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A representative of Greenpeace voiced his version of the events in Nyonoks in an interview with Ukrainian media

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Representatives of the Russian branch of the notorious Greenpeace gave an interview to Ukrainian media about the incident in the Russian Nenoks. Rashid Alimov, the head of the project for the energy department of the aforementioned environmental protection organization, considered that he had reason to doubt the conclusions published by Rosatom.


A representative of Greenpeace voiced his version of the events in Nyonoks in an interview with Ukrainian media


Recall that Rosatom, in a publication on the accident in the Arkhangelsk region, noted that a short-term increase in the radiation background near Severodvinsk could arise due to the situation with radioisotope power sources.

According to Alimov, he doubts such a conclusion.

Alimov:

Most likely, this is a reactor.

A number of further statements by Mr. Alimov from Greenpeace made for the Ukrainian portal Obozrevatel were more streamlined. The Ukrainian interlocutor asked Alimov, could it be an accident with the Petrel complex?

R. Alimov:

This is one of the versions. Several were voiced. But we do not give ratings. Our main goal is to assess the risks to nature and man.

The representative of Greenpeace, commenting on the words "Rosatom" about radioisotope power sources, switched from the words about the "reactor" to a discussion of the concept of RTGs. These are capsules - radioisotope thermoelectric generators that were used back in the USSR. According to Alimov, they were used in some Soviet lighthouses, where the decaying element was strontium-90.

Greenpeace representative:

Later a lot of effort was put into disposing of it.

And again about the reactor:

But the data from the Roshydrometcentre indicate that inert radioactive gases were released. And all this, most likely, can come from the reactor.

There is one question to all this publication in the Ukrainian media: why are Ukrainian reporters so interested in the environmental situation in the Arkhangelsk region of Russia and do not care at all in the Kiev region of Ukraine, where a huge repository is created for European nuclear waste in the contaminated area in the exclusion zone near Chernobyl ? Yes, and Greenpeace is silent about this.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 6 September 2019 06: 30
    +4
    Each barrel plug .. Engage in your problems.
    1. Vadim Zhivov
      Vadim Zhivov 6 September 2019 06: 43
      +3
      They have 404 know-how problems ... Merry ... The clown is another team laughing blowing ...
      1. Shurik70
        Shurik70 6 September 2019 07: 07
        +2
        It is understandable that Green Peace is funded by the CIA for direct terrorism and cover operations when infiltrating closed objects. Don't give a damn and pretend to have forgotten (but keep the dossier).
        But from where the radioactive gases appeared - really, interesting. If they officially said so streamlined, then there was definitely an accident at the secret facility.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 6 September 2019 08: 00
          0
          Quote: Shurik70
          But from where the radioactive gases appeared - really, interesting

          Really interesting who spreads these rumors
          1. Vladimir16
            Vladimir16 6 September 2019 08: 21
            -1
            Quote: Shurik70
            But from where the radioactive gases appeared - really, interesting.

            Do you have gases? wassat Yes, and radioactive?
            Does it bother? laughing
            Did you see a doctor? smile
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 6 September 2019 08: 23
              -3
              Quote: Vladimir16
              Did you see a doctor?

              "The doctor said to the morgue, then to the morgue" laughing
    2. Siberia 75
      Siberia 75 6 September 2019 07: 15
      +14
      Greenpeace must be recognized as a "foreign agent organization", since most of the funding comes from abroad. And most of their actions are politicized. Purely ecological issues are of secondary importance.
      1. xax
        xax 8 September 2019 01: 30
        +2
        Quote: Siberia 75
        Greenpeace must be recognized as "an organization by a foreign agent

        Based on the goals, methods and structure, Greenpeace should be recognized as a terrorist organization and banned on the territory of the Russian Federation.
    3. The comment was deleted.
    4. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
      SERGEY SERGEEVICS 6 September 2019 08: 28
      +1
      Quote: 210ox
      Each barrel plug .. Engage in your problems.

      So they do it, spread false information.
  2. d ^ Amir
    d ^ Amir 6 September 2019 06: 37
    +15
    and Fukushima does not interest them ??? how funny ... what selective strabismus ...
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 6 September 2019 07: 06
      +2
      They don’t pay for Fukushima.
      1. Evil echo
        Evil echo 6 September 2019 07: 45
        +3
        They raft so as not to climb.
      2. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 6 September 2019 08: 01
        +1
        Quote: Pereira
        They don’t pay for Fukushima.

        Even as they pay. But in order not to go where it is not necessary
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 6 September 2019 06: 42
    +5
    Our main goal is to assess the risks to nature and man.
    The main goal of this organization has long been well known - to help unfair competition to large Western energy companies and to pour mud into Russia for bribes. What is there concern for the environment when mercantile interests are paramount.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 6 September 2019 08: 03
      -1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      to help unfair competition to large Western energy companies and to pour mud into Russia for bribes.

      Yes, it does not matter to whom to bury in manure. Who pays, he orders the music
  4. stalki
    stalki 6 September 2019 06: 47
    +4
    These greens only work by order, and the customer is only one, star-striped.
  5. Valery Valery
    Valery Valery 6 September 2019 06: 47
    +4
    One of the ways to raise the mood in Ukraine is to tell us some bad news about Russia.
    1. DEDPIHTO
      DEDPIHTO 6 September 2019 06: 54
      +3
      They are not alone in the entom way .. Not a day without Ukraine, from all the irons ... negative
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 6 September 2019 07: 08
        +2
        Yes, as Solovyov put it (they probably slander), it is more interesting for Russians to discuss Ukraine than pension reform.
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 6 September 2019 07: 16
          -3
          Because Ukraine concerns everyone, and few will survive until retirement.
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 6 September 2019 08: 16
            +1
            Quote: Pereira
            and few will survive until retirement.

            Well, it’s your right not to live out. But I know that I’ll live at least 80 years
            1. DEDPIHTO
              DEDPIHTO 6 September 2019 08: 39
              +3
              But I know that I’ll live at least 80 years
              There is one wisdom .. ,, want to ridicule God, tell him your plans for the future ,, (c) winked
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 6 September 2019 08: 42
                0
                Quote: DEPHIHTO
                There is one wisdom ..,

                There is another. Do not "croak"
                And for others do not plan how much they live
                1. DEDPIHTO
                  DEDPIHTO 6 September 2019 09: 05
                  +1
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  Quote: DEPHIHTO
                  There is one wisdom ..,

                  There is another. Do not "croak"
                  And for others do not plan how much they live

                  So am I planning? belay It’s over there in your government that everyone is planning, to whom, when to die, and who should live for how long, and how- oh, they will anger HIM with their blasphemy .. winked
                  1. Lipchanin
                    Lipchanin 6 September 2019 11: 09
                    0
                    Quote: DEPHIHTO
                    It’s all yours in the government. They plan to whom, when to die, and who should live for how long.

                    Well, where did it come from?
                    1. DEDPIHTO
                      DEDPIHTO 6 September 2019 14: 04
                      0
                      You’ll stick and poke your girls, if they give of course ..
  6. Den717
    Den717 6 September 2019 06: 57
    +1
    There is one question to all this publication in the Ukrainian media: why are Ukrainian reporters so interested in the environmental situation in the Arkhangelsk region of Russia and do not care at all in the Kiev region of Ukraine, where a huge repository is created for European nuclear waste in the contaminated area in the exclusion zone near Chernobyl ? Yes, and Greenpeace is silent about this.

    What a strange question ?! Greenpeace and all movements around it are funded by serious large financial institutions. These organizations, in general, are the main holders of power in the world. They instruct more or less decent questions to be resolved by controlled governments. But all sorts of "dirty deeds" are played by all kinds of NGOs like Greenpeace. Therefore, Greenpeace creeps out into the light of day in those places that are of interest to major investors, such as the Turner Foundation and Rockefeller Brothers Fund. About Ukrainian "zhurno..etich, with reduced .." I am generally silent, today they do not even know what and whose interests they serve.
    1. Ka-52
      Ka-52 6 September 2019 07: 04
      +4
      Therefore, Greenpeace creeps into the light of day in those places that are of interest to major investors

      exactly. When we wanted to build a ferroalloy plant near our town, no Greenpeace smelled
      Our main goal is to assess the risks to nature and man.

      They did not even appear, everything rested on initiative citizens who made a fuss. And here the engaged substances did not fail to check in.
      1. your1970
        your1970 6 September 2019 07: 15
        0
        Quote: Ka-52
        When we wanted to build a ferroalloy plant near our town, no Greenpeace smelled
        Our main goal is to assess the risks to nature and man.
        They did not even appear, everything rested on initiative citizens who made a fuss.
        -Tell me please - WHERE to build a plant - so that he has nearby a manpower, roads, railway transport, raw materials?
        In the remote taiga, are you proposing?
        1. g1washntwn
          g1washntwn 6 September 2019 08: 49
          +2
          I wish you to settle on Red Stone or Vye in Nizhny Tagil, where everything is very convenient and as you have described:
          Quote: your1970
          nearby was labor, roads, railway transport, raw materials
          One bad thing is ecology. I think you hardly want to get into those 500 cases of delayed death precisely because of the unfavorable environment for the "workforce" that are officially announced. Separating the sleeping areas from the sanitary zones of the industrial zone is not a problem at all, taking into account the competent transport issue.
        2. Ka-52
          Ka-52 6 September 2019 09: 14
          +2
          - tell me please - WHERE to build the plant - so that it has a number of manpower, roads, railway transport, raw materials?
          In the remote taiga, are you proposing?

          you know, to be honest, I don’t give a damn where, if I see a prospect for my 9-month-old daughter to breathe the exhaust of this plant. Let them fall into tartarara, let it be the problem of the owners, not my daughter. I’m sixty, I’ve lived, and she’s just starting to live.
  7. annodomene
    annodomene 6 September 2019 07: 21
    0
    Greenpeaces and Bellunas are known to be the Pentagon branches around the world. Incl. "Exhaust" into Alimov's puddle should be divided by 1000 ... And even better - do not pay attention to such "environmentalists" at all.
  8. Russobel
    Russobel 6 September 2019 07: 24
    0
    Yes, drive such green to blue.
    Keep them out of technology.
    And do not pay any attention to them when they are engaged in a blatant slander of Russia.
    But to update the files, periodically ...
  9. Glory1974
    Glory1974 6 September 2019 08: 51
    0
    why are Ukrainian reporters so interested in the environmental situation in the Arkhangelsk region of Russia and do not care at all in the Kiev region of Ukraine, where a huge “repository” for European nuclear waste is being created

    No jokes, but why isn’t the truth about the incident in Nenox coming from our leaders?
    Why does Ekho Moskvy say that the hospital where the victims were being treated had to be decontaminated? Why was it reported that the doctor died from radiation sickness and several others were injured, while the official authorities are silent? They do not refute and do not confirm, which means that it is most likely true.
    The network has shots of barges lying on the shore and where the radioactive background is increased several times, but the authorities are silent again.
    I would also joke about Greenpeace, but my relatives live in the area of ​​the incident, they have children, they are very worried. What rumors there are, I don't want to say. everyone is afraid that it will not work out like in Chernobyl, when, in order not to cause panic, they drove people to the May Day demonstration. Then they repented, but what does this matter to people?
    By the way, nuclear waste burial sites have also been created in Russia, and from the west they are bringing us nuclear waste. Does anyone care in Russia?
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 6 September 2019 09: 17
      +1
      Quote: glory1974
      Why does Ekho Moskvy inform you that the hospital where the victims were being treated had to be decontaminated? Why was it reported that the doctor died from radiation sickness and several others were injured, while the official authorities are silent?

      Have you seen the conclusion about death?
      The echo of matsi will not tell you anything like that ...
      Quote: glory1974
      There are barges on the net

      Yes there is .. they didn’t even come up to them .. The only thing that they really intended (questions by the way to the device) is a piece of rope. 170 X-ray ..
      On a sunny day on the beach, the background is more than 200. The phonite is granite .. and high in the mountains ..
      Immediately after the explosion, the leaders of Rossatom came to Nenoks ... probably immeasurable. HERE, doctors receive a lethal dose from patients, but they climb into hell ...
      1. Glory1974
        Glory1974 6 September 2019 10: 10
        -1
        Have you seen the conclusion about death?
        Echo matsi and still not tell you ..

        If there was an official refutation or an echo, the Matsi were accused of lying, but this was not. Accordingly, this can be considered true.
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 6 September 2019 10: 16
          0
          Quote: glory1974
          Accordingly, this can be considered true.

          Well then, we can consider the secret part of the Molotov-Ribentropp pact, the NKVD order signed by Stalin on the destruction of the Poles in Katyn, and we can also consider the bellingcat version of the Boeing to be true .. In general, any nonsense we can consider to be true, but all because the government doesn’t justifies itself .. For a second .. the burden of condemnation lies with the condemning .. so you have to work hard to find the facts.
          So where is the conclusion about death?
          1. Glory1974
            Glory1974 6 September 2019 10: 29
            -1
            [quote] Well then, we can consider it true [/ quote]
            That's right. If there is no refutation, it can be considered true.
            [quote] In general, we can consider any nonsense to be true, but all because power is not justified [/ quote]
            What do you think is nonsense? The Kremlin’s official apology for killing Poles? The official media message?
            What excuses are you talking about? I am talking about official statements.
            [quote] The burden of condemnation lies with the condemnor .. so you have to work hard to find the facts. [quote]
            what does the condemnation have to do with it? Who condemns whom?
            The media led the fact. Officials must confirm or deny it. Instead, you say with a smile of Mona Lisa that yes, the radiation background is increased, there are radioactive barges, but you are silent about the victims of radiation, demanding some evidence of death. Do you seriously think that such a position explains the official version?
            1. dvina71
              dvina71 6 September 2019 10: 35
              -1
              Quote: glory1974
              The Kremlin’s official apology for killing Poles?

              Link to such a statement.
              Quote: glory1974
              The media led the fact.

              Fact? A copy of the death certificate?
              Quote: glory1974
              but you are silent about the victims of radiation, demanding some evidence of death.

              No one was hurt from radiation. Everyone has fractures and burns.
              Nobody would have been irradiated without primary treatment. But they didn’t use decontamination means in Nenossx.
              1. Glory1974
                Glory1974 6 September 2019 10: 46
                0
                Link to such a statement.

                Through the mouths of President Medvedev and Prime Minister Putin, everyone apologizes to the Poles "for Katyn." And not the first month in Russian society, disputes about this have not subsided. Citizens reproach our authorities for not knowing history or for deliberately ignoring its lessons.
                "The blame for the shooting of Polish officers in Katyn lies with the leadership of the USSR," President Dmitry Medvedev said after talks with his Polish counterpart Bronislaw Komorowski. According to RIA Novosti, Medvedev called attempts to present other versions of events inappropriate. " states of that period. Attempts to present other versions are not based on historical facts, documents, or moral considerations. In this regard, the position of the Russian state remains unchanged, "the president said.

                show photos of the monument too?

                Fact? A copy of the death certificate?

                The media cites the fact of exposure of doctors and asks to consider this an official appeal to the prosecutor. There is no reaction.
                No one was hurt from radiation. Everyone has fractures and burns.
                Nobody would have been irradiated without primary treatment. But they didn’t use decontamination means in Nenossx.

                Where are the facts that no one was hurt from radiation? Where is the fact that there was no decontamination?
                No one knew that the victims were exposed. Therefore, they were assisted in a regular hospital.
                What kind of decontamination complex are you talking about? Dozens of people in chemical protection suits? Which dosimeters examined the building and dismantled luminous objects? Should they have been spotted from space?
                Criticizing my statements you can not cite a single fact. That's exactly what officials do, which causes them to distrust. Just like you. And I also see your ignorance in decontamination and satellite reconnaissance complexes.
      2. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 6 September 2019 10: 33
        -1
        The only thing that they really intended (questions by the way to the device) is a piece of rope .. 170 X-ray ..
        On a sunny day, the beach background is more 200.


        I watched this video of the White Sea Canal yesterday. There were more 750 micro-roentgen. On the shore. And you go and freeze the barge. And the device was a radiometer, not a dosimeter - not enough alpha and beta radiation or isotopes. Glotnesh little radioisotopes and light up a gentle flame ....

        As they wrote under the video - "how is it for you Elon Musk. It’s not to run the falcons. It’s just started and what a beauty, everything is already shining ..."

        As I look, you need to move around the country with a military dosimeter ...
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 6 September 2019 10: 39
          -1
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          There were more than 750 micro-roentgen

          In words. The device really did not show anywhere more than 200.
          Quote: Keyser Soze

          As I look, you need to move around the country with a military dosimeter ...

          We do not invite you .. better not try to come here with something military ..
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          radiometer, not a dosimeter

          This is one and the same .. It can measure both X-rays and sievert ..
          1. Keyser soze
            Keyser soze 6 September 2019 11: 11
            0
            This is one and the same .. It can measure both X-rays and sievert ..


            Well, of course the same thing - a home Radex and a military dosimeter.

            WE ARE NOT INVITING YOU ..


            But I was not going to. Tourism in Khimza is not very attractive. laughing
    2. asv363
      asv363 6 September 2019 10: 20
      0
      Quote: glory1974
      By the way, nuclear waste burial sites have also been created in Russia, and from the west they are bringing us nuclear waste.

      No. The only option allowed by law is to return the fuel we have produced (and sold abroad) for storage and processing. After reprocessing, the buyer country receives RW from reprocessing in radiation equivalent, but without uranium-235, neptunium-237 and plutonium-239.
  10. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 6 September 2019 10: 08
    0
    Greenpeace is a US-controlled organization, its activities in Russia should be banned.
  11. Tests
    Tests 6 September 2019 10: 52
    +2
    dvina71 (Gennady), dear, you quoted the glory of 1974 (glory), but did not answer his question about the silence of the official authorities. In Nenoks GMO Severodvinsk Skubenko when did he appear? In September. He talked about the club and the post office that needed to be built; about the explosion at the training ground, he could not answer the residents anything. And the governor of the Arkhangelsk region Orlov? Not been to this day. In the information war, the initiative was stupidly given by our leaders and leaders, a smaller caliber, to Greenpeace and similar organizations, sadly ... The Arkhangelsk Regional Hospital was deactivated - a fact. At the hospital to them. Semashko FMBA of Russia in Arkhangelsk do not know the details yet. We are trying to keep silent about the injured and dead soldiers at the level of the fleet and the country. In a century of mobile communications and the Internet, well ... TsMSCH No. 58 of the Federal Medical and Biological Agency of Russia in Severodvinsk, by order by phone on August 08, 2019, printed out the NZ stocks of medications, canceled the planned operations, and prepared the operating ones. Thanks to the citizen of the Russian Federation, Putin - he killed the Gosnarkokontrol, otherwise the opera to control the official turnover of narcotic and potent substances would have taken explanations from the deputy. the chief physician for medical work and with the chief nurse of the central medical center No. 58 of what and how many and by whose order you took out ... from the NZ warehouse by telephone (without a piece of paper in Russia ... 08.08.2019., disconnecting the alarm from the hangar ...
    On August 31, 2019, pontoons half-covered with sand, twisted by an explosion, lay on the surf line near the mouth of the Verkhovka River. According to the filming of the correspondent of "BelomorKanal", there were lighted objects on the shore. I hope you remember how many times a day the White Sea "breathes" by the tide, judging by your nickname.
    Let me remind you once again - neither the Ministry of Emergencies, nor the Hydromet, nor the Federal Service for Supervision of Consumer Rights Protection and Human Welfare, either in Nenoksa, in the village of Sopka, or in the pontoons, were allowed. S o.p. 22 km train Severodvinsk-Nenoksa restricted area of ​​the Nenoksinsky training ground - the military will issue passes if you want to pass. The authorities acknowledged that the maximum excess was in Severodvinsk from 4 to 16 times at 11 hours 55 minutes, the longest-lived with a half-life of 12,8 days was called lanthanum -140, according to a statement from Roshydromet. Strontium -91, barium -139 and barium -140 live less. The explosion occurred at 09h 20 min. 08.08.2019/0/XNUMX it is easy to calculate when the potential danger is equal to XNUMX. But there is a small BUT. Where did the radioactive gases settle and how were they absorbed, especially in porous materials, for example, in mineral heaters, which are widely used in Severodvinsk now for insulation of house facades during repairs carried out by the regional overhaul fund ??? And how does concrete absorb them, and brick without plaster in the masonry?
    I have been to reactors many times - I worked in the outfitting shop "Zvezdochka" in the early 80s. At the end of the 80s I had a chance to check how Paldiski was guarded, at the same time, at the very beginning of the 90s, I visited Snechkus. I visited boats in Severodvinsk both in the 90s and in the 00s. And I know details about radiation since childhood - the highest position of my dad was at Sevmash - the deputy head of the OTB.
    1. Mexican. 29
      Mexican. 29 8 September 2019 01: 44
      0
      Dear Tests, I agree, whatever one may say, there is a threat, no one has been involved in the analysis of the consequences, or everything is hidden. With Shies now the authorities are not up to radiation
  12. hohol95
    hohol95 6 September 2019 14: 10
    0
    There is one question to all this publication in the Ukrainian media: why are Ukrainian reporters so interested in the environmental situation in the Arkhangelsk region of Russia and do not care at all in the Kiev region of Ukraine, where a huge repository is created for European nuclear waste in the contaminated area in the exclusion zone near Chernobyl ? Yes, and Greenpeace is silent about this.

    In the United States itself, "ecologists" have achieved close attention to glass factories in one of the states. Producers were ordered to find $ 3 million to improve treatment facilities! They refused to do this and moved production to Mexico! Now on the territory of Mexico there are new glass factories with a primitive purification of emitted vapors and gases, but "ecologists" are no longer worried about this! Everything was quiet. In the state, the air quality has improved!
    That's the whole "GREENPEAS". The venal wench of capitalism!
  13. APASUS
    APASUS 6 September 2019 21: 20
    0
    It's time to get used to the fact that Greenpeace is an instrument of influence. Look how many "wash" in the media Chernobyl and there is generally no flow of information about Fukushima, but there is an order of magnitude more tragedy there!
    There is nothing to seek the truth from Greenpeace, who knows why there are no offices of this office in France, he will understand