In Germany: A soldier should look chic and dashing in a new designer uniform

In the “Weekend Fiction” section, we present material on the discussion in Germany of the "obsolete" military uniform of the Bundeswehr.

At the CDU (Christian Democratic Union) party, lead defense expert Henning Ott said that the existing military uniform has ceased to conform to modern design concepts.

Otte believes that it is necessary to immediately involve leading designers in creating a new image of the German military. From the statement of the representative of the CDU:

The Bundeswehr needs a modern dress suit. This should be not just a uniform, but the most modern costume in which the military will present in public. Our military itself should like the designer dress uniform they are wearing. The uniform should become “smart”, and the soldier should look smart and dashing in it (German - schick und schneidig).

Otte notes that today's dress uniform in the German army has lost popularity since it is "morally obsolete."

According to the military expert, historians should also be involved in the creation of the new "full dress" to help designers take into account German military traditions. I wonder what period of military traditions of Germany are going to take as a basis? The case is not 1933-1945? ..

Ott:

The new form should be such that the soldiers were confident in themselves, and we would be confident in them.

Does this mean that today in Germany the army is not confident in itself, and the country is not confident in its army? ..

According to Die Welt, at the same time, Germany is delaying the implementation of a program to change army boots for military personnel. German soldiers and officers were completely “converted” into “smart” shoes no earlier than 2022, although they had initially promised until the end of 2019.

For reference: in all photos - the front form of the current model.

Comments

[Machete]

Oh, something that reminds us all.

[Nycomed]

"The look must be dashing and silly ..."

[iouris]

I clarify: "... a little silly."

[4ekist]

...... and brave.

[iouris]

"brave" is in fact a non-Russian synonym for "dashing".

[Lopatov]

I clarify, this is a fake
Peter did not write this.

[iouris]

Quote: Spade

Peter did not write this.

Not important anymore. It is important that this is included in the Russian language and culture.

[Nadrub]

Dembel from the construction battalion? :)))))

[TermNachTer]

This is how these uninformed fascists will be sent a new parade, so immediately all the problems of the Bundeswehr will disappear by themselves. I especially liked the last photo - for this warrior, what uniform you don’t wear, everything will be like a saddle on a cow.

[Siberia 75]

I wonder what period of military traditions of Germany are going to take as a basis? The case is not 1933-1945 ?.

Without going into the sharply negative essence of Nazism, I note that the military uniform of the Third Reich is still considered the most outwardly recognizable and beautiful. By the way, it was designed by leading designers Hugo Boss and Karl Dibich.

[silverwolf88]

it's time to turn to Hugo Boss again ... the best German practices))

[marshes]

Quote: silberwolf88

it's time to turn to Hugo Boss again ... the best German practices))

They in Mexico do not sew bad denim suits, but la Mexicanos Banditos,

[silverwolf88]

about times)) ... about morals ...

[Shelest2000]

Better send Yudashkin to them!

[Alf]

Quote: Shelest2000

Better send Yudashkin to them!

And Zaitseva.

[Private-K]

Zaitsev is a good designer and generally a good person. What do you have against Zaitsev?

[Alf]

Quote: Private-K

Zaitsev is a good designer and generally a good person. What do you have against Zaitsev?

Just when he is broadcasting on TV, you won’t look at him without tears. It’s like a man, but he will pull on himself such that not every woman wears.

[Private-K]

Explore the topic. Yudashkin created an upscale uniform kit. At one time there was a debriefing. It would be a pity if the Bundeswehr will surpass uniforms in style.

[Avis-bis]

Quote: Siberia 75

it was designed by leading designers Hugo Boss and Karl Dibich.

The boss only made it. It looks like this is the same story as the Schmeisser mark on the MP-38 / -40.

[fruit_cake]

Hugo boss didn’t come up with a form

[sabakina]

Quote: Siberia 75

Without going into the sharply negative essence of Nazism, I note that the military uniform of the Third Reich is still considered the most outwardly recognizable and beautiful. By the way, it was designed by leading designers Hugo Boss and Karl Dibich.

Alexei, I can add, I like the dress uniform of Luftwaffe pilots.

[Siberia 75]

Quote: sabakina

I like the uniform of the Luftwaffe pilots.

They have both insignia and awards very beautiful. Highly sought after by collectors. By tradition, Luftwaffe pilots flew into battle in "full dress". Therefore, the search engines, having found a shot down German plane, can enrich themselves at one time.

[Terenin]

[quote = Siberia 75] [quote = sabakina] Highly appreciated by collectors. By tradition, Luftwaffe pilots flew into battle in "full dress". Therefore, the search engines, having found a shot down German plane, can enrich themselves at one time [/ quote]

That yes but we must take into account that the military trophies also belong to the Ministry of Defense .

[Siberia 75]

Quote: Terenin

This, yes, but we must take into account that the military trophies also belong to the Ministry of Defense.

Why not to God

[Private-K]

I wonder why the swag shot down 75 years ago pilot belongs to the Ministry of Defense?
By the way, it never claimed to be.
Obtained in battle and immediately after - yes, a trophy. And through the years - it’s a completely different matter.

[dauria]

the military uniform of the Third Reich is still considered the most outwardly recognizable

Wow ... Especially breeches in boots. And the whole mouse color. We studied with German pilots from the GDR. For half a year their cocking of eyes was an callous to us.
Disciplined, bastards. And they knew how to walk in formation. We, in our HB, with a pilot in a belt, a cigarette in our teeth and boots, also reminded them of something, for sure. It is a pity, the suggestion was special - "do not approach, do not meet, do not talk. And do not hit the face "

[Siberia 75]

Quote: dauria

It is a pity, the suggestion was special - "do not approach, do not meet, do not talk. And do not hit the face."

But what about the friendship of peoples and the Warsaw Pact

[NEXUS]

Quote: Siberia 75

By the way, it was designed by leading designers Hugo Boss and Karl Dibich.

You say right, but ... and who sews the shape of our aircraft? Yudashkin? Is this under-modeler?

[Private-K]

К sorryare not wearing a Yudashkin uniform. Just Yudashkin introduced beautiful, stylish and practical uniform - of course, first of all about front weekend there is a speech. His uniform was spoiled by goons - "designers" from the Ministry of Defense. At one time there was a detailed "debriefing". And besides, the Ministry of Defense then wanted to throw it at the grandmother. ... By the way, later on, these minesweepers were pretty well ordered and fired, and who were imprisoned.

[Private-K]

Just let's clarify that we are only talking about black parade SS - The form of the Wehrmacht was backward and has not changed much since the time of the WWI.

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: Machete

Oh, something that reminds us all.

especially "coils" on the lapels

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Machete

Oh, something that reminds us all.

Our military itself should like the designer dress uniform they are wearing. The uniform should become “smart”, and the soldier should look smart and dashing in it (German - schick und schneidig).

It reminds and even very much, because Adik Schiklsgruber also had a designer look and looked chic and dashing, especially at parades. But the Russian soldier Ivan walked in in a quilted jacket (which Ukrainians do not like so much) in "kirzachs, or even in boots with windings, in a hat with earflaps, stuck a faceted bayonet into the rear seat of a German soldier in a designer breeches and ... forgot about the existence of the Third Reich for 75 years. (It's a bad thing to introduce a design form in the army, it's a bad omen).

[svp67]

Quote: Machete

Oh, something that reminds us all.

Germans, there are Germans, no matter what country they defend ... This is the NNA of the GDR and its parades ...

[den3080]

Quote: Machete

Oh, something that reminds us all.

Reminds ... not even to name a song.

[Marconi41]

Let them ask for help in the search for German traditions in their military uniforms at Mosfilm. Everything is there over the next three hundred years. Almost without jambs.

[antivirus]

look dashing ... and silly ...

[marshes]

Hugo BOSS again?

[fruit_cake]

Hugo boss only produced a form

[marshes]

Quote: fruit_cake

Hugo boss only produced a form

Anyway, he made his own sewing adjustments, which means he made design changes. It's like an Architect and an Engineer - a builder, or a constructor and a process engineer at a factory, how many mats I heard when building or production goes on.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: marshes

Hugo BOSS again?

Of course nostalgia tortured. They forgot how they ran away from a soldier in a quilted jacket without seam, sewn by our women and children.

[marshes]

Quote: tihonmarine

Of course nostalgia tortured. They forgot how they ran away from a soldier in a quilted jacket without seam, sewn by our women and children.

Now you can hardly find kirzachi and a padded jacket, it is not in demand, but I have a private house and there is a hacienda.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: marshes

Now you can hardly find kirzachi and a padded jacket, it is not in demand

Look, someone does not like the words "quilted jacket and kirzachi", they minus us. To know the neighbors for whom the quilted jacket, as for the Nazis means a bayonet in the ass.

[marshes]

Quote: tihonmarine

Look, someone does not like the words "quilted jacket and kirzachi", they minus us. To know the neighbors for whom the quilted jacket, as for the Nazis means a bayonet in the ass.

There is at least some production, we produce metal products, doors, gates. Lattice is hard to find, a rarity. Solid Chemistry, although there are still suits for welders, and the price tag has already become high. Demand is very large.
Yes kirzachi, he removed the footcloth and dried it at the stake, hunter and fisherman. Very comfortable shoes. Like slippers.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: marshes

Yes kirzachi, he removed the footcloth and dried it at the stake, hunter and fisherman

I found Belarusian "kirzachi", just for mushrooms, but an old Soviet quilted jacket. No jacket beats. Enjoy your fishing.

[sabakina]

Quote: marshes

There is at least some kind of production, we produce metal products, doors, lattice gates.

Sorry, are you building a prison of the people? swamps, if Che, it was sarcasm ...

[marshes]

Quote: sabakina

Sorry, are you building a prison of the people? swamps, if Che, it was sarcasm ...

Demand creates supply, so basically I rent out storage facilities, but something needs to be done. Otherwise, I get under the profile of checks.

[Mountain shooter]

Well, there the woman is the Minister of Defense. And for them, always the external surroundings are more important than the content. In Israel, according to rumors, they do not know how to march at all. And the uniforms of generals and soldiers are the same. IMHO has a positive effect on the combat readiness of the army.

[knn54]

For women, it is SURE to be changed.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: knn54

For women, it is SURE to be changed.

That's for sure, for them "halikhwe" and a quilted jacket are very suitable

[Avis-bis]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Well, there the woman is the Minister of Defense. And for them, always the external surroundings are more important than the content.

Yudashkin, the woman also commissioned the development?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Avis-bis

Yudashkin, the woman also commissioned the development?

But with the grandfathers of the kings, what form was, it was kindly expensive. And no designers.

[Avis-bis]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Avis-bis

Yudashkin, the woman also commissioned the development?

But with the grandfathers of the kings, what form was, it was kindly expensive. And no designers.

Until the beginning of the 1830th century, the military uniform quite so-so followed the civil fashion (with variations, but, nevertheless), so, not without designers, not without them ... Well, with the exception of any "osnaz", such as jaeger units, eg. They began to think about functionality, well, from about 40-XNUMXs.

[Nestorych]

We, too, that latent women forever at the helm of the army ?!)))

[E.S.]

Looked at the last photo. Good visualization of the saying "like a saddle on a cow."

[silverwolf88]

belts are relaxed for the most I do not want ... 10 orders you can wind up on the go))

[tihonmarine]

Quote: silberwolf88

10 outfits can be wound on the go)

And you would look at the NATO officers, the "lip" is crying.

[Meliodous]

The present is a tribute to tradition. I wonder what will be next

[777-3-59-97]

What period of military traditions of Germany are going to take as a basis? The case is not 1933-1945? ..

Does the moderator have a complete roof? And where is 1933? Did Germany give a reason to accuse her of returning to the Nazi past?

[marshes]

IMHO. In general, the berets on the Germans look unnatural, the Franks and the Britons the most.

[Roma 1977]

Pickelhelm - our everything! [media = https: //svitovederevo.com.ua/images/product_images/popup_images/prusskij-shlem-s-pikoj-pikelhelm.jpg]

[marshes]

Quote: Roma-1977

Pickelhelm - our everything!

Their wagons were not bad, so the cut is still quoted in Latin America and in some places.

[Greg Miller]

Call Yudashkin, he already has experience ....

[Machete]

Something like this

[mark2]

Right I was looking for a frame from this film, where at the end all the main characters give a military greeting to the flag, they only bury someone. so the shape was very similar.

[Avis-bis]

Quote: mark2

so the shape was very similar.

So it was conceived. :) Verhoeven brutally beat everyone in a row.

[geologist]

Let them learn from our demobilization.

[Catfish]

It's a quiet horror, colleague. Our demobilization in their "cock" of self-construction will give a hundred points ahead of any doorman of the most luxurious brothel in Europe, even the banana generals of Latin America look more modest.
Your humor appreciated, but I believe that the Germans are still people of tradition and do not suffer from bad taste. Although ... there is Madame in the ministers of defense and everything can be. Women in clothes are unpredictable: they can get it on ...

[Yura]

Quote: Sea Cat

they can get it on ...

Or take off.

[Catfish]

Colleague, not a word about intimate relationships! There are still ladies on the site.

[Alf]

Quote: Sea Cat

Colleague, not a word about intimate relationships! There are still ladies on the site.

Lord hussars, SILENCE!

[Catfish]

Evil Hero General! Their bean shut up!

[Alf]

Quote: Sea Cat

Evil Hero General! Their bean shut up!

Gut!

[Plague doctor]

The ss form was beautiful

[Pavel57]

And who was the designer of the SS uniform?

[Avis-bis]

Quote: Pavel57

And who was the designer of the SS uniform?

Dibich.

[sabakina]

Quote: Pavel57

And who was the designer of the SS uniform?

As written below, Dibich. But ours also contributed to the coloring. a joke of humor.

[Kontrik]

You can kick, but the uniform of the German Wehrmacht and ss was beautiful and elegant .. Not bad designers were ...!
And now Germany has turned into German since .. solid, with Secretary of Defense Baba and Chancellor ... They have them as they want the United States and Israel!

[tracer]

I also thought so in my youth. While their atrocities with zigs and crosses, the Ukrainian Natsiks did not revive. Now for me it’s not a joke, and before it was not. Now, for me, their form evokes a photo of a young girl with a child broken through the fragments of a mine and burnt bodies from the house of trade unions. Dumb rzhaka over the colored form of German, the level of thinking of imbitsil no more. It was a serious and terrible enemy, clever, decisive, cunning. Familiarity with him is not permissible. I’m about to start how they dress now. Though in leggings with rhinestones.

[Thrifty]

Attract our demobilization to work on the form, they will give vent to imagination - the best fashion houses the result is shocking ....

[KVU-NSVD]

Immediately I recall the duke (or whoever he was there) from the movie "That same Munchausen" performed by Bronevoy with his tailor's "worries about defense. It's a pity that the episode cannot be inserted.

[Avis-bis]

"We are not ready for war!"

[sabakina]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

Immediately I recall the duke (or whoever he was there) from the movie "That same Munchausen" performed by Bronevoy with his tailor's "worries about defense. It's a pity that the episode cannot be inserted.

[mavrus]

Quote: Siberia 75

I wonder what period of military traditions of Germany are going to take as a basis? The case is not 1933-1945 ?.

Without going into the sharply negative essence of Nazism, I note that the military uniform of the Third Reich is still considered the most outwardly recognizable and beautiful. By the way, it was designed by leading designers Hugo Boss and Karl Dibich.

And the color of the field doctor, in my opinion, looks much nicer than the hacks. But the taste and color ...

[Paranoid50]

Quote: mavrus

And the color of the field doctor, in my opinion, looks much nicer than the hacks.

Primitivism, however. Only Napoleonics, only hardcore!

[marshes]

Quote: Paranoid50

Primitivism, however. Only Napoleonics, only hardcore!

And you are aware that at the beginning of the hussars and lancers, pigtails were worn in the likeness of pace.
Braided human hair saved from saber blows, but it has gone since the time of the Huns.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: marshes

Do you know

Duc, classic ...

[sabakina]

Quote: marshes

Quote: Paranoid50

Primitivism, however. Only Napoleonics, only hardcore!

And you are aware that at the beginning of the hussars and lancers, pigtails were worn in the likeness of pace.
Braided human hair saved from saber blows, but it has gone since the time of the Huns.

Swamps, and I thought you were smarter than you write !!!
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[marshes]

Quote: sabakina

https://youtu.be/j8TfoLjy5VM

I don’t know, you didn’t go to it, but on the site for a long time. What about the color Stirlitz.?
At the expense of women, they have the right but there are traditions, by the way they have lived with us quite a bit, they follow.
And just imagine, now in Germany, a woman cooked food for her husband and children, it’s a star. This is a violation of the rights of a woman, although she did not oblige her.
Now a relative is consolidated in Waming, and her sister-in-law wants to move there. America is, a country of opportunities.

[Reserve buildbat]

In a new form for the sake of gender equality, everyone will be in ruffled skirts

[Rwmos]

This is Germany. So in a burqa it will be a long time. True landing is a little uncomfortable. but in the name of tolerance - they will tolerate

[abrakadabre]

This is Germany. So in a burqa it will be a long time. smile True, landing is a little uncomfortable. but in the name of tolerance - they will tolerate

The burqa can be combined with OZK and a gas mask. Even rework is almost unnecessary.

[marshes]

Quote: RWMos

This is Germany. So in a burqa it will be a long time. True landing is a little uncomfortable. but in the name of tolerance - they will tolerate

A good thing, a woman’s face does not deteriorate from ultraviolet radiation, moreover, if she is at home in a headscarf, her hair does not get into food when cooking. Yes, and her husband, a German, is satisfied that her hair does not deteriorate, fats, when cooking.

[Rwmos]

All Germans are in the Ministry of Defense, not in their last positions. The "blond knight of the Reich" is busy cooking

[marshes]

Quote: RWMos

All Germans are in the Ministry of Defense, not in their last positions. The "blond knight of the Reich" is busy cooking

I have a sister-in-law living with piles in North Rhine-Westphalia, I go there twice a year, they’re bored, they have a small social circle, but they cook food like ours, I eat pooh no matter how much the USSR found. But in the kitchens in handkerchiefs.
By the way, in Russia they loved shawls.

[rotmistr60]

Bundeswehr needs a modern dress suit

This is what the problem of the Bundeswehr is, and not the planes, tanks and ships. It means that the Minister of Defense urgently needs to appoint a designer and everything will fall into place - in / s are happy looking in the mirror, the enemy is ashamed, tk. never seen such "beauty".

[Lord of the Sith]

The uniform should become “smart”, and the soldier should look smart and dashing in it

Let them fasten the SS form. Elegant, famously, but not for long.

[sabakina]

It’s not form that is fighting, homo sapiens is fighting ...

[Lord of the Sith]

So those who imagined themselves to be the human race in fashionable form from Hugo Boss fought.
And our grandfathers in a much more modest, but functional form broke into them lyuley at most do not indulge.

[Gardamir]

Sarcasm, of course, is an interesting thing, but how many times have the form or individual parts been updated in the "new" Russia?

[Pavel57]

Now the form has the features of the Chilean era of Pinochet.

[Lord of the Sith]

Are you kidding?
Where "the form has the features of the Chilean era of Pinochet"?

[fruit_cake]

recesses and rhinestones: yes, yes, yes

[Doctor]

Whatever they sew, it will still be similar to the SS. This is forever.

[Rwmos]

Ship them Yudashkin! And hi do not return!
Although there is some sense in this - Hugo Boss, who was it? A piece of feces, who knew him before his famous project with the shape of the Third Reich

[Alex_You]

What does not like this form? How beautiful for me.

[Kenxnumx]

The current form looks quite worthy. Are there any new pictures?

[Zliy_mod]

As for me, any form of mouse color looks wretched and inconspicuous, how not to iron it.
I heard that arrested gays in concentration camps took part in the development of the ss form, so that the appearance of the form instilled fear and submission, I do not know how true this is.

[Avis-bis]

Quote: Zliy_mod

I heard that arrested gays in concentration camps took part in the development of the ss form

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Дибич,_Карл

[Nikolaevich I]

Oh, the Fritz Hans! As you don’t dress there, you’re not good enough for our demobilization!

[marshes]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

Oh, the Fritz Hans! As you don’t dress there, you’re not good enough for our demobilization!

This suggests that before fig free time.
As they told me, a soldier without work is a criminal!

[Nikolaevich I]

What you say is true! But I am also depressed by this blatant (!) Tastelessness ... not that "no fear", but also the desire to look like parrots! How, when did these "overdressed" and stupid Yagupopas appear?

[marshes]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

What you say is true! But I am also depressed by this blatant (!) Tastelessness ... not that "no fear", but also the desire to look like parrots! How, when did these "overdressed" and stupid Yagupopas appear?

So the sewing uniforms are for fun, there will be demand and the contestants. The funniest thing is that people from rural areas sew, city money is invested in a citizen, but the Albums are almost the same for everyone, the earliest caught something would not have left, now there are virtual ones and see that you don’t take a picture of something. There’s work for the 2nd department, if you stayed in the units or this number is still assigned to them.

[abrakadabre]

Oh, the Fritz Hans! As you don’t dress there, you’re not good enough for our demobilization!

The Germans have their own strong traditions - Landsknechts of the 15-16 centuries. Let them go there for inspiration.
There is so much room for imagination and "the kind of gallant and silly" that our demobels will die of envy.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: abrakadabre

Landsknechty 15-16 centuries. Let them go there for inspiration.
There is so much room for imagination and "the kind of gallant and silly" that our demobels will die of envy.

Well, it's still a "question" who will die! Our demobels are also not bastard! In any case, Landsknecht already .... dead!

[Mavrikiy]

already without me and Yudashkin they sold and Hugo rinsed.

[Boozer]

If smart and dashing, then this is to the hussars ...

[Karabas]

In the last photo, the shape was pulled out of size.

[Berkut24]

It would be again not dressed in black uniforms with skulls on a cap.

[Fedorovich]

Elegant and famously:

[Chaldon48]

The soldier should look gorgeous, you can revive the pleasing form of the times of Kaiser Wilhelm.

[Chaldon48]

Yes, I completely forgot, because recently the Germans complained about the lack of shoes. Now suddenly there was money for chic, what happened? Found a treasure?

[askort154]

Our military itself should like the designer dress uniform they are wearing. The uniform should become “smart”, and the soldier should look smart and dashing in it (German - schick und schneidig).

"They are greeted by their clothes, they are seen off by their minds."
"The eyes of man are the mirror of the soul."
In the first photo to the article, the German officer has German clothes, and his eyes are already Chinese! This is an open allusion to the modern realities of Germany. Tolley continue to lie under the Anglo-Saxons, it is time toli toli look to the East

[Old26]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Well, there the woman is the Minister of Defense. And for them, always the external surroundings are more important than the content. In Israel, according to rumors, they do not know how to march at all. And the uniforms of generals and soldiers are the same. IMHO has a positive effect on the combat readiness of the army.

It's not even about who the Minister of Defense is. This is still an administrative and political post. Worse is another. Now, politicians (the leading defense expert Henning Ott from the CDU party) are beginning to conduct thoughtful discussions whether the design uniform is outdated or not. For me, the uniform of the same Bundeswehr is quite normal

Quote: marshes

IMHO. In general, the berets on the Germans look unnatural, the Franks and the Britons the most.

Yes, they look normal ...

[marshes]

Quote: Old26

Yes, they look normal ...

Not normal, we can say unnatural.
Beretka, now in fashion, early berets of other colors was earned by sweat and blood, Yes with us. Besides Blue and black, red and now green, that's how they are earned.
For the Germans, the most successful headgear is the Army of the German Democratic Republic, no one had such a cut of wagons, Even among the Byelorussians.
It will be something.! If the Germans introduce it I will applaud.

[marshes]

Quote: Ryaruav

Wehrmacht caps with the ability to open the neck when opening it, I think this is not bad, but in order to keep the cap on the head, it must be worn as ...

The Verkhmatov caps were never closed, for that is, cool Soviet trucks, namely the army of the GDR, and the Germans believe, and the Stasi, the most powerful structures.
They have a gap in life, powerful structures. -Just yearn for someone to solve problems for them.

[Ryaruav]

I probably said the wrong thing is not caps but caps, the upper buttons are unfastened, the side fields are lowered to the neck, and before again fastened under the chin there is a photo in the armored collection about the stormtrooper 3 there you can see how the neck is closed in autumn

[Nestorych]

And why are we being ironic? In our country, each "reform" begins with a form.)))

I wonder what period of military traditions of Germany are going to take as a basis? The case is not 1933-1945?

By the way, the form itself is beautiful, and meets the requirements of a defense expert.))

[nikvic46]

We noticed that the form should be smart. Now much attention is paid to smart things. Is this distrust to people who use these things?

[Old26]

Quote: marshes

Not normal, we can say unnatural.
Beretka, now in fashion, early berets of other colors was earned by sweat and blood, Yes with us. Besides Blue and black, red and now green, that's how they are earned.
For the Germans, the most successful headgear is the Army of the German Democratic Republic, no one had such a cut of wagons, Even among the Byelorussians.
It will be something.! If the Germans introduce it I will applaud.

Explain what it suddenly takes began to look unnatural. ? Each army has its own traditions. You can earn money from some people (blood, green), others you get when you become a soldier of one kind or another (the same blue, black). As for the fact that there were some caps and for someone - everything flows, everything changes. In our early years, the most common headgear was budennovka. But time passed and priorities changed. Oh, how many Americans had a cap, and even now it is a thing of the past and replaced by a beret

[marshes]

Quote: Old26

Explain what it suddenly takes began to look unnatural.

For the German army, with its centuries-old traditions, the Germans do not even take facets.

Quote: Old26

Oh, how many Americans had a cap, and even now it is a thing of the past and replaced by a beret

For the Strategic Missile Forces, the most convenient headgear is a cap.
Berets, leave for discussion.

[Avis-bis]

Quote: Old26

cap, and even now it is a thing of the past and replaced by a beret

Hmm ...

[maiman61]

More beautiful than the military uniform of the German army of World War II, no one can think of. Do not get me wrong, I'm talking only about the form.

[marshes]

Quote: maiman61

More beautiful than the military uniform of the German army of World War II, no one can think of. Do not get me wrong, I'm talking only about the form.

The Japanese, a formal suit, even cooler than the Germans had.

[Ryaruav]

not a bad form in the spirit of historical traditions without the silly reels of the modern Russian army

[Old26]

Quote: marshes

For the German army, with its centuries-old traditions, the Germans do not even take facets.

But does the Russian (Soviet, Russian) army with its centuries-old traditions take facets or not?

Quote: marshes

For the Strategic Missile Forces, the most convenient headgear is a cap.
Berets, leave for discussion.

There are no caps from the word at all. I said for good reason - everything flows, everything changes ...

[marshes]

Quote: Old26

There are no caps from the word at all. I said for good reason - everything flows, everything changes ...

Well, the Strategic Missile Forces with a squad are changing their traditions. By the way, if you want to have your beret, it’s sky blue. Only conditions, running and jiu zhjitsu, by the way, these are the first masters who trained hand-to-hand martial art in rocketry.
And so if you stir up, we’ll find mom and dad!

[Avis-bis]

Quote: Pacifist with AK

Oh, fellow forum users, you do not understand anything either in military uniform or in drill training))))))))))))))

Well then ...

[Flatter]

The Germans' taste for military uniforms is traditionally impeccable. Very attractive, purely subjective, is the lack of gilded and gold accessories on the uniform, so popular among developing countries

[Astronaut]

Not the case of 1933-1945? ..

And what, Hugo Boss at one time tried for the SS and the Wehrmacht

[Alexeevich0010]

Hmm ... let the "parade" be borrowed from the Russian Post) ... sarcasm

[rotfuks]

I can’t say anything about the full dress of the Bundeswehr. But their field form is cool. Especially winter jackets. In style resembles an officer pea jacket from the time of the SA. But it is covered with raincoat fabric which is easy to unfasten and wash. An irreplaceable thing for fishing and hunting. The flea markets in Germany cost a penny. I have a son-in-law for 8 years, such a pea jacket can not demolish.

[marshes]

Quote: rotfuks

But their field form is cool. Especially winter jackets

Sludge, fucking heat loss,
The most chic is with a fur lining.

[Dr. Hub]

And no one counted how many times we have changed shape over the last 20 years? I’ve lost count. And not the fact that they calmed down.

[marshes]

Quote: Dr. Hub

And no one counted how many times we have changed shape over the last 20 years? I’ve lost count. And not the fact that they calmed down.

I don’t know whose, Gorka, the tent is not bad. It is pure in the fall and spring ..
In the summer, sneakers and shorts, what the dear asks.

[Ros 56]

The SS men also developed the form, but alas, it did not help. So it’s better not to strain, be yourself.

[rruvim]

We need to connect Yudashkin. At one time, together with Serdyukov, he issued such a “collection” for our army. Take a look... Or at worst, "Hugo Boss". They designed the SS uniform, it looked great on Stirlitz.

[COJIDAT]

Heil Hitler))

[COJIDAT]

Russish Schweine kaput!

[APASUS]

This must be something unimaginable, a bold modern design and, of course, tolerance must be taken into account.

[rruvim]

What kind of tolerance is there? He has a “horse head” on his buckle. And according to Stephen King (the book “The Stranger” is now the most popular in America), such a buckle is worn by a serial maniac.

[APASUS]

Quote: rruvim

This is the kind of buckle that a serial maniac wears.

For you, he is a maniac, but times are different in the EU.

A political party has been registered in Holland that defends the rights and freedoms of pedophiles, reports BBC News. The party, called Charity, Freedom and Diversity (NVD), intends to fight for lowering the age at which one can enter into sexual relations from 16 to 12 years old, as well as for the legalization of sex with animals (bestiality) and child pornography.

And who would have thought

[Old26]

Quote: Avis-bis

Hmm ...

In the top photo, the fighter is still wearing a cap, not a cap. The bottom photo was taken between 1999 and 2002. According to the American manual AR670-1, 1999 edition, it was allowed to wear a standard cap both while on duty and off duty. But only when wearing army green service uniform.
According to the 2002 edition, the cap can be worn in two cases (in particular by officers) if they are excluded from the list of hp. unit in which the wearing of a beret of a certain color is determined and if the officer and others (non-commissioned officers, privates) are in the training center as a trainee

Quote: rruvim

We need to connect Yudashkin. At one time, together with Serdyukov, he issued such a “collection” for our army. Take a look...

Yeah. especially the shoulder straps on the chest and left sleeve

[NF68]

And, no matter how you sit down, friends, you’re all not fit to be musicians. What’s the use of a new uniform if for many years most of the Bundeswehr’s military equipment has been faulty?

[bang]

Why waste time on trifles, immediately adapt to modern trends)

[saygon66]

- The most interesting thing is that the uniform of the NNA of the GDR repeats the uniform of the Wehrmacht almost without changes... The Bundeswehr was less fortunate - it was denazified beyond recognition... One cockade with crossed sabers is worth something...

[Alf]

Quote: saygon66

- The most interesting thing is that the uniform of the NNA of the GDR repeats the uniform of the Wehrmacht almost without changes...

Find 10 differences...

[AleBors]

It seems that soon the descendants of the Teutons will look glamorous..