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For thrown urn in riot police asked five years in prison

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The activist who threw the ballot box at a riot police during an uncoordinated rally in the center of Moscow on July 27 is wanted to be sentenced to 5 years in prison. The prosecutor demands that Yevgeny Kovalenko be sent to a general colony, the lawyer, in turn, asks to dismiss the charges and fully justify the protester.




The state prosecutor demands five years of the general regime colony to be awarded to Yevgeny Kovalenko: during an uncoordinated opposition rally in central Moscow, he attacked a law enforcement official, throwing an urn in him. The prosecutor believes that the guilt of the accused is fully proven.

In turn, the defense of Kovalenko, accused under part 1 of article 318 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (use of violence against a government official) notes that the abandoned ballot box did not hit the employees of the Russian Guard and did not harm anyone.

The verdict will be announced today, September 4. Also today, two more participants in the illegal actions, Konstantin Kotov and Kirill Zhukov, should be sentenced. According to investigators, Kotov repeatedly violated the rules for holding public events, and Zhukov was accused of using non-dangerous violence against a government official.

Promoters were also tried


In addition, the Zamoskvoretsky court of Moscow arrested activist Mark Halperin for 30 days. Against him, as well as against Kotov, he was charged with repeated violation of the rules of participation in a public event. The defense has already expressed a desire to appeal the decision in the Moscow City Court, as well as in the European Court of Human Rights.

Halperin was detained on September 3, along with Sergei Boyko, leader of the unregistered Libertarian Party of Russia (LPR). The head of the decision-maker was detained for calling for the participation of an uncoordinated action, which took place on August 31. For participation in the organization of the uncoordinated event, Boyko was sent to custody for ten days.

Decisions announced in several cases


Currently, Moscow courts have announced decisions in several other cases related to uncoordinated shares in Moscow. The most severe punishment in the form of 5 years of imprisonment was received by blogger Vladislav Sinitsa, who on Twitter threatened to kidnap and kill children of security forces who participated in the rallies.

Two defendants were convicted under an article on the use of violence against a representative of the authorities (Article 318 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation). In particular, Ivan Podkopaev received three years in prison - he sprayed gas from a spray can in the direction of the Rosguards. Another participant in the rally, Daniil Beglets, pushed the policeman - for this he received two years.

Also, a number of defendants were reassigned to administrative ones, and Zhukov, who was accused of extremism, was completely dropped. In respect of the five persons involved, the Investigative Committee stopped the paperwork.
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  1. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 4 September 2019 11: 38
    -41
    Five years is probably too much, a good fine is enough for the first time so that it’s not bad.
    1. Vladimir16
      Vladimir16 4 September 2019 11: 40
      +62
      "An activist who threw a ballot box at a riot policeman ..."
      What does "activist" mean?
      He’s a bully.
      You can’t throw bins at the policeman. wink

      Active pederast is also an activist?

      If this "activist" a passer-by will break his head with an urn? Will an activist hit with an urn go to the police with beatings?
      Or is this a normal practice for "activists"? laughing
      1. Vladimir16
        Vladimir16 4 September 2019 11: 44
        +3
        Quote: Spartanez300
        quite a good fine so that it was not discouraging.

        And then you can give the policeman a loot in the amount of a fine and immediately throw it in an urn. wassat
        You have a fun life. wink laughing

        And what prices do you offer?
        Announce the entire list.
        For example, the head of the district urn is how much?
        Or the premiere?
        If the amount is large, people will chip in and express their disagreement with the bin with the official’s actions. wassat
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 4 September 2019 12: 33
          +17
          Quote: Vladimir16
          And what prices do you offer? Announce the entire list.
          For example, the head of the district urn is how much?
          Or the premiere?
          If the amount is large, people will chip in and express their disagreement with the bin with the official’s actions.

          Ha! In Japan, for example, in the psychological discharge room there are mannequins of bosses for free beating them by employees whom these bosses offended.

          In the Russian Federation 8 years ago, the question was asked:
          - If we had such a house in our country, then who would you like to have a mannequin for these purposes? What would you do with him ... with a rubber dummy?
          One of the 8-year-old ANSWERS:
          - Red Tolyan !!! And I would not say what I would do with it.
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 4 September 2019 12: 49
            +9
            If he hit that urn on the head, he could have killed it.
            I note, not just an attempt to kill, but an attempt to kill a person during execution. Uniformed!
            5 years is a very mild sentence.
            Moreover, in a year he will be released under an amnesty, as a repentant and for exemplary behavior.
            1. Nasrat
              Nasrat 4 September 2019 13: 00
              -18
              Quote: Shurik70

              5 years is a very mild sentence.


              As they say in VO - under Stalin would - the execution is guaranteed! And all the protesters ... feel
              1. Shurik70
                Shurik70 4 September 2019 13: 03
                +20
                Come on! Occupational therapy for 99%! In a sharply continental climate.
                Workers in the USSR were always needed. Even such.
                Shooting is for the most dangerous.
              2. sir.jonn
                sir.jonn 4 September 2019 14: 27
                +35
                Quote: Nasr
                As they say in VO - under Stalin would - the execution is guaranteed! And all the protesters ...

                Under Stalin, it’s unlikely, but in the USA he wouldn’t even have time to lift this ballot box before a policeman.
              3. zloybond
                zloybond 4 September 2019 16: 01
                -7
                I think the advocates of these activists (lawyers), too, it’s time to attract ... it’s time for them to build a career in the coal mines ..... for the support of the forces that undermine national security ... so to speak)
              4. DPN
                DPN 4 September 2019 21: 51
                +3
                That is why the USSR collapsed, as it was considered just hooliganism and did not use FORCE.
              5. aiden
                aiden 5 September 2019 20: 22
                0
                Yes, not even under Stalin there was a Novocherkassk execution
            2. Rzzz
              Rzzz 4 September 2019 13: 47
              -28
              Quote: Shurik70
              faces at execution. Uniformed!

              Do not confuse. A person in clothes without insignia and with a closed face. This is not a uniform, it is a camouflage of a soldier performing a task on enemy territory.
              1. Mestny
                Mestny 4 September 2019 13: 59
                +9
                Aggressive brainwashed skakuas are enemies.
                Only here is our territory.
              2. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. 4 September 2019 21: 55
                +5
                Does this also apply to firefighters?
              3. Rzzz
                Rzzz 5 September 2019 08: 56
                -5
                Wow, how many minuses in half a day. Let's get to -100 ??

                What is significant, with so many dissatisfied - not a single answer with the statement of their position. Poked a quiet minus sign, and into the bushes.
                1. Frieda
                  Frieda 5 September 2019 14: 43
                  +7
                  Quote: rzzz
                  Wow, how many minuses in half a day. Let's get to -100 ??

                  Well, let's try.
                  Quote: rzzz
                  Quote: Shurik70
                  faces at execution. Uniformed!

                  Do not confuse. A person in clothes without insignia and with a closed face. This is not a form, this is a camouflage of a soldier performing a task on enemy territory.

                  You probably do not know for what purpose the OMON and the Russian Guard were created? No, not in order to "press them". These structures were created to fight organized crime (OMON) and terrorism (Rossguardia), therefore, the requirements for anonymity, bandits and terrorists, you know, and families can recoup. The most recent example: the other day, the 18-year-old daughter of an FSB officer Kuznetsov, who died in Beslan, was killed (stabbed) the day after the opening of the monument to this officer. But you surely believe in Dud's "truth" and consider FSB officers terrorists, and Chechen bandits as "freedom fighters" and victims, on a par with murdered children? I will not be surprised, otherwise you would not have asked such questions. These people are fighting the enemy, but not against someone else's, as you deigned to say, but on their own territory, with an enemy who entered this territory from the outside, or originated inside. If you think that in order to "calm down" the liberda and others, the employees should wear some other form instead of the regular uniform, then alas, but you are a juvenile bulkhead, or an over-aged infantile, there is no third way.
                  1. Rzzz
                    Rzzz 7 September 2019 03: 09
                    -1
                    Quote: Rededi
                    These structures were created to combat organized crime (riot police) and terrorism (Rossguard)

                    And what, they were doing this in the center of Moscow? Have you arrested a lot of organized criminals? Have a lot of terrorists got caught? Do you think the "guards" who beat the lying woman with clubs and ankle boots will go against the barmaley with a submachine gun, and they will close the child? Fuck, it's not their job.
                    Protesters killed an officer’s daughter in the center of Moscow? What are you all interfering in one pile?
                    I agree, they are fighting the enemy. But think about it. Not about who their enemies are, they are just hired workers, plowing with clubs for money, and not very big. It is more interesting to think about who the enemies of their employers are. And count it, it’s not Bulk at all, it’s even profitable for them.
                    And personal arrivals are a bad form in a constructive dialogue. Especially by age, given that he is indicated in the profile. I, in turn, can assume that you are some kind of activist from some unarmarmia or another sharashka who was released from the campaign on Friday early, before the day of silence, because on Sunday I’ll ride around the polls all day long.
                    1. Frieda
                      Frieda 29 September 2019 18: 11
                      -1
                      Quote: rzzz
                      I, in turn, can assume that you are some kind of activist from some unarmarmia or another sharashka who was released from the campaign on Friday early, before the day of silence, because on Sunday I’ll ride around the polls all day long.
                      You You have the right to assume that you want, you’re a fighter for everything beaver against any donkey. Poking, by the way, is also bad form. The construct in dialogue with the bulk cannot be a priori. And as for who, whom, and with what will close, when you see the barmaley, you know better, it’s you who drive with the bulk in the mountains of these barmalei, and not the Russian Guard. It is so?
                      1. Rzzz
                        Rzzz 5 October 2019 17: 09
                        0
                        Quote: Rededi
                        Poking, by the way, is also bad form.


                        No, everything is fine. This is even correct. In Russian, "you" is a form respectful addressing a person. But respect must be earned. You run into a stranger from the place. You accuse without any reason from the rather terrible, from your point of view, sins. Of course, these accusations do not sadden me, but that's a different story. So what kind of respect are you talking about? With such interlocutors they speak not in "you", but exclusively in obscene expressions, but I will not, it is impossible here.
                        This is the behavior of extremely young Internet heroes, trying to compensate for their inferiority and lack of attention from classmates. And it’s not worth it to respect you for that.
                      2. Frieda
                        Frieda 16 October 2019 21: 56
                        +1
                        Quote: rzzz
                        Quote: Rededi
                        Poking, by the way, is also bad form.


                        No, everything is fine. This is even correct. In Russian, "you" is a form respectful addressing a person. But respect must be earned. You run into a stranger from the place. You accuse without any reason from the rather terrible, from your point of view, sins. Of course, these accusations do not sadden me, but that's a different story. So what kind of respect are you talking about? With such interlocutors they speak not in "you", but exclusively in obscene expressions, but I will not, it is impossible here.
                        This is the behavior of extremely young Internet heroes, trying to compensate for their inferiority and lack of attention from classmates. And it’s not worth it to respect you for that.

                        This can only be normal for cattle and gopota. And I consider it beneath my dignity to "deserve" anything in front of you and those like you. As for the classmates, I am amused, now it is clear to which category you consider yourself, you are our "adult". laughing Adyu, "brother", husk the seeds.
                      3. Rzzz
                        Rzzz 16 October 2019 22: 37
                        0
                        Well, I'm sorry that I do not fit into your high standards. Although I think in your way, I don’t allow myself to go over to personalities and insults.
                        And in fact, neither your age nor your level of development is absolutely unimportant to me. But something that bothers you. Are you jealous of what?

                        OK, have a rest. You are our moral.
                      4. Frieda
                        Frieda 20 October 2019 20: 07
                        0
                        Quote: rzzz
                        Well, I'm sorry that I do not fit into your high standards. Although I think in your way, I don’t allow myself to go over to personalities and insults.
                        And in fact, neither your age nor your level of development is absolutely unimportant to me. But something that bothers you. Are you jealous of what?

                        OK, have a rest. You are our moral.

                        Do not flatter yourself... classmate, you are absolutely parallel to me. And about the one who allows himself something, re-read your own posts. Adieu, dude.
                      5. Rzzz
                        Rzzz 20 October 2019 22: 16
                        0
                        Oh you. Here you are overexcited as ... Autumn aggravation? Have you stopped taking haloperidol again? The doctor warned that it’s impossible!
                      6. Frieda
                        Frieda 15 November 2019 23: 01
                        0
                        Quote: rzzz
                        Oh you. Here you are overexcited as ... Autumn aggravation? Have you stopped taking haloperidol again? The doctor warned that it’s impossible!

                        I am not familiar with your doctor, hello to him from me. laughing
                      7. Rzzz
                        Rzzz 15 November 2019 23: 23
                        -1
                        Yes, calm down, how much can you? Are you released once a month from the madhouse and you start writing to me?
                        I said everything two months ago, wake up !!
              4. srn
                srn 6 September 2019 09: 52
                -1
                YOUR territory will never be. your territory is near the bucket, sorry-Kolo Maidan.
                1. Rzzz
                  Rzzz 7 September 2019 03: 20
                  -1
                  Give me your moydan? Go there yourself, there you have the place, you love to ride. I am a Muscovite in the third generation, this is my city and my country. And I think you’re suited to be my sons by age, although you need to strangle such sons in childhood. But where such a trash comes from, which immediately turns to personality - I do not know, and I do not want to know.
                  1. srn
                    srn 7 September 2019 10: 13
                    -1
                    You are not a person, you are a client of "Auchan" and "Pyaterochka" - a worthless third generation "visa" card holder. And the fifth generation will have a Tajik mayor. you need to pray for Putin)))))))
                    1. Rzzz
                      Rzzz 7 September 2019 11: 31
                      -2
                      Whoa whoa,! Why are you so aggressive? Classmates do not pay attention? A Visa card is still not issued by age?
                      Tell me, dear man, where do you buy food, if not in Auchan or in the top five? Or do you only visit "beer on tap" shops with five liter cans?
                      1. srn
                        srn 7 September 2019 11: 58
                        -1
                        , in the "beer shops" it is best seen that your grandchildren will pay taxes to Tajiks.
            3. Kalmar
              Kalmar 4 September 2019 17: 19
              +16
              Quote: Shurik70
              If he hit that urn on the head, he could have killed it.

              Indiscreet question: did you see that urn? And how did he throw it? The video is full: are you really sure you could kill?

              Quote: Shurik70
              I note, not just an attempt to kill, but an attempt to kill a person during execution.

              I even reviewed the video: in any way, an attempted murder. The poor cop miraculously left. The order for courage will be awarded later, probably.

              Quote: Shurik70
              5 years is a very mild sentence.

              To shoot, to the bows.

              PS Meanwhile, in Buryatia, the police officers who tortured the detainees were given suspended sentences. That's it, little ones.
            4. Campanella
              Campanella 4 September 2019 20: 18
              +5
              Are you completely dead? 5 years is not enough?
              In the USSR, 15 was the maximum speed. And now they are imprisoning for no good reason. Democracy is stoned ...
            5. major147
              major147 5 September 2019 09: 19
              +2
              Quote: Shurik70
              If he hit that urn on the head, he could have killed it.

              It’s like a shot at a man, but didn’t hit. So not guilty?
              1. Fan-fan
                Fan-fan 5 September 2019 16: 10
                +2
                "You are so zealous to judge the sins of others, start with your own and you won't get to strangers."
                - W. Shakespeare
                1. Dart2027
                  Dart2027 5 September 2019 19: 42
                  +2
                  Quote: Fan-Fan
                  Judge the sins of others You are so eager to start, start with your

                  So start with yours who are against?
            6. w70
              w70 5 September 2019 20: 30
              +2
              When will our "Woe Patriots" begin to see the connection between the lack of independent courts and freedom of assembly and hospital queues? No, they will continue to shout "Damned liberals"!
          2. The black
            The black 5 September 2019 06: 27
            +3
            Quote: Tatiana
            - Red Tolyan !!! And I would not say what I would do with it.

            Ginger Tolyan would be the best-selling mannequin. laughing
          3. Maz
            Maz 5 September 2019 15: 01
            +3
            You better read about the Japanese prison, it is very motivating. If we had such a thing, it's not like the ballot box in riot police, but we would be afraid to throw a speck of dust.
            1. SARANCHA1976
              SARANCHA1976 5 September 2019 22: 00
              +1
              First, see how they live.
          4. w70
            w70 5 September 2019 20: 37
            +3
            One tried to run into Ryzhiy Tolyan, then sat down
      2. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 4 September 2019 12: 10
        +7
        Quote: Vladimir16
        What does "activist" mean?
        He’s a bully.
        You can’t throw bins at the policeman.

        Such a correct thought. And, most importantly, timely. And with what to do?

        How is this all familiar ...
        1. mvd ru
          mvd ru 4 September 2019 12: 45
          +4
          How easy it was with "such" in the 90s, when there weren't any smartphones, there was no Internet, sometimes 2 to 5 coped dashingly wink
          1. German Titov
            German Titov 4 September 2019 21: 02
            +5
            Relaxing under the knee. Or "to strangle" (the main thing is not to overdo it). But then there was someone to treat such "activists". I always believed that it was permissible to "extinguish" resistance during arrest (otherwise, you could run into a "rose"). The use of force is permissible if
            [/ quote] Immediate danger to life, health, employee, citizens or protected object [quote]
      3. evgenii67
        evgenii67 4 September 2019 12: 52
        +36

        Well, as it were
        1. DEDPIHTO
          DEDPIHTO 4 September 2019 13: 02
          +36
          Well, yes, and we live. Serf to the law, the gentleman with the courtyard-immunity. A law is only a law when it is written the same for everyone and is executed by absolutely everyone without exception. In this case, the law is a brush in one hand.
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 4 September 2019 18: 59
            +1
            Quote: DEPHIHTO
            In this case, the law is a brush in one hand.
            Meehan, good. that remembered about the brush ...
            1. DEDPIHTO
              DEDPIHTO 4 September 2019 19: 03
              +2
              Quote: sabakina
              Quote: DEPHIHTO
              In this case, the law is a brush in one hand.
              Meehan, good. that remembered about the brush ...
              Tin ... why smoke ??. belay They take me for the Zaputinist Mikhan, for what ???? crying angry
              1. sabakina
                sabakina 4 September 2019 19: 08
                0
                Well, then I’ve got it. I still wondered how Mikhan got to the half-cannon. And the Zaputinians are confused?
        2. Konatantin 1992
          Konatantin 1992 4 September 2019 13: 10
          -8
          Well, dear you are ours))) (no offense if that) Do you understand that these are inconvenient examples and questions? it is necessary for the "people" to show that it is impossible to touch the defenders of the regime, they act within the framework of the "law." And you all sit and say nothing .... or else you wanted it like in France or Hong Kong, or whatever you want in the USA? here are the typical responses of "patriots". And what else can you expect if Peskov in 2012 called for smearing the liver of protesters on the asphalt for a wounded riot policeman .... I wouldn't go to a rally either, it makes no sense ... But in my city (15 thousand people) I know everyone cops)))) so it's not a matter of fear.
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 4 September 2019 19: 58
            +4
            Quote: Konatantin 1992
            because they wanted it like in France or Hong Kong, or how do you want in the USA?

            Sometimes yes. As rightly noted here
            Quote: sir.jonn
            in the USA, he wouldn’t even have time to raise this ballot box in front of a policeman
            As for the fact that in the police you can find those who violate the law, this fact does not negate the fact that in this particular case the offender was not a police officer.
            1. Fan-fan
              Fan-fan 5 September 2019 16: 28
              -1
              Here are two events from the judicial chronicle.
              A resident of Blagoveshchensk received four years for theft from a kiosk 4,5 thousand rubles. And the contractor of the President’s Administrative Cases, Vasily Smirnov, accused of frauds of many millions, was released from custody: the judges said that “they were guided by the principle of humanism”.
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 5 September 2019 19: 45
                +2
                Quote: Fan-Fan
                Here are two events from the judicial chronicle.

                Quote: Dart2027
                As for the fact that in the police you can find those who violate the law, this fact does not negate the fact that in this particular case the offender was not a police officer.
        3. freddyk
          freddyk 4 September 2019 13: 18
          +4
          Quote: evgenii67

          Well, as it were

          You are aware, of course, that the State has a monopoly on violence. (Sarcasm, if that)
          1. DEDPIHTO
            DEDPIHTO 4 September 2019 13: 25
            +19
            Quote: freddyk
            You are aware, of course, that the State has a monopoly on violence. (Sarcasm, if that)
            Good sarcasm. In our country, those who call themselves the state have long lived in their well-fed, prosperous little world separate from the country and people. So maybe they are not a state at all ???
            1. your1970
              your1970 4 September 2019 18: 11
              +2
              Quote: DEPHIHTO
              Quote: freddyk
              You are aware, of course, that the State has a monopoly on violence. (Sarcasm, if that)
              Good sarcasm. In our country, those who call themselves the state have long lived in their well-fed, prosperous little world separate from the country and people. So maybe they are not a state at all ???
              - in a glorious and democratic USA in the above video there would be at least 5 corpses of citizens ...
              apparently American cops live
              Quote: DEPHIHTO
              in a well-fed, prosperous little world separate from the country and people.
              1. DEDPIHTO
                DEDPIHTO 4 September 2019 19: 00
                +3
                As for the corpses in the United States, so beloved by your guards, the population is well armed with short barrels, hence the bloodthirstiness of the local policemen who shoot at the “advances” at any slightest suspicion. We would have had the same thing, if not worse ... And the flip side of the coin with the civilian short-barrel, the powerful would treat the law with great reverence, once again they would think, rape or torture, in return you can get a bullet, if not immediately then later.
                1. your1970
                  your1970 4 September 2019 19: 48
                  +2
                  Quote: DEPHIHTO
                  . And the flip side of the coin with a civilian short-barrel - the powers that be would treat the law with more reverence, once again they would think, rape or torture-in response, you can get a bullet, if not immediately then later.
                  -and in response гарантированный a prick or a chair - "premeditated murder of a policeman." For this article, ANY country of the world with a criminal do not chip
                2. AU Ivanov.
                  AU Ivanov. 4 September 2019 21: 53
                  0
                  In response to the use of the short barrels by law enforcement, it will be possible to catch a completely legitimate turnover from the automatic.
                  1. DEDPIHTO
                    DEDPIHTO 5 September 2019 06: 13
                    +4
                    Aw, wake up both fool It was about crimes committed by law enforcement officers, what injections, what is a legitimate flow ?? request
                    ps but in general nothing surprising, edroids are always ready to justify any abomination of their socially close ones.
                3. major147
                  major147 5 September 2019 09: 25
                  -1
                  Quote: DEPHIHTO
                  As for the corpses in the United States, so beloved by your guards, the population is well armed with short barrels,

                  And what difference does it make to a policeman than being killed? Urine or bullet? Or in Russia the police are "bloodthirsty satraps" and in the USA "the bright bearers of democracy"?
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        4. Stas157
          Stas157 4 September 2019 13: 50
          +15
          the abandoned ballot box did not hit the employees of the Russian Guard and did not harm anyone.

          Five years for past abandoned ballot box ?! Gee ... And by car past Can I drive? A car will be any more dangerous than an urn. I’ll bypass the gendarmes, otherwise I’ll suddenly carry a bag from my hands past drop out - qualify as an attack!

          If this goes so, then soon for an oblique look in their direction, they will begin to hang up the term. Because smerds need to bend their neck and look at the floor. And the gendarmes will beat the Smerds abundantly ... and for a good salary.
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 4 September 2019 20: 00
            0
            Quote: Stas157
            Five years past an abandoned urn ?! Gee ... Can you drive by car?

            That is, if the killer misses when trying to kill, then he does not need to be judged?
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 5 September 2019 12: 27
              +1
              Quote: Dart2027
              if the killer misses when trying to kill, then he does not need to be judged?

              So I say, soon behind an oblique cast of a glance they will be recorded in killers. Who do you think killer? Killers, if they want to kill, do not use ballot boxes.
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 5 September 2019 19: 41
                +1
                Quote: Stas157
                Killers, if they want to kill, do not use ballot boxes.

                And they are not given 4-5 years.
                Quote: Stas157
                soon after the scythe cast a glance

                Some are needed.
          2. Xscorpion
            Xscorpion 4 September 2019 21: 22
            +2
            He got rid of cheaply, in the USA he would have ended up in the morgue if he hadn’t even thrown it. Do you think that if a thief crawled into the house and didn’t manage to steal anything, is this not a thief? A murderer who did not manage to kill is not a killer? A rapist who didn’t have time to rape, it’s also innocent? There are laws, you must comply, and not whine later, which is unfair.
          3. major147
            major147 5 September 2019 09: 28
            +1
            Quote: Stas157
            Five years past an abandoned urn ?! Gee ...

            That is, if you were shot at, but didn’t hit, then there is no problem? So according to your logic?
            1. major147
              major147 5 September 2019 11: 38
              +2
              Quote: major147
              Quote: Stas157
              Five years past an abandoned urn ?! Gee ...

              That is, if you were shot at, but didn’t hit, then there is no problem? So according to your logic?

              But what, instead of a reasoned objection, is it more familiar with a minus (urn) in the back?
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          5. brat07
            brat07 6 September 2019 02: 21
            +1
            Is it possible to drive by car? A car will be any more dangerous than an urn. I’ll bypass the gendarmes, otherwise I’ll suddenly accidentally drop a bag from my hands - they qualify as an attack!

            If this goes so, then soon for an oblique look in their direction, they will begin to hang up the term.

            But people are able to bring the topic under discussion to the point of absurdity.
            You are wonderful!
            Bravo, standing ovation!
        5. Mestny
          Mestny 4 September 2019 14: 01
          -9
          And who are the cops? What kind of structure is this in the state?
          Oh yeah, it’s so customary among young fighters with the cutting regime - it’s dirty to distort words and slop everything that is in the state. But for our loved ones to demand justice and the law.
          Well, here is the law for you.
        6. Nasrat
          Nasrat 4 September 2019 14: 20
          +8
          Well, as it were:
          1. Beringovsky
            Beringovsky 4 September 2019 16: 42
            +9
            Why not start from there?
            Why do you need to start with batons? Not from roads, healthcare, social security like in Germany, not from economics and science, citizens' rights, corruption, etc.? Why with batons then ?!
            1. polar fox
              polar fox 4 September 2019 17: 27
              +7
              Quote: Beringovsky
              Why with batons then ?!

              what the mind is enough ...
            2. Dart2027
              Dart2027 4 September 2019 20: 02
              +6
              Quote: Beringovsky
              Why do you need to start with batons? Not with

              Health care at German rates? Sure?
              1. lelik613
                lelik613 5 September 2019 07: 23
                +1
                They are working on it, do not worry.
            3. major147
              major147 5 September 2019 09: 30
              +2
              Quote: Beringovsky
              Why not start from there?
              Why do you need to start with batons? Not from roads, healthcare, social security like in Germany, not from economics and science, citizens' rights, corruption, etc.? Why with batons then ?!

              The counter-question is, why do you need to start with throwing urns, and not cleaning them with the same crap nature?
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 5 September 2019 19: 40
                +2
                Quote: major147
                why you need to start by throwing bins, and not cleaning them crap nature

                So it is necessary to work.
            4. brat07
              brat07 6 September 2019 03: 17
              -1
              Quote: Beringovsky
              Why not start from there?
              Why do you need to start with batons? Not from roads, healthcare, social security like in Germany, not from economics and science, citizens' rights, corruption, etc.? Why with batons then ?!

              Sorry, but do not skip the topic of discussion.
              On the question of "clubs" in Germany.
              They also have a place to be there. And some more.
              But the question of health, roads,
              Social Security in Germany, then this is another topic.
              Do you agree with me?
          2. Deck
            Deck 5 September 2019 06: 25
            -4
            Lies, from the first to the last word. Try to save on vodka, go to Germany yourself and see for yourself.
          3. SARANCHA1976
            SARANCHA1976 5 September 2019 22: 08
            0
            Everything is very simple . In Germany, a policeman supporting the law himself abides by it. In Russia this is not.
        7. Catfish
          Catfish 4 September 2019 14: 43
          +5
          Impunity, and even encouraged by the authorities. What to expect from them. You can be a club, but you can’t. Not only will the policemen smother them, but the judges will solder you for the beaten face.
          1. Mestny
            Mestny 4 September 2019 15: 02
            +1
            You can - if you broke the law. And you are not - because you also break the law.
            Freedom is not the ability to do what you want.
            Surprisingly for young revolutionaries.
            1. Catfish
              Catfish 4 September 2019 15: 12
              +12
              "Freedom is a conscious need" (C) Do not remember who said?
              That way in the years 1918 - 1920, all violators of the law suddenly became the heroes of the nation, and those who tamed and imprisoned them were put to the wall themselves.
              Everything in life is relative, and power is ephemeral: Today you are a king, and tomorrow a corpse is in the basement of the Ipatiev House.
              And the law, it’s drawbar ... I’ll continue on, perhaps you yourself know.
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 4 September 2019 20: 02
                0
                Quote: Sea Cat
                That way in the years 1918 - 1920, all violators of the law suddenly became the heroes of the nation, and those who tamed and imprisoned them were put to the wall themselves.

                And how did it end?
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish 4 September 2019 20: 57
                  +3
                  And it hasn’t finished yet, haven’t you noticed?
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 4 September 2019 21: 08
                    -4
                    Quote: Sea Cat
                    And it ain't over yet

                    Over. 3,5 years in total.
                    1. Catfish
                      Catfish 4 September 2019 21: 10
                      +2
                      Forgive me? I did not catch the subtleties of your passage.
                      1. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 4 September 2019 21: 13
                        -1
                        Quote: Sea Cat
                        Forgive me?

                        To the landlord, in this case.
                      2. Catfish
                        Catfish 4 September 2019 21: 17
                        0
                        Vladimir, that’s why it wasn’t about him. And he was given a term only because he missed. And rightly so: if you do not know how - do not handle. laughing
                      3. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 4 September 2019 21: 21
                        -1
                        Quote: Sea Cat
                        Vladimir, that’s why it wasn’t about him.

                        In general, no, and in particular, yes. sad
                  2. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 4 September 2019 21: 08
                    +1
                    Quote: Sea Cat
                    And it's not over yet

                    And who of those who "suddenly became heroes of the nation" have survived to this day?
                    1. Catfish
                      Catfish 4 September 2019 21: 15
                      +1
                      Colleague, you would have asked a similar question about the Decembrists. good
                      1. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 4 September 2019 21: 19
                        +2
                        Quote: Sea Cat
                        Would you still have a similar question

                        Well, you yourself say that it did not end or not?
                        But as I read it ended in the fact that the vast majority of these heroes went to the other world by force.
                    2. fraders
                      fraders 5 September 2019 08: 28
                      +2
                      for the most part, in 38 ended
                      1. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 5 September 2019 19: 46
                        +1
                        Quote: fraders
                        in 38 ended

                        Here I am about that.
                2. lelik613
                  lelik613 5 September 2019 07: 26
                  0
                  The police and gendarmes ran out, all ... Annulled them.
          2. Campanella
            Campanella 4 September 2019 20: 26
            +1
            Mustache for people! The authorities take care of us, God forbid, we will stand on a crooked path ...
        8. Mestny
          Mestny 4 September 2019 15: 00
          +1
          A distinctive feature of juvenile fighters with the regime is that they evilly distort names and throw mud at everything that hands reach out to in the country.
          But for themselves beloved from those who are doused with slops, they require law and justice. They are for all good and justice.
          Well, here you are and get law and justice. This is it.
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 4 September 2019 21: 51
            +3
            Started to play adult games - get an adult.
        9. Kazbek
          Kazbek 4 September 2019 19: 10
          +7
          With golunovy mudnyak. Anapa is under investigation; according to eyewitnesses, the 17-year-old "schoolgirl" committed a slander. The rally is generally a circus! I will not even comment! And in order not to feel too sorry for the reptile-tit, look at these screenshots.


        10. tomket
          tomket 5 September 2019 00: 49
          -1
          Quote: evgenii67
          Well, as it were

          I am sincerely amused by the attempts to present a poke in the stomach of the opposition Madame, for the crime of the century against humanity)))))
        11. evgenii67
          evgenii67 5 September 2019 16: 12
          0
          Lech astronaut
      4. The comment was deleted.
      5. German Titov
        German Titov 4 September 2019 20: 40
        -1
        Thanks for the "activists" have seen enough. Now we suffer because of "passivists". With these "torn activists" - "the maydown began." All blood on "fish soup" were. I propose an alternative. The riot policeman will put on the "activist" an abandoned ballot box on the "makiwara", and then RP-73 will play the "march of the puppies" on it. All 15 days.
    2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 4 September 2019 11: 42
      +10
      It’s more effective to punish approximately. Landing is a very good example for a good deal.
      1. Siberia 75
        Siberia 75 4 September 2019 11: 51
        +20
        Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Landing is a very good example for a good deal.

        There is no such term "disagreement" in jurisprudence. In principle, you cannot throw ballot boxes or anything at a law enforcement officer. Not at the rally or anywhere. There is an article of the Criminal Code, there are mitigating or aggravating factors, there is a judge. There must be an objective, not biased judgment.
        1. Vladimir16
          Vladimir16 4 September 2019 11: 56
          +24
          Interestingly, the "activist" knew that
          Quote: Siberia 75
          As a law enforcement official, in principle, you cannot throw ballot boxes or anything else.
          laughing
          Perhaps he is a victim of EG? wassat

          They explained to the players that one should not throw chairs at people.
          Now it's the turn of the "activists".
          "Activists", you cannot throw uraniums at people !!!
          1. Vladimir16
            Vladimir16 4 September 2019 12: 14
            +11
            Quote: Siberia 75
            There is no such term "disagreement" in jurisprudence.

            You've played a little "jurisprudence".
            Can you answer what is the purpose of the punishment?
            Is the purpose of the punishment correcting the convict or preventing repeated lawlessness?
            If the convict was "corrected", then who determined the time frame for the correction?
            For a sack of a stolen potato, a convict is corrected in two years, and for a murder, a convict can be corrected in 15 years?
            I think "fixing" is bullshit.
            It is the threat of imprisonment that warns crimes.
          2. ltc35
            ltc35 4 September 2019 16: 05
            +8
            The players sat down for throwing a chair at the wrong one. If they had thrown at me, they wouldn't have put anyone. At my work, one person insolently stole money in front of witnesses. The investigation has been going on for a year, and she can get away with it. And this is one example of many when the police work only for those "who need it."
          3. SASHA OLD
            SASHA OLD 5 September 2019 15: 36
            0
            Well, he is like 45 or 48 years old (everywhere they write differently), a guard in Russian Railways, lives with his mother ...
            The character is Nordic, he was not seen in the connections defaming him .. laughing
        2. freddyk
          freddyk 4 September 2019 13: 23
          0
          Quote: Siberia 75
          There must be an objective, not biased sentence.

          Who would argue. But this is ideal, and not in our biased court.
          1. sir.jonn
            sir.jonn 4 September 2019 14: 36
            +5
            Quote: freddyk
            Who would argue. But this is ideal, and not in our biased court.

            Are there unbiased courts? I have not heard of such.
            1. freddyk
              freddyk 4 September 2019 16: 25
              +3
              Quote: sir.jonn

              Are there unbiased courts? I have not heard of such.

              Then what kind of objective and impartial court can there be?
      2. Snarkxnumx
        Snarkxnumx 4 September 2019 12: 08
        -11
        You are completely crazy, citizens are illegally beaten with batons, indiscriminately for gender and age. The guy, apparently in the hearts, threw an urn towards the riot police who didn’t reach, without hitting. and here is a 5 year old colony. Obscurantism ... Maybe for a look to kill like the Nazis in concentration camps. For the call to conscience, the colonel (head of the dispersal in St. Petersburg) wrote a statement to the rally. Obscurantism...
        1. Dym71
          Dym71 4 September 2019 12: 37
          +11
          Quote: Snark1876
          You are completely crazy, citizens are illegally beaten with batons, indiscriminately for gender and age.

          And who prevents the inspirers and organizers of the rallies from contacting prosecutors, courts, even European ones? Abundance of mind and cunning?
          Quote: Snark1876
          The guy apparently threw an urn in the hearts of the riot police that didn’t reach

          Gorgeous offer issued! It reads as if the guy SMOKED quit, and he spotted a nickel.
          Quote: Snark1876
          and here is a 5 year old colony.

          Do not start "Lament of Yaroslavna", this is not "and so", the prosecutor is asking for 5 years in prison, although it’s cool. recourse
          1. Reklastik
            Reklastik 4 September 2019 18: 56
            +3
            And who prevents the inspirers and organizers of the rallies from contacting prosecutors, courts, even European ones?
            - or even American! You can also in the intergalactic justice league. laughing
        2. Vladimir16
          Vladimir16 4 September 2019 12: 37
          +3
          Quote: Snark1876
          You are completely insane

          ABOUT! And you are certainly smart to call all those who disagree with you crazy. laughing
          Here is a flower for you. love
          Quote: Vladimir16
          Maybe for the look to kill like the Nazis in concentration camps.

          This is what you have just proposed. And your suggestion is vile. Are you a Nazi? The Nazis need to be imprisoned.

          How old are you?

          Quote: Snark1876
          The guy apparently threw an urn in the direction of the riot police

          laughing Heart laughing
          And he also throws urns into his young ladies "in the hearts"? wassat
          Have you tried the benches? Or is there not enough strength?
          There are hammers, bricks. laughing

          It is from such "in hearts" that people need to be protected. Let the heartfelt sit, and the other "in the middle" before the throw thinks what it threatens HIM.

        3. Ka-52
          Ka-52 4 September 2019 12: 38
          +17
          You are completely insane, citizens are illegally beaten with batons, indiscriminately for gender and age

          before starting to arrange here and waving a flag, answer the question:
          1. Do law enforcement officers have or do not have to use special equipment in the performance of their duties?
          2. From the point of view of the protesters were they violating the law or not? Without any "they were not allowed", "but where else can they express their will."
          The guy apparently threw an urn in the hearts of the riot police that didn’t reach

          what does "in hearts" mean ??? And if he throws an ax in his hearts? Or a grenade? We have too many crimes committed in a state of emotional passion. But from this they don't stop to be crimes
          1. Mestny
            Mestny 4 September 2019 15: 04
            +3
            These are children.
            Our domestic version with the filing of famous authors.
            One has only to show the fluctuations - and that’s it, the end of the country. This technology has already worked in some countries (now former).
          2. ltc35
            ltc35 4 September 2019 16: 17
            +2
            The punishment must be commensurate with the danger of denial. Agree that throwing a plastic ballot box or an ax is two big differences. Although, you can not rush to a representative of the authorities, it is fraught. Where do youngsters go? The authorities do not hear them on the Internet. So they go to rallies. Studying at a university costs a lot of money, and after no prospects (good places are distributed). And at the lower links they plow like planters on blacks. The authorities need to give young people a platform for expressions and listen to, plant not young, but real provocateurs and at the same time corrupt officials from their ranks.
            1. fraders
              fraders 5 September 2019 08: 36
              +3
              and did not try to study young growth? Are there budget places in universities, in practice, to show yourself? better jaguar to whip and scold power
          3. Snarkxnumx
            Snarkxnumx 4 September 2019 18: 44
            +1
            you can throw an ax, you can have a paper cup ... And on your scales (fair) it is one and the same. What is the crime?
            1. The urn didn’t even reach
            2. Violation of Article 31 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation - enshrines the right of citizens of the Russian Federation to conduct public events
            - violation of the rights and freedoms of a citizen;
            - creating obstacles to the exercise by a citizen of his rights and freedoms
            1. Ka-52
              Ka-52 4 September 2019 19: 31
              0
              stop picking arguments out of your nose. There is a concept of attempted crime. For example, you intended to shoot a neighbor, but missed or the gun misfired. In fact, the crime did not take place. But the attempt was and it is already under the jurisdiction

              - violation of the rights and freedoms of a citizen;
              - creating obstacles to the exercise by a citizen of his rights and freedoms

              no one took away the right, but regulates their implementation in a certain order. Stop making up
              1. fraders
                fraders 5 September 2019 08: 37
                +2
                it’s enough to even buy a gun for the purpose of murder, an attempt to kill
          4. Reklastik
            Reklastik 4 September 2019 19: 01
            +4
            And if he throws an ax in his hearts? Or a grenade?
            - what if your neighbor is planning to kill you (though no one has heard about it)? What if the computer predicted it with a probability of 0,9? What if the majority of us are criminals at heart, but behave like normal citizens? And if ... yes dofig any "if". Any "would". Punish everyone in advance - anyway, someone will be fined. Right from birth everyone is banned, fined and imprisoned, while he is small and does not understand.
            1. Ka-52
              Ka-52 4 September 2019 19: 35
              +1
              - what if your neighbor is planning to kill you (though no one has heard about it)? What if the computer predicted it with a probability of 0,9? What if the majority of us are criminals at heart, but behave like normal citizens? And if ... yes dofig any "if". Any "would". Punish everyone in advance - anyway, someone will be fined. Right from birth everyone is banned, fined and imprisoned, while he is small and does not understand.

              that you are carrying some kind of naivety. And if, and if ... if a person has intent, but did not realize it, then no one will show him anything since there is no corpus delicti. And if he takes deliberate actions to cause harm (for example, to health) or makes an attempt or takes preparatory actions - this is already a crime. Your baby talk about a fine from birth about nothing
              1. Reklastik
                Reklastik 4 September 2019 19: 44
                0
                You are not talking about an accomplished fact, but about the possibility of the fact. "And if ..." is yours. You do not distinguish between the possibility of doing something and what has already been done, and immediately judge for something that has not yet even been done, and, perhaps, not even conceived. Do not throw labels lightly, as well as words.
                1. Ka-52
                  Ka-52 5 September 2019 07: 59
                  +1
                  You do not distinguish between the possibility of committing something and what has already been done, and immediately judge for what has not even been done, and maybe not even conceived. Do not throw labels rashly, like words.

                  not me, but the law. Stop fantasizing and hovering in the clouds of your speculation. There are articles in the Criminal Code:
                  1. Criminal Code of the Russian Federation Article 30. Part 1 - Preparing for a crime and Criminal Code of the Russian Federation Article 30, part 3 - Attempted crime
                  2. Criminal Code of the Russian Federation Article 318, part 1 - The use of violence that is not dangerous to life or health, or the threat of violence against a representative of the government or his relatives in connection with the performance of his duties
                  3. Criminal Code of the Russian Federation Article 25, part 2 - the concept of intent is developed
                  Study and do not eat the brain with stupid things to yourself, let alone me. The law interprets quite clearly. No one cares that the ballot box has not reached or flew past.
                  1. SASHA OLD
                    SASHA OLD 5 September 2019 15: 41
                    0
                    In certain circles they say: "Article so and so in thirty".
            2. SARANCHA1976
              SARANCHA1976 5 September 2019 22: 17
              0
              One military blogger said When "Asli" appears, it’s already n ... ets :)
          5. Deck
            Deck 5 September 2019 06: 32
            +1
            what does "in hearts" mean ??? And if he throws an ax in his hearts? Or a grenade?


            They can also reward. And put a monument. This has already happened in our history. Forgot?
        4. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 4 September 2019 12: 43
          +5
          in hearts? in principle, you cannot touch the representative of the law. Otherwise, you get anarchy as a result. and anyone who commits such a thing must be punished in all severity so that it would be discouraging for others. everything is correct and logical. you throw it at the policeman on the street; he may even in general fear for his life to open fire to defeat.
        5. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 4 September 2019 12: 45
          +6
          The guy apparently threw an urn in the hearts of the riot police that didn’t reach

          And if it flew and the guy remained disabled? Would you specifically pay for the boy’s treatment, maintenance of his family from your earnings? This is the representative of the LAW !!! They threw the ballot box not at the guy, but at the Law, at the State, in his function of Public Order Protection! This is clear! Or do you want, as in France, with casualties? Is it boring to eat popcorn?
          Imagine that the OMON officer is your relative. Then what is your reaction? Better not write go from .... their comments.
        6. Beringovsky
          Beringovsky 4 September 2019 13: 19
          -14
          You are completely crazy, citizens are illegally beaten with batons, indiscriminately for gender and age. The guy, apparently in the hearts, threw an urn towards the riot police who didn’t reach, without hitting. and here is a 5 year old colony. Obscurantism ... For a call to conscience, the colonel (head of dispersal in St. Petersburg) wrote a statement to the rally. Obscurantism...

          You are absolutely right, that is exactly what absolutely everyone thinks around - this is obscurantism, into which our country is plunging ever farther.
          But VO was lousy with paid kremlebots, like my cat, after a two-week spree. Spit on them, justify any game of the authorities - their work, they are paid for it. You will not present to simple .... ke the same standards of morality as to the rest? So there is no point in arguing a lot with these "guardians". It is better to look for another resource, and appear here less often. And let them communicate with each other here.
          I did just that.
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 4 September 2019 13: 49
            +2
            Quote: Beringovsky
            You are absolutely right, that’s exactly how consider absolutely everything around is obscurantism

            "ALL" is who?
            WHO gave you the authority to represent ... "ALL"?

            To speak only for YOURSELF-mom did not teach?
            Quote: Beringovsky
            But VO fattened paid Kremlin bots, like my cat, after a two-week spree. Spit on them,

            only yourself, don’t bother. lol
            VO citizens should not be insulted - this is a sign of hysteria and weakness
            Quote: Beringovsky
            You are you will not present to simple .... ke the same moral standards as the rest?

            Certainly: to you, no show: strictly according to your adviceyes
            1. Beringovsky
              Beringovsky 4 September 2019 15: 03
              -4
              ALL "is who?
              WHO gave you the authority to represent ... "ALL"?
              Speak only for YOURSELF

              Olgovich, least of all I need your teachings. And even in the fact that to ask you for authority before something "represent" and even more so.
              VO citizens should not be insulted - this is a sign of hysteria and weakness

              Aha laughing
              The fleas that bred on my cat, too, probably considered themselves Citizens, the cat as their property, and the anti-flea shampoo was "a sign of hysteria and weakness." They were wrong.
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich 4 September 2019 15: 11
                +3
                Quote: Beringovsky
                Olgovich, least of all I need your teachings. And even in the fact that to ask you for authority before something "represent" and even more so.

                1. Talk ONLY FOR YOURSELF-taught from childhood, I have nothing to do with it.
                2. NOBODY authorized you to speak on behalf of others. What's not clear? request
                Quote: Beringovsky
                Fleasbred on my cat, too, probably considered themselves Citizens, cats are their own property and anti-flea shampoo is "a sign of hysteria and weakness." They were wrong.

                Yes, you understand your fleas thoroughly, and talk about them. lol
                About people, it’s clearly too early ...
                1. Beringovsky
                  Beringovsky 4 September 2019 16: 52
                  -4
                  Alas, Olgovich, sometimes fleas are easier to understand than some people. In any case, they are not lying. And I won't argue with you, it's boring. I'd better make a screen and every time you talk about the "scoop", show it to you. So that it would be clear to everyone that what you are telling is not an objective reality, but only your particular case. Hey.
                  1. Olgovich
                    Olgovich 5 September 2019 07: 03
                    +1
                    Quote: Beringovsky
                    In any case, they do not lie.

                    So the donkey doesn’t lie. And a brick. AND? lol
                    Quote: Beringovsky
                    I'd better make a screen and every time you talk about the "scoop", show it to you. So that it would be clear to everyone that what you are telling is not an objective reality, but only your particular case.

                    Those. I'm here for ... "scoop"? belay lol
                    I'm for ORDER. Not for Putin, not for Navalny and others.

                    Russia has long exceeded all conceivable and inconceivable limits on any shocks. Therefore, everything should be within the framework of the LAW. Let it be imperfect.
                    So go to the courts, the ECHR, and not to yell at the streets.
          2. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 4 September 2019 14: 22
            +1
            I see - you have two opinions: your own and wrong. Those who disagree with you, of course, are paid for, other versions do not enter your head. Well then I will answer you the same. How, have you already received the money from those $ 6,5 billion sent from overseas to "develop democracy" in Russia?
            1. Mestny
              Mestny 4 September 2019 15: 05
              +5
              They are minors. Parents give them money.
              1. polar fox
                polar fox 4 September 2019 17: 32
                0
                Quote: Mestny
                They are minors. Parents give them money.

                jammed the poor fellow?
            2. Beringovsky
              Beringovsky 4 September 2019 15: 17
              0
              I look - you have two opinions: own and wrong.

              Yeah, exactly. And I have to consider my opinion wrong, right?
              other versions do not pass into your head.

              And why should I puzzle over why the position of some website visitors always, without exception, in the most surprising way coincides with the position of the authorities? And come up with a decent explanation.
              You need, you explain.
              1. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. 4 September 2019 15: 38
                0
                For example, power does not bother me. I suspect that some other visitors too. And bad dancers always interfere with something.
                1. Beringovsky
                  Beringovsky 4 September 2019 15: 44
                  +1
                  Mr. Comrade Ivanov, it’s kind of violet to me, what is stopping you and what is not.
                  I do not personally invite you to the barricades; you are not needed there.
                  1. AU Ivanov.
                    AU Ivanov. 4 September 2019 15: 48
                    +4
                    And I do not need barricades. Nothing good, as history has proven, they will not lead. Especially if they are sponsored from across the ocean.
                    1. Beringovsky
                      Beringovsky 4 September 2019 16: 21
                      -2
                      Who cares what you need and what not? Putin and his comrades built an absolutely unviable and uncompetitive state. You can’t rule the country in the 21st century by the methods of King Peas from the 19th, it’s obvious. It won’t last long, don’t even doubt it. You just have to come to terms with the inevitable course of history.
                      1. AU Ivanov.
                        AU Ivanov. 4 September 2019 16: 33
                        +3
                        Are you sure that those who take people to the streets are interested in building, not in destruction? Those who pull their strings do not need Russia. If it were the Communists, it would be possible to somehow understand, although I am not really with the Communists.
                      2. Beringovsky
                        Beringovsky 4 September 2019 17: 13
                        +1
                        In bulk and no sables, not sure. Even sure of the opposite. But most people are precisely in this and interested - in creation.
                        Other people are interested in destruction - those in power. Isn't that obvious? Or is the country's degradation from education and healthcare to science not convincing of this? A progressive lag behind the leaders in technological development too? Reluctance to invest in science and industry, and the desire to pump even more resources over the hill also does not convince? Well, who is the destroyer here?
                      3. AU Ivanov.
                        AU Ivanov. 4 September 2019 17: 29
                        +1
                        People are nothing more than extras, with the help of which individuals want to break through to power. About the same as Yeltsin did in 1991. But I do not see degradation. Even in my small Motherland, the village was used, for the first time in hundreds of years, sidewalks appeared and roads to asphalt were rolled up a couple of years ago. I’m silent about Peter.
                      4. Beringovsky
                        Beringovsky 4 September 2019 21: 42
                        +1
                        People are extras? Why is the government so afraid of these extras?
                        Do not you see degradation? And I see, and then what?
                        Reducing hospitals, for example, is degradation, or not? Is a clear deterioration in the level of education a degradation or not?
                        The fact that we have lost leadership in space launches and in commercial launches is generally a complete failure - degradation or not?
                        Yes, at least here, an example with cars, which all bots like to cite as evidence of how good everything is. So, in the year 12, almost 3 million cars were bought in Russia, and in the past, 2 times less. Where are you going to take this to development?
                        I can go on for a long time. And all your evidence is subjective - they made marble sidewalks nearby, a familiar locksmith bought a penthouse, an acquaintance plumber a Gelendvagen, an acquaintance carpenter earns thousands of dollars a month ... etc. - that's all your "arguments" .... blah blah blah
                      5. AU Ivanov.
                        AU Ivanov. 4 September 2019 22: 08
                        0
                        And where did you get the idea that the level of education has dropped? And, by the way, in comparison with what period it "fell" And now we look at the statistics on our pupils and students at international Olympiads. And how far has this level dropped? And the fact that graduates of our universities are snapped up abroad is degradation, apparently? The authorities are not afraid - the authorities, however, like me, do not want all these, such as protests, to turn into pogroms, it is better to use a club in the kidneys than to extinguish the crowd with more serious forces and means. You can't indulge here.
                  2. brat07
                    brat07 6 September 2019 17: 53
                    0
                    Quote: Beringovsky
                    Mr. Comrade Ivanov, it’s kind of violet to me, what is stopping you and what is not.
                    I do not personally invite you to the barricades; you are not needed there.

                    It’s better to look for another resource, but here it’s less frequent. And let them communicate with each other here.
                    I did just that.

                    Your word is at odds with the deed. Do not find?
          3. Saul_Rhen
            Saul_Rhen 4 September 2019 20: 27
            +4
            Minus. "All around" who is this?
          4. evgic
            evgic 4 September 2019 20: 45
            0
            Why didn’t you dump it and are you sitting online? You are the bot, since you write here through power.
        7. Olgovich
          Olgovich 4 September 2019 13: 34
          +11
          Quote: Snark1876
          You are completely insane, citizens are beating unlawfully with batons, indiscriminately gender and age.

          Is it legal to block the streets, throw, yell, etc. These so-called. "citizens" - WHOSE age and gender were respected, eh?
          After all, there are a lot of people who these hari and their cries are deeply disgusting. WHO respected them?

          Therefore, let it be LAW!
          Quote: Snark1876
          The guy, apparently in the hearts, threw an urn towards the riot police who didn’t reach, without hitting. and here is a 5 year old colony. ..

          Here in 5 years and learn not to dissolve.
          Quote: Snark1876
          The Nazis in the concentration camps.

          What are you carrying? Do not confuse tragedy with FARS
        8. 72jora72
          72jora72 4 September 2019 13: 36
          -5
          Obscurantism...
          It's only the beginning......
          1. Mestny
            Mestny 4 September 2019 15: 06
            +2
            It will be.
            That's when normal people get bored with these little skakuas, then it will be. No police can save.
            1. Beringovsky
              Beringovsky 4 September 2019 15: 57
              -3
              You are not Local, for sure laughing
              People are insanely tired of the "art" of our government, and only the central TV channels and the Lakhta kremlebots on the Internet talk about the horses in vain.
              Your Ukraine and "hotitekakuhokhlov" are already in everyone's liver
        9. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 4 September 2019 15: 53
          +2
          Quote: Snark1876
          You are completely insane

          Oh, another highlight of the mind. laughing
          Quote: Snark1876
          The guy apparently threw an urn in the direction of the riot police

          Great, the day is done. good And yet, it’s a little pity that the school holidays have ended, and there will be less such exercises in VO. Sometimes it’s very funny.
          Quote: Snark1876
          Obscurantism...

          Good advice: before pushing any word from right to left, first you need to find out the meaning of this word, so that the "impetuous jack" does not come out. Well, along the way, find out the meaning of the word "reaction". yes I say: it is very funny.
        10. Dart2027
          Dart2027 4 September 2019 20: 07
          0
          Quote: Snark1876
          You are completely insane, citizens are illegally beaten with batons, indiscriminately for gender and age

          Where?
        11. tomket
          tomket 5 September 2019 00: 54
          0
          Quote: Snark1876
          You are completely crazy, citizens are illegally beaten with batons, indiscriminately for gender and age.

          You forgot to write "LOWERED !!!!"
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      1. svp67
        svp67 4 September 2019 11: 56
        +23
        Quote: Olya Tsako
        The peripheral Khanty-Mansiysk mafia-degradation-building chaos !!!

        Are you a Muscovite yourself? I was in Moscow one summer, I liked the result of this "lawlessness". The city is changing very quickly, and the way it changes, I, not a Muscovite, but a traveler LIKE it. I would very much like to see similar work carried out in all cities of Russia.
        1. Vladimir16
          Vladimir16 4 September 2019 12: 00
          +5
          Quote: Olya Tsako
          Large, stupid, SUSTAINABLE DRILL village. A parody of the Babylonian pandemonium.

          Young lady, are you going to create a pillar in Moscow? Why a parody? request laughing
          What size will your pillar be?
          Discover the secret.
          It was this law enforcement official who trampled your dream? laughing


          Aren't you ashamed to call the capital of our Motherland "Big, stupid, SUCKY-DRUG Kishlak."
          Or a shame feeling for suckers?
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            1. Vladimir16
              Vladimir16 4 September 2019 13: 00
              +1
              Quote: Olya Tsako
              You do not understand. Your children and grandchildren will understand. Thirty years later, on reservations.

              ABOUT! Moved to insults and threats laughing

              She understands, understands, but of course I do not understand.

              Did your children understand the beauty of the collapse of the USSR? Do you have any children? Or not up to them now? laughing

              Neither my parents, who were 45 at the time of the collapse of the Union, nor I, at the age of 20 at that time, understood and now I do not see any charm in this.

              Why are you threatening me and my children? Why are you calling me and my children a target?

              Do you see yourself as a shooter at these targets? Then you are a threat to fight against.

              That's why you need to at least control, and when you move from threats to actions, you probably have to isolate.
          2. LON
            LON 4 September 2019 13: 10
            +3
            Quote: Vladimir16
            You are not ashamed to call the capital of our country

            I’m not ashamed to call Moscow a leech on the body of Russia.
            1. Mountain shooter
              Mountain shooter 4 September 2019 15: 14
              -1
              Quote: LON
              I’m not ashamed to call Moscow a leech on the body of Russia

              Whose will you be?
              1. LON
                LON 10 September 2019 12: 11
                -1
                Quote: Mountain Shooter
                Whose will you be?

                Saratov we are.
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          1. Vladimir16
            Vladimir16 4 September 2019 12: 04
            +12
            Quote: Olya Tsako
            my peripheral friend.

            wassat
            Here you are not here! The young lady was born in Moscow! Everyone is quiet !!! laughing
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                    1. 210ox
                      210ox 4 September 2019 13: 25
                      +11
                      No. "An officer's daughter" .. Also ambiguous Muscovite ...
                  2. Mountain shooter
                    Mountain shooter 4 September 2019 15: 20
                    +2
                    Quote: Olya Tsako
                    Wash the dirt of your mouth

                    Russian is not native? : laughin Moscow and I are obviously different. But I don’t see you as constructive. Generally. Hungry bulkers are eager for power. Substituting a little understanding of what is happening, practically not involved ...
              2. Piramidon
                Piramidon 4 September 2019 12: 25
                +3
                Quote: Olya Tsako
                Since 1917, the head of Moscow has never been a ROOM Moskvich.

                Choose yourself.
          2. Mountain shooter
            Mountain shooter 4 September 2019 12: 13
            +7
            Quote: Olya Tsako
            "The city is becoming different" - he, already from Luzhkov's times, with the letter - "X." Do not think good.

            I am a Muscovite. More than half a century. Moscow was not so wonderful, developing and turned towards a person, as under Sobyanin ... Therefore, it is not necessary ... If you were not lucky to be born in Moscow, the country is big. You can find a place for every taste.
            1. LON
              LON 4 September 2019 13: 29
              -5
              Quote: Mountain Shooter
              Moscow was not so wonderful, developing and turned towards a person, as under Sobyanin, and ...

              Yeah. The level of corruption goes off scale. And everyone and everyone is grabbing and grabbing. You need to steal from your profits, and not from what you have gathered from all over Russia, and in your pockets. And this is under the nose of your idol Sobyanin. One word gang:
              1. Mountain shooter
                Mountain shooter 4 September 2019 15: 07
                +4
                I saw a stream of lies. Everything that comes from Navalny smells appropriately.
                1. LON
                  LON 10 September 2019 12: 10
                  -1
                  Quote: Mountain Shooter
                  I saw a stream of lies.

                  Something there is no attempt to attract him for lodges. Just wiped it off.
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        3. 210ox
          210ox 4 September 2019 12: 05
          +15
          For those who don't like Moscow .. "You will be with us in Kolyma .." © He is not a Muscovite himself, but the city has definitely changed.
          1. 72jora72
            72jora72 4 September 2019 13: 41
            +4
            For those who don't like Moscow .. "You will be with us in Kolyma ..
            Come and see how "Severa" gradually die, including Magadan ...........
            1. 210ox
              210ox 4 September 2019 14: 07
              -1
              I saw ... Alas .. But what does the capital have to do with it ...
              1. 72jora72
                72jora72 4 September 2019 14: 32
                +5
                I saw ... Alas .. But what does the capital have to do with it ...
                And besides, all the money, resources, all the best personnel are "sucked" from the regions
                1. 210ox
                  210ox 4 September 2019 17: 51
                  +2
                  So what? Is the city to blame? Or is it still the authorities in our state?
              2. Beringovsky
                Beringovsky 4 September 2019 15: 31
                0
                Given that the "renovation" must start from there.
            2. fraders
              fraders 5 September 2019 08: 48
              0
              even in my governorate Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug-Ugra, significant changes in the improvement of the city, and somehow we are not going to die
        4. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 4 September 2019 12: 50
          +7
          Quote: svp67
          . The city becomes different and very fast, and how it changes is not for me, a Muscovite, but for the traveler LIKE.

          And I have ceased to like Moscow since the end of the 80's, and still do not like it. There are a flea market in the metro, prices at train stations are exorbitant, taxi drivers call such prices that they should be given an urn in the head. By the way, all three, the defendant, and two victims, are not from non-rubber, and the court resembles a comedy.
          The lawyer again asks to stop the video at the moment before the ballot box is thrown.

          “Why did you drag the person who is on the steps by the hair?” - the lawyer addresses the police Tereshchenko.

          - The question is removed, it is not relevant.

          - Near you Rosguard employees wave clubs and beat people, for what purpose?

          - The question is removed, it is not relevant.

          - How did it happen that the rubber baton broke due to a blow to a person?

          - The question is removed, it is not relevant.

          https://zona.media/online/2019/09/03/kovalenko
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 4 September 2019 13: 59
            0
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            dvokat again asks to stop the video at the moment until throwing an urn.

            “Why did you drag the person who is on the steps by the hair?” - the lawyer addresses the police Tereshchenko.

            - The question is removed, it is not relevant.

            - Near you Rosguard employees wave clubs and beat people, for what purpose?

            - The question is removed, it is not relevant.

            - How did it happen that the rubber baton broke due to a blow to a person?

            - The question is removed, it is not relevant.

            really, to throw a ballot box - does NOT apply. And what is wrong?!! belay
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 4 September 2019 14: 08
              +1
              It's not that one of the victims is Tereshchenko, whom Kovalenko allegedly pushed before throwing the ballot box.
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich 4 September 2019 14: 40
                0
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                It's not that one of the victims is Tereshchenko, whom Kovalenko allegedly pushed before throwing the ballot box.

                I didn’t understand: WHAT does this have to do with THROWING? Is he an authorized avenger? Who is interested in his motives?
                Go to the side and do not jerk towards the police. Jerked, get it!
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 4 September 2019 19: 23
                  -1
                  Quote: Olgovich
                  I do not understand: WHAT does this have to do with THROWING

                  Yes, it’s such that in court it turns out that this type for no reason attacked two officers of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
                  Quote: Olgovich
                  Go to the side and do not jerk towards the police. Jerked, get it!

                  Tell this to the relatives of those whom Yevsyuk failed.
                  1. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 4 September 2019 20: 10
                    +3
                    Quote: Mordvin 3
                    Tell this to the relatives of those whom Yevsyukov

                    Yes, yes, yes ... And now let's remember how many people were "flunked" by those who have nothing to do with the police. "
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 4 September 2019 20: 29
                      -1
                      Quote: Dart2027
                      Yes, yes, yes ... And now let's remember how many people were "flunked" by those who have nothing to do with the police. "

                      That is, for your reason is not related to the investigation? 3,5, a man deserved, for standing up for those who were hollowed with batons?
                      1. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 4 September 2019 20: 34
                        +3
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        That is, for your reason is not related to the investigation?

                        Denis Viktorovich Evsyukov (April 20, 1977, Moscow [1]) - former major of the Russian police [2], in 2008-2009 he was the head of the department of internal affairs in the Tsaritsyno district. He gained scandalous fame when on April 27, 2009, while intoxicated, he killed two and wounded seven more people in the Moscow supermarket Ostrov on Shipilovskaya Street. In 2010, sentenced to life imprisonment. In 2019, transferred from a maximum security colony.

                        Well, what does he have to do with what happened? A primitive attempt to manipulate the interlocutor when an example is given that has nothing to do with what happened.
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        for standing up for those who were bathed there with batons

                        Well, who was they cuddled there for? More details, please.
                      2. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 4 September 2019 20: 44
                        -1
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Well, who was they cuddled there for?

                        As the court said, this is not the case. From this we can conclude that the criminal in uniform cannot be stopped. And I threw off the link above.
                      3. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 4 September 2019 21: 16
                        +1
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        As the court said, this is not the case.

                        That is nobody?
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        And I threw off the link above.

                        Here is this https://zona.media/online/2019/09/03/kovalenko?
                        I followed the link given there in the 3rd paragraph (“Rain” TV channel published (https://tvrain.ru/teleshow/vechernee_shou/avdokat-492012/) operational footage) and I saw how law enforcement officers with HANDS detain two men without using any batons, despite the fact that several more people rush at them, including the arrested, who then throws the ballot box.
                        Not tired of lying?
                      4. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 4 September 2019 21: 42
                        0
                        Indeed, those whom he threw the barrel into without costing batons, my cant. Well, that means they gave me the right three years, let him sit.
                      5. Olgovich
                        Olgovich 5 September 2019 06: 37
                        -1
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        From this we can conclude that the criminal in uniform cannot be stopped.

                        it who defined them as .... "criminals"? belay So he also judge ... had the right to punish? You yourself are not funny?
                      6. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 5 September 2019 13: 29
                        -1
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        who defined them as .... "criminals"?

                        Nobody. And it would be nice to give a legal assessment, like Kovalenko.
                      7. Fan-fan
                        Fan-fan 5 September 2019 17: 01
                        -1
                        Something like Khokhlyat surnames of these Rosgvardeytsev - Tereshchenko, Kovalenko? Maybe these are the ones who moved to Ukraine from us and got a job as police officers? If so, then their anger at our people is understandable, so just give power, they will pound and hammer everyone in a row.
                      8. Okolotochny
                        Okolotochny 4 September 2019 22: 03
                        +1
                        Vova, and to mow in quiet knives - is this by law? Cold steel manufacturing. Since you are such a rightful legalist, why haven’t you come to confess?
                      9. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 4 September 2019 22: 06
                        -1
                        Quote: Okolotochny
                        Vova, and to mow in quiet knives - is this by law? Cold steel manufacturing.

                        What is XO - I know very well, and I do not manufacture them. By.
                      10. Okolotochny
                        Okolotochny 5 September 2019 12: 27
                        +2
                        Come on? Did you write an article for Finnish? By the way, a good article. And you carefully wrote and read comments under it?
                        Yes, to lovers of the past - SHOT WORKERS in Novocherkassk! Not RP along the ridge, not handcuffing, namely, DIRECTED INTELLIGENT SHOT. Waiting for a condemnation!
                      11. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 5 September 2019 13: 27
                        -1
                        Quote: Okolotochny
                        Did you write an article for Finnish?

                        And what from this? According to current legislation, classical Finns without a XO guard are not.
                        Quote: Okolotochny
                        SHOT WORKERS in Novocherkassk!

                        I wrote about this in the comments. The bald corncracker destroyed the artels, collapsed the ruble twice, and they got a curve of socialism with a deficit and bazaar prices.
                  2. Olgovich
                    Olgovich 5 September 2019 06: 32
                    -2
                    Quote: Mordvin 3
                    Yes, such that in court it turns out that this type out of the blue attacked two police officers.

                    ONCE AGAIN: WHO is interested in what he thought and in response to what?
                    He did not have the right to twitch against the police. All!
                    Quote: Mordvin 3
                    Tell this to the relatives of those whom Yevsyuk failed.

                    belay Relatives did not throw ballot boxes at Yevsyukov
          2. Mountain shooter
            Mountain shooter 4 September 2019 15: 09
            +1
            Have you tried to deliver Yandex taxi? If you "miss" bombed at the airport, you can stay without pants ... But who is stopping you? The most expensive is IGNORANCE.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 4 September 2019 19: 52
              -1
              Quote: Mountain Shooter
              Have you tried to deliver Yandex taxis?

              In general, I don’t need this taxi, I’ll get there by metro. All sorts of Kirghiz at the station begin to impose themselves, as soon as you get out of the train.
        5. LON
          LON 4 September 2019 13: 05
          +4
          Quote: svp67
          I was in Moscow one summer, I liked the result of this "lawlessness".

          Some kind of perverse concept you have. You like what happened as a result of how the regions of Russia, including you, were taken away and given to the elect. For normal people, it causes a grudge. You are not a masseur by chance?
        6. Beringovsky
          Beringovsky 4 September 2019 13: 23
          0
          And I, as a Muscovite, do not like the outcome. So what? Calculate who more?
          Just to begin with, let's replace those who "correctly" think.
        7. Mestny
          Mestny 4 September 2019 15: 08
          -4
          No, she’s the daughter of a Muscovite. PERIPHERAL.
          Or in extreme cases, a Muscovite in the 3rd generation.
        8. evgic
          evgic 4 September 2019 20: 49
          0
          She is "the daughter of an officer from the Crimea." Now in Moscow)))
      2. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 4 September 2019 12: 07
        +8
        And their freedom ends where my freedom of movement begins. I’m not going to stand in traffic jams and listen to the crap because of these groomsmen.
        1. Beringovsky
          Beringovsky 4 September 2019 13: 36
          -5
          And your freedom to rummage around (move around tongue ) anywhere, violates my freedom to stand and walk where I want and say what I want.
          And you are in traffic jams for a completely different reason - the area of ​​the road network is too small. And the area of ​​the network is small, because every "free" piece of land was built up with high-rise buildings in order to sell expensive Moscow real estate and weld. Even schools with hospitals were not built, where there is already an increase in the area of ​​roads.
          Wait, after the renovation, when 20 floors are stuck instead of 5 floors, on the same square, you will even get stuck in traffic jams on foot. On the other hand, the construction mafia will slaughter mad grandmothers, thanks to the "diligence" of the authorities to "ennoble" the capital.
          Rejoice.
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 4 September 2019 13: 44
            +2
            Frankly speaking, it’s violet to me who and what makes money, I am deprived of a feeling of envy. And yes, of course, the Khrushchevs, designed for 30 years of operation, do not need to be demolished - let them stand still until they fall apart. And the area of ​​the transport network is small, no doubt, just remember when this network was designed. Where are these protesters galdel? No way in the center? Was there no other place to choose? We would go to Khimki, Lobnya - there will be more free space there - no rods to the center.
            1. Beringovsky
              Beringovsky 4 September 2019 14: 51
              -1
              Honestly, it’s violet to me who and what makes money

              But I don’t, if scammers climb into my pocket.
              Or when the authorities, through their actions, make my life harder and harder. I don’t need such power - let them go
              Khrushchevs, designed for 30 years of operation, do not need to be demolished - let them stand still until they fall apart

              Hypocrisy and lies. The authorities do not give a damn about problems with the Khrushchevs, in other places things are much worse - everything will fall apart there. Can start from there? Although of course there is housing at a frantic price not to sell, right? laughing , here it is, the true goal of renovation, to set up meters, sell at a good price and weld. And those in the province who were unlucky to live in the prestigious metropolitan areas, albeit further huddled in ruins
              1. Mestny
                Mestny 4 September 2019 15: 11
                -2
                Go to the province. They will meet you there, so active.
                You don't need "that kind of power" - back off. Most are fine.
                Nowhere to park? And why? Are there fewer roads? No, there are more cars.
                Probably changing food and ruins for new cars.
                Fire yourself with your stupid screams.
                1. Beringovsky
                  Beringovsky 4 September 2019 17: 53
                  -1
                  Wise guy, if I answer in essence, how will you get out? Actually, I spend six months in the outback in my small homeland. So I don’t know what people live here and what they say about what is happening in the country and about the authorities through forums on the Internet. Hey.
              2. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. 4 September 2019 15: 15
                -2
                The authorities are already selling apartments to us? Real estate brokers? Oh how! I thought the development companies were private. By the way, does a private trader pay your salary or power?
                1. Beringovsky
                  Beringovsky 4 September 2019 17: 30
                  +1
                  Are you, Ivanov, pretending to be naive? Do you not know how we "combine" power and business? Everyone in the country knows, but Ivanov does not. Well then, I can't help you, sorry, apparently a very neglected case.
          2. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 4 September 2019 21: 59
            +3
            The area of ​​the network is small because the main part of the network was built several decades ago. During this time, the number of personal vehicles has grown many times, if not dozens of times, they began to live poorly.
      3. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 4 September 2019 12: 15
        +5
        Quote: Olya Tsako
        A TRIPPING AND SYSTEMATICALLY

        Eat a pyramidon and stop hysteria! If you call on lawlessness to answer with lawlessness (!); then what are you better? Yes you are the same wassat as those violating the laws on the part of the "authorities"! Will we respond to the White Terror with Red Terror? It was already! Come on! These are sacrifices on both sides and "humanity" in the red!
        1. freddyk
          freddyk 4 September 2019 13: 36
          0
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          Will we respond to white terror with red terror? It was already! Passed by! These are victims on both sides ...

          Your suggestions for an answer to white terror? Unilateral victims?
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 5 September 2019 02: 49
            +1
            Quote: freddyk
            Your suggestions for an answer to white terror? Unilateral victims?

            That's when the victims will appear ... they will really appear (!), Then we'll talk about what to do in response ... To respond to "terror" with "terror" ... to react to lawlessness by all available methods and means, regardless of on whether they are "spelled out" in the legislation or not ... perhaps when the situation undoubtedly (!) leaves the social and legal field! When the ruling power in its actions relies exclusively on such methods that clearly and finally erase the line between Law and Lawlessness, then this power thereby puts itself outside the law ... deprives itself of legitimacy! Then the people begin to be guided by their own laws: the law of the nation's self-preservation; the law of preserving her national state, preserving "her" quarter, preserving her family and the house where she lives, and allows the use of any means that she considers necessary .... This is like a war for existence! That is, this is a situation outside the framework of legislation, legal norms ... Until the situation has gone beyond the "framework", it is highly desirable to prevent lawlessness! If only because then all bastards, scoundrels, sociopaths, criminal "elements" will take advantage of "this" in the first place! I believe that until the situation has gone beyond the legal framework ... and we must act within this "framework." The fact that the ruling regime often does not comply with its own legislation, legal norms are "to blame" and the public ... the people ... the parties that declared themselves "the spokesmen of the interests of the people" ... "They are to blame" for their lack of activity, lack of consistency, persistence in upholding their rights and demands .... Lack of persistence, consistency of society's demands allows the authorities to evade an answer ... without receiving answers, the people cease to control the situation in the information aspect ... and "complacent"!
      4. artifact
        artifact 4 September 2019 12: 15
        +4
        Quote: Olya Tsako
        IS IT LIKELY AND SYSTEMATIC TO VIOLATE AND DISTURB "Article 31 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, which guarantees the right of citizens to hold peaceful assemblies, rallies, processions, demonstrations, pickets."
        LOOK WHAT THE AUTHORITIES AND THE MONEY HAVE CREATED WITH MOSCOW. Large, stupid, SUSTAINABLE DRILL village. A parody of the Babylonian pandemonium. The peripheral Khanty-Mansiysk mafia-degradation-building chaos !!!

        common words - about nothing. and against the background of the fact that Moscow is one of the best capitals in the world, you generally look ridiculous
      5. shtatsov
        shtatsov 4 September 2019 12: 21
        +8
        Do not like!? Give Sobyanin back to Tyumen! I will only be glad!
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          1. shtatsov
            shtatsov 4 September 2019 12: 29
            +2
            Thank you so much! Now I will continue to live quietly! Knowing how to write or write correctly!
            1. Mestny
              Mestny 4 September 2019 15: 14
              -2
              And who is this - thanks, and even huge?
              Son, what class are you in? In the seventh?
              1. shtatsov
                shtatsov 4 September 2019 21: 42
                0
                Dad. My son is 72 years of publication! Do not be rude!
        2. Nycomed
          Nycomed 4 September 2019 12: 30
          -1
          Let's dig deeper: Sobyanina - to Nyaksimvol! Tyumen is also affected here.
          1. shtatsov
            shtatsov 4 September 2019 12: 32
            +5
            It’s you who tell the Tyumen on the street that they suffered from Sobyanin! I think you can become the next victim!
      6. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 4 September 2019 12: 50
        0
        For me, Moscow is a beautiful, well-groomed city. No worse than Peter. City for man. And rallies - petitions, please hold away from the center. Do not bother the capital.
        1. Beringovsky
          Beringovsky 4 September 2019 13: 44
          -7
          And you, in Tyumen, what’s the matter, where are the rallies in Moscow?
          What does it mean to rake? Is normal democracy a raunch? Well, go to North Korea to live, you will like it there, there is definitely no such obscenity.
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 4 September 2019 13: 52
            +2
            I'm actually from St. Petersburg. Normal democracy is when protesters respect the rights of local people to freedom of movement and silence. Let them arrange their grooms in the country.
            1. Beringovsky
              Beringovsky 4 September 2019 14: 35
              +2
              And when 200-300 thousand protesters gather in the countryside, where will you send them? To the North Pole?
              There, in Shies, protesters are generally in the taiga, but they are turned and dragged into a jail. Can't you be there too?
              And the residents of Kiselevsk who were forbidden to drink tea together)))) belay request fool bother you too? wink
              What else prevents you from announcing the whole list, please. wassat
              1. Saul_Rhen
                Saul_Rhen 4 September 2019 20: 37
                +1
                At rallies, or at free concerts? Specify.
      7. garrett
        garrett 4 September 2019 13: 02
        +3
        AND IT IS LIKELY AND SYSTEMATIC TO VIOLATE AND PERVERT "Article 31

        do you distinguish between the concept of LAW and LAW ??? or is it trolling this ??
        1. Revival
          Revival 4 September 2019 18: 47
          -1
          One nuance.
          Enforcement shall not cancel the right
          1. garrett
            garrett 5 September 2019 09: 31
            +1
            One nuance.
            Enforcement shall not cancel the right

            and who argues with your statement ???))) but I’m not talking about this ... I’ll give an example: according to the constitution, you have the right to be elected president of the Russian Federation, but you are not the president, and Putin is because there are laws and regulations that explain how you can exercise your right .... also works with rallies / demonstrations.
            1. Revival
              Revival 5 September 2019 15: 19
              0
              About rallies and the constitution.
              Earlier, the text of the law was consistent, as the Notification Order was prescribed, and not allow / prohibit. And these are two big differences
      8. Sanichsan
        Sanichsan 4 September 2019 15: 18
        0
        Quote: Olya Tsako
        IS IT LIKELY AND SYSTEMATIC TO VIOLATE AND DISTURB "Article 31 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, which guarantees the right of citizens to hold peaceful assemblies, rallies, processions, demonstrations, pickets."

        not allowed! tie up with these ridiculous attempts to pervert the constitution! am there, there is also article 27 on freedom of movement in the constitution. wink are you suggesting you let everyone out of prisons?
        or may end your obscurantism and stop referring to the constitution in isolation from the Criminal Code?
      9. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 4 September 2019 18: 26
        0
        Freedom of demonstration? Well, I have the right to free movement, but I must drive in compliance with traffic rules. Don't you see any analogies?
    4. 210ox
      210ox 4 September 2019 11: 51
      +2
      Next time he will throw a grenade. That would be disgraceful, sit down, think.
      1. Snarkxnumx
        Snarkxnumx 4 September 2019 12: 10
        +6
        That's when he quit then plant. Judged for action and not for the intention of the action.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 4 September 2019 12: 46
          -3
          Well, of course) if you got a knife but didn’t kill then you didn’t attack) the logic with is simply murderous.
        2. 210ox
          210ox 4 September 2019 12: 54
          0
          Then explain to the families of the people affected by the explosion ..
        3. loki565
          loki565 4 September 2019 12: 56
          +2
          throws a grenade, sits not at 5 but at 15 and that's right
        4. Olgovich
          Olgovich 4 September 2019 14: 04
          +5
          Quote: Snark1876
          That's when he quit then plant. Judged for action and not for the intention of the action.

          Yeah, they are judged only for the SUCCESSFUL terrorist attack, And for intentions, "DO NOT judge" fool lol
          1. your1970
            your1970 4 September 2019 18: 34
            +2
            Quote: Olgovich
            Yeah, they are judged only for the SUCCESSFUL terrorist attack, And for intentions, "DO NOT judge"


            "Note. A person who participated in the preparation of a terrorist act is released from criminal liability if he is timely warned by the authorities or in any other way. contributed to the prevention of the terrorist act and if the actions of this person do not contain a different corpus delicti. "
            and the rest will be imprisoned
      2. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 4 September 2019 12: 39
        +6
        Quote: 210ox
        Next time he will throw a grenade.

        That's right .... "it's not his fault, because he didn't get it ..."! What the hell is this? So, until I hit it, it has the “right” to “train” until it’s “opupeniya”? A generation of “children”, “mothers and mothers”, “I am human rights activists” have grown up who are sure that they have the right to “send everyone” to and from. .. ", throw a stone, a bottle; and I can't even touch them with a finger! I in no way justify violations of the law by the authorities, law enforcement agencies, but I think that you cannot respond with lawlessness to lawlessness. When they call to deal with law enforcement officers, their children; this is not just a crime ... it is disgusting in human terms! Only in the event that the government begins to commit mass crimes against the people, flagrantly cynical against life, against morality; then only then the people have the right to resist by all available means .. ..
    5. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 4 September 2019 11: 56
      +16
      Interestingly, what in the United States relies on the call in social networks to crack down on the families of American police officers? I think there is clearly not an admin fine.
      1. loki565
        loki565 4 September 2019 13: 02
        +9
        Yes there rallies disperse with love, just like that whips democracy in all directions)))
    6. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 4 September 2019 12: 05
      +3
      Quote: Spartanez300
      Five years is probably too much, a good fine is enough for the first time so that it’s not bad.

      And if the ballot box is in you, for the performance of your duties? I suppose you want to shoot? Dobrenky, at someone else’s expense. angry
      1. Hey
        Hey 4 September 2019 15: 00
        +10
        And if the ballot box is in you, for the performance of your duties? I suppose you want to shoot? Dobrenky, at someone else’s expense.

        I am ex policeman if you want a cop, the urn didn’t fly into me, I won’t lie, but the stool flew, sometimes buttons, epaulets and stripes flew off, there were abrasions and bruises, and that because of this to break a person’s fate, they gave me an answer in the side, or in extreme cases, a day for hooliganism, or the worst punishment is a fine (of course, for the family budget). But if it was applied in fairness, there have never been any complaints. Yes, and now I meet those people with whom fate brought together, they smile, say hello.
        I know how the crowd "turns on" people, I saw in my father's day, if in an ordinary situation a person behaves normally and try to bring him up, then all the basest instincts appear in the crowd. And one must be ready for this, and make an amendment to it.
        Here, in this case, I consider political action. Inadequate punishment for the offense.
        Such situations must be prevented. And the Moscow authorities are to blame for everything, who did not allow the rally or the procession, and who clashed their heads with protest and sovereign people, I emphasize the federal employees, moving the arrows to the central government and, in particular, to Putin. And these bit a bit. Result on the face. Forest chopped wood fly.
    7. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
      SERGEY SERGEEVICS 4 September 2019 12: 05
      -2
      For such action and actions, it is necessary to punish even harder, so that it would be disgraceful for others to do so. Today he threw the ballot box, and tomorrow he can throw a Molotov cocktail.
    8. ilya63
      ilya63 4 September 2019 12: 09
      +2
      If you give for such a fine, now every fluorine major will go to the head of the police to throw urns for fun !!! correctly given !!!
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 4 September 2019 15: 21
        +1
        Quote: ilya63
        If you give for such a fine, now every fluorine major will go to the head of the police to throw urns for fun !!! correctly given !!!

        Right Family budget, budget oh, so depending on which family. Yes, for every urn beyond the hill, they will not chip in cookies! And the government is with us, and even that. And for the police, sorry why the police rush.
        МУД (МУД) Today, 15:00
        I’m a former policeman if you want a cop, the urn didn’t fly into me, I won’t lie, but the stool flew, sometimes buttons, epaulets and stripes flew off, there were abrasions and bruises, and that because of this they would break the fate of a person, well, they answered sideways, or in extreme cases for a day for hooliganism,
        Oh, they brought it in. “So why are you the first student in this school of scoundrels?” (To kill the dragon) There were thousands. It turns out you and the ringleader. Blood was needed, the task is clear. So get what you deserve, or snot. Not adequately, the same came over snot to me, a sovereign man. The situation is different, it turns out that you are from the planet Nebiru. feel
    9. Vend
      Vend 4 September 2019 12: 29
      -1
      Quote: Spartanez300
      Five years is probably too much, a good fine is enough for the first time so that it’s not bad.

      After the prison term, he will certainly not be disinclined. If there are brains. Although judging by what he did, there are no brains.
    10. Valery Valery
      Valery Valery 4 September 2019 12: 46
      -1
      Quote: Spartanez300
      Five years is probably too much, a good fine is enough for the first time so that it’s not bad.

      Fine?!!!
      This penalty will be paid from the box office of the US Congress.
      Only prison !!
    11. Olgovich
      Olgovich 4 September 2019 13: 10
      +3
      Quote: Spartanez300
      quite a good fine for the first time so that it was not bad.

      Yeah, "once-not, um, a diver". lol

      Do you understand what you are offering? The first time you can beat a policeman .... without fear! belay
    12. Labrador
      Labrador 4 September 2019 13: 27
      +1
      5 years can be a lot ... 4,5 would be enough :)
      You cannot offend those who guard the peace of ordinary citizens. The example of Ukraine is fresh. We do not need such a "g".
      1. freddyk
        freddyk 4 September 2019 13: 57
        +1
        Quote: Labrador
        You can not offend those who protect the peace of ordinary citizens.

        Who are you talking about now? About the police? Police had such tasks. The police are just protecting From ordinary citizens. Not simple.
        1. Labrador
          Labrador 4 September 2019 16: 33
          0
          I can only suggest going to a place where neither the police nor the police are looking. For example, in some Arab ghetto in prosperous Western Europe, for which many pray to God. And already from there to write news.
        2. Pavel57
          Pavel57 4 September 2019 18: 23
          0
          And when in Russia the police were replaced by the police, do you know?
    13. aries2200
      aries2200 4 September 2019 13: 45
      0
      again, a new wave of dissidence will grow in the prison ... 60s of the 80s of the XNUMXs .... and for those gap this ... is not good ...
    14. aries2200
      aries2200 4 September 2019 13: 45
      -1
      again, a new wave of dissidence will grow in the prison ... 60s of the 80s of the XNUMXs .... and for those gap this ... is not good ...
    15. ZAV69
      ZAV69 4 September 2019 13: 50
      +4
      No, that's fine. Others will think about what you can post and what not.
    16. shark
      shark 4 September 2019 13: 57
      +3
      What else to do with them? Scold? Appeal to conscience.? Purely as a historical excursion, without personal political predilections - Nicholas II also slightly scolded and rant about philanthropy and all forgiveness. And he finished very badly. Say, but what about hard labor and exile .. Think yourself what kind of hard labor it is if they wrote letters with milk dipping into an "inkwell" of bread. Wow, really hard labor. And if they waved the pick for 18 hours a day (like the NKVD), then stupid thoughts would not arise. If only not to get caught again .... So we do everything right. It is necessary that for a barely audible bunch in the direction of the National Guard, the criminal prosecution counter would start clicking.
    17. Awaz
      Awaz 4 September 2019 15: 15
      +2
      Understand that before that, for many many years, such tricks of this kind of stupid people were not punished in any way. The pyatihatka is certainly harsh, but this dude just turned out to be the patient, with whom they should start punishing the provocateurs of disorder at least somehow. But five years for the threats of abduction and murder - this is too humane.
      I have a life experience carving a drunken youth who attacked PPSnikov. Young people in my story did not suffer from the persecution of the cops. Well, they scolded and released ... The authorities for a long time were too loyal to the manifestations of aggression towards law enforcement agencies.
    18. 4ekist
      4ekist 4 September 2019 19: 27
      0
      There may be a fine, only one that remains in the end in the same underpants.
    19. Normal ok
      Normal ok 4 September 2019 20: 15
      +1
      Quote: Spartanez300
      Five years is probably too much, a good fine is enough for the first time so that it’s not bad.

      Well, yes, if I threw a pack of cigarettes, then all of 2 of the year would have been given. And then, the urn ...
    20. Misha Mihalkov
      Misha Mihalkov 5 September 2019 08: 28
      0
      In holy and sacred America, for such a prank sometimes bullets can be caught, oh yes there it can ....
    21. Pacifist
      Pacifist 5 September 2019 13: 14
      0
      Not too much. It would not be too much for the United States to simply shoot a moron. So 5 years for this and the rest, it’s quite an educational and preventive measure.
    22. lBEARl
      lBEARl 5 September 2019 17: 22
      0
      It looks more like an assassination attempt. If the court qualifies as an attempt on h. 1 Article. 318, then 5 years will not give. When attempted, the law provides for a decrease in the maximum amount of punishment within the sanction of the article.
  2. svp67
    svp67 4 September 2019 11: 39
    +7
    The prosecutor demands that Yevgeny Kovalenko be sent to a general colony, the lawyer, in turn, asks to dismiss the charges and fully justify the protester.
    I wouldn’t be surprised if they justify me, although of course it is necessary to punish for this and if not criminally, then administratively, roll in such a fine that the next time a person thinks, is it worth it to grab something heavy and just throw it at the police, even if and didn’t hit. I remember in the United States, for the same and can shoot. So let him rejoice that he is alive
    1. Cube123
      Cube123 4 September 2019 11: 56
      +6
      Quote: svp67
      The prosecutor demands that Yevgeny Kovalenko be sent to a general colony, the lawyer, in turn, asks to dismiss the charges and fully justify the protester.
      I wouldn’t be surprised if they justify me, although of course it’s necessary to punish for this and if not criminally, then administratively, roll in a fine so that the next time a person thinks, but is it worth it to grab something heavy and just throw it at the police, even if you didn’t get it.

      In such cases it is impossible to limit oneself to fines. Customers will pay a fine for the guilty party and it turns out that you can attack the police with complete impunity. At least the minimum risk for the offender personally should be mandatory.
      1. svp67
        svp67 4 September 2019 12: 01
        +6
        Quote: Cube123
        Customers will pay a fine for the guilty party

        Something Navalny is not in a hurry to do it. And do not forget that here it is already possible to raise the question of the origin of money. And demand the discovery of sources of their income
        1. Cube123
          Cube123 4 September 2019 12: 09
          +3
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: Cube123
          Customers will pay a fine for the guilty party

          Something Navalny is not in a hurry to do it. And do not forget that here it is already possible to raise the question of the origin of money. And demand the discovery of sources of their income

          Are there any legal grounds for this?
          Yes, - the guilty one must pay the fine (and even with reservations)
          https://its.1c.ru/db/newsclar#content:459455:hdoc
          But where he will get the money for this is now not regulated. Nothing prevents just providing him financial assistance in the amount of a fine.
          1. svp67
            svp67 7 September 2019 04: 18
            -1
            Quote: Cube123
            Nothing prevents just providing him financial assistance in the amount of a fine.

            You know, if you show yourself to be an implacable fighter against corruption and the most "honest", then it’s probably worth explaining where you got so much money from, that they are enough to pay for the work of a whole staff of employees, and "help" in paying fines, and of course why taxes are not paid on most amounts
        2. Terenin
          Terenin 4 September 2019 12: 52
          +6
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: Cube123
          Customers will pay a fine for the guilty party

          Something Navalny is not in a hurry to do it. And do not forget that here it is already possible to raise the question of the origin of money. And demand the discovery of sources of their income

          hi
          In general, no self-respecting country will allow the creation of practically "operational headquarters" of bulk, Echo of Moscow, Western embassies, etc. on an open call for unsanctioned marches and organizing riots.
          Their clear structure is immediately visible, this:
          - compensation for the participation of citizens of other regions (it is easier to financially motivate them (7 thousand rubles each), and the people in the capital are well acquainted with all the provocations of Navalny’s group and have long been unwilling to support criminals). People who are transported by bus to the capital are most often unable to even answer basic questions about what the action is dedicated to and what made them take part in it;
          - they all provided illegal SIM cards for secure communications and provided brigadiers to each group of several dozen people. The provocateurs were given the task of attracting the attention of law enforcement officers as much as possible, provoking them to use force. Everyone was warned that it was necessary to be prepared for skirmishes with riot police and, in the event of the detention of “their own”, to beat them off;
          -for lawbreakers, lawyers were prepared in advance, ready to provide their assistance in case of detention;
          - Another one of the "dirty" weapons of Navalny was the "troll factory" found in the Moscow region of Maryino. They urged people in the comments to go to rallies and organize riots (everyone who opposes the "opposition" is subjected to a massive attack by bots).

          Not to mention the calls of these "clever men" to deal with the children of law enforcement officers, which they consider justified and acceptable, although if they shout a little in their direction, then a terrible howl about the lawlessness of the authorities.
      2. bekub
        bekub 4 September 2019 12: 08
        0
        Right and fine too
    2. kit88
      kit88 4 September 2019 12: 09
      +7
      Quote: svp67
      I would not be surprised if acquitted

      No, they all sit down.
      If one has already given a pepper for a pepper spray, then this will be given. Not five of course, but no less than three rubles.
      Everything seems to be serious here, no conditions. Although this contradicts the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
    3. Jcvai
      Jcvai 4 September 2019 12: 09
      -3
      It will be like in a joke from the times of the USSR:
      Policeman:
      - Citizen, let’s go to the department, you are violating public order!
      Man:
      - Go away, dog!
      Policeman:
      - So ... also an insult in the performance of duties, you have a fine of 3 rubles.
      A man takes a chervonets from his pocket. Policeman:
      - But I do not have change from 10 rubles.
      - Well ... then you ... a dog ... a dog ... and a puppy for a ruble!
    4. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
      SERGEY SERGEEVICS 4 September 2019 12: 14
      +2
      roll in a fine so that the next time a person thinks

      His curator will pay the fine (who sent him there) and then he will continue to do it, such actions and this will not be a lesson for him, but 5 will sit out and the lesson will be for life.
      1. Dym71
        Dym71 4 September 2019 13: 02
        +5
        Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS
        His curator will pay this fine (who sent him there)

        Yeah, how, "will pay", their curators themselves are not enough! Those who sent him there are very happy with the situation with "innocent victims" - the task is to play off by any means. yes
        1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
          SERGEY SERGEEVICS 4 September 2019 13: 49
          0
          Quote: Dym71
          Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS
          His curator will pay this fine (who sent him there)

          Yeah, how, "will pay", their curators themselves are not enough! Those who sent him there are very happy with the situation with "innocent victims" - the task is to play off by any means. yes

          Yes, they have their own funds there, which lure and make payments, and those who do it, and then they PR for that. But if he is a boob, then here, no one will help, another will find a place for him.
  3. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 4 September 2019 11: 39
    +5
    Five years? Pts is good. Based on what would be disgraceful to others.
    1. Alex_You
      Alex_You 4 September 2019 12: 33
      +1
      That's the calculation.
  4. Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov 4 September 2019 11: 39
    +1
    An indicatively harsh sentence is needed so that others do not understand, because as we see in the example of Ukraine, impunity gives rise to permissiveness and chaos, the number of various "activists" who take part of the functions of the state on themselves is growing by leaps and bounds.
  5. alekc75
    alekc75 4 September 2019 11: 39
    0
    normal-way others think!
  6. Thrifty
    Thrifty 4 September 2019 11: 41
    -6
    Yes, in the foolishness of him for the same five years as those who conducted this action and organized it.
    1. Antidote
      Antidote 4 September 2019 11: 59
      -1
      They threw 5 years to people (except silovikov, of course), they threw VAT (there will be no consequences, they said), putting out the forest is not economically profitable. The country swallowed and wiped off.
      Some wanted choices, but no, transplanted everyone.
      God save the king.
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 4 September 2019 12: 50
        0
        the ability to choose what? break the law and threaten the life of the representative of the law? I would not be in power for such sentences with all hands for. because if they are not punished the next time they will bring grenades.
  7. yay
    yay 4 September 2019 11: 42
    +4
    Finally they began to plant them!
  8. WILL
    WILL 4 September 2019 11: 42
    +2
    Well this is overkill! What is the danger of this urn thrower ??? Reply - Must, but not the same ... let the sidewalk sweep a couple of months and plant trees! There will be more benefit than hanging it on the shoulders of taxpayers for five years.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 4 September 2019 11: 48
      +4
      He doesn’t like order on the street, let him sweep these streets for a couple of years !!!
      There is nothing to do from him as a prisoner, to WORK for the good of the city and society, let him! That's where his "activity" in favor will go.
      For the first time, you need to do without a criminal!
    2. K-612-O
      K-612-O 4 September 2019 11: 53
      +4
      First, the ballot box is a fine for donations of schoolchildren and PR, then paving stones, we will also regret the fine, and then the cocktails with grenades will go. On the Maidan, too, with glasses and flowers in the face of the Golden Eagle began, ended with armature and bullets.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 4 September 2019 12: 16
        -2
        Quote: K-612-O
        First, the ballot box is a fine for donations of schoolchildren and PR, then paving stones, we will also regret the fine, and then the cocktails with grenades will go. On the Maidan, too, with glasses and flowers in the face of the Golden Eagle began, ended with armature and bullets.

        And IMMEDIATELY IN PRISON, is that better or something!
        WORK THERAPY, from here to EVENING, as a sergeant / foreman in the army said! And not from such obliques MAN \ SOLDIER did!
        Recall the silly little fussies! they would send them to sweep yards, so after a couple of weeks they would forget about them! And so they will stink for them for a long time!
        Do you like to wear a gas mask? Elephants to portray .... I DO NOT !!!
    3. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 4 September 2019 11: 54
      +8
      Quote: ANIMAL
      Well this is overkill! What is the danger of this urn thrower ??? Reply - Must, but not the same ... let the sidewalk sweep a couple of months and plant trees! There will be more benefit than hanging it on the shoulders of taxpayers for five years.

      By precedent, it is dangerous. Well, think about it - threw the ballot box. Well, think of it, splashed a teardrop. Well, think of it, I got fittings. And as a result:


      The softness of sentences in such cases provokes an increase in violence. In the Empire, pomnitsa, it even came to the acquittal of political murderers. How it all ended - you remember.
      1. WILL
        WILL 4 September 2019 11: 58
        +2
        Do you sincerely believe that the Colony will correct him?
        Punishment in the form of correctional labor, sweeping the streets - a much more effective method of punishment! If he evades them ... more severe punishment.
        Vasilyeva - for example, they also gave five years, for multi-billion dollar thefts ... and they released them according to parole. Do you realize the proportionality of these criminals?
        1. bekub
          bekub 4 September 2019 12: 11
          +2
          Do you think in the colony someone will just let him sit out without working?
          1. WILL
            WILL 4 September 2019 12: 17
            -3
            Quote: bekub
            Do you think in the colony someone will just let him sit out without working?

            Did you even try to find out how much it costs to keep one prisoner in a colony? Google to the rescue. Data is open.
            I am against this behavior! Punishment must be necessary ... but - PROPORTANT to the crime! Why the hell (plant of the cabbage family) I have to pay from my taxes - the release of this Bortsun ???
            1. brat07
              brat07 6 September 2019 20: 27
              +1
              Quote: ANIMAL
              Quote: bekub
              Do you think in the colony someone will just let him sit out without working?

              Did you even try to find out how much it costs to keep one prisoner in a colony? Google to the rescue. Data is open.
              I am against this behavior! Punishment must be necessary ... but - PROPORTANT to the crime! Why the hell (plant of the cabbage family) I have to pay from my taxes - the release of this Bortsun ???

              By the way, in the USA there are private jail.
              And this means that they generate income and they are beneficial for the owner. wink
          2. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 4 September 2019 13: 23
            -1
            Quote: bekub
            Do you think in the colony someone will just let him sit out without working?

            And who will make him work?
        2. 210ox
          210ox 4 September 2019 12: 14
          +4
          Personally, he is not. It will not fix it. This is already a professional "victim of the gebney" .. Other hundreds thoughtful ..
          1. WILL
            WILL 4 September 2019 12: 31
            -3
            Quote: 210ox
            Personally, he is not. It will not fix it. This is already a professional "victim of the gebney" .. Other hundreds thoughtful ..

            I always read your comments with interest, almost always a plus, as they coincided with my opinion. Now my minus to you. I will explain for what ... The country pays for the maintenance of prisoners (FSIN) an amount greater than for HEALTH !!! Why the buoy - to produce these parasites ???
            1. 210ox
              210ox 4 September 2019 12: 46
              +5
              I partially agree. But here the thing is that if you do not stop, a snowball will go. And he will carry everyone, and you and me. Fines and administrative arrests have given much benefit to these idiots? No, they didn’t. Now let them think it over. hi
              1. WILL
                WILL 4 September 2019 12: 50
                +1
                I agree! hi So let him get correctional work! Once an urn specialist - let them scoop out their contents! yes
              2. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 4 September 2019 14: 06
                +5
                Quote: 210ox
                Fines and administrative arrests have given much benefit to these idiots?

                Fines and preventive measures were not given anything, only all those fined felt impunity. I remember well Moscow in 1968, when the tumor was quickly and professionally eliminated without drooling. And as the song says "The beloved city can sleep peacefully."
            2. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 4 September 2019 14: 20
              +3
              Quote: ANIMAL
              Why the buoy - to produce these parasites ???

              And at Lavrenty Pavlovich they brought a very large income to the state.
        3. artifact
          artifact 4 September 2019 12: 31
          +4
          Quote: ANIMAL
          Do you sincerely believe that the Colony will correct him?
          Punishment in the form of correctional labor, sweeping the streets - a much more effective method of punishment! If he evades them ... more severe punishment.
          Vasilyeva - for example, they also gave five years, for multi-billion dollar thefts ... and they released them according to parole. Do you realize the proportionality of these criminals?

          punishment does not imply correction. it’s just an indicative punishment and a demonstration of the fact that if something happens, the authorities and society are ready to withstand liberal outrage. well, and as a bonus, it will shake the morale of the protesters and bring about a split between them and their owners.
        4. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 4 September 2019 12: 51
          +5
          Do you sincerely believe that the Colony will correct him?

          No. I believe that after sitting in it he will no longer want to go there. This is how the modern "intelligentsia" is.
          1. 210ox
            210ox 4 September 2019 13: 34
            +4
            "It's not a mange pa sis zhur .." Will go to Europe to beg .. Of course he does not want to go there. And maybe hundreds of them won't. Also saving on the FSIN
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 4 September 2019 13: 50
            +4
            Quote: Okolotochny
            Not. I believe that after sitting in it he will not want to go there anymore

            The colony will not correct, but the desire will disappear.
        5. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 4 September 2019 12: 52
          +3
          it may not. and the next ten scary next time it will also fall under the distribution. and they will know that you’ll rush to go to jail. This is quite correct.
      2. Beringovsky
        Beringovsky 4 September 2019 18: 10
        +2
        The softness of sentences in such cases provokes an increase in violence. In the Empire, pomnitsa, it even came to the acquittal of political murderers. How it all ended - you remember.

        Actually pomnitsa it came after Bloody Sunday, Stolypin ties, executions of workers and military field courts. And how did this help the Empire? Embittered people, that's all. Suggest to repeat? Oh well ...
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 5 September 2019 10: 19
          +2
          Quote: Beringovsky
          Actually, the pomnitsa got it after Bloody Sunday, Stolypin ties, executions of workers and military field courts.

          It came to this. When it was possible to seriously injure the mayor - and to be acquitted in court, leaving the heroine from the courtroom. Immediately after that, by the way, the chief of the gendarmes was killed.
    4. Vasya was here
      Vasya was here 4 September 2019 11: 54
      +3
      And what was the danger of those from Kuev. Do not set precedents.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 4 September 2019 12: 38
        +3
        COLONY makes a complete deb - BIL - la out of the "little man"!
        Ali someone believes / thinks that OUR CORRECTIVE SYSTEM is capable of something else !!!
        In principle, few people in the world can boast that the correction of those who have stumbled is successful! This is not only our reality.
    5. 210ox
      210ox 4 September 2019 12: 12
      +5
      This is how they appear ... "onizhedeti" .. But I am by no means a supporter of all our hands-on drivers .. But you must not let the brakes down.
    6. Olgovich
      Olgovich 4 September 2019 14: 18
      0
      Quote: ANIMAL
      Well this is overkill! What is the danger of this urn thrower ???

      Yeah, FIRST TIME, so you can beat cops (think, I'll pay!).
      But the second .... recourse

      can not be so...
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 4 September 2019 11: 46
    +8
    The main thing is that they were not allowed to go quickly and naturally. Today Norkin had a telephone conversation with Sinitsa's lawyer, who accused NTV of the court's decision on his client. Some kind of childish babble on the part of a lawyer with the support of program participants who identify themselves as liberals. The verdict can serve as a good warning for other bloggers from the so-called. "opposition", which has not been measured in measure.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 4 September 2019 13: 48
      +3
      Quote: rotmistr60
      The main thing is that they quickly and were not allowed to drift.

      The disease must be localized in the fetus. We all saw this in 2014, when we lost time.
  10. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 4 September 2019 11: 49
    -3
    For thrown urn in riot police asked five years in prison
    It will not be enough. Attempted murder.
    1. Rzzz
      Rzzz 4 September 2019 11: 59
      +5
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Attempted murder.

      Come on. The astronauts are all in protective suits. A maximum of a couple of bruises - it’s even difficult to pull on light damage to health. Moreover, he did not throw the ballot box.
      Another thing is surprising. How quickly it all turned. In real cases, people have been sitting in jail for years, waiting for trial. Here, in a couple of weeks, they instituted, investigated, charged, and already in court.
      And the term for him is even more severe for prosecutors than for large corrupt officials who caused damage to the state .. well, everything is more substantial.
      1. Barmaleyka
        Barmaleyka 4 September 2019 12: 10
        -7
        Quote: rzzz
        In real cases, people have been sitting in jail for years, waiting for trial.

        can you give examples?
        1. WILL
          WILL 4 September 2019 15: 57
          -2
          And let me - I will give you an example ...
          My very mediocre acquaintance (in the sense of talking only a couple of times) was thrown for money, specific scammers ... he wrote a statement to the police, waited half a year ... and then he ran, help don’t give up. We started to deal with the case ... all the slowdown on one person who was apparently paid. Stunned Everything to initiate a business - we need Dating !!! Well, there are connections not only through the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
          And then they found ... The enemy of the State.
          Do you want to live in such a system?
          1. Barmaleyka
            Barmaleyka 4 September 2019 17: 10
            -2
            Quote: ANIMAL
            And let me - I will give you an example ...

            uh
            so who is sitting a year in jail? !!!!!
            1. WILL
              WILL 4 September 2019 17: 16
              -1
              Here you are difficult .... but many who. Another friend - they were kept in jail for two years. They accused him of creating a criminal community, ... he sold discount cards ... then the charges were dropped and they apologized ... he was soldered to him for five years for "fraud."
              1. Barmaleyka
                Barmaleyka 4 September 2019 19: 12
                -3
                Quote: ANIMAL
                Here you are difficult .... but many who.

                specifically who?
                Quote: ANIMAL
                Another friend - they were kept in jail for two years. They accused him of creating a criminal community, ... he sold discount cards ... then the charges were dropped and they apologized ... he was soldered to him for five years for "fraud."

                you forgive me for not using anything, either apologized or soldered for five years, that is, three taking into account 2 in jail
              2. Barmaleyka
                Barmaleyka 4 September 2019 19: 12
                -3
                Quote: ANIMAL
                Here you are difficult .... but many who.

                specifically who?
                Quote: ANIMAL
                Another friend - they were kept in jail for two years. They accused him of creating a criminal community, ... he sold discount cards ... then the charges were dropped and they apologized ... he was soldered to him for five years for "fraud."

                you forgive me for not using anything, either apologized or soldered for five years, that is, three taking into account 2 in jail
                1. WILL
                  WILL 4 September 2019 20: 05
                  -1
                  Do you have a template gap? They can apologize and solder for five years ... in court, removing one article and replacing another.
                  And follow the words ... about "do not use anything." The Internet is great ... and people here ... and should remain people.
                  1. Barmaleyka
                    Barmaleyka 4 September 2019 20: 43
                    -2
                    five years were given in the case or not?
                    1. WILL
                      WILL 5 September 2019 08: 47
                      -1
                      In my opinion ... No. Just ironed out the jamb.
                      1. Barmaleyka
                        Barmaleyka 5 September 2019 10: 21
                        -3
                        Quote: ANIMAL
                        In my opinion

                        But in the eyes of the law?
                        cards sold or not?
                      2. WILL
                        WILL 5 September 2019 10: 27
                        -2
                        Hmm ... what forbids him to sell discount cards? He contacted suppliers of products, interested them ... knocked out discounts ... and?
                        Selling services.
                      3. Barmaleyka
                        Barmaleyka 5 September 2019 11: 07
                        -3
                        Quote: ANIMAL
                        Selling services.

                        well then you don’t agree something
                      4. WILL
                        WILL 5 September 2019 11: 11
                        -2
                        I’ll throw you this thing of the century in a personal ...
                        I don’t want to put a person’s staff on display.
                      5. Barmaleyka
                        Barmaleyka 5 September 2019 14: 04
                        -3
                        it seems to me that either you are not negotiating or your friend, I'm sorry, but it’s somehow far-fetched, if your friend is not guilty why didn’t appeal, on the basis of which the verdict was passed, at least some evidence, but should have been
                      6. Barmaleyka
                        Barmaleyka 5 September 2019 15: 21
                        -3
                        next time, don’t be shy, write a story right away I heard in the kitchen not how much truth I don’t know, according to the tenth storyteller
                        it’s just all that you wrote nonsense and fiction
                      7. WILL
                        WILL 5 September 2019 15: 40
                        -1
                        There are many factors that distinguish normal people from imbecile. You were born with this ... well, maybe at least they will give disability! laughing
                      8. Barmaleyka
                        Barmaleyka 5 September 2019 15: 45
                        -3
                        Well, in any case, I do not give out stories told by a friend of a friend, for what happened to loved ones, the officer’s daughter is dear hi
                        ps do not disgrace yourself already and so in all its glory showed
                      9. Barmaleyka
                        Barmaleyka 5 September 2019 16: 01
                        -3
                        want to tell you how the weight was
                        An acquaintance of acquaintances of your acquaintances was selling left discount cards, he was picked up on this, he soared for 2 years in a pre-trial detention center, how they gathered a crowd of victims, worked with card manufacturers, etc. sat down for fraud, that is, for what they took. so that you would be aware of TODAY'S norms ALL working in the zone receive a salary, so that nothing beyond the natural that he was not paid was given 5 years, that is, after serving 3 it is quite possible to get out on condition, two years in jail plus a year in the zone was released on parole, and you have already found a new Solzhenitsyn in "your" inmate
                      10. WILL
                        WILL 5 September 2019 16: 13
                        -2
                        Try to tell the children .... they didn’t even look at the case, but there are already conclusions ... what should I call you after that?
                        Imbecil is a person not capable of analysis.
                      11. Barmaleyka
                        Barmaleyka 5 September 2019 16: 38
                        -2
                        Quote: ANIMAL
                        not even looked

                        so give me the number of the case, by which court your and Kharchenko was convicted, only now you don’t have all this, how do you spread gossip
                      12. WILL
                        WILL 5 September 2019 17: 58
                        -2
                        Here's a bore ... in PM threw off the case number. am
                        Why the buoy ... to pronounce a surname? Snitch?
                      13. Barmaleyka
                        Barmaleyka 5 September 2019 21: 43
                        -2
                        read develop http://www.vsrf.ru/stor_pdf.php?id=418330
                        and before throwing off I’d read it myself, again in a puddle sitting on my very ears
                        ps in the case, in addition to your "innocent" convicted type of acquaintance, another 9 (NINE) people sat down, when applying to the Supreme Court, the punishment was left unchanged so that it would be enough to carry a blizzard
      2. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 4 September 2019 12: 13
        +4
        Put on a protective suit, and let your friends throw the ballot box at you. And then anoint the bean with green stuff. For there cannot be a concussion, there is a bone.
        1. Rzzz
          Rzzz 4 September 2019 12: 15
          -5
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          Wear a protective suit, and you

          I fell from a motorcycle, at low speed, thank God. Comparable?
          1. Mavrikiy
            Mavrikiy 4 September 2019 12: 16
            +3
            Quote: rzzz
            Quote: Mavrikiy
            Wear a protective suit, and you

            I fell from a motorcycle, at low speed, thank God. Comparable?

            It looks like the consequences ....
            1. Rzzz
              Rzzz 4 September 2019 12: 23
              +3
              Consequences - I had several bruises and abrasions on the uncovered parts of the body. Pants tore. Jacket spoiled a little. It was necessary to change the plastic on the milk.
              And you, dear, obviously have some problems. But I will not undertake to diagnose, this narrow specialist is needed.
              1. Barmaleyka
                Barmaleyka 4 September 2019 17: 11
                -3
                Quote: rzzz
                I had several bruises and abrasions on the uncovered parts of the body. Torn pants

                and at the top of the bone?
                1. Rzzz
                  Rzzz 4 September 2019 23: 19
                  0
                  At the top of what? I fell on my right thigh and sideways.
          2. Barmaleyka
            Barmaleyka 4 September 2019 17: 11
            -3
            Quote: rzzz
            I fell from a motorcycle

            since then do you like when they throw bins at you?
            1. Rzzz
              Rzzz 4 September 2019 23: 17
              -1
              They don’t throw bins at me. I guess I did not deserve such an honor.
              You can try, and for you, the consequences will not even last five years. You walk around for a year.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 4 September 2019 13: 43
      +1
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      It will not be enough. Attempted murder.

      Now when they put them in prison, then others will understand that impunity will not pass.
    3. 72jora72
      72jora72 5 September 2019 14: 27
      0
      It will not be enough. Attempted murder.
      To count them! On stake! When crowded, on Red Square, under the joyful hooting of the crowd, and family selfies in the background enemies of the people and power.
      1. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 5 September 2019 17: 29
        -1
        That's right, the people here are just hungry for blood.
  11. yehat
    yehat 4 September 2019 11: 50
    +1
    Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
    It’s more effective to punish approximately. Landing is a very good example for a good deal.

    that's just landing does not have normal visibility.
    much more useful to punish him with a suspended sentence and corrective labor
    say half a year or a year of community service
    For example, walking in the park and collecting garbage and dog poop, either as a nurse in a psychiatric hospital or as an assistant in a nursing home. In my opinion, this teaches better.
    it is worth thinking about the Muslim practice of public punishment.
    And blind repression in the form of a term of 5 years, which is easy to replicate to the crowd, is already an oppression of those who really want to fight for their rights - there are less and less legal means available for this.
  12. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 4 September 2019 11: 51
    +11
    Very interesting, but for some reason all the names of the defendants evoke something ... Well, maybe I'm wrong. I remembered about 15-20 years ago in China on Tiananmen Square, one journalist spat on a portrait of Mao Zedong, got 10 years. The accusation is simple, "You didn't hang, and you don't care." The authorities must protect their employees. And then they lit a bodyagu, public protection, a human rights court. Violated the law, get a sentence according to the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
    1. Snarkxnumx
      Snarkxnumx 4 September 2019 12: 16
      -5
      what article? Who are the judges? Was there damage? Have you been injured? What happened? Watch the video. Unlawful actions of police officers. Riot police did not have the right to disperse a peaceful rally. And the right to self-defense was not taken away from us by anyone.
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 4 September 2019 13: 00
        +4
        you hold your peaceful rallies in a forest where there are no people and no one will touch you. but to me, for example, as a city dweller, all your dances are not needed. you interfere with ordinary people. after that trick on the Arbat, I generally think it is necessary to send such nafig from the city. he had no right .. he at least defended my rights. calmly walk the streets. say self-defense right? and people like me have it, but for some reason we don’t throw ballots at the police.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 4 September 2019 13: 38
          +4
          Quote: carstorm 11
          at least he defended my rights. calmly walk the streets. say self-defense right? and people like me have it, but for some reason we don’t throw ballots at the police.

          That's right, people from these ghouls already have no passage, no security, but defenseless children and old people walk around right there, or you don't give a damn if only to make their own political "zuhenwey". Here you need to protect citizens, but not you.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 4 September 2019 14: 16
        -1
        Quote: Snark1876
        Riot police did not have the right to disperse a peaceful rally. And the right to self-defense was not taken away from us by anyone.

        I would have seen what would have happened to the "urn thrower" in the most democratic country in the United States of America. Or do you doubt it?
      3. VeteranVSSSR
        VeteranVSSSR 4 September 2019 14: 32
        0
        All true-pure administration, i.e. FINE!!!
        Well, you can’t throw garbage out of damage, but you need garbage .. put in bins ...
  13. Antidote
    Antidote 4 September 2019 11: 52
    +5
    Breaking legs as they walk past is normal and nothing like that, pushing the cop from the person to be beaten is 4 years.
    Meanwhile, Hong Kong authorities overturned the extradition decision.
    1. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 4 September 2019 12: 53
      +2
      Are you from the same "crowd"? Probably the video was filmed at this time? "Menta"! Eh you, little man.
  14. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 4 September 2019 11: 57
    +4
    If I had got and injured, then I would have sat, although I certainly hadn’t pulled five times, and if I hadn’t gotten, I tried to fine the sensitive one and fifteen days with socially useful work on the basis of the local COLLECTION.
  15. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 4 September 2019 12: 06
    0
    First, this ghoul will throw an urn, and then it will start shooting.
    Into his jail.
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  17. Romv
    Romv 4 September 2019 12: 07
    0
    It’s normal not to touch people in uniform when performing
  18. Barmaleyka
    Barmaleyka 4 September 2019 12: 08
    -4
    the lawyer, in turn, asks to dismiss the allegations of the prosecution and fully justify the participant in the action.
    lawyer with débil to the zone
    1. Primipilus
      Primipilus 4 September 2019 12: 27
      0
      A lawyer for what? it's just his job.
      1. Barmaleyka
        Barmaleyka 4 September 2019 13: 45
        -4
        for company
  19. bober1982
    bober1982 4 September 2019 12: 12
    +1
    The demon beguiled the man, lived in a one-room apartment with his mother, worked in the departmental security of the Russian Railways, and quite unexpectedly became a fighter against the "regime." Now. by his own stupidity, he will receive legal punishment.
  20. Foxnova
    Foxnova 4 September 2019 12: 20
    +9
    Now imagine OMON would throw an urn in a sable that would be
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 4 September 2019 13: 43
      +2
      Quote: FoxNova
      Now imagine OMON would throw an urn in a sable that would be

      and what would happen?
      From July 17 to July 18, 2006, 38 employees of the Sochi Special Purpose Police Detachment beat 28 people in the Druzhba children's recreation complex. Most of the victims are vacationers from various regions of Russia. People were killed at a time when riot policemen were looking for offenders of their friends. The day before, two drunk policemen began to pester local girls, for which they were beaten by their guys. The next day, the offenders organized a “Retribution” campaign, as they themselves put it (witness testimony), at the Druzhba MLC

      In search of the defenders of the affected girls the entire Sochi riot police rode out. Armed with stun guns and batons, riot police broke into the territory of the children's camp at night. First, they beat a guard who did not open the gate for police cars to pass. The same fate befell everyone who at least a little resisted them. They grabbed the innocent people with ropes, handcuffed them, laid them face down on the beach pebbles and tortured them while walking on them and beat them with berets.
    2. brat07
      brat07 6 September 2019 20: 57
      +1
      Quote: FoxNova
      Now imagine OMON would throw an urn in a sable that would be

      And did not hit. wink
  21. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 4 September 2019 12: 22
    0
    10 days, 30 days that we chew a washcloth, dear little men or what? Libertians, children of a dog's mom.
  22. Nikolay Fedorov
    Nikolay Fedorov 4 September 2019 12: 30
    +1
    Quote: from article
    The prosecutor demands that Yevgeny Kovalenko be sent to a general colony, the lawyer, in turn, asks to dismiss the charges and fully justify the protester.

    Those. according to the "lawyer", the attempted murder of a law enforcement officer is not a criminal offense. Now, if there was an attempt to murder a lawyer or a common man, then, of course, in the opinion of the "lawyer" it is necessary to punish.
    Quote: from article
    ... the defense of Kovalenko, accused under Part 1 of Article 318 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (use of violence against a representative of the authorities) notes that the abandoned ballot box did not hit the employees of the Russian Guard and did not harm anyone.

    Those. if a pretzel threw a knife at you, but due to weak untrained hands it didn’t stick into your body, then the pretzel can safely go home and continue to train in throwing knives.
    Or the same pretzel, the next time you throw it, will not throw the ballot box (knife, log, ax, spear, pitchfork ...), go and take a gun (automatic, machine gun, grenade launcher, ZU-23 or ZSU-57-2 ...) , shoots, but doesn’t hit ... So, in the opinion of this unfinished (or remade) lawyer, this pretzel can go home again and train further. After all, he did not hit and did no harm to anyone.
    Quote: from article
    today, two more participants in illegal actions, Konstantin Kotov and Kirill Zhukov, should be sentenced. According to investigators, Kotov repeatedly violated the rules for holding public events, and Zhukov was accused of using non-dangerous violence against a government official.

    And here it is already becoming interesting. Kotov's harmless violence - how is it ?! He stood at a safe distance from riot police and scary eyes? Or showed with two hands with clenched fists and a characteristic movement of the pelvis how he will use violence to employees?
    1. Nikolay Fedorov
      Nikolay Fedorov 4 September 2019 12: 34
      -1
      Quote: Nikolai Fedorov
      Kotov's harmless violence - how is it ?! He stood at a safe distance from riot police and scary eyes? Or showed with two hands with clenched fists and a characteristic movement of the pelvis how he will use violence to employees?

      Thought, thought on this issue and understood! Non-threatening violence is to put a scribble or fofan to a police officer. Fofan is not dangerous, but how insulting!
    2. Beringovsky
      Beringovsky 4 September 2019 18: 19
      0
      At the trial, Kirill Zhukov decided to look at the video discs. The TV was turned on in the hall, but the player refused to play the disc. request Then they tried to turn it on on the computer.
      And it spread through the hall: "Russia without Putin."
      belay belay belay
      Unexpectedly, everyone announced a break of 10 minutes.
      good
  23. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 4 September 2019 12: 30
    0
    No, but what did he want? You must express your opinion by peaceful means and legally. Let's throw all the bins, is that in the country?
  24. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 4 September 2019 12: 31
    +2
    5 years is quite humane. In the United States, he would be shot immediately and without consequences for the police.
    Unbelievable bastards need to be taught. If parents did not teach him in childhood, then it is never too late and never too early. The five will not be given, but a three-ruble note is quite enough to make corns on the logging fit.
  25. yehat
    yehat 4 September 2019 12: 35
    +2
    Quote: Snark1876
    And the right to self-defense was not taken away from us by anyone.

    self-defense - just move away from the riot police.
    Why throw the ballot box ??? after all, even if it falls on your foot - a guaranteed cripple.
    This is called self-defense - hypocrisy.
    Yes, our power is ugly. But this is no reason to become even uglier.
  26. vvp2412
    vvp2412 4 September 2019 12: 35
    +3
    In turn, the defense of Kovalenko, accused under part 1 of article 318 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (use of violence against a government official) notes that the abandoned ballot box did not hit the employees of the Russian Guard and did not harm anyone

    Those. if he shot at a policeman and didn’t hit, then there was no crime? So it turns out?
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  28. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 4 September 2019 12: 40
    +2
    Finally, they began to apply adequate measures to the offender.

    It is a pity that the coordinator of these provocations - Navalny, Volkov, Sable and others remained at large.
  29. yehat
    yehat 4 September 2019 12: 41
    -2
    Quote: vvp2412
    Those. if he shot at a policeman and didn’t hit, then there was no crime? So it turns out?

    there was an attempt to commit a crime. as far as I remember, the law does not prohibit shooting in the presence of the police.
  30. Guards turn
    Guards turn 4 September 2019 12: 55
    +2
    In America, if a cop got an urn on his head, he would immediately have released the entire clip into the offender and would have received a bonus from his superiors for this.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 4 September 2019 13: 39
      +3
      Quote: Guards turn
      if the cop got the urn on the head, he would immediately have released the entire clip into the offender and would have received a bonus from the authorities for this.

      Well, tell me the other side, what will they do to the cop for breaking the law?
      1. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 4 September 2019 21: 58
        -2
        At this rally, one of the cops specifically violated the law? Then we will discuss it, and for now, the liberde is satisfied with the pogroms by the liberd and must respond.
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 4 September 2019 22: 01
          +5
          Quote: Incvizitor
          did any of the cops specifically break the law?

          we can discuss, although we must judge, not discuss

          How legal is a police strike in a woman’s stomach? How is he punished?
          1. Incvizitor
            Incvizitor 4 September 2019 22: 07
            -2
            Where is the hit video? Was it a blow or was it just that the hand is in the photo in front of the stomach? What did the woman do before, maybe rushed at them, pulled out? The question then is how innocent is she?
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 4 September 2019 22: 16
              0
              Quote: Incvizitor
              Where is the hit video? Was it a blow or was it just that the hand is in the photo in front of the stomach? What did the woman do before, maybe rushed at them, pulled out? The question then is how innocent is she?

              Everything has long been sucked, the fact took place. On YouTube there are videos with lame and detailed footage, the name of the person who struck and the circumstances of the incident are already known. Search. It is clear that the undefended urn inflicted an indelible trauma on the policeman's weak psyche, which turned out to be stronger than a punch in the woman's stomach. But the trial has already taken place with the urn, and the policeman who struck is still at large. The "Pearl" ensign from St. Petersburg also thought so, but he was mistaken. The award has found a "hero"
              1. Incvizitor
                Incvizitor 4 September 2019 22: 27
                -1
                It is not enough to discuss the meaning without the video clippings and what is the strange translation of the arrows? Specifically, they are discussing the offender who attacked the policeman, how, for me, it is useless to retrain him, they are finished, but other similar jackals will be a good example, since they will think about five years for the "ten silversmiths" of the FSA.
              2. Incvizitor
                Incvizitor 5 September 2019 21: 12
                -1
                So where is at least some link to the video? Should I go into this liberal cesspool from a heap of similar videos and find out from them where, without any lies and rigging, there is exactly "the very video"?
                PS I would like to go and take out this liberda, I have a weapon, but they themselves will be imprisoned then, soon these freaks will get the people so that they will be searched for by photos and "visit" at home.
          2. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 4 September 2019 23: 01
            -3
            Punished for what? For the performance of their duties? Was he supposed to kiss her? When resisting a law enforcement officer?
          3. Atenon
            Atenon 5 September 2019 09: 04
            +2
            At 100%, equal rights!
  31. xortitza
    xortitza 4 September 2019 12: 59
    +4
    I read your posts on the topic, I think everyone has their own truth with one, but everyone hears only himself, this is the problem. You don’t have a law, in fact, both yours and ours. We have 3 colonies for such a year, so they’ll come and be afraid to get home before the trial in the court of fools. There’s no life for yourself to spoil the clowns who ordered all this and you sit down and he jumps into Europe - guess who the sucker is after that.
  32. Airmedved
    Airmedved 4 September 2019 13: 05
    +1
    Quote: Olya Tsako
    Baby, calm down. You rinse the dirt of your mouth. Spit dead neurons. Thank Gene. section of the USSR Gorbachev, Raismanda Maksudovna and 1st Secretary of the Sverdlovsk Regional Committee of the CPSU-Yeltsin.
    THEY DECIDED. And not your "such ativists-capital residents-Petrograd people prospered the Russian Empire and" activists-Muscovites came in large numbers here are that demoniac crowd with the help of which the USSR was destroyed .. "

    It is necessary, however, to pick up gadgets in Kashenko, tired of interpreting.

    So are you killing about the USSR, or crying about the trampled Russian empire?
  33. Graz
    Graz 4 September 2019 13: 13
    +2
    Well, the question is most likely in the consequences for the policeman in which the ballot box was thrown, if nothing serious, then the punishment should be appropriate from corrective labor in civilian life, up to a year of imprisonment, if something serious for health then there should already be another punishment,
    the punishment must be fair and not go too far either way
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 4 September 2019 13: 38
      -1
      Quote: Graz
      the punishment must be fair and not go too far either way

      this, just in case, so that others are not discouraged. And then after all, it’s a matter of larger protests, there will no longer be ballot boxes flying
    2. Snarkxnumx
      Snarkxnumx 4 September 2019 19: 13
      0
      the urn fell before it reached. visible on the video.
  34. xortitza
    xortitza 4 September 2019 13: 13
    0
    I want to say that, as it is already known, we were a great Power together and remained like that old woman with a broken trough and in which all the sorrow 1 percent lives well, and you and I somehow don’t remind us of anything like 100 years ago
  35. BISMARCK94
    BISMARCK94 4 September 2019 13: 23
    +1
    As for me, the situation has long come to a standstill. On peaceful actions of power by the drum (after the pension reform, how many people came out?). The authorities react to aggressive ones only with punishments. No feedback. NO
    1. Voyager
      Voyager 4 September 2019 14: 01
      +2
      What kind of feedback do you want? To abolish the pension reform or to allow the election of dubious individuals who could not collect the required number of signatures?
      1. Denis Medveezhikoff
        Denis Medveezhikoff 4 September 2019 14: 21
        -3
        Do they alone have dead souls?
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 4 September 2019 15: 26
          -3
          Do they have them? Have you broken the law?
          Yes or no?
      2. Revival
        Revival 4 September 2019 18: 15
        -2
        abolish pension reform
        1. Voyager
          Voyager 4 September 2019 18: 50
          +2
          Sergey, in our country there are about 146 million people. There were fewer than ten thousand protesters. Now judge for yourself, do you really think that such strategic decisions have not been weighed for a long time? Do you really think that this is not a final decision, a forced step for the budget, which is predicted for decades to come? And do you really seriously think that the protesters on the street (of the strength of 0,01% of the total population) can and should somehow influence this?
          1. Revival
            Revival 4 September 2019 18: 54
            0
            Your arguments are late, the government itself has admitted that the pension reform has failed and the desired results from it are near zero.
            So, yes, I didn’t think through it thoroughly and the goals are not the ones that PR so much on TV.
            And plus, forced or not, but the government should not ignore the will of the people.
            And the fact that the people are 95 percent against and this is known, even the president said in a famous speech
            1. Saul_Rhen
              Saul_Rhen 4 September 2019 21: 24
              0
              Minus. Write nonsense and slogans again
              1. Revival
                Revival 4 September 2019 23: 37
                +1
                Extremely informative))
                Uchtu
  36. New Year day
    New Year day 4 September 2019 13: 36
    +1
    In December 2018, a court in Tatarstan sentenced two police officers, Albert Samigullin and Vitaliy Mustafin, to probation for abuse of power. In a state of intoxication, they brutally beat a man suffering from stuttering from childhood, demanding from him confession in the theft of ceramic tiles.
  37. Raccoon 23
    Raccoon 23 4 September 2019 13: 40
    0
    Sergey Kovalenko threw the ballot box
    And for five years the blogger got Some Tit. Do not confuse please and re-read the article.
  38. aries2200
    aries2200 4 September 2019 13: 41
    +2
    plant and there is no other alternative .. almost got ... almost considered ....
  39. Sasha ___
    Sasha ___ 4 September 2019 14: 16
    0

    RIA News
    12:22
    Rosgvardeets said that he became afraid for his daughter after the post of blogger Tit

    Rosgvardeets also explained that he is now afraid of empty plastic bottles and paper cups
    For a month now, he has been tormented by nightmares in which strangers swipe his finger across the glass of his helmet. Passing the urn, he begins to cry. (Chikov)
    I would not be surprised if this Rosgvardeets also crap. And this is already aggravating, about 7 years.
    Seriously, the cops write fictitious testimonies in the protocols with the aim of pulling the hedgehogs already. And the judges in unison wave the sentences. Soon this system will hit everyone. For everyone who does not agree with the landfill under the windows, the destruction of the square where his children are walking, the destruction of the Baikal or ruined medicine - to everyone who is worried about their homeland. And the paid bots on VO will continue to tell the lackeys how good it is when their master at the stable flogs. And send to court.
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 4 September 2019 15: 23
      -3
      Do not worry, soon the system will collapse, and then complete freedom will come.
      And then your juvenile foam head will be unscrewed by fighters for justice similar to you.
      Believe me, it will be so. Whatever your school brain represents to you.
      1. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 5 September 2019 17: 42
        -1
        Can you believe me

        Believing you is the last thing to do.
  40. Denis Medveezhikoff
    Denis Medveezhikoff 4 September 2019 14: 20
    -1
    It’s interesting, but what kind of garbage that they did there, etc., how many years will they face? They sprayed their side and sprayed their garbage side .... They’re straight cardboard, you’ll scatter .... But they themselves don’t have anything ..... New guardsmen ... I am surprised by such bloodthirstiness in the comments. Gentlemen, Kremlin Kremlin workers, why don’t you immediately propose to shoot him for an abandoned urn? I wonder how much the Kremlin pays you? Any more than to the pensioners whom your policemen are there
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 4 September 2019 14: 28
      0
      How old are you? a lot of grammatical errors, the level of illiteracy just rolls over, from young admirers?
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 4 September 2019 15: 20
        -1
        They ran here over the heading. Initially, they did not have brains by age, but now they have beaten up with the necessary propaganda. Arguing with them is the same as arguing with a cat who slipped into a slipper.
        The level of understanding is the same, and the ways of influencing and educating by the way, too.
        1. Denis Medveezhikoff
          Denis Medveezhikoff 4 September 2019 16: 33
          -2
          Hmm ... that's the only way. And can you? I recently changed my phone. Not used to the keyboard, but not all the words he learned. Well, you can only be an individual
      2. Denis Medveezhikoff
        Denis Medveezhikoff 4 September 2019 16: 28
        -2
        My age is none of your business. Do you agree? Forgive the admirer?
      3. Denis Medveezhikoff
        Denis Medveezhikoff 4 September 2019 16: 41
        0
        If you are talking about Navalny, then he is the same positioner as Zhirinovsky or Zyuganov. Otherwise, they would have been closed long ago, or like Nemtsov.
    2. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 4 September 2019 14: 32
      0
      What did the police do? Dispersed an unauthorized rally? So this is their direct responsibility. Until these urnometateli began to set fire to other people's cars and smash stores. Yes, I don’t argue, the duty is unpleasant, but who needs the same shit to rake. And the ballot box is no longer the Code of Administrative Offenses, it is already the Criminal Code.
      1. Denis Medveezhikoff
        Denis Medveezhikoff 4 September 2019 16: 38
        0
        Where are these burnt cars and smashed shops. Proof of
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 4 September 2019 16: 39
          -2
          So let’s say a big thank you to the Russian Guard for not allowing this. Well done !.
        2. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 4 September 2019 19: 46
          0
          "Burnt" is written after two "gs". "Broken" - in two "n". A question mark is placed after the word "proof". Instead of school for rallies, staggering?
    3. bober1982
      bober1982 4 September 2019 14: 45
      -1
      Quote: Denis Medveezhikoff
      offerОyou ga himСshoot for brooch urnНhuh?

      You better engage in lessons, including the Russian language, and not "revolutionary" activities.
      1. Denis Medveezhikoff
        Denis Medveezhikoff 4 September 2019 16: 35
        -3
        Thank you, you are our genius that enlightened ... What would I do without you. And what I do not do your thing
        1. bober1982
          bober1982 4 September 2019 18: 52
          +2
          How touchy we are! Seniors need to be respected and listen to their advice.
        2. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 5 September 2019 13: 17
          +2
          Quote: Denis Medveezhikoff
          And what I do not do your thing

          Aren't you ashamed of blatant illiteracy? A person who is unable to write two words in a row without spelling mistakes cannot count on the respect of more educated people ...
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    4. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 5 September 2019 17: 46
      -1
      So I think that normal people do not allow such bloodthirstiness in their statements, but here it’s just hysteria. Note that hysteria is only among those who are immensely in love with Putin and Medvedev. What is this talking about? And that they want to hold this power by any means, even such bloodthirstiness.
  41. signifera
    signifera 4 September 2019 14: 31
    +7
    Very interestingly invented. If the authorities do not like the upcoming action, then it prohibits it, all who participate in it are outlawed. And what's the point then in the rallies? All important ones will be banned, only insignificant and useless will be allowed. Again, the work of the authorities is not satisfied, he said about this - repression. And if now these raiders are actually planted, then it is not clear either everyone will be scared, or maybe a mass protest will be launched. And they will no longer throw a ballot box. There are plenty of visual videos from neighboring countries. if you tighten the nut without measure, you can also break the thread, or break the bolt.
  42. DREDD
    DREDD 4 September 2019 14: 45
    +6
    For some reason, I, as an adversary of youth-useless liberal protests, do not like this situation. Here, for example, there is a super peaceful-premium rally, only an extremely massive and protracted one. It can no longer be ignored by the media and Putin’s colonial gang seems that protests can spread to other cities. What to do? Riot police!
    And so, OMON comes and politely asks the crowd to go ̶n̶a̶ ̶p̶a̶r̶a̶s̶h̶u̶ to their homes. The protesters say that the requirements for the authorities have not been met and we will stand still for a while. The riot police, of course, grabbed their batons and began to disperse them. And here it is not clear what the people should do? Scatter home to the tunnels? And Medvedo-Chubaiso-Puty are like this: "Nichosi how easy everything went, it would be necessary to file a bill on serfdom and introduce a tax on air."
    But if the crowd begins to resist, then the punishment for crimes against the government will extend to the whole crowd, including those who threw stones and those who just thought near the cop that the actions of law enforcement officers are illegal).
    It goes without saying that this is not the case, the authorities show that protests are prohibited in the country. By the way, commentators in this thread are jubilant because they punished a simple liberoid and "agent of the State Department." But what if protest moods really ripen in society and people (that is, the commentators of this article) go to protest against the depopulation of the Russian population, for example?
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 4 September 2019 15: 18
      0
      See US news - how Trump's gang reacts to youth-liberal protests.
      Or in ANY other country.
      1. al3x
        al3x 4 September 2019 17: 24
        -1
        How much can you compare us with any other country, and it’s always necessary to put the USA or European countries as an example. Russia can only be compared with some African countries, but certainly not with developed countries. What kind of comparison can we talk about? The people in Russia, and a tenth, cannot afford what is available to the average resident, say, Germany. It seems that in Russia and in Germany there are the same benefits of civilization. But the fact that everyday life is German is a luxury for most Russians. Catch this difference already.
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 4 September 2019 17: 40
          -2
          It is commonplace for a German to save wildly on heating, water and other utilities. Have you come across a German bureaucracy? Then you are lucky.
      2. Sasha ___
        Sasha ___ 4 September 2019 20: 08
        -1
        Come on, tell me how Trump's gang reacts. It’s even interesting to know
    2. 72jora72
      72jora72 5 September 2019 14: 42
      0
      It goes without saying that this is not the case, the authorities show that protests are prohibited in the country. By the way, commentators in this thread are jubilant because they punished a simple liberoid and "agent of the State Department." But what if protest moods really ripen in society and people (that is, the commentators of this article) go to protest against the depopulation of the Russian population, for example?
      In most of the messages, one did not hear overt gloating, and sadness was given little. It is interesting, when at one fine moment they themselves will receive a club (or butt) on the head, what will they sing ??
  43. New Year day
    New Year day 4 September 2019 15: 02
    +8
    The Volodarsky District Court of the Nizhny Novgorod Region found the police officer guilty of torture of the detainee and sentenced him to 3,5 years probation, however, due to the expiration of the statute of limitations, the crime was released from criminal liability.

    The Kirovsky District Court of St. Petersburg gave suspended sentences to three police officers, who, under the threat of torture, forced the detainee to withdraw from the card and give them more than 400 thousand rubles.

    The Kirovsky district court of Kazan issued a suspended sentence to four police officers for torture that led to the death of the detainee.

    In the Trans-Baikal Territory, the court sentenced to 3,5 and 4,5 years of imprisonment conditionally, of the officers who beat an 18-year-old boy and a 19-year-old girl, knocking evidence from them.

    In the Altai Territory, a court found two police officers guilty of abuse of power and torture of a suspect. They received suspended sentences.

    The Nizhny Novgorod police officer who hit the detainee was sentenced to 4 years probation.

    The Almetyevsk City Court sentenced the policeman to 5 years probation for the fact that he applied a stun gun 21 times to a detainee, as a result of which he received numerous injuries.

    The Demsky District Court of Ufa issued a suspended sentence in respect of three criminal investigation officers for torturing a minor.
    And where is this justice and legality? The more power will cover the guardsmen, the stronger will be the hatred of them and someday this will result in more serious things. Yes, and rightly so!
    The authorities are not afraid of bandits in uniform, the dissidents are afraid of her
    1. al3x
      al3x 4 September 2019 17: 13
      +1
      But everything is stable here or do you want it to be like in Ukraine? wassat
      PS this is sarcasm, if anything, but then people are full of stubborn people.
    2. Revival
      Revival 4 September 2019 18: 09
      -1
      Right now, the local will explain to you that it’s necessary and that in vain the police were condemned in vain
    3. 72jora72
      72jora72 5 September 2019 14: 44
      0
      The authorities are not afraid of bandits in uniform, the dissidents are afraid of her
      It’s a pity that not everyone understands this.
  44. Mestny
    Mestny 4 September 2019 15: 16
    -4
    Quote: Beringovsky
    And you, in Tyumen, what’s the matter, where are the rallies in Moscow?
    What does it mean to rake? Is normal democracy a raunch? Well, go to North Korea to live, you will like it there, there is definitely no such obscenity.

    Normal democracy is when all kinds of clowns with their cries and carcasses do not interfere with the rest.
    It is for everyone, democracy, and not just for baby girls.
  45. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 4 September 2019 15: 21
    0
    Everything is correct and according to the law, the main thing now is no suspended sentence and house arrest "from and to"
    Responsibility for assaulting a police officer in case of violence against government officials. Article 318 of the Criminal Code h1 Fines of up to 200 thousand rubles, forced labor or imprisonment for up to 5 years are awarded.
  46. al3x
    al3x 4 September 2019 15: 27
    +2
    In such cases, the law works to its fullest. But when policemen beat detainees in their offices, then they only have a suspended sentence of 4 to 5 years !!! CONDITION Karl !!! Conditionally! I have no words. There is nothing to be surprised, of course, with us both 8 and 10 years can be obtained conditionally. The main thing is that you be your boyfriend. Everything's Alright.
    1. al3x
      al3x 4 September 2019 15: 33
      +3
      The law is the law and throwing bins or raping police in any way is punishable and it should be so. Only here, this law rarely acts on the sheriffs themselves, and if it does, it’s soft power. That's where the injustice is. An army of untouchable warders has been created.
    2. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 5 September 2019 17: 52
      0
      So what do we do? All go to work as policemen?
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  48. Kontrik
    Kontrik 4 September 2019 16: 22
    -3
    asked for five years in prison

    Something is not enough ... And if his urn on the head in response.? I think I would immediately move the horses ... So let him rejoice and sew mittens hehe
    1. al3x
      al3x 4 September 2019 16: 51
      -3
      You, you see, a comrade from the very gendarmerie who is involved in the protection of his unworthy gentlemen, since you write such malicious comments? I read the opinions of similar characters to you, all as one: to wet the reptiles, to crush the riot on the ship, there is nothing to stir up the water, to beat off the kidneys so that it is not inconvenient, to plant all. And where to plant? Prisons burst at the seams from the number of people convicted under article 228, every second there for that reason. Do you think young people are going to sell drugs from a wonderful life? Who brought the country to this? Everyone wants to eat deliciously and live for their pleasure. The central channels are rubbed into us 24 hours a day, that life in Russia is simply amazing and beautiful, and that’s all we have. It’s not like in Ukraine, however. Steep, by the way, excuse: but everything is stable, not like the Ukrainians. And I go out of the entrance and see around the river of alcohol being sold on every corner, drinks, young men drinking and more often women. Does it come from a good life? But because they can’t afford anything else, working hard, like damned. So many find such entertainment for themselves.
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 4 September 2019 17: 38
        +1
        Where is it? They began to drink much less, according to Peter, and in other regions. You just won’t find a drink in the afternoon with fire, everyone closed it, there is no place to drink a glass of beer on the fly - bars and pubs. Young people now generally ferment nekomilfo. Previously, yes - syringes were scattered around every corner. And remember: alcohol is from weakness and licentiousness. And also from inability to occupy oneself. Forced vodka is not poured into the throat.
        1. Snarkxnumx
          Snarkxnumx 4 September 2019 19: 29
          -2
          There are enough drinks. Your eyesight or glasses of the wrong design "I see there I do not see" Are you strict bosses?
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 4 September 2019 19: 37
            +1
            If. Previously, within a radius of half a kilometer there were six of them, where drunks consumed vodka from plastic cups, now there are two civilized bars. And that’s all. Just like that, in the heat, there is nowhere to drink a glass of beer.
        2. Voyager
          Voyager 4 September 2019 23: 41
          +1
          Young people now generally ferment nekomilfo.

          Et you in vain ...

          When I studied at the university, absolutely everyone drank on my course, some more, some less. Everyone smoked except me, I'm the only one who didn't smoke. And about a quarter of the course dabbled in grass on holidays drinking. After quite a few years now, almost every day in the general chat of fellow students, the evening begins with "is there anyone in the center? Let's meet, take a walk and have a drink."
      2. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 4 September 2019 21: 25
        -1
        At one time I watched the "lion against" that there it was often possible to see such youth as alcoholics, parasites, hooligans, mediocre, useless and "always offended" who can only drink and make noise. This is the kind of bio-waste that liberals drag to slaughter for a couple of green papers. These miserable and wild kaldyrs need at least to be properly re-educated so that there is at least a minimum chance of becoming people and taking naught from their parents and locking them up for 5+ years, they are simply dangerous for normal people and for society.
      3. 72jora72
        72jora72 5 September 2019 14: 48
        0
        You, you see, a comrade from the very gendarmerie who is involved in the protection of his unworthy gentlemen, since you write such malicious comments?
        No, Mikhan is just emotionally hurt, worries about Russia.
  49. Tolianych
    Tolianych 4 September 2019 17: 16
    +1
    Riot police are no longer the police, everyone is commenting, but the materiel is not aware
  50. Atenon
    Atenon 4 September 2019 17: 36
    -1
    On the one hand, right, on the other hand, feed him. Plant it and let it pay for itself. It’s good that they plant it, even if it benefits the community at least in the zone, robes for people like him are sewing;)