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Medicine and demography are acute problems of Russia

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In 2019, the year began the implementation of one of the key and most expensive national projects in Russia called Demography. 3 047 390 600 rubles will be spent on the implementation of this project. It is planned to be completed by the year 2024. One of the main goals that will be achieved during this project is to stimulate fertility in Russia.


Medicine and demography are acute problems of Russia


It is no secret that the urgent need for the implementation of the national project “Demography” is largely due to disappointing forecasts regarding an increase in the birth rate in our country in the near future.

Are there any positive developments in this direction now, when about one and a half trillion rubles have already been spent? Can acute problems of medicine and demography be solved?

The host of Political Enlightenment, Klim Zhukov, believes that there is no positive progress so far, citing Rosstat data for the first half of last year as confirmation. He is sure that the healthcare system is one of the most important components of the survival and quality of life of the population and, accordingly, the increase in the demographic level. Today, medicine in our country is at a very low level. Who is interested in her deplorable state? Why is modern medicine not yet able to stop the extinction of Russia? Perhaps this is not so much a matter of medicine as of social policy pursued in Russia. If this policy is built up properly, then the positive in demography will not be long in coming.



And this is a video by Konstantin Semin on "medical topics" from Nizhny Tagil, where a scandal recently broke out with the mass dismissal of surgeons. The scandal reached the federal center, and the problem was noticed. But how much more time and money is needed to solve such problems throughout Russia:

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  1. Svarog
    Svarog 5 September 2019 11: 02 New
    +13
    These problems have been known to everyone for a long time, but they still cannot be solved. Moreover, they are aggravated by pension reforms, taxes and other “joys”. With such people in power, they will not be resolved. The liberal government has long shown and proved not effective, and the president does not think so. So change everyone!
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 5 September 2019 11: 09 New
      +13
      Medicine and demography are acute problems of Russia
      apparently that's why we closed the "maternity hospital", in an area with a population of 30 people. - struggling with "demography". what is wrong with power?
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 5 September 2019 11: 19 New
        +9
        Quote: Aerodrome
        what is wrong with power?

        It's not like that, they work not for the country, but for their personal interests .. and there is nobody to ask from them .. the president is happy with the work of the government .. It turns out that they are completely irresponsible, they don’t answer to anyone, they do what they want, or rather, what they profitable, not paying attention to citizens .. A complete mess and the end of this mess is not visible ..
        1. insafufa
          insafufa 6 September 2019 10: 34 New
          0
          Here is Noah and Noah, that the country is not that and the government is not that, and most importantly the sovereign is fake. Honestly, the USSR collapsed from the beginning, then a bright future from Mexican TV shows did not happen at all, only misery happened. There is such a saying that we have something invaluable, but having lost weeping. These are brothers about us. We have no sincere faith in God and there is a lot of laziness. So let the brothers work hard and defend their interests from the beginning before the employer, then before the state, until when will we put up with the RFP in envelopes?
      2. Nestorych
        Nestorych 5 September 2019 11: 24 New
        +7
        what is wrong with power?

        Everything is wrong, it is not subject to reform and improvement, only full reformatting.))
      3. Doctor
        Doctor 5 September 2019 12: 40 New
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        apparently that's why we closed the "maternity hospital", in an area with a population of 30 people.

        And what kind of city, if not secret?
      4. Greg Miller
        Greg Miller 5 September 2019 13: 29 New
        +4
        From the point of view of our elite, an ideal state has already been built. The ruling class has actually implemented all the tasks that it faced. They all have and are not responsible for anything. And they have no motive to develop this state and somehow improve the society. You need to understand that they are already well. Hence their task is to extend this state of buzz as long as possible and maintain the existing order. It is precisely for this that the ruling class spends and will spend all its energy.

        Alexander Samovarov, from the book “Do we need to return to the USSR”
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 9 September 2019 08: 22 New
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      Sergej1972 (Sergey) Yesterday, 17:57 NEW
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      In many hospitals, new equipment is simply not used. Either there are no specialists, or they do not want or cannot study, improve their qualifications.
      Perhaps the administration does not have the money to run, although if the contract is signed, then it contains both service and training. The financing situation is approaching a critical point. Large clinics survive mainly due to paid services. 70% of deductions of SK and FFOMS-defects in medical records. This is the official FFOMS data. In our clinic, the latest data on my work is 64%. Another truth of life is non-compliance with clinical guidelines and standards. In our region, even private centers do not do some research — expensive and not cost-effective. Nevertheless, SK-parasitizing on this squeeze money. In and live. We have some 30 beds because of this they lose more money than 375 beds of a specialized center in the same clinic ..
  2. Desdecado
    Desdecado 5 September 2019 11: 25 New
    +11
    The guarantor with his boyars has already sat up on the people's neck and on the country's resources, until they enthusiastically plunder everything further - no problems that are created thanks to them will be solved ..
  3. mavrus
    mavrus 5 September 2019 11: 25 New
    +8
    Of all the "medicine" under Skvortsova, only the "fight against smoking" is progressing, the rest is only for big money and abroad.
    1. Van 16
      Van 16 5 September 2019 12: 58 New
      +8
      If possible, I would clarify - not the fight against smoking, but the fight against smokers hi
  4. rocket757
    rocket757 5 September 2019 11: 28 New
    +6
    In 2019, the implementation of one of the key and most expensive national projects in Russia called “Demography” began. 3 047 390 600 rubles will be spent on the implementation of this project.

    Loans are loud, as always, and even the social orientation in them is visible, among other things !!!
    Just from all this, outlined and loudly announced, will remain when it all comes to the "bottom" ??? To all of us the rest, whom they DO NOT classify as not themselves / their loved ones!
    Ratings are always put in the end! Here's the thing, in the past, you can set something above 0?
  5. Potato
    Potato 5 September 2019 12: 13 New
    +8
    Perhaps, not a single targeted program of the government and leading parties has ended successfully, except for agriculture. But there, too, it is not all unambiguous and not the fact that success in harvesting wheat, for example, is associated with the success of the corresponding state program.

    The most important thing is the economy. And judging by the constant and powerful inflation and falling incomes of the population, the economy is also a failure. Where does the income of export resource companies go? Unclear....

    As for demography, demography does not depend much on the quality of medicine. As an example, developing countries with significant population growth and without universally accessible quality medicine.

    Even in the Russian Federation there is an increase in population and an improvement in the demographic situation. But this applies only to individual republics of the Caucasus. The Slavic population of the Russian Federation is rapidly declining.

    To a greater extent, it seems to me, it depends on social norms, rules, the structure and behavior of society in matters of creating a family and having children.

    This is not to say that the standard of living is too low to start a family and children anywhere in our country. As an example, again, the demographic situation in many countries where the standard of living is lower than in the Russian Federation.

    Most likely, the problem of the Russian Federation is in the licentiousness and social injustice of society, in pronounced stratification in terms of wealth, in fierce competition, in the wrong conceptual and value apparatus (false values ​​of life), venality of women and the irresponsibility of men, in the spirit of universal egoism and aggression.

    People in the Russian Federation are so-so, they are dying out! Look at yourself and be horrified.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 5 September 2019 12: 27 New
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      Quote: Potato
      Most likely, the problem of the Russian Federation is in the licentiousness and social injustice of society, in pronounced stratification in terms of wealth, in fierce competition, in the wrong conceptual and value apparatus (false values ​​of life), venality of women and the irresponsibility of men, in the spirit of universal egoism and aggression.

      The question is - where is it wrong?
      This is not an excuse, it is a diagnosis for most developed countries ....
      We have the truth with the development of something necessary, socially, for people significant, very "sour" .....
      They are naturally trying to argue that we aren’t like that, such a life! A very convenient excuse when laziness / not leisure \ it’s scary to change something in your life! Although, this is not quite life, it is rather a survival!
      1. Potato
        Potato 5 September 2019 12: 52 New
        +4
        My opinion is that you should not compare life-fed people from the countries of the developed West and ours. We did not have such satiety. Most likely, on the issue of the development of our society, we turned the wrong way. I think that this is all the result of the tragedy of the 90s. At the same time, the 90s have not yet ended.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 5 September 2019 14: 17 New
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          Quote: Potato
          We did not have such satiety.

          It was not, but really wanted, especially the top! Just when they broke, betrayed all the former, they forgot to explain to the lower ones that this will not be very everyone!
          We have what we got, and not what we wanted .... and then the "stress" and now it dies more than it is born! The reason is not the only one of many.
    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 8 September 2019 17: 55 New
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      The Finno-Ugric population of the Russian Federation is declining no less rapidly than the Russians.
  6. Yngvar
    Yngvar 5 September 2019 12: 20 New
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    Quote:
    "One of the main goals that will be achieved during this project is to stimulate fertility in Russia."

    Can at first, or at least in parallel with the project, the very living of the population be stimulated? The attitude of people is that simple: "Why produce poverty!"
    1. Potato
      Potato 5 September 2019 12: 27 New
      -3
      Why is poverty? Are you a beggar? Poverty is when problems with a person’s natural needs for normal development and a comfortable life. This does not need luxury goods, I remind you.
      1. Yngvar
        Yngvar 5 September 2019 12: 36 New
        +6
        Not yet, but soon to retire ...
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    2. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 5 September 2019 13: 57 New
      -2
      How can fertility be stimulated? Money cannot solve this problem. The experience of Western Europe is obvious: despite the developed social sphere, the birth rate is not higher than ours. And the mentality just can’t be changed.
  7. Baloo
    Baloo 5 September 2019 12: 25 New
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    "... depreciation of medical equipment ..." The truth of life: in the late 80s, the whole range of domestic medical equipment from digital blood analyzers to tomographs was developed and tested in the USSR. I myself read this thick order, in which the plants that were supposed to produce this equipment were designated. And who now remembers that in the early 70's our cosmonauts flew into space with an electrocardiogram the size of a book (!) Of domestic design?
    Sorry. that the GDP about this order of the Ministry of Health of the USSR and about these developments does not know anything. Medical equipment is the same strategic industry. Orders for medical equipment could well load the defense industry.
    The mid-70s, after the third year there was a "sisterly" practice in the neighboring region. A small town of 20-25 thousand people. A river port, a woodworking industry and a small factory producing radio tape recorders of the highest and 1st class, expensive at the time, but not worse in quality than Japanese ones.
    So it was the production of vocational schools at the factory. We all can, but what happens? Pension reform ..., blah blah about the four-day week the Ministry of Health supports. What is going on there in Moscow at the top? I still believe in the president, the government led by the mededev does not understand. Why are the decrees of GDP not implemented, is that sabotage?
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 8 September 2019 17: 57 New
      0
      In many hospitals, new equipment is simply not used. Either there are no specialists, or they do not want or cannot study, improve their qualifications.
  8. carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 5 September 2019 12: 50 New
    +2
    FIG knows. I have a third child on the way)
  9. Potato
    Potato 5 September 2019 12: 55 New
    -4
    Do you have any grandchildren? Could your children not be able to raise and provide your grandchildren with conditions no worse than in which your youth passed? So why don't they want the same?
    1. nikvic46
      nikvic46 5 September 2019 17: 28 New
      +1
      Antokha. With security, everything is in order. Grandchildren are dressed, shod, fed. And often with the money that parents earn in a strange city.
  10. yehat
    yehat 5 September 2019 13: 02 New
    +7
    Quote: Arzt
    And what kind of city, if not secret?

    close in bulk. In the Leningrad region, the maternity hospital remains only in the district centers
    points with a population of 20-40 thousand are left without basic institutions - not only medicine - there are no post offices, banks, penal funds and other social institutions. There are large points where there is not a single bakery or bakery. There are almost no schools left in villages and schools. Infrastructure is massively curtailed to an African minimum.
    And this is not only an area. I live in the St. Petersburg region with a population of 165 thousand.
    There is not a single item or machine for accepting payments for electricity. Only Sberbank.
    for the entire district 2 schools. In my homeland, in a city with a population of 85 thousand, there were 11 secondary schools and 4 specialized schools in the USSR.
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 5 September 2019 13: 11 New
      0
      depending on where the national education project. for example, in the same Khabarovsk next year, two new schools plus one rural in Nanai district are opening. I know for sure that they spent one 1.3 yards of rubles.
    2. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 5 September 2019 14: 00 New
      -3
      This is what area of ​​St. Petersburg is so unreached by civilization? By the way, it is more convenient to make payments through online banking.
    3. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 8 September 2019 18: 00 New
      0
      In most regions, the maternity hospital has always been only in district centers or cities of regional subordination. On the other hand, in the Oryol region there are, for example, areas with a population of 5-10 thousand people. Naturally, the hospital closed there for a long time.
  11. Galleon
    Galleon 5 September 2019 13: 24 New
    +8
    In these one and a half trillions, for some reason, the last 600 rubles are clinging. Wow, what deliberation. I wonder how many factories for the production of medical equipment were built with money from this huge amount? In the Yaroslavl region, I heard that they built a plant for the production of disposable tableware for analysis and other test tubes. And also? Diagnostic something? Who saw the text of this program, share, people? I understand that there should be a normal book of several hundred pages, which includes several sections: planning, deployment, and stages, forecasting effectiveness ... But all kind of reverse efficiency is climbing.
    I looked at the materials of this program on the website of the Ministry of Labor. No plants are provided. Many points are curious in terms of adequacy. For instance:
    1.1. Objective: Organized retraining and advanced training of women during parental leave for children under the age of three years, including those living in the Far Eastern Federal District, in accordance with a specific priority rating of the relevant regional programs of the Far Eastern Federal District.
    Characteristic of the result: The implementation of measures to organize retraining and advanced training of women during parental leave until they reach the age of three years helps to create adaptive conditions for returning this category of women to work, as well as increase their competitiveness in the labor market and increase professional mobility .

    Professional mobility for mother with a young child ??? Where is the medical board when hiring the person who wrote this ???
    This is on the 3rd page. I didn’t look further. Sorry, you need to work))
  12. ivagulin
    ivagulin 5 September 2019 14: 38 New
    +3
    not a medic, but save humanity. Well, recently there was a meeting with the largest chief officers in the region, so they blurted out, “we still have a lot of deeply subsidized plots,” and this is a civil service that, by principle, should not earn. Doctors apparently have the same parsley
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 8 September 2019 18: 01 New
      0
      My uncle used to say: "Doctors save individuals, and vets save humanity.")
  13. Nana Panina
    Nana Panina 5 September 2019 15: 05 New
    +1
    Thank! Very informative and honest!
  14. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 5 September 2019 15: 42 New
    +5
    Many may be surprised. But the point is, my child, well over thirty, does not work as an ordinary doctor at a prestigious medical university, has a degree, and teaches. When we begin to discuss the state of affairs in medicine, he stubbornly repeats, "There are breakthroughs, but the whole Holocaust." I have no reason not to trust him and there is not enough argumentation.
  15. yehat
    yehat 5 September 2019 16: 20 New
    +2
    Quote: carstorm 11
    depending on where the national education project. for example, in the same Khabarovsk next year, two new schools plus one rural in Nanai district are opening. I know for sure that they spent one 1.3 yards of rubles.

    we discuss the average temperature in a hospital.
    individual bursts are pleasant, but they are separate and do not change the picture, especially because of the schools
    your territory is not counted for something else important - for example, fuel and lubricants reserves for the winter.
  16. yehat
    yehat 5 September 2019 16: 21 New
    +2
    Quote: ODERVIT
    There are breakthroughs, but the whole Holocaust. "

    so can be said about most of our economy.
  17. yehat
    yehat 5 September 2019 16: 27 New
    +3
    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    By the way, it is more convenient to make payments through online banking.

    Yes, but it’s consumer fascism. a person is required to have a computer or cell for operations.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 8 September 2019 18: 03 New
      0
      Yes, right now there are no marginals on cellular and (or) computers (at least in the form of tablets).
      1. yehat
        yehat 9 September 2019 10: 23 New
        0
        of the nearly 8 billion people on earth have a gadget that allows you to use online banking no more than a quarter.
  18. nikvic46
    nikvic46 5 September 2019 17: 40 New
    +1
    By the closing of children's clinics and antenatal clinics, we can say that this is the cost of the new state. We are talking about the health of the younger generation. But this is the main resource of demography. And here again, the question of education. Who will educate so that the life and health of the young people did not go downhill. Only in a healthy society can there be a positive demography.
  19. Artavazdych
    Artavazdych 5 September 2019 22: 13 New
    +2
    Three billion rubles for the whole country? Already funny.
    I gave birth to an eighth child a week ago. And I’ll tell you that the state does not need us at all. I will not go into all the details. I will describe only one case. If you read the famous bloggers - here is the material for you, please take it.
    So, we turned to the governor for help - there are a lot of children, the apartment, although large, is completely impossible for us. The answer came - what problems? take a mortgage! We answer - we are completely unable to take any mortgage. Even the very profitable and mega-preferential that I was offered at work. Even an interest-free loan. Because it is not able to isolate from the budget of the family 30-35 thousand monthly. The answer came quickly - does it mean that you refuse preferential offers? We: no, do not refuse, but we cannot. Again the answer:
    - So, refuse.
    - No, we can’t!
    - Refuse?
    .
    Etc.
    Later:
    - We have allocated a plot of land of 7,5 acres to you, and you have refused it.
    - We did not refuse, but sold it.
    “Then what else do you need?”
    Etc.
    This is short and a little exaggerated. To whom it is interesting - I will give all correspondence. Spread it anywhere. Thanks in advance.