the money come from? After all, right there the “honest people” laid out everything on the shelves that all the money was given to the Americans, exported and all that. That Russia is “down” and that all this is the fault of the current economic bloc. I remember evrything. Or did these people lie? belay No, it cannot be.
    Conclusion - everything was shot on Mosfilm and there is no money, all funds are stolen clearly by anyone. Economic gurus like Glazyevs, Khazins, etc. can’t lie? Or maybe? wink
    1. cradle
      cradle 11 September 2019 06: 39 New
      +2
      FSO is gone! We will die! laughing
  8. Denimax
    Denimax 9 September 2019 16: 38 New
    +10
    Money must circulate. It is like blood in a living organism. If the blood is standing, then it means a blood clot has formed, and the body will hurt or even die.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 13 September 2019 14: 07 New
      0
      And this money is already circulating - what do you think, they just lie there dead weight?
  9. sagitch
    sagitch 9 September 2019 16: 43 New
    +2
    Putin and many government officials often speak out: There is money, only why the regions do not use it. (The same "Tulun" for example)
    The catch is to get this money from the federal center, you need to show the development of 10 to 30 percent of your money (regional, district), but there is no money there. So it turns out, they speak beautifully, while others CAN’T take them!
  10. Shelest2000
    Shelest2000 9 September 2019 18: 43 New
    +2
    In many respects, experts say, this was facilitated by the state’s conservative budget policy, according to which a significant share of oil revenues was deposited in existing reserves.

    It is necessary to invest finances in production oriented towards domestic consumption, and not bluntly finance hostile countries. Ugh ...
  11. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 9 September 2019 20: 20 New
    +1
    Quote: dirk182
    everything is easier, so as not to be pulled away

    So said A. Siluanov.

    Yuriy Pronko: This is not a fight against poverty, but another swindle and lies

  12. nikvic46
    nikvic46 10 September 2019 06: 42 New
    0
    The fact that money should work is clear to everyone. Only a quick turnover of domestic money determines the economy as a whole. If the timing for delivering money to the final destination (which should put money in motion again) is not defined, then it is difficult to determine where the traffic jam has created .
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 13 September 2019 14: 12 New
      0
      The economy will grow only when there are sales markets - there will be demand and supply, there is no demand, there is no supply, Russia has problems with sales markets - for all products except hydrocarbons and CX products. Everyone is happy and ready to produce a lot more with each year - but not all buyers are willing to buy so much.