A photo of an Israeli soldier with a chevron in the form of the flag of Ukraine is discussed on the web

The network discusses a photograph taken in Israel. She is wearing an Israeli soldier, on whose sleeve a military uniform is visible a patch in the form of the Ukrainian flag with a trident.

Initially, there were statements that these were all tricks of people who are fond of working in Photoshop or other graphic editors. However, then an explanation appeared of the person who took this photo. According to some reports, the author is Vlad Telman.

The photographer asked a young man from the Israeli unit where he "came from". If you believe the published information, the soldier answered the question as follows:

There are many repatriates in our unit, because the command allowed the use of chevrons, showing which country the person arrived at the time.

We are talking about the unit that is currently involved in patrolling the territories.

For most armies in the world (even if they have repatriates, former refugees or internally displaced persons), the use of foreign national symbols is uncharacteristic. In Russia, similar options for wearing military uniforms take place in military universities, where foreign students are trained. On one of the sleeves is the Russian state symbolism and symbolism of the type (kind) of troops, on the other (as an option) is the flag of the country from which the cadet arrived in Russia to study. As an example: the Naval Academy of St. Petersburg is a cadet from Saudi Arabia, on whose sleeve the flag of the kingdom is sewn.

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[Lord of the Sith]

And it’s not shameful to wear a rag, and even in Israel?

[marshes]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

And is it not shameful to wear a rag?

Probably knows the story badly.

[krot]

And it’s shameful, because in Sumeria, the pan-and-leg coups made a coup and, as a result, Bandera was in power. Which a few decades ago destroyed Jews as well as Russians or Poles .. I’m so allergic to this flag since 2014 of the year when the Donbass began to bomb. And destroy the civilian population!

[Andrey Andrey]

In Ukraine, the president is a Jew. So the argument about Bandera is at least strange.

[Karaul14]

Quote: Andrey Andrey

In Ukraine, the president is a Jew. So the argument about Bandera is at least strange.

They don’t need arguments; they stopped thinking long ago.

[Angelica]

Andrey Andrey
In Ukraine, the president is a Jew. So the argument about Bandera is at least strange.

There is only one strangeness. Why has the Jewish president still not dispersed (and did not bring to justice) the last of those who killed Jews during WWII?
If earlier all over the world these scum were sought out and executed, now they are munching with the fascists in their gums. He crushed the Jewish people.

[Slavenin82]

Here, here it starts to vomit me, when I see the blue and yellow color together.

[Maz]

hell knows what he is patrolling, but his boots are made of red-brown leather, such slippers are only given to Israeli paratroopers and special equipment. Left-handed, however, and the color of the beret is not visible. but the bronik is clearly visible. But the Jewish eagle is small, it did not come out tall.

[Zeev Zeev]

And why should he be shameful? He was born and raised in Ukraine, loves this country, his full right to bear its flag. By the way, it may well be that he is also a citizen of Ukraine. If the same guy went with the Russian flag or with the flag of Kazakhstan, also not a problem. Even with the flag of Iran, if he was born there.

[marshes]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

why should he be shameful? He was born and raised in Ukraine, loves this country, his full right to bear its flag. By the way, it may well be that he is also a citizen of Ukraine. If the same guy went with the Russian flag or with the flag of Kazakhstan, also not a problem. Even with the flag of Iran, if he was born there.

It is visible and you know the story poorly.
At the expense of Kazakhstan, Although there was Goloshchekin, we respect the Jews, for skill and knowledge.

[Zeev Zeev]

I know the story well enough to know how it is perverted for the sake of politics.

[Vladimir16]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

And why should he be shameful?

Even at sporting events, an athlete will be disqualified for any symbolism that is unofficially approved.
It is impossible for an Israeli athlete to add the Ukrainian flag to his uniform.

And then the army is a sovereign country.
Or not sovereign?

[Zeev Zeev]

I saw people in the army with Russian, American, Ethiopian, Canadian and French symbols. This did not bother anyone even 15 years ago, now even more so.

[whack]

Come on! Look at our SSO in Syria and elsewhere. Kolovrat, chip and dale, imperial flag, isis hunter flag, USSR, Hezbollah, Fatimids .... there are no chevrons. Sculpted for fun. Especially on tasks. And no one there says anything. Or did I not write the truth? Pagan chevrons, for example, are very fashionable among our specialists, from a distance and you will not understand what is there. It is also fashionable to make "local" stripes

[marshes]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

I know the story well enough to know how it is perverted for the sake of politics.

Politics? Not any. Uman or Babi Yar. This is what immediately comes to mind.

[Zeev Zeev]

Or Zmievskaya Beam?

[marshes]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

Or Zmievskaya Beam?

Well, this is unlikely to be Russia collaborators.
Although Israeli assistance to Ukraine, I suspect that this is a kind of revenge.

[Zeev Zeev]

Collaborators in Russia got into the Cossack Stan and two SS divisions. And on ROA in addition. Or have you already forgotten this part of the story?

[Nevsky_ZU]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

Collaborators in Russia got into the Cossack Stan and two SS divisions. And on ROA in addition. Or have you already forgotten this part of the story?

Are you pretending to be d .... m or really? Or from Ukraine? In our history, they are considered traitors, condemned and official. They are not state heroes, unlike the "heroes" of Ukraine.

[Zeev Zeev]

Never lived in Ukraine.
And it's not about where the hero is. The point is that the "swamp" generally denies the presence of collaborators in Russia and their participation in the murders of civilians. Who was tried then in 1943 in Krasnodar, I don’t know.

[marshes]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

And it's not about where the hero is. The point is that the "swamps" generally denies the presence of collaborators in Russia and their participation in the murders of civilians.

Check out our Turkestan Legion, but almost 10 of thousands, did not participate on the eastern front, for it immediately surrendered when the Allies landed in Normandy, and then there was someone who got to Europe, back in 30. And since they replenished, they rarely surrendered , and then they were shot right away, their faces were Asian, something that could be twisted in a cinema.
Those who survived do not know their relatives.
For that Panfilovtsev, 316,312,314,310,38, 391, 387,106 plus rifle brigades are remembered.

[Zeev Zeev]

And then there was the 1st Russian National SS Brigade under the command of Gil-Rodionov, who loved to shoot Belarusian peasants for saying "wrong" (while Gil was a Belarusian by nationality). And as soon as there was a smell of fried, everyone suddenly became anti-fascists and went over to the side of the partisans.

[marshes]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

And then there was the 1st Russian National SS Brigade under the command of Gil-Rodionov, who loved to shoot Belarusian peasants for saying "wrong" (while Gil was a Belarusian by nationality). And as soon as there was a smell of fried, everyone suddenly became anti-fascists and went over to the side of the partisans.

Was there no Jewish detachment?

[Zeev Zeev]

Jews in the SS? Nose did not come out

[marshes]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

Jews in the SS? Nose did not come out

And what the hell is not joking, some could pass under standards.
I don’t remember the Israeli series.
Like, one SS officer does plastic surgery at the end of the Reich, and becomes a valuable Mossad employee, there is a lyrical and love background, in short, they turned on NTV in 90x.

[Zeev Zeev]

The series is generally American. They twisted it on ORT. No need to make an impression of the world from the SERIAL.

[Dart]

Lies. About 10.000 Jews were captured by the Red Army.

[Dart]

What, someone pricks his eyes ...?

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

Jews in the SS? Nose did not come out

then you definitely don’t know the story ...
moreover:
Does the word Mishling say nothing to you?
Have you heard about the Jewish police of the "Galicia" district?
Adolf Rotfeld, the head of the Lviv Yudendrat - did not hear?

And the officer of the German (!) Security Police of the same Lviv Max Goliger - and they did not hear about him?

Hitler’s aviation destroyed how many Soviet cities and villages, how many civilians were killed by fragments of air bombs? Many, very different ... We remember this, but we probably forgot that Erhard Milkh, a potential repatriate to Israel, was in charge of these "aces." The Field Marshal, who received the title of Honorary Aryan from Hitler’s hands, didn’t know this?

yes, you just "do not know" anything that could tarnish you.
we understand that among the Soviet people there were those who eventually fought against us, but for us they are traitors.
so "come out with your nose" - everything is in order, read the story more tightly and then declare that you know it ...

[Zeev Zeev]

I do know history. And about the "mishlinge", and about Milch, and about the laws of Nuremberg, according to which "mishlinge" could not serve in the Wehrmacht, and about the fact that no "Jewish police of Galicia" existed. And about how the capo was planted in Israel, and about how the Jews killed the Jew Kastner in Israel, and about many other things.

[PalBor]

Heydrich and his nose forgot

[mko]

typical bavarian. not a joke

[PalBor]

Yes, maybe, although there were suspicions about his origin from childhood until after death.
By the way, he is from Saxony)))

[PalBor]

Illustration.
"The ideal German soldier" ... Werner Goldberg.

[aphenogen.ambrosa]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

Jews in the SS? Nose did not come out

The historical truth is that 150 soldiers were on a living in the Nazi army (Shimon Briman, "Hitler's Jewish Soldiers"). Jews only by father or only by mother and not professing Judaism were not considered Jews in Germany - they were so-called. "Mishlinge".
Tens of thousands of these "mishlinges" lived quietly in Nazi Germany. They were called up to serve in the Verkhmat and the Luftwaffe in the most usual manner. In January 1944, the Wehrmacht personnel department compiled a list of 77 high-ranking officers and generals "mixed with the Jewish race or married to Jewish women." Among them are 23 colonels, 5 major generals, 8 lieutenant generals and 2 full army generals. To this list can be added another 60 names of senior officers and generals of the Wehrmacht, aviation and navy, including 2 field marshals. It is believed that in the entire top of the Third Reich, only Goering had no admixtures of Jewish blood. Hundreds of "mishlinges" were awarded Iron Crosses for bravery. 20 soldiers and officers of Jewish origin were awarded the highest military award of the Third Reich - the Knight's Cross. Among the Jews who held a high position in Nazi Germany, the first place, of course, belongs to Field Marshal Edward Milch - the second man in the Luftwaffe after Hermann Goering. When agitated Gestapo men rushed to "fat Herman" with "crime" against his deputy, the Reichs-marshal yelled at them and uttered a phrase that became winged: "I decide who is considered a Jew!" Milch was promptly promoted to "honorary Aryan". The process of "arianization" was sometimes extremely fast. The Gestapo, who had heard that Fraulein Kunde, the cook sent to the Fuehrer by the Romanian Marshal Antonescu, was Jewish, immediately reported this to the "chief." Not at all embarrassed, Hitler answered them: "So what? Why bother me over trifles? Can't you yourself figure out what to do? Arianize her!" (Alan Abrams. "Special Appeal." New Jersey, 1985).

[kapitan92]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

And then there was the 1st Russian National SS Brigade under the command of Gil-Rodionov, who loved to shoot Belarusian peasants for saying "wrong"

In vain you raise this topic!
The historical truth is that 150 soldiers were on a living in the Nazi army (Shimon Briman, "Hitler's Jewish Soldiers"). Jews only by father or only by mother and not professing Judaism were not considered Jews in Germany - they were so-called. "Mishlinge".
Tens of thousands of these "mishlinges" lived quietly in Nazi Germany. They were called up to serve in the Verkhmat and the Luftwaffe in the most usual manner. In January 1944, the Wehrmacht personnel department compiled a list of 77 high-ranking officers and generals "mixed with the Jewish race or married to Jewish women." Among them are 23 colonels, 5 major generals, 8 lieutenant generals and 2 full army generals. To this list can be added another 60 names of senior officers and generals of the Wehrmacht, aviation and navy, including 2 field marshals. It is believed that in the entire top of the Third Reich, only Goering had no admixtures of Jewish blood. Hundreds of "mishlinges" were awarded Iron Crosses for bravery. 20 soldiers and officers of Jewish origin were awarded the highest military award of the Third Reich - the Knight's Cross.
Can you recall the Jews in the service of the Gestapo !?

One of the most famous Zionist agents of the Gestapo was the Jewish merchant Rudolph (Rare) Israel Katzner (Kastner) - one of the leaders of Hungarian Jews. During the war, Katzner accompanied the SS officer more than once, Himmler's confidant, Kurt Becher, during his visits to the concentration camps.

According to the testimony of one of the highest SS officers, Karl Dam, the Nazis formed the Jewish police from the Zionists to maintain order in the Teriseen concentration camp in Czechoslovakia. Karl Dam added that thanks to the help of Zionist agents, between 1941 and 1945, they were able to place more than 400.000 Jews in Czechoslovakia in ghettos and forced labor camps.

Remind you what it is?
Learn the mat. part, colleague! And don’t look in a stranger’s eye! [B] [/ b]

[Zeev Zeev]

We look at the fate of Kastner.

[krot]

And it's not about where the hero is.

Just about that and the speech! Traitors were in any country, in Israel, in Russia or in the USA! And only among the Sumerians the SS division is a hero! And we were shot. Blueway now from the explanations of the ignorant ..

[igor67]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Quote: Zeev Zeev

Collaborators in Russia got into the Cossack Stan and two SS divisions. And on ROA in addition. Or have you already forgotten this part of the story?

Are you pretending to be d .... m or really? Or from Ukraine? In our history, they are considered traitors, condemned and official. They are not state heroes, unlike the "heroes" of Ukraine.

Well, I'm from Ukraine, we have a lot of cars driving with Ukrainian symbols, I also had the coat of arms of Ukraine on the car, there are very few Russian flags,

[marshes]

[

Quote: Zeev Zeev

Collaborators in Russia got into the Cossack Stan and two SS divisions. And on ROA in addition. Or have you already forgotten this part of the story?

Well this is their story, almost everyone was convicted.

[Antares]

Quote: marshes

Well this is their story, almost everyone was convicted.

during the USSR, all traitors to the motherland were first condemned.
but it’s not the USSR erected.

[garrett]

but it’s not the USSR erected.

Of course not...
the truth is an old picture ... now on this stone there is no skin and red

[Okolotochny]

And not Russia. And he "erected" one stubborn Cossack girl in his yard. Are there streets named after Bandera and Shukhevych in Ukraine? Who renamed them? Ekaterina, in your case, chewing is better than talking. The whole history of Ukraine is a history of lies and betrayal.

[gurzuf]

We not only remember, but also condemn and do not justify all the more. And there are no torchlight processions of veterans of these collaborators in Russia.

[Okolotochny]

We don’t call them streets. And Atalef admired Lviv, walking along Bender Avenue.

[Serg koma]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

I am enough I know the story well, to know how it is perverted for the sake of politics.

To read - " I know the story well, to know how to distort it"

[Lopatov]

Just the Israelis love the Nazis, what is there to hide. A bunch of examples. Lebanese phalangists, Georgians, now ukronatsi. They even teach them how to ride, so that they learn how to kill Russians better.

[Personalrec]

Yeah, the Nazis with a Jewish president and a prime minister. Oh, this Nazism is a new wave)

[Lopatov]

Quote: PersonalRec

Yeah, the Nazis with a Jewish president and a prime minister. Oh, this Nazism is a new wave)

It happens.
It even happens that a Jew and an Israeli citizen finances the creation of a clearly Nazi formation. With its symbol the emblem of the SS division "Das Reich"

I didn’t just write about the love of Israelis for the Nazis. It's hard not to notice

[Bad thing]

But I won’t be surprised if Adik Schicklgruber eventually turns out to be a Jew too.

[lucul]

But I won’t be surprised if Adik Schicklgruber eventually turns out to be a Jew too.

So he has a surname - a shekel collector ....

[Fast_mutant]

Quote: Bad

But I won’t be surprised if Adik Schicklgruber ...

With all due respect...
Once it is a knowledge of history and historical truth.
Not in defense of the character, but his father changed his last name long before the birth of his son. So, legally, he was not a "schickle" for a minute. Historical fact, if that. I found out myself not so long ago, I confess.

Here is from "Vicky": "Father - Alois Hitler (1837-1903). Mother - Clara Hitler (1860-1907), née Pölzl. Alois, being illegitimate, until 1876 bore the surname of his mother Maria Anna Schicklgruber (German Schicklgruber) . "
And in 1889, you know who was born.
So there’s a gap of 13 years.

[Honest Citizen]

He was born and raised in Ukraine, loves this country, his full right to bear its flag.

Elementary Watson! (with)
Let him then go to the nenka, and there he wears.
If he is a citizen of Israel, and even in the service, then you must agree, it’s strange to wear the flag of another state on the chevron.
If he is a "student", then for God's sake ...

[Zeev Zeev]

What does the "student" have to do with it? Volunteers from other countries are quite serving in the IDF. Most often from the USA, but I even saw a Venezuelan.

[Honest Citizen]

It reminds a joke about a black man reading a Jewish newspaper in the subway ...

[Normal ok]

Quote: Honest Citizen

He was born and raised in Ukraine, loves this country, his full right to bear its flag.

Elementary Watson! (with)
Let him then go to the nenka, and there he wears.
If he is a citizen of Israel, and even in the service, then you must agree, it’s strange to wear the flag of another state on the chevron.
If he is a "student", then for God's sake ...

If Israel allows it, then what is your concern? This is their internal affair.

[Antares]

Quote: Normal ok

If Israel allows it, then what is your concern? This is their internal affair.

what are you? This is Ukraine. And here are all the specialists in it.
Know that it is "wrong"! And then all the clichés of an information war ...
By the way, for any Israelis for Ukraine (even neutral posts) dozens are slapping.
It's funny that the pro-Israel posts are also slapping. Even for pro-Russian, but critical, similarly.
It is difficult to say what opinion is needed, but most likely approving ..
By the way, I hasten to remind you that your favorite expression / argument is usually that you are not a citizen of the Russian Federation to judge it. But there was no talk for other countries
Russians know better what is in Ukraine and what should be in Israel!
So execute him for sure, they will like it, you know how many articles come out ... they will still praise.

[Nevsky_ZU]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

And why should he be shameful? He was born and raised in Ukraine, loves this country, his full right to bear its flag. By the way, it may well be that he is also a citizen of Ukraine. If the same guy went with the Russian flag or with the flag of Kazakhstan, also not a problem. Even with the flag of Iran, if he was born there.

Perhaps because when the territory-state of Ukraine, twice came out of the influence of Moscow, and it twice slaughtered the Jews? Learn the history, the pogroms of the Jews from Petliura. Not only Bandera excelled. Today it came out the third time ....

[Zeev Zeev]

And the pogroms of the Jews from the First Cavalry Army of Budyonny? And the massacre of the Jews in Vitebsk? Polotsk? Mstislavia?

[Nevsky_ZU]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

And the pogroms of the Jews from the First Cavalry Army of Budyonny? And the massacre of the Jews in Vitebsk? Polotsk? Mstislavia?

If there were such facts, then these are crimes of individual units and on the conscience of commanders. Not in the Russian Empire, not in the USSR there was no purposeful policy of extermination of Jews. In contrast to the state policy of the Ukrainian Directory, headed by Petlyura and the official policy of the OUN UPA, which in July 1941 in Lviv proclaimed independence by killing the Jewish population of Lviv.
LEARN HISTORY

[Zeev Zeev]

The official policy of the Russian Empire forbade the residence of Jews within the Russian Empire until the 1791 year. And from 1791 to 1917, Jews were forbidden to live outside the former Commonwealth, with the exception of people with higher education, merchants of the first guild, artisans, and recruits who had served. Moreover, Jews were recruited much more than Christians, taken from 13 years, and their service (25 years) was counted only from 18 years. And about earlier times, when Ivan the Terrible ordered all Jews of Polotsk to be drowned in the Dvina, or when, under Alexei Mikhailovich, the Russian troops, along with the Cossacks, destroyed the entire Jewish population of present-day Belarus, we modestly keep silent.

[Volodin]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

And about earlier times, when Ivan the Terrible ordered all Jews of Polotsk to be drowned in the Dvina, or when, under Alexei Mikhailovich, Russian troops, along with the Cossacks, destroyed the entire Jewish population of present Belarus we modestly silent.

"We are Nikolai the Second". All clear...
You should have watched the pseudo-historical films "BBC" less, where Ivan the Terrible "executed 10 million people" in Moscow, when there were hardly so many in all of Russia ...

[Zeev Zeev]

I advise you to teach the history of your country.

[Volodin]

Advise those who fled from their country and found another. I don’t have to give advice.

[lucul]

And from 1791 to 1917, Jews were forbidden to live outside the former Commonwealth

And about earlier times, when Ivan the Terrible ordered all Jews of Polotsk to be drowned in the Dvina, or when, under Alexei Mikhailovich, the Russian troops, along with the Cossacks, destroyed the entire Jewish population of present-day Belarus, we modestly keep silent.

You tell these tales to grandmothers at the entrance ....
At 1941, in Minsk alone, the number of Jews was more than 50% of the population of the city. In the western regions of Belarus, in some cities, the proportion of Jews exceeded 70% of the total population.
Needless to say, from 1917 to 1941, as you say, that is, in twenty years, Jews would never have been able to increase their numbers.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

not in the USSR there was a purposeful policy of extermination of Jews.

In 1970, the former head of the Soviet government, a member of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU, Nikolai Aleksandrovich Bulganinin said in an interview that indeed, at the beginning of the 1953, deportation of Jews from Moscow and from other cities was being prepared.
At the end of February, he then held the post of Deputy Minister of Defense, called Stalin and ordered the train to be transported to Moscow, Leningrad, Kiev, Minsk, Stalingrad, Sverdlovsk, and other large industrial centers of the country for the deportation of the Jewish population.

[Okolotochny]

In 1970, the former head of the Soviet government, a member of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU, Nikolai Aleksandrovich Bulganinin said in an interview,

This is called OBS information.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Okolotochny

This is called OBS information.

And what is it called?

If you do not know then I will write
Anti-Semitism at the state level!

[Okolotochny]

Once touched upon the national question, then:
1. What is the date? 20.01.1953/XNUMX/XNUMX Who was the ruler? Stalin-Dzhugashvili, "repressive apparatus" leader Beria. Claims against Georgia. But no. You helped them in the aggression against South Ossetia and the Russian peacekeepers.
2.

Anti-Semitism at the state level!

What is it like? That is, were there any orders, decrees, orders? Provide then. And so - this is purely Israeli or OBS.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Okolotochny

Provide then.

Your not knowing the truth and cons will not change the story
Published in the newspaper Pravda No. 13 (12581) and other central newspapers on January 13, 1953.
PEST DOCTOR GROUP ARREST
“Some time ago, the state security authorities discovered a terrorist group of doctors, who aimed to reduce the lives of active leaders of the Soviet Union by means of harmful treatment.
Among the participants in this terrorist group were: Professor M. Vovsi, general practitioner; Professor Vinogradov V.N., general practitioner; Professor Kogan M. B., general practitioner; Professor Kogan B. B., general practitioner; Professor Egorov P. I., general practitioner; Professor A. Feldman, otolaryngologist; Professor Etinger J. G., general practitioner; Professor A. Greenstein, neuropathologist; Mayorov G.I., general practitioner.
Most of the members of the terrorist group (Vovsi M. S., Kogan B. B., Feldman A. I., Grinshtein A. M., Etinger Y. G. and others) were associated with the international Jewish bourgeois-nationalist organization “Joint”, created by American intelligence supposedly to provide material assistance to Jews in other countries. In fact, this organization carries out extensive espionage, terrorist and other subversive activities under the leadership of American intelligence in a number of countries, including the Soviet Union. The arrested Vovsi told the investigation that he received the directive “on the extermination of leading Soviet personnel” from the United States from the Joint organization through a doctor in Moscow Shimeliovich and a well-known Jewish bourgeois nationalist Mikhoels.
Other members of the terrorist group (Vinogradov V.N., Kogan M.B., Egorov P.I.) turned out to be long-standing agents of British intelligence.
The investigation will be completed shortly. "
(TASS)
After Stalin's death
Document No. 176
L.P. Beria - to the Presidium of the Central Committee of the CPSU on the rehabilitation of those arrested in the "case of pest doctors"
01.04.1953
"The decision of the special investigative commission with a detailed statement of the results of the verification of the materials of the investigation in this case is attached.
The USSR Ministry of the Interior considers it necessary:
1) to fully rehabilitate all the doctors and members of their families brought to justice and illegally arrested and immediately release them from custody;
2) to prosecute former employees of the Ministry of State Security of the USSR, who were especially sophisticated in fabricating this provocative case and in flagrant perversions of Soviet laws;
3) publish a special message in print;
4) to consider the responsibility of the former Minister of State Security of the USSR, Comrade S. IGNATIEV
The USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs has taken measures to exclude the possibility of repeating similar distortions of Soviet laws in the work of the bodies of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
L. BERIA
AP RF. F.Z. Op. 58. D. 423. L. 5-7. Copy"
And THE BEST DOCUMENT, MILLION JEWS LEAVED THE USSR.
PLEASE DO NOT ANSWER.
LEARN HISTORY.

[Okolotochny]

You haven't answered completely. Your "Knowledge" of history is pulling out facts that are beneficial only to your point of view. I do not know the history of Jewry, I am interested in the history of my country, my own, and not the one into which they flooded for 40 varieties of sausage. Once again - Resolutions, orders, decrees on deliberate national ... call it what you want. Bring them in? Do you have them? There is none of them. Second, I repeat to you as a stoned nationalist - Stalin and Beria are Georgian nationalities. All the claims of Georgia, which you helped to upgrade the tanks from which our citizens and soldiers were killed. After Stalin, the country was ruled by 3 natives of Ukraine (3 Karl!). If you think that after Stalin the Jews were belittled - all the claims are against the state of Ukraine, and for which you, on the RUSSIAN RESOURCE, are sowing your nationalist ideas.

[Okolotochny]

And THE BEST DOCUMENT, MILLION JEWS LEAVED THE USSR. Yes, I’m equally equal to those who dumped for more fat and rich soup.

[Okolotochny]

https://regnum.ru/news/2708411.html?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com%2F%3Ffrom%3Dspecial&utm_source=YandexZenSpecial
Read and educate yourself, Bandera lawyer. Ugh.

[cradle]

hde in the truth articles about the Jews? Or again, the investigating authorities are to blame for the fact that the Jews went to doctors? Not to stokers, turner, but to doctors ... Probably so as not to overwork much? And then: Guard, the Jews are being persecuted. Do not make me laugh.

[cradle]

- what a hot smell ... and only death prevented the Teran from tormenting the unfortunate yavrerey !!!

[lucul]

And the pogroms of the Jews from the First Cavalry Army of Budyonny?

So sho - the Jews of the First Horse Army smashed other Jews? )))
Antique Jewish Fun?

[Zeev Zeev]

There were few Jews in the First Horse. And then for the most part the commissars at headquarters.

[lucul]

There were few Jews in the First Horse. And then for the most part the commissars at headquarters.

This was among the rank and file units, and among the leadership - Jews under 90%.
And the soldiers themselves, without the consent of the leadership, will not arrange pogroms - discipline after all.
Therefore - on their part, the usual practice of cutting off the dry branches of Israel (in their opinion).

[Zeev Zeev]

There were no Jews among the leadership at all. Medical staff, commissars (and an absolutely minority, commissars selected more or less close to the contingent). And we will keep silent about discipline in the Red Army in the Civil Army, it is well shown in the 1934 film "Chapaev".

[Okolotochny]

A colleague, I read one piece of news and I understood the love of Jews for Little Russians - You have the same principle - Ukraine is not Russia - We are not Soviet, we are Jews. So, the news is for you and your compatriots, for a snack. After that, how are you feeling?
https://regnum.ru/news/2708411.html?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com%2F%3Ffrom%3Dspecial&utm_source=YandexZenSpecial
The chief rabbi puts a memorial cross at the Jewish cemetery of Bandera. Oh well. They were in Berlin, but Tel Aviv has not yet. We can visit such rabbis.

[rruvim]

There were no Jews at all in the "second horse". Why Mironov was declared an anti-Semite.

[Okolotochny]

And who commanded the entire revolutionary army? Trotsky. And who was the initiator of the eradication of the Cossacks in Russia? Sverdlov. Can you tell me what their nationality was?

[Normal ok]

There is an old joke on this subject. More Soviet.
I found out like Budyonny that someone wrote a march of his name. And he says to the orderly: find a man. Searched - found. Lead to Budyonny. It turned out to be a Jew from an orchestra. Budyonny sits at the table, in front of him a quarter of moonshine and a snack. Sit down says. The Jew sat down. Pause. Budyonny is silent because the tongue-tied one, the Jew is silent because he is afraid. Then Budyonny finds a way out - pours. We drank it. Pause. Pours, drank. So times 3-4. Then Budyonny led to a conversation, said: if you want, I’ll tell a story. Jew: of course I want. Budyonny: somehow we burst into a Jewish town, drafts bare ... And who are you by the way nationality? Jew: Jew. Budyonny thought and said: I’ll tell you another story.

[rruvim]

Not so it was !!!
I found out like Budyonny that someone wrote a march of his name. And he says to the orderly: find a man. Searched - found. Lead to Budyonny. It turned out to be a Jew from an orchestra. Budyonny sits at the table, in front of him a quarter of moonshine and a snack. Sit down says. The Jew sat down. Pause. Budyonny is silent because the tongue-tied one, the Jew is silent because he is afraid. Then Budyonny finds a way out - pours. We drank it. Pause. Pours, drank. So times 3-4. Then Budyonny led to a conversation, said: if you want, I’ll tell a story. Jew: of course I want. Budyonny: somehow we burst into a Jewish town, drafts bare ... And who are you by the way nationality? Jew: I am a Bolshevik. Budyonny thought and said: I’ll tell you another story.

[aphenogen.ambrosa]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

And the pogroms of the Jews from the First Cavalry Army of Budyonny? And the massacre of the Jews in Vitebsk? Polotsk? Mstislavia?

The writer Grigory Klimov (USA) - based on the unclassified and generally accessible state archives of the USSR - gives lists of the Soviet government in 1917-1921, which are easy to verify:

Council of People's Commissars - 77,2% of Jews,

Military Commissariat - 76,7%,
People's Commissariat of Foreign Affairs - 81,2%,
Narcomfin - 80%,
People's Commissariat - 95%,
Narcompros - 79,2%,
People's Commissariat of Social Security - 100%,
People's Commissariat of Labor - 87,5%,
Provincial commissars - 91%,
Journalists - 100%.

[Antares]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Learn history, pogroms of Jews from Petlyura

the toughest terror of Jews in Ukraine was in the era of the War of Independence. It was easier to be a Pole than a Jew. They did not even take a ransom for them. Destroyed.
Hatred was based on the fact that they saw the main evil in them (they were mainly clerks and managers). So illiterate peasants destroyed those who were considered guilty in their troubles. Without pity.

If there were such facts, then these are crimes of individual units and on the conscience of commanders. Not in the Russian Empire, not in the USSR there was no purposeful policy of extermination of Jews. In contrast to the state policy of the Ukrainian Directory, headed by Petlyura and the official policy of the OUN UPA, which in July 1941 in Lviv proclaimed independence by killing the Jewish population of Lviv.
LEARN HISTORY

we know, they swam, if there was nothing for us, but in Ukraine ...
Well, for example
in 1113 year in Kiev there was a major Jewish pogrom
(Then there was no Ukraine, so we will relate it to Russia?)
The first known pogrom of Jews in the Russian Empire occurred in the 1821 year in Odessa (Ukraine still is not). Jews were often celebrated in my city. But there are many of them and they are rich.
In 1895, a brutal pogrom took place in Kutaisi.
6 — 7 April 1903 years, during the days of Orthodox Easter, there was a major pogrom in Chisinau
After the publication of the Tsarist manifesto of 17 on October 1905, the largest Jewish pogroms in the history of tsarist Russia swept the southern and southwestern provinces of the Pale of Settlement. According to the data of Doctor of Historical Sciences S. A. Stepanov, cited by Dina Amanzholova, in October 1905 of the year, up to 690 pogroms occurred in 102 settlements. The victims were of different ethnicities, but most were Jews.
During the October pogroms of 1905, more than 800 Jews were killed (half of them are in my city)
Describing the pogroms from the year 1880 until the revolution, historians indicate that they were accompanied by support from the authorities and the police, or were ignored by them
According to the historian Gennady Kostyrchenko, during the Civil War in Russia there were 1236 cases of anti-Jewish protests, 887 of which were attributed to pogroms - to actions accompanied by violence on a massive scale. Of these, 493 shares (40%) were committed by the Petliurists, 307 (25%) - by the green, 213 (17%) - by the White Guards and 106 (8,5%) - by the Red
And only in the USSR (not counting the period of the Second World War) more or less calmly passed.
And reading the books (Stepanov Port Arthur) I recall the statement of the Russian commander - "It's all because of the Jews", shaking the knife .. Just in the spirit of pogroms .. very clearly emphasized mood.
In general, where the density of Jews is greater, the more often pogroms and terror occurred. Say in the territory of modern Ukraine and Belarus there were more Jews than in the territory of modern Russia. Accordingly, there are much more cases in the territory of modern Ukraine. But if Ukraine never happened, then all this happened in Russia.

[not main]

That's purely Jewish! I’ll turn inside out, but I will prove something that wasn’t!

[Nevsky_ZU]

Quote: Antares

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Learn history, pogroms of Jews from Petlyura

the toughest terror of Jews in Ukraine was in the era of the War of Independence. It was easier to be a Pole than a Jew. They did not even take a ransom for them. Destroyed.
Hatred was based on the fact that they saw the main evil in them (they were mainly clerks and managers). So illiterate peasants destroyed those who were considered guilty in their troubles. Without pity.

If there were such facts, then these are crimes of individual units and on the conscience of commanders. Not in the Russian Empire, not in the USSR there was no purposeful policy of extermination of Jews. In contrast to the state policy of the Ukrainian Directory, headed by Petlyura and the official policy of the OUN UPA, which in July 1941 in Lviv proclaimed independence by killing the Jewish population of Lviv.
LEARN HISTORY

we know, they swam, if there was nothing for us, but in Ukraine ...
Well, for example
in 1113 year in Kiev there was a major Jewish pogrom
(Then there was no Ukraine, so we will relate it to Russia?)
The first known pogrom of Jews in the Russian Empire occurred in the 1821 year in Odessa (Ukraine still is not). Jews were often celebrated in my city. But there are many of them and they are rich.
In 1895, a brutal pogrom took place in Kutaisi.
6 — 7 April 1903 years, during the days of Orthodox Easter, there was a major pogrom in Chisinau
After the publication of the Tsarist manifesto of 17 on October 1905, the largest Jewish pogroms in the history of tsarist Russia swept the southern and southwestern provinces of the Pale of Settlement. According to the data of Doctor of Historical Sciences S. A. Stepanov, cited by Dina Amanzholova, in October 1905 of the year, up to 690 pogroms occurred in 102 settlements. The victims were of different ethnicities, but most were Jews.
During the October pogroms of 1905, more than 800 Jews were killed (half of them are in my city)
Describing the pogroms from the year 1880 until the revolution, historians indicate that they were accompanied by support from the authorities and the police, or were ignored by them
According to the historian Gennady Kostyrchenko, during the Civil War in Russia there were 1236 cases of anti-Jewish protests, 887 of which were attributed to pogroms - to actions accompanied by violence on a massive scale. Of these, 493 shares (40%) were committed by the Petliurists, 307 (25%) - by the green, 213 (17%) - by the White Guards and 106 (8,5%) - by the Red
And only in the USSR (not counting the period of the Second World War) more or less calmly passed.
And reading the books (Stepanov Port Arthur) I recall the statement of the Russian commander - "It's all because of the Jews", shaking the knife .. Just in the spirit of pogroms .. very clearly emphasized mood.
In general, where the density of Jews is greater, the more often pogroms and terror occurred. Say in the territory of modern Ukraine and Belarus there were more Jews than in the territory of modern Russia. Accordingly, there are much more cases in the territory of modern Ukraine. But if Ukraine never happened, then all this happened in Russia.

But this is not according to the Tsar’s decree and order? These are popular social riots. But Petlyura, as the commander in chief of the Directory, gave the order. So the OUN in Lviv 1941 all according to Ukrainian integral nationalism.

[Okolotochny]

So answer - in Ukraine there are streets of Bandera and Shukhevych and who renamed them?

[Leopold]

Alex, do not get excited. They chose their own government, now they are "reaping". I'd rather not say anything about my answer to your question, you can't say that on the site.

[Okolotochny]

Sergey, they’ve got it already. After all, look - they just began to write jokes on the news. The Israelis and Ukrainians are excited how? When he suggested that the comrades of the Jews (since they love Ukraine so much) give them money and forgive the debt, they immediately went into dull silence. It means that under the USSR and Russia it was possible to sit on the hump of inhabitants. So also spit on top. Now both Jews and ho .... former Little Russians are to blame for Russia.

[Leopold]

On the topic - I agree. Site rules prohibit speaking and acting in good faith.

[Leopold]

And he did not immediately realize, for me, so conscience (if it exists) is so above the law, although not always in harmony with him.

[cradle]

Well kada profitable to emphasize the barbarism of this territory, then there was no Ukraine. Cada barbarism of the rest of Russia, then it is Ukraine ...

[mark2]

It is from this love that he serves in the country of Israel?

[Svarog]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

He was born and raised in Ukraine, loves this country, his full right to bear its flag.

I just can’t understand how you can love your country and still live and fight for another? How can you love your country and invest money in the economy of another country? Strange love, don’t you? It seems to me that if you love the Motherland, then you live in the Homeland and try to do everything possible to make life in your country better than anywhere else ... this is a manifestation of love .. Everything else can be called nostalgia, but not love ..

[Antares]

Quote: Svarog

I just can’t understand how you can love your country and still live and fight for another?

how many Frenchmen brought glory to Russian weapons and made for RI? They loved France and returned to it.
Paul Jones? Also.
Service somewhere in the Foreign Legion ..
Volunteer?
Love for the motherland is in the heart. But you do not need you apart from love to live everywhere, work only for your Beloved country, fight only for it, spend money only on it
This is not a marriage with the motherland. And not even a contract. This is unselfish love. Neither are you homeland, not you homeland. Only love (emotions)
Attempts to use our animal instincts (such as imprinting) for the purposes of politics or officials, I consider criminal on the part of states.

[Zeev Zeev]

Is it possible to love two women at the same time?

[Radical]

With these flags there are generally only paradoxes, both with their - Petliur, and with the flag of the Russian Federation ....

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

And why should he be shameful? He was born and raised in Ukraine, loves this country, his full right to bear its flag.

Something you bring in Israel start, it is not clear where to go.

[whack]

Look how many minuses! These are the minus players who will never understand that everyone has their own homeland. And each Motherland is loved in its own way. Well, he was born in Russia, lucky, why wax others. From the height of my experience, I have always respected the militias who openly said: "I am Ukrainian and I do not want a junta in power on my land (Donbass)." He was born in Ukraine 20 years earlier than the events of 14, this is his country, his flag and he has his own attitude to this. Yes, I hate this flag for obvious reasons, but I respect those who share the Bandera scum and the Ukrainians!

[Serg koma]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

By the way, it may well be that he is also a citizen of Ukraine

Then in general - "no Motherland, no Flag" at the repatriate
And you for educational program

Regulations, prohibiting dual citizenship, This is:
The fourth article of the Constitution of Ukraine.
The nineteenth and second articles of the law "On Citizenship".
Upon voluntarily obtaining foreign citizenship, an individual can no longer be a citizen of Ukraine. Punishment can only be applied to adult citizens. Accordingly, having citizenship of two countries at the same time is strictly prohibited.

At the initiative of the President of Ukraine, amendments were made to the Law on Citizenship of Ukraine (Law No. 6175), which completely suppressed the existence of a second citizenship. The document includes two main points:
Having a second citizenship in Ukraine is not possible. Unified citizenship is considered Ukrainian.
Upon receipt of documents of another state, an individual remains a citizen of Ukraine.

[Nevsky_ZU]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

And it’s not shameful to wear a rag, and even in Israel?

Under this flag Petliura arranged a pogrom of Jews in Kiev. Then like yellow was at the top, and blue at the bottom. But in any case, this is Ukraine, and he has a hero in history like Bandera.

[Lord of the Sith]

That's it. Wearing this under flag of a frankly Nazi state in the Jewish state is somehow cynical.

[shahor]

Let's not get into the affairs of a foreign country. Let Israeli citizens wear what they want at home. We behave like that at home? I apologize for the edifying tone.

[Lord of the Sith]

Why not fit in? So that later they do not drive, they say Russia is to blame for this?
But they can turn everything upside down.

[shahor]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

Why not fit in? So that later they do not drive, they say Russia is to blame for this?

And then do not be offended when they get into you.

[777-3-59-97]

Under this flag Petliura arranged a pogrom of Jews in Kiev

And under the Russian flag, the Vlasovites killed civilians and Soviet soldiers. And then?

[Theodore]

And the Vlasovites "gherroi" !? Maybe glory to them?

[rruvim]

How would you behave? 1942 or 43? You were taken prisoner. You are from the village (3 classes of education), you have not even seen a tractor live, only horses. Only after the call did they see cars, tanks, and other achievements of mankind for the destruction of their own kind. In captivity, you were not fed, and almost never watered. And then a Soviet general appears (about whom the commissar told you that he is a hero in Stalin's eyes) and says in pure Russian that freedom, equality and brotherhood await you (the commissars also spoke about this). Where to go to this hungry, half-educated, country boy? So the Vlasovskaya ROA recruited almost 300000 men. Blame them for treason? Who? Homeland or oath? If they could not read the oath. By 1941, Stalin could not defeat the general illiteracy in the countryside and in the villages (and there was no task). The Trotskyist slogan: "The peasantry is a hostile class" survived until the end of Khrushchev. So it is necessary to separate: Vlasov himself and the "Vlasovites". By the way, they fought only on the Western Front, and I will generally keep silent about their role in the liberation of Prague.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: rruvim

. Where to go to this hungry, half-educated, country boy? So Vlasov ROA and scored almost 300000 men.

soldiers of not all armies for food massively betrayed their country.

[Leopold]

I’ll support Dmitry, not all of the stew was bought in a bowl. Homeland is more expensive.

[Nevsky_ZU]

Quote: 777-3-59-97

Under this flag Petliura arranged a pogrom of Jews in Kiev

And under the Russian flag, the Vlasovites killed civilians and Soviet soldiers. And then?

Vlasov was not until 1917, when it was RI. This is an armed detachment with a patch of a non-existent country during the Second World War, which was in the structure of the armed forces of Nazi Germany. Vlasov is convicted and is not a hero both in modern historiography of the Russian Federation from school to the Academy, and in modern Russia at the level of all authorities from the municipal level to the Federal. If someone in his kitchen hung a portrait of Vlasov, then I'm sorry.

[Antares]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Vlasov is convicted and is not a hero both in modern historiography of the Russian Federation from school to the Academy, and in modern Russia at the level of all authorities from the municipal level to the Federal. If someone in his kitchen hung a portrait of Vlasov, then I'm sorry.

sorry

As for the first, it’s excusable because before the betrayal
During these battles, the fighters and commanders of the 20 Army showed dedication and courage, and General Vlasov skillfully commanded them, for which 24 of January 1942 was awarded the Order of the Red Banner and promoted to lieutenant general.
Mazepa also faithfully served Peter. But something in Russia does not see this. Remember only treason. And numerous works for the glory of Russia and Orthodoxy - there wasn’t such ...
and Vlasov’s heroism before and after treason.

[rruvim]

We are all humans. And in difficult times we make decisions that characterize us. But difficult. At a critical moment or week, we are forced to make a decision that changes everything. For a person, for example, to leave his family, for a general to "spit" on the oath. The first is forgivable, the second "sentence". I mean that Mr. Vlasov was executed correctly. He "deserves it." The fact that he was charged with non-existent crimes is not correct. For me, the argument is this: if you were already an anti-Stalinist and a Russian liberator-patriot in your heart, what the hell did you drive the 2nd shock arm into these swamps? Would have shown courage and heroism, would have spat in the face of this Zhukov (who fucked everything up). Why build a Russian (not Soviet) patriot in captivity? Did you come to your senses at the last moment? I don’t believe ... I ruined almost 250 thousand of my army, but did I come to my senses in captivity? I do not believe!

[garrett]

sorry

huh))))) Well, you don’t write that the monument was erected in New York City ?????
This is a monument to the leaders and participants of the Liberation Movement of the Peoples of Russia 1941-1945. Novo-Diveevo. New York State. USA

[Okolotochny]

And where is the second monument installed? Give a place? And it smells of purely Ukrainian propaganda provocation.

[Leopold]

The NKVD was disbanded, and their "wards" are flourishing.

[Dart]

what kind of liar are you, however, without comments, such as implying that it is in Russia, but I'm not surprised ... and they found a picture with flags .... but nothing that your patrons in the states have installed?

[garrett]

how did you get with your fakes))) already learn the materiel ... the flag of the ROA was the Andreev flag. the tricolor tried to use the 15 Cossack cavalry corps ss, but in the end they salted tuna and even they (volunteers, white emigrants) were not allowed to do this

[Incvizitor]

And that Vlasov marching in the center of Moscow? Vlasovites in Moscow seized power?

[Zeev Zeev]

And in the Soviet press this flag was in cartoons with the Israeli

[Terenin]

Israel has historically been a convenient route for US and CIA presidents to circumvent congressional bans on helping various foul-smelling groups and governments.
Israeli military assistance to Ukraine and neo-Nazis is similar to the same program of the USA and other NATO countries, including England and Canada.
They are so obsessed with the alleged Russian threat that they are happy to help open Nazis - if only they were on their side.
Do Jews have a short memory? Even the English newspaper The Telegraph, "Russians in black" writes Biletsky's statement that “the historical mission of our nation at this critical moment is to lead the white races on the last crusade for survival. Crusade against subhumans led by the Semites "

[novel66]

gene it’s obvious that it’s so shitty in Israel with manpower ... they close their eyes to anything just to ascribe a fighting unit

[Terenin]

Quote: novel xnumx

gene it’s obvious that it’s so shitty in Israel with manpower ... they close their eyes to anything just to ascribe a fighting unit

Novel
A combat "unit" is considered after the battle, and after the robbery of civilians, in the South-East of Ukraine, such lads, the wording can be chosen only from the Criminal Code.

[novel66]

in Israel they will not be spoiled, but you can also rob Arabs

[Antares]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

But in any case, this is Ukraine, and he has a hero in history like Bandera.

how is it that there hasn’t been Ukraine, and even no, it’s all Russia!
Decide at last something or all that was Ukraine. Or is it Russia despite Mazepa, Bandera, Petliur, etc.
and then everything is good for yourself - and you all that’s left ..

[Lord of the Sith]

They chose the wrong side of the force ...

[vkl.47]

As Kalamoisky says Ms. Obanderovets.

[Normal ok]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

And it’s not shameful to wear a rag, and even in Israel?

Not. It is shameful to suck every little thing concerning Ukraine, while ignoring their own problems.

[svp67]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

And it’s not shameful to wear a rag, and even in Israel?

No, it’s not shameful for them. And with what flag should he show the country from where he arrived? He was clearly born already under this flag.

[Xnumx vis]

And the casket just opened .. In Israel, they train a soldier from Svido Ukrainy ..

[Chaldon48]

These are probably "refugees" from the Square, rushed to their historical homeland.

[Fedor Sokolov]

It is not surprising if you take into account the fact that Israel has long been reviving Khazaria in Ukraine. Ukraine will become the second homeland for all Jews.

[Zeev Zeev]

Was Khazaria in the territory of modern Ukraine?

[lucul]

Was Khazaria in the territory of modern Ukraine?

What innocent questions))))
And who founded Kiev then? )))

[Zeev Zeev]

Kiev, according to legend, was founded by Kiy. But Khazaria was born in the Caucasus, developed in the interfluve of the Volga and the Don, and the capital Itil was somewhere near Astrakhan.

[marshes]

Quote: Fyodor Sokolov

It is not surprising if you take into account the fact that Israel has long been reviving Khazaria in Ukraine. Ukraine will become the second homeland for all Jews.

You missed the Khazars, geographically it is the land of the Nogais and Adays. Temperament, so they could ....

[Thrifty]

Double standards, for Israel, it’s in the order of things-to scream to the whole world about the Holocaust, and support the nationalist ukroinu. ... israel, in a word. ...

[Thrifty]

For lovers from Israel to sprinkle saliva in my address, why are you so blind, you don't see Nazi subdivisions ukroiny "Azov" and "Aydar" for years in a row, why is your Israel generally silent on this topic? ??

[777-3-59-97]

And why didn’t the sun rune please you?

[Lipchanin]

The rune itself is nothing

[lucul]

And why didn’t the sun rune please you?

What a funny arrogance ....)))
So the Germans have this swastika - and is banned in almost all countries. But for Ukrainians - it's just ... it's just a rune of the sun ... Yes?

[Alexey RA]

Quote: 777-3-59-97

And why didn’t the sun rune please you?

Yes Yes Yes... it is they who do not zig, but salute the sun.

[Zeev Zeev]

Strange, but in the Nazi kind of "Azov" there are quite a few Jews. And even Israeli ones.

[Honest Citizen]

Strange, but in the Nazi kind of "Azov" there are quite a few Jews. And even Israeli ones.

When the "Jewish pogroms" start again, and they will go, the Nazis have only this way, then there is no need to "scream like a victim" ...
In general, a Nazi Jew is even symbolic, I would say ...
PS For moderators. Read the Bible, the Old Testament. If there is at least one crime that the Jews would not have committed, I will be MUCH surprised.

[Zeev Zeev]

And why should there be Jewish pogroms?

[Honest Citizen]

Guess yourself. Give me at least one nationalist state with a history of at least a hundred years, well, except for Israel (they haven’t made it to a hundred yet, but the Arabs are “crushed” to the fullest), where there were no “Jewish” pogroms.

[Zeev Zeev]

Hmm. I will leave aside "the Jews pinch the Arabs." And why is Ukraine a nationalist state? Azerbaijan and Armenia are completely nationalistic states, but no one touches the Jews there.

[Honest Citizen]

How old are these states? This is the time.
By the way, Armenian Jews are not just a phrase, they still exist ... So in 10-15 years there will be "the guilty ones". But at the expense of Azerbaijan - I'm not sure if there are any Jews there at all.
Now in Ukraine. And she is not a nationalist state in this period of time? Those. in Ukraine, you can safely declare loudly - am I Russian? (they will take the rest, but Russians - never By the way, if it weren’t for one skin color, he would call racism)
Or do you think that if Odessa is "Ukraine" (IMHO: Odessa is generally the property of UNESCO), and Jews live there, and they are not "touched", is this an indicator? Wake up.
Yes, not everyone has switched to mov. But the way it is planted makes you think.
Although, you, from Israel, know better.

[Zeev Zeev]

There are many Jews in Azerbaijan. Azerbaijanis even have a Jewish grave on the Alley of Martyrs (this is a memorial to the heroes of the Karabakh war).
By the way, quite recently, Russian national Klimkin was quite a foreign minister in nationalist Ukraine.

[Professor]

Quote: Honest Citizen

Armenian Jews, by the way, are not just a phrase, but there are ...

There are no such. There has never been a Jewish community in Armenia. There is not a single Jewish cemetery. Only in 1990's arrived Jews tried to organize themselves.

Quote: Honest Citizen

But at the expense of Azerbaijan, I’m not sure if there are any Jews there.

There are Jews of Azerbaijan who live well.

Quote: Honest Citizen

Now in Ukraine. And she is not a nationalist state in this period of time? Those. in Ukraine, you can safely declare loudly - am I Russian? (they will take the rest, but Russians - never By the way, if it weren’t for one skin color, he would call racism)

Elementary. In Nikolaev, for example, the Russian Drama Theater acts on state money. In which regional center of the Russian Federation is the Ukrainian Drama Theater?

Quote: Honest Citizen

Or do you think that if Odessa is "Ukraine" (IMHO: Odessa is generally the property of UNESCO), and Jews live there, and they are not "touched", is this an indicator? Wake up.

Odessa is Ukraine. There are Ukrainian laws and children in schools study in Ukrainian.

Quote: Honest Citizen

Yes, not everyone has switched to mov. But the way it is planted makes you think.

And they will not cross. They do not rape anyone with mob. Speak what language you want. Though in Kiev, even in Lviv.

Quote: Honest Citizen

Although, you, from Israel, know better.

Our country is small and we travel a lot and often abroad. Ukraine is now a popular destination. Especially in the fall.

[werevolf75]

Clever, but ...

[rruvim]

Why is the Jewish community needed in Armenia? The Armenians themselves are Jews, one of ten lost tribes. Yes, they adopted Christianity, but for us the Orthodox are considered heretics (monophysites).
In the Talmud (Kiddush., 72a) Samuel includes the locality Meshech (Armenia) in the Midian cities, where the Assyrian king Salmanassar resettled Israeli captives (II Tsar., 18, 11).

[Antares]

Quote: Honest Citizen

Those. in Ukraine, you can safely declare loudly - am I Russian? (they will take the rest, but Russians - never By the way, if it weren’t for one skin color, he would call racism)

depending on how and where. You can generally be Russian. But if you are a Russian and poke the Russian Federation everywhere, then you can provoke anything. Similarly in the Russian Federation. Watching where and to whom to poke that you are Ukrainian ..
Russians ethnically compactly live in Ukraine as an indigenous people. I saw social advertisements with Russians (Russians stubbornly write in Ukrainian anyway, although it’s about Russians) on Ukrainian channels. (This phrase - I'm Russian / I'm Russian looks funny of course)

[Okolotochny]

Yeah, especially compact in Donbass. And you (your power) are trying to "condense" them more there.

[Leopold]

Alexey, this plate does not have the main thing - there are no local ones. There are no Ukrainians in Ukraine ... let everyone else decide for themselves.

[marshes]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

Strange, but in the Nazi kind of "Azov" there are quite a few Jews. And even Israeli ones.

There, on the flag of Azov, Rune Wolfsangel, in general, the roof went to the attributes of the SS.

[Zeev Zeev]

We are not going to talk about the symbolism of armed groups from BOTH parties to the conflict in the Donbass? And then there the whole RNE battalion is hanging out.

[Antares]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

And then there the whole RNE battalion is hanging out.

about them do not write articles revealing. About the Milchakovs, too, they will not write the words of the worst ..
Double standards are everywhere ..
By the way, I didn't even know about Russian nationalists and other "Natsiks" from the Russian Federation, in general, I blindly believed that it only lives in Ukraine ..
it happens if you watch only Russian channels ...

[lucul]

but in the Nazi kind of "Azov" there are quite a few Jews. And even Israeli.

Are there other Jews? )))

[Zeev Zeev]

There are others. American, Russian, French, Ukrainian, even Iranian. This is no Syrian or Lebanese Jews. Or Iraqi. Judenfrey has long been there.

[lucul]

There are others

You can’t be a little pregnant - either a Jew or not.
And then they invent - French, American - it's like a Negro blond ...

[Zeev Zeev]

Blacks are quite blondes themselves. A Jew can have citizenship of any country

[Incvizitor]

Strange, but in the Nazi kind of "Azov" there are quite a few Jews.

But is Nazism when only Jews are oppressed?

[Zliy_mod]

Well, if the Ukrainian people are the goal for profit, then you can sponsor the Natsik army.

[777-3-59-97]

support nationalist Ukraine

For God's sake, stop watching Russian television. Give me at least one nationalist in Ukraine who has political or economic weight.

[Nevsky_ZU]

Quote: 777-3-59-97

support nationalist Ukraine

For God's sake, stop watching Russian television. Give me at least one nationalist in Ukraine who has political or economic weight.

And what's the point if in Ukraine the whole society has shifted to the right? Prior to 2014, Bandera was considered the hero of the Freedom party, and Yatsenyuk and Tymoshenko (the Popular Front and the Fatherland) maintained neutrality, center. But the Communists and the Party of Regions were against it. Today, the Communists in Ukraine are banned, and the PR is dispersed. And all other parties, like Zelensky, consider Bandera a Hero, like Tymoshenko, and others. Do not understand this, it is pretending to .....

[vladcub]

Nevsky, before the revolution, the RSDLP was also banned, but WORKED underground. Does the Ukrainian Communist Party work?
PR was still ruling and was the only one, and then scattered: a part could support Petrushka and Co., there are always shifters: remember the story, Philip Orleansky, Kirill Vladimirovich, essays, Raskolnikov, Yeltsin. Some regions have created the United Opposition.
My opinion: it all depends on the leader: if an ideological person remains among the leaders of their Communist Party, he will drive up the same people and fight

[Honest Citizen]

Give me at least one nationalist in Ukraine who has political or economic weight.

Interesting ... In Germany, before 1933 - Himler, Goering, Hess, Bormann, Ribbentrop - had any "political weight"?
Of course, you learned a new training manual, there are no words, but you don’t need to powder your brains.
Nationalism is the essence of an emotional crowd. And she needs ONE leader. By the way, Remm, and suffered because of this :)
So your words, may the ignoramus not listen. And with those who know history and can build causal relationships, alas, you can’t compete ... And manuals will not help.

[777-3-59-97]

Nationalism is the essence of an emotional crowd. And she needs ONE leader.

Yes Yes. For many years now I have heard about reviving or already reviving fascism in Ukraine. About the Nazi junta, which at the first request of the people, without firing a shot, resigned. And you can criticize power there mercilessly and you will not be imprisoned for disrespect for power. Can you imagine? Such are the Nazis today.
And do not reproach me for not knowing the story. Kiselev and Solovyov speak your words, so watch your training manuals.
.

[Honest Citizen]

Kiselev and Solovyov speaks in your words, so it’s not for you to speak for manuals.

You can believe it, you can not - your right. I do not look at the first or the second, nor do I adore, as individuals.

For many years now I have heard about reviving or already reviving fascism in Ukraine.

"Bandera and Shukhevych are heroes of Ukraine!" - find the video on YouTube. Along with the "exploits" of the latter.

About the Nazi junta, which at the request of the people, without firing a shot, resigned.

The first demand of the people was voiced in the 2014 year - the result is a war in the Donbass.

And you can criticize power there mercilessly and you will not be imprisoned for disrespect for power. Can you imagine? Such are the Nazis today.

We confuse permissiveness and opposition? :)

[Alexey RA]

Quote: 777-3-59-97

About the Nazi junta, which at the first request of the people, without firing a shot, resigned.

And we even know in which country this people lives.
Or have you forgotten how the Chocolate King wanted to postpone the elections, having organized a provocation with the subsequent introduction of an emergency - and where did he come from after that?

Quote: 777-3-59-97

And you can criticize power there mercilessly and you will not be imprisoned for disrespect for power. Can you imagine?

Of course they won't. Two masked men with a TT come up to you - and that’s all over.
Oh yes, the new government was very fond of Maidan.

No, these are not "Rosgvardia atrocities". This is the work of the new democratic police of a free Ukraine.

[kiril1246]

Quote: 777-3-59-97

In your words says Kiselev

I wonder how public is excited about some Israeli chevron. And the fact that the main propagandist of Russian TV daily talks about Nazi Ukraine in the recent past was a Svidomo Ukrainian patriot, they are absolutely not interested. Well this is how much it is necessary to have washed heads.

[Okolotochny]

Former speaker of your Council.

[Incvizitor]

When they walk in the center of the country in thousands and the authorities do nothing with it, it already demonstrates a minimum of tolerance for fascism.

[andrewkor]

And who doubted the ancient origin of the ruins here? Here is the proof of where you come from, the enta nation has gone!
It remains to put on an embroidered shirt and harem pants!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: andrewkor

It remains to put on an embroidered shirt and harem pants!

Is the trident enough?

[Avior]

Confused. I thought the president is a Jew, then Israel

[Mavrikiy]

A photo of an Israeli soldier with a chevron in the form of the flag of Ukraine is discussed on the web

And sho priapalis, the priest shot at you, helped, ran across helped those, again zrobil, and training for me.

[Lipchanin]

As an example: the Naval Academy of St. Petersburg is a cadet from Saudi Arabia, on whose sleeve the flag of the kingdom is sewn.

As these?

[anjey]

The network discusses a photograph taken in Israel. She is wearing an Israeli soldier, on whose sleeve a military uniform is visible a patch in the form of the Ukrainian flag with a trident.

It is interesting with the Russian tricolor there somebody defiles too ??? percent 30% of the Russian open spaces how to give drink, not counting Ukraine and Belarus .....

[vladcub]

I will say more: EVERYTHING was sent - Israeli ministers or immigrants from Russia or their descendants

[Zeev Zeev]

Of all the prime ministers of Israel, only the father of Ehud Olmert was born in Russia (Buguruslan). All the rest come from Belarus, Poland, Ukraine.

[AU Ivanov.]

Have come. Apparently, soon the swastika will be sewn.

[vladcub]

Vlad Telman, and who is Ernst Telman?

[Rwmos]

And the head of Ukraine Kolomoisky with Israeli citizenship does not surprise them?

[Pavel57]

The climate will change. Where is Israel moving?

[anjey]

In Birobidzhan, there will soon be PARADISE

[Gronsky]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

And it’s not shameful to wear a rag, and even in Israel?

What is shameful here? On the contrary, they are proud that they will soon make Israel a protectorate from unhappy Ukraine. This should be embarrassing for Russia that it allowed itself to carry on such a bloody Malanian scam.

[rocket757]

Also a topic for me .... it's their business!
Let them at home and discuss.

[E.S.]

Oh, class, then those who left Germany at the end of the 30x had to wear a swastika on their sleeves!

[vladcub]

Judge by yourself?

[musketon64]

From Russia flee ?! But it’s nothing that there are millions of 15 migrants from all over the former Soviet Union in Russia, and they are also in line for citizenship, including from democratic Ukraine and Georgia. And yes, maybe I missed something --- the Jews Pozner, Gozman and Makarevich, too, fled to Israel away from the bloody regime?

[Okolotochny]

Um ... as if not to swear. So we are SLAVES? So what are you ..... sitting on a "slave resource"? And in "normal countries" - that is, Russia is not a normal country? Well, a bunch of minus-miners in this article are ordinary Jewish-hoh la .. nationalists. They fled for 40 varieties of sausages - the wind is in your back.

[E.S.]

Quote: Gronsky

Quote: Lord of the Sith

And it’s not shameful to wear a rag, and even in Israel?

What is shameful here? On the contrary, they are proud that they will soon make Israel a protectorate from unhappy Ukraine. This should be embarrassing for Russia that it allowed itself to carry on such a bloody Malanian scam.

Dneprovsky Kaganate!

[E.S.]

Quote: vladcub

Vlad Telman, and who is Ernst Telman?

Their four brothers, also Konstantin Ernst and Telman Ismailov, are all brothers!

[vladcub]

I know Ernst Thalmann, the leader of the German Communists, and others I purple

[APASUS]

Why Benya Kolomoisky can support the Nazis in Ukraine, and ordinary citizens of Israel can not? So everything is fine

[Piramidon]

Your mom. And I got a minus here because I allowed to doubt that in Israel all immigrants from the "nezalezhnoy" are patriots and celebrate "Victory Day"

[alex4aa]

Jewish Bandera is nonsense, because the real bandera of the first Jews was beaten, this also proves that the Kiev authorities have no ideologies, that is, Ukraine is simply robbed by power and oligarchs

[ljoha_d]

Modern Israel is where fascism

[Rabioso]

This is bullshit. It just can't be. He would have been stopped by a military police patrol and taken away both him and his commander. Well, you certainly don’t know this, and buy an ordinary divorce

[APASUS]

Quote: Rabioso

This is bullshit. It just can't be. He would have been stopped by a military police patrol and taken away both him and his commander. Well, you certainly don’t know this, and buy an ordinary divorce

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As far as I understand, Vlad Telman is a well-known Israeli photographer, maybe ask your people about zephole

[vladcub]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

Of all the prime ministers of Israel, only the father of Ehud Olmert was born in Russia (Buguruslan). All the rest come from Belarus, Poland, Ukraine.

They ALL come from the former Russian Empire

[Antares]

Quote: vladcub

They ALL come from the former Russian Empire

they are more than 100 years old ???????????
Wow centenarians ...

[Incvizitor]

Zionists and Bandera brothers for centuries.

[Dart]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

I advise you to teach the history of your country.

... said the traitor

[ultra]

Poor, he can’t decide whether he’s smart or beautiful.

[rruvim]

Telman is a good photographer. He took a picture of a kid, a reservist, who looks like a Jerusalem bum. If not for the "vintar". But Thälmann's angle is clear! Forward Outskirts towards garbage containers. This is the "look" of the Israeli photo artist.

[usr01]

P .... s everywhere enough!
PySy. Well, smart people gathered here - patriots! I meant (them)!

[rruvim]

In general, when you look at all this reservist nonsense from the IDF, the thought of "deja vu" comes to mind.
I myself watched the girl at the Jerusalem railway station, who arrived from the train to "Shabbat" with the "Tavor" rifle, which, due to the small stature of the carrier and the incorrect selection of the belt harness, beat the damper on the concrete floor. She hurried to the tram. It is clear that these are auxiliary units. But Thalmann's "trick" is good. Pants from the IDF, boots from "MAGMA", unloading from a "copter", a backpack from military sales. And a shirt from an older brother, a conscript. The most important thing! He forgot the kippah. See in Hohland while

do not wear.

[AKS-U]

Nothing sensational, if you recall how the Jews promoted in the 2014 year of Valtsman, Kapitelman, Bakay, Frotman. Go back thrust.

[dolfi1]

The most popular and fateful topic on the site: whose flag was sewn on the IDF soldier’s uniform?

But seriously, I personally do not like it. Although it must be admitted that in Ukraine there are not a few decent people, but after Bandera marches, Nazi symbols, the war, Odessa, etc., etc., I do not perceive this country. And even more so, I do not like such a patch on the form of an IDF soldier.
But since in our army you can find the flags of many countries, it is unlikely that anyone will ban the Ukrainian.

[armata_armata]

Just a Jewish fighter came from Ukraine, where the nat battalion helped the inhabitants of the eastern regions to cut, did not have time to cut the chevrons ...

[Quadro]

Why be surprised? It has long been known that Israel supports Nazi beasts in Ukraine, the latest news about aviation modernization shows this very well.

[E.S.]

Quote: nesmeshimenya03

Quote: E.S.

Oh, class, then those who left Germany at the end of the 30x had to wear a swastika on their sleeves!

At the end of the 30's, Nazi opponents left Germany anywhere, just to get away from them.
They go to Israel either from something, or where — to their Jewish country. Those who came to Israel to be a Jew in a Jewish country without escaping from Ukraine may well continue to love and support her.
That’s more often they flee from Russia, yes. And most often - anywhere, if only to hell.

This is a great sorrow

[bronek]

In Israel, there is complete indifference to symbols in the army, especially secular ones. I served in 92-95, we painted red stars on our helmets and the USSR and everyone was "cared for". And to the soldiers and the command

[Incvizitor]

And if you would draw a swastika?

[bronek]

But for the swastika would definitely be punished

[iouris]

"A real Ukrainian" - he is a "real Ukrainian" in Israel, ATO - it is also ATO in Israel.

[kig]

It is amazing what the question of the patch on the sleeve can lead to. It would seem, who cares if the Israeli army is allowed? No, we definitely need to go through the Jews, and at the same time catch the Ukrainians and Poles. Just unbelieveble. It’s his boots that haven’t been discussed yet, but there’s also a bronik ... but there’s no end at all. Go ahead!

[iouris]

Quote: kig

who cares if the Israeli army is allowed?

Indeed, ... who cares if both "trident" and "wolf's hook" and "swastika" and T-shirts "I am a Yynichnaya Bandera" or "Jew Bandera" are allowed?

[kig]

no need to juggle, this is not about a T-shirt and swastikas.

[1536]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

Collaborators in Russia got into the Cossack Stan and two SS divisions. And on ROA in addition. Or have you already forgotten this part of the story?

As of April 1945, the ROA included 120-130 of thousands of Vlasov residents.
During World War II, 29 574 900 people were called up to the ranks of the Red Army. (On 22 June 1941, the Red Army served 4 826 907 soldiers and commanders). By the end of the war, there were 11 million people in the Armed Forces of the USSR.
It is easy to calculate that the percentage of traitors was thus less than 1,5% at the end of the war. Moreover, among the Vlasovites there were mainly those who could not endure the conditions of detention in German and Polish concentration camps, which can be understood humanly. Such a number of traitors could not have any influence on the development of events at the front, to which, however, the Germans did not allow the Vlasovites, considering them unreliable. Moreover, the propaganda of General Vlasov could not have any effect on the internal situation in Soviet Russia.
So it’s not worth talking about collaborators in Russia during the war, as an influential force, since their influence was insignificant in those years, our people can’t stand betrayal. This is more a topic of closed dissertations on historical topics than a topic of public discussion in society. Although, of course, today some activists would like it to be the other way around and are trying in every possible way to inflate this issue.

[Plate]

As an example: the Naval Academy of St. Petersburg is a cadet from Saudi Arabia, on whose sleeve the flag of the kingdom is sewn.

I want to see it!

[Shura Wii]

Jewish Nazis, this is normal, they are still terrorists and aggressors ... Well, the poor-minded yavreichik whose ancestors from Zhmerynka slipped into Israel, I must tell you, he’s down))

[silver169]

What's so surprising? Ho.ol is sold to anyone for a piece of bacon.