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In Stavropol found the bodies of the pilots of the crew of the crashed Su-25UB

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In the Stavropol Territory, the bodies of the dead pilots of the Su-25UB attack aircraft, which crashed on September 3 during a planned training flight, were discovered. This is reported by "Izvestia" with reference to its source.

In Stavropol found the bodies of the pilots of the crew of the crashed Su-25UB


According to the publication, the search team found the bodies of the pilots Yuri B. and Artem L., who were on board the crashed Su-25UB. Where the bodies are not reported. Earlier, some media wrote that the crew managed to eject, but neither the parachutes nor the pilots themselves were found until the morning. As reported by RIA News"with reference to its source in emergency services, the bodies may be in the cockpit of a fallen plane.

According to information provided by TASS, the commission of the Ministry of Defense is working at the crash site, the search for the crew’s bodies continues.

There is currently no official confirmation from the Ministry of Defense of information on the discovery of the bodies of pilots.

Earlier it was reported that in the Stavropol Territory during a training flight, the Su-25UB attack aircraft crashed, taking off from the Budyonnovsk airfield. According to primary information, the aircraft crew was able to eject. Emergency services were sent to the crash site, a helicopter was raised to search for the crew.

According to TASS, the cause of the Su-25UB accident was the performance of the aerobatics Dead Loop. According to the source of the agency, the pilots could not take the plane out of the dive, as a result of which it collided with the ground. A crater up to 3 meters deep formed at the crash site, the plane itself completely collapsed.

The military suspended flights on the Su-25 in southern Russia until the causes of the emergency were clarified, a source in the military-industrial complex said. This fact is being verified.
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Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
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  1. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 4 September 2019 11: 19
    +24
    My condolences to families, relatives and citizens of the Russian Federation.
    1. Vladimir16
      Vladimir16 4 September 2019 11: 23
      +16
      Voennoye Obozreniye warns that there is currently no official confirmation from the Ministry of Defense about the discovery of the pilots' bodies.

      So why the heck to dump out unconfirmed facts ?????????.

      What does "WARNING" mean?

      Grandmas in the yard whispered in your ear?
      Racing, who will quickly tell the ugly rumor.
      Salvage mind paid off?
      1. Spartanez300
        Spartanez300 4 September 2019 11: 24
        +12
        Sorrow and memory of those who died at the military post. Sincere condolences to the families and friends of the deceased pilots.
        1. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 4 September 2019 11: 47
          +12
          "We ask God to include us with a friend, in some angel regiment ..."
      2. svp67
        svp67 4 September 2019 11: 36
        +3
        Quote: Vladimir16
        So why the heck to dump out unconfirmed facts ?????????.

        Alas, the press service of the RF Ministry of Defense has once again gone "unconscious" and "keeps a proud silence," although it is in such cases that they should be the ones from whom everyone is obliged to receive operational information. But I, unfortunately, tend to believe this "unverified" information. The search operation lasts too long, and this is not a taiga or an ocean, if the pilots were alive, they would have been found long ago by a signal from the "Komar"
        1. 210ox
          210ox 4 September 2019 11: 46
          +3
          Why on the attack plane do a dead loop? Unfortunately, yesterday as soon as time began to drag on, the pilots died .. The guys left forever in the sky ..
          1. Ka-52
            Ka-52 4 September 2019 12: 25
            +14
            Why on the attack plane do a dead loop?

            why do they perform complex aerobatics? The reasons for the development of an emergency with the Nesterov loop can be several:
            - low height of the beginning of the maneuver;
            - in the first half of the loop, the control knob is too energetically taken over, a large overload is created - the plane loses speed, warning shaking appears. There is a prerequisite for stalling
            - when entering the loop, the control knob is slowly taken over - the angular velocity is small, the radius of the loop increases, the plane goes to the top point at a less evolutionary speed;
            - when approaching the top point of the loop, the engine speed decreases early - the plane loses speed. There is a prerequisite for stalling
            - when approaching the top point of the loop, the self-control knob is energetically selected - the probability of stalling into a corkscrew;
            - the plane abruptly dives out of flight - large overloads, possible loss
            speed and warning shaking. There is a prerequisite for stalling
            Maneuver is not easy. If the stall occurred at a low altitude, the reaction could simply not be enough. Still not a rare cause of disasters
            1. Ka-52
              Ka-52 4 September 2019 12: 54
              +2
              Yes, I forgot. At low speed on stall, at critical angles of attack, they could easily catch the surge of the engine (s) and then everything is dramatic.
            2. Airmedved
              Airmedved 4 September 2019 13: 24
              +3
              The crew worked with a very experienced instructor. It is hard to imagine that on the way out of the figure, they simply did not have enough speed. But the Rooks' crews often suffered from the loss of spatial crews. The machine is maneuverable, steadily controlled at SMEs, up to stall speeds. And Rook does not have a warning shaking of the RUS. "Thanks" to the brilliant EDSU. The RI-65b device is installed in the cockpit, or "Rita", which always has some kind of "limiting modes" in terms of temperature, speed, altitude, thrust, angle of attack. I do not like Rook, there is no "responsiveness" in him. On aerobatic basis, it is probably similar to some sort of bomber.
          2. LON
            LON 4 September 2019 13: 58
            -11
            Quote: 210ox
            Why on the attack plane do a dead loop?

            Yes, so that the people would once again be excited by the next, not natural opportunities, of Russian weapons. Everything is done for you. Imagine how many rave comments there would be.
      3. major071
        major071 4 September 2019 13: 12
        +3
        The information has already been confirmed in emergency services and in the military prosecutor's office of the Southern Military District. Fragments of bodies found in the cockpit of an aircraft that went underground. It’s just that the Defense Ministry is once again waiting for no one knows what and is afraid to confirm what was clear last night. after the crew was not found. hi
      4. Aleksandr21
        Aleksandr21 4 September 2019 13: 22
        +1
        Quote: Vladimir16

        So why the heck to dump out unconfirmed facts ?????????.

        What does "WARNING" mean?

        Grandmas in the yard whispered in your ear?
        Racing, who will quickly tell the ugly rumor.
        Salvage mind paid off?


        Already unfortunately confirmed:

        "The commission of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, working at the site of the crash of the Su-25UB aircraft in the Stavropol Territory, established the death of two pilots. The pilots did not manage to eject," the military department said in a statement, RIA Novosti reports.
  2. Victor_B
    Victor_B 4 September 2019 11: 21
    +2
    Gone to the sky ...
    And dissolved in the blue ...
  3. WILL
    WILL 4 September 2019 11: 22
    +4
    Very sorry Guys! I hoped that they would find them alive ... alas. Bright memory!
    Sincerely condolences to the Family and Friends.
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 4 September 2019 11: 30
      -4
      What is it? !!! What is the habit of burying ahead of time? !!! Apart from the Izvestia "source", no one confirmed that the bodies were found !!! Neither the Ministry of Emergencies, nor the Ministry of Defense! And here is the commemoration.
      1. WILL
        WILL 4 September 2019 11: 36
        0
        I agree with you, this is like an element of the information war ... I read the article, wrote a comment ... then I ran through the news ... I realized that I was in a hurry ... I did not expect from VO not verified information. Mine is your plus.
        1. 210ox
          210ox 4 September 2019 11: 47
          +2
          On Yandex, half an hour ago it was already.
      2. Zeev Zeev
        Zeev Zeev 4 September 2019 12: 05
        +3
        During the time that has passed since the disaster, it was already possible to comb the entire area on foot.
  4. Timon2155
    Timon2155 4 September 2019 11: 22
    +2
    Sorry guys. Rest in peace. Notice that all the bad news is reported in pieces, leaving the hope that everything will be fine !? Like, catapulted. We think everything is normal, it’s more likely that we survived. Then, they found parachutes, and about the pilots, again silent. Everyone is already tensed. Well, then, finish. So it was with Kursk: lay down, save, then, sh ...
    1. The Little Humpbacked Horse
      The Little Humpbacked Horse 4 September 2019 11: 35
      -3
      Quote: Timon2155
      Notice that all the bad news is reported in pieces, leaving the hope that everything will be fine !?


      Yes, they noticed, and with the Winter Cherry, it was the same, gradually reported an increasing number of victims, although initially they knew how many silent mobile phones are in the complex
  5. Olya Tsako
    Olya Tsako 4 September 2019 11: 22
    0
    SORRY GUYS, STAVROPOLIE not the taiga, would be, alive, already found, would. It’s a pity the right people, patriots of Russia. And so with us-
    catastrophic demographic pit.
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 4 September 2019 11: 23
    +6
    Regrettably. Condolences to the families and friends of the deceased.
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 4 September 2019 11: 25
    +2
    Did the loop, at low altitude? And with a dive into the ground? They could have catapulted in time, but they would not have carried it far. On the other hand, since they are looking, it means that they were not found at the crash site. It cannot be that everything is so smitten ... Hope remains. Yes, less and less.
  8. Nycomed
    Nycomed 4 September 2019 11: 25
    +3
    My condolences ... I really wanted to believe that everything would work out ...
  9. svp67
    svp67 4 September 2019 11: 30
    +6
    My condolences to relatives, friends, colleagues and all our people. We lost two more of our "falcons"
    And again there are MANY questions to the press service of the RF Ministry of Defense. Why, in these situations, the news does not come from this department, but from the "OBS"
    1. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 4 September 2019 12: 33
      +4
      Sergey, knowledgeable people already knew yesterday. It seems like intentionally MO did not comment, I understand that. I see nothing bad in this.
      1. Russia
        Russia 4 September 2019 13: 01
        +4
        hi I agree, they get them out of the funnel slowly along with the debris. The army around the media are the same pigeons, as in the BDT they peck everything from the hand of the person who submitted it.
  10. Never mind
    Never mind 4 September 2019 11: 32
    0
    God grant that it would be a mistake!
  11. Thrifty
    Thrifty 4 September 2019 11: 32
    +1
    Yes, it’s clear that the pilots died, but we don’t want to believe in it, and we can’t. ..we hope for a miracle. ..
  12. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 4 September 2019 11: 33
    +4
    Moderators, figure out who is so actively minus condolences to the families of the victims. Someone is obviously very happy about what happened.
    1. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 4 September 2019 11: 35
      -1
      And so I can say this is Nycomed.
    2. K-612-O
      K-612-O 4 September 2019 11: 40
      0
      What am I glad about? What is buried ahead of time? When the bodies are found, or even more so living pilots, then it's worth starting a conversation. And the "source" of Izvestia is not an official media outlet or the Ministry of Emergencies or the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
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  14. Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 4 September 2019 11: 36
    +4
    bright memory .... condolences to the family ...
  15. Voyager
    Voyager 4 September 2019 11: 39
    0
    There is a term "Nesterov's loop". Much better than The Dead Loop, especially in such topics.
  16. bober1982
    bober1982 4 September 2019 11: 41
    +1
    According to TASS, the cause of the accident was the performance of aerobatics Loop........
    It is difficult to imagine more ridiculous information, such aerobatics on the Su-25 are performed by pilots of aerobatic teams, and not pilots of combat regiments during training flights. Everybody writes and reports.
    1. NN52
      NN52 4 September 2019 12: 52
      +2
      beaver 1982
      You’re a little mistaken ... In ShA, difficult aerobatics for MV are present in the KBP (this is certainly not their main task), but the guys fly, the KBP has not been canceled ... And the lieutenants were not in the cockpit, but VERY experienced guys .. .
      So they remained in it, unfortunately ...
      My condolences to the close guys.
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 4 September 2019 13: 26
        0
        He called his commander (pilot) back, specified, he said that Su-25s fly freely on such exercises. I’m still a navigator by profession, in aerodynamics I’m not strong.
        1. Ka-52
          Ka-52 4 September 2019 15: 55
          0
          He called his commander (pilot) back, specified, he said that the Su-25 fly freely

          it is not clear why there were doubts. Cabrioled bombing is essentially a half-loop with a turn. Combat maneuvering. The other day, the Operator argued on this topic.
          1. bober1982
            bober1982 4 September 2019 18: 42
            0
            Quote: Ka-52
            Cabrioled bombing is essentially a half-loop with a turn

            He told me so, he had experience, still on the Su-7
  17. sanya_sergant
    sanya_sergant 4 September 2019 11: 44
    +4
    Well this is such a misfortune. Again Budenovsk, Su-25. Again yesterday they wrote that it was just an accident, that they catapulted. And here is a disaster on you.
    Che is wrong with this Su-25.
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      1. bober1982
        bober1982 4 September 2019 12: 03
        0
        Quote: Rook25
        The list of new terms will be supplemented, watch carefully

        Not comments - but verbal diarrhea, you can add to your list.
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          1. bober1982
            bober1982 4 September 2019 12: 14
            0
            Quote: Rook25
            You can create your own list of modern terminology

            You have compiled this list, and the flag is in your hands.
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              1. bober1982
                bober1982 4 September 2019 12: 34
                +1
                Quote: Rook25
                and the flag in your hands

                You are very annoying.
                1. Rook25
                  Rook25 4 September 2019 12: 38
                  -3
                  And you - and there is no special knowledge))) And it will not, apparently.
                  1. bober1982
                    bober1982 4 September 2019 12: 45
                    -2
                    Quote: Rook25
                    And it will not, apparently

                    I agree - it will not, only a moment remains, between the past and the future.
  18. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 4 September 2019 12: 04
    +1
    So the pilots were found or not, only water.
  19. Romv
    Romv 4 September 2019 12: 08
    +2
    Kingdom of heaven to warriors ....
    Condolences to the family ....
  20. SASHA OLD
    SASHA OLD 4 September 2019 12: 38
    +1
    Here zhezh ...
    Still, they died, or they wrote one or the other in the news and hope remained.
    Condolences to the deceased.
    Pilots - rest in peace
  21. Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 4 September 2019 12: 44
    +3
    My condolences to the families of the victims.
    1. Rushnairfors
      Rushnairfors 5 September 2019 18: 21
      0
      Good evening everyone (or day), my monkans write that they were not on the loop, they performed the complex "dive-slide with an angle of 30", already on the dive, the flap spontaneously released, well, then I think everything is clear - the plane turned like a drill into the ground , by the way, whoever saw the photo of the disaster will understand what I mean ... I entered almost vertically at a large angle, it is clear that the vertical was twisted (it is possible, of course, and PN, but they write that they dived) eternal memory ...
      1. Rushnairfors
        Rushnairfors 5 September 2019 18: 24
        0
        By the way, not so long ago (about 5-7 years ago) the Su25 already had a similar catastrophe, also associated with the non-synchronous spontaneous release of mechanization in flight, so this is not the first case