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Verkhovna Rada adopted a bill depriving deputies of immunity

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The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine today at a parliamentary meeting adopted in final reading a bill to abolish parliamentary immunity. This was reported by Ukrainian media.


Verkhovna Rada adopted a bill depriving deputies of immunity


The Parliament of Ukraine in the second reading adopted a bill depriving deputies of immunity. According to the data provided, the new bill was supported by the 373 parliamentarian with the required minimum of 300 votes. Now the document will be sent for signature to President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky and, if signed by him, will come into effect on January 1 of 2020.

As follows from the new law, the provision that deputies of the Ukrainian parliament cannot be prosecuted, detained or arrested without the consent of the Verkhovna Rada, and also that they are guaranteed parliamentary immunity, are removed from Article 80 of the Constitution of Ukraine.

It is specified that deputies cannot be imprisoned for their statements, nor will they be legally liable for the results of voting or statements in parliament and its bodies. However, in cases of insult or libel, parliamentarians bear full responsibility in accordance with Ukrainian law. Deputies are also brought to criminal or other liability on a general basis when committing criminal or administrative acts prosecuted by law.

Against the background of the adoption of the bill, more than 13 criminal cases were launched with new colors against the former head of state Petro Poroshenko, who led the “European Solidarity” faction in favor of European integration and NATO membership in the “new” Parliament. After the law comes into force, parliamentary immunity will no longer help Petr Alekseevich avoid punishment, especially since Ukraine announced the institution of several more criminal cases against him.

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  1. mark_rod
    mark_rod 3 September 2019 12: 42
    +44
    It’s a pity in Russia you won’t get such a law ... (((
    1. WILL
      WILL 3 September 2019 12: 55
      +28
      Really sorry! sad Moreover, the Rada is a unicameral parliament ... We have a bicameral parliament, and we also have a Council of Federations, which is generally not clear by what principle is being formed. The same Arashukov was a Senator. am
      And Narusova is still sitting belay
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 3 September 2019 13: 08
        +18
        Quote: ANIMAL
        it is not clear by what principle is formed. The same Arashukov was a Senator.

        The principle is simple, they send them there for a "well-deserved" pension .. or attach them for "merits" And there is a lot of money for free and connections can be expanded ..
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 4 September 2019 14: 11
          +1
          After the law comes into force, parliamentary immunity will no longer help Pyotr Alekseevich avoid punishment

          Oops ... But one of the pillars of European lawmaking is "the law has no retroactive effect." So, for example, in France counterfeiters were caught, those nickel coins were stamped. And I had to let go - the law prohibited to independently produce "gold, platinum, silver, copper and bronze coins." There was no nickel. So the counterfeiters were released, and the law was supplemented.
          laughing
          But damn, now the phrase "you want it to be like in Ukraine" began to play with new colors ...
      2. RUSS
        RUSS 3 September 2019 14: 59
        +8
        Quote: ANIMAL
        Really sorry! sad Moreover, the Rada is a unicameral parliament ... We have a bicameral parliament, and we also have a Council of Federations, which is generally not clear by what principle is being formed. The same Arashukov was a Senator. am
        And Narusova is still sitting belay

        The Federation Council is an honorary pension, or rather a warm place for those who are not better settled in power
    2. 210ox
      210ox 3 September 2019 12: 59
      +3
      Peter's view is not a fountain. I thought about it ... Sushi crackers .. And about ours ... Well, maybe they ate something ... Prove that there is nothing to be afraid of the chosen one. But no, you need to protect yourself ... You never know what ..
      1. vladcub
        vladcub 3 September 2019 13: 47
        +1
        Petya's appearance is not a fountain "what else will he have? Sits and Zelinsky swears in his mind. In any case, he has something to think about worrying about
        1. AVA77
          AVA77 3 September 2019 14: 03
          +3
          Pete doesn’t care. If anything, Petya will simply dump. But Zelensky will receive absolute power.
          1. your1970
            your1970 3 September 2019 19: 12
            +2
            Quote: AVA77
            Pete doesn’t care. If anything, Petya will simply dump. But Zelensky will receive absolute power.

            - damn well, at least someone understood - what exactly Zelensky created by this maneuver
            1. AVA77
              AVA77 3 September 2019 19: 41
              0
              Yes, in fact, many understood. wink
    3. The comment was deleted.
    4. WIKI
      WIKI 3 September 2019 13: 03
      +22
      In Russia, the law is that drawbar. Let us turn to a fresh example. Shipulin, having accounts and shares in a German bank, continues to be a candidate from EP. I remember Grudinin for imaginary accounts, who just did not bow. Even Putin had a ride. EP believes that if THEIR person has repented, then the law no longer applies:
      1. Phil77
        Phil77 3 September 2019 13: 10
        -1
        And let's call it conditionally * our *? And, bingo !!!!,
      2. New Year day
        New Year day 3 September 2019 21: 15
        +3
        Quote: WIKI
        Let us turn to a fresh example. Shipulin, having accounts and shares in a German bank

        that is why Klishas said that such a law in Russia poses a threat to parliamentarism, since they will not be able to work ... for themselves, obviously.
    5. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 3 September 2019 13: 20
      +8
      Quote: mark_rod
      It’s a pity you can’t wait for such a law in Russia

      Bees against honey, or what? Not in our lifetime. No, well, our deputies will be smarter than Ukrainian ones. They sit quietly for themselves and, without shaking the foundations of society, are working on the most pressing bills for the country. Type of school holidays until October to extend, tinting auto glass cancel - this is where there is room for battle! Well, what about these with their deprivation of immunity? Well, they transplant an old herd. And then, when they themselves are completely dirty in political substance? Again, you have to decide something with integrity.
    6. your1970
      your1970 3 September 2019 13: 24
      -1
      And you do not understand, what is it for .....
      Naive !!!
      This is a forged hook under the rib ANYONE to a deputy, regardless of his party affiliation and opposition. Now Zelensky will have the opportunity to put ANY deputy. That is. from that moment on, his power intensified many times. In fact, he more part of the power itself cleaned ....
      Is this good or bad? In my opinion, this is bad. This transfers maximum power in one hand.
      And oh, it’s not a fact - that these hands will be clean .... and even more so not a fact - that this will be to the country's advantage ..

      All of the above applies to us.
      1. Campanella
        Campanella 3 September 2019 13: 59
        +11
        Well, bad, but what's good?
        Independent, non-judicial, eternal deputies? Sometimes with a very dubious reputation.
      2. wlkw
        wlkw 3 September 2019 16: 06
        +4
        You see, this is a double-edged sword. On the one hand, you can put anyone. On the other hand, if both in our country and in deputies they are eager for what would not be put.
        What's better???
        On the one hand ("there") there will be an obedient Rada, and on the other hand, in our Duma there are no less obedient deputies, but some of them should "sit" in another place. This happens, but rarely, if only he has completely lost his scent.
        In general, that there is garbage, that here. But their option seems more honest and socially fair.
      3. major147
        major147 3 September 2019 16: 45
        0
        Quote: your1970
        This is a forged hook under the rib for ANY deputy, regardless of his party affiliation or opposition.

        It is specified that deputies cannot be imprisoned for their statements, nor will they be legally liable for the results of voting or statements in parliament and its bodies. However, in cases of insult or libel, parliamentarians bear full responsibility in accordance with Ukrainian law.

        Who will decide what is "just statements" and what is "insults and slander", he will lead the parliament.
        1. your1970
          your1970 3 September 2019 19: 14
          +1
          Quote: major147
          Quote: your1970
          This is a forged hook under the rib for ANY deputy, regardless of his party affiliation or opposition.

          It is specified that deputies cannot be imprisoned for their statements, nor will they be legally liable for the results of voting or statements in parliament and its bodies. However, in cases of insult or libel, parliamentarians bear full responsibility in accordance with Ukrainian law.

          Who will decide what is "just statements" and what is "insults and slander", he will lead the parliament.
          -that is !!!! everything is beautiful and elegant ....
    7. Campanella
      Campanella 3 September 2019 13: 56
      +7
      Our most likely to save everyone but ourselves.
      Against the background of Ukraine, we will soon look like bantustan.
    8. NEOZ
      NEOZ 3 September 2019 15: 04
      -5
      Quote: mark_rod
      It’s a pity in Russia you won’t get such a law ... (((

      people's deputy on the bunk? because of some PPesnik who threw coke into the car?
      1. 210ox
        210ox 3 September 2019 18: 17
        0
        Lavrenty! Palych ... is it you! You also have experience .. So that PPSnik and others like them would forget about "throwing" and "coke" ... fellow hi
    9. den3080
      den3080 3 September 2019 15: 31
      +3
      For some reason, in all articles and on TV statements filed against Poroshenko are called criminal cases.
      And very few explain that these are by no means criminal cases, but merely statements against which verification is carried out.
      Why are they telling a lie?
  2. Svarog
    Svarog 3 September 2019 12: 43
    +16
    In addition, they will soon plan to reduce the number of deputies strongly .. which would also be good for us to do .. Where do we have 450 deputies? Of which 0 is useful, all the same, everyone accepts what they say ... For approvers and 40 it will be enough ..
    1. Loess
      Loess 3 September 2019 12: 57
      -7
      Quote: Svarog
      all the same, everyone accepts what they say

      Just like with the Union, right?
      PS Anyway, it's better than when any law was adopted only under the threat of dissolving the Duma under Boris ... Or after a massacre ... The only exceptions were laws on improving the welfare of "people's representatives". As for the number of these chosen ones, it is not a matter of quantity, but of quality.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 3 September 2019 13: 05
        +11
        Quote: Less
        Just like with the Union, right?

        I also did not like this moment during the Union ..
        Quote: Less
        As for the number of these chosen ones, it’s not the quantity, but the quality

        I agree. In general, the Federation Council is to dissolve and instead of it make scientific advice, which would include scientists from all areas and would be engaged in generating ideas for development and would consider the laws that the deputies adopted from the point of view of adequacy ..
        And the deputies are greatly reduced, to a maximum of one from the federal district .....
        1. Loess
          Loess 3 September 2019 13: 15
          +4
          Quote: Svarog
          Generally SF-dissolve and in its place

          You can start by banning all kinds of "art workers" from being elected. In the State Duma including. Because a well-known person is chosen, and the more famous this person is, the more familiar she is to a more luxurious life. How can such people know what is needed for ordinary citizens ... They do not stand in lines at clinics for registration plates, they do not get to work and to their relatives by public transport, they do not need to think about how to arrange a child in kindergarten and get them to school ... And we also need to get rid of "professional deputies" Like Zyuganov and Zhirinovsky. For, as they say, "they are terribly far from the people."
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 3 September 2019 13: 23
            +4
            Quote: Less
            Quote: Svarog
            Generally SF-dissolve and in its place

            You can start by banning all kinds of "art workers" from being elected. In the State Duma including. Because a well-known person is chosen, and the more famous this person is, the more familiar she is to a more luxurious life. How can such people know what is needed for ordinary citizens ... They do not stand in lines at clinics for registration plates, they do not get to work and to their relatives by public transport, they do not need to think about how to arrange a child in kindergarten and get them to school ... And we also need to get rid of "professional deputies" Like Zyuganov and Zhirinovsky. For, as they say, "they are terribly far from the people."

            Undoubtedly .. I especially agree that everyone in the Duma is now far from the people. Indeed, certain criteria are needed for those who are in thought. But the system itself needs to be changed both quantitatively and qualitatively.
        2. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 3 September 2019 13: 37
          +3
          Quote: Svarog
          In general, the Federation Council-to dissolve and in its place to make scientific advice

          good
          Better - Public Council. Let there be people of different education and social status. And they will put experiments on the people, like Pavlov on dogs ... laughing
          I am a supporter of the election to the Duma, which adopts laws, one representative from each region. So that in one place it does not swell, and in another it does not lose weight.
          And in the Public Council, engaged in the generation of ideas, one representative from one million (500) citizens. At the same time, they will know on the spot whom to send there, for mediocre type (I will refrain) there is no place.
          hi
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 3 September 2019 13: 43
            +1
            Quote: ROSS 42
            Better - Public Council. Let there be people of different education and social status. And they will put experiments on the people, like Pavlov on dogs ...

            Here's a thought you need to call a public council! An excellent name, otherwise you will now look at the intelligence of many "Duma members" .. laughing
            Nevertheless, a body consisting of pundits would also not hurt .. They would evaluate laws and initiatives for adequacy and consequences and they should have education otherwise it would turn out to be a booth ..
            Truth is born in discussion! hi
            1. Eugenalt
              Eugenalt 3 September 2019 14: 12
              -1
              That is, do you think that the researchers (remember that the epithet "scientist" is applicable only to a cat that ... in a chain ... all around) is interested in such nonsense? And what about your own scientific topics, work, research and development, students on the side? Understand correctly to a person of science, absolutely similar problems are not interesting, and in the process of scientific research you forget to eat and sleep. And a researcher in this state is even farther from the problems of others than anyone else. And here you are ... evaluate political nonsense ... PS Well, of course, there will be those who will not refuse to evaluate - only they will have nothing to do with science, frankly speaking, just burnt out functionaries and administrators. They appreciate it, yes.
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 3 September 2019 14: 17
                -1
                Quote: Eugenalt
                Well, of course there are those who will not refuse to evaluate - that's just they will have nothing to do with science directly - just burnt out functionaries and administrators. They overestimate, yes.

                This work should not be their main focus. This work is public. In your view, a man from science is completely absorbed in solving his narrow task? Perhaps there are some, but the leaders of scientific organizations, as a rule, have both time and knowledge to solve the above problems.
                1. Eugenalt
                  Eugenalt 3 September 2019 16: 45
                  +1
                  Oh well. Here's a wonderful character, albeit fictional. Bulgakov "Heart of a Dog" Professor Preobrazhensky. And so, my friend, you, a sort of Shvonder with a group of comrades, forgive him, politely ask on a voluntary basis to take part in the assessment of the decisions of the local committee. Do you understand the thought? First, you will be sent exceptionally intelligently to ... well, to put on galoshes there. Not the right level for communication. Second, the files of your local committee, the State Duma, parliament, society will be sent there. Because science is immortal, and all this from his point of view does not matter.
    2. Campanella
      Campanella 3 September 2019 14: 00
      0
      That's for sure ! One faithful is enough, but how can one save a face in front of Western colleagues?
      Therefore, we have a "Potemkin" thought ... it seems to be there, but in fact there is one, but the right voice.
  3. Nycomed
    Nycomed 3 September 2019 12: 47
    +5
    Absolutely correct bill! It's time to bring the "untouchable" caste to life. It would be nice for us too, but I'm already carried away ... sad
  4. Phil77
    Phil77 3 September 2019 12: 53
    0
    Yes! And it wouldn’t hurt with us! When? Well, it won’t be with us! (Optimist + pessimist, it's really worth looking at life, and those who are up there!).
  5. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 3 September 2019 12: 55
    0
    It will be interesting to observe the results of this experiment. But this is garbage compared to the beginning of the movement to lift the ban on the free sale of land - there is already an order to prepare a bill before December 1.
    1. Campanella
      Campanella 3 September 2019 14: 10
      0
      Here Green is hot, but he has nowhere to go. Do we have land for sale? Except non residents.
  6. Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 3 September 2019 12: 58
    +16
    And we would like that

  7. Maverick78
    Maverick78 3 September 2019 13: 06
    -2
    Everything is very simple. Nothing depends on these already ... they are nobody (as they were told), respectively, they will work for the force behind them and without different guarantees. When this force is inside the state, it’s not bad. When outside is a scribe.
    1. Maalkavianin
      Maalkavianin 3 September 2019 13: 09
      0
      Exactly. I wanted to write the same thing. With tongue removed.
    2. your1970
      your1970 3 September 2019 18: 58
      -1
      Quote: Maverick78
      Everything is very simple. Nothing depends on these already ... they are nobody (as they were told), respectively, they will work for the force behind them and without different guarantees. When this force is inside the state, it’s not bad. When outside is a scribe.
      Well, at least one understood ...
  8. prior
    prior 3 September 2019 13: 09
    0
    "Well, sho son, did your Poles help you ?!"
    How now will not help ukrodeputatami the former inviolability of the face.
  9. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
    SERGEY SERGEEVICS 3 September 2019 13: 10
    0
    Verkhovna Rada adopted a bill depriving deputies of immunity

    Legally, the project is really good promote! Maybe finally, Petyunya will get his.
  10. Rwmos
    Rwmos 3 September 2019 13: 16
    -2
    Do not risk anything. Do not touch it gomno - it does not smell.
    But seriously - it’s precisely that they do not risk anything. If you really need to - then there byrenko who you need to quietly just bang. And in the remaining cases - how many cases are there in Pets? How then did he get to Rada at all? Kolomoisky seems not to be a deputy, and again articles like a dog's fleas - is he even in the bullpen?
  11. New Year day
    New Year day 3 September 2019 13: 20
    +11
    and who will now say, "you want it like in Ukraine?"
    1. Campanella
      Campanella 3 September 2019 14: 40
      0
      They will say, they will start to flirt and put a shadow on the fence. Although we also began to sculpt dissenting terms "for a spikelet" as they say. It is understandable, the protection of the existing system, but on the other hand, when officials allow themselves to unreasonably insult and humiliate the people, they are only fired, and even then not always.
    2. viktordark
      viktordark 3 September 2019 15: 10
      0
      I will say - "you want it like in Ukraine?"
    3. Dym71
      Dym71 3 September 2019 15: 44
      0
      Quote: Silvestr
      and who will now say, "you want it like in Ukraine?"

      Yes, anyone, because in the presence of a frightened (outrageous pocket natschushera) judicial authority (here we do not forget that the appointment of judges is made by the President of Ukraine on the basis of a proposal from the High Council of Justice), removing immunity from representatives of the legislative branch (by the way, directly elected by the people of Ukraine!) to laugh!
      And if you go to its logical conclusion and consider this as the achievement of the revolution of hydanny, as a visa-free and tomos wassat , then this is complete absurdity!
      1. your1970
        your1970 3 September 2019 19: 02
        0
        Quote: Dym71
        Yes, anyone, because in the presence of an intimidated (outrageous pocket natschushera) judicial authority (here we do not forget that the appointment of judges is made by the President of Ukraine on the basis of a proposal from the High Council of Justice), the removal of immunity from representatives of the legislative branch (by the way, directly elected by the people of Ukraine!) this is chickens laughing!
        -I will say more is a coup and seizure of power in one hand...
        And if Zelensky invented and implemented it personally - then he will go very far and do a lot. It may well be that we will recall Poroshenko - as something small and frivolous against Zelensky’s background ......
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 3 September 2019 19: 23
          +2
          Quote: your1970
          I will say more is a coup and seizure of power in one hand ....

          do we really have a separation of powers? We also have power in the same hands and we evaluate its effectiveness ourselves
          1. your1970
            your1970 3 September 2019 20: 36
            +1
            Quote: Silvestr
            Quote: your1970
            I will say more is a coup and seizure of power in one hand ....

            do we really have a separation of powers? We also have power in the same hands and we evaluate its effectiveness ourselves
            - watch your hands carefully:
            Tomorrow ANY their DISOBEDIENT the deputy says "Zelensky is a goat!"
            And further:
            "However, in cases insults or slander parliamentarians bear full responsibility in accordance with Ukrainian law. "- and the court's decision on libel against the President of Ukraine ....
            Planting is not good, but DISOBEDIENT will automatically fly out of BP .... Criminal record ... Moreover independently from the will of the people who chose him ...
            About criminal cases in general, silent, there they all can be imprisoned if they wish, anyone has sins ..
            Forged hook under the rib - which you can’t get off .....
            This is the dream of any (even the smallest) dictator ...

            ZY, in general, I ride with laughter while reading the comments to the article - ardent opponents belay (!!!!!) Putin demand add power (!!!!!!) To Putin by removing the immunity from deputies or even reducing them altogether .... The gap in the pattern is visible among people ...

            Even if our GD is not too toothy, this is a counterweight to autocracy
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 3 September 2019 21: 14
              0
              Quote: your1970
              Even if our GD is not too toothy, this is a counterweight to autocracy

              Are you seriously? Aquarium fish vs breadwinner?
              1. your1970
                your1970 3 September 2019 21: 39
                0
                Quote: Silvestr
                Aquarium fish vs breadwinner?
                - recourse sometimes it happens, I once refused to have guppies. Everyone died in a week, and the other fish sitting in the same place lived quietly .... I still don’t know what it was ... not a disease for sure ...

                Seriously, if you think that he manages to control and hold everything in the country in his fist, what kind of protest can there be then?
                however, even here, quite sharp thoughts are expressed on the site, rallies happen, pickets, etc.
                And I don’t observe something that the oppositionists received at least 10 years in prison. Both the tsar and the USSR did not trifle like that - give revolutionaries 15 days
                1. New Year day
                  New Year day 3 September 2019 21: 43
                  +1
                  Quote: your1970
                  if you think that he manages to control and hold everything in the country in his fist

                  now - no longer, poorly controlled. But the question is, why force only the rightful persons into the governors? Example with elections to the Far East. What they didn’t do, and they transferred the capital of the Far East and everything under one person. With regards to the State Duma, that is, the person who controls Volodin. After all, the laws adopted by the State Duma are thrust through the AP and He signs them.
                  So he does not control everything himself, but his people. for this "vertical" was created
                  Quote: your1970
                  who received at least 10 years in prison among the opposition.

                  what is the opposition? BUT to the rostrum, microphone and screen still does not allow
                  1. your1970
                    your1970 4 September 2019 00: 22
                    0
                    Quote: Silvestr

                    Quote: your1970
                    who received at least 10 years in prison among the opposition.

                    what is the opposition? BUT until tribune, microphone and screen still does not allow
                    - ie "Echo ..", "Dozhd", "RBK", "Vedomosti", "Kommersant" probably closed - and the chief editors were given 10 years without the right to correspond?
                    Probably just a spell was imposed on "YouTube" - like "You are unclean!"
                    What else microphone and screen need ????
                    "YouTube" views - no Soviet newspaper could even think of such circulations
                    I am generally silent about the "hundred-grams" and "sweaters" ..... there are all oppositionists ....
        2. Maverick78
          Maverick78 4 September 2019 17: 05
          0
          Personally Zelensky is not even funny. If purely hypothetical to assume that this is so - it would have already banged. There are more than enough people capable of doing this in Ukraine.
          1. your1970
            your1970 4 September 2019 17: 30
            +1
            Quote: Maverick78
            he would have already been banged. There are more than enough people capable of doing this in Ukraine.
            - nevertheless, under the guise of "popular aspirations" Zelensky carried out an operation to concentrate power in Of their hands (even if someone else drives them) .....
            A simple thing to bang - there Sashko Bily was a tough kid, he opened the door with his foot - and then he took it and killed himself with two shots to the head. The only question was - who needed it ...?
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 4 September 2019 20: 07
              +2
              Quote: your1970
              Sasha Bily was a tough kid, he opened the door with his foot, and then he took it and killed himself with two shots to the head.

              case in point. And also the Minister of Internal Affairs shot himself with two shots to the head, it happens laughing
  12. K-50
    K-50 3 September 2019 13: 20
    +3
    We also need to be removed from ours, snickering, sir. sad
  13. rocket757
    rocket757 3 September 2019 13: 37
    +1
    But this is beautiful and instructive!
    how it will be implemented in real life, this is the case .... let's see!
  14. Aliken
    Aliken 3 September 2019 13: 39
    +6
    Here are well done Ukrainians.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 3 September 2019 19: 26
      +3
      Quote: Aliken
      Here are well done Ukrainians.

      maybe that's why they "sand" Ukraine 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, so that we don't think so? Otherwise, we ourselves want to report to the authorities, but they, the authorities, do not want to report to anyone.
      1. Maverick78
        Maverick78 4 September 2019 16: 41
        0
        Infantility touches. Come to Ukraine. Here is paradise. See how the government will report to you)
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 4 September 2019 20: 05
          +2
          Quote: Maverick78
          Infantility touches.

          Fanaberia annoys when they say "black" to "white"
  15. askort154
    askort154 3 September 2019 14: 05
    +1
    The highest title for the "elite", not millions earned from overwork, but the status of "untouchable". This was significant in the Russian Federation in the 90s. Performers in the lower chamber, their retired "roof" to the top
  16. Piramidon
    Piramidon 3 September 2019 14: 09
    +3
    With all my dislike for the Verkhovna Rada, in this case, I would shake their hand.
  17. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 3 September 2019 14: 18
    -1
    Something in Pedro's photo physiognomy on treason))
    Afraid of being dispossessed))
    1. askort154
      askort154 3 September 2019 15: 15
      -1
      Sith Lord
      Something in Pedro's photo physiognomy on treason))
      Afraid of being dispossessed))


      The owner will not give offense. He served him well:
      Ukraine was completely torn off from Russia (which its predecessors did not do).
      - organized a coup (for 5 billion. USA)
      - organized a long-running military conflict on the border with Russia.
      - severed all ties with Russia - military-industrial complex, economic and cultural
      - banned the Russian language, revived nationalism.
      - split the Orthodox faith.
      - changed the whole history of educating new generations, making Russia the main
      the culprit of all the problems of Ukraine - "aggressor number 1".
      Poroshenko became the performer of a long-standing US program (Brzezinski) -
      tear Ukraine away from Russia. Poroshenko did it better than Kravchuk, Kuchma and
      Yushchenko put together. The CIA of the USA, will wave the Poroshenko flag for a long time,
      as well as the "Saakashvili flag" at the right time for them. Spare "villas", he does not have only one, but he does not even try to escape - the owner did not give the go-ahead, waiting for their new green protégé to take root. hi
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 3 September 2019 17: 01
        0
        Alexander hi

        In general, it is so, but Poroshenko is on the hook, and he will never wash off his actions.

        The smallest rascal, he will be handed over with giblets.
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    1. Kronos
      Kronos 3 September 2019 15: 33
      +1
      That's just where the deputies who violated the law are quickly tried, unlike us
      1. viktordark
        viktordark 3 September 2019 15: 43
        0
        yes here are you right
      2. Maverick78
        Maverick78 4 September 2019 16: 43
        0
        Examples? I live here and I don’t remember the successful trials of deputies.
    2. Karaul14
      Karaul14 3 September 2019 16: 26
      +4
      There is no complete inviolability in most Western countries, either for administrative matters or for the duration of the parliamentary session, there is almost no such complete and for the whole term, and even more so, this snout will not fly drunk on a Mercedes and poke its xivas to the police.
  19. Ros 56
    Ros 56 3 September 2019 16: 26
    0
    Here is the Giblets and other banderlogs sadness, at any moment can link flippers.
  20. exo
    exo 3 September 2019 17: 04
    +2
    A great example to follow. I hope to live up to such a law and we have
  21. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 3 September 2019 17: 29
    0
    It would be good for us to adopt such a law. But, unfortunately, I recall Nekrasov:
    "It's a pity - to live in this wonderful time
    I won't have to - neither me nor you. "©
  22. Mic1969
    Mic1969 3 September 2019 18: 31
    0
  23. capsid
    capsid 3 September 2019 19: 46
    +2
    Something Putinists are not visible.
  24. APASUS
    APASUS 3 September 2019 20: 03
    +1
    Yes. In vain Petya came to Rada, now it makes no sense to be elected
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 3 September 2019 21: 16
      0
      Quote: APASUS
      Yes. In vain Petya came to Rada, now it makes no sense to be elected

      that's for sure, the bummer came out
  25. Antares
    Antares 3 September 2019 22: 02
    0
    It’s interesting only one thing, many balatians about it, but they didn’t do all the years after 2014.
    Now it’s been a couple of days. What prevented Poroshenko from BPP to do the same ..
    Moreover, judging by the vote of the EU (European solidarity-party Poroshenko) together voted for the law with the Servant of the people (Zelensky party) for this law! And the pro-Russian Medvechuk with Rabinovich did not vote for him at all! (Although what pro-Russian they are ... they exploit the image)
    But this is not the victory that is expected from Zelensky ... so small and easy battle.
    1. Maverick78
      Maverick78 4 September 2019 16: 49
      0
      The reason I indicated above. Those teams were glad mainly consisted of people who could decide something on their own (in whose favor - a separate issue), so they defended themselves. Now the basis in the parliament is nobody and nothing. So now the main thing is who is behind them.