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A photo of an Israeli soldier with a chevron in the form of the flag of Ukraine is discussed on the web

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The network discusses a photograph taken in Israel. She is wearing an Israeli soldier, on whose sleeve a military uniform is visible a patch in the form of the Ukrainian flag with a trident.


A photo of an Israeli soldier with a chevron in the form of the flag of Ukraine is discussed on the web


Initially, there were statements that these were all tricks of people who are fond of working in Photoshop or other graphic editors. However, then an explanation appeared of the person who took this photo. According to some reports, the author is Vlad Telman.

The photographer asked a young man from the Israeli unit where he "came from". If you believe the published information, the soldier answered the question as follows:

There are many repatriates in our unit, because the command allowed the use of chevrons, showing which country the person arrived at the time.

We are talking about the unit that is currently involved in patrolling the territories.

For most armies in the world (even if they have repatriates, former refugees or internally displaced persons), the use of foreign national symbols is uncharacteristic. In Russia, similar options for wearing military uniforms take place in military universities, where foreign students are trained. On one of the sleeves is the Russian state symbolism and symbolism of the type (kind) of troops, on the other (as an option) is the flag of the country from which the cadet arrived in Russia to study. As an example: the Naval Academy of St. Petersburg is a cadet from Saudi Arabia, on whose sleeve the flag of the kingdom is sewn.
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  1. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 4 September 2019 16: 35
    +31
    And it’s not shameful to wear a rag, and even in Israel? negative
    1. marshes
      marshes 4 September 2019 16: 37
      +21
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      And is it not shameful to wear a rag?

      Probably knows the story badly.
      1. krot
        krot 4 September 2019 18: 52
        +14
        And it’s shameful, because in Sumeria, the pan-and-leg coups made a coup and, as a result, Bandera was in power. Which a few decades ago destroyed Jews as well as Russians or Poles .. I’m so allergic to this flag since 2014 of the year when the Donbass began to bomb. And destroy the civilian population!
        1. Andrey Andrey
          Andrey Andrey 4 September 2019 18: 55
          +5
          In Ukraine, the president is a Jew. So the argument about Bandera is at least strange.
          1. Karaul14
            Karaul14 4 September 2019 20: 28
            0
            Quote: Andrey Andrey
            In Ukraine, the president is a Jew. So the argument about Bandera is at least strange.
            They don’t need arguments; they stopped thinking long ago.
          2. Angelica
            Angelica 5 September 2019 05: 06
            +8
            Andrey Andrey
            In Ukraine, the president is a Jew. So the argument about Bandera is at least strange.

            There is only one strangeness. Why has the Jewish president still not dispersed (and did not bring to justice) the last of those who killed Jews during WWII?
            If earlier all over the world these scum were sought out and executed, now they are munching with the fascists in their gums. He crushed the Jewish people.
        2. Slavenin82
          Slavenin82 4 September 2019 21: 05
          +5
          Here, here it starts to vomit me, when I see the blue and yellow color together.
      2. Maz
        Maz 4 September 2019 19: 26
        +10
        hell knows what he is patrolling, but his boots are made of red-brown leather, such slippers are only given to Israeli paratroopers and special equipment. Left-handed, however, and the color of the beret is not visible. but the bronik is clearly visible. But the Jewish eagle is small, it did not come out tall.
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    2. Zeev Zeev
      Zeev Zeev 4 September 2019 16: 47
      -31
      And why should he be shameful? He was born and raised in Ukraine, loves this country, his full right to bear its flag. By the way, it may well be that he is also a citizen of Ukraine. If the same guy went with the Russian flag or with the flag of Kazakhstan, also not a problem. Even with the flag of Iran, if he was born there.
      1. marshes
        marshes 4 September 2019 16: 54
        +1
        Quote: Zeev Zeev
        why should he be shameful? He was born and raised in Ukraine, loves this country, his full right to bear its flag. By the way, it may well be that he is also a citizen of Ukraine. If the same guy went with the Russian flag or with the flag of Kazakhstan, also not a problem. Even with the flag of Iran, if he was born there.

        It is visible and you know the story poorly.
        At the expense of Kazakhstan, Although there was Goloshchekin, we respect the Jews, for skill and knowledge.
        1. Zeev Zeev
          Zeev Zeev 4 September 2019 17: 02
          -18
          I know the story well enough to know how it is perverted for the sake of politics.
          1. Vladimir16
            Vladimir16 4 September 2019 17: 07
            +6
            Quote: Zeev Zeev
            And why should he be shameful?

            Even at sporting events, an athlete will be disqualified for any symbolism that is unofficially approved.
            It is impossible for an Israeli athlete to add the Ukrainian flag to his uniform.

            And then the army is a sovereign country.
            Or not sovereign? wink
            1. Zeev Zeev
              Zeev Zeev 4 September 2019 17: 23
              -5
              I saw people in the army with Russian, American, Ethiopian, Canadian and French symbols. This did not bother anyone even 15 years ago, now even more so.
            2. whack
              whack 5 September 2019 05: 58
              -1
              Come on! Look at our SSO in Syria and elsewhere. Kolovrat, chip and dale, imperial flag, isis hunter flag, USSR, Hezbollah, Fatimids .... there are no chevrons. Sculpted for fun. Especially on tasks. And no one there says anything. Or did I not write the truth? Pagan chevrons, for example, are very fashionable among our specialists, from a distance and you will not understand what is there. It is also fashionable to make "local" stripes
          2. marshes
            marshes 4 September 2019 17: 18
            +12
            Quote: Zeev Zeev
            I know the story well enough to know how it is perverted for the sake of politics.

            Politics? Not any. Uman or Babi Yar. This is what immediately comes to mind.
            1. Zeev Zeev
              Zeev Zeev 4 September 2019 17: 25
              -8
              Or Zmievskaya Beam?
              1. marshes
                marshes 4 September 2019 17: 33
                -5
                Quote: Zeev Zeev
                Or Zmievskaya Beam?

                Well, this is unlikely to be Russia collaborators.
                Although Israeli assistance to Ukraine, I suspect that this is a kind of revenge. laughing
                1. Zeev Zeev
                  Zeev Zeev 4 September 2019 17: 42
                  -4
                  Collaborators in Russia got into the Cossack Stan and two SS divisions. And on ROA in addition. Or have you already forgotten this part of the story?
                  1. Nevsky_ZU
                    Nevsky_ZU 4 September 2019 17: 46
                    +28
                    Quote: Zeev Zeev
                    Collaborators in Russia got into the Cossack Stan and two SS divisions. And on ROA in addition. Or have you already forgotten this part of the story?

                    Are you pretending to be d .... m or really? Or from Ukraine? In our history, they are considered traitors, condemned and official. They are not state heroes, unlike the "heroes" of Ukraine.
                    1. Zeev Zeev
                      Zeev Zeev 4 September 2019 17: 52
                      -11
                      Never lived in Ukraine.
                      And it's not about where the hero is. The point is that the "swamp" generally denies the presence of collaborators in Russia and their participation in the murders of civilians. Who was tried then in 1943 in Krasnodar, I don’t know.
                      1. marshes
                        marshes 4 September 2019 18: 15
                        +7
                        Quote: Zeev Zeev
                        And it's not about where the hero is. The point is that the "swamps" generally denies the presence of collaborators in Russia and their participation in the murders of civilians.

                        Check out our Turkestan Legion, but almost 10 of thousands, did not participate on the eastern front, for it immediately surrendered when the Allies landed in Normandy, and then there was someone who got to Europe, back in 30. And since they replenished, they rarely surrendered , and then they were shot right away, their faces were Asian, something that could be twisted in a cinema.
                        Those who survived do not know their relatives.
                        For that Panfilovtsev, 316,312,314,310,38, 391, 387,106 plus rifle brigades are remembered.
                      2. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 4 September 2019 18: 23
                        -6
                        And then there was the 1st Russian National SS Brigade under the command of Gil-Rodionov, who loved to shoot Belarusian peasants for saying "wrong" (while Gil was a Belarusian by nationality). And as soon as there was a smell of fried, everyone suddenly became anti-fascists and went over to the side of the partisans.
                      3. marshes
                        marshes 4 September 2019 18: 27
                        +5
                        Quote: Zeev Zeev
                        And then there was the 1st Russian National SS Brigade under the command of Gil-Rodionov, who loved to shoot Belarusian peasants for saying "wrong" (while Gil was a Belarusian by nationality). And as soon as there was a smell of fried, everyone suddenly became anti-fascists and went over to the side of the partisans.

                        Was there no Jewish detachment?
                      4. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 4 September 2019 18: 55
                        -2
                        Jews in the SS? Nose did not come out
                      5. marshes
                        marshes 4 September 2019 19: 07
                        0
                        Quote: Zeev Zeev
                        Jews in the SS? Nose did not come out

                        And what the hell is not joking, some could pass under standards.
                        I don’t remember the Israeli series.
                        Like, one SS officer does plastic surgery at the end of the Reich, and becomes a valuable Mossad employee, there is a lyrical and love background, in short, they turned on NTV in 90x.
                      6. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 5 September 2019 06: 15
                        -2
                        The series is generally American. They twisted it on ORT. No need to make an impression of the world from the SERIAL.
                      7. Dart
                        Dart 4 September 2019 21: 01
                        -2
                        Lies. About 10.000 Jews were captured by the Red Army.
                      8. Dart
                        Dart 4 September 2019 22: 45
                        +1
                        What, someone pricks his eyes ...?
                      9. SASHA OLD
                        SASHA OLD 4 September 2019 22: 09
                        +16
                        Quote: Zeev Zeev
                        Jews in the SS? Nose did not come out

                        then you definitely don’t know the story ...
                        moreover:
                        Does the word Mishling say nothing to you?
                        Have you heard about the Jewish police of the "Galicia" district?
                        Adolf Rotfeld, the head of the Lviv Yudendrat - did not hear?

                        And the officer of the German (!) Security Police of the same Lviv Max Goliger - and they did not hear about him?

                        Hitler’s aviation destroyed how many Soviet cities and villages, how many civilians were killed by fragments of air bombs? Many, very different ... We remember this, but we probably forgot that Erhard Milkh, a potential repatriate to Israel, was in charge of these "aces." The Field Marshal, who received the title of Honorary Aryan from Hitler’s hands, didn’t know this?

                        yes, you just "do not know" anything that could tarnish you.
                        we understand that among the Soviet people there were those who eventually fought against us, but for us they are traitors.
                        so "come out with your nose" - everything is in order, read the story more tightly and then declare that you know it ...
                      10. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 5 September 2019 06: 20
                        -10
                        I do know history. And about the "mishlinge", and about Milch, and about the laws of Nuremberg, according to which "mishlinge" could not serve in the Wehrmacht, and about the fact that no "Jewish police of Galicia" existed. And about how the capo was planted in Israel, and about how the Jews killed the Jew Kastner in Israel, and about many other things.
                      11. PalBor
                        PalBor 5 September 2019 13: 19
                        +3
                        Heydrich and his nose forgot
                      12. mko
                        mko 6 September 2019 13: 11
                        0
                        typical bavarian. not a joke
                      13. PalBor
                        PalBor 6 September 2019 18: 30
                        0
                        Yes, maybe, although there were suspicions about his origin from childhood until after death.
                        By the way, he is from Saxony)))
                      14. PalBor
                        PalBor 5 September 2019 13: 03
                        +4
                        Illustration.
                        "The ideal German soldier" ... Werner Goldberg.
                      15. aphenogen.ambrosa
                        aphenogen.ambrosa 5 September 2019 23: 07
                        +2
                        Quote: Zeev Zeev
                        Jews in the SS? Nose did not come out

                        The historical truth is that 150 soldiers were on a living in the Nazi army (Shimon Briman, "Hitler's Jewish Soldiers"). Jews only by father or only by mother and not professing Judaism were not considered Jews in Germany - they were so-called. "Mishlinge".
                        Tens of thousands of these "mishlinges" lived quietly in Nazi Germany. They were called up to serve in the Verkhmat and the Luftwaffe in the most usual manner. In January 1944, the Wehrmacht personnel department compiled a list of 77 high-ranking officers and generals "mixed with the Jewish race or married to Jewish women." Among them are 23 colonels, 5 major generals, 8 lieutenant generals and 2 full army generals. To this list can be added another 60 names of senior officers and generals of the Wehrmacht, aviation and navy, including 2 field marshals. It is believed that in the entire top of the Third Reich, only Goering had no admixtures of Jewish blood. Hundreds of "mishlinges" were awarded Iron Crosses for bravery. 20 soldiers and officers of Jewish origin were awarded the highest military award of the Third Reich - the Knight's Cross. Among the Jews who held a high position in Nazi Germany, the first place, of course, belongs to Field Marshal Edward Milch - the second man in the Luftwaffe after Hermann Goering. When agitated Gestapo men rushed to "fat Herman" with "crime" against his deputy, the Reichs-marshal yelled at them and uttered a phrase that became winged: "I decide who is considered a Jew!" Milch was promptly promoted to "honorary Aryan". The process of "arianization" was sometimes extremely fast. The Gestapo, who had heard that Fraulein Kunde, the cook sent to the Fuehrer by the Romanian Marshal Antonescu, was Jewish, immediately reported this to the "chief." Not at all embarrassed, Hitler answered them: "So what? Why bother me over trifles? Can't you yourself figure out what to do? Arianize her!" (Alan Abrams. "Special Appeal." New Jersey, 1985).
                      16. kapitan92
                        kapitan92 4 September 2019 23: 08
                        +9
                        Quote: Zeev Zeev
                        And then there was the 1st Russian National SS Brigade under the command of Gil-Rodionov, who loved to shoot Belarusian peasants for saying "wrong"

                        In vain you raise this topic!
                        The historical truth is that 150 soldiers were on a living in the Nazi army (Shimon Briman, "Hitler's Jewish Soldiers"). Jews only by father or only by mother and not professing Judaism were not considered Jews in Germany - they were so-called. "Mishlinge".
                        Tens of thousands of these "mishlinges" lived quietly in Nazi Germany. They were called up to serve in the Verkhmat and the Luftwaffe in the most usual manner. In January 1944, the Wehrmacht personnel department compiled a list of 77 high-ranking officers and generals "mixed with the Jewish race or married to Jewish women." Among them are 23 colonels, 5 major generals, 8 lieutenant generals and 2 full army generals. To this list can be added another 60 names of senior officers and generals of the Wehrmacht, aviation and navy, including 2 field marshals. It is believed that in the entire top of the Third Reich, only Goering had no admixtures of Jewish blood. Hundreds of "mishlinges" were awarded Iron Crosses for bravery. 20 soldiers and officers of Jewish origin were awarded the highest military award of the Third Reich - the Knight's Cross.
                        Can you recall the Jews in the service of the Gestapo !?
                        One of the most famous Zionist agents of the Gestapo was the Jewish merchant Rudolph (Rare) Israel Katzner (Kastner) - one of the leaders of Hungarian Jews. During the war, Katzner accompanied the SS officer more than once, Himmler's confidant, Kurt Becher, during his visits to the concentration camps.

                        According to the testimony of one of the highest SS officers, Karl Dam, the Nazis formed the Jewish police from the Zionists to maintain order in the Teriseen concentration camp in Czechoslovakia. Karl Dam added that thanks to the help of Zionist agents, between 1941 and 1945, they were able to place more than 400.000 Jews in Czechoslovakia in ghettos and forced labor camps.

                        Remind you what it is?
                        Learn the mat. part, colleague! And don’t look in a stranger’s eye! [B] [/ b]
                      17. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 5 September 2019 06: 21
                        -5
                        We look at the fate of Kastner.
                      18. krot
                        krot 4 September 2019 18: 59
                        +12
                        And it's not about where the hero is.

                        Just about that and the speech! Traitors were in any country, in Israel, in Russia or in the USA! And only among the Sumerians the SS division is a hero! And we were shot. Blueway now from the explanations of the ignorant ..
                    2. igor67
                      igor67 5 September 2019 12: 23
                      0
                      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
                      Quote: Zeev Zeev
                      Collaborators in Russia got into the Cossack Stan and two SS divisions. And on ROA in addition. Or have you already forgotten this part of the story?

                      Are you pretending to be d .... m or really? Or from Ukraine? In our history, they are considered traitors, condemned and official. They are not state heroes, unlike the "heroes" of Ukraine.

                      Well, I'm from Ukraine, we have a lot of cars driving with Ukrainian symbols, I also had the coat of arms of Ukraine on the car, there are very few Russian flags,
                  2. marshes
                    marshes 4 September 2019 17: 48
                    +8
                    [
                    Quote: Zeev Zeev
                    Collaborators in Russia got into the Cossack Stan and two SS divisions. And on ROA in addition. Or have you already forgotten this part of the story?

                    Well this is their story, almost everyone was convicted.
                    1. Antares
                      Antares 4 September 2019 21: 33
                      -9
                      Quote: marshes
                      Well this is their story, almost everyone was convicted.

                      during the USSR, all traitors to the motherland were first condemned.
                      but it’s not the USSR erected.

                      1. garrett
                        garrett 5 September 2019 11: 25
                        0
                        but it’s not the USSR erected.

                        Of course not...
                        the truth is an old picture ... now on this stone there is no skin and red
                      2. Okolotochny
                        Okolotochny 5 September 2019 13: 15
                        +1
                        And not Russia. And he "erected" one stubborn Cossack girl in his yard. Are there streets named after Bandera and Shukhevych in Ukraine? Who renamed them? Ekaterina, in your case, chewing is better than talking. The whole history of Ukraine is a history of lies and betrayal.
                  3. gurzuf
                    gurzuf 4 September 2019 18: 44
                    +7
                    We not only remember, but also condemn and do not justify all the more. And there are no torchlight processions of veterans of these collaborators in Russia.
                  4. Okolotochny
                    Okolotochny 5 September 2019 13: 10
                    +2
                    We don’t call them streets. And Atalef admired Lviv, walking along Bender Avenue.
          3. Serg koma
            Serg koma 5 September 2019 14: 34
            +1
            Quote: Zeev Zeev
            I am enough I know the story well, to know how it is perverted for the sake of politics.

            To read - " I know the story well, to know how to distort it" negative
        2. Lopatov
          Lopatov 4 September 2019 17: 38
          +20
          Just the Israelis love the Nazis, what is there to hide. A bunch of examples. Lebanese phalangists, Georgians, now ukronatsi. They even teach them how to ride, so that they learn how to kill Russians better.
          1. Personalrec
            Personalrec 4 September 2019 18: 48
            +1
            Yeah, the Nazis with a Jewish president and a prime minister. Oh, this Nazism is a new wave)
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 4 September 2019 20: 04
              +14
              Quote: PersonalRec
              Yeah, the Nazis with a Jewish president and a prime minister. Oh, this Nazism is a new wave)

              It happens.
              It even happens that a Jew and an Israeli citizen finances the creation of a clearly Nazi formation. With its symbol the emblem of the SS division "Das Reich"

              I didn’t just write about the love of Israelis for the Nazis. It's hard not to notice
              1. Bad thing
                Bad thing 4 September 2019 20: 18
                +5
                But I won’t be surprised if Adik Schicklgruber eventually turns out to be a Jew too.
                1. lucul
                  lucul 4 September 2019 22: 32
                  +5
                  But I won’t be surprised if Adik Schicklgruber eventually turns out to be a Jew too.

                  So he has a surname - a shekel collector ....
                2. Fast_mutant
                  Fast_mutant 5 September 2019 15: 56
                  0
                  Quote: Bad
                  But I won’t be surprised if Adik Schicklgruber ...


                  With all due respect...
                  Once it is a knowledge of history and historical truth.
                  Not in defense of the character, but his father changed his last name long before the birth of his son. So, legally, he was not a "schickle" for a minute. Historical fact, if that. I found out myself not so long ago, I confess.

                  Here is from "Vicky": "Father - Alois Hitler (1837-1903). Mother - Clara Hitler (1860-1907), née Pölzl. Alois, being illegitimate, until 1876 bore the surname of his mother Maria Anna Schicklgruber (German Schicklgruber) . "
                  And in 1889, you know who was born.
                  So there’s a gap of 13 years.
      2. Honest Citizen
        Honest Citizen 4 September 2019 17: 02
        +2
        He was born and raised in Ukraine, loves this country, his full right to bear its flag.

        Elementary Watson! (with)
        Let him then go to the nenka, and there he wears.
        If he is a citizen of Israel, and even in the service, then you must agree, it’s strange to wear the flag of another state on the chevron.
        If he is a "student", then for God's sake ...
        1. Zeev Zeev
          Zeev Zeev 4 September 2019 17: 28
          -7
          What does the "student" have to do with it? Volunteers from other countries are quite serving in the IDF. Most often from the USA, but I even saw a Venezuelan.
          1. Honest Citizen
            Honest Citizen 4 September 2019 17: 34
            +10
            It reminds a joke about a black man reading a Jewish newspaper in the subway ...
        2. Normal ok
          Normal ok 4 September 2019 19: 39
          -6
          Quote: Honest Citizen
          He was born and raised in Ukraine, loves this country, his full right to bear its flag.

          Elementary Watson! (with)
          Let him then go to the nenka, and there he wears.
          If he is a citizen of Israel, and even in the service, then you must agree, it’s strange to wear the flag of another state on the chevron.
          If he is a "student", then for God's sake ...

          If Israel allows it, then what is your concern? This is their internal affair.
          1. Antares
            Antares 4 September 2019 21: 38
            -8
            Quote: Normal ok
            If Israel allows it, then what is your concern? This is their internal affair.

            what are you? This is Ukraine. And here are all the specialists in it. laughing
            Know that it is "wrong"! And then all the clichés of an information war ...
            By the way, for any Israelis for Ukraine (even neutral posts) dozens are slapping.
            It's funny that the pro-Israel posts are also slapping. Even for pro-Russian, but critical, similarly.
            It is difficult to say what opinion is needed, but most likely approving ..
            By the way, I hasten to remind you that your favorite expression / argument is usually that you are not a citizen of the Russian Federation to judge it. But there was no talk for other countries tongue
            Russians know better what is in Ukraine and what should be in Israel!
            So execute him for sure, they will like it, you know how many articles come out ... they will still praise.
      3. Nevsky_ZU
        Nevsky_ZU 4 September 2019 17: 05
        +11
        Quote: Zeev Zeev
        And why should he be shameful? He was born and raised in Ukraine, loves this country, his full right to bear its flag. By the way, it may well be that he is also a citizen of Ukraine. If the same guy went with the Russian flag or with the flag of Kazakhstan, also not a problem. Even with the flag of Iran, if he was born there.

        Perhaps because when the territory-state of Ukraine, twice came out of the influence of Moscow, and it twice slaughtered the Jews? Learn the history, the pogroms of the Jews from Petliura. Not only Bandera excelled. Today it came out the third time ....
        1. Zeev Zeev
          Zeev Zeev 4 September 2019 17: 30
          -8
          And the pogroms of the Jews from the First Cavalry Army of Budyonny? And the massacre of the Jews in Vitebsk? Polotsk? Mstislavia?
          1. Nevsky_ZU
            Nevsky_ZU 4 September 2019 17: 40
            +10
            Quote: Zeev Zeev
            And the pogroms of the Jews from the First Cavalry Army of Budyonny? And the massacre of the Jews in Vitebsk? Polotsk? Mstislavia?

            If there were such facts, then these are crimes of individual units and on the conscience of commanders. Not in the Russian Empire, not in the USSR there was no purposeful policy of extermination of Jews. In contrast to the state policy of the Ukrainian Directory, headed by Petlyura and the official policy of the OUN UPA, which in July 1941 in Lviv proclaimed independence by killing the Jewish population of Lviv.
            LEARN HISTORY
            1. Zeev Zeev
              Zeev Zeev 4 September 2019 18: 45
              -13
              The official policy of the Russian Empire forbade the residence of Jews within the Russian Empire until the 1791 year. And from 1791 to 1917, Jews were forbidden to live outside the former Commonwealth, with the exception of people with higher education, merchants of the first guild, artisans, and recruits who had served. Moreover, Jews were recruited much more than Christians, taken from 13 years, and their service (25 years) was counted only from 18 years. And about earlier times, when Ivan the Terrible ordered all Jews of Polotsk to be drowned in the Dvina, or when, under Alexei Mikhailovich, the Russian troops, along with the Cossacks, destroyed the entire Jewish population of present-day Belarus, we modestly keep silent.
              1. Volodin
                Volodin 4 September 2019 18: 57
                +9
                Quote: Zeev Zeev
                And about earlier times, when Ivan the Terrible ordered all Jews of Polotsk to be drowned in the Dvina, or when, under Alexei Mikhailovich, Russian troops, along with the Cossacks, destroyed the entire Jewish population of present Belarus we modestly silent.

                "We are Nikolai the Second". All clear...
                You should have watched the pseudo-historical films "BBC" less, where Ivan the Terrible "executed 10 million people" in Moscow, when there were hardly so many in all of Russia ...
                1. Zeev Zeev
                  Zeev Zeev 4 September 2019 19: 02
                  -17
                  I advise you to teach the history of your country.
                  1. Volodin
                    Volodin 4 September 2019 19: 10
                    +17
                    Advise those who fled from their country and found another. I don’t have to give advice.
              2. lucul
                lucul 4 September 2019 20: 29
                +4
                And from 1791 to 1917, Jews were forbidden to live outside the former Commonwealth

                And about earlier times, when Ivan the Terrible ordered all Jews of Polotsk to be drowned in the Dvina, or when, under Alexei Mikhailovich, the Russian troops, along with the Cossacks, destroyed the entire Jewish population of present-day Belarus, we modestly keep silent.

                You tell these tales to grandmothers at the entrance ....
                At 1941, in Minsk alone, the number of Jews was more than 50% of the population of the city. In the western regions of Belarus, in some cities, the proportion of Jews exceeded 70% of the total population.
                Needless to say, from 1917 to 1941, as you say, that is, in twenty years, Jews would never have been able to increase their numbers.
            2. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 4 September 2019 22: 32
              -5
              Quote: Nevsky_ZU
              not in the USSR there was a purposeful policy of extermination of Jews.

              In 1970, the former head of the Soviet government, a member of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU, Nikolai Aleksandrovich Bulganinin said in an interview that indeed, at the beginning of the 1953, deportation of Jews from Moscow and from other cities was being prepared.
              At the end of February, he then held the post of Deputy Minister of Defense, called Stalin and ordered the train to be transported to Moscow, Leningrad, Kiev, Minsk, Stalingrad, Sverdlovsk, and other large industrial centers of the country for the deportation of the Jewish population.
              1. Okolotochny
                Okolotochny 5 September 2019 13: 18
                +6
                In 1970, the former head of the Soviet government, a member of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU, Nikolai Aleksandrovich Bulganinin said in an interview,

                This is called OBS information.
                1. Vitaly gusin
                  Vitaly gusin 5 September 2019 14: 46
                  -7
                  Quote: Okolotochny
                  This is called OBS information.

                  And what is it called?




                  If you do not know then I will write
                  Anti-Semitism at the state level!
                  1. Okolotochny
                    Okolotochny 5 September 2019 17: 36
                    +6
                    Once touched upon the national question, then:
                    1. What is the date? 20.01.1953/XNUMX/XNUMX Who was the ruler? Stalin-Dzhugashvili, "repressive apparatus" leader Beria. Claims against Georgia. But no. You helped them in the aggression against South Ossetia and the Russian peacekeepers.
                    2.
                    Anti-Semitism at the state level!
                    What is it like? That is, were there any orders, decrees, orders? Provide then. And so - this is purely Israeli or OBS.
                    1. Vitaly gusin
                      Vitaly gusin 6 September 2019 13: 46
                      -3
                      Quote: Okolotochny
                      Provide then.

                      Your not knowing the truth and cons will not change the story
                      Published in the newspaper Pravda No. 13 (12581) and other central newspapers on January 13, 1953.
                      PEST DOCTOR GROUP ARREST
                      “Some time ago, the state security authorities discovered a terrorist group of doctors, who aimed to reduce the lives of active leaders of the Soviet Union by means of harmful treatment.
                      Among the participants in this terrorist group were: Professor M. Vovsi, general practitioner; Professor Vinogradov V.N., general practitioner; Professor Kogan M. B., general practitioner; Professor Kogan B. B., general practitioner; Professor Egorov P. I., general practitioner; Professor A. Feldman, otolaryngologist; Professor Etinger J. G., general practitioner; Professor A. Greenstein, neuropathologist; Mayorov G.I., general practitioner.
                      Most of the members of the terrorist group (Vovsi M. S., Kogan B. B., Feldman A. I., Grinshtein A. M., Etinger Y. G. and others) were associated with the international Jewish bourgeois-nationalist organization “Joint”, created by American intelligence supposedly to provide material assistance to Jews in other countries. In fact, this organization carries out extensive espionage, terrorist and other subversive activities under the leadership of American intelligence in a number of countries, including the Soviet Union. The arrested Vovsi told the investigation that he received the directive “on the extermination of leading Soviet personnel” from the United States from the Joint organization through a doctor in Moscow Shimeliovich and a well-known Jewish bourgeois nationalist Mikhoels.
                      Other members of the terrorist group (Vinogradov V.N., Kogan M.B., Egorov P.I.) turned out to be long-standing agents of British intelligence.
                      The investigation will be completed shortly. "
                      (TASS)
                      After Stalin's death
                      Document No. 176

                      L.P. Beria - to the Presidium of the Central Committee of the CPSU on the rehabilitation of those arrested in the "case of pest doctors"
                      01.04.1953
                      "The decision of the special investigative commission with a detailed statement of the results of the verification of the materials of the investigation in this case is attached.
                      The USSR Ministry of the Interior considers it necessary:
                      1) to fully rehabilitate all the doctors and members of their families brought to justice and illegally arrested and immediately release them from custody;
                      2) to prosecute former employees of the Ministry of State Security of the USSR, who were especially sophisticated in fabricating this provocative case and in flagrant perversions of Soviet laws;
                      3) publish a special message in print;
                      4) to consider the responsibility of the former Minister of State Security of the USSR, Comrade S. IGNATIEV
                      The USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs has taken measures to exclude the possibility of repeating similar distortions of Soviet laws in the work of the bodies of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
                      L. BERIA
                      AP RF. F.Z. Op. 58. D. 423. L. 5-7. Copy"
                      And THE BEST DOCUMENT, MILLION JEWS LEAVED THE USSR.
                      PLEASE DO NOT ANSWER.
                      LEARN HISTORY.
                      1. Okolotochny
                        Okolotochny 6 September 2019 17: 28
                        +2
                        You haven't answered completely. Your "Knowledge" of history is pulling out facts that are beneficial only to your point of view. I do not know the history of Jewry, I am interested in the history of my country, my own, and not the one into which they flooded for 40 varieties of sausage. Once again - Resolutions, orders, decrees on deliberate national ... call it what you want. Bring them in? Do you have them? There is none of them. Second, I repeat to you as a stoned nationalist - Stalin and Beria are Georgian nationalities. All the claims of Georgia, which you helped to upgrade the tanks from which our citizens and soldiers were killed. After Stalin, the country was ruled by 3 natives of Ukraine (3 Karl!). If you think that after Stalin the Jews were belittled - all the claims are against the state of Ukraine, and for which you, on the RUSSIAN RESOURCE, are sowing your nationalist ideas.
                      2. Okolotochny
                        Okolotochny 6 September 2019 17: 30
                        +2
                        And THE BEST DOCUMENT, MILLION JEWS LEAVED THE USSR. Yes, I’m equally equal to those who dumped for more fat and rich soup.
                      3. Okolotochny
                        Okolotochny 6 September 2019 17: 31
                        +2
                        https://regnum.ru/news/2708411.html?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com%2F%3Ffrom%3Dspecial&utm_source=YandexZenSpecial
                        Read and educate yourself, Bandera lawyer. Ugh.
                  2. cradle
                    cradle 6 September 2019 08: 41
                    0
                    hde in the truth articles about the Jews? Or again, the investigating authorities are to blame for the fact that the Jews went to doctors? Not to stokers, turner, but to doctors ... Probably so as not to overwork much? And then: Guard, the Jews are being persecuted. Do not make me laugh.
              2. cradle
                cradle 6 September 2019 08: 36
                0
                - what a hot smell ... and only death prevented the Teran from tormenting the unfortunate yavrerey !!! laughing
          2. lucul
            lucul 4 September 2019 17: 47
            +14
            And the pogroms of the Jews from the First Cavalry Army of Budyonny?

            So sho - the Jews of the First Horse Army smashed other Jews? )))
            Antique Jewish Fun?
            1. Zeev Zeev
              Zeev Zeev 4 September 2019 18: 26
              -7
              There were few Jews in the First Horse. And then for the most part the commissars at headquarters.
              1. lucul
                lucul 4 September 2019 18: 30
                +7
                There were few Jews in the First Horse. And then for the most part the commissars at headquarters.

                This was among the rank and file units, and among the leadership - Jews under 90%.
                And the soldiers themselves, without the consent of the leadership, will not arrange pogroms - discipline after all.
                Therefore - on their part, the usual practice of cutting off the dry branches of Israel (in their opinion).
                1. Zeev Zeev
                  Zeev Zeev 4 September 2019 18: 51
                  -12
                  There were no Jews among the leadership at all. Medical staff, commissars (and an absolutely minority, commissars selected more or less close to the contingent). And we will keep silent about discipline in the Red Army in the Civil Army, it is well shown in the 1934 film "Chapaev".
                  1. Okolotochny
                    Okolotochny 6 September 2019 09: 40
                    +2
                    A colleague, I read one piece of news and I understood the love of Jews for Little Russians - You have the same principle - Ukraine is not Russia - We are not Soviet, we are Jews. So, the news is for you and your compatriots, for a snack. After that, how are you feeling?
                    https://regnum.ru/news/2708411.html?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com%2F%3Ffrom%3Dspecial&utm_source=YandexZenSpecial
                    The chief rabbi puts a memorial cross at the Jewish cemetery of Bandera. Oh well. They were in Berlin, but Tel Aviv has not yet. We can visit such rabbis.
                2. rruvim
                  rruvim 4 September 2019 21: 40
                  +4
                  There were no Jews at all in the "second horse". Why Mironov was declared an anti-Semite.
              2. Okolotochny
                Okolotochny 5 September 2019 13: 20
                +6
                And who commanded the entire revolutionary army? Trotsky. And who was the initiator of the eradication of the Cossacks in Russia? Sverdlov. Can you tell me what their nationality was?
            2. Normal ok
              Normal ok 4 September 2019 19: 49
              -2
              There is an old joke on this subject. More Soviet.
              I found out like Budyonny that someone wrote a march of his name. And he says to the orderly: find a man. Searched - found. Lead to Budyonny. It turned out to be a Jew from an orchestra. Budyonny sits at the table, in front of him a quarter of moonshine and a snack. Sit down says. The Jew sat down. Pause. Budyonny is silent because the tongue-tied one, the Jew is silent because he is afraid. Then Budyonny finds a way out - pours. We drank it. Pause. Pours, drank. So times 3-4. Then Budyonny led to a conversation, said: if you want, I’ll tell a story. Jew: of course I want. Budyonny: somehow we burst into a Jewish town, drafts bare ... And who are you by the way nationality? Jew: Jew. Budyonny thought and said: I’ll tell you another story.
              1. rruvim
                rruvim 4 September 2019 21: 43
                +2
                Not so it was !!!
                I found out like Budyonny that someone wrote a march of his name. And he says to the orderly: find a man. Searched - found. Lead to Budyonny. It turned out to be a Jew from an orchestra. Budyonny sits at the table, in front of him a quarter of moonshine and a snack. Sit down says. The Jew sat down. Pause. Budyonny is silent because the tongue-tied one, the Jew is silent because he is afraid. Then Budyonny finds a way out - pours. We drank it. Pause. Pours, drank. So times 3-4. Then Budyonny led to a conversation, said: if you want, I’ll tell a story. Jew: of course I want. Budyonny: somehow we burst into a Jewish town, drafts bare ... And who are you by the way nationality? Jew: I am a Bolshevik. Budyonny thought and said: I’ll tell you another story.
          3. aphenogen.ambrosa
            aphenogen.ambrosa 5 September 2019 23: 28
            0
            Quote: Zeev Zeev
            And the pogroms of the Jews from the First Cavalry Army of Budyonny? And the massacre of the Jews in Vitebsk? Polotsk? Mstislavia?
            The writer Grigory Klimov (USA) - based on the unclassified and generally accessible state archives of the USSR - gives lists of the Soviet government in 1917-1921, which are easy to verify:

            Council of People's Commissars - 77,2% of Jews,

            Military Commissariat - 76,7%,
            People's Commissariat of Foreign Affairs - 81,2%,
            Narcomfin - 80%,
            People's Commissariat - 95%,
            Narcompros - 79,2%,
            People's Commissariat of Social Security - 100%,
            People's Commissariat of Labor - 87,5%,
            Provincial commissars - 91%,
            Journalists - 100%.
        2. Antares
          Antares 4 September 2019 21: 59
          -4
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          Learn history, pogroms of Jews from Petlyura

          the toughest terror of Jews in Ukraine was in the era of the War of Independence. It was easier to be a Pole than a Jew. They did not even take a ransom for them. Destroyed.
          Hatred was based on the fact that they saw the main evil in them (they were mainly clerks and managers). So illiterate peasants destroyed those who were considered guilty in their troubles. Without pity.
          If there were such facts, then these are crimes of individual units and on the conscience of commanders. Not in the Russian Empire, not in the USSR there was no purposeful policy of extermination of Jews. In contrast to the state policy of the Ukrainian Directory, headed by Petlyura and the official policy of the OUN UPA, which in July 1941 in Lviv proclaimed independence by killing the Jewish population of Lviv.
          LEARN HISTORY

          we know, they swam, if there was nothing for us, but in Ukraine ...
          Well, for example
          in 1113 year in Kiev there was a major Jewish pogrom
          (Then there was no Ukraine, so we will relate it to Russia?)
          The first known pogrom of Jews in the Russian Empire occurred in the 1821 year in Odessa (Ukraine still is not). Jews were often celebrated in my city. But there are many of them and they are rich.
          In 1895, a brutal pogrom took place in Kutaisi.
          6 — 7 April 1903 years, during the days of Orthodox Easter, there was a major pogrom in Chisinau
          After the publication of the Tsarist manifesto of 17 on October 1905, the largest Jewish pogroms in the history of tsarist Russia swept the southern and southwestern provinces of the Pale of Settlement. According to the data of Doctor of Historical Sciences S. A. Stepanov, cited by Dina Amanzholova, in October 1905 of the year, up to 690 pogroms occurred in 102 settlements. The victims were of different ethnicities, but most were Jews.
          During the October pogroms of 1905, more than 800 Jews were killed (half of them are in my city)
          Describing the pogroms from the year 1880 until the revolution, historians indicate that they were accompanied by support from the authorities and the police, or were ignored by them
          According to the historian Gennady Kostyrchenko, during the Civil War in Russia there were 1236 cases of anti-Jewish protests, 887 of which were attributed to pogroms - to actions accompanied by violence on a massive scale. Of these, 493 shares (40%) were committed by the Petliurists, 307 (25%) - by the green, 213 (17%) - by the White Guards and 106 (8,5%) - by the Red
          And only in the USSR (not counting the period of the Second World War) more or less calmly passed.
          And reading the books (Stepanov Port Arthur) I recall the statement of the Russian commander - "It's all because of the Jews", shaking the knife .. Just in the spirit of pogroms .. very clearly emphasized mood.
          In general, where the density of Jews is greater, the more often pogroms and terror occurred. Say in the territory of modern Ukraine and Belarus there were more Jews than in the territory of modern Russia. Accordingly, there are much more cases in the territory of modern Ukraine. But if Ukraine never happened, then all this happened in Russia. tongue
          1. not main
            not main 4 September 2019 22: 22
            +4
            That's purely Jewish! I’ll turn inside out, but I will prove something that wasn’t!
          2. Nevsky_ZU
            Nevsky_ZU 5 September 2019 04: 00
            +2
            Quote: Antares
            Quote: Nevsky_ZU
            Learn history, pogroms of Jews from Petlyura

            the toughest terror of Jews in Ukraine was in the era of the War of Independence. It was easier to be a Pole than a Jew. They did not even take a ransom for them. Destroyed.
            Hatred was based on the fact that they saw the main evil in them (they were mainly clerks and managers). So illiterate peasants destroyed those who were considered guilty in their troubles. Without pity.
            If there were such facts, then these are crimes of individual units and on the conscience of commanders. Not in the Russian Empire, not in the USSR there was no purposeful policy of extermination of Jews. In contrast to the state policy of the Ukrainian Directory, headed by Petlyura and the official policy of the OUN UPA, which in July 1941 in Lviv proclaimed independence by killing the Jewish population of Lviv.
            LEARN HISTORY

            we know, they swam, if there was nothing for us, but in Ukraine ...
            Well, for example
            in 1113 year in Kiev there was a major Jewish pogrom
            (Then there was no Ukraine, so we will relate it to Russia?)
            The first known pogrom of Jews in the Russian Empire occurred in the 1821 year in Odessa (Ukraine still is not). Jews were often celebrated in my city. But there are many of them and they are rich.
            In 1895, a brutal pogrom took place in Kutaisi.
            6 — 7 April 1903 years, during the days of Orthodox Easter, there was a major pogrom in Chisinau
            After the publication of the Tsarist manifesto of 17 on October 1905, the largest Jewish pogroms in the history of tsarist Russia swept the southern and southwestern provinces of the Pale of Settlement. According to the data of Doctor of Historical Sciences S. A. Stepanov, cited by Dina Amanzholova, in October 1905 of the year, up to 690 pogroms occurred in 102 settlements. The victims were of different ethnicities, but most were Jews.
            During the October pogroms of 1905, more than 800 Jews were killed (half of them are in my city)
            Describing the pogroms from the year 1880 until the revolution, historians indicate that they were accompanied by support from the authorities and the police, or were ignored by them
            According to the historian Gennady Kostyrchenko, during the Civil War in Russia there were 1236 cases of anti-Jewish protests, 887 of which were attributed to pogroms - to actions accompanied by violence on a massive scale. Of these, 493 shares (40%) were committed by the Petliurists, 307 (25%) - by the green, 213 (17%) - by the White Guards and 106 (8,5%) - by the Red
            And only in the USSR (not counting the period of the Second World War) more or less calmly passed.
            And reading the books (Stepanov Port Arthur) I recall the statement of the Russian commander - "It's all because of the Jews", shaking the knife .. Just in the spirit of pogroms .. very clearly emphasized mood.
            In general, where the density of Jews is greater, the more often pogroms and terror occurred. Say in the territory of modern Ukraine and Belarus there were more Jews than in the territory of modern Russia. Accordingly, there are much more cases in the territory of modern Ukraine. But if Ukraine never happened, then all this happened in Russia. tongue

            But this is not according to the Tsar’s decree and order? These are popular social riots. But Petlyura, as the commander in chief of the Directory, gave the order. So the OUN in Lviv 1941 all according to Ukrainian integral nationalism.
          3. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 5 September 2019 13: 21
            +7
            So answer - in Ukraine there are streets of Bandera and Shukhevych and who renamed them?
            1. Leopold
              Leopold 5 September 2019 19: 40
              +4
              Alex, hi do not get excited. They chose their own government, now they are "reaping". I'd rather not say anything about my answer to your question, you can't say that on the site.
              1. Okolotochny
                Okolotochny 5 September 2019 19: 50
                +3
                Sergey, they’ve got it already. After all, look - they just began to write jokes on the news. The Israelis and Ukrainians are excited how? When he suggested that the comrades of the Jews (since they love Ukraine so much) give them money and forgive the debt, they immediately went into dull silence. It means that under the USSR and Russia it was possible to sit on the hump of inhabitants. So also spit on top. Now both Jews and ho .... former Little Russians are to blame for Russia.
                1. Leopold
                  Leopold 5 September 2019 20: 23
                  +5
                  On the topic - I agree. Site rules prohibit speaking and acting in good faith.
                2. Leopold
                  Leopold 5 September 2019 20: 28
                  +4
                  And he did not immediately realize, for me, so conscience (if it exists) is so above the law, although not always in harmony with him.
          4. cradle
            cradle 6 September 2019 08: 48
            -1
            Well kada profitable to emphasize the barbarism of this territory, then there was no Ukraine. Cada barbarism of the rest of Russia, then it is Ukraine ... laughing
      4. mark2
        mark2 4 September 2019 17: 47
        +8
        It is from this love that he serves in the country of Israel?
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      5. Svarog
        Svarog 4 September 2019 19: 21
        0
        Quote: Zeev Zeev
        He was born and raised in Ukraine, loves this country, his full right to bear its flag.

        I just can’t understand how you can love your country and still live and fight for another? How can you love your country and invest money in the economy of another country? Strange love, don’t you? It seems to me that if you love the Motherland, then you live in the Homeland and try to do everything possible to make life in your country better than anywhere else ... this is a manifestation of love .. Everything else can be called nostalgia, but not love .. hi
        1. Antares
          Antares 4 September 2019 22: 04
          -5
          Quote: Svarog
          I just can’t understand how you can love your country and still live and fight for another?

          how many Frenchmen brought glory to Russian weapons and made for RI? They loved France and returned to it.
          Paul Jones? Also.
          Service somewhere in the Foreign Legion ..
          Volunteer?
          Love for the motherland is in the heart. But you do not need you apart from love to live everywhere, work only for your Beloved country, fight only for it, spend money only on it
          This is not a marriage with the motherland. And not even a contract. This is unselfish love. Neither are you homeland, not you homeland. Only love (emotions)
          Attempts to use our animal instincts (such as imprinting) for the purposes of politics or officials, I consider criminal on the part of states.
        2. Zeev Zeev
          Zeev Zeev 5 September 2019 13: 31
          -2
          Is it possible to love two women at the same time?
      6. Radikal
        Radikal 4 September 2019 20: 21
        +2
        With these flags there are generally only paradoxes, both with their - Petliur, and with the flag of the Russian Federation .... sad
      7. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 4 September 2019 20: 24
        +3
        Quote: Zeev Zeev
        And why should he be shameful? He was born and raised in Ukraine, loves this country, his full right to bear its flag.

        Something you bring in Israel start, it is not clear where to go.
      8. whack
        whack 5 September 2019 05: 51
        +1
        Look how many minuses! These are the minus players who will never understand that everyone has their own homeland. And each Motherland is loved in its own way. Well, he was born in Russia, lucky, why wax others. From the height of my experience, I have always respected the militias who openly said: "I am Ukrainian and I do not want a junta in power on my land (Donbass)." He was born in Ukraine 20 years earlier than the events of 14, this is his country, his flag and he has his own attitude to this. Yes, I hate this flag for obvious reasons, but I respect those who share the Bandera scum and the Ukrainians!
      9. Serg koma
        Serg koma 5 September 2019 14: 27
        0
        Quote: Zeev Zeev
        By the way, it may well be that he is also a citizen of Ukraine

        Then in general - "no Motherland, no Flag" at the repatriate wassat
        And you for educational program
        Regulations, prohibiting dual citizenship, This is:
        The fourth article of the Constitution of Ukraine.
        The nineteenth and second articles of the law "On Citizenship".
        Upon voluntarily obtaining foreign citizenship, an individual can no longer be a citizen of Ukraine. Punishment can only be applied to adult citizens. Accordingly, having citizenship of two countries at the same time is strictly prohibited.

        At the initiative of the President of Ukraine, amendments were made to the Law on Citizenship of Ukraine (Law No. 6175), which completely suppressed the existence of a second citizenship. The document includes two main points:
        Having a second citizenship in Ukraine is not possible. Unified citizenship is considered Ukrainian.
        Upon receipt of documents of another state, an individual remains a citizen of Ukraine.
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    4. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 4 September 2019 17: 01
      +7
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      And it’s not shameful to wear a rag, and even in Israel? negative

      Under this flag Petliura arranged a pogrom of Jews in Kiev. Then like yellow was at the top, and blue at the bottom. But in any case, this is Ukraine, and he has a hero in history like Bandera.
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 4 September 2019 17: 14
        +4
        That's it. Wearing this under flag of a frankly Nazi state in the Jewish state is somehow cynical.
        1. shahor
          shahor 4 September 2019 17: 36
          +5
          Let's not get into the affairs of a foreign country. Let Israeli citizens wear what they want at home. We behave like that at home? I apologize for the edifying tone.
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 4 September 2019 19: 01
            -1
            Why not fit in? So that later they do not drive, they say Russia is to blame for this?
            But they can turn everything upside down.
            1. shahor
              shahor 5 September 2019 11: 52
              -1
              Quote: Lord of the Sith
              Why not fit in? So that later they do not drive, they say Russia is to blame for this?

              And then do not be offended when they get into you.
      2. 777-3-59-97
        777-3-59-97 4 September 2019 17: 20
        -7
        Under this flag Petliura arranged a pogrom of Jews in Kiev

        And under the Russian flag, the Vlasovites killed civilians and Soviet soldiers. And then?
        1. Theodore
          Theodore 4 September 2019 17: 25
          +9
          And the Vlasovites "gherroi" !? Maybe glory to them?
          1. rruvim
            rruvim 4 September 2019 23: 16
            -1
            How would you behave? 1942 or 43? You were taken prisoner. You are from the village (3 classes of education), you have not even seen a tractor live, only horses. Only after the call did they see cars, tanks, and other achievements of mankind for the destruction of their own kind. In captivity, you were not fed, and almost never watered. And then a Soviet general appears (about whom the commissar told you that he is a hero in Stalin's eyes) and says in pure Russian that freedom, equality and brotherhood await you (the commissars also spoke about this). Where to go to this hungry, half-educated, country boy? So the Vlasovskaya ROA recruited almost 300000 men. Blame them for treason? Who? Homeland or oath? If they could not read the oath. By 1941, Stalin could not defeat the general illiteracy in the countryside and in the villages (and there was no task). The Trotskyist slogan: "The peasantry is a hostile class" survived until the end of Khrushchev. So it is necessary to separate: Vlasov himself and the "Vlasovites". By the way, they fought only on the Western Front, and I will generally keep silent about their role in the liberation of Prague.
            1. Maki Avellevich
              Maki Avellevich 5 September 2019 06: 43
              -4
              Quote: rruvim
              . Where to go to this hungry, half-educated, country boy? So Vlasov ROA and scored almost 300000 men.

              soldiers of not all armies for food massively betrayed their country.
            2. Leopold
              Leopold 5 September 2019 19: 44
              +3
              I’ll support Dmitry, not all of the stew was bought in a bowl. Homeland is more expensive.
        2. Nevsky_ZU
          Nevsky_ZU 4 September 2019 17: 31
          +11
          Quote: 777-3-59-97
          Under this flag Petliura arranged a pogrom of Jews in Kiev

          And under the Russian flag, the Vlasovites killed civilians and Soviet soldiers. And then?

          Vlasov was not until 1917, when it was RI. This is an armed detachment with a patch of a non-existent country during the Second World War, which was in the structure of the armed forces of Nazi Germany. Vlasov is convicted and is not a hero both in modern historiography of the Russian Federation from school to the Academy, and in modern Russia at the level of all authorities from the municipal level to the Federal. If someone in his kitchen hung a portrait of Vlasov, then I'm sorry.
          1. Antares
            Antares 4 September 2019 22: 12
            -10
            Quote: Nevsky_ZU
            Vlasov is convicted and is not a hero both in modern historiography of the Russian Federation from school to the Academy, and in modern Russia at the level of all authorities from the municipal level to the Federal. If someone in his kitchen hung a portrait of Vlasov, then I'm sorry.

            sorry


            As for the first, it’s excusable because before the betrayal
            During these battles, the fighters and commanders of the 20 Army showed dedication and courage, and General Vlasov skillfully commanded them, for which 24 of January 1942 was awarded the Order of the Red Banner and promoted to lieutenant general.
            Mazepa also faithfully served Peter. But something in Russia does not see this. Remember only treason. And numerous works for the glory of Russia and Orthodoxy - there wasn’t such ...
            and Vlasov’s heroism before and after treason.
            1. rruvim
              rruvim 4 September 2019 23: 34
              0
              We are all humans. And in difficult times we make decisions that characterize us. But difficult. At a critical moment or week, we are forced to make a decision that changes everything. For a person, for example, to leave his family, for a general to "spit" on the oath. The first is forgivable, the second "sentence". I mean that Mr. Vlasov was executed correctly. He "deserves it." The fact that he was charged with non-existent crimes is not correct. For me, the argument is this: if you were already an anti-Stalinist and a Russian liberator-patriot in your heart, what the hell did you drive the 2nd shock arm into these swamps? Would have shown courage and heroism, would have spat in the face of this Zhukov (who fucked everything up). Why build a Russian (not Soviet) patriot in captivity? Did you come to your senses at the last moment? I don’t believe ... I ruined almost 250 thousand of my army, but did I come to my senses in captivity? I do not believe!
            2. garrett
              garrett 5 September 2019 12: 53
              +3
              sorry

              huh))))) Well, you don’t write that the monument was erected in New York City ?????
              This is a monument to the leaders and participants of the Liberation Movement of the Peoples of Russia 1941-1945. Novo-Diveevo. New York State. USA
            3. Okolotochny
              Okolotochny 5 September 2019 13: 25
              +4
              And where is the second monument installed? Give a place? And it smells of purely Ukrainian propaganda provocation.
              1. Leopold
                Leopold 5 September 2019 20: 33
                +3
                The NKVD was disbanded, and their "wards" are flourishing.
            4. Dart
              Dart 6 September 2019 14: 42
              0
              what kind of liar are you, however, without comments, such as implying that it is in Russia, but I'm not surprised ... and they found a picture with flags .... but nothing that your patrons in the states have installed?
        3. garrett
          garrett 5 September 2019 11: 38
          +2
          how did you get with your fakes))) already learn the materiel ... the flag of the ROA was the Andreev flag. the tricolor tried to use the 15 Cossack cavalry corps ss, but in the end they salted tuna and even they (volunteers, white emigrants) were not allowed to do this
        4. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor 6 September 2019 00: 46
          -1
          And that Vlasov marching in the center of Moscow? Vlasovites in Moscow seized power?
      3. Zeev Zeev
        Zeev Zeev 4 September 2019 17: 31
        -5
        And in the Soviet press this flag was in cartoons with the Israeli
      4. Terenin
        Terenin 4 September 2019 17: 31
        +16
        Israel has historically been a convenient route for US and CIA presidents to circumvent congressional bans on helping various foul-smelling groups and governments.
        Israeli military assistance to Ukraine and neo-Nazis is similar to the same program of the USA and other NATO countries, including England and Canada.
        They are so obsessed with the alleged Russian threat that they are happy to help open Nazis - if only they were on their side.
        Do Jews have a short memory? fool Even the English newspaper The Telegraph, "Russians in black" writes Biletsky's statement that “the historical mission of our nation at this critical moment is to lead the white races on the last crusade for survival. Crusade against subhumans led by the Semites "
        1. novel66
          novel66 4 September 2019 17: 46
          +8
          gene hi it’s obvious that it’s so shitty in Israel with manpower ... they close their eyes to anything just to ascribe a fighting unit
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 4 September 2019 18: 06
            +9
            Quote: novel xnumx
            gene hi it’s obvious that it’s so shitty in Israel with manpower ... they close their eyes to anything just to ascribe a fighting unit

            Novel hi
            A combat "unit" is considered after the battle, and after the robbery of civilians, in the South-East of Ukraine, such lads, the wording can be chosen only from the Criminal Code.
            1. novel66
              novel66 4 September 2019 18: 30
              +6
              in Israel they will not be spoiled, but you can also rob Arabs
      5. Antares
        Antares 4 September 2019 22: 07
        -6
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        But in any case, this is Ukraine, and he has a hero in history like Bandera.

        how is it that there hasn’t been Ukraine, and even no, it’s all Russia! hi
        Decide at last something or all that was Ukraine. Or is it Russia despite Mazepa, Bandera, Petliur, etc.
        and then everything is good for yourself - and you all that’s left ..
    5. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 4 September 2019 17: 42
      +5
      They chose the wrong side of the force ...
    6. vkl.47
      vkl.47 4 September 2019 17: 45
      +2
      As Kalamoisky says Ms. Obanderovets.
    7. Normal ok
      Normal ok 4 September 2019 19: 36
      -1
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      And it’s not shameful to wear a rag, and even in Israel? negative

      Not. It is shameful to suck every little thing concerning Ukraine, while ignoring their own problems.
    8. svp67
      svp67 4 September 2019 20: 04
      +3
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      And it’s not shameful to wear a rag, and even in Israel?

      No, it’s not shameful for them. And with what flag should he show the country from where he arrived? He was clearly born already under this flag.
  2. Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 4 September 2019 16: 36
    +7
    And the casket just opened .. In Israel, they train a soldier from Svido Ukrainy ..
  3. Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 4 September 2019 16: 38
    +4
    These are probably "refugees" from the Square, rushed to their historical homeland.
  4. Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov 4 September 2019 16: 38
    +6
    It is not surprising if you take into account the fact that Israel has long been reviving Khazaria in Ukraine. Ukraine will become the second homeland for all Jews.
    1. Zeev Zeev
      Zeev Zeev 4 September 2019 16: 48
      -7
      Was Khazaria in the territory of modern Ukraine?
      1. lucul
        lucul 4 September 2019 17: 54
        -8
        Was Khazaria in the territory of modern Ukraine?

        What innocent questions))))
        And who founded Kiev then? )))
        1. Zeev Zeev
          Zeev Zeev 4 September 2019 18: 58
          +2
          Kiev, according to legend, was founded by Kiy. But Khazaria was born in the Caucasus, developed in the interfluve of the Volga and the Don, and the capital Itil was somewhere near Astrakhan.
    2. marshes
      marshes 4 September 2019 17: 36
      0
      Quote: Fyodor Sokolov
      It is not surprising if you take into account the fact that Israel has long been reviving Khazaria in Ukraine. Ukraine will become the second homeland for all Jews.

      You missed the Khazars, geographically it is the land of the Nogais and Adays. laughing Temperament, so they could ....
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  5. Thrifty
    Thrifty 4 September 2019 16: 42
    +15
    Double standards, for Israel, it’s in the order of things-to scream to the whole world about the Holocaust, and support the nationalist ukroinu. ... israel, in a word. ...
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 4 September 2019 16: 47
      +8
      For lovers from Israel to sprinkle saliva in my address, why are you so blind, you don't see Nazi subdivisions ukroiny "Azov" and "Aydar" for years in a row, why is your Israel generally silent on this topic? ??
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        1. 777-3-59-97
          777-3-59-97 4 September 2019 17: 11
          -11

          And why didn’t the sun rune please you?
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 4 September 2019 17: 26
            +3
            The rune itself is nothing
          2. lucul
            lucul 4 September 2019 17: 57
            +2
            And why didn’t the sun rune please you?

            What a funny arrogance ....)))
            So the Germans have this swastika - and is banned in almost all countries. But for Ukrainians - it's just ... it's just a rune of the sun ... Yes?
          3. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 4 September 2019 19: 48
            +7
            Quote: 777-3-59-97
            And why didn’t the sun rune please you?

            Yes Yes Yes... it is they who do not zig, but salute the sun. wink
      2. Zeev Zeev
        Zeev Zeev 4 September 2019 17: 06
        -11
        Strange, but in the Nazi kind of "Azov" there are quite a few Jews. And even Israeli ones.
        1. Honest Citizen
          Honest Citizen 4 September 2019 17: 11
          +7
          Strange, but in the Nazi kind of "Azov" there are quite a few Jews. And even Israeli ones.

          When the "Jewish pogroms" start again, and they will go, the Nazis have only this way, then there is no need to "scream like a victim" ...
          In general, a Nazi Jew is even symbolic, I would say ...
          PS For moderators. Read the Bible, the Old Testament. If there is at least one crime that the Jews would not have committed, I will be MUCH surprised.
          1. Zeev Zeev
            Zeev Zeev 4 September 2019 17: 33
            -6
            And why should there be Jewish pogroms?
            1. Honest Citizen
              Honest Citizen 4 September 2019 17: 36
              0
              Guess yourself. Give me at least one nationalist state with a history of at least a hundred years, well, except for Israel (they haven’t made it to a hundred yet, but the Arabs are “crushed” to the fullest), where there were no “Jewish” pogroms.
              1. Zeev Zeev
                Zeev Zeev 4 September 2019 17: 39
                -9
                Hmm. I will leave aside "the Jews pinch the Arabs." And why is Ukraine a nationalist state? Azerbaijan and Armenia are completely nationalistic states, but no one touches the Jews there.
                1. Honest Citizen
                  Honest Citizen 4 September 2019 17: 46
                  +3
                  How old are these states? This is the time.
                  By the way, Armenian Jews are not just a phrase, they still exist ... So in 10-15 years there will be "the guilty ones". But at the expense of Azerbaijan - I'm not sure if there are any Jews there at all.
                  Now in Ukraine. And she is not a nationalist state in this period of time? Those. in Ukraine, you can safely declare loudly - am I Russian? (they will take the rest, but Russians - never By the way, if it weren’t for one skin color, he would call racism)
                  Or do you think that if Odessa is "Ukraine" (IMHO: Odessa is generally the property of UNESCO), and Jews live there, and they are not "touched", is this an indicator? Wake up.
                  Yes, not everyone has switched to mov. But the way it is planted makes you think.
                  Although, you, from Israel, know better.
                  1. Zeev Zeev
                    Zeev Zeev 4 September 2019 18: 15
                    -1
                    There are many Jews in Azerbaijan. Azerbaijanis even have a Jewish grave on the Alley of Martyrs (this is a memorial to the heroes of the Karabakh war).
                    By the way, quite recently, Russian national Klimkin was quite a foreign minister in nationalist Ukraine.
                  2. Professor
                    Professor 4 September 2019 19: 46
                    -8
                    Quote: Honest Citizen
                    Armenian Jews, by the way, are not just a phrase, but there are ...

                    There are no such. There has never been a Jewish community in Armenia. There is not a single Jewish cemetery. Only in 1990's arrived Jews tried to organize themselves.

                    Quote: Honest Citizen
                    But at the expense of Azerbaijan, I’m not sure if there are any Jews there.

                    There are Jews of Azerbaijan who live well.

                    Quote: Honest Citizen
                    Now in Ukraine. And she is not a nationalist state in this period of time? Those. in Ukraine, you can safely declare loudly - am I Russian? (they will take the rest, but Russians - never By the way, if it weren’t for one skin color, he would call racism)

                    Elementary. In Nikolaev, for example, the Russian Drama Theater acts on state money. In which regional center of the Russian Federation is the Ukrainian Drama Theater?

                    Quote: Honest Citizen
                    Or do you think that if Odessa is "Ukraine" (IMHO: Odessa is generally the property of UNESCO), and Jews live there, and they are not "touched", is this an indicator? Wake up.

                    Odessa is Ukraine. There are Ukrainian laws and children in schools study in Ukrainian.

                    Quote: Honest Citizen
                    Yes, not everyone has switched to mov. But the way it is planted makes you think.

                    And they will not cross. They do not rape anyone with mob. Speak what language you want. Though in Kiev, even in Lviv.

                    Quote: Honest Citizen
                    Although, you, from Israel, know better.

                    Our country is small and we travel a lot and often abroad. Ukraine is now a popular destination. Especially in the fall.
                    1. werevolf75
                      werevolf75 4 September 2019 22: 31
                      +2
                      Clever, but ... fool
                    2. rruvim
                      rruvim 4 September 2019 22: 33
                      0
                      Why is the Jewish community needed in Armenia? The Armenians themselves are Jews, one of ten lost tribes. Yes, they adopted Christianity, but for us the Orthodox are considered heretics (monophysites).
                      In the Talmud (Kiddush., 72a) Samuel includes the locality Meshech (Armenia) in the Midian cities, where the Assyrian king Salmanassar resettled Israeli captives (II Tsar., 18, 11).
                  3. Antares
                    Antares 4 September 2019 22: 21
                    -6
                    Quote: Honest Citizen
                    Those. in Ukraine, you can safely declare loudly - am I Russian? (they will take the rest, but Russians - never By the way, if it weren’t for one skin color, he would call racism)

                    depending on how and where. You can generally be Russian. But if you are a Russian and poke the Russian Federation everywhere, then you can provoke anything. Similarly in the Russian Federation. Watching where and to whom to poke that you are Ukrainian ..
                    Russians ethnically compactly live in Ukraine as an indigenous people. I saw social advertisements with Russians (Russians stubbornly write in Ukrainian anyway, although it’s about Russians) on Ukrainian channels. (This phrase - I'm Russian / I'm Russian looks funny of course)
                    1. Okolotochny
                      Okolotochny 5 September 2019 13: 28
                      +4
                      Yeah, especially compact in Donbass. And you (your power) are trying to "condense" them more there.
                      1. Leopold
                        Leopold 5 September 2019 20: 42
                        +2
                        Alexey, this plate does not have the main thing - there are no local ones. There are no Ukrainians in Ukraine ... let everyone else decide for themselves.
        2. marshes
          marshes 4 September 2019 17: 39
          +8
          Quote: Zeev Zeev
          Strange, but in the Nazi kind of "Azov" there are quite a few Jews. And even Israeli ones.

          There, on the flag of Azov, Rune Wolfsangel, in general, the roof went to the attributes of the SS.
          1. Zeev Zeev
            Zeev Zeev 4 September 2019 17: 46
            -10
            We are not going to talk about the symbolism of armed groups from BOTH parties to the conflict in the Donbass? And then there the whole RNE battalion is hanging out.
            1. Antares
              Antares 4 September 2019 22: 27
              -5
              Quote: Zeev Zeev
              And then there the whole RNE battalion is hanging out.

              about them do not write articles revealing. About the Milchakovs, too, they will not write the words of the worst ..
              Double standards are everywhere ..
              By the way, I didn't even know about Russian nationalists and other "Natsiks" from the Russian Federation, in general, I blindly believed that it only lives in Ukraine ..
              it happens if you watch only Russian channels ...
        3. lucul
          lucul 4 September 2019 17: 57
          +3
          but in the Nazi kind of "Azov" there are quite a few Jews. And even Israeli.

          Are there other Jews? )))
          1. Zeev Zeev
            Zeev Zeev 4 September 2019 18: 17
            -1
            There are others. American, Russian, French, Ukrainian, even Iranian. This is no Syrian or Lebanese Jews. Or Iraqi. Judenfrey has long been there.
            1. lucul
              lucul 4 September 2019 18: 24
              0
              There are others

              You can’t be a little pregnant - either a Jew or not.
              And then they invent - French, American - it's like a Negro blond ...
              1. Zeev Zeev
                Zeev Zeev 4 September 2019 19: 00
                -4
                Blacks are quite blondes themselves. A Jew can have citizenship of any country
        4. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor 6 September 2019 00: 16
          +1
          Strange, but in the Nazi kind of "Azov" there are quite a few Jews.

          But is Nazism when only Jews are oppressed?
    2. Zliy_mod
      Zliy_mod 4 September 2019 16: 50
      +3
      Well, if the Ukrainian people are the goal for profit, then you can sponsor the Natsik army.
    3. 777-3-59-97
      777-3-59-97 4 September 2019 17: 00
      -12
      support nationalist Ukraine

      For God's sake, stop watching Russian television. Give me at least one nationalist in Ukraine who has political or economic weight.
      1. Nevsky_ZU
        Nevsky_ZU 4 September 2019 17: 11
        +7
        Quote: 777-3-59-97
        support nationalist Ukraine

        For God's sake, stop watching Russian television. Give me at least one nationalist in Ukraine who has political or economic weight.

        And what's the point if in Ukraine the whole society has shifted to the right? Prior to 2014, Bandera was considered the hero of the Freedom party, and Yatsenyuk and Tymoshenko (the Popular Front and the Fatherland) maintained neutrality, center. But the Communists and the Party of Regions were against it. Today, the Communists in Ukraine are banned, and the PR is dispersed. And all other parties, like Zelensky, consider Bandera a Hero, like Tymoshenko, and others. Do not understand this, it is pretending to .....
        1. vladcub
          vladcub 4 September 2019 19: 57
          +3
          Nevsky, before the revolution, the RSDLP was also banned, but WORKED underground. Does the Ukrainian Communist Party work?
          PR was still ruling and was the only one, and then scattered: a part could support Petrushka and Co., there are always shifters: remember the story, Philip Orleansky, Kirill Vladimirovich, essays, Raskolnikov, Yeltsin. Some regions have created the United Opposition.
          My opinion: it all depends on the leader: if an ideological person remains among the leaders of their Communist Party, he will drive up the same people and fight
      2. Honest Citizen
        Honest Citizen 4 September 2019 17: 18
        +2
        Give me at least one nationalist in Ukraine who has political or economic weight.

        Interesting ... In Germany, before 1933 - Himler, Goering, Hess, Bormann, Ribbentrop - had any "political weight"?
        Of course, you learned a new training manual, there are no words, but you don’t need to powder your brains.
        Nationalism is the essence of an emotional crowd. And she needs ONE leader. By the way, Remm, and suffered because of this :)
        So your words, may the ignoramus not listen. And with those who know history and can build causal relationships, alas, you can’t compete ... And manuals will not help.
        1. 777-3-59-97
          777-3-59-97 4 September 2019 17: 57
          +1
          Nationalism is the essence of an emotional crowd. And she needs ONE leader.

          Yes Yes. For many years now I have heard about reviving or already reviving fascism in Ukraine. About the Nazi junta, which at the first request of the people, without firing a shot, resigned. And you can criticize power there mercilessly and you will not be imprisoned for disrespect for power. Can you imagine? Such are the Nazis today.
          And do not reproach me for not knowing the story. Kiselev and Solovyov speak your words, so watch your training manuals.
          .
          1. Honest Citizen
            Honest Citizen 4 September 2019 18: 02
            +3
            Kiselev and Solovyov speaks in your words, so it’s not for you to speak for manuals.

            You can believe it, you can not - your right. I do not look at the first or the second, nor do I adore, as individuals.
            For many years now I have heard about reviving or already reviving fascism in Ukraine.

            "Bandera and Shukhevych are heroes of Ukraine!" - find the video on YouTube. Along with the "exploits" of the latter.
            About the Nazi junta, which at the request of the people, without firing a shot, resigned.

            The first demand of the people was voiced in the 2014 year - the result is a war in the Donbass.
            And you can criticize power there mercilessly and you will not be imprisoned for disrespect for power. Can you imagine? Such are the Nazis today.

            We confuse permissiveness and opposition? :)
          2. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 4 September 2019 20: 07
            +4
            Quote: 777-3-59-97
            About the Nazi junta, which at the first request of the people, without firing a shot, resigned.

            And we even know in which country this people lives. smile
            Or have you forgotten how the Chocolate King wanted to postpone the elections, having organized a provocation with the subsequent introduction of an emergency - and where did he come from after that?
            Quote: 777-3-59-97
            And you can criticize power there mercilessly and you will not be imprisoned for disrespect for power. Can you imagine?

            Of course they won't. Two masked men with a TT come up to you - and that’s all over.
            Oh yes, the new government was very fond of Maidan.

            No, these are not "Rosgvardia atrocities". This is the work of the new democratic police of a free Ukraine.
          3. kiril1246
            kiril1246 4 September 2019 22: 27
            0
            Quote: 777-3-59-97
            In your words says Kiselev


            I wonder how public is excited about some Israeli chevron. And the fact that the main propagandist of Russian TV daily talks about Nazi Ukraine in the recent past was a Svidomo Ukrainian patriot, they are absolutely not interested. Well this is how much it is necessary to have washed heads.
      3. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 5 September 2019 13: 29
        +2
        Former speaker of your Council.
      4. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 6 September 2019 00: 14
        +1
        When they walk in the center of the country in thousands and the authorities do nothing with it, it already demonstrates a minimum of tolerance for fascism.
  6. andrewkor
    andrewkor 4 September 2019 16: 42
    +3
    And who doubted the ancient origin of the ruins here? Here is the proof of where you come from, the enta nation has gone!
    It remains to put on an embroidered shirt and harem pants!
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 4 September 2019 17: 32
      +1
      Quote: andrewkor
      It remains to put on an embroidered shirt and harem pants!

      Is the trident enough?
  7. Avior
    Avior 4 September 2019 16: 44
    +9
    Confused. I thought the president is a Jew, then Israel smile
  8. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 4 September 2019 16: 48
    +1
    A photo of an Israeli soldier with a chevron in the form of the flag of Ukraine is discussed on the web

    And sho priapalis, the priest shot at you, helped, ran across helped those, again zrobil, and training for me. feel
  9. Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 4 September 2019 16: 58
    +5
    As an example: the Naval Academy of St. Petersburg is a cadet from Saudi Arabia, on whose sleeve the flag of the kingdom is sewn.

    As these?
  10. anjey
    anjey 4 September 2019 17: 00
    +6
    The network discusses a photograph taken in Israel. She is wearing an Israeli soldier, on whose sleeve a military uniform is visible a patch in the form of the Ukrainian flag with a trident.
    It is interesting with the Russian tricolor there somebody defiles too ??? percent 30% of the Russian open spaces how to give drink, not counting Ukraine and Belarus .....
    1. vladcub
      vladcub 4 September 2019 17: 24
      +2
      I will say more: EVERYTHING was sent - Israeli ministers or immigrants from Russia or their descendants
      1. Zeev Zeev
        Zeev Zeev 4 September 2019 19: 08
        +2
        Of all the prime ministers of Israel, only the father of Ehud Olmert was born in Russia (Buguruslan). All the rest come from Belarus, Poland, Ukraine.
  11. AU Ivanov.
    AU Ivanov. 4 September 2019 17: 12
    +3
    Have come. Apparently, soon the swastika will be sewn.
  12. vladcub
    vladcub 4 September 2019 17: 20
    +4
    Vlad Telman, and who is Ernst Telman?
  13. Rwmos
    Rwmos 4 September 2019 17: 29
    +6
    And the head of Ukraine Kolomoisky with Israeli citizenship does not surprise them?
  14. Pavel57
    Pavel57 4 September 2019 17: 48
    +5
    The climate will change. Where is Israel moving?
    1. anjey
      anjey 4 September 2019 19: 52
      +2
      In Birobidzhan, there will soon be PARADISE laughing
  15. Gronsky
    Gronsky 4 September 2019 17: 49
    -1
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    And it’s not shameful to wear a rag, and even in Israel?

    What is shameful here? On the contrary, they are proud that they will soon make Israel a protectorate from unhappy Ukraine. This should be embarrassing for Russia that it allowed itself to carry on such a bloody Malanian scam.
  16. rocket757
    rocket757 4 September 2019 17: 49
    +3
    Also a topic for me .... it's their business!
    Let them at home and discuss.
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  18. E.S.
    E.S. 4 September 2019 17: 57
    0
    Oh, class, then those who left Germany at the end of the 30x had to wear a swastika on their sleeves!
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      1. vladcub
        vladcub 4 September 2019 19: 26
        +5
        Judge by yourself?
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      2. musketon64
        musketon64 4 September 2019 19: 27
        +2
        From Russia flee ?! But it’s nothing that there are millions of 15 migrants from all over the former Soviet Union in Russia, and they are also in line for citizenship, including from democratic Ukraine and Georgia. And yes, maybe I missed something --- the Jews Pozner, Gozman and Makarevich, too, fled to Israel away from the bloody regime?
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          2. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 5 September 2019 17: 44
            +3
            Um ... as if not to swear. So we are SLAVES? So what are you ..... sitting on a "slave resource"? And in "normal countries" - that is, Russia is not a normal country? Well, a bunch of minus-miners in this article are ordinary Jewish-hoh la .. nationalists. They fled for 40 varieties of sausages - the wind is in your back.
  19. E.S.
    E.S. 4 September 2019 17: 58
    +1
    Quote: Gronsky
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    And it’s not shameful to wear a rag, and even in Israel?

    What is shameful here? On the contrary, they are proud that they will soon make Israel a protectorate from unhappy Ukraine. This should be embarrassing for Russia that it allowed itself to carry on such a bloody Malanian scam.

    Dneprovsky Kaganate!
  20. E.S.
    E.S. 4 September 2019 18: 00
    +5
    Quote: vladcub
    Vlad Telman, and who is Ernst Telman?

    Their four brothers, also Konstantin Ernst and Telman Ismailov, are all brothers!
    1. vladcub
      vladcub 4 September 2019 19: 29
      +4
      I know Ernst Thalmann, the leader of the German Communists, and others I purple
  21. APASUS
    APASUS 4 September 2019 18: 26
    +1
    Why Benya Kolomoisky can support the Nazis in Ukraine, and ordinary citizens of Israel can not? So everything is fine
  22. Piramidon
    Piramidon 4 September 2019 18: 37
    +5
    Your mom. And I got a minus here because I allowed to doubt that in Israel all immigrants from the "nezalezhnoy" are patriots and celebrate "Victory Day"
  23. alex4aa
    alex4aa 4 September 2019 18: 58
    +3
    Jewish Bandera is nonsense, because the real bandera of the first Jews was beaten, this also proves that the Kiev authorities have no ideologies, that is, Ukraine is simply robbed by power and oligarchs
  24. ljoha_d
    ljoha_d 4 September 2019 18: 59
    +1
    Modern Israel is where fascism
  25. Rabioso
    Rabioso 4 September 2019 19: 01
    -4
    This is bullshit. It just can't be. He would have been stopped by a military police patrol and taken away both him and his commander. Well, you certainly don’t know this, and buy an ordinary divorce
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 4 September 2019 19: 21
      +4
      Quote: Rabioso
      This is bullshit. It just can't be. He would have been stopped by a military police patrol and taken away both him and his commander. Well, you certainly don’t know this, and buy an ordinary divorce

      The source of this photo found news on the military industrial complex and what's interesting under it.
      Source
      Vlad Telman
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      528 x 960
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      As far as I understand, Vlad Telman is a well-known Israeli photographer, maybe ask your people about zephole
  26. vladcub
    vladcub 4 September 2019 19: 33
    +4
    Quote: Zeev Zeev
    Of all the prime ministers of Israel, only the father of Ehud Olmert was born in Russia (Buguruslan). All the rest come from Belarus, Poland, Ukraine.

    They ALL come from the former Russian Empire
    1. Antares
      Antares 4 September 2019 22: 31
      -3
      Quote: vladcub
      They ALL come from the former Russian Empire

      they are more than 100 years old ??????????? belay
      Wow centenarians ...
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  28. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 4 September 2019 20: 51
    +5
    Zionists and Bandera brothers for centuries.
  29. Dart
    Dart 4 September 2019 21: 09
    +3
    Quote: Zeev Zeev
    I advise you to teach the history of your country.

    ... said the traitor
  30. ultra
    ultra 4 September 2019 21: 27
    +3
    Poor, he can’t decide whether he’s smart or laughing beautiful.
  31. rruvim
    rruvim 4 September 2019 21: 51
    +4
    Telman is a good photographer. He took a picture of a kid, a reservist, who looks like a Jerusalem bum. If not for the "vintar". But Thälmann's angle is clear! Forward Outskirts towards garbage containers. This is the "look" of the Israeli photo artist.
  32. usr01
    usr01 4 September 2019 21: 58
    +1
    P .... s everywhere enough!
    PySy. Well, smart people gathered here - patriots! I meant (them)!
  33. rruvim
    rruvim 4 September 2019 22: 23
    +5
    In general, when you look at all this reservist nonsense from the IDF, the thought of "deja vu" comes to mind.
    I myself watched the girl at the Jerusalem railway station, who arrived from the train to "Shabbat" with the "Tavor" rifle, which, due to the small stature of the carrier and the incorrect selection of the belt harness, beat the damper on the concrete floor. She hurried to the tram. It is clear that these are auxiliary units. But Thalmann's "trick" is good. Pants from the IDF, boots from "MAGMA", unloading from a "copter", a backpack from military sales. And a shirt from an older brother, a conscript. The most important thing! He forgot the kippah. See in Hohland while
    do not wear.
  34. AKS-U
    AKS-U 4 September 2019 22: 55
    +2
    Nothing sensational, if you recall how the Jews promoted in the 2014 year of Valtsman, Kapitelman, Bakay, Frotman. Go back thrust.
  35. dolfi1
    dolfi1 5 September 2019 04: 54
    +1
    The most popular and fateful topic on the site: whose flag was sewn on the IDF soldier’s uniform? laughing

    But seriously, I personally do not like it. Although it must be admitted that in Ukraine there are not a few decent people, but after Bandera marches, Nazi symbols, the war, Odessa, etc., etc., I do not perceive this country. And even more so, I do not like such a patch on the form of an IDF soldier.
    But since in our army you can find the flags of many countries, it is unlikely that anyone will ban the Ukrainian. sad
  36. armata_armata
    armata_armata 5 September 2019 05: 38
    +1
    Just a Jewish fighter came from Ukraine, where the nat battalion helped the inhabitants of the eastern regions to cut, did not have time to cut the chevrons ...
  37. Quadro
    Quadro 5 September 2019 07: 51
    +1
    Why be surprised? It has long been known that Israel supports Nazi beasts in Ukraine, the latest news about aviation modernization shows this very well.
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  39. E.S.
    E.S. 5 September 2019 11: 02
    +1
    Quote: nesmeshimenya03
    Quote: E.S.
    Oh, class, then those who left Germany at the end of the 30x had to wear a swastika on their sleeves!

    At the end of the 30's, Nazi opponents left Germany anywhere, just to get away from them.
    They go to Israel either from something, or where — to their Jewish country. Those who came to Israel to be a Jew in a Jewish country without escaping from Ukraine may well continue to love and support her.
    That’s more often they flee from Russia, yes. And most often - anywhere, if only to hell.

    This is a great sorrow
  40. bronek
    bronek 5 September 2019 11: 17
    -2
    In Israel, there is complete indifference to symbols in the army, especially secular ones. I served in 92-95, we painted red stars on our helmets and the USSR and everyone was "cared for". And to the soldiers and the command
    1. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 6 September 2019 00: 10
      0
      And if you would draw a swastika?
      1. bronek
        bronek 9 September 2019 14: 45
        0
        But for the swastika would definitely be punished
  41. iouris
    iouris 5 September 2019 13: 03
    +2
    "A real Ukrainian" - he is a "real Ukrainian" in Israel, ATO - it is also ATO in Israel.
  42. kig
    kig 5 September 2019 13: 55
    -4
    It is amazing what the question of the patch on the sleeve can lead to. It would seem, who cares if the Israeli army is allowed? No, we definitely need to go through the Jews, and at the same time catch the Ukrainians and Poles. Just unbelieveble. It’s his boots that haven’t been discussed yet, but there’s also a bronik ... but there’s no end at all. Go ahead!
    1. iouris
      iouris 5 September 2019 22: 08
      +1
      Quote: kig
      who cares if the Israeli army is allowed?

      Indeed, ... who cares if both "trident" and "wolf's hook" and "swastika" and T-shirts "I am a Yynichnaya Bandera" or "Jew Bandera" are allowed?
      1. kig
        kig 6 September 2019 04: 04
        -2
        no need to juggle, this is not about a T-shirt and swastikas.
  43. 1536
    1536 5 September 2019 15: 41
    +2
    Quote: Zeev Zeev
    Collaborators in Russia got into the Cossack Stan and two SS divisions. And on ROA in addition. Or have you already forgotten this part of the story?

    As of April 1945, the ROA included 120-130 of thousands of Vlasov residents.
    During World War II, 29 574 900 people were called up to the ranks of the Red Army. (On 22 June 1941, the Red Army served 4 826 907 soldiers and commanders). By the end of the war, there were 11 million people in the Armed Forces of the USSR.
    It is easy to calculate that the percentage of traitors was thus less than 1,5% at the end of the war. Moreover, among the Vlasovites there were mainly those who could not endure the conditions of detention in German and Polish concentration camps, which can be understood humanly. Such a number of traitors could not have any influence on the development of events at the front, to which, however, the Germans did not allow the Vlasovites, considering them unreliable. Moreover, the propaganda of General Vlasov could not have any effect on the internal situation in Soviet Russia.
    So it’s not worth talking about collaborators in Russia during the war, as an influential force, since their influence was insignificant in those years, our people can’t stand betrayal. This is more a topic of closed dissertations on historical topics than a topic of public discussion in society. Although, of course, today some activists would like it to be the other way around and are trying in every possible way to inflate this issue.
  44. Plate
    Plate 5 September 2019 16: 45
    0
    As an example: the Naval Academy of St. Petersburg is a cadet from Saudi Arabia, on whose sleeve the flag of the kingdom is sewn.

    I want to see it!
  45. Shura Wii
    Shura Wii 5 September 2019 17: 14
    0
    Jewish Nazis, this is normal, they are still terrorists and aggressors ... Well, the poor-minded yavreichik whose ancestors from Zhmerynka slipped into Israel, I must tell you, he’s down))
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  47. silver169
    silver169 6 September 2019 05: 07
    +1
    What's so surprising? Ho.ol is sold to anyone for a piece of bacon.