"Mechanical" rennen and other games. Vienna Armory

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Knights and armor. Over time, tournament organizers began to pay more and more attention to their entertainment. So that they would be interesting not only to their participants, but also to the audience. Thus, for example, the “mechanical” rennen appeared - a competition in which, from a successful hit on the tarch, it detached from the cuirass along with many fasteners and all this flew high into the air. For this, a special spring mechanism was installed under the cuirass, connected to the tarch with a pin. This pin passed through the hole in the tarche, and from the outside it was jammed with metal wedges and a washer. Accordingly, there was also a spring under the tarch, which these wedges held in a compressed form. When the spear hit the tarch, he pressed on the spring, the spring was compressed, the wedges were released and he was no longer holding it.

"Mechanical" rennen and other games. Vienna Armory

This photograph here gives at least some idea of ​​that abundance, and you can’t pick up another word, armor and weaponsthat can be seen in the Vienna arsenal. This is only one of the series in which both combat and tournament armor are exhibited. The leftmost one is the armor of Elector Friedrich von der Pfalz, created by the Milanese gunsmiths of the Missal family. In the end - armor for Gestech and Rennes.




Two levers, which were under the tarch, pushed him up with force, and the tarch, as well as the wedges holding it, scattered in different directions. The calculation at the same time was for the audience to see with their own eyes the result of the hit and the “power of the blow”, which would certainly increase the entertainment of the performance. Again, Emperor Maximilian I was a big lover of such a game. He was very amused, as from his strong blow, tarch fragments soared high into the air. Moreover, if the rider participating in this tournament could not "sit out" the blow, that is, fell out of the saddle, then he was suspended from further participation in the tournament.


Rennen. Colorized engraving from the tournament book of Emperor Maximilian I "Freudal". 1512-1515 (Vienna Armory)



Ram strike with a spear. Colorized engraving from the tournament book of Emperor Maximilian I "Freudal". 1512-1515 (Vienna Armory)


Another type of rennen was the "exact" rennen. The rider participating in it wore a rennzeug. Leggings or bracers were almost never used. Shaffron - deaf, without inspection holes. The horse was covered with leather blanket and a cape of bright fabric. Accurate rennen was called because the collisions were carried out at full gallop, that is, the horses rushed towards each other very quickly and considerable skill was required in order to get into the enemy’s tarch.


"Exact rennen." Above the head of the rider, a tharch is shown flying out of the grabs. Illustration from the Tournament Book. Posted by Hans Burgkmayr the Younger (1500 - 1559). Creation time: 1540 g. (State Library of Bavaria, Germany)


However, getting into it was still half the battle. It was necessary to knock the tarch out of the grabs that held him on the cuirass. And if the tharch fell to the ground, its owner was considered defeated. As a rule, armor for the legs was not provided for in this type of tournament; enough of the djelgos were enough.


Dilzhe close-up. (Dresden Armory).


Dilge with corrugation. (Dresden Armory).


But the most dangerous kind of "mechanical" rennen was considered its other form - the Bundrennn. To participate in it, the rennzeug was equipped with a special bib, which was called the Bund. A mechanism was installed on it, arranged so that when the enemy’s spear was successfully hit in the tarch, it threw it up, and it flew high up above the fighter’s head. And not only did it take off, it also scattered into many segments. But since the rider did not have a chin under this tarch, any inaccuracy in the assembly of the mechanism or its operation led to mortal danger. To ensure all this, two guides were mounted on the cuirass, which ran along it until the tournament tournament.


The Bundrennen. Illustration from the Tournament Book. Posted by Hans Burgkmayr the Younger (1500 - 1559). Creation time: 1540 g. (State Library of Bavaria, Germany)


And again, Emperor Maximilian I also spoke in the Bundkiras at the Bundrenn tournament. When the shields were scattered, the courtiers rejoiced, but his participation in such a dangerous competition caused them great concern and caused considerable concern.

The "hard" rennen was the simplest version of the two previous contests. The tarch in it was screwed tightly with one or two screws to the cuirass and did not fly away when hit. The essence of the duel was again to break your spear against the enemy’s tarch and ... that’s all! A knight breaking a spear is declared the winner!


Tournament armor of the Stekhtsoig Maximilian I with a toad head helmet. Augsburg, 1494. It could well be used for the "mixed" rennen!


The "mixed" rennen was specially invented for fun. Two knights participated in the duel, but in different armor. One in Stojtzeig, the other in Rennesoig. The one wearing the shtehtsoig had a crown tip on the spear. Wrapped in Rennsoig is ordinary sharp. Horse equipment was appropriate. The goal of the fight was the same - to break his spear on the enemy’s tarch and in addition to knock him out of the saddle.

For the “field” rennen it was necessary to put on full knightly armor so that everyone would look at them and ... again, break the spear. All the difference is to show yourself clad in polished steel.


The bib frame for fights in the style of a "mechanical" rennen. The mechanism installed on it is clearly visible. But there are no removable parts. The end of the XV century


But the field tournament - it was already a group competition of two squads. That is, everything was exactly the same as in the war. The spear was used combat, not tournament. But the goal was the same - to break the spear. Therefore, knights did not take swords to this tournament with them. However, sometimes the rules stipulated their use. And then, breaking the spear, the tournament participants fought with swords. Dumb, of course, and, apparently, by this time such swords were already made on purpose.


Tournament armor of Archduke Ferdinand II of Tyrol from the so-called "Eagle Headset". The bell skirt was supposed to reliably protect the legs during the foot fight.


Under Emperor Maximilian I, foot tournaments were also very popular, which also required special armor. Moreover, these armors were so expensive that in fact they became the privilege of only the highest nobility - the dukes and kings. To enter such a tournament in cheap armor was simply indecent. But there were also armor for equestrian competitions, which required at least 2-3, then combat armor, then ceremonial armor ... All this led to attempts to somehow reduce the cost of tournament equipment, but so that it did not affect the spectacle of the fight . So there were competitions with a barrier. The fighters went out into the battlefield in battle armor, but their legs were usually not protected with armor, as the battles were separated by a wooden barrier. The fighters performed, divided into two parties, and fought through it, trying to break the spear of their rival. In this case, the spear, as Landsknechts did, should be held with both hands. Each participant in such a tournament was allowed to break from five to six copies. Well, and, of course, the judges made sure no one struck below the waist.


Armor for the foot tournament of Emperor Maximilian II, son of Ferdinand I, 1571


Such tournaments began to be held before the equestrian competitions of the stehn and rennen, in order to give the horse knights the opportunity to prepare their complex equipment for entering the lists. By the middle of the sixteenth century, although there were strong and agile knights who preferred to participate in the stehn and rennen tournaments, and considered them as the only occupation worthy of a knight, an increasing number of representatives of the nobility considered this already as snobbery and preferred foot fights. Do not hesitate to participate in them, demonstrating their luxurious armor to the public, even kings.

The era of the Renaissance was reflected in the tournament art. The Italians did not like the heavy armor for the German tournament, and they were reluctant to follow this northern knightly fashion. Eventually, tournaments according to Italian rules became fashionable. For example, already in the middle of the 16th century, two types became popular: a free tournament, or a “free” rennen, for which ordinary combat armor with only some additional protective elements was used.


Additional protective parts for the "free" rennen.


For the duel through the barrier, as already reported here, the shtehtsoig was first used. But gradually it was replaced by lightweight Italian armor, in shape approaching military. Around the 1550 year, the armor for this “new” duel through the barrier differed from the combat armor only with a new helmet, only slightly resembling the old “toad head”.


New armor for the duel through the barrier approx. 1550


German noblemen, spectators and participants in Italian tournaments gradually abandoned heavy German equipment and increasingly used ordinary military armor equipped with various additional protective parts.

These new armor could be used both in a free tournament and in a duel through a barrier. Thus, considerable savings were achieved, so it is not surprising that they were also most widely used in Germany. Now this armor had nothing to do with the former shtehtsoig. The knight's head was protected by a burgundy helmet arme. Moreover, the tournament helmet was distinguished from the combat helmet by a left-sided reinforcement. A steel German stekhtarch, a little curved from below, was screwed to the left shoulder of the armor. Such patch guards were known before. But then they were smooth so that the tip of the spear slid off them. The new plate was distinguished by a thick diamond-shaped lattice of steel bars. The crown tip of the spear on such a plate could no longer slide, but this is exactly what the creators of the armor sought. Now the blow had to be “sat out" and stay in the saddle at all costs!


Armor equipped with a shtehtarch with a grill.


Another important element of the new protective equipment was the brace of a sconce with plate gloves (and the left arm was especially good!) And movable leg gaiters.

In the second half of the 16th century, a mixed version of tournament armor came into vogue at the courts of Saxon nobility: a cross between Sttechzeig and Rennzoig. The helmet is the same tournament salad. However, he was attached to the cuirass at the back with the help of a special bracket, which did not allow him to be thrown off his head with a spear strike. For some time, such armor was apparently very popular, and they are called just that - “Saxon tournament armor”. But by the 1590 year, they had gone out of fashion, the battles of two knightly units imitating a battle were practiced even at the beginning of the 17th century.


Tharch 1575 for tournaments in combat armor; the surface is decorated with etched blackened and patterned gold in the cells of the rhombic lattice. Germany. OK. 1550. The scene depicts the exploits of Hercules - the struggle with the Nemean lion, the Lernean hydra and Cerberus. Here, in addition, Leda with a swan and ... a knight of the 16th century are depicted. The picture is supplemented with the image of trophies - weapons and musical instruments. Manufacturer Anton Peffenhauser (circa 1525 - 1603, Augsburg)


The author and the administration of the site express their heartfelt gratitude to the curators of the Vienna Armory, Ilse Jung and Florian Kugler for the opportunity to use her photographs.
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  1. +3
    15 September 2019 05: 47
    Around the 1550 year, the armor for this “new” duel through the barrier differed from the combat armor only with a new helmet, only slightly resembling the old “toad head”.

    Um ...
    “There was a moment in the evolution of armor in the fourteenth century, when representatives of the heavy cavalry wore two helmets. The big tophelm was on the head during the first powerful attack, but then, when the rider crashed into the ranks of the enemy, he dumped this bucket, remaining in the best-seeing cerveriere. Reconstructors argued over whether tophelm was tied to armor or not. Like, if you tie it, then a ram blow to the head will knock it out of the saddle, which is dangerous, but what will happen if you do not tie it? Our checked. It turned out that an untethered tophelm with a direct hit by a spear with a bullet flies off his head (a person does not even have time to understand what happened), while the knight remains in the saddle, and the enemy can lose a spear if it gets stuck in the viewing gap ...
    So, Arne Coats 15 once broke his wrist before he found out that the medieval horsemen did not hold the entire weight of the spear with their hand, but fastened it to the armor.
    https://mhealth.ru/life/knowledge/dorogo-eto-i-opasno-vsya-pravda-o-samom-zhestkom-rycarskom-turnire/
  2. +3
    15 September 2019 07: 15
    Two levers, which were under the tarch, pushed him up with force, and the tarch, as well as the wedges holding it, scattered in different directions. The calculation at the same time was for the public to see with their own eyes the result of the hit and the “force of impact”

    And then they loved "special effects" ...
    The bib frame for fights in the style of a "mechanical" rennen. The mechanism installed on it is clearly visible. But there are no removable parts. The end of the XV century


    I wonder why two ... wheels are mounted on it? :Transportation? recourse
    1. +5
      15 September 2019 07: 36
      two wheels? :Transportation?
      ,, squires his master transported lol ,,, bolts and nuts were already ?, how did they do the thread request
      1. +1
        15 September 2019 08: 01
        Quote: bubalik
        , the squires of his master transported

        Muzzle, um, on asphalt (wheels on the bib) belay

        Seriously, this is probably part of the rennen mechanism mentioned.
        1. +6
          15 September 2019 08: 03
          Muzzle, um, on the pavement
          ,,, so in the helmet laughing
          1. +4
            15 September 2019 13: 42
            ,,, so in the helmet


            Sergey, is it much nicer? To crash on the "asphalt" with a running start, and even with all the weight of the iron that is loaded on you ... I would not want to. hi
            1. +5
              15 September 2019 13: 44
              hi ,,, I’m still wondering why the wheels sad . Maybe Vyacheslav Olegovich tell? recourse
              1. +5
                15 September 2019 13: 47
                Yes. After all, there is a horse in nature, so why does it need another wheel? Type - kicked out of the saddle, so also ride on the belly? laughing
              2. +5
                15 September 2019 14: 04
                A tarch rolled over them - everything is simple!
                1. +5
                  15 September 2019 14: 18
                  kalibr
                  Today, 15: 04
                  Thank you hi
  3. +2
    15 September 2019 07: 56
    Interesting Facts. did not know about such things of ancient show business good
    it was necessary to scatter the liver, blood and other intestines under the plates am
    1. +4
      15 September 2019 15: 20
      Hm! And this is in the 15-16 centuries! One-armed bandit - resting !!!
    2. +3
      15 September 2019 17: 09
      Quote: Tlauicol
      I still had to scatter the liver, blood and other guts

      "Blood, Guts, Anarchy" laughing
      I imagine a platform with beautiful ladies, hung with serpentine in the form of pig (and whose else?) Intestines. It's funny
      I don’t understand what: what for such strains for knights, such costs for some mechanisms and all sorts of other perversions? It was possible to spend a damned cloud of guilders, thalers or piastres only in one case - if you expect to get more later. Well, let’s say, among the participants in such entertainments were people who never counted money - kings, dukes and other noble brethren, but why should ordinary knights?
      1. +4
        15 September 2019 17: 24
        Ponty is more expensive than money! laughing
        For ordinary soldiers (so that they did not cry), local tournaments were organized. With a smaller budget and stricter rules. For if all the small-sized rubbish comes out in tournaments, who will fight?!?!
  4. +7
    15 September 2019 13: 39
    Tournament armor of the Stekhtsoig Maximilian I with a toad head helmet. Augsburg, 1494. It could well be used for the "mixed" rennen!


    We had a similar armor in our department, and at first glance I was struck by its "monstrous thickness", not less than one centimeter on the "face".

    Thanks to Vyacheslav hi . I’m hearing about rennin for the first time. Well, after all, I myself worked in a museum, but I don’t know a damn thing, though I was interested in and dealt with much later products.
  5. +5
    15 September 2019 13: 54
    Interesting nuances. Cool!
  6. +4
    15 September 2019 14: 06
    A tarch rolled over them as it slid up.
  7. +3
    15 September 2019 14: 07
    Quote: bubalik
    how did they do the thread

    Tap
    1. +3
      15 September 2019 16: 47
      Good answer!
      However, in addition to taps, there should also be lehrs for external threads, and the kits should be mutually consistent. I think such precision tool kits were a family value and were passed down from generation to generation.
      And further. Tournament headsets cost, of course, crazy money, but how much then did the craftsmen who made such an instrument earned ?!
      1. +4
        15 September 2019 16: 54
        ,,, and rubbed little hands wassat when the armor of the knights flew apart, and the tournament was not over yet. The knight dragged the armor and offered a lot of money for repairs Yes maybe recourse put a sword to his throat crying
        1. +3
          15 September 2019 17: 09
          No, Sergei, not like that. "Sweaty little hands, boiled over from the possibility of easy money" !!! laughing
          As for the sword at the throat ...
          "Messire, your family blade has already been laid, re-laid, even I have a bill of exchange. Hey Ettore, Vincense, Michele, who else is there ....! Throw this rogue out of a decent institution!" good
          1. +2
            15 September 2019 19: 37
            ,,, tinsmith's day laughing
            1. +2
              15 September 2019 19: 39
              Bravo, Sergey !!! good
          2. +2
            16 September 2019 11: 14
            "Sweaty little hands, boiled over from the possibility of easy money" !!!

            Anton, it remains only to Karl Marx to quote about the percentage of profit and any crime laughing drinks
      2. +7
        15 September 2019 17: 57
        There was no lera then. And there were no sets. And there were no standards for threads. Each screw-nut pair was handmade and unique. There was no interchangeability.
        1. +3
          15 September 2019 19: 12
          The fact that there were no standards is understandable, they were not there 20 years ago.
          1. +5
            15 September 2019 19: 40
            Since 1947, the threads have been standardized on a "world" scale and it became possible to screw the American nut onto a Soviet screw.
            And before that, of course, there was diversity. For example, in Germany at the end of the 11th century there were 274 carving systems with XNUMX varieties.
            1. +3
              15 September 2019 19: 47
              To standardize, standardized, only technical documentation was not combined. Otherwise, my father, 10 years ago, he wouldn’t have steamed translating DINs into state standards, and vice versa
              1. +5
                15 September 2019 20: 00
                I'm not talking about that. By "standardized" I meant that all over the world they began to make threads in the same dimensions. That is, if it is a metric thread, then all over the world its profile is an equilateral triangle (an apex angle of 60 °) with a theoretical profile height H = 0,866025404P (P - step), respectively, the outer, inner and average diameters are determined according to common criteria and match.
                And the fact that in different standards the thread is designated differently is the cost of historical development. It will gradually settle down.
                Back in the distant seventies in the USSR and the CMEA countries, they began to develop a unified system of design documentation. But before the collapse of the Soviet Union, they did not completely switch to it.
    2. +7
      15 September 2019 16: 57
      They made threads by hand, each screw and nut were individually adjusted and were not interchangeable.
      1. +2
        15 September 2019 17: 32
        Ay, damn it! Loch I am "I am"!
        Victor Nikolaevich! You write at least a couple of paragraphs about the then "locksmith"! Oh please!
        1. +3
          15 September 2019 17: 47
          ,,, woo good and then a knight, knight. The master doesn’t put the bolt either or not and roll the knight from the lists towards the churchyard ,,, on wheels belay
        2. +5
          15 September 2019 17: 55
          About the then locksmith in a couple of paragraphs do not fit.
          1. +3
            15 September 2019 18: 19
            Quote: Undecim
            About the then locksmith in a couple of paragraphs do not fit.

            Well, we guess, but? Perhaps Viktor Nikolaevich you will be led, there is a paragraph, there is a comment, here is an article, and - you can cut the cycle from under your pen! feel
          2. +4
            15 September 2019 18: 36
            A couple of lines, is it certainly better ??? Do not take my bread, Viktor Nikolaevich!
  8. +4
    15 September 2019 14: 20
    There will be an article about the arsenal at the Doge's Palace in Venice. There is the same helmet STILL AFTER, the details are STILL THICKER !!!
    1. +3
      15 September 2019 15: 21
      Quote: kalibr
      There will be an article about the arsenal at the Doge's Palace in Venice. There is the same helmet STILL AFTER, the details are STILL THICKER !!!

      Do you want to live and you’ll get on yourself !!!
      1. +4
        15 September 2019 16: 50
        Nevertheless, this is not about the battle, but about the tournament.
        And then: "" Turners "came up with panties !!!" laughing negative
        1. +4
          15 September 2019 18: 03
          Damn Anton! At full gallop with a spear in the "face" !!! I would still tie a brick in front !!! And do not care that it can be stupid !!! This is not a spear, but a log from half a pound and more !!! And even that soft pine wood was used instead of ash, it definitely does not add optimism !!! So a centimeter of iron is the very thing !!!!!!
          By the way, the Sphere helmet is about somewhere of the same thickness, albeit not iron, but (ellipsis)!
          Although the presented options for tournament armor without the lower part (pants) are also annoying? And if the horse stumbled and a spear there? Was the codpiece also at least a centimeter?
          Wrong brick too! So it will be more reliable !!!
          Good evening to all, Your Vlad!
          1. +4
            15 September 2019 19: 04
            Centuries later, the English knights came up with the "tank" ...
            And if at least someone now remembers Jamaica ... am
            1. +3
              16 September 2019 11: 17
              And if at least someone now remembers Jamaica ...

              I will not remember. wink I am closer to the brave Murat on a horse with feathers than a Sherman on the beach. laughing although the offer of joint drinking more than impressed! drinks
      2. +4
        15 September 2019 16: 59
        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
        Do you want to live and you’ll get on yourself !!!

        I somehow built chain mail. From the growers. Well, I put it on, and the same thing ... In general, the chain mail was heavy.
        1. +5
          15 September 2019 17: 08
          and that ...
          hi raised by a crane laughing ?
          1. +4
            15 September 2019 18: 06
            Good chainmail from engravers does not penetrate a bullet from PM!
            Experimented feel
            1. +3
              15 September 2019 18: 47
              Does she get stuck in her?
              1. +3
                15 September 2019 20: 34
                No Anton, we shot at a canvas of small engravers hung on a fence (picket fence). The bullet is deformed. Only lead spray penetrates the rings!
                Even better, the bullet is kept by a class 1 armor (the name is forgotten) from large rings (a kind of medieval bandana). A bunch of rings (washers) is crushed - a bullet in a cake! Only if chain mail is worn on the body, the bones will break anyway! Even in a sweatshirt!
      3. +2
        15 September 2019 22: 33
        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
        Do you want to live and you’ll get on yourself !!!
        The main thing is not to look in the mirror. And how many opponents will pile in pants - these are his problems!
  9. +4
    15 September 2019 15: 57
    Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
    Do you want to live and you’ll get on yourself !!!

    That's it!
    1. +3
      15 September 2019 18: 08
      Yab also tied a pillow to the tail, but I'm afraid the ladies will laugh !!!
      In the pillows lay down the military field !!! Though? belay
      1. +4
        15 September 2019 19: 08
        Yes, there, by the middle of the tournament, the horses covered the field with “pillows”.
        1. +3
          15 September 2019 20: 38
          Anto Anton- My friend is fine! Washed a car yesterday! Today leaving the garage - found a mine! And so every time! A miner with an udder walks past every past day ..... wassat
  10. +6
    15 September 2019 19: 04
    Thus, for example, the “mechanical” rennen appeared - a competition in which, from a successful hit on the tarch, it detached from the cuirass along with many fasteners and all this flew high into the air. For this, a special spring mechanism was installed under the cuirass, connected to the tarch with a pin. This pin passed through the hole in the tarche, and from the outside it was jammed with metal wedges and a washer. Accordingly, there was also a spring under the tarch, which these wedges held in a compressed form. When the spear hit the tarch, he pressed on the spring, the spring was compressed, the wedges were released and he was no longer holding it.
    Here you, Vyacheslav Olegovich, were somewhat mistaken, mixing in one description two varieties of "mechanical" rennen, or, in German - Geschifttartschenrennen.
    The first is Geschifttartschenrennen with tarche. In this case, the tarch had a special design and consisted of several segments assembled on a steel disk connected to the lever mechanism by means of a pin.
    With a successful hit, the mechanism worked, the tarch flew over the rider's head, the segments flew in different directions. Of course, no one threw fasteners in different directions, especially considering their cost. In Beheim's Russian translation, the phrase "with a lot of metal fasteners" is obviously a translator's mistake, you need to check the original.
    In the "Tournament Book" you mentioned or The Triumphs of Maximilian it looks like this.

    Breastplates with such a mechanism were not preserved.
    1. +5
      15 September 2019 19: 33
      And the illustration that you have signed as "Accurate Rennen." Above the rider's head is shown a tarch flying out of grabs. Illustration from the "Book of Tournaments." Author: Hans Burgkmair the Younger (1500 - 1559). Time of creation: 1540 ( State Library of Bavaria, Germany) "is a variation of the Geschiftscheibenrennen with a chest target. In this case, the mechanism was similar, but instead of the tarch, a special breast piece of the cuirass was attached, arranged similarly to the tarch described above. This is clearly seen in the illustration - a chest target flies upward, from which specially provided segments are separated from it.

      I have not been in Vienna for a long time, but once upon a time in the Hofjagd- und Rüstkammer there was such a showcase. On the left is the cuirass for the Geschiftscheibenrennen with a chest target, and on the right is for the Bundrennen. Both belonged to Emperor Maximilian I.
      1. +6
        15 September 2019 21: 22
        In the French "Livre Dictionnaire raisonné du mobilier français de l'époque" on page 399 (I would translate - "French explanatory dictionary from the Carolingian era to the Renaissance"), apparently, there is a cuirass for Geschiftscheibenrennen with a chest target with a description of the components.

        Alas, French is too much for me.
        1. +3
          16 September 2019 11: 20
          Alas, French is too much for me.

          Yeah, it's even weird. wink Monsignor Davout, have you crushed everyone with your intellect corps, but haven’t mastered French? lol paradox! fellow
          1. +4
            16 September 2019 11: 26
            Of the approximately forty most common languages, I mastered four at a stretch. To master the French case was not, or rather - forcing circumstances to this.
            1. +3
              16 September 2019 11: 32
              Of the approximately forty most common languages, I mastered four at a stretch.

              Reminds: "In Spanish I speak to God, in Italian with women, in French with men, in German with my horses." (Charles V). What a pity they didn’t master it! wink
              To master the French case was not, or rather - forcing circumstances to this.

              I only remembered English on Zakynthos in a small volume, to explain myself with something more than gestures! laughing but enough for me!
              1. +3
                16 September 2019 11: 35
                The staff at the resorts understands any language of any level of proficiency.
                1. +3
                  16 September 2019 11: 41
                  The staff at the resorts understands any language of any level of proficiency.

                  not always. hi The Dominican Republic did not understand, except for English. On Zakynthos, the managers speak English. But the cleaners and laborers, it seems, did not even understand Greek proper - there Bulgarians and Albanians are engaged in similar work, as I understand it. hi
  11. +5
    15 September 2019 20: 44
    Here is a review !!! good Even in Czechoslovakia during tours in the castles I saw a lot of armor, but I didn’t meet such tournament mechanisms there, and the device is very memorable for its unusualness.
  12. +4
    16 September 2019 03: 10
    You can hang in the museum for many hours ... Checked personally.

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