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The Germans rested against him, as in the Brest Fortress

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The Great Patriotic War claimed millions of lives. Every resident of our country has experienced the horrors of a fascist attack. Millions of Soviet people fought to death against the fascist invaders and died for the Fatherland, for the future of the next generations, for peace on earth. 17 July 2012 will mark 71 the year of the remarkable feat of Nikolai Sirotinin. In Belarus, his feat is known to almost everyone. History very much like fiction, too much of it is fantastic and there were too few witnesses. The details of Sirotinin’s heroic deed became known only in the 1960 year, after the publicity of the data from the Central Archive of the Red Army. The diary of German ober-lieutenant Friedrich Hönfeld, who fell near Stalingrad, and the stories of local residents shed light on the act of the Russian soldier. Even today we know very little about him.



Nikolay Vladimirovich Sirotinin was born in the 21 year of the last century in the city of Orel. He had two sisters - Taisia ​​and Nina, as well as brother Benjamin. Before the beginning of World War II, to help his family, Nikolay went to work at the local Tekmash plant. In 1940, he was drafted into the ranks of the Red Army. In the very first days of the war, part of him fell under an airstrike, and Nikolai was wounded, but soon was able to return to the front.

The next page of his biography begins with the words of the inhabitants of the village of Sokolnichi, which to this day stands on the banks of the river Dobrost in Belarus. Sirotinin served as a gunner in the 55th Infantry Regiment, located near the town of Krichev. Many peasants remembered a modest and polite, thin young man who often helped with the housework, came to visit, supported the elderly. In place, the regiment did not stay long. In those days, the Germans irresistibly attacked from all sides, the scattered parts of the Red Army, barely recovering from the very first huge losses, retreated to Moscow. Crumpling everything in its path, German approached the town of Krichev Tanks. On July 17, the 6th Infantry Division, which included the 55th Infantry Regiment, received orders to retreat. In order to withdraw troops without losses, it was necessary to organize a cover. Among the many volunteers who volunteered was Nikolai Sirotinin. The commander of his crew also remained with him. Their task was to delay the advance of German troops on the bridge over the river Dobrost, and then retreat and join their units. Surely they understood how little chance they were of surviving.

The main factor that played an important role in further events was the correct location of Nicholas's gun on a hill in a peasant field. The highway, the river and the bridge were in his hands, but the gun was disguised in thick rye. When German tanks and armored personnel carriers, along with armed infantry, entered the bridge, Sirotinin blew up the lead vehicle. Having reloaded the gun, he disabled the armored vehicle that closed the column. The commander at the bridge amended the shooting of Sirotinin, our artillery fired from behind the river at the blockade of German tanks. When the commander was wounded, he was able to move away, leaving the battlefield. Their task with Nikolai was completed, the advance of the armored column stopped. But Sirotinin judged otherwise. From the diary of Friedrich Hönfeld it follows that two tanks that tried to remove the first tank from the bridge were hit. Another armored personnel carrier tried to wade through the river, but was stuck in swampy mud along the coast. All this time, Nikolai continued to shoot and shoot. The Germans also answered, but could not detect the location of the gun. In addition, it was not clear the actual number of opposing enemy troops.

When the bridge was nevertheless overcome by the Nazis, Sirotinin’s gun fired over fifty shots. After that, the course of the battle was predetermined. Nicholas shot the approaching enemy soldiers from a carbine and died the death of the brave in his position. 11 tanks and 7 armored vehicles, as well as a few dozen people lost enemy tank units that day on the bridge as a result of Sirotinin’s well-coordinated work with the soldiers of his unit. Locals recall that the Germans, astounded by the courage and valor of the Russian warrior, buried him with all the honors. From the diary of the same Friedrich Hönfeld: “July 17, 1941. Sokolnici, near Krichev. In the evening, they buried an unknown Russian soldier. He alone stood at the cannon, long shot down a column of tanks and infantry, and died. Everyone was surprised by his courage ... Oberst (colonel) before the grave said that if all the soldiers of the Fuhrer fought like this Russian, they would have conquered the whole world. Three times they fired volleys from rifles. Still, he is Russian, is such a reverence necessary? ” The Germans asked the peasants to tell them about this soldier. But no one answered them.

Today in the village of Sokolniki there is no grave in which the Germans buried Nicholas. A few years after the war, his remains were buried in a mass grave, the field was plowed, and the cannon was turned to scrap. In 1960, a modest monument was erected near the road near the village itself. The words are written on it: “Here at dawn 17 July 1941 entered combat with a column of fascist tanks and in a two-hour battle the senior sergeant-gunner Nikolai Vladimirovich Sirotinin, who gave his life for the freedom and independence of our Motherland, fought off all enemy attacks.”

In 1961, local ethnographers found his grave. Posthumously, Nicholas wanted to be presented for the title of Hero of the Soviet Union, but they did not find either his photographs or sufficiently reliable information about the feat. He was awarded only the Order of the Patriotic War of the first degree, which is located in the Museum of the city of Minsk. In the town of Krichev, a street was named after Sirotinin. In the city of Orel in high school number 17 there is a museum of Battle Glory, which contains whole packs of letters, appeals, photographs, maps and newspaper publications about this feat. The history of Nikolay Sirotinin concerns many people to this day. Writers are inspired to write stories about him. The forums are not subsiding heated debate about whether it is fiction or a real event. The Rodina film company made a documentary about this gallant man, and a feature film will appear very soon. In the house where Nikolai grew up, his relatives still live.

Such stories are needed not only in wartime, but also in peacetime. They raised the morale of the Soviet fighters, demoralized the enemy. After the war, the feats of fallen heroes became an example for grateful descendants. How many such unknown Orphans stood in barriers, fighting face to face with the terrible fascist death machine. They died, but gave their comrades the opportunity to survive, to get out from under the fire, to gain a foothold on the next frontier. Nikolai Sirotinin proved by his own example that our spirit is invincible, the struggle is possible, and our country simply must exist. And we, and our descendants should remember this!

Information sources:
http://ru-an.info/news_content.php?id=1538
http://www.newsland.ru/news/detail/id/951776/
http://earth-chronicles.ru/news/2012-05-28-23520
http://statehistory.ru/1832/Nikolay-Sirotinin---odin-protiv-kolonny-nemetskikh-tankov--I-odin-v-polne-voin/
http://www.orelgrad.ru/2011/05/12/kolya-sirotinin-dolzhen-stat-gordostyu-orla/
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  1. click80
    click80 9 July 2012 08: 52
    +17
    Eternal memory to heroes !!!!
  2. Deniska999
    Deniska999 9 July 2012 08: 59
    +15
    Glory to the heroes of the Great War!
  3. JonnyT
    JonnyT 9 July 2012 09: 23
    +9
    So young, to live and still live, but he himself went to death for the sake of the Motherland, so that his feat would live forever! And you could be so ????
    1. Oleg0705
      Oleg0705 16 July 2012 21: 53
      +1
      And one warrior in the field, if he is tailored in Russian!
      Eternal memory to him.
  4. erased
    erased 9 July 2012 09: 25
    +18
    And again a good article with errors.
    Mr. author and gentlemen, the owners of the site! Why are you too lazy to look into documents? Why print knowingly inaccurate data?
    1. The 24th Panzer Division of Germany was part of 2 Panzer Corps of XNUMX Panzer Group as part of Army Group Center. The division commander at that time was Major General Baron Wilibald von Langermann-Erlenkamp. The corps was commanded by General Leo Freiherr Geir von Schweppenburg.
    And Colonel General Gein Guderian commanded the 2nd Panzer Group, later renamed the Second Panzer Army.
    2.As can be seen from the article, Sirotinin fought as part of the consolidated detachment of the 55th regiment. This means that he was the gunner of either an anti-tank gun, the so-called "magpie", or a regimental gun of 76,2 mm caliber. The feat was performed by the entire detachment and Sirotinin among them!
    And as a result. The heroic actions of Sirotinin cause admiration and admiration for the courage and stamina of a young guy, as it causes admiration and courage for all the fighters who died earlier. Their feat should not be forgotten and worthy of writing about him, as well as about the exploits of other soldiers, sailors and commanders without errors and inaccuracies! This is the least we can repay for the salvation of the Motherland and the world!
    1. Brother Sarych
      Brother Sarych 9 July 2012 14: 53
      -5
      This is not a good article with errors, it's just misinformation - everything has already been taken apart on the site ...
    2. Peter Kosorotov
      Peter Kosorotov 10 July 2012 06: 02
      +1
      Shut up, Not talking about that!
  5. Trailer
    Trailer 9 July 2012 09: 25
    +8
    "Such stories are needed not only in wartime, but also in peacetime ..."

    And these are the author’s golden words! If I ever get married, I will definitely bring up a wife with such stories so that a person who depends on his word, duty, and people who depend on him comes out of her!
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 9 July 2012 10: 15
      +13
      Dear Caravan! It will be too late to raise a wife if she, of course, is over 13 years old! wink But the children - it is necessary!
      1. Trailer
        Trailer 9 July 2012 11: 11
        +3
        Nothing, nothing! For that, the little one along with mother’s milk absorbs such stories!
  6. FreZZZeR
    FreZZZeR 9 July 2012 09: 28
    +2
    Nikolai Vladimirovich Sirotinin was born in the year 21 of the last century in the Belarusian city of Orel. He had two sisters - Taisia ​​and Nina, as well as brother Benjamin. In 1940, he became a member of the Komsomol. When the Great Patriotic War began, Nikolai worked at the local Tekmash plant. In the very first days of the war, the city was bombed from the air. As a result of the June 22 explosion, Sirotinin was wounded by a shrapnel in the shoulder and taken to hospital. Fortunately, the injury was not serious, and, having patched the guy, the doctors sent him home. There, hastily collecting his things, the young man, among many other patriots, went to the front.

    The author did not quite understand the question. Nikolai Sirotinin was born in not in the Belarusian Oryol, but in the ordinary Oryol, in the Black Earth region.
    Drafted into the ranks of the Red Army in 1940. Its part really came under the air raid and it was really wounded. After being wounded, he returned to his unit.
    He did work at Tekmash, but before the army and before the war, to help his family, because of this he did not even continue his studies.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 10 July 2012 17: 11
      0
      He simply copied from Ekaterina Gordeeva !!!
  7. sichevik
    sichevik 9 July 2012 09: 28
    +11
    That's who you need to talk about and show on our TV. And not about how Filya Kirkorov baptizes his daughter.
    The exploits of our fathers and grandfathers should not be forgotten. On such feats, it is necessary to educate our children.
    1. Valentin80
      Valentin80 9 July 2012 15: 22
      +4
      Unfortunately, this is not profitable now. Almost everyone began to worship the golden calf, and everything that does not bring profit is relegated to the hundredth plan.
  8. party3AH
    party3AH 9 July 2012 09: 32
    +3
    The real son of his land.
  9. AK-74-1
    AK-74-1 9 July 2012 10: 05
    +11
    Even with errors. Even with inaccuracies, this feat deserves popular memory not only in articles, but also in films. At such events, our children should be brought up.
  10. snik57
    snik57 9 July 2012 10: 32
    +3
    Yes, we surprised the Germans from the first day of the war to the last!
  11. wulf66
    wulf66 9 July 2012 10: 48
    +4
    Eternal memory, land rest in peace. That's why you need to make films! And not about the mystical white German tanks.
  12. Follow us
    Follow us 9 July 2012 11: 11
    +5
    20 years old was a guy! The current twenty-year-olds for the most part only wean from their mother’s bosom.
    1. Alex
      Alex 17 March 2014 11: 41
      +2
      Quote: Siga
      20 years old was a guy! The current twenty-year-olds for the most part only wean from their mother’s bosom.
      And some even before forty do not part with it.
  13. 22rus
    22rus 9 July 2012 11: 31
    -1
    Yes, how much can this nonsense be repeated!
    Nikolai Sirotinin was never near Krichev.
    His native 55th Rifle Regiment was surrounded in general these July days.
    Yes, and Senior Sergeant N. Sirotinin died only in 1944.
    And on July 17, 1941, near the village of Sokolnichi, the 2nd infantry battalion 409 SP 137-SD was in defense, consisting of 600 people, 4 guns and 12 machine guns. The battalion delayed the advance of the 4TD Wehrmacht strike group for several hours. That’s the whole story. There are German documents on this subject, as well as the memoirs of our veterans.
    The whole story about a lone gunner was invented by unscrupulous archive workers Stepanchuk and Tereshchenko and former convict Melnikov.
    And many years after the end of the war.
  14. Dimka off
    Dimka off 9 July 2012 11: 51
    +2
    Here you need to tell and show such examples in schools so that children learn to love and protect their homeland using real heroes as an example.
    Eternal memory to Nikolai Sirotinin and all the defenders of the Motherland!
  15. 22rus
    22rus 9 July 2012 11: 56
    +3
    Yes, how much can this nonsense be repeated!
    Nikolai Sirotinin was never near Krichev.
    His native 55th Rifle Regiment these July days was generally surrounded by many hundreds of kilometers from those places.
    Yes, and Senior Sergeant N. Sirotinin died only in 1944.
    And near the village of Sokolnichi stood the 2nd infantry battalion 409 SP 137-SD, consisting of 600 people, 4 guns and 12 machine guns. The battalion delayed the advance of the 4TD Wehrmacht strike group for several hours. That’s the whole story. There are German documents on this subject, as well as the memoirs of our veterans.
    And the whole story about a lone gunner was invented by unscrupulous archive workers Stepanchuk and Tereshchenko and former convict Melnikov.

    PS If someone does not like the TRUTH, then this is his problem. But deleting comments is ugly.
    1. erased
      erased 9 July 2012 13: 59
      +5
      If so, then the authors of the article simply play on patriotism and the memory of the war.
      Myths lead to a dead end.
      But Sirotinin, like others, deserve honors and a bright memory, regardless of where and when they fought!
    2. imrek_ua
      imrek_ua 10 July 2012 00: 13
      0
      Seriously. It would be even more serious if you made a link to an address where you can see the documents to which you refer.
      1. Stas57
        Stas57 10 July 2012 00: 30
        0
        post below 22rus Yesterday, 13: 23
    3. Yarbay
      Yarbay 10 July 2012 17: 13
      0
      Dear Alexey!
      but I don’t understand another, it seems like exactly such an article was, in the comments to which you proved that it was fiction !!
      Why did the admins receive this article for moderation, did they miss it ??
  16. Krilion
    Krilion 9 July 2012 13: 15
    -3
    Quote: 22rus
    And the whole story about a lone gunner was invented by unscrupulous archive workers Stepanchuk and Tereshchenko and former convict Melnikov.


    I would like to see links to the source ... screaming loudly without bothering myself with evidence, I can too ...
  17. 22rus
    22rus 9 July 2012 13: 23
    0
    Quote: Krilion
    I would like to see links to the source.


    Yes please.
    http://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/42/989313.html
    http://hranitel-slov.livejournal.com/43447.html
    Here is the full analysis of flights stories of this "feat".
  18. Pricheroz
    Pricheroz 9 July 2012 14: 16
    -3
    Researchers Learn. I rummaged through the Internet and found out the truth. Bullshit.
    1. Stas57
      Stas57 9 July 2012 22: 20
      +2
      you would have looked before you grumble, since the comrade cites not Google links, but German and Soviet documents from archives, the Soviet press, maps and memoirs, participants, and it’s not mistaken where the Eagle is located. and here you are not a ZhZhistorik, find the archive link to the Hensveld diary! and the platform is not important, even though the book, the truth is more important
  19. drossel81
    drossel81 9 July 2012 14: 22
    +3
    There is someone to equal our children !! Eternal memory to the fallen !!
  20. Brother Sarych
    Brother Sarych 9 July 2012 14: 50
    +2
    It is very sad that the site has returned to this topic again - the feat of the Soviet people is unprecedented, the names of the heroes must forever be preserved for future generations!
    Unfortunately, there are people with a bad conscience who want to warm their hands in someone else's glory, and even worse invent non-existent feats for their personal PR ...
    All this fiction, it wasn’t - a lot of exploits remained unknown, thousands of heroes still remain unknown, yes, probably. already will remain such, but in this case, the act of the authors of the exaggerated legend causes only disgust ...
  21. darkman70
    darkman70 9 July 2012 15: 30
    +1
    About such people need to make films.
    1. pribolt
      pribolt 9 July 2012 19: 22
      +1
      Quote: darkman70

      About such people need to make films.


      I agree. We need to know our heroes, Recently, more and more dirt, such channels as NTV need to be closed.
    2. Stas57
      Stas57 9 July 2012 22: 24
      +1
      Mikhalkov takes you ...
  22. saturn.mmm
    saturn.mmm 9 July 2012 17: 02
    0
    Eternal memory to the soldiers who fell in battles for their homeland.
    Its history of heroic examples is rich as a cornucopia. And they are trying to palm off some foreign wars, foreign heroes, foreign history.
  23. cth; fyn
    cth; fyn 9 July 2012 17: 16
    0
    an example of a competent ambush: a bottleneck, the destruction of the head and trailing vehicles, depriving the enemy of the possibility of maneuver, competent interaction of the firing points and, of course, their good disguise.
    We can say that Sirotkin's professionalism is above all praise, Glory to the Hero!
    1. Stas57
      Stas57 9 July 2012 22: 25
      0
      look at the map and be surprised that he physically could not see the closing machine in a dense forest
  24. mnn_12
    mnn_12 9 July 2012 17: 22
    +2
    A wonderful story and a worthy example of the next generation.
    I want to share another story with the forum users, she is full of the counterpoint of this feat, but it is in the quality of this that she emphasizes the heroism of the heroes. In itself, it seems to me that this anti-feat is instructive.
    In a Bulgarian pensioner newspaper last month I read an interview with a Soviet WWII veteran who now lives in a Bulgarian village. There he told the following.
    When the Germans attacked (this happened at the beginning of the war), ego officers often arrested ordinary soldiers and started shooting. their. The officers themselves, of course, wanted to surrender to the Germans. The veteran himself managed to hide. This is the worst part of the story.
    When the Germans arrived, the betrayal of the officers did not help. The Germans shot them.
    When I read, I did not pay attention to the number of parts in which this veteran was a sniper (he mentioned the number). If I find this number I wonder if it will be possible to verify the reliability of this story?
  25. Fox
    Fox 9 July 2012 17: 37
    0
    Thanks to the author, I have been looking for this material for a long time. It is very useful for young people.
  26. 22rus
    22rus 9 July 2012 17: 42
    0
    Quote: cth; fyn
    an example of a competent ambush: a bottleneck, the destruction of the head and trailing vehicles, depriving the enemy of the possibility of maneuver, competent interaction of the firing points and, of course, their good disguise.

    Not in this case. Because, the legend says: 18 units of enemy equipment were destroyed. Even if we assume that exactly so many tanks and armored personnel carriers were in the convoy, then its length (convoy) should be about 1,5 km. And taking into account the distance from the gun to the main vehicle (suppose 300-500 m), the closing machine was in 2 km from the gun in ambush. Give me a 41-year anti-tank gun that can hit a tank at that distance.
    In addition, the joke is that the place of the last car in the convoy will be located in a deep forest. The highway approaches the bridge through the forest. How to get into the tank by shooting through the forest ???

    Quote: cth; fyn
    We can say that Sirotkin’s professionalism is above all praise,


    Tell us where could Sirotinin have professionalism? Ordinary Red Army soldier of the first year of service, untrained and unfired salag.
    Himself is not funny?
    1. segamegament
      segamegament 15 July 2012 23: 49
      -2
      22rus,
      Tell us where could Sirotinin have professionalism? Ordinary Red Army soldier of the first year of service, untrained and unfired salag.
      Himself is not funny?

      Funny, you're a fool. Private 41 years surviving in border battles, in 1942 was already equal to separation.
      My grandfather on June 23, 41, took the battle at Molodechno 359 SP 50 SD. Grandfather, born in 1920 drafted into a division after the withdrawal of that from the "Winter War", a private, said that after the Finnish war, their jerks were "jerked off" so that my mother did not grieve, and this helped not only to survive in that war, but to win. We studied very quickly.
      Yes, in 1945, my grandfather of the Guard was a junior lieutenant. reconnaissance platoon commander 391 ORR 323 SD. So this "first year of service, untrained and unfired salaga" for the WHOLE war, from bell to bell, crumbled and brought languages ​​from the battalion! Learn the materiel of the salag ...
      1. 22rus
        22rus 16 July 2012 12: 35
        0
        Quote: segamegament
        Funny, you're a fool. Private 41 years surviving in border battles, in 1942 was already equal to separation.

        You see how fun. Especially about 1942. Do you even know how to count? By July 17, 1941, Private Sirotinin had only 8 months of service in peacetime and three weeks of war. Do you think that this is enough to put one of the best Wehrmacht tank divisions on your ears?

        Quote: segamegament
        Yes, in 1945, my grandfather of the Guard was a junior lieutenant. reconnaissance platoon commander 391 ORR 323 SD. So this "first year of service, untrained and unfired salaga" for the WHOLE war, from bell to bell, crumbled and brought languages ​​from the battalion!

        Definitely well done!
        1. segamegament
          segamegament 16 July 2012 13: 27
          -1
          Quote: 22rus
          You see how fun. Especially about 1942. Do you even know how to count? By July 17, 1941, Private Sirotinin had only 8 months of service in peacetime and three weeks of war. Do you think that this is enough to put one of the best Wehrmacht tank divisions on your ears?

          OK. 8 months and THREE weeks of war. Three weeks - 21 days of continuous, exhausting battles, by the gunner (most likely, judging by the low silhouette and high rye smile ) 45-mm anti-tank gun mod. 1937 (52-P-243-PP-1).
          On July 17, fights were fought in Krichev, who exactly there was in connection with the confusion no one would ever say for sure except eyewitnesses. But in war this does not happen. wink
          http://s50.radikal.ru/i130/1207/2b/2bc1bc653baa.jpg тут карта боевых действий (фото оригинала каликабельно) Кричев найди сам и посмотри, что там творилось. Есть карты за последующий период, с частями (№) там сам черт ногу сломит...
          1. 22rus
            22rus 16 July 2012 14: 12
            0
            Quote: segamegament
            Three weeks - 21 days of continuous, exhausting battles, by the gunner (most likely, judging by the low silhouette and high rye smile) of the 45-mm anti-tank gun mod. 1937 (52-P-243-PP-1).

            The 1.55th joint venture, where Sirotinin served, received baptism of fire on June 24, and was surrounded on June 27 and the remainder of the regiment left it in mid-July, about 250 km south of Krichev. AND NEVER THE 55TH JV WAS NOT IN KRYCHEV !.
            2. Why did you get the idea that Sirotinin was a gunner? Why did you get the idea that he was a gunner at all? Artillerymen were not trained at the regimental school attached to the rifle regiment.
            Quote: segamegament
            On July 17, fights were fought in Krichev, who exactly there was in connection with the confusion no one would ever say for sure except eyewitnesses. But in war this does not happen.

            This July 17, 41 g there was a mess. Now everything is clear enough who, where and when. Understood.
            1. segamegament
              segamegament 16 July 2012 17: 17
              -2
              Quote: 22rus
              The 1.55th joint venture, where Sirotinin served, received baptism of fire on June 24, and was surrounded on June 27 and the remainder of the regiment left it in mid-July, about 250 km south of Krichev. AND NEVER THE 55TH JV WAS NOT IN KRYCHEV !.

              http://www.obd-memorial.ru/html/info.htm?id=261865744&type=common
              exactly one day a day 71 years ago, a soldier was dragged 250 km to be buried in a mass grave in Krichev?
              Quote: 22rus
              2. Why did you get the idea that Sirotinin was a gunner? Why did you get the idea that he was a gunner at all? Artillerymen were not trained at the regimental school attached to the rifle regiment.

              And who said that he was not an artilleryman? Actions of 55 SP on June 24 "... The second enemy attack was also repulsed by small arms fire, mortar и regimental artillery. No means of reinforcing the regiment were given, so they managed only on their own. The turning point was the sudden counterattack of rifle companies that went around the right flank of the attacking enemy. The Nazis were again forced to retreat. The attempt of about 10 medium tanks to bypass the defense of the regiment from the right flank was not successful either. Our anti-tank guns knocked out four of them, the rest turned back. We held the defensive line, destroying several hundred fascists in the course of the battle, which lasted until nightfall. Our losses were small ... "http://www.polk.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=1694
              My opponent is 22rus, your statements are like nonsense liberalist. You stopudovo know that the regular structure of a rifle regiment, in addition to rifle battalions, included a mortar company, a machine gun company, anti-tank batteries and a regimental battery, communications, reconnaissance, etc. I do not remember exactly...
              Quote: 22rus
              Now everything is clear enough who, where and when. Understood.
              Where and who figured it out? Except blah blah blah there is nothing ...
              1. 22rus
                22rus 16 July 2012 17: 35
                +1
                [
                Quote: segamegament
                exactly one day a day 71 years ago, a soldier was dragged 250 km to be buried in a mass grave in Krichev?

                Who was buried in the grave near Krichev 71 years ago is not yet known. In any case, not Sirotinina for sure .. Perhaps one of the dead soldiers of 409 joint venture, who really defended the highway near Sokolnichi. But who and when "killed" Kolya for the beauty of the feat is known. These are Melnikov, Stepanchuk, Tereshchenko and Kalinin. 54 years ago.
                Quote: segamegament
                My opponent is 22rus, your statements are like nonsense liberalist. You stopudovo know that the regular structure of a rifle regiment, in addition to rifle battalions, included a mortar company, a machine gun company, anti-tank batteries and a regimental battery, communications, reconnaissance, etc. I do not remember exactly...

                The presence of artillery in the regiment does not prove at all that Sirotinin was an artilleryman. Could be both an infantryman and a machine gunner ...
                Quote: segamegament
                Where and who figured it out? Except blah blah blah there is nothing ...

                I figured it out. If that is not clear - ask.
                1. segamegament
                  segamegament 16 July 2012 18: 18
                  -2
                  Give links "to figure it out" otherwise it's all blah blah blah ...
                  1. 22rus
                    22rus 16 July 2012 18: 27
                    0
                    Quote: segamegament
                    Give links "to figure it out" otherwise it's all blah blah blah ...

                    Can you figure it out? Or help? laughing
                    Even here you can’t read the comments carefully. laughing
                    See my post two dozen above on July 9th.
                    There are links.
                    1. segamegament
                      segamegament 16 July 2012 19: 28
                      -1
                      Read comments liberalist fool ? Goebels dismiss and then wrote more truth laughing
                      1. 22rus
                        22rus 16 July 2012 19: 32
                        0
                        You asked for links - I showed you them. And here are some liberalists and Goebbels?
                      2. segamegament
                        segamegament 16 July 2012 21: 12
                        -1
                        Are you still foolish ?! Quarrel, we will say goodbye ...
                      3. 22rus
                        22rus 16 July 2012 21: 39
                        +1
                        Quote: segamegament
                        Quarrel will say goodbye.

                        So what to talk about with you? He jumped in here, mumbled something inappropriately, got back and .... fly on yourself.
                        tongue
  27. Stas57
    Stas57 9 July 2012 22: 08
    +1
    again the myth of orphan, and even with gross, shameful mistakes

    assessment 2
    the main errors are indicated, add-
    --
    They wanted to present Nicholas posthumously to the rank of Hero of the Soviet Union, but they did not find either his photograph or sufficiently reliable data on the feat.
    nonsense, off documents say otherwise

    -- the very first days of the war, the city was bombed from the air. As a result of the June 22 explosion, Sirotinin was wounded by a shrapnel in the shoulder and taken to hospital. Fortunately, the injury was not serious, and, having patched the guy, the doctors sent him home. There, hastily collecting his things, the young man, among many other patriots, went to the front.
    the author is responsible for this nonsense? that is, having been injured, he goes home from the hospital and from there with a marching company near Krichev? Oh well

    It follows from the diary of Friedrich Hönfeld that two tanks that tried to remove the first tank from the bridge were knocked out.
    link to a quote on the diary where it says, about tanks
    read sources of history in short

    and another thing about the photo?
  28. 22rus
    22rus 9 July 2012 22: 42
    +1
    Quote: Stas57
    the author is responsible for this nonsense?

    The author of this article is as irresponsible as those who invented the story of Nikolai Sirotinin.
    I wonder if one can Gorbachevsky Alexander, signed under the delirium with the title "The Germans rested on him ..." to admit their obvious mistakes?
    Alexander, uh ...
    1. Stas57
      Stas57 9 July 2012 22: 46
      +1
      corrected the Belarusian eagle, then reads
      1. 22rus
        22rus 9 July 2012 22: 56
        +1
        Quote: Stas57
        corrected the Belarusian eagle, then reads

        He reads ... It only seems to me that the author is scared to go out and defend his writings. Such peysers can throw one soldier under German tanks, but it seems that they don’t answer for what was said ...
        1. Stas57
          Stas57 9 July 2012 23: 14
          +1
          and for this you need more than the first 5 links on Google,
          and glory to the "heroes" you don't need to shout a lot
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  30. R. Alex
    R. Alex 10 July 2012 10: 39
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    It’s just disgusting when some, trying to prove their academic right, pour mud on the fallen soldier. And in its place, how many would be able to knock out at least one tank? I mean myself, so let's think the man is good, and not mix it with dirt.
    1. 22rus
      22rus 10 July 2012 10: 55
      +3
      Quote: R.Alex
      some, trying to prove their academic right, pour mud on the fallen soldier.

      You, apparently, misunderstood the essence of the issue.
      No one trample the fallen soldier in the dirt. There was not a single bad word about the fighter N. Sirotinin.
      But about those who lied and composed for various reasons, and many years after the Victory - those deserve condemnation and shame.
  31. Magadan
    Magadan 10 July 2012 11: 05
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    Yes ... The Germans were buried with honors, but from the Americans, I think, this would not have been expected. Constantly these scumbags on the Internet spread what they do with the killed Afghans.
    1. 22rus
      22rus 10 July 2012 13: 18
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      Quote: Magadan
      Germans buried with honors

      Monstrous lies.
      The Germans were strictly forbidden to bury with honors the fallen Soviet soldiers. The same fate was reserved for the Polish military. No fireworks, no speeches, no presence of extraneous civilians. There was a strict instruction on this subject.
  32. Captain Vrungel
    Captain Vrungel 10 July 2012 11: 09
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    Let it be a legend. This legend confirms the heroism of the Soviet soldier. How many similar feats were performed by unknown soldiers, especially in the initial stage of the war. This should be carried by young people, and not by the moronic House-2 with like-minded participants and then between the legs.
  33. Drappier
    Drappier 10 July 2012 14: 42
    +2
    There is a documentary about this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-OaOGg91BY
    and regarding dirt in the comments above, it’s now fashionable to challenge historical values. They didn’t cover the Sailors pier, Gastelo didn’t ram, and this did not exist at all.
    1. 22rus
      22rus 10 July 2012 15: 27
      +1
      Quote: Drapper
      There is a documentary about this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-OaOGg91BY

      A documentary in which there is not a single document. Himself is not funny? lol

      Quote: Drapper
      He did not cover the sailors, Gastelo did not ram, and this did not exist at all.

      There are award documents for the exploits of Matrosov and Gastello. Anyone can see them.
      But Sirotinin's "feat" has no documents. You will be surprised, but even the information about his posthumous awarding with the Order of OV is a lie.
      1. Drappier
        Drappier 10 July 2012 18: 25
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        A cynic, these exploits "without documents" at the fronts, at least 100 pieces a day happened, the greatest proof of this to you, here you are sitting on a forum thread, a troll for yourself on the sly yes
        1. 22rus
          22rus 10 July 2012 18: 46
          +1
          But who is arguing? A lot of things happened on the fronts.
          But this "feat" did not take place at the front and not in wartime. Because of this, and all the fuss.
  34. gregor6549
    gregor6549 10 July 2012 16: 19
    +1
    There are many cases when on the way of the Germans stood up and held out to the end, single soldiers, tacni, pillboxes, etc. This, of course, sometimes made it necessary for the men to tinker with these loners, but the fact that this delayed the advance of the Germans for a long time is one of the many myths. Even the Brest Fortress did not play any role in delaying this offensive, although it could have played if it had been provided with personnel appropriate for such a fortress, artillery, etc., and had not slept through the German attack. All the bridges leading to the fortress across the Bug River were intact and the German infantry managed to break through them into the fortress without any problems immediately after the end of the artillery preparation. Brest itself was left at 8 am on June 22nd, and the fortress fighters who survived the first shelling were cut off from each other in separate casemates and the only thing they tried to do was to escape from the fortress. But there was no breakthrough and could not have happened. The Germans, of course, allocated a certain amount of infantry, artillery and other means of fire support for their "smoking" from the casemates, but this did not seriously affect the combat capability of other parts of the Center group and their advance deep into Belarus. In addition, after the first battles in the Fortress, the Germans stopped sacrificing their infantry and began to finish off their artillery fire from high-power guns, flamethrowers, mortars, machine guns and an elementary blockade. And without water and everything else you won't last long.

    Germans, artillery .... sorry for the ochepyatki, a machine with a "Turkish" accent.
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 10 July 2012 17: 35
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      I will support. Of course, no one cancels the feat of an artillery soldier, but it is STUPID to give the article the heading "They rested like a Brest fortress." They resisted, went around. There was no tragedy for the Germans.
  35. Azzzwer
    Azzzwer 10 July 2012 16: 37
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    22rus,
    Maybe this is a myth, but if he is able to give an impulse to a spiritual impulse for achievement, then he has the right to be!
    1. 22rus
      22rus 10 July 2012 17: 05
      +3
      Quote: Azzzwer
      Maybe this is a myth, but if he is able to give an impulse to a spiritual impulse for achievement, then he has the right to be!

      Tell me, what is such a spiritual impulse and who happened in the late 50s, when this lie was first published? The Soviet soldiers who have won for 15 years already?
  36. wolk71
    wolk71 10 July 2012 16: 39
    +2
    There are a lot of heroes who are not yet known who have accomplished great feats for you and me in that terrible war.
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 10 July 2012 17: 42
      +1
      A lot of. But if you write articles according to OBS (one grandmother said) - you can write a lot ...
  37. gregor6549
    gregor6549 10 July 2012 17: 41
    +1
    Of course a lot, but not the heroes but the hard workers win the war. Then they win with blood. And brains, if any. And as a rule, the laborers are trying to cover up the lack of brains in some heads with heroism, which, by the will of fate or the whim of their bosses, became the bosses of these laborers. And the worst thing is that they try to cover up the shame and defeat that happened at the beginning of the war with songs about heroism. No army in the world suffered such a defeat despite the fact that it was much better armed with its opponent both quantitatively and qualitatively. And it’s good that at least now all those who died then the state would be tracked down and buried, and those who are still alive would provide a decent old age and would not recall them once or twice a year. And after the war, the attitude towards their defenders has not changed. Please send to death, but for everything else there is not enough state. He had no time to deal with trifles. It is necessary to raise new heroes
    1. ytqnhfk
      ytqnhfk 10 July 2012 18: 08
      +2
      Are you a Gregor at least a squadron of the Army of the World HA HA HA (France in 40 days) Continue to continue or read the story yourself ?????????? You are an ignoramus !!!!!!
      1. Drappier
        Drappier 10 July 2012 18: 33
        +2
        September 1, 39 Wehrmacht attack on Poland, the 7th actual surrender, so that he is definitely an ignoramus laughing
  38. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 10 July 2012 18: 10
    +1
    My father told me how in Ukraine (I don’t remember exactly where), in a narrow place, in a swampy forest, two soldiers and a local boy held back a German motorized rifle convoy with a Maxim machine gun and a good supply of cartridges for three days. There were no tanks and armored personnel carriers, there were only trucks, cars, motorcycles and a narrow forest road. A competently arranged machine-gun nest and the absence of armored vehicles, grenade launchers had not yet been invented, apparently there were no minimums. That's the whole alignment that the Germans got. As a result, only the summoned Ju-87 was able to sort out the situation. There were three corpses left, a broken "Maxim" and a mountain of spent cartridges. They drove the people out of the villages, some officer made a speech that if our soldiers fight like this, we will defeat Russia, and the rest are not our opponents. Perhaps this officer was a veteran of the 1st World War (then there was no such genocide and there was a concept of soldier's heroism), perhaps this funeral event was carried out for educational purposes. But be that as it may, from the Germans there was a salute in honor of the heroically dead enemy. It may simply be because at that time they had not yet sipped their blood on the territory of the Soviet Union, therefore they could afford such actions. So you should not question the described solemn funeral of Sirotinin, this COULD BE. PS: I remembered the officer's speech because I knew German very well. in their village lived the German colonists (as they were called), the descendants of the Peter and Catherine settlers, who at the beginning of the war ALL were moved to Siberia (as well as the Volga Germans)
    1. 22rus
      22rus 10 July 2012 18: 31
      -1
      Another beautiful tale. But in life everything was different. No civilians at the funeral, no fireworks. Tight regulations.

      Quote: Black Colonel
      They drove people out of the villages, some officer made a speech that if our soldiers would fight like that, then we would defeat Russia, and the rest would not be our opponents.


      From the Instruction of the High Command of the Wehrmacht "On the burial of fallen or perished servicemen of the enemy's armed forces", No. 4420/41 of 29.07.41.
      ...........
      III. a) civilians are not allowed to attend funeral ceremonies;

      b) in order to avoid attracting general attention, the burial should be carried out early in the morning.


      Quote: Black Colonel
      But be that as it may, from the Germans there was a salute in honor of the heroically dead enemy.

      From the Instruction "On the Burial of Fallen or Perished Servicemen of the Enemy's Armed Forces", No. 4420/41 dated 29.07.41.
      ...........
      D. Special burial guidance Soviet military personnel.

      The following special rules are introduced for military personnel of the USSR in connection with their behavior towards German military personnel:

      1.) the burial is carried out in complete silence
      2.) Neither German processions nor enemy processions take part in the procedure
      3.) wreaths are not laid
      4.) fireworks are not made
      5.) participation of clergymen in view of the position of the USSR in relation to the church is not allowed.

      Here is such a harsh reality.
    2. Stas57
      Stas57 10 July 2012 18: 37
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      ,,,, for days they held back a German motorized rifle convoy with a Maxim machine gun and a good stock of cartridges. There were no tanks and armored personnel carriers, there were only trucks, cars, motorcycles and a narrow forest road.
      but judge for yourself, there were no tanks, ok, but the standard artillery of the division? But to get around the forest and grenades ??
      Well, damn it, that is the head?
      although of course .... father told .....
  39. Stas57
    Stas57 10 July 2012 18: 40
    +1
    wolk71,
    so it can deal with them and not come up with fetazi about terminators ...
  40. Pripyatchanin
    Pripyatchanin 10 July 2012 21: 28
    +1
    Eternal glory to the heroes!
  41. matolyan
    matolyan 10 July 2012 23: 23
    +4
    And I believe that there were Sirotinin and Panfilovites, I believe in their feat and love for the motherland, which cost them life !!!!! And do not care about all the logical pseudo historians who claim the opposite !!! I don’t give a damn about evil and the whole of Europe, about evil to the whole world, which with its logic and common sense can never understand the heroic deed of our heroes !!!! The main thing is that we, those who live on this earth, believe in this, believe that a feat in this world has a place for the sake of the Motherland, life, loved ones and loved ones !!!!
    1. Brother Sarych
      Brother Sarych 16 July 2012 18: 26
      +1
      There were many thousands of heroes who gave their lives for their homeland - eternal glory to them, but here it is about something else entirely! We are talking about scum who want to make their little gesheft, clinging to the glory of the fallen!
      1. 22rus
        22rus 16 July 2012 18: 55
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        Quote: Brother Sarich
        but here we are talking about something completely different! We are talking about scum who want to make their little gesheft, clinging to the glory of the fallen!

        Well, it can be called scum guilty - too cool.
        The main myth-maker is M.F. Melnikov, who "missed" the war because of serving the "ten" exactly from the 40th to the 50th year. His ability to create myths helped him to throw off the stigma of a former z / k and advance to the people. Subsequently, he himself unconditionally believed in the feat invented by him and to the end of his life supplemented it with all the new details. He ended his life in authority with the title of Honored Worker of Culture of the BSSR.
        The fault of the rest involved is the irresponsible and disregard for the duties assigned. We did not check the obvious linden, added a gag, made a bunch of mistakes when compiling responsible documents.
  42. Azalea
    Azalea 11 July 2012 00: 33
    +1
    This fact has long been discussed and there are conflicting opinions.
    This story is more like a propaganda tale.
    The Germans were excellent warriors, having gone through all of Europe such losses from a single gun, they could not allow.
    It's like fantasies about Terminator with an ax.
    Propaganda is a GREAT THING.
  43. Arct
    Arct 11 July 2012 00: 47
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    22rus
    Love formalism - please. Who told you that the described case did not happen until 29.07.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX? Maybe these instructions were introduced to suppress such cases. Would you like to provide such an opportunity? Not all German army officers blindly followed instructions ... it's about harsh reality ...

    Stas57
    And your sarcasm is not appropriate at all. At least your father told him, and you come up with yourself ... Try to consider the option of a swamp gati - and then, oddly enough, this sounds to you, this story will be reliable ...
    1. Azalea
      Azalea 11 July 2012 00: 59
      +1
      Soviet warrior - was a Great Warrior and Patriot.
      Both of my grandfathers went through the Great Patriotic War.
      But they told - there were no fairy tales.
      War is a routine, I myself went through Afghanistan.
      And the Germans fought and were skilled, smart and brave soldiers.
      And propaganda is right, it should be so, to inspire the military spirit in the soldier.
    2. Stas57
      Stas57 11 July 2012 01: 23
      +1
      but what sarcasm, "the father told me" this is sacred, this is faith, it is not tested either by experience or knowledge.
      three days no machine gun crew can stand, they have there one and a half with cartridges? in any division there is artillery, and so on and in the front, to all the assault troops and their own machine guns and not one or two. under their cover, the infantry approaches a grenade throw distance,
      on the edge of mortars, small ones, one will carry away, is in each platoon, The simplest example is
      remember "in the trenches of stalingrad", the very beginning., when they took refuge in a shed and also with a machine gun, for several minutes and they were pelted with mines, barely carried away their legs, and someone stayed there ...
      you should not consider the enemy idiots, but it’s strange, while they reached Moscow ...
  44. 22rus
    22rus 11 July 2012 05: 31
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    Arct,
    Quote: Arkt
    Maybe these instructions were introduced to suppress such cases. Would you like to provide such an opportunity? Not all German army officers blindly followed instructions ... it's about harsh reality ...

    Of course of course!
    The High Command of the Wehrmacht had to introduce such an instruction solely because of the mass insanity of the Germans from admiration for the exploits of Soviet soldiers!
    The further from the war, the more and more cases of magnificent funerals of our soldiers by the enemy. Without leaving the place, I can cite such “real” and absolutely true “cases for a dozen. And each narrator swears by“ mom and dad. ”But some other Germans burned, raped and killed them.
  45. rainer
    rainer 11 July 2012 07: 56
    +1
    Hmm ... apparently the content of this episode of the Second World War really was a magpie legend that could really fire aimed at a distance of up to 800 meters, then the areal, but you can’t shoot a lot without changing the sight and the Germans lie, would you scratch your asses all the time watching them they shoot 17 armored units, this company, when the first machine was hit, would deploy a convoy into a chain and crush a single cannon in mass, I completely believe it about artillery support and fire adjustment, but the question is how?
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