The complex and incomprehensible future of transport aviation

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What is happening today around the Russian transport aviation causes a very dual sensation. To put it mildly, a complete mess, and in everything: forecasts, numbers, statements, official communications.





This is at least a concern, because if there is such a mess in their heads, then what really happens on the ground?

Let's start with information on the creation of the Russian super-heavy military transport aircraft.

In general, the trend of recent years is cool to promise, and then quietly keep quiet about the fulfillment of their obligations. So many reports that by two thousand ... the eleventh year we will have something that will make the whole world shudder ...

And before this “eleventh” year it is still necessary to survive, perhaps no one will remember what was promised loudly there today.

And today, our Minister of Industry and Trade, Denis Manturov, in an interview with Interfax, says that it turns out that the Ilyushin Design Bureau is in full swing developing the Russian version of the An-124 Ruslan super-heavy aircraft, which is called the An-124-100M.

Do you understand everything? For example, not all of me. So it turns out that what he heard raises a bunch of questions.

Firstly, why does the Russian plane, which is being created at the Russian Design Bureau of Ilyushin, have not the Russian Il index, but the Ukrainian An? We have already observed the reaction of the Ukrainian side (incidentally, quite logical) with a protest in this regard.

It’s the same as calling the “Grant” the “Passat,” because of this, it won’t go like a Volkswagen.

Secondly. Is this project of An-124-100M still incomprehensible by reason, does it have anything to do with the development of the so-called STVTS (almost like PAK YES), that is, an “extra-heavy military transport aircraft”, which was intended to replace Ruslanov?

And what is the current state of development? Or development?

Since the versions lie a little on different planes, it seems that the minister does not completely own the situation.

Turn back a little along the time line.

Just a year ago, Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov, who is known to us as a specialist in ambiguous statements, said that even research on this topic has not yet begun. And that work on a superheavy aircraft at Ilyushin Design Bureau will begin in accordance with the state armament program after the 2025 year, that is, at the end of the GPV for the 2018-2027 years.

This, by the way, was understandable. The beginning of development at the end of one GPV in order to already plan normal financing of research and development in the new program.

And suddenly such a pitch!

In May of this year, it suddenly became known that, it turns out, research work on STVTS have already been successfully completed! Moreover, R&D has begun and is successfully moving forward and up!

And it’s okay, Borisov said this, no, all of this can be easily read on the website of BC Ilyushin. In the annual report.

“As part of the development work on the creation of STVTS, the pre-contract work phase has been completed, a state contract has been concluded for the implementation of the 3-5 stages of the development work of STVTS.


Somehow it's not entirely clear, right?

June 2019 of the year. Information from Nikolai Talikov, General Designer of Design Bureau Ilyushin. Talikov says that the company is starting to create a new aircraft to replace the An-124. And he should be ready for the 2025-2026 years, as this is predetermined by the deadlines set by the Ministry of Defense.

On the one hand, the timing of this is fully consistent with the above. But in essence ...

But in fact, let's seriously think about which aircraft Talikov is talking about? About the mythical and incomprehensible An-124-100M, which, perhaps, exists only in the plans of Manturov and Borisov, or about IL-106?

I am sure that Talikov speaks of IL-106, the chief designer of which he, in fact, is.

But IL-106 is not AN-124-100! This is a completely different aircraft, which, although it is being built as part of the project to replace the Ruslan, but it is another plane!

By the way, not burdened with Ruslan’s problems, for in Ukraine it is categorically against naming the Russian aircraft by the Ukrainian name, plus here our refusal of “service” service on the Antonov’s here also means that An-124-100 in the future may get restrictions on flights over the same Europe.

But back from politics to airplanes. And then the question arises: whom to believe? And the second: so what about the plane?

It turns out that the words of Manturov and Talikov diverge at such an angle that inevitably someone is suspected of insincerity.

After all, the An-124-100 is in fact a glider from the Ukrainian Ruslan, in which it is planned to replace the engines and avionics with Russian ones. IL-106 is completely our machine. But the other. Which will not depend on unstable neighbors in terms of spare parts and accessories.

By the way, I also have doubts about the normal service from Antonov. At the same time with their losses in terms of qualified personnel.

IL-106, on which Ilyushin has been working since the beginning of the 90's, is becoming easier. And Ilyushin’s trust is an order of magnitude greater than that of Antonov. Even despite the fact that Antonov specialized in large-capacity aircraft. All this is in fact a thing of the past.

And therefore, I will not hide the fact that I do not like the option called An-124-100 much less than the Il-106.

Indeed, if you believe the numbers, the IL-106 is not inferior to the An-124 in anything, the declared parameters are about the same in terms of range and in terms of carrying capacity.

But there is a problem. Unfortunately, I very often mentioned her in historical materials, but here, and here everything is the same. No engine.

An-124 has it. D-18Т, developed in Zaporizhzhya Design Bureau "Progress". And produced there, in Zaporozhye, at the Zaporizhzhya Engineering Plant, which today is a structural unit of Motor Sich.

Unfortunately, we currently have an engine capable of providing traction in 24 000 kgf or so, like the D-18T does not.

Yes, in Samara they worked on the NK-93, which should be slightly weaker than the DT-18T, but in the tests it produced a power much higher than the declared one. In Perm, we worked on the most powerful PD-35, which was made on the basis of the PD-14, but in the end, there’s still a stop.

But the Samara engine, despite the lower rated power, had an equally important advantage over the Ukrainian engine. There is such an indicator as the bypass ratio. This is the ratio of the volume of air passing through the external circuit and creating traction to the volume of air entering the combustion chamber. The higher the bypass ratio, the higher the engine efficiency. For NK-93 it is 16,6 versus 5,6 for DT-18T.

But, apparently, we lost NK-93 as such. Somewhere in history. And from the fact that there is, alas, the rest are all inferior in power. And PS-90A (16 tons), and PD-14 (18 tons) when it is finished. Plus, the PD-14 has already lined up from Kaliningrad to Perm. Many need him. Manufacturers of MS-21, and Tu-204, and IL-276, and IL-76MD-90A, and ... IL-106 are counting on this engine.

True, there is still some kind of engine. I will quote Nikolay Talikov again:

“To date, the United Engine Corporation has also begun work on our aircraft (IL-106. - Approx. Aut.) And is creating engines with thrust of 24-26 tons.”


Again a mountain of questions. What company? Where? How far have the work progressed?

There are questions, no answers. True, there are voiced deadlines. 2025 year. And that’s all.

I suspect that the “secret” engine is the PD-35. Work on it seems to be going on, and this is exactly the engine that could solve the problem of a heavy transport aircraft, it does not matter, Ana or Ila.

However, just a month ago, from the mouth of the general designer of Perm Motors, Alexander Inozemtsev, the following was heard:

“An An-124 Ruslan heavy transport aircraft may receive a domestic engine in the future. It will not be a PD-35, another engine, but from this family. ”


And how can this be understood?

There is so far only PD-14. There is its modification PD-18P (18 tons of traction). On the basis of PD-14 they are trying to make PD-35. It is he, and not PD-14 / 18, that is suitable for Il-106, for An-124. It is this engine that they are waiting for in Ilyushin Design Bureau.

But it turns out that PD-35 can not wait? Strange ...

In Samara, in the same Kuznetsov Design Bureau, where they developed the NK-93, they seem to have begun work on an engine for PAK DA. They called this work “Product of the Russian Federation”. Since the PAK DA is planned to be subsonic, in theory the engine will fit into the PAK TA (transport aviation) program.

But how much time will pass until the NK-32 is sawed in Samara, on the basis of which a new engine is created? NK-32 is a long-mastered and familiar Tu-160 engine. Supersonic with afterburner. Rumor has it that the power of this engine will be somewhere between 18 and 30 tons. In principle, enough if everything is really in the middle, but ...

When are we planning to move on PAK YES? Right, by the end of the next GPV program. That is, after 10 years.

Will the An-124 survive? I doubt it. And the work must be completed by the 2025 year. Again, something does not converge in the testimony.

What do we have in the end?

As a result, we have several responsible persons (from the chief designer to the minister and deputy prime minister) who cannot really agree on what they are voicing.

In the future, we have two transport aircraft (An-124-100 and Il-106) that need engines. And there are engines that are not suitable for these aircraft. That is, PS-90 and PD-14. And engines that could come up if they existed in nature. This is NK-73, PD-35 and this incomprehensible new one.

But even superficially comprehending what is happening, you begin to understand that if officials of such a high rank do not have a picture of the future in their heads, then, accordingly, transport aviation is not expected in the future.

Complete confusion cannot produce a meaningful result, no matter what you say to the cameras. And alas, this is our reality today.

So, probably, you should not wait for the implementation of these strange plans regarding heavy transport aircraft for military aircraft. At least until our leaders come to a single decision about what needs to be done.

And only then do the words have a chance to become a real thing. And not before.
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  1. +2
    5 September 2019 05: 40
    After the funeral, sorry, the sharp oblivion of "Clipper", it became clear that promises have nothing to do with their implementation in reality. Advertising, PR technologies and cutting money, no more. Such projects are innumerable ...
    1. +4
      5 September 2019 13: 01
      Smart people have long been saying that you don’t have to laugh with Ukraine, because present Ukraine looks like Russia will look in the future ...
      1. +3
        6 September 2019 09: 34
        present-day Ukraine looks like Russia looked in the 90s.
    2. +2
      5 September 2019 15: 43
      Clipper, in fact, was a project that was not very useful in such a version as it was born, plus it appeared in 200. Remind you how much money and resources we had? It would not have been accepted for PR performance at all if the Europeans had not become interested in it. I think they began to design it with such a load-bearing body, taking into account the interest of ESA (they had developed the same Hermes apparatus until 93) They even insisted that wings are needed for greater maneuver (of course, the population in Europe is denser than in Kazakhstan, do not let God will sit in the village) Which led to the heavier apparatus. Well, in general, in this form, neither we nor the Europeans needed it.

      But he has a direct descendant. KK Federation. For amateurs, of course, it seems that since it does not look ala like an airplane, unlike a clipper, it’s a regress. In fact, this is the same reusable device. For the current year 2019, the first test ship is already being assembled
      1. +5
        5 September 2019 18: 13
        You see, not an amateur. Well then, tell me as a professional about a whole galaxy of launch vehicles that, from now on, have been / were in: design / development / production / testing and what came of it ... And at the same time about the Russian space program of the year from 2004 to this day. And most importantly - how it evolved ... And then somehow the great desire to ask all these questions to the professional, but somehow you don’t know where to find him ... In the afternoon with fire, as they say, and here - such a fortune.
        1. +3
          5 September 2019 20: 18
          Quote: Pavel_N
          You I see, not an amateur

          You see, they were offended, although the amateur was not applicable to you, but had in general appearance on the network. Write a detailed list of reluctance. Although of course I know not much has been done due to lack of money.
          Here and the ISS contribution, and the Angara, and the eastern spaceport, a modification of the Soyuz rocket. New modifications of the Soyuz ship. Unsuccessful due to a Phobos-Grunt error but the attempt is not torture. Radio telescopes are the most powerful Spectrum. GLONASS grouping. The only one besides the American satellite system of this class (Galileo and the Chinese are more local) Here comes the finalization of the Federation, the Soyuz rockets.

          Is it possible or would like more? Of course, what are we talking about. And there are a lot of mistakes, and they are headaches. But what to do, not everything is smooth.
          1. +2
            5 September 2019 20: 24
            Do you know what's the funniest thing? The plan of Roskomos if I am not mistaken for 5 years or more until the year 20 that it was. Almost 100% done (yes, I saw a report on this on YouTube, I won’t find it right now, sorry)
            Of course, it was fulfilled because the plans were not great. But well done, it's me that the main message of the critic in your Comment was not that they do little, but that they promise and give up

            After the funeral, sorry, the sharp oblivion of "Clipper", it became clear that promises have nothing to do with their implementation in reality

            It happens of course, and they promised a puff. Like everyone, even the great and rich are more than we are. Can you look at plans for space exploration by Bush and Obama? There it seems to the moon, according to the first calculations of 2017, they should have returned to the moon by 19 and on the 29th. Well, wait for Mars)))
            and
            1. +1
              6 September 2019 08: 45
              Yes, I know about the Constelletion program. But the question is not how it is with them, but how it is with us. And if we compare, I will immediately say that the comparison is not in our favor. Strongly not in ours. And yes, the tendency to advertise and make promises is common. In this we are twin brothers. But the money goes very differently to the programs of "them" and "us". This is of course a significant factor. Maybe even defining. Well, can we start with this factor?
              And taking this factor into account, including competent (adequate to the real possibilities and needs of the economy) planning in the industry. Such planning, which excludes the squandering of funds on "fake" or questionable (if possible, high-quality execution) projects. Which eliminates the sudden realization by the customer that what he ordered, after some time, and considerable resources (human, time, financial, operational, etc.) turns out to be NOT NECESSARY for him. They say, throw it away and forget, there was nothing ... With this approach, (systemic, please note) it is profitable not to finish the project, because it will almost certainly be stunted, or unsuccessful, but it is profitable to start. Those. loudly announce, convince to direct cash flows in the right direction. And then .... Then there are options, as you can see for yourself. From this: "the customer expected to get something else," to: "it just didn't work out, the Chinese components, the American sanctions, etc. are to blame, emphasize the necessary."
              Tired.
        2. -2
          6 September 2019 11: 07
          Quote: Pavel_N
          You see, not an amateur. Well then, tell me as a professional about a whole galaxy of launch vehicles,

          everything is very simple - the Russian Federation is 40% of the potential of the USSR, and 70-80% of the potential of the USSR is concentrated on the territory of the Russian Federation. therefore half the potential will be lost! It's unavoidable!!!! it is a law of nature!
          ps
          imagine 10 apartment 3-storey building ... unexpectedly the owners abandoned 6 apartments ... on the shoulders of 4 families the service of 10 apartment building will fall ... in 10-20 years this house will be desolate ...
          1. 0
            6 September 2019 14: 28
            I agree that the analogy reflects the big picture. But it says nothing about the reasons for this desolation, i.e. why the owners "suddenly abandoned" their apartments.
  2. 0
    5 September 2019 07: 11
    If they saw PAK YES, then the subsonic NK-32 is logical. But what about the resource? Therefore, I put on the future PD-35.
  3. +11
    5 September 2019 07: 18
    The article is very interesting, although it is most likely suitable for the "Analytics" section.
    Since the versions lie a little on different planes, it seems that the minister does not completely own the situation.
    this is still putting it mildly, if you believe everything that is stated in the article, then there is an opinion that our aviation industry is sailing without a rudder and sails. And the reason for this, I believe, is a "qualified" management, well, a lawyer and a furniture seller cannot manage aviation and this is my firm conviction, by the way, confirmed by the article.
  4. -1
    5 September 2019 07: 50
    Or maybe the fog was launched intentionally, especially about engines?
  5. +4
    5 September 2019 07: 57
    Well, you need to think about what to count, raise official statements and so on. Just - believe it! Believe that everything will be, that everything will be fine! You will not change anything with your analytics, only spoil everyone's mood, and your pressure will rise. And if you persist, they may also be attracted for "slandering", undermining the business reputation of "respected" people by hanging noodles on your ears.
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    2. +6
      5 September 2019 08: 57
      Quote: Chestnut1
      Believe that everything will be

      1. +1
        5 September 2019 18: 05
        You can’t say better
  6. +10
    5 September 2019 08: 24
    The question is not about transport aviation at all, a similar situation is about all sectors.
    This is a systemic crisis, a crisis of the state of Russia.
    And to change the system ...... can the system allow itself to be changed ?!
    So something like this should happen .... !!!!
    It’s even scary to think about the consequences.
    1. +1
      5 September 2019 14: 29
      Quote: prior
      And to change the system ...... can the system allow itself to be changed ?!
      If about Russia, then what we have ... We have capitalism, into which we got from the other pole, when Russia, the core of the Soviet Union, was this core of a superpower, the core of the pole of socialism, independent of transnational monopolies, independent of the masters of the already established after the Second World War planetary pole of capitalism. It was impossible to surrender right away, the people would not understand, the potential from a space and nuclear missile superpower, with strong science, health care and excellent Soviet education, was too great. In addition, I wanted to squeeze out a share, somehow bargain for better conditions for the new masters of life, the newly appeared Russian "elite".

      The West "loved" Russia for the time being, until we allowed ourselves to be submissively destroyed, but colossal losses in the economy, industry, failures in science, health care and education became more and more obvious to the common people. After Bori the drunk, anyone in his place would seem a genius, and immediate duty and duty - a feat for the country. On top of that, "butting" with the West, puffing out his cheeks, raised ratings "from plinth" to euphoria of revival. They took Crimea, lost all of Ukraine, which would have been ours together with Crimea, had it not been for the dependence of our moneybags on their overseas masters. A new confrontation, but with which new money is being made.

      Will the system change? Without a doubt! Russia, as a strong and independent country, otherwise simply can not survive, not be. Russia can become strong and independent only by stepping out of a pole of power, ceasing to play by the rules of others, saying goodbye to its traitors, bourgeois boys, bad guys. At what cost this will happen, it’s hard to say, but most likely, with the participation of our army, when the bad guys get their heads in good time, they scare, show their dependent essence.
      1. -1
        6 September 2019 11: 11
        Quote: Per se.
        Will the system change? Without a doubt!

        It's not about the system!
        the point is the number of economic ties in a closed (national) economy ...
  7. +4
    5 September 2019 08: 28
    I'm afraid that during my life nothing will happen
    1. 0
      5 September 2019 12: 25
      Have you already measured the time for yourself? No, let's wait, how all this "gimp" ends. Yes
      1. 0
        6 September 2019 11: 13
        Quote: Nycomed
        No, let's wait, how all this "gimmick" ends

        why wait?
        and so everything is clear ... for those who have studied this issue.
        but for those who have not studied, he continues to wait and believe ...
  8. 0
    5 September 2019 08: 32
    And the new wide-body 929? He then, under what engines? I suspect that under the 35th. I don't think they will do many entities. The 35th is already being done, and all the dances will be around it. The Ruslan modernization will be successful, and the Il-106 will be done. Ruslans are not eternal. And you don't need to listen to officials. Yes, and a lot is classified (finally!). And then in the 90s "soul for plowing" ... Let the competitors "tense up" ...
    1. +2
      5 September 2019 09: 11
      The 929th is not yet under the PD-35, but under the American engines.
    2. +3
      5 September 2019 09: 13
      Why secret a transport car with considerable export potential? On the contrary, it should be trumpeted at every corner and advertised everywhere.
  9. AAK
    +5
    5 September 2019 08: 38
    What you will not look at in our aircraft building / engine construction - from any angle you will see only the loin portion of increased hairiness ...
    1. +2
      5 September 2019 15: 13
      Yah? Is that true?
      1. The RD-93 engines (RD-33 version from Miga-29) of the latest versions were preferred by the Pakistanis for the Chinese light fighter FC-1. A Chinese copy of the engine was sent because of no resource, etc. In general, it’s interesting for me to look at the attempts of the Chinese (and howls of our all-scooters, for example) to declare the creation of the 5th generation of aircraft, although even if you do not take into account all other technologies, they simply cannot master copies of our 4th generation engines normally. As they say gas turbine engines, the top technology is available to only a few. (unlike banal atomic energy)

      2.TV3-117, VK-2500 of all versions. One of the best engines in the world in its class. It stands on most medium-sized helicopters in the world and is also popular in aviation, and stands on ships.

      3. AL-31F. All our dryers fly on it, as well as the Chinese. And how popular our fighters are not worth mentioning.

      4.AL-41F1 Stands on the Su-35S and the initial Su-57. 80% new engine First generation 5th engine

      5. Product 30. While tested on an airplane, but this is the new heart of the Su-57. An engine with a very long future, like its ancestor Al-31F

      6. AL-55. Engine for an experienced Mig-At. But went into a series for the Indians for theirs HJT-36

      7. PD-14, the future for our aviation. It is on the basis of its gas generator that a whole new line of engines will be created. Not a project, as many here criticize our everything. But it is already flying.

      8. AI-222-25. Engine for our "school desk" Yak-130 and afterburner for the Chinese L-15

      This is all just the tip of the "increased hairiness". On new planes, it's just too lazy to write.
      And notice, on a military review for a long time only whiners in the comments remained.
      1. 0
        6 September 2019 00: 20
        To be honest, I didn’t understand why you got minuses?
        1. +1
          6 September 2019 02: 49
          For the same reason that the previous candidate has advantages. A group of dissatisfied people has been grouped on the site for a long time. Which behave as if there is a political forum
      2. AAK
        -1
        6 September 2019 08: 39
        From this "top" only 2 engines of Russian development, incl. 1 - compilation, as far as I know, with non-Russian ...
      3. +2
        6 September 2019 11: 44
        Quote: Grizli-666
        Yah? Is that true?

        and he is right and you are right!
        1. RD93 - modification of RD33 for a single-engine aircraft (RD33 Soviet engine)
        2. AL31 - (Soviet engine)
        3.TV3-117, VK-2500 - Soviet engines with production in Ukraine! the quality of Russian does not reach Ukrainian.
        4. AL41 - here is definitely an achievement!
        5. Pub. 30 - no information. may not fly.
        6. The new AL55 engine was created to replace AI222 - it turned out to be worse than AI222 ... production was given to India.
        7. PD14 - not ready.
        8. АИ222 - the development of "Progress" Ukraine, the quality of production on the "salute" leaves much to be desired (the replaced Ukrainian parts are worse in quality, as are the Chinese spare parts for AL31F)
        of the above, the achievement is only AL41F ...
        1. +1
          6 September 2019 11: 58
          reluctance to write a lot. About the Soviet start of development. So what? the Americans, as it were, also most of the beginning before the collapse of the USSR, but something does not cry)))
          1. -1
            6 September 2019 12: 12
            Quote: Grizli-666
            About the Soviet start of development. So what?

            and the fact that in modern Russia new developments are extremely difficult (there are objective reasons for this). and in fact, we can not extend our own engine for il106 / an124.
            pd14 to pull out.
          2. -1
            6 September 2019 14: 37
            Quote: Grizli-666
            the Americans, as it were, also most of the beginning before the collapse of the USSR, but something does not cry)))

            Of course they don’t cry! their production (economic) ties did not break !!! their country did not fall apart into independent states! using their petrodollar, their country allows itself not to bother with low-tech products (food / light / household products), but focus only on high-tech products!
  10. +3
    5 September 2019 09: 10
    Initial conditions - there is an An-124 fleet, what should I do with it?
    options
    - score, let it fly while there is a resource (without renewal and maintenance);
    - Ilyushin should be fully serviced, and UEC for servicing engines (if possible). Certification problems are not significant for the Air Force, but significant for the Volga-Dnepr;
    - Remotorize, change name, fully pass certification. There is no PD-35 engine, it is theoretically possible to hang 6 PS-90-. The result is a fully Russian aircraft with a certificate issued. Another 30 years to fly. To mass-produce such an aircraft or build an IL-106 depends on the design resources, the availability of free capacities in conditions of heavy utilization of Ulyanovsk and Voronezh.
  11. +4
    5 September 2019 10: 10
    And what is there to understand?

    An-100 is a project to modernize the existing Ruslans. The project is understandable and feasible.

    PAK TA, Elephant and IL-106 - incomprehensible projects, the implementation period of which is longer. Plus, having modernized all Ruslans, it will be possible to state that we will not have enough heavy aircraft and we will not produce obsolete aircraft. And we will again spend 10-15 years and money on another R&D.
  12. +1
    5 September 2019 10: 32
    Speaking about the NK-93, everyone forgets to say that it is not turbojet, but turbofan with a hood. It has a huge hood diameter, which is difficult to place under the wing of most aircraft, but it is suitable for the AN-124 and IL-76. The main problem is that it is not released.
  13. 0
    5 September 2019 11: 10
    While there is no engine, PAK YES has no prospects, there is no need to rush and panic, everything will appear in due time both the engine and PAK YES.
  14. +3
    5 September 2019 11: 50
    So. It is necessary to decide: if the future is incomprehensible, then the question of its "complexity" (or "simplicity") disappears.
  15. +2
    5 September 2019 12: 10
    Author, calm down! Everything will be fine. And it turns out like in Vysotsky’s song: ,, He broke all brains into pieces, all the gyruses braided. And the little rope authorities kittens give us a second injection. ,,
  16. 0
    5 September 2019 14: 07
    Why is the NK-93 buried? After all, they did it and tested it.
    1. +2
      5 September 2019 14: 50
      Work on the gas generator TVVD NK-93 began in 1988
      The start of work on this engine has already run 31 years !!! Charles!!!
      And by the time the plane appears, it will be 40 years old under it !!! (I am silent already about subsequent upgrades) It is already outdated simply, it was a good engine, but it was too late to rush with it
      1. 0
        6 September 2019 10: 31
        Wait a moment. But in terms of fuel efficiency and thrust-weight ratio, it is still quite relevant now. The Kalashnikov assault rifle was also invented 70 years ago. It is relevant to this day.
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  21. +6
    5 September 2019 17: 39
    Generally blatant illiteracy gosp. R. Skomorokhov difficult to comment. But I’ll try, to the best of my humble understanding of an aviation engineer.
    1. Why KB Ilyushin? Because, apart from the Ilovites in Russia, no one has any experience with transport aircraft in general, and even more so with a heavy class.
    2. Yes, of course, we are talking about the modernization of the existing fleet An-124-100 to 100M. Some information (not closed, although special). The design life of the An-124 aircraft in 1986. asked at 50000 h.p. 10000 landings 45 calendars. years with an assigned resource of 8000 h.p. 2000 pos. 15 tsp Then the extension went to (extension boundaries) 24000 h. 6000 pos. 25 tsp (according to add. to the certificate. type No. 24-124-100 / D6 - 2000-12-15). To date, this document is valid.
    Pay attention to the difference between the project resource and the assigned one. I will not delve into the operational subtleties, I can only say that this is normal in the process of operating aircraft, based on the experience of operating letter boards and based on the results of the joint work of the design bureau of the developer, manufacturer and operators, the resources are extended and can be extended beyond the design boundaries. But - to date, normal work with Antonov’s design bureau is impossible and most likely it’s forever (most likely this design bureau will cease to exist permanently).
    At present, Russia has about 30 An-124 aircraft (for all operators) either in operation or in storage.
    Now about the raids / landings. The maximum raid on the sides is 24143 l.h. (board 82042 Volga-Dnepr) and 4748 pos (board 82043 Volga-Dnepr), both are 1990 aircraft. According to calendars (for flying), the maximum for Ukrainian UR-82009 is 33g. 8 months But this is the maximum.
    If we take the average values ​​for flight / landings, then on Russian sides we get 8300/2172. That is, if we take an average of 124 hours of resource reserve from the An-15000 to the first extension limits. and 3800 landings! With the possibility of further extension to the design. That is, these aircraft have the full ability to fly for another 20-25 years, while they have a very big modernization potential. But who will do all this? Even if this "404 country" tries to make some real gestures towards the resuscitation of "Antonov", it will not work in this particular case - the Ukrainians will not organize joint work on the modernization of the An-124. It remains only to rely on our own strength, and what letter to write at the same time is the matter ... Moreover, as a result of modernization in terms of systems, equipment and avionics, it will be a completely different aircraft.
    3. Engines. Of course on the D-18T. In Russia, there are operating facilities for the full cycle of repairs and renewals of D-18 at ARZ-121 in Kubinka and at UZGA.
    1. +2
      5 September 2019 23: 53
      A competent answer, reading the article creates a feeling of complete confusion.
  22. bar
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    5 September 2019 18: 40
    What is happening today around Russian transport aviation is very ambivalent. To put it mildly, a complete mess, and in everything: forecasts, numbers, statements, official communications.

    This industry was given under the control of Serdyukov. Now he will bring the forecasts in line with the figures, and official affairs will not be done either.
  23. +2
    5 September 2019 20: 11
    About how, an excellent moderator, I wiped almost all my comments)))) Although I spoke on the topic, and without insults. Lyapota is what. Well, suppose a comment about the author where I question his criticality based on an analysis of his past articles, okay. Although as if nothing bad were written there. But what about the comments where I discuss in detail the essence of the article? Also nekmilfo
    1. +2
      5 September 2019 20: 13
      Something is rotten however. By the way, if you tell me once it’s already that you delete comments of the type according to the criterion of attitude to the article ... Then delete then that's all there is almost no word about airplanes but more about politics. AND! Weak?
      1. +3
        6 September 2019 00: 13
        Quote: Grizli-666
        Something is rotten however. By the way, if you tell me once it’s already that you delete comments of the type according to the criterion of attitude to the article ... Then delete then that's all there is almost no word about airplanes but more about politics. AND! Weak?

        Do not worry so much! There are no moderators or admins on VO for a long time (Apollo was probably the "last" one), but there are just censors! And they themselves decide what to delete. True, recently they have had a lot of "sympathizers" who "discovered" the "complaint" button for themselves!
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        6 September 2019 12: 28
        Quote: Grizli-666
        Something is rotten however.

        do not give in to emotions!
        I already have 3 warnings, because I questioned the advisability of putting out propaganda of Ivan Rudenko about the US army (and there, between the cases, it concerns Putin and the Russians in the SAR and about Crimea and Donbass ...
  24. 0
    6 September 2019 09: 45
    I think that such a pun on the topic of Ruslan is connected with the fact that everyone who speaks about him did not agree among themselves, and their thoughts can not be correctly conveyed to the people. I believe that 124M is the desire of the Russian Federation to get rid of imported components. Carrying out such work, they came to the understanding that Ruslan was going to get together with us and most of our components. But the resources of those in service are reduced and we need a lot of such systems. And let's recreate such an aircraft with the associated replacement of units and systems with modern Russian ones ?! And at the same time, let's call it differently so that no one yapping? Let's! Here you have the elephant. If the equipment remains and the suppliers do not fail, it is possible that the Elephant will appear quickly.
  25. 0
    8 September 2019 02: 15
    The article is not a boy, but a husband! The husband is offended by the fact that not all plans tell him ...
  26. 0
    9 September 2019 12: 46
    First, we must forget about the NK-93 - it does not and is not expected to have a key unit, a resource planetary gearbox. In addition, the NK-93 gas generator is already out of date for more than 25 years of its existence (in comparison with the PD-14). In its current form, it is a demonstrator.
    Secondly, it’s worthwhile to figure out what the Il-106, An-124-100M and PAC STVTS are (and these are completely different military-technical vehicles that can partially replace each other), and only then make noise.
  27. bar
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    6 October 2019 12: 45

    Do you understand everything? For example, not all of me. So it turns out that what he heard raises a bunch of questions.

    What our Ministry of Industry and Trade gives out does not lend itself to any logical explanation. Take at least a tattered topic with the replacement of the An-2. It seems that the project was already ready, and the plant was ready to start production, and even the portfolio of orders burst from orders. Well, you ...
  28. Kaw
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    20 November 2019 20: 27
    I read Wikipedia: "IL-106, carrying capacity 80 tons." What kind of replacement is Ruslan, this is a replacement for the Il-76.