Putin spoke about missile production plans previously banned by the INF Treaty

Russia will develop and manufacture medium- and shorter-range missiles previously banned by the INF Treaty, but will not deploy them first. This was stated by Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Speaking at the plenary session of the Eastern Economic Forum, the Russian president said that Russia would produce missiles previously prohibited by the Treaty on the Elimination of Intermediate and Shorter-Range Missiles, but would not deploy them first until the United States did so. At the same time, he stressed that Russian missiles will be deployed only in response to the deployment of American ones.

We have already publicly announced that we will not post it after the Americans tested such a missile. We will not deploy, we will produce the same missiles, of course - in those regions where American-made missiles of this land-based class will not appear

- Putin said.

The Russian leader also indicated that the United States is ready to deploy missiles previously prohibited by the treaty in Japan and South Korea, hiding under the alleged threat of an attack by North Korea, and this will lead to the fact that a large territory of Russia, including the Far East, will fall under American missiles. This is a very important issue and it will be discussed separately with the governments of Japan and South Korea.

The fact that the Pentagon leader announced that the United States intends to place them in Japan and South Korea does not make us happy, it disturbs us and causes some concern

- Putin said.

Comments

[WILL]

The same Gauges, you need to put on ground platforms!

[Civil]

As in the old joke:

The man decided to stop drinking vodka. Walks down the street, sees his favorite store
liquor, and says to himself: I’ll complicate my task, to the store
I’ll come, but I won’t buy anything. - I went in. He sees his favorite vodka, and
thinks: I complicate the task - I buy, I bring it home but I do not pour it. - I bought it.
He brought it home, put it on the table, and thinks: now I’ll pour it on, but I won’t drink.
- Poured. He looks and thinks: I’ll take it in my mouth, but I won’t drink it. - I took a sip,
and ... swallowed ...
- By willpower! I didn’t want to, but I drank it!

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Civil

- By willpower! I didn’t want to, but I drank it!

And I liked the other:
In Soviet times, mom went to the store, and daughter, so as not to be bored, put a record with fairy tales in the player. How long she went for a short time, but when she came home she saw this picture: the daughter beats in hysterics on the floor and shouts:
- Want! Want! Want! And from the player, the voice of Nikolai Litvinov:
- Hello, my little friend! Do you want me to tell you a fairy tale? ... click ... Hello, my little friend! Do you want me to tell you a fairy tale? ... click ... Hello, my little friend! Do you want me to tell you a story? ... click ...

[kot423]

Not only. You can put "Frontier" (rs-26).

[Angelica]

Not only. You can put "Frontier" (rs-26).

"Rubezh" RS-26 intercontinental missile. It does not belong to the INF Treaty. Moreover, it is already a ground launch. From a mobile ground missile system.

[kot423]

Banned on the wiki?
"RS-26" Rubezh "is a Russian project of a mobile ground-based strategic missile system with an intercontinental ballistic missile. It is a further development of the" Yars "project (RS-24" Yars ") with new guided warheads for breaking through anti-missile defense, which itself is a modification missile system "Topol-M".

Compared to the Yars RS-24, the self-contained rocket launcher of the RS-26 missile system is significantly lighter (less than 80 tons compared to the 120 tons of the Yars). A missile can launch at range targets 2000-6000 km (which, in the opinion of the United States, violates the INF Treaty).

[Angelica]

... (which, in the opinion of the United States, violates the INF Treaty).

US opinion to the lantern.

[kot423]

To me all the more The essence was in the allocated 2000-6000km.

[bayard]

What's with the tons? You painted "Yars" harder than "Well done"?
Read Wikipedia carefully, since you do not have other sources.

[Grits]

Quote: kot423

The missile can be launched on targets at a range of 2000-6000 km

The frontier turned out to be almost a universal rocket - it will go to any platform. mine can be installed in Chukotka - there on Gudyma almost all the infrastructure is ready. These are gifts from Alaska and California. Mobile can be in Primorye. And there is a road network and there are enough forests to mask and prepare sites and basing places. This is a Japs with Koreans scare. The South Koreans will scream at all - not only will their counterparts from the north scare us, our missiles will appear, and the Chinese will take aim.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: ANIMAL

The same Gauges, you need to put on ground platforms!

Yes, something like they have long been standing on them

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: ANIMAL

The same Gauges, you need to put on ground platforms!

These "Calibers" were given to you! And if it turns out that "Caliber" is not the best option? What can you "think up" and better than "Caliber"? Like a modernized GZUR?

[lis-ik]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

Quote: ANIMAL

The same Gauges, you need to put on ground platforms!

These "Calibers" were given to you! And if it turns out that "Caliber" is not the best option? What can you "think up" and better than "Caliber"? Like a modernized GZUR?

Then "Khibiny", or better "Dagger" with "Poseidon" immediately.

[Ehanatone]

"What can you" think of "and better than" Caliber "? Type of a modernized GZUR"
Hto such GZUR?

[NEXUS]

Quote: ANIMAL

The same Gauges, you need to put on ground platforms!

For ground systems, Caliber-M is already being developed, with an increased range.

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Quote: ANIMAL

The same Gauges, you need to put on ground platforms!

So they already stand, on the railway platform.

[Piramidon]

Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS

Quote: ANIMAL

The same Gauges, you need to put on ground platforms!

So they already stand, on the railway platform.

While it is "Club-K" with a range of up to 500 km

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS

Quote: ANIMAL

The same Gauges, you need to put on ground platforms!

So they already stand, on the railway platform.

While it is "Club-K" with a range of up to 500 km

They have one range, the one that was.

[Piramidon]

Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS

They have one range, the one that was.

So far I am guided by the official data for "Club-K". Well, the rest we can only assume. I also think that the unofficial range is MUCH more

[KCA]

Club-K is an export version of "Caliber" under the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and Missile Technologies, its range is limited to 300 km

[Ros 56]

And who said that they are not? Do not show if, it does not mean anything.

[NEXUS]

And why look at when the United States will put such missiles on duty? They either put them in any case, or have already delivered them. And the US satellites designated us as aggressors. Whatever it may be, the stench will rise anyway, regardless of when we respond in return to put such missiles on duty.

[Piramidon]

Well, like, we are peaceful people ... If these missiles are on a mobile chassis like Iskander, then they can be deployed very quickly.

[Grits]

Quote: NEXUS

And why look at when the United States will put such missiles on duty? They either put them in any case, or have already delivered them.

In any case, the infrastructure for them already needs to start to be prepared

[Nevsky_ZU]

We have already publicly announced that we will not post it after the Americans tested such a missile. We will not deploy, we will produce the same missiles, of course - in those regions where American-made missiles of this land-based class will not appear

I did not understand, but what then stands in Romania and Poland? Is it not universal blocks for both missile defense and RMD? If the Americans have already experienced, then how can we know what's in Romania and Poland?

[donavi49]

Well, for now, it's just impractical. Sense from 30 Axes? That's when they begin to build bases in 6-10 launch pads on 48 missiles in each. And without the expensive IJIS with a management system. Then that's definitely not ABM.

And one more thing is forgotten. In 80's, mobile soil complexes were already operating in the USA. In the current realities, it is extremely difficult to counter them, precisely at a jerk.

That is, mobile complexes are located at bases in Poland and Romania. But there are agreements with Georgia, the Baltic states and Ukraine. The team to deploy through 2-3 of the day the starting line of Rakveri-Sumy-Telavi. That is, in one jerk, 800-1400km reduce flight time / increase reach inland.

[Lipchanin]

but will not post them first until the United States does.

Masterpiece
The defenders went out to place them and they all know this very well.
And now we have a clear position for those who ask to host them.
"We warned you"

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Lipchanin

"We warned you"

I have already said that all warnings should be accompanied by leaflets describing the consequences of the use of missiles by Russia in a retaliatory strike. With specific data on the temperature in the center of the explosion, the strength of the shock wave and the consequences of radioactive contamination ... Let them not entertain themselves with illusory hopes ...

[ProkletyiPirat]

Quote: ROSS 42

Quote: Lipchanin

"We warned you"

I have already said that all warnings should be accompanied by leaflets describing the consequences of the use of missiles by Russia in a retaliatory strike. With specific data on the temperature in the center of the explosion, the strength of the shock wave and the consequences of radioactive contamination ...

All this is not effective, too empty dry numbers, diagrams and graphs that do not cause a clear association "choice <=> problem".

[Ehanatone]

"All this is not effective, too empty dry numbers, diagrams and graphs do not cause clear associations"
You can add the Aglitsky film about the first day after the nuclear bombing ...
For some reason, he was banned from the Nagliya ...
And so is our educational film about radiation sickness - translate it and send it to bed with all agitation ...

[Grits]

Quote: ROSS 42

With specific data on the temperature at the center of the explosion, the strength of the shock wave and the consequences of radioactive contamination.

And also with applications of pictures of burning cities and towns, fields and forests, mountains of charred corpses, melted and glazed structures. With the application of two pictures - their city BEFORE and their city AFTER.

[rocket757]

STARTED! almost ... dashing trouble beginning!

[steelmaker]

As long as these two countries exist - England and the USA, the world will always be on the brink of war! Their policy comes down to one thing - we are gentlemen, you are slaves. Either you submit to us or we destroy you. They will come to an agreement when there is a threat of destruction. If we do not want to destroy them as they are us, then we must arm ourselves and wait for the attack. Because defending never win a war.

[ProkletyiPirat]

Quote: steel maker

As long as these two countries exist - England and the USA, the world will always be on the brink of war!

The problem lies much deeper than the action of these two countries. If they were not there would be others.

[KVU-NSVD]

It is better to immediately indicate in the military doctrine that when a missile arrives from a country that has American missiles on its territory, we reserve the right to strike at once and on a brazen striped muzzle .. and with anything, without exchanging for "adequate" answers

[Lord of the Sith]

More than sure that medium and shorter range missiles have been around for a long time, only they are not deployed.
Or maybe they were deployed in the strictest secrecy, but they forgot to tell the "Western partners" about it

[turcom]

Yes, it’s unlikely that ours always played fair. Honestly chopped missiles, launchers, carrier aircraft, etc. etc. Striped, rubbing their hands, traveled all over Russia, watching how equipment is destroyed.

[Vladimir16]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

More than sure that medium and shorter range missiles have been around for a long time, only they are not deployed.

And there is a bigfoot, only we don’t see him. And the Loch Ness monster exists.

[AAK]

I don’t know how about the production of SMD missiles, I would be more pleased with the message about the start of production of the entire line of new engines for military and civilian aircraft, ships, submarines ...

[tarabar]

To discard any politeness and organize a "leak" of the counter-strike plan through the territories of states where the infrastructure and potential for a surprise attack are located. And there should be no illusions that it will suddenly carry over and maybe we will survive, no, the number of goals and the outfit of forces for destruction should show that the destruction will be total and the restoration of statehood is unlikely. Let then all podniks such as Poland, Romania, the Baltic states, Japan, South Korea and others who wish pray that the flock of migratory geese, illuminated on radars, will not be mistaken by us for attacking cruise missiles. If we are constantly put up for monsters or fools with a grenade, although they know that we do not pose any danger to them, then everything, no need to persuade, tired, we need to become like we are described, and let them be afraid of us for fun, but now let them be really afraid , all the same, all our attempts to convince them are pointless and useless. Note how comical it was to watch the news from S. Korea during the crisis about the "comprehensive and crushing response", but they abandoned them and transferred the conflict to another plane. This is what will means. It will be difficult for us to oppose the West symmetrically; we can only oppose will and determination. Remember how many squeals there were when the silhouette of Florida was visible in the animation of the falling blocks, and so, I think, when the hometowns of the same Poles are visible in the list of targets, sobering up will become a little closer, because in which case they will not even know how it ended. Well, about the decision-making centers, let the Strategic Missile Forces have a headache.

[kot423]

Quote: NEXUS

Why look at

Well ... Do you firmly believe that this is exactly what is happening with us (based on official news)? Judging by indirect (namely indirect) leaks in one segment or another - the mattresses are not just running out of pressure (but they are not able to prove and yell for the whole world, otherwise it would have been a howl for a long time), so ... The game of nerves, as usual, is was, is, and will be.

[Tektor]

For the Yankees, absolutely any of our deployment of RSDs is absolutely in a drum, if they do not occupy the territory of the United States. States can place their RSD at least in Estonia or Kazakhstan ... But it will be sensitive to them if in response to place the RS-26 Frontier in Gudym near Anadyr. And the Tu-160M2 there.

[Old26]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS

They have one range, the one that was.

So far I am guided by the official data for "Club-K". Well, the rest we can only assume. I also think that the unofficial range is MUCH more

Quote: angelica

Not only. You can put "Frontier" (rs-26).

"Rubezh" RS-26 intercontinental missile. It does not belong to the INF Treaty. Moreover, it is already a ground launch. From a mobile ground missile system.

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: ANIMAL

The same Gauges, you need to put on ground platforms!

Yes, something like they have long been standing on them

Can you name the compounds where these calibers are already standing? With the numbers of brigades and locations?

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: ANIMAL

The same Gauges, you need to put on ground platforms!

For ground systems, Caliber-M is already being developed, with an increased range.

Which is still unknown even when it goes to the test.

Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS

Quote: ANIMAL

The same Gauges, you need to put on ground platforms!

So they already stand, on the railway platform.

And where do they stand? "Name, sister, name" (c). Sound the locations of such complexes. Just don't say it's terribly secret. All brigades equipped with Iskander are known. The places of their deployment and military unit numbers are also known. So where are the "Calibers" ???

Quote: Piramidon

So far I am guided by the official data for "Club-K". Well, the rest we can only assume. I also think that the unofficial range is MUCH more

Of course, you can be guided by the official data of the "Club-K" complex. Only here is the problem. These complexes do not exist in nature. It is enough to look through the annual reports of the manufacturer to understand that such a complex (container) does not exist in nature. There are only 2-3 containers that were regularly transported to exhibitions and a PR campaign that no one fell for ...

Quote: Ros 56

And who said that they are not? Do not show if, it does not mean anything.

Yeah. The release of these complexes does not appear anywhere, the formations (brigades) equipped with this complex also do not exist, then they, like gophers in a famous phrase, it turns out to be ... "We have such complexes, but they are terribly secret and therefore we tell you nothing about them. we will not tell. " Yeah ....

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

I did not understand, but what then stands in Romania and Poland? Is it not universal blocks for both missile defense and RMD? If the Americans have already experienced, then how can we know what's in Romania and Poland?

And what can you put there? "tomahawks" with a maximum range of 1600 km and a high-explosive (penetrating) warhead? In fact, there are no nuclear charges on the Tomahawks. The MK-41 universal launchers are the same as the 9P78-1 launchers for the Iskander. which, when fired on a classical, and not on a quasi-ballistic trajectory, automatically turns into a medium-range missile and, accordingly, the launcher itself all this years of the ball is also, to put it mildly "illegal". the one or what?
By the way, the article, and not only this one, deals with ballistic missiles. In fact, the United States and Russia have medium-range cruise missiles, and it is not difficult to adapt these missiles to launch from a ground launcher. Only software, flight missions and more are changing.

Quote: donavi49

Well, for now, it's just impractical. Sense of 30 Axes?

From 24

Quote: Lord of the Sith

More than sure that medium and shorter range missiles have been around for a long time, only they are not deployed.
Or maybe they were deployed in the strictest secrecy, but they forgot to tell the "Western partners" about it

The treaty allowed the design (creation) of such missiles. But their creation in metal, and testing (not to mention deployment - no). Since, how can there be a missile that has not been tested. You can draw anything, call it a "medium-range missile", but in reality it will not exist, because a missile that has not passed the tests is a kind of "spherical horse in a vacuum."
To deploy in secrecy without testing (which is physically impossible to hide) - this is of course very creative. But it’s not even a fantasy, but a bullshit

Quote from tarabar

To discard any politeness and organize a "leak" of the counter-strike plan through the territories of states where the infrastructure and potential for a surprise attack are located. And there should be no illusions that it will suddenly carry over and maybe we will survive, no, the number of goals and the outfit of forces for destruction should show that the destruction will be total and the restoration of statehood is unlikely.

I beg your pardon, but it’s babble for the population of the country, for the electorate. Corresponding structures already know which objects on their territory may be subject to enemy attack. To declare a list of goals, especially as some suggest in the media, is stupid. The unknown factor (where you will be hit) is much worse and more effective than media publications

[Zaurbek]

In some cases, the Iskander rocket can be lengthened; in some cases, the Boundary can be shortened. Our RSD must get somewhere and the United States. We need to clearly understand what ranges we need.

[Old26]

Quote: Zaurbek

In some cases, the Iskander rocket can be lengthened; in some cases, the Boundary can be shortened. Our RSD must get somewhere and the United States. We need to clearly understand what ranges we need.

There is no need for this. To lengthen one missile or shorten another is essentially creating a new missile and conducting the whole test cycle with it. Expensive and impractical.
Changing the Iskander's software and launching it along a classical ballistic trajectory will automatically lead to an increase in the range and a medium-range missile.
You can "play around" with the throw weight, with channels in a solid propellant charge, in extreme cases. The same is true for Rubezh. It is enough to increase the throw weight and a rocket flying a maximum of 5800 km will fly away at a distance less than 5500 km, that is, it will cease to be intercontinental

[Gennady Fomkin]

“We need Europe for several decades, and then we must turn our backs on it,” Peter -1 said to his close associate, diplomat, Count Andrei Osterman.

[Old26]

Quote: KCA

Club-K is an export version of "Caliber" under the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and Missile Technologies, its range is limited to 300 km

No. This is not true. The Club-K index means not just the export version of "Caliber", but its container version.
Export options "Caliber" are divided into the following
1. Aviation option - Club-a - An export version of the Caliber family for launching from aircraft. Theoretically, this family includes 3M54AE missiles (with a supersonic combat stage), 3M54AE1, 3M14AE

2. Club-S - An export version of the Caliber family of missiles for launching from submarines. This family includes 3M54E missiles (with a supersonic combat stage), 3M54E1, 3M14E, 91RE1 (with the APR-3ME torpedo as a warhead)

3. Club-n - An export version of the Caliber family of missiles for launching from surface ships. This family includes 3M54TE missiles (with a supersonic combat stage), 3M54TE1, 3M14TE, 91RTE2 (with a torpedo MPT-1ME as a warhead)