The Aviationist: MiG-35 lost a piece of skin during the flight on the MAX-2019

The Russian MiG-35 fighter lost a piece of wing skin during a demonstration flight as part of the MAKS-2019 aerospace cabin. It is reported by the American edition The Aviationist with reference to their own photojournalists in Zhukovsky near Moscow. An abnormal situation with the aircraft occurred 29 August. According to some reports, pilots of the Indian Air Force piloted the plane.


The Aviationist: MiG-35 lost a piece of skin during the flight on the MAX-2019


According to the staff of the publication Lancey Wrigle and Tom Demerli, parts of the fighter's skin fell in the field, not far from the place where the press and spotters were.

At the same time, The Aviationist mistakenly calls the aircraft in the published photos the 4 ++ MiG-35 generation fighter, whereas in reality it is an upgraded version of the MiG-29 with the M2 index. The American publication hurried somewhat with malice, saying that this incident would adversely affect the results of the Indian tender, in which the MiG-35 is participating.


Of course, the MiG-29M2 has exactly the same glider as the MiG-35 (what can I say - in fact it is the same aircraft), but it does not directly relate to the MiG’s recently launched mass production combat flagship.


The MiG-29M2 participating in the demonstration flight (according to some sources - the 747 b / n) was the first aircraft of this type to be launched in the 2011 year, and was intended for deliveries to Syria. The contract, however, was not implemented for well-known reasons, and the aircraft was subsequently actively used for testing by the manufacturer itself as part of the MiG-35 refinement.
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  1. Machete 31 August 2019 16: 54 New
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    With such overloads ...
    Fig, of course, but the plane is new, they will bring to mind.
    The penguin would be completely lost if he started to do something like that.
    1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 31 August 2019 16: 59 New
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      It's okay, it happens, the working moment. Here's an example of a photograph of an F-35 fighter with a technological hatch torn off in flight on board the fuselage.

      1. Lipchanin 31 August 2019 17: 18 New
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        Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
        It's okay, it happens, the working moment.

        At our air show on July 20, a cone with a brake parachute bounced off the SU-35. Nothing, worked to the end. On the video after 18:30
      2. 777-3-59-97 31 August 2019 18: 35 New
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        Here's an example of a photograph of an F-35 fighter with a technological hatch torn off in flight on board the fuselage.

        Thank God that the neighbor’s cow died.
        But in general, such commentators, who in the case of Russian failures cite the example of Americans, understand that they thereby actually recognize the superiority of American technology and thought? Like, well, even if the Americans have problems, then we should not panic at all.
        You can imagine that after an unsuccessful test of some kind of Dodge or Ford, the Americans say, "Have you ever seen a Russian Lada?"
        1. Ramzaj99 31 August 2019 19: 04 New
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          Quote: 777-3-59-97
          But in general, such commentators, who in the case of Russian failures cite the example of Americans, understand that they thereby actually recognize the superiority of American technology and thought?

          This was published by the American Journal. Hence the reference to American technology .....
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        3. Captain Pushkin 31 August 2019 19: 24 New
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          Quote: 777-3-59-97
          You can imagine that after an unsuccessful test of some kind of Dodge or Ford, the Americans say, "Have you ever seen a Russian Lada?"

          Well no. Americans are cool guys. From their Boeing 777 repeatedly some plastic parts fell off in flight. And nothing, no panic. Just think, something fell off at the best airplane in the world. What is there to discuss? And so everything is clear.
          1. taurtaurov 31 August 2019 20: 27 New
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            Quote: Captain Pushkin
            Quote: 777-3-59-97
            You can imagine that after an unsuccessful test of some kind of Dodge or Ford, the Americans say, "Have you ever seen a Russian Lada?"

            Well no. Americans are cool guys. From their Boeing 777 repeatedly some plastic parts fell off in flight. And nothing, no panic. Just think, something fell off at the best airplane in the world. What is there to discuss? And so everything is clear.

            The problem is that all of our Boeing’s equipment in our company is only 25% non-patriotic, but we must also accept the truth, do you know how many planes are in combat condition ??? Less than a small state that fights its entire history
            1. Captain Pushkin 31 August 2019 20: 44 New
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              Quote: taurtaurov
              The problem is that all of our Boeing’s equipment has only 25% of ours.

              Do you think that the MiG has fallen off imported accessories? Then there was nothing to cry about at all - poor-quality imported plastic piece of iron fell to the ground, it became easier for the plane ...
            2. Victorio 31 August 2019 21: 37 New
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              Quote: taurtaurov
              The problem is that everything Boeing’s own equipment

              ===
              from which side, here they write another https://zen.yandex.ru/media/travelmaniac/naskolko-importozamesceny-ih-samolety-5c338851ed659f00ac9809cc
              1. hydrox 1 September 2019 10: 42 New
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                They write the truth, and this “truth” works for THEY :: because FOR OWN, for partners and vassals, these economic ties in today's capitalist world for all those involved in the “international division of labor” are stronger than steel ropes (Even Brazil as a member of an allegedly anti-American organization BRICS - and that left "under the roof of the Americans (they can be understood :: until they completely collapsed (like Ukraine) they had very little left).
                But Russia is an ENEMY for globalizers, therefore, for the supra-world elite, the rule "Fell Push!" acts first and foremost in relation to us and all those who have decided to make friends with us in one sphere or another. This caused the Super Jet to “burn” (in fact, it’s not the worst aircraft), but could not withstand the pressure from the outside, in the language of globalizers “it turned out to be uncompetitive” By the way, our 5th column thinks the same way!).
                And we should not think that this is Pogosyan’s mistake, not at all :: such a fate awaits any Russian project, MORE THAN if this project has features that clearly and obviously push this project into the circle of top models, and such projects (including . not having analogues in the average Saxon mind) Russia has in sufficient quantities. We only need managers who have enough brains and minds to competently manage the capabilities of the Russian Mind (and do not think that this nostalgia may contain even a hint of at least one persona from a liberda - an intelligent, capable and politically far-sighted liberda does not give rise) . yes
                1. Minato2020 2 September 2019 23: 07 New
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                  Quote: hydrox
                  And we should not think that this is Pogosyan’s mistake, not at all :: such a fate awaits any Russian project, MORE THAN if this project has features that clearly and obviously push this project into the circle of top models ...


                  SSJ-100 was designed by Boeing specialists, holders crippled Drawings is a Boeing. SSJ-100 is not a Russian project, and therefore not a Russian aircraft.

                  Excerpt from one open letter:
                  ".... Why, after the departure of General Designer RA Belyakov, our company was led by natives of Sukhoi and Irkut, who are competitors of our company?
                  The result of their many years of activity with the inability or unwillingness to defend the interests of the company today are:
                  debt in the amount of 48 billion;
                  closure of a number of topics (1.44, MiG-AT, MiG-110);
                  disruption of the Algiers contract;
                  losing the tender in India;
                  the delay in the supply of India MiG-29K (not the fault of the EC);
                  the delay in resolving issues on the MiG-29K for the Russian Navy;
                  removal of MiG RSK from participation in the tender of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation for unmanned aerial vehicles ...
                  .... The most unfortunate thing is that appeals to clarify the situation to the management of OJSC RSK MiG or UAC invariably remained unanswered, because Today, all these leaders are proteges of Sukhoi or Irkut.
                  In connection with the above, we consider it necessary:
                  Conduct a full audit of the financial position of RAC MiG OJSC, optimizing the costs of the governing apparatus and increasing due to this the salaries of ordinary engineers.
                  Conduct an objective investigation into the causes of the situation, with the public announcement of its results.
                  Stop the activities of MA Poghosyan and Co. on the collapse of the aviation industry.
                  Stop the collapse of our enterprise, which can still create the best samples of aviation technology, and thereby preserve the unique Mikoyan Design School - in the name of strengthening the defense capability of our Motherland.

                  Chairman of the Trade Union Committee
                  Engineering Center "OKB im. A.I. Mikoyan
                  Yu.A. Malakhov
                  1. hydrox 3 September 2019 05: 55 New
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                    If you agree with this letter, it means recognizing that the enemy’s activity to destroy the aircraft industry is victorious and suppressing such attempts does not require administrative resources, but political will: the Liberde does not need light aircraft, they need to “optimize” the aircraft industry (its destruction and destruction if raider capture is impossible or inappropriate).
                    There is no Stalin on them! sad
            3. Uncle Vanya Susanin 2 September 2019 16: 44 New
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              And how many planes are in combat condition? Please voice the number, for example, I do not know !?
            4. Nikolay Balashov 2 September 2019 19: 26 New
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              A young man, but Nitsche, that 35% of the details of Boeing made in Russia? Reception of the details that they themselves can not do? But that the Boeing Design Bureau is located in Moscow, and the Russian and German designers working there say nothing? And what is the only Boeing, is the falling 737MAX developed in AI?
          2. Rwmos 1 September 2019 10: 46 New
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            From Boeing recently everything moved to the city of Rome spilled out:

            24 cars and 12 houses suffered. 10 of August of this year.
        4. Voyager 31 August 2019 22: 31 New
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          Do you generally understand that when referring to Americans such as you explain that such situations inevitably occur everywhere and with everyone? The American aircraft industry is best suited for comparison with ours.
        5. Sevastiec 1 September 2019 06: 57 New
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          So the Americans were the first to write.

      3. Angelica 1 September 2019 04: 32 New
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        Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
        It's okay, it happens, the working moment.

        Absolutely right. This is not particularly terrible.
        The only bad thing is that this "okay" happened at an international exhibition. And the media recorded this. Such a "no big deal" gives non-partners a reason to inflate the negative around Russian developments and Russia as a whole.
        I wanted the equipment better prepared for such shows. But let’s not worry, be in another place. Not in front of the whole world. hi
      4. Bshkaus 1 September 2019 09: 11 New
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        It's okay, it happens, the working moment.

        Listen, what does it mean "nothing to worry" ?!
        Let us together (I also sin with this) at least try to get rid of this bad habit?
        And if it was not the MiG-29M2, which has at least an ejection seat, God forbid Sukhoi Superjet with a hundred passengers, including me, you and your family, or even worse than the MS-21, but with two hundred .
        And if you God forbid, naturally, you would be on my operating table, and I accidentally slashed an aorta with a scalpel, this is also a “working moment”, like an ax chopping a woodcutter instead of a paleon, a lumberjack finger.
        C'mon finger, they only fly off the road, but the plane is still a very complicated technique, and the pilot is in very hostile conditions during the flight, this is hypoxia, low pressure and even the same speed. You think at 500 km / h it’s nice to leave the cabin by shooting, but at 1300 km / h it’s generally tough: it happens that the filters crack, and the dents in the helmets of the helmet are huge from the impact on the stabilizer bar.
        There are things to be taken very seriously.
        PS I completely agree with you that this is a "working moment" and everything happens in aviation, but most of the disasters just happen not for one single reason, which in itself is not "fatal", but for a whole cascade of reasons, unexpected for milestone merging into a fatal series of events.
        1. Captain Pushkin 1 September 2019 11: 54 New
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          Quote: Bshkaus
          And if it was not the MiG-29M2, which has at least an ejection seat, God forbid Sukhoi Superjet with a hundred passengers, including me, you and your family, or even worse than the MS-21, but with two hundred .

          And if my grandmother had a member, she would be a grandfather ...
    2. figwam 31 August 2019 17: 09 New
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      They just did not spin the pad, it happens, the human factor.
      1. Sky strike fighter 31 August 2019 17: 32 New
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        That corrosion on the F-22, now the skin on the Mig-35. Photoshop steers? Americans and strive to break the contract for the supply of Mig-35 to India to push their F-21. And given what they have "independent" and "non-worthy" media, then I would not be surprised if this is a fake news.
        1. hydrox 1 September 2019 11: 01 New
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          It’s not so easy to relate to corrosion: in 2008 with an interval of 2 m-2 at the airport of Domna, 29 MiGs fell: both soon after take-off, the keel fell off, the reason being hidden corrosion.
      2. Sky strike fighter 31 August 2019 17: 56 New
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        Quote: figvam
        They just did not spin the pad, it happens, the human factor.

        Haha found a video of the MiG-35 flight at MAKS-2019. Pay attention to the left wing before the MiG-35 took off. That is, nothing fell off in the air. Someone "painted" in Photoshop and launched a disu as anti-advertising Mig-35 on the Internet. Looks like someone does not like interest in this car abroad. The competition is unclean.
        Link to video.
        https://youtu.be/oMmLfL6QeTE
        1. Igar 31 August 2019 18: 56 New
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          I will surprise you, but in addition to August 29, he also flew 30 and 31 ...
          1. Sky strike fighter 31 August 2019 19: 38 New
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            Quote: IGAR
            I will surprise you, but in addition to August 29, he also flew 30 and 31 ...

            I will surprise you too. This photo refers to August 29th. The link below contains a lot of photos of this flight from all angles, from all sides and the date of the shooting is indicated.
            Detachment of the skin panel from the left wing of the MiG-35D prototype demonstrator during a demonstration flight with the Indian crew at the Moscow Aviation and Space Salon MAKS-2019 in Zhukovsky, 29.08.2019/XNUMX/XNUMX (c) Tom Demerly / TheAviationist

            The resource recalls that on August 2 and July 21, 2019, similar incidents involving the separation of fragments of glider skin occurred during demonstration flights on Lockheed Martin F-16 fighters of the U.S. Air Force - in Michigan and at the British air base Fireford.

            https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3757764.html
            1. Igar 31 August 2019 20: 03 New
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              Are you okay? Photos for August 29, when the incident occurred, your video for August 30. Do you have any other questions or should you explain in more detail?
              1. Sky strike fighter 31 August 2019 20: 24 New
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                Quote: IGAR
                I will surprise you, but in addition to August 29, he also flew 30 and 31 ...

                Quote: IGAR
                Are you okay? Photos for August 29, when the incident occurred, your video for August 30. Do you have any other questions or should you explain in more detail?

                What are you trying to prove to me?
              2. Sky strike fighter 31 August 2019 20: 28 New
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                The Incident was recorded in the photo on August 29, and in the video from August 30 at the beginning of the flight I asked to pay attention to the left wing of the Mig-35 even before take-off. What do you not understand?
                1. Igar 31 August 2019 21: 00 New
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                  That is, nothing fell off in the air. Someone "painted" in Photoshop and launched a disu as anti-advertising Mig-35 on the Internet ...


                  This is incomprehensible ... Where is the disinformation?
                  1. Sky strike fighter 31 August 2019 21: 21 New
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                    Quote: IGAR
                    That is, nothing fell off in the air. Someone "painted" in Photoshop and launched a disu as anti-advertising Mig-35 on the Internet ...


                    This is incomprehensible ... Where is the disinformation?

                    Well, I didn’t figure it out at first, who doesn’t have information wars in our world. I’m ready to apologize for unknowingly misleading anyone if this makes it easier. I thought at first that the video from August 29, where the Mig-35 was already taking off with the left wing without a part of the paneling, and it turned out on August 30, the day after the incident. But now I figured it out.
                    1. Igar 31 August 2019 21: 27 New
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                      Well, great =)
                    2. dali 1 September 2019 21: 54 New
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                      Quote: Sky Strike fighter
                      ... But now I figured it out.

                      Damn ... he apologized .. and the sediment remained ... because our sworn partners act like that ... gr. Maxim, be careful.
        2. Angelica 1 September 2019 04: 38 New
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          Sky Strike fighter (Maxim)
          Someone "painted" in Photoshop and launched a disu as anti-advertising Mig-35 on the Internet.

          In your VO distributes disu?
          1. Normal ok 2 September 2019 09: 19 New
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            Quote: angelica
            Sky Strike fighter (Maxim)
            Someone "painted" in Photoshop and launched a disu as anti-advertising Mig-35 on the Internet.

            In your VO distributes disu?

            And how. There are half of the materials, - at least with stretch marks and distortions. And sometimes there is an open linden.
    3. Sky strike fighter 31 August 2019 17: 43 New
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      Quote: Machete
      With such overloads ...
      Fig, of course, but the plane is new, they will bring to mind.
      The penguin would be completely lost if he started to do something like that.

      Yes, this is fake news. On the MAX, the Mig-35 had a different color. Here's the video.
      https://rg.ru/2019/08/28/mig35-video.html
      1. Mikhalych 31 August 2019 17: 51 New
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        It’s better not to say fake news, but crap or something else. And then Angloism was tortured.
        am
        1. Grits 1 September 2019 00: 35 New
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          Quote: Mikhalych
          It’s better not to say fake news, but crap or something else

          I suggest the words "some crap"
      2. AlexG83 31 August 2019 18: 28 New
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        Quote: Sky Strike fighter
        Quote: Machete
        With such overloads ...
        Fig, of course, but the plane is new, they will bring to mind.
        The penguin would be completely lost if he started to do something like that.

        Yes, this is fake news. On the MAX, the Mig-35 had a different color. Here's the video.
        https://rg.ru/2019/08/28/mig35-video.html

        Mig-35 with a light gray color flew. And the one that’s in your video shows that it’s a bench model, even weapons models are suspended on it.
    4. Piramidon 31 August 2019 18: 00 New
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      Quote: Machete
      With such overloads ...
      Suck of course

      I doubt that this is a "piece of skin", as The Aviationist tries to convince us here. Perhaps again the notorious "human factor". Elementally, the locks of the technological hatch, which fell off in flight, could not be completely closed. In my many years of practice, there have been many events such as the loss of hatches. I'm not MiG-29 special, but I’m guessing that the crew that serves them will write down what is in this place. hi
      1. wow
        wow 31 August 2019 18: 34 New
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        We have in the production of flights on the MiG-21bis aero. Spilve (Riga, Air Force PribVO), in 1979, when approaching, already at the leveling, it broke the compressor inspection hatch (right niche of the chassis). Nothing sat without problems. The techie’s problems started later .....
        1. Piramidon 31 August 2019 18: 42 New
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          Quote: yo-mine
          The techie’s problems started later .....

          Yes, at least, a decrease in class (a hit on one’s pocket), not to mention all sorts of simple and strict reprimands and problems in career advancement. And in my time in the Soviet Army they were also drunk along the party-Komsomol line, right up to the “court of officer honor”. hi
          1. Aerodrome 31 August 2019 18: 51 New
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            you can write, compose and justify anything now ... but for speaking at the "air show" this is a jamb. all ... someone from the techies will have an s.r.s.
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              Quote: Aerodrome
              you can write, compose and justify anything now ... but for speaking at the "air show" this is a jamb. all ... someone from the techies will have an s.r.s.

              It’s okay. It happens. Here is the opinion of the chief pilot. It may even be good, a good sign in some way, like at the opening of the Sochi 2014 Olympics, one of the 5 Olympic rings did not open, but we won the Olympics in the team event. I think so here, as a result, the Mig-35 will be lucky in the future.
              ZHUKOVSKY / Moscow Region /, August 31. / TASS /. The loss of the lining element of the MiG-35 fighter during a demonstration flight at the MAKS-2019 air show cannot be considered a serious incident, MiG RSK chief pilot Mikhail Belyaev told TASS on Saturday in the side of the cabin in Zhukovsky.
              “Sometimes it happens. It's okay,” Belyaev commented on the case of the MiG-35 in the sky above Zhukovsky.

              https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/6828283
      2. Grigory_45 1 September 2019 12: 11 New
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        Quote: Piramidon
        what's in this place

        in that place on MiG-29 type aircraft - aileron hydraulic drive. On the upper plane of the wing of the hatches of such a shape that the fallen off "spare part" is not ...
        1. Lozovik 2 September 2019 05: 28 New
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          Why mislead people? In the “ordinary” MiG-29, a seam passes between the upper panels of the root and end wing sections along the eighth rib at this point.
  2. seregatara1969 31 August 2019 16: 57 New
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    the car returned? the pilot did not guess about anything? we will consider it combat damage
    1. Piramidon 31 August 2019 18: 16 New
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      Quote: seregatara1969
      the car returned? the pilot did not guess about anything? we will consider it combat damage

      You can consider as you like, but this is a prerequisite for the drug. and needs to be investigated. I hope that will be.
      1. Kamchatsky 31 August 2019 19: 28 New
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        Dear Colleague! As for the premise, one can still argue (nobody has canceled the type of Photoshop), but on the other hand, in my first year I brought cracks from the zone on the runways, and that's okay.
        (C) The most daring pilot is a dumb cadet.
        And here it’s like they’re not combatant, but at least candidates for testers fly, and they’re “squeezing oil out of the handle”. laughing
        1. Piramidon 31 August 2019 20: 24 New
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          Quote: Kamchatka
          And here it’s like they’re not combatant, but at least candidates for testers fly, and they’re “squeezing oil out of the handle”.

          What does it have to do with it? Do you really think that this aircraft, after all the tests that have passed, is capable of losing the elements of the ADHESIVE CABINET, which you can turn out with a crowbar, at some such overloads that the human body can endure? Let's wait until the experts respond. Let them describe what kind of structural element that is supposedly lost. hi
  3. Lord of the Sith 31 August 2019 17: 02 New
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    The Americans just to be wicked, and pore in a puddle.

    The vaunted fu-22s themselves were torn, the skin was scratched
  4. NN52 31 August 2019 17: 03 New
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    What is this nonsense? Especially about pilots from India.
    1. Piramidon 31 August 2019 21: 31 New
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      Discount on the inadequacy of "The Aviationist".
    2. Grigory_45 1 September 2019 07: 59 New
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      Quote: NN52
      What is this nonsense? Especially about pilots from India

      The flight of the Indian crew on the MiG-35D prototype demonstrator was carried out in connection with the proposal by the Russian side of the MiG-35 fighter for a new Indian fighter tender. It was then, on July 29, at the Moscow Aviation and Space Salon MAKS-2019 in Zhukovsky, the MiG-35D (and not the MiG-29M2, as it was mistakenly assumed in the note), lost a piece of the lining of the left plane. The plane landed safely.
  5. Nycomed 31 August 2019 17: 07 New
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    Unpleasant, of course, especially at the air show. But nothing fatal happened? no
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  6. Nikolaevich I 31 August 2019 17: 08 New
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    Again, the "Indians"? Oh-ho ... as if Russia didn’t have to “attach” each MiG-35 of a Russian pilot in the event of a contract with India! As a bonus!
    1. 1976AG 31 August 2019 17: 11 New
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      Again, the "Indians"
      Not Indians but Indians)
      1. Piramidon 31 August 2019 18: 07 New
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        Quote: 1976AG
        Again, the "Indians"
        Not Indians but Indians)

        Actually, it’s right - INDIANS are residents of INDIA, and Indians are a trend in religion. Except Indians (directions in religion). They have a lot of directions there.
        Indian religions include Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism and Sikhism, including all their movements and related religious traditions.

        Even Christians are present.
        1. Grits 1 September 2019 00: 43 New
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          Quote: Piramidon
          Actually, it’s right - INDIANS are residents of INDIA, and Indians are a trend in religion.

          Hindu Hinduism
          Hinduism is a religion in India
          India is the country where Indians live
          Indians are people. Not americans
          Indians. Also people. But the Americans
          Turkey is a bird that Americans eat.
          Indigo is the color in which Americans dye their jeans.
          Indiana Jones - Generally, bastard, American.
          ... Well nowhere, damn it, without them.
      2. Nikolaevich I 1 September 2019 02: 55 New
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        Quote: 1976AG
        Not Indians but Indians)

        "Indians" - irony. Hinduism (Indians) - religion. Indians are residents (citizens) of India. In that "region" the same nationalities can live in the territories of different states ... when living in Pakistan, for example, they are already Pakistanis, but this is based on location or citizenship (citizenship) ...
    2. Piramidon 31 August 2019 18: 09 New
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      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      Again "indians"?"

      "Apache Leader" noted, or "Big Snake"? laughing
      1. Aerodrome 31 August 2019 18: 54 New
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        Quote: Piramidon
        Quote: Nikolaevich I
        Again "indians"?"

        "Apache Leader" noted, or "Big Snake"? laughing

        Serpent ... green ...
      2. Nikolaevich I 1 September 2019 03: 00 New
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        I'm sad ... recourse Are such concepts as “irony” and “sarcasm” a curiosity among the “inhabitants” of VO? request
  7. Lipchanin 31 August 2019 17: 08 New
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    According to some reports, the car was piloted Indian Air Force pilots.

    I don’t understand how they got there? request
    1. Grigory_45 1 September 2019 08: 00 New
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      Quote: Lipchanin
      I don’t understand how they got there?

      MiG-35 is offered at an Indian tender. Have you heard? So they gave it to fly, check out the car in the air, so roll it up.
      1. Lipchanin 1 September 2019 08: 02 New
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        Quote: Gregory_45
        So they gave it to fly, check out the car in the air, so roll it up.

        At an air show? There was no other place and time?
        And if what happened?
        1. Grigory_45 1 September 2019 08: 36 New
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          At an air show? There was no other place and time?

          all questions to the organizers.
          From August 27 to 29 - the closed part of the air show, "business days". There are at least strangers there, mostly only interested parties. From August 30 to September 1, MAKS is open for mass visits
        2. Grigory_45 1 September 2019 08: 45 New
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          MOSCOW, Aug 31 - RIA News
          Pilots of the Indian Air Force at the MAKS-2019 air show in Zhukovsky near Moscow made flights on the MiG-35 fighter, the Indian delegation who visited the event also got acquainted with the Su-57E fighter, the Indian television channel NDTV reports.
          "The Indian delegation showed the MiG-35 and Su-57. Test pilots of the Indian Air Force Reddy and Roy got the opportunity to make two sorties on the MiG-35 during the visit," the Indian Air Force quoted the channel as saying.
          According to the channel, Russia may offer India to acquire the MiG-35 fighter during a visit by Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi to Vladivostok at the Eastern Economic Forum (WEF), which will be held next week.
  8. KVU-NSVD 31 August 2019 17: 12 New
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    Some garbage. Flew there or not flew away - technicians on the earth will figure it out, but here about the Indians piloting this MiG is generally ridiculous. The Russians show the technique, and the Indians control it - it smacks of crap from the yellow press
    1. Grits 1 September 2019 00: 45 New
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      smacks of crap from the yellow press

      In. I was not in vain offering the words "fake" to replace "crap"
  9. Nestorovich 31 August 2019 17: 14 New
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    oh well, in aviation this doesn’t happen, but if God forbid it crashed, then another thing.
  10. ODERVIT 31 August 2019 17: 26 New
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    And who didn’t lose something? Operational control, and he is not omnipotent. wink
  11. APASUS 31 August 2019 17: 43 New
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    According to some reports, the Indian Air Force pilots piloted the machine.

    1 MAKS is not a testing ground, there is a flight map, everything is checked up to a degree and a second, suddenly the pilots of India decided to ride?
    2 As I understand it, The Aviationist was smart enough to inflate the scandal from this incident, why wasn’t I smart to post a video of the incident?
  12. Well done 31 August 2019 17: 43 New
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    It is necessary to make a stick to a locksmith at the factory. But maybe Friday was, or some other reason? In general, this is not a piece of casing, but a false target, a trap for aggressor missiles and an obvious glitch for adversary radars laughing
    1. Piramidon 31 August 2019 21: 40 New
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      Quote: Welldone
      It is necessary to make a stick to a locksmith at the factory

      Another "investigator", without taking his ass off the couch, has already found the culprit. How clever you are! negative fool
      1. Well done 31 August 2019 22: 52 New
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        Gee! Yes you are that locksmith! "Is the thief and the hat on?" I will be above your sofa sayings and emoticons off topic. They can ban, sir-locksmith.
  13. Sergei 23 31 August 2019 18: 04 New
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    According to some reports, the pilots of the Indian Air Force- Bullshit piloted the machine (may animal defenders forgive me) !!!
  14. afrikanez 31 August 2019 18: 04 New
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    The main thing is not that it came off the skin, but that the aircraft continued to fly and successfully landed.
  15. Piramidon 31 August 2019 19: 07 New
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    According to some reports, the Indian Air Force pilots piloted the machine.

    This was reported by the American publication The Aviationist, citing its own photojournalists in Zhukovsky near Moscow.

    At the same time, The Aviationist mistakenly calls the aircraft in the published photos a fighter of the 4 ++ generation MiG-35, while in reality it is an upgraded version of the MiG-29 with the M2 index.

    In general, everything is clear with the Yankesobalabol and their media.
  16. Ros 56 31 August 2019 19: 15 New
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    I would like to see the F-35 on such a flight, it would all fall apart. Although of course the thing is unpleasant to be honest. The commission will figure out which FZUshnik so fastened the casing.
    1. Piramidon 31 August 2019 21: 13 New
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      he would all fall apart

      Reliable information, or just had to write something for the sake of the ghostly "pluses"?
      Py.Sy. Do not attribute me to fans of the 35th. But you need to have a conscience and not rattle on the clave "from the bulldozer".
      1. Ros 56 1 September 2019 09: 02 New
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        I argue that the American can not stand such aerobatics.
        1. Piramidon 1 September 2019 11: 39 New
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          I argue that the American can not stand such aerobatics.

          The statement from the category is "because I said so." And the facts on which your statement is based, are there?
          1. Ros 56 1 September 2019 11: 52 New
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            Wing load:
            with maximum take-off weight: 394 kg / m²
            at normal takeoff weight:
            with 63% of fuel: 323,3 kg / m²
            with 100% fuel: 373 kg / m²
            This is about the Su-57,
            and below about the F-35
            Wing load with normal take-off weight 569 kg / m² 520 kg / m² 606 kg / m²
            Wing load with a maximum take-off weight of 744 kg / m² 632 kg / m² 744 kg / m²
            Does this tell you anything?
            Plus, such a thing Su-57 Maximum operational overload: + 10-11 g
            F-35 Maximum operational overload +9 G +7,0 G +7,5 G
            1. Piramidon 1 September 2019 11: 55 New
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              Does this tell you anything

              Only that the F-35 wing was designed for higher loads. But that he should fall apart does not speak.
              1. Ros 56 1 September 2019 12: 03 New
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                As I understand it, you don’t understand a damn thing, this means that with the same wing area the weight of the F-35 is almost two times more, therefore it maneuvers much worse and with the same size of the figures the pilot will fit his ass and the plane will simply fall apart. Learn aerodynamics.
                1. Avior 1 September 2019 14: 08 New
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                  Have you read the beginning of your copy-paste?
                  The following characteristics are partially calculated (assumed) [38] [89] [90] [91].
            2. Piramidon 1 September 2019 11: 59 New
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              Quote: Ros 56
              Plus, such a thing Su-57 Maximum operational overload: + 10-11 g
              F-35 Maximum operational overload +9 G +7,0 G +7,5 G

              What was the overload in this particular flight?
      2. hydrox 1 September 2019 11: 26 New
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        It’s not “from the bulldozer”, it’s an exact and defaming information ordered for the magazine whores, and since these “pen hyenas” will write off - they will get it on their paw (but it would be better if they got it in the face). We are still enemies to them, but even worse, competitors ...
    2. Grigory_45 1 September 2019 08: 03 New
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      Quote: Ros 56
      I would like to see

      the fact that aircraft sometimes lose parts in the air is not an isolated case. On August 2 and July 21 of this year, similar incidents involving the separation of glider skin fragments occurred during demonstration flights on US Air Force F-16 fighter jets in Michigan and at the British Air Force base. However, no one is rolling tantrums on this occasion.
      1. Ros 56 1 September 2019 11: 41 New
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        So am I about the same thing, you have to read it right. hi
  17. Andrey Andrey 31 August 2019 22: 12 New
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    I remember how commentators yelled when they showed a photo of the peeling skin of an American stealth plane. And now suddenly everything is ok. Anything can happen.
  18. Anarchist 2019 31 August 2019 23: 28 New
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    The sad fact. Especially, given that this aircraft was specially prepared for the aerospace show MAKS-2019 for showing and demonstrating flights. What then to say about the "ordinary" aircraft? The quality of aircraft that Sukhoi, that MiG, fell below the plinth!
    1. Temakolchin 31 August 2019 23: 49 New
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      You confuse ordinary planes and planes that perform on the MAX sometimes with huge overloads)
  19. Temakolchin 31 August 2019 23: 39 New
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    Well, the plug was torn off))) the little things ....
  20. UAZ 452 1 September 2019 10: 56 New
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    Well, this episode to some extent indicates the reliability of the structure as a whole: the plane sorted out a little in the air, but continued to fly, as if nothing had happened. This means that, to a certain extent, it can withstand damage from enemy fire. As they say: "And we are flying, on parole and on one wing."
  21. ezdiumno ru 1 September 2019 13: 11 New
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    Oh, these Indians!
    Whatever you give, everyone will break. :)
  22. General failure 1 September 2019 17: 57 New
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    Would fly at supersonic - would raise the entire skin of the wing from this hole and we would have another broken plane and a bunch of questions.
    And so - all is well that ends well.
    The plane is new.

    Remake the skin and everything will be a bunch.
  23. Saint 1 September 2019 18: 18 New
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    If, according to The Aviationist, Mig scattered compliments to the audience on the 29th, and 30 there is a video where he flies to a demonstration with a defect received the day before. Somehow skiing with asphalt did not make friends. Explain who is in the topic.
  24. Sasha Nikitin 1 September 2019 19: 06 New
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    Firstly, The Aviasionist is not an American publication, rather Italian. On their website you can read about the author. The Aviationist is run by David Cenciotti ([email protected]), a journalist based in Rome, Italy, who launched the blog in 2006.

    Secondly, no malice in the text in English is read. It’s not clear why you need to write about this ?!

    By the way, Tom Demerli is a big fan of Soviet and Russian aviation. I recommend that you watch his reports on the Facebook page of The Aviasionist to form your own opinion.
  25. trahterist 1 September 2019 19: 19 New
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    Indians like that all through Jo.
    That trunk of the T-90 tore, now the lining and the MiG fell off ...
  26. seacap 2 September 2019 14: 46 New
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    This extreme degree of unprofessionalism and criminal negligence, if not direct sabotage (this is another story and another competency, and not this discussion area), from the same series of accidents and catastrophes as burning art stores, the death, and maybe even targeted destruction of specialists during testing, experimental and training firing, airborne training, falling missiles and non-working satellites with robots, etc. etc. Risks are not calculated and minimized, instructions for use and MTB are neglected, the requirements of charters and instructions are corny. And most importantly, a sharp drop in the general educational and cultural level of people as a result of endless, but very well thought out and implemented reforms (destruction) of the education and upbringing system, science and culture. These are the results of the mad reduction and destruction of the oldest military schools and academies with their scientific and teaching staff, the destruction of the military scientific school, and the main general reduction of the junior and middle command staff of the regimental and division links, the gap in continuity, traditions and the course of the natural formation of the officer. And also general nepotism, unprofessionalism, blat and corruption, and most importantly sheer irresponsibility for the results of its activities, the lack of jurisdiction and inviolability of our (long ago not ours, according to the late Pole) so-called elite, destroyed all creative and professional activity, replacing it with money, and even it is not ours, but our overseas "partners". It’s a shame before our efficient managers managed before the fact that in 30 years they hadn’t created a single aircraft engine, we fly on foreign planes with the most expensive air tickets in the world, the corn coop is no longer able to “blind”, even Soviet developments aren’t crazy able to bring how a great achievement we celebrate launching a missile boat or a repaired aircraft, a disgrace.