Confirmed data on the MiG-35 piloting by Indian pilots at the MAX-2019

The information that the MiG-35 fighters at the MAX-2019 in the Moscow region were piloted by Indian pilots was confirmed. Information about this was provided by the press service of the Indian Air Force.

The press service of the Indian Air Force noted that Indian pilots were entrusted with conducting test flights in the sky over Zhukovsky.

Test flights on airplanes were carried out by Indian Air Force officers. In total, two flights were made on the MiG-35.

The Indian delegation at the air show in the suburbs was led by Air Operations CEO Amit Dev. He noted that delegations demonstrated the latest Russian Su-57E fighter, which is located in the so-called static parking lot at the exhibition.

The press service of the Indian Air Force recalled that in July this year, the MiG-35 inspected the Marshal aviation India Birender Dhanoa, who eventually showed interest in the possible procurement of this aircraft for the needs of the Indian Air Force.

At the same time, the press and the blogosphere continue active discussion incident on the MAX-2019, when a Russian-made fighter during one of the demonstration flights lost a fragment of the skin. About who exactly at that moment the plane was piloting is not officially reported. According to some reports, it was one of the Indian pilots.

Comments

[kjhg]

Ours did the right thing to let the Indian pilot fly. It is necessary to do everything possible so that India purchases Mig-35. His Air Force does not particularly need it, but a large export order will breathe new life into the renowned Mig Aircraft Corporation. Today, in the absence of orders, it really bends. We need a lot of money to carry out the re-equipment of the enterprise. Without this, there can be no talk of any real work on a promising light fighter and a promising interceptor.

[Every]

Quote: kjhg

Ours did the right thing to let the Indian pilot fly. It is necessary to do everything possible so that India purchases the Mig-35. His Air Force doesn't really need him

So MIG-35 was originally created for export. He was accepted into service only because, according to the rules, you can only sell equipment that is in service.
It's like the Terminators for Egypt.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Every

He was accepted into service only because, according to the rules, you can only sell equipment that is in service.

such rules are not spelled out anywhere, this is the unwritten law of the market - few will buy military equipment that is not operated by the producing country. No one needs a cat in a bag (moreover, such an expensive cat)

[venik]

Quote: Every

because according to the rules, you can only sell equipment that is in service.

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Well, WHERE are these regulations "spelled out"???? Can you tell me? THERE ARE NO THEM - NO !!! It's just that technology that is not adopted by the manufacturing country itself is traditionally treated with a certain degree of" suspicion "......

[Blackgrifon]

Quote: Every

because by the rules

And where are these rules spelled out?
So the MiG-29M2 is not in service with the Russian Aerospace Forces, but is being purchased by Egypt.

Quote: Every

It's like the Terminators for Egypt.

Egypt did not purchase any terminators (neither helicopters, nor BMOs).

[av58]

MIG-35 was NEVER created for export. In general, not a single aircraft is created for export, only and exclusively for its own armed forces. Until military equipment is adopted by the national air force, it does not have any export potential.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: av58

MIG-35 was NEVER created for export.

The MiG-35 is today considered by the Russian military leadership as an export product, as well as a way to support the military-industrial complex.
The Ministry of Defense has never expressed much interest in this aircraft, the volume of purchases was planned in very limited volumes (and only then, to show that the Russian Air Force also has an aircraft, and to support RSK MiG), which is why many experts have long been convinced the fact that this aircraft is created as an export product of the Russian defense industry.

[av58]

Once again, I explain to ignoramuses: 1) Military equipment that is not in service with the national Armed Forces has no export potential. It is simply not considered by any of the foreign buyers. 2) No military equipment is created specifically for export, unless it is provided for by previously signed intergovernmental agreements on military-technical cooperation. 3) The Russian "military leadership" has nothing to do with industrial policy, including the maintenance of military-technical cooperation. 4) If military equipment was not created within the framework of military technical cooperation under intergovernmental agreements, then a version is offered for export, with characteristics SPECIALLY AGREED with the Ministry of Defense, and this is where the role of "military leadership" begins and ends. 5) MIG-35 was created for a long time and not easy, and this development had nothing to do with "maintaining the military-industrial complex" (ie RSK "MIG"). Is that clearer?

[Grigory_45]

Quote: av58

Once again I explain to ignoramuses

explain to yourself.

Quote: av58

Military equipment that is not in the arsenal of the national armed forces has no export potential. It’s just that no one from foreign buyers is considering

Now, the question to the ignoramus: did I say anything else? Or did you, like the others, decide to make extra money on hype?
I wrote:

Quote: Gregory_45

few will buy military equipment that is not operated by the producing country. No one needs a cat in a bag (moreover, such an expensive cat)

Those. here you specifically lazhanuli.

Quote: av58

No military equipment is created specifically for export

is being created. I gave you examples above. Another striking example is the British company Vickers.

Quote: av58

The Russian "military leadership" has nothing to do with industrial policy, including the maintenance of military-technical cooperation

Firstly, it has. Secondly, I was not talking about

Quote: Gregory_45

The Ministry of Defense has never expressed much interest in this aircraft, the volume of purchases was planned in very limited volumes (and only then, to show that the Russian Air Force also has an aircraft, and to support RSK MiG

Quote: av58

MIG-35 was created for a long time and not easy, and this development had nothing to do with "maintaining the military-industrial complex" (ie RSK "MIG").

Now we read what I wrote:

Quote: Gregory_45

The Ministry of Defense has never expressed much interest in this aircraft, the volume of purchases was planned in very limited volumes (and only then, to show that the Russian Air Force also has an aircraft, and to support RSK MiG), which is why many experts have long been convinced the fact that this aircraft is created as an export product of the Russian defense industry.

Quote: Gregory_45

MiG-35 is considered today Russian military leadership as an export product, as well as a way to support the defense industry

So see?

[Saul_Rhen]

What about the SU-30?

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Saul_Rhen

What about the SU-30?

We needed the Su-30 ourselves. But it could be produced in very scanty quantities - the situation in the country in the 90s, I think you remember. The Indians helped out. The plane was finalized for them, a joint venture was organized. With the money raised, they began to slowly expand production for their own air force - and practically the same spent "Indian" (and with Indian money) Su-30MKI, with minimal changes, which received the Russian name Su-30SM

[Grigory_45]

Quote: av58

In general, no aircraft are created for export

here you are a little wrong. And the planes were created with an eye to export (or to arm friendly regimes), and if we talk about weapons in general, then this (production specifically for export) is practiced everywhere and at all.
Of the latest products of our defense industry, one can recall the Pantsir ZRPK (created for and according to the UAE TTZ), the Tiger armored car - again for the UAE, the RPG-32 Barkas grenade launcher, aka Hashim - was created by order of Jordan.

[ilya63]

Only after the lining comes off in flight, they vryatli who will buy it! Imagine. You take the car for a test drive, and on the trip the wing falls off !!!! Buy this car?

[Sky strike fighter]

But what about the F-35, whose casing was not flown away for the first time, but it is being purchased at the moment, so this is essentially the most massive plane in the West in terms of the serial production line.

[ilya63]

The United States is shoving its F 35 by force! We cannot do this. (Unfortunately)

[Sky strike fighter]

Oh, don’t make you out of a molehill. Anything can happen. Everything is fixable.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: ilya63

The United States shoves its F 35 by force!

especially Turkey ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

But what about the F-35, whose casing was not the first time flown off

Sheathing and stealth coating are slightly different things.

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

But what about the F-35, whose casing was not the first time flown off

Sheathing and stealth coating are slightly different things.

It is the skin. Let me quote my post located at the end of the branch.

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

The U.S. Air Force recognized the incident with the F-35 Lighting II fighter from the Kaden air base on the Japanese island of Okinawa. The plane lost part of the skin in the air, Defense News writes.

The incident happened on November 30, 104 kilometers east of Okinawa, but the US military confirmed the information only now. An American fighter from a Kaden-based force performed a training flight. After the aircraft returned to the ground, in the middle part of the right air intake there was no fragment of skin covering 30 × 60 centimeters in size. A photo of a plane with a hole in its side was published by Japanese media.

http://m.rosbalt.ru/world/2017/12/06/1666230.html

Be consistent. Tell us about the F-35 incident, it’s either a diversion, or just a disgusting build quality and just a shame.

[ender]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Be consistent. Tell us about the F-35 incident, it’s either a diversion, or just a disgusting build quality and just a shame.

Or maybe just tell the truth? there was no casing, technolyuk

[Piramidon]

Quote: ilya63

Only after the skin comes off in flight, whoever buys it!

Sheathing or hatch?

[NN52]

Not very clear from the photo ...

[voyaka uh]

Technical service door. There were pictures with an increase.

[Sky strike fighter]

What difference does a hatch or wing of an airplane have a jamb there and there? As if the hatch justifies something.

[voyaka uh]

The technician did not screw the bolts.
And not a factory marriage. That is the difference.

[figwam]

Quote: voyaka uh

The technician did not screw the bolts.
And not a factory marriage. That is the difference.

This is not a factory defect, these wing pads are mounted on screws as well as hatches, in this case they are also not twisted by a technician.

[mmaxx]

Normally, these screws cannot be used twice. There is also a lousy manner of workers to pass anchor nuts with a tap. Otherwise, these screws are very difficult to screw in. That’s why it flew off.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: NN52

Not very clear from the photo ...

and at this place the F-35 technical hatch

[NN52]

Well, the hatch with the "root" vomited along the upper mounts, naturally damage to the skin.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: NN52

Well, the hatch with the "root" vomited along the upper mounts, naturally damage to the skin

solely through the fault of technical services. This is not a design and manufacturing defect of the aircraft, agree?

[NN52]

And on MiG 29 is this a design and manufacturing defect?

[Grigory_45]

Quote: NN52

And on MiG 29 is this a design and manufacturing defect?

Are you trying to make money on hype? Or are you not trained to read?
I spoke for the F-35
The incident with the MiG-35 should be investigated by a special commission. She will make a verdict that it was a manufacturing defect or negligence of technical staff.

Put more cons for adequate comments. Although I do not care for them, they are only an indicator of the mental abilities of those who put them

[NN52]

So .. Gregory .. Now this is rude from you. for hype what it is that I do not know.
And you "dull", speaking for the MiG 35? or do you troll on purpose? (A hundred times have already written here, on which type and board the pad was torn off).
Turn on your head, minus one.
And finally, learn to read and understand people, expert, from the promised land.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: NN52

And you "dull", speaking for the MiG 35?

Do you want to say that the MiG-35D was not flying? Read my comments, they have arguments why the aircraft was exactly MiG-35

As for the incident, he did not say a word about what was the cause and whose fault. Because I don’t know. I know what is in that place (the hydraulic cylinder of the aileron drive), and the fact that on the upper surface of the plane of the wing of the hatch is of such a configuration that the torn off "spare part" in the photo is not. This can also be seen by reading my comments.

[NN52]

What is the difference between the MiG-29M2 (produced in 2011) and the MiG-35? (You'd better glue the letter D somewhere to another "place".) You are not an expert.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: NN52

the letter D you'd better glued somewhere else to another "place"

I’ll better stick it to you) Litera D - means a double version of the MiG-35

Quote: NN52

What is the difference between the MiG-29M2 (2011 model year) and the MiG-35?

But this is an interesting question. It depends on which MiG-35 flew.
previously the car was called MiG-29M2, MiG-29M3 and MiG-29M4
Nevertheless, it is now customary to call the plane exactly MiG-35. We do not call the Su-30 as the Su-27UB, and the Su-35S as the Su-35BM

Less emotions, more constructive.

[mmaxx]

And I'm a plus. And then not to see the logs in your eyes has become the norm.

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

It was at Mig-29 that part of the skin flew off, and the Americans wrote that it was Mig-35, an information war!

[Joker62]

Quote: kjhg

Ours did the right thing to let the Indian pilot fly. It is necessary to do everything possible so that India purchases Mig-35. His Air Force does not particularly need it, but a large export order will breathe new life into the renowned Mig Aircraft Corporation. Today, in the absence of orders, it really bends. We need a lot of money to carry out the re-equipment of the enterprise. Without this, there can be no talk of any real work on a promising light fighter and a promising interceptor.

That means, put the Indians on the needle, i.e. a ready buyer of our Russian technology .... It is high time to do so so that the Indians did not have the opportunity to get away from good and excellent equipment ... But the Indians, nevertheless, will desperately bargain to make discounts and more ...

[seregatara1969]

let them taste personal impressions and best emotions

[APASUS]

Maybe only I can see the difference between demonstration flights and test flights carried out by pilots from India?

[U-58]

In this case, it is one and the same.
For Indians, this is both a demonstration and a test.
Like, see for yourself what an airplane is, how easy it is to master it after model 29.
And show the skill of piloting at our event.
You are our closest friends

[Avior]

Of course different
Demonstrations prepare and train much in advance, based on the entertainment of the flight for the audience.
Test (and rather test, to fly and write reports to the management about the impressions received, if they were unlikely to experience a twinkle on some program, much more time is needed) they do not require any entertainment, and it’s hard to expect from pilots who, if they have, then the minimum raid for an instant is 35, but rather they do not have at all spectacular tricks at low altitudes that are characteristic of the show.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: APASUS

Maybe only I can see the difference between demonstration flights and test flights carried out by pilots from India?

demonstration flight - a flight to demonstrate the capabilities of an aircraft, flight skills.
Test flights are carried out in order to test the aircraft, to identify its characteristics .. In this case, of course, it is correct to say exactly the test flight - for Indian pilots it was an assessment of the capabilities of the aircraft.

[askort154]

Gregory_45 ..... In this case, of course, it is correct to say just a test flight - for Indian pilots it was an assessment of the capabilities of the machine.

Test flights - flights to determine aircraft capabilities and
development of rules for its operation, specially approved for this by test pilots under a special program. (in plain language).
Indian pilots performed flights to master new aircraft, taking part in demonstration flights. These flights have nothing to do with "test" flights. They simply received permission to fly a new type of aircraft (MiG-35), which was given to them by our instructor pilots, possibly testers, after their preliminary theoretical and flight training.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: askort154

Test flights ...

Well, what did they feel? The patience and endurance of our salesmen who want to sell them equipment? Because there is nothing more to "test" a combat vehicle that has passed all stages of STATE tests, in all modes and all kinds of loads and adopted by the Aerospace Forces.
Therefore, we can speak of a "test" only in the sense of "testing a feeling of deep satisfaction" by the Indians from flying on such a "vimaana" that instantly responds to the slightest manipulation (evolution) of the control stick!
Delight and an undisguised desire to have such a machine in service - this is the result of the "test flight" of the Brahmins from the Indian Air Force, who were allowed to ride a car, which is an aircraft of the "4 ++" generation.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: askort154

Indian pilots completed flights for the development of new aircraft, taking part in demonstration flights

Is not a demonstration flight conducted to demonstrate both the technology itself and its capabilities? The same all kinds of delegations. Party demonstrating the technique. In accordance with a pre-prepared program, which may include both aerobatics and training combat and training attack ground targets.
Was it not a test for Indian pilots? They will write flight reports (reports) in which they will state their impressions and give characteristics

[askort154]

Gregory_45 ... For Indian pilots, he was not a test? They will write flight reports (reports) in which they will state their impressions and give characteristics.

Do you think that any pilot can get on any plane and fly like reseeding from car to car?
"Test flight" is the root of "test", not "try". What did Indian pilots "experience" on a production aircraft? Only your professional emotions, flying in a "circle", making a couple of "barrels" and
write a report about them. All ! This has nothing to do with the tests of the aircraft.
Their task is to compare the "abilities" of the MiG-35, with the aircraft of other "firms" they had previously mastered, and to draw professional conclusions for their "chiefs" that it is better than the "MiG-35" or "F-s", so that they have grounds for conclusion of a purchase agreement. Moreover, in a demonstration flight,
they will not even receive a small fraction of the combat capabilities of the aircraft.
They will be able to draw their conclusions only on the take-off and landing and flight characteristics of this aircraft, but not on combat. For this, it will not require participation in demonstration flights, but a more extensive flight program on the operational characteristics of the aircraft purchased.

That is, these pilots played the role of experts, but not the role of "testers". The MiG-35 has already passed a full test cycle and is approved for serial production, regardless of who flew them on demonstration flights. Comparing test flights and demonstration flights is like comparing solid to liquid.
Indian pilots did it, and only a part of what our combat pilots do all the time, when receiving the aircraft at the manufacturing plant (or repair plant). They make a "fly-over" to him according to a special program, sign an act, and after that they are driven to the base.
These flights are called "test" flights, but not test flights. Or "test and test" if one or more engines or "vital" systems have been replaced. Once again - Indian pilots did not test the MiG-35, they "mastered" it - after having passed the full
a retraining program for a new type, according not to them, but to our program.
Only then can we allow them to pilot "Our!" plane, and when they buy it, let them fly as they want to the evil Pakistanis. "Indian aerobatics MiG-35" on MAKS-19 is a purely marketing move of our military-industrial complex ....
Like, hey! ... "Wallets", look, even Indians can easily fly at the MiG-35.
Sorry, a lot of letters, but in a nutshell.

[mmaxx]

Do not drive on the Indians. They fly well.

[novel66]

yeah break off rafal something!

[knn54]

Indians, FIRST of all, need new avionics technologies and effective simulations. This is absolutely necessary to create a 5th generation aircraft. Therefore, the opinions of Premier Modi and the Indian Air Force command may not coincide.

[Grigory_45]

Confirmed data on the MiG-35 piloting by Indian pilots at the MAX-2019

Well, that's all cleared up. And then some wrote in the style: "I do not believe", "yellow press fictions", "crap", "this cannot be at the air show, because there cannot be a priori" and so on ...

[Rwmos]

I liked the other photo more. Service MI-35M after a demonstration flight.

This is how the Tiger Eurocopter is serviced in the field:

KMK already alone does not only increase the cost of preflight training, but also significantly increases the time required for it. And so with all our technology

[armata_armata]

KMK already alone does not only increase the cost of preflight training, but also significantly increases the time required for it. And so with all our technology

Do you think they won’t climb a tiger without forests?)

[Rwmos]

Well, they don’t climb ...

[armata_armata]

Well, they don’t climb ...

They just do not have our technicians))

[Rwmos]

That's right)))

[Okolotochny]

And for me - this speaks of the prostate maintenance of equipment.

[Slon379]

Pleased about the prostate)))

[Slon379]

But ease of maintenance is important!

[Slon379]

It would be more correct to say "this indicates the presence of a prostate in service technicians")))). We were very pleased.

[Okolotochny]

Stop joking. This T9 on the tablet is still that thing.

[Slon379]

Sorry, I won’t.

[igor67]

Na24ke, change the ROM, in principle, work for 10-15 minutes.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: RWMos

This is how the Tiger Eurocopter is serviced in the field:

in your photo - an Australian "invention")
No one in this way Tigers, except for them, serves)

[mmaxx]

I think that our technicians would not refuse such stepladders. To fit them is a matter of 5 minutes. Then you climb like a man.

[UVB]

Information comes either from the American publication The Aviationist, or from the press service of the Indian Air Force. And where are the domestic official sources? And on what plane did the Indians fly, on the MiG-35 or 29M2?

[Sky strike fighter]

The Indians flew on the MiG-35.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: UVB

And on what plane did the Indians fly, on the MiG-35 or 29M2?

On the MiG-35D prototype demonstrator

[UVB]

In a yesterday’s article on VO: https://topwar.ru/161934-the-aviationist-mig-35-poterjal-kusok-obshivki-v-hode-poleta-na-maks-2019.html indicated

At the same time, The Aviationist mistakenly calls the aircraft in the published photos a fighter of the 4 ++ generation MiG-35, while in reality it is an upgraded version of the MiG-29 with the M2 index.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: UVB

In yesterday’s article on VO

indicated incorrectly. It was the MiG-35D that flew, other sources say the same (domestic specialized publications, Indian media, Mikhail Belyaev, chief pilot of the RAC "MiG" in his interview)
The flight schedule for MAKS-2019 does not include single flights of the MiG-29, only as part of the Swifts aerobatics group. You can see for yourself on the off site. But MiG-35 flights - daily, from the 28th

[Blackgrifon]

Quote: UVB

on the MiG-35

On him. And an unpleasant incident happened to him.

[mitrich]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

But what about the F-35, whose casing was not flown away for the first time, but it is being purchased at the moment, so this is essentially the most massive plane in the West in terms of the serial production line.

So this is America. Try not to buy from her. They have other methods of persuasion and trade marketing.

[Sky strike fighter]

Weighty arguments Tomahawk, Trident in case of "corrosion of democracy". They will immediately convince.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

A piece of the MiG-35 wing sheathing has flown off, it is either a diversion, or simply disgusting build quality and just a shame.

They drove these MiG-35s so much and nothing, but right there at the international salon, they gave the Indians a flight and a piece of the wing came off.

How can this be?

And do not compare this situation with the F-35, there the flap flew off, and then a piece of the wing skin.

[Sky strike fighter]

The U.S. Air Force recognized the incident with the F-35 Lighting II fighter from the Kaden air base on the Japanese island of Okinawa. The plane lost part of the skin in the air, Defense News writes.

The incident happened on November 30, 104 kilometers east of Okinawa, but the US military confirmed the information only now. An American fighter from a Kaden-based force performed a training flight. After the aircraft returned to the ground, in the middle part of the right air intake there was no fragment of skin covering 30 × 60 centimeters in size. A photo of a plane with a hole in its side was published by Japanese media.

http://m.rosbalt.ru/world/2017/12/06/1666230.html

Be consistent. Tell us about the F-35 incident, it’s either a diversion, or just a disgusting build quality and just a shame.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

The U.S. Air Force recognized the incident with the F-35 Lighting II fighter from the Kaden air base on the Japanese island of Okinawa. The plane lost part of the skin in the air, Defense News writes.

The incident happened on November 30, 104 kilometers east of Okinawa, but the US military confirmed the information only now. An American fighter from a Kaden-based force performed a training flight. After the aircraft returned to the ground, in the middle part of the right air intake there was no fragment of skin covering 30 × 60 centimeters in size. A photo of a plane with a hole in its side was published by Japanese media.

http://m.rosbalt.ru/world/2017/12/06/1666230.html

Be consistent. Tell us about the F-35 incident, it’s either a diversion, or just a disgusting build quality and just a shame.

And where is the photo published by the Japanese media? Why in the article where all this is described this photo is just not there?

This article is more like propaganda, and cheaper.

But MIG-35 clearly needs to be sorted out and investigated.

I do not believe in such coincidences. So that an airplane that has been tested for a long time, checked before the flight, it took and lost a piece of skin from the wing, and even when it was piloted by the Indians, who just now decide what they should buy instead of the aging MiG-21.

And if this is just hackwork during assembly, which can also be - punish in all severity the persons responsible for quality control.

Because of this, we may lose the possible contract for the delivery of the MiG-35 to India, which could be just a salvation for the MiG and bring money to the Russian economy and prevent the United States or NATO countries from producing and supplying India with more than a hundred fighters.

[Sky strike fighter]

Let me quote myself.

Quote: NN52

Not very clear from the photo ...

[Diviz]

They did it right and what they did wrong. Much needs to be done, but enough strength. Can anyone rebuild Moscow help. Most likely there is not a broom here. Although this is not a national treasure, it means we will make construction sites beyond the hillocks. China's national currency Bitcoin introduces from October 1, so that our region belongs to the PRC. And to usa.

[Sky strike fighter]

The word Moscow is capitalized.

[bars1]

The Indians will not buy the MiG-35 ...

[Adimius38]

Mig-35 an excellent modern aircraft can use the whole range of modern weapons, while the cost of maintenance is cheaper than that of the same drying and the price for the car is cheaper. This fighter would be a great addition to SU aircraft in the Russian army. The fact that some kind of socket on the wing fell off there, well, with whom it does not happen, the car is experiencing serious overload, everything will be fixed. For example, the US Air Force F-16C In 2019, the separation of the stabilizer composite material, which could lead to sad consequences.

[Saul_Rhen]

And what is the point of procreation of entities? Why are there so many aircraft of the same class in the Aerospace Forces? The only reason for adopting this "excellent aircraft" is the hope of pushing it later for export.

[Adimius38]

I mean one class ???? YOU where else in the Russian Armed Forces have seen the Mig-35 class of a light fighter class, is it possible that the Mig-29 is not only physically and morally outdated, but is also rapidly being withdrawn from the Russian Armed Forces. If we consider the Mig-29cm, then there are no more than 4 dozen of them, just the same with light fighters, we have a big failure and we need to order new machines that are modern, efficient and most importantly cheap. I’ll tell you more we need light fighters with a single-engine design, but alas, no one has yet proposed and the prospect somewhere far beyond the horizon

[Saul_Rhen]

The fact of the matter is that the MiG-35 is anything but easy, whatever they write in advertising booklets. At the same time, it has very doubtful performance characteristics compared to comparable dryers. Comparison with competitors in the market is also not in favor of MiG. I always wondered why the MiG spent so much time and money digging this stewardess instead of developing a normal light fighter.

[Adimius38]

I repeat once again why compare two fighters of different classes, one of which is 13500 kg and the other 19000 kg that is 5 and a half tons heavier, the tasks for a light fighter and a heavy one are still different and if the MiG-29 was once created as a front-line fighter for conquest dominance in the air directly over the battlefield, the Su-27 was created as an air defense fighter for many hours barrage to protect the state border. I repeat that under the conditions of a primitive raw materials economy, to say the least, the operation of the same MIG-35 is much cheaper than the Su-35.

[Saul_Rhen]

Now there is no sense in dividing fighters into air defense and front-line ones. Absolutely. They are all multipurpose. "Much cheaper" would have been provided only the MiG-35 was available. With the parallel production and use of MiGs and Dryers, it can turn out to be more expensive due to logistics, training of pilots and maintenance personnel, production of equipment and, roughly speaking, spare parts for several types of aircraft designed to perform the same tasks. But this is already a problem that has been blooming since the times of the USSR in all types of armed forces. Well-intentioned "producer support" leads to the wildest zoo, which is reflected in the cost of maintenance and combat readiness. At the end of the XNUMXs, there was a hope to get away from all this, but it did not grow together.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Adimius38

need to order new cars modern, efficient and most importantly cheap

the fact of the matter is that the MiG-35 is far from cheap. Lightweight fighter, with limited capabilities, but at a price closely approaching the Su-30/35

[Dikson]

Even if it is negligence ... - before the conclusion of a multi-million dollar contract. - this is a criminal negligence .. Sabotage of the purest water .. Undermining the image. "It's okay" they write here ... Of course. The plane did not fall, no one died .. They just screwed up the whole world once again .. And more - nothing terrible happened ... There is not enough evil ...

[Megamarcel]

The Indians use the 35th as a trump card to receive discounts on the French or American fighter. This is likely to calm down.