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Turkey announced the possibility of a new purchase of C-400

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The Turkish leadership announced the possibility of purchasing an additional batch of Russian C-400 anti-aircraft missile systems. The final decision on this subject depends on the position of the United States: do they intend to further limit partnerships with Ankara.




This position was publicly voiced by the country's Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu at the site of the international strategic forum in Bled (Slovenia).

Today we need more systems [SAM] until we can produce our own. And if we can get them from the United States, we will buy the Patriots. If not, we will purchase more C-400. We are an independent country

- said the senior official.

At the same time, he pointed out that the issue of acquiring Russian Su-57 and Su-35 fighters is not discussed:

Not. Now we are entering the F-35 program


Chavushoglu severely criticized the attitude of Western countries towards the rapprochement of Ankara and Moscow. According to him, after the destruction of Su-24, "our friends from NATO" recommended establishing a dialogue with the Kremlin. Subsequently, when accusations fell due to intensified contacts with the Russian Federation, he recalled this. However, alliance colleagues only laughed in response.
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  1. Ka-52
    Ka-52 3 September 2019 05: 20
    +5
    At the same time, he pointed out that the issue of acquiring Russian Su-57 and Su-35 fighters is not discussed:

    Not. Now we are entering the F-35 program

    Thank God, otherwise this stupid flood on the sale of the Su-57/35 to the Turks was quite tired
    1. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 3 September 2019 06: 57
      +2
      Quote: Ka-52
      Thank God, otherwise this stupid flood on the sale of the Su-57/35 to the Turks was quite tired

      I'm afraid that everything is just beginning. And the Turkish "daisy" with the purchase of the SU-35/57 will also get bored with us.
      1. Siberia 75
        Siberia 75 3 September 2019 07: 48
        +2
        Quote: Polite Elk
        And the Turkish "daisy" with the purchase of the SU-35/57 will also get bored with us.

        Russia is accustomed to such behavior, but the fact that the Turks are actually blackmailing the United States makes it very annoying to striped.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 3 September 2019 07: 51
          +1
          Quote: Siberia 75
          striped it is very annoying.

          What really warms my soul
        2. Voyager
          Voyager 3 September 2019 08: 15
          +1
          How to say. Blackmail began and continues with the Americans F-35. But the Turks slowed down: they started talking about patriot again. Americans on the eve of the sale of C-400 and so offered the Turks to buy the same patriot, they say, take it, but just not Russian. How will it turn now?
          1. Siberia 75
            Siberia 75 3 September 2019 08: 24
            +1
            Quote: Voyager
            Blackmail began and continues the Americans

            Americans are used to setting the conditions and blackmailing them, and the whole world must obey. And when other countries, be it Turkey or Russia or some other country, begin to defend their interests, spitting on US Wishlist, they are surprised, indignant, upset. But they can come up with nothing but mutually unprofitable sanctions.
            1. Voyager
              Voyager 3 September 2019 10: 36
              0
              Quote: Siberia 75
              But they can come up with nothing but mutually unprofitable sanctions.

              They can afford it. Sad but true.
          2. bayard
            bayard 4 September 2019 00: 02
            +1
            Quote: Voyager
            . But the Turks slowed down the degree: they again spoke of patriot

            This trolling is modern Turkish fun. In relation to the USA.
            Actually on the verge of glum.
            All the pots should be beaten by the USA themselves, introducing a good bit of fun in the divorce process in the NATO harem.
  2. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 3 September 2019 05: 25
    +3
    Turks are such Turks ... Bazaar, let's just say ... What do they want? Airplanes are too difficult for them. Again, "fall in love" with the United States - then wait, Erdogan, a surprise. It hurts you are obstinate. No matter how you choke on a cherry bone ... the CIA is a master at such nishtyaks ...
    1. Ilya-spb
      Ilya-spb 3 September 2019 07: 00
      +2
      If a diplomat says no, does that mean yes?

      The arms trade loves silence and is inextricably linked to politics.

      I’ll venture to give a forecast: the Americans will not sell the F-35. The reason is - what if the Turks will let us see our plane. For loans.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 3 September 2019 07: 52
        0
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        . For loans.

        Well, or what kind of weapon
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 3 September 2019 06: 30
    +3
    The United States is putting pressure on Turkey, which is trying to blackmail the Americans. The "allies" in the NATO bloc are having fun.
    “Our friends from NATO” recommended establishing a dialogue with the Kremlin.
    It is clear that the Americans were not eager at that time to get involved in a possible armed conflict with Russia over Turkey, and therefore gave advice to the Turks on the principle of saving the drowning - the work of the drowning themselves. They simply could not imagine that the relationship was really normalizing. And now they are ringing the bells, but Erdogan also got into a pose.
  4. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 3 September 2019 06: 34
    +1
    However, alliance colleagues only laughed in response.

    He laughs best who laughs last.
  5. Ros 56
    Ros 56 3 September 2019 07: 03
    0
    I hope they are not going to buy our loans.
  6. mark1
    mark1 3 September 2019 07: 06
    0
    How are they going to buy? Again on credit, or did the Americans hint that they would throw some money on the "holy" cause?
  7. armata_armata
    armata_armata 3 September 2019 07: 10
    -2

    At the same time, he pointed out that the issue of acquiring Russian Su-57 and Su-35 fighters is not discussed

    Well, yes, Erdogan so simply asked Putin about it and looked at the plane, most likely they will buy a batch of 10 pieces 57, and there the relationship will sharply warm with the USA and already the F-35s will
    1. ROSS_51
      ROSS_51 3 September 2019 07: 43
      -1
      Yes, these are just political curtsies. You can’t buy 10 Su-57s unless you are in China and buy to copy.
      1. armata_armata
        armata_armata 3 September 2019 07: 47
        -1
        Yes, these are just political curtsies. You can’t buy 10 Su-57s if you’re not China and buy to copy

        Why not, the chief has already confirmed that you can buy as much as Turkey wants and will acquire
        It is also not necessary to copy, just study and create an effective counteraction system
        1. ROSS_51
          ROSS_51 3 September 2019 10: 45
          0
          Not a little expensive to study? For the Su-35 ours put up a price tag to the Indians 75 million euros. Pay a billion for 10 Su-57, just to study? Erdogan will be asked to resign tomorrow.
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 3 September 2019 07: 54
      0
      Quote: armata_armata
      and then sharply with the United States the relationship will warm and F-35 will be

      Well, why do they need this smut?
      The sense of such a party militarily zero
      1. armata_armata
        armata_armata 3 September 2019 07: 59
        -2
        Well, why do they need this smut?
        The sense of such a party militarily zero

        Well, right, why the US needs the latest aircraft of the Russian Federation, and the USSR was not needed, not for nothing that they hijacked the instant-25)
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 3 September 2019 08: 04
          -1
          Quote: armata_armata
          Well, right, why did the USA need the latest aircraft of the Russian Federation and the USSR was not needed, not for nothing that they hijacked the instant-25)

          Firstly, they did not steal. He stole a precursor. They had nothing to do with this hijacking
          Secondly, why 10 if enough and a maximum of two.?
          And thirdly, with what fright did you get that the aircraft was intended for sale will be stuffed with secret equipment?
          1. armata_armata
            armata_armata 3 September 2019 08: 11
            -1
            Firstly, they did not steal. He stole a precursor. They had nothing to do with this hijacking
            Secondly, why 10 if enough and a maximum of two.?
            And thirdly, from what fright did you get that the aircraft intended for sale would be stuffed with secret equipment?

            Yes, they did not contact him and did not cook, he himself knew that there was enough fuel, the whole arrangement of the airfields in Japan. Yes, and in Japan itself, the gullible military is some sort of combat aircraft from the USSR, it is already entering the airspace, of course, why bring down such a miracle, we are preparing an airfield
            Secondly, I agree, and two will be enough, but of course it will be better with 10, you can do a training squadron, and not repaint f-16 under su-57
            Since they wrote more than once that in E the version differs from the usual one, only in the absence of a friend-or-foe module (which the customer inserts), and modified weapons suspension units (again, at the customer’s choice) ... So, if the Su-57 was originally if there’s nothing secret, it’s possible to undermine with a clear conscience, in other cases all that is on it will go to the E version
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 3 September 2019 08: 19
              -2
              Quote: armata_armata
              Since they wrote more than once that in E the version differs from the usual one, only in the absence of a friend-or-foe module (which the customer inserts), and modified weapons suspension units (again, at the customer’s choice)

              This was told to us. Little bit. That we can understand. And how many did not say you can assume?
              Really our people who are engaged in this do not provide the option of falling into the wrong hands? What will they sell something secret? Yes, they checked Tim 100500 times, double-checked and provided for everything
              1. armata_armata
                armata_armata 3 September 2019 08: 26
                -2
                Really our people who are engaged in this do not provide the option of falling into the wrong hands? What will they sell something secret?

                I don’t believe in your people, that’s the problem, that the new guard with all its relatives and accounts in Europe, that the old one, like Chubais, who in the 90s traded secret technologies without problems only on the way ...
                Yes, they checked Tim 100500 times, double-checked and provided for everything

                I believe in this, they have a plan for any development of the situation, so they won’t be in a stalemate
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 3 September 2019 08: 34
                  -2
                  Quote: armata_armata
                  I don’t believe in your people

                  Where is yours?
                  that an old type of Chubais which in the 90s, without any problems, secret technologies traded only on the road ...

                  Well, since you are stuck in the 90s, I have nothing to speak with you.
                  And yet, it’s not necessary to consider everyone as corrupt. There are a lot of honest people, and they also developed rockets and planes, and other weapons intended for export are also honest people. And they certainly couldn’t stick anything secret there.
                  But if Putin wanted to "sell" for a puddle, no one would even know about it in 100 years.
                  1. armata_armata
                    armata_armata 3 September 2019 08: 42
                    0
                    Where is yours?

                    But my people are not in power, neither a liberal nor a democrat (or how is it called today?)
                    Well, since you are stuck in the 90s, I have nothing to talk to you

                    You can not say, I do not insist)
                    And yet, it’s not necessary to consider everyone as corrupt. There are a lot of honest people and they developed rockets and planes and other weapons.

                    Claims to those who are developing not what they are, they do what they order and make effective weapons at the lowest cost
                    And they certainly couldn’t stick anything secret there.

                    The export version is not developed as a separate aircraft, the export version is only an adaptation of the usual one to the conditions and the customer’s desire, so that the blocks are the same and if they stuck on the usual one it will remain (although I repeat)
                    But if Putin wanted to "sell" for a puddle, no one would even know about it in 100 years.

                    And what difference would know or not, why all the secrecy?
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 3 September 2019 07: 15
    0
    It’s clear, obviously, that the east is .... the eastern bazaar, you can always bargain! Even it is NECESSARY not to offend the merchant!
    Those. besides the benefits, the process itself entices!
  9. mark1
    mark1 3 September 2019 07: 45
    0
    It's time to start working without intermediaries. The United States will gladly buy from us both the S-400 (and S-500) regimental set, and the Armat battalion and the Su-57 regiment - or even Poseidon with Peresvet. And, what is especially remarkable, no sanctions will be imposed!