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In the Russian Armed Forces began to arrive a new pistol "Boa"

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A new Russian-made Udav pistol began to enter the troops. About this in an interview with the TV channel "Russia-24"Said a representative of the state corporation" Rostec ".




Promising pistol "Boa", designed to replace the Makarov pistol in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, began to be delivered to the army. Information about this was voiced by the industrial director of the state corporation Rostec Sergey Abramov.

We have already passed state tests, we are supplying troops.

- Abaramov described the situation, talking about the new weapons. The Rostec official emphasized that the designer of Udava, Ivan Kozlov, is only 26 years old.

A new gun was created in TSNIITOCHMASH. Prior to this, the Izhevsk Mechanical Plant tried to introduce a PM replacement - at the enterprise, as part of the Grach project, they developed a Yarygin pistol (ПЯ), and the Kalashnikov concern - the company in 2017 introduced the Lebedev pistol (PL). PJ began to enter the troops in the 2011 year, however, due to production problems, it established itself as an unreliable weapon. In the Armed Forces, the main pistol is PM.

The general public information about the development of "Boa" was first voiced at the exhibition "Innovation Day of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation" in October 2015. Prior to this, TSNIITOCHMASH gained serious experience in the development of short-barreled weapons, creating a pistol for special units of Gyurza.


Gun "Gyurza"


"Gyurza" is capable of piercing all types of light bulletproof vests, it was adapted for hidden wearing due to the streamlined shape of the parts. It uses a double fuse. One of them, a whisper lock, is located on the back of the handle, the second on the trigger. The new gun was developed taking into account the experience.

Non-metallic materials are widely used in the gun


In a note TASSdedicated to "Boa", it is noted that non-metallic materials are widely used in promising weapons. Its caliber is 9x21 mm, length is 206 mm, height is 145 mm, width is 36 mm.

The pistol uses a polymer frame made of modern composite materials that allow you to work effectively with weapons at temperatures from - 50 to + 70 degrees Celsius: the problem of working at low temperatures often plagued pistols with an abundance of non-metallic parts.


Promising pistol "Boa" with LTSU and PBS


The "boa constrictor" is equipped with a double-action trigger mechanism. It is assumed that it will be released in two versions - The Udava uses SP-10 / 11 ammunition, including armor-piercing and an expansive bullet. These cartridges are also the main cartridges for the Gyurza. Two versions of the pistol will be developed - the regular and the special, the special one will be equipped with a muzzle thread for a silent firing device (silencer, PBS).

Picatinny rails are integrated on the pistol; they allow you to install laser target designators and tactical lights on the weapon. TASS, quoting the representatives of the plant, notes that for Udava combined day-and-night infrared combined centers were specially developed.

In unloaded form, the mass of the pistol is 780 g, in unladen - 980 g. The capacity of the Udava store is 18 cartridges. It is worth noting that two of the latest ammunition of the caliber 9x21 mm were specially developed for this gun. One of them, subsonic, can be used with PBS, the second has increased penetration. Target hit range - up to 100 m.
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  1. Ravil_Asnafovich
    Ravil_Asnafovich 30 August 2019 15: 59
    +3
    It would be nice if the old PM had to look for a replacement for a long time.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 30 August 2019 16: 59
      +8
      Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich
      It would be nice if the old PM had to look for a replacement for a long time.

      For me, a wonderful replacement for PMU would be -OZ-27 Berdysh. The great Stechkin created wonderful cars.
    2. Kontrik
      Kontrik 30 August 2019 17: 46
      +3
      Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich
      It would be nice if the old PM had to look for a replacement for a long time.

      Of course you need to change, all the same year ..
      The old man PM served fame!
      Here I read one memory .. There about a killer from the 90s, he respected PM very much!
      Compact, reliable, does not give ricochets .. And it’s convenient to hide for a long time! Like then he pulled out it is rusty, rubbed with an emery cloth, no rags and no need to check. It will shoot, this is a melee weapon. hi
    3. Ingenegr
      Ingenegr 30 August 2019 18: 16
      +2
      And what is the "old man" not satisfied with?
      1. Severok
        Severok 30 August 2019 21: 21
        +4
        Apparently the bullet's piercing ability, magazine capacity, the ability to cut loot when introduced into the troops.
        For me, the sense of bothering with the 9x21 cartridge at a time when there is a 7H21 cartridge and its modifications of size 9x19 is so incomprehensible. Moreover, the standard size of the cartridge allows you to use a cheap Barnaul cartridge 9x19 with a shell bullet for firing practice.

        I absolutely do not understand why it is impossible to bring the PY to such a condition in which it will provide a trouble-free shot at 10 thousand shots. I don’t understand the mouse fuss with an army pistol absolutely and completely, a policy has clearly intervened here, which may subsequently lead to the blood of our soldiers and officers being spilled in vain.
  2. Maz
    Maz 30 August 2019 16: 00
    +3
    leapfrog, well, God forbid, a good gun will be in the army and the Ministry of Internal Affairs
    1. Sergei 777
      Sergei 777 30 August 2019 16: 05
      +3
      PM is of course legendary ..... But its characteristics are already outdated. The main thing is that this gun does not repeat the fate of Yarygin.
      1. Ingenegr
        Ingenegr 31 August 2019 00: 52
        0
        The PM has quite sufficient characteristics. The mantra about "outdated and does not correspond to modern requirements" was launched by bad heads in their time. In fact, the PM is relevant precisely as a massive army pistol now. For most law enforcement officials, it is even more relevant.
  3. Azazelo
    Azazelo 30 August 2019 16: 05
    +15
    Again, this idiocy about replacing PM .... THESE ARE DIFFERENT pistols for different tasks .... how did you already zadolbal people brains to compost.
    1. vladcub
      vladcub 30 August 2019 18: 43
      +4
      In fact, when creating the PM then the task was: to develop a compact and reliable pistol for replacing the TT.
      There is no official version that L.P. Beria was fascinated by Walter PPK insisted on PM. I heard it on TV
  4. AUL
    AUL 30 August 2019 16: 05
    +4
    How many times have they already written about the adoption of new pistols, and PM’s grandfather still serves! In the meantime, stamp the required number of 9x21, and the Boa will have time to become obsolete!
  5. Strashila
    Strashila 30 August 2019 16: 07
    +14
    Everyone knows what the cat does, when not what to do. So our officials have been trying for the third decade to replace the Makarov pistol. Moreover, all new samples are compared with Glock.
    Total...
    the analysis conducted by the ASA places considerable emphasis on PM, the pistol, which in our country is considered obsolete and to which the Russian military and police are intensely seeking a replacement.
    The conclusions of American experts on the "old Makarov" were quite unexpected and, frankly, shocking, especially when you consider that they compared it to one of the most popular models in the world - with a Glock 17 pistol chambered for 9x19, standardized for NATO.
    Experts habitually paid tribute to the highest reliability of the PM (it is well known, and no one argues with this), noting that by this characteristic it surpasses Glock, which is also one of the most reliable pistols in the world.
    But the most unexpected was the conclusion about the advantage of the Makarovsky cartridge 9x18 over the more powerful cartridge 9x19 Steam. Tests have shown that in most cases, his bullet remains in the "body of the criminal", providing the maximum stopping effect, while 9x19 cartridge bullets pierce it through, as a result, a significant part of the energy is lost. Thus, to achieve the same effect, the police, armed with Glock17 (especially popular among US law enforcement officers), they are forced to make 2-3 extra shots, which significantly reduces the chances of the criminal to stay alive.
    The large capacity of Glock’s store and most of the other pistols of the American military and police, which, according to researchers, “provoke” them to conduct “heavy fire”, also got.
    ASA experts also found it quite reasonable to use the PM as an army pistol, which, by definition, is more likely an auxiliary weapon or a "last chance". In this sense, its compactness, low weight and reliability are beyond competition.
    The Americans also appreciated the Makarov pistol modernization - PMM, as a result of which the magazine's capacity was increased to 12 rounds, and the opportunity appeared to use high-pulse cartridges. In their opinion, the PMM can remain in the arsenal of the army and the police for many years, allowing it to successfully solve most problems.
    Moreover, ASA strongly recommends starting in the USA the development and production of a completely new pistol for a cartridge with characteristics similar to a 9x18 mm cartridge.
    As a result, they ran into a poor penetration of bulletproof vests at the old PM, although the nomenclature of his ammunition was the widest.
    1. yehat
      yehat 30 August 2019 16: 37
      0
      I personally have a claim to Makarov, but all secondary
      normal but not the best ergonomics
      average quality of products, especially the barrel
      a holster could be better
      and lastly, it is necessary to somehow improve the capabilities of accurate shooting, offhand shooting at distances of about 30-35 meters.
      they are rather small.
      1. Strashila
        Strashila 30 August 2019 16: 44
        +8
        "And the last thing - we need to somehow improve the capabilities of accurate shooting, throw-up shooting", I have a friend, when he was serving in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, he got into the last set of the USSR special school training. There they taught to really shoot from any position in any conditions. So it's not about the pistol, but about the practice of its use, by every employee and soldier, there are enough subtleties. And it is important to have intelligent mentors in this matter.
      2. bistrov.
        bistrov. 30 August 2019 16: 54
        +7
        Quote: yehat
        average quality of products, especially the barrel

        This, you see, is why the Makarov barrels, designed for 5 thousand shots, can withstand up to 10 thousand, and even after that they continue to shoot and hit?
      3. polar fox
        polar fox 30 August 2019 16: 59
        +4
        Quote: yehat
        and lastly, it is necessary to somehow improve the capabilities of accurate shooting, offhand shooting at distances of about 30-35 meters.
        they are rather small.

        contact with the gun is 10-15 meters. There is no further sense. Makar will stop EVERYTHING. It will stop it rather than make holes like the same PSM.
    2. Ingenegr
      Ingenegr 30 August 2019 18: 29
      +4
      I support mainly, dear!
      Regarding the penetrative effect of bullets of cartridges 57-N-181C - yes, not enough for the goals protected by SIBZ. But no one bothers to produce and use 7N25 cartridges created according to the same ideology as the 9x19 mm 7N31 ammunition - a light bullet + high initial speed. Specifically for 7H25, these parameters are 3.6 g and 470 ... 490 m / s. Energy and recoil momentum correspond to the standard 57-Н-181С.
      In general, the topic "PM and others" is very interesting and multifaceted, deserves a separate large article.
      You can think about it if there is a keen interest among the regulars of this site.
    3. vladcub
      vladcub 30 August 2019 18: 52
      +3
      In fact, according to the Glock developers, their pistol is designed for 4000 shots without cleaning the gun, and what other gun can boast of this
      1. Strashila
        Strashila 30 August 2019 19: 22
        +6
        they wrote the same thing about M-16 until she got to the war.
      2. Ingenegr
        Ingenegr 31 August 2019 00: 56
        +2
        4000 without cleaning ... Dear, here everything is already for sure large. Maybe we’ll stop believing in fairy tales?
  6. Prokhorov
    Prokhorov 30 August 2019 16: 08
    +1
    Russia has entered how many roads of China.
    There, too, every provincial leader lobbies in Beijing for "his" weapon.
    As a result, in the arsenal of pieces 5 only machine guns for different calibers, pieces of 10 pistols, and pieces of 7 tanks with different guns. Okay, at least they saved one solarium ...
    If there is some kind of mess - the army will be supplied, too, according to the "provincial" principle, and disintegration will begin again, and the civil war, which we saw throughout the first half of the twentieth century.
    Would you like in China then? Learn from their mistakes if you don't want to!
    1. vladcub
      vladcub 30 August 2019 18: 59
      +2
      Have you confused the time? In China before 1947, virtually every general considered himself: "the navel of the earth" and therefore that period is called: "the era of militarism"
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      2. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 30 August 2019 20: 52
        0
        Hey Slav, your email doesn’t work either. Returns emails ...

        Sorry for the offtopic friends ... :)
  7. prodi
    prodi 30 August 2019 16: 11
    0
    why didn’t Serdyukovsky come in? Because of the stupid fuses?
  8. Nycomed
    Nycomed 30 August 2019 16: 15
    -5
    Somehow, the opposite is true. How many I read and watched different films about small arms: first - the cartridge, and then, already under the cartridge, the "barrel" is being developed. A striking example of this is the Fedorov assault rifle. They did not develop a cartridge for it, and Fedorov used the Japanese "Arisaka" cartridge.
    1. Dart
      Dart 30 August 2019 20: 30
      +4
      You are mistaken ... Fedorov also developed ammunition for his product, but he did not go into production, the time was like that. Not too .. Arisaka is a forced decision.
      1. Nycomed
        Nycomed 30 August 2019 20: 52
        0
        Design and put on stream are two different things.
  9. storm
    storm 30 August 2019 16: 32
    -8
    PM - Makarov pistol, but why is this "Boa constrictor", and not PK (Kozlov pistol),
    for the Ministry of Internal Affairs the most that ((:
    1. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 30 August 2019 17: 28
      +10
      Quote: assault
      why "Boa constrictor" and not a PC (Kozlov pistol),
      for the Ministry of Internal Affairs the most that ((:

      My father-in-law always says, "I wonder where such 'tough guys' run when they are piled high in the doorway, take the car away, take everything out of the apartment, or, God forbid, pick up a girlfriend's skirt? Maybe in the OSCE or to the nearest thief in law?" ...
  10. seregin-s1
    seregin-s1 30 August 2019 16: 42
    +1
    The first batch of new Russian Udav pistols was delivered to the military, said Albert Bakov, director general of the Central Research Institute for Precision Engineering (part of Rostec). June 12, 2019
  11. Ros 56
    Ros 56 30 August 2019 16: 44
    -1
    In 10-15 years, the army may be re-equipped. (Julitta is traveling, someday she will be. Russian folk proverb)
  12. yehat
    yehat 30 August 2019 16: 54
    0
    Quote: Prokhorov
    As a result, in the arsenal of pieces 5 only machine guns for different calibers, pieces of 10 pistols, and pieces of 7 tanks with different guns

    Yes, not everything is so tough there. take a Chinese bullpup - it was the latest fashionable thing - it was sent to Hong Kong for a show, but the machine didn’t go very well, and it turned out that it was mostly there. And many stories are similar in essence. That territorial division, which is, did not work out as you say
  13. yehat
    yehat 30 August 2019 16: 56
    -2
    Quote: bistrov.
    even after that they continue to shoot and hit?

    you know. so it is possible to make 50 thousand shots from a twisted antenna, adapted for the barrel of small things. The question is not in quantity, but in quality.
  14. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 30 August 2019 17: 15
    0
    The mighty pistol! The real army. Sighting range of 100 m, and penetrates body armor ... I remember that we still have PP for this cartridge, also powerful.
    1. Ingenegr
      Ingenegr 31 August 2019 01: 07
      +1
      The real army. Sighting range of 100 m, and penetrates body armor ...

      And what kind of vest does he pierce and with what particular cartridge? SP11? Or SP12? Or maybe SP10? And the BZ "Defender" from "Fort-Tekhnologiya" sews from 10 meters or has a rest? After all, in the 5th grade in the base, eh? In general, I always believed that vests of the 2nd and higher protection classes (according to the old GOST 50744-95) are more convenient to beat from a machine gun and a machine gun. And in the army of vests below the 3rd class - the cat cried.
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 31 August 2019 01: 11
        0
        Quote: Ingenegr
        And what kind of vest does he pierce and with what particular cartridge? SP11? Or SP12? Or maybe SP10? And the BZ "Defender" from "Fort-Tekhnologiya" sews from 10 meters or has a rest? After all, in the 5th grade in the base, eh? In general, I always believed that vests of the 2nd and higher protection classes (according to the old GOST 50744-95) are more convenient to beat from a machine gun and a machine gun. And in the army of vests below the 3rd class - the cat cried.

        The boa constrictor is the heir of Vector. By cartridge, and power. And Vector at one time was banned for sale in the United States, since he pierced all the body armor of the police and the National Guard. You cannot find data on Boa, but I advise you to look at "Gyurza". hi
        1. Ingenegr
          Ingenegr 31 August 2019 01: 27
          +1
          At that time, the only 9x21 ammunition was the SP10 cartridge with an armor-piercing bullet. Civilian circulation of such ammunition is prohibited in the United States. Cartridge SP11 with a shell bullet with a lead core was born much later, closer to the end of the "zero" years. This one is no longer so scary for "all body armor of the police and the National Guard." Nevertheless, the "Vector" does not arouse interest even with this cartridge among American shooters. By the way, in vain.
  15. Denimax
    Denimax 30 August 2019 17: 26
    0
    Why not give every police officer and professional military an opportunity to buy a gun to his taste. It can only be limited by the type of cartridge, although not necessarily. IMHO
    1. Ingenegr
      Ingenegr 30 August 2019 18: 37
      +4
      This is a crazy idea. I apologize for the harshness, but this is really absolute nonsense for any agency STRUCTURALLY having many units in its composition.
  16. sledak
    sledak 30 August 2019 18: 18
    +2
    Quote: Denimax
    Why not give every police officer and professional military an opportunity to buy a gun to his taste. It can only be limited by the type of cartridge, although not necessarily. IMHO

    Because fire training is not even that every month: 4 shots at a chest target, 2 sets in 12 seconds (I don't remember which exercise). It's not about SOBR and other specialists, but about the same operatives / local and teaching staff. This is just so that people are not afraid of the sound of their own shot and can distinguish a shot from the clap of a festive firecracker. With this approach, you get used to "your" trunk, if you can call it that, for more than one year. So there is no question that everyone would buy something for themselves or simply be assigned to a convenient, understandable and familiar barrel.
  17. ssergey1978
    ssergey1978 30 August 2019 18: 27
    +9
    Advantages of PM in weight, dimensions and reliability. Bullet PM up to 15 meters is not very different in striking effect from 9x19. The disadvantage is the relatively small capacity of the store (debatable) and the not very convenient removal of the store. My opinion is a good gun and age is not a hindrance.
  18. Zeev Zeev
    Zeev Zeev 30 August 2019 18: 43
    +2
    Can someone explain to me why in the army (well, except perhaps for the special forces, who can buy the party what he wants) do you need a gun at all? There are small-sized assault rifles with standard ammunition and shops. And penetration is much higher, and firing range, and accuracy. And the gun is even the most sophisticated, many times worse.
    1. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich 30 August 2019 23: 27
      +2
      For generals and other "staff" or a warrant officer from a clothing or food warehouse ... everyone who is in the "rear" will do the PM. Investigators from internal organs (any "organ") are also PM - there is a "pistol" in a holster and that's enough, and riot police or an opera with machine guns will go to arrest the criminal ... This is my opinion hi
      1. Zeev Zeev
        Zeev Zeev 31 August 2019 07: 57
        0
        And all "who are in the rear" will also use a machine gun. Or even two kg they cannot lift? As a last resort, give them permission to purchase, the high money is spent.
    2. kinolog2322
      kinolog2322 31 August 2019 00: 52
      0
      Zeev, And in the outfit with what to intervene?
      1. Zeev Zeev
        Zeev Zeev 31 August 2019 07: 56
        0
        With a gun. Which lies within walking distance.
  19. Doliva63
    Doliva63 30 August 2019 18: 46
    +5
    Quote: yehat
    I personally have a claim to Makarov, but all secondary
    normal but not the best ergonomics
    average quality of products, especially the barrel
    a holster could be better
    and lastly, it is necessary to somehow improve the capabilities of accurate shooting, offhand shooting at distances of about 30-35 meters.
    they are rather small.

    Tasks of the army pistol: shoot, finish, shoot. And PM is absolutely sufficient for this. What of this must be done offhand on 30-35 meters, I can’t imagine. And for other tasks there is a weapon specially tailored for them.
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  21. Doliva63
    Doliva63 30 August 2019 19: 23
    +2
    Quote: Zeev Zeev
    Can someone explain to me why in the army (well, except perhaps for the special forces, who can buy the party what he wants) do you need a gun at all? There are small-sized assault rifles with standard ammunition and shops. And penetration is much higher, and firing range, and accuracy. And the gun is even the most sophisticated, many times worse.

    Well, it's like a dagger in the navy, first of all - it denotes an officer's status. Yes, and "on the farm" for little things - I, for example, during my internship as a platoon commander, once staged an ostentatious execution of a soldier who was sleeping at the post on guard: I lined up a guard, read the Charter, read the sentence and banged the PM over his head. The fighter, of course, got off his head, but, they say, he did not sleep at the post anymore. And if I went banging out of a machine gun, there would be noise and a prosecutor's check. Also PM perfectly opens beer bottles. In general, the sheer use of a pistol in the army! laughing drinks
    By the way, in the special forces, the pistol is mainly used in the same way, the main weapon is a submachine gun, and PB and APB - well, it happens, too, is needed, but very rarely. And small-sized submachine guns are needed for those who, in addition to a submachine gun, have, for example, a radio station, a grenade launcher, etc. The officer's main weapon is the head, then the submachine gun (because he is a full-fledged fighter in his unit), but if you need to shoot a coward, a traitor, "tongue", finish off a wounded enemy or shoot himself - that's when the gun.
    1. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 30 August 2019 19: 50
      +8
      Quote: Doliva63
      For example, during an internship as a platoon commander, I once arranged a flashy execution in the guard of a soldier who was sleeping at the post: I built a guard, read out the Charter, read out the verdict and fluttered from the PM above his head. The fighter, of course, got a shit

      Ah, Valentin, I couldn’t get past your comment, well, who punishes the fighter while wearing the outfit, especially the guard, and they revered the charter, it is strictly forbidden categorically, and even with such stupid methods. After such a punishment, a fighter could put the entire guard with you after stress, or simply escape from his post with weapons. Just some kind of childishness, it was impossible to do so stop
      1. Doliva63
        Doliva63 30 August 2019 20: 02
        +2
        Quote: Anatole Klim
        Quote: Doliva63
        For example, during an internship as a platoon commander, I once arranged a flashy execution in the guard of a soldier who was sleeping at the post: I built a guard, read out the Charter, read out the verdict and fluttered from the PM above his head. The fighter, of course, got a shit

        Ah, Valentin, I couldn’t get past your comment, well, who punishes the fighter while wearing the outfit, especially the guard, and they revered the charter, it is strictly forbidden categorically, and even with such stupid methods. After such a punishment, a fighter could put the entire guard with you after stress, or simply escape from his post with weapons. Just some kind of childishness, it was impossible to do so stop

        Well, yes, it smells of childishness. But you haven't seen that personnel. There, the battalions were of one draft - they did not know anything AT ALL what is required of a soldier, and did not react to the statutory punishments. After another guard, I generally agreed to arrange one "special" Chechen for a week in a neighbor's company of the Rostov Disbat - it also helped. The command completely put its tail into the service, it was necessary to somehow move this shit. A year later, that division was disbanded altogether. For full non-readiness. In my platoon, only one tank was relatively ready - the one that I collected from the rest. Commander. So don't judge strictly.
    2. Zeev Zeev
      Zeev Zeev 31 August 2019 08: 00
      0
      Ahhh. Status. By and large, the pistol in the army has no other tasks. Well, except that the machine gunner is given for self-defense if the tape is skewed.
  22. beeper
    beeper 30 August 2019 21: 24
    +1
    I hope that the unique 9x21 mm cartridges for the Boa constrictor will be supplied to the troops in sufficient quantities, and the "story" with the constant shortage of 5,45 mm cartridges for the PSM "general's pistol" will not repeat itself ?! wink
    Tough military exploitation will more likely reveal the advantages and disadvantages of the "Boa". And the serial production process, as usual, will also "correct" the initial design. yes
    As a result of all the modifications and "adjustments" from the "Boa" should get a reliable and good pistol, because the basis of its design is very good and modern in its own way!
    Perhaps this pistol will soon become more compact and realistic - under the widespread, military and civilian, cartridges of the "9x19 Para" size pistol super penetration "? winked ) ??!
    We are now waiting for the responses of the first military users of "Boas"!
  23. CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 30 August 2019 21: 58
    -2
    Why such a ragtag in weapons? In the FSB and the special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (Rosgvardia), five in the Ministry of Defense there is a "boa constrictor"
  24. senima56
    senima56 30 August 2019 21: 58
    +3
    The Udav pistol was created according to the TTZ of the Ministry of Defense of Russia, but at the same time the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation did not require "to create a pistol to replace the PM"! A pistol with certain characteristics was required, which was done by the designer A. Kozlov. The fact that "Boa constrictor" (allegedly) was created to replace the PM is a fake inflated by unscrupulous, incompetent journalists! For this, journalists (sorry, gentlemen) are not favored!
  25. garri-lin
    garri-lin 30 August 2019 22: 26
    -2
    It’s time to transfer the army to 9 × 21. Both for pistols and for PP. The remaining calibers in the Ministry of Internal Affairs and in the civilian world.
    1. vladcub
      vladcub 31 August 2019 15: 30
      +2
      We have prohibited the sale of short-barreled weapons. I met such information: the legislator thought that 490 J (Beret power) is very much, and 1000 J power of a hunting rifle, you can have.
      1. garri-lin
        garri-lin 31 August 2019 15: 35
        0
        Chops can have a short barrel without any problems. I have friends, two brothers. Both with a criminal record for rowdy. One restaurant was defeated when a girlfriend with a hahile was caught there. Another under the booze from the cops fought back, severe bodily inflicted. Both have weapons licenses. Dummy Chop zero balance, protect themselves. And the trunks without problems. These are our laws.
    2. av58
      av58 1 September 2019 14: 09
      -1
      Take expenses into your account. From your personal pocket, pay for anything.
      1. garri-lin
        garri-lin 1 September 2019 14: 11
        0
        Good. Then you have the cost of exploiting the fact that the realities of time do not correspond. Plus the cost of the disaster.
        1. av58
          av58 1 September 2019 14: 20
          -1
          So start paying, and I have long been paying taxes, from which the army is financed.
          1. garri-lin
            garri-lin 1 September 2019 14: 25
            0
            Well done. I hope you do not consider paying taxes a heroic deed. Now the most important thing is to rationally spend your money given to the state. For example, do not waste on obsolete.
            1. av58
              av58 3 September 2019 13: 18
              -1
              I know that I am a fine fellow, and you take upon yourself the costs of unnecessary "new weapon".
              1. garri-lin
                garri-lin 3 September 2019 14: 28
                0
                Do you think that 9 × 18 corresponds to reality? Or introduce 9 × 19? It is to implement. A pistol cartridge is not only a gun but also a machine gun. 9 × 19 is already borderline, almost at the limit. 9 × 21 has a significantly greater potential. Modernization. Corresponds to realities and will be able to correspond for a long time.
  26. E.S.
    E.S. 30 August 2019 23: 47
    +3
    You can even change the PM in the army even with a boa constrictor, even a flintlock pistol, it will not affect anything. In the conditions of the database, an assault rifle should be assigned to everyone up to the colonel, for the best gun is an assault rifle.
    Since 2015, practicing users used the gun once - to strike a helmet of a fighter who fell into a stupor. A flintlock gun is even better for this
  27. Clone
    Clone 31 August 2019 00: 43
    +2
    And the old PM, as it stood and is in service, only laughs at the endless number of its "substitutes". wink
    1. senima56
      senima56 31 August 2019 21: 43
      0
      "The pistol to replace the PM" in our history is the same as the "Airplane to replace the An-2"! In either case, there are a lot of applicants, but there is no replacement! fool fool fool
  28. Mikhail Malakhov
    Mikhail Malakhov 31 August 2019 04: 43
    +1
    Nazvanice of course ...
  29. senima56
    senima56 31 August 2019 21: 41
    0
    Actually, in the second photo, not a "Gyurza", but an SPS (or SR-1M) "Gyurza" pistol, which is supplied only for export and is called "Model 055S".
    And yet, the designer Ivan Kozlov is 29 years old. And he designed the "Boa constrictor" for 4 years!
    Gentlemen, journalists, first study the topic properly, and then write, so as not to look like fools!
    1. av58
      av58 1 September 2019 14: 08
      -1
      WHY is it needed at all ??? Some kind of idiocy, or at least a kindergarten.
  30. av58
    av58 1 September 2019 14: 07
    0
    In the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (not in the MTR) there are now calibers: 9x18, 9X19 and 9x21 will be added.
    In service with PM, PYa, now here is the "Boa", and the widely advertised PL-15 is also on the way.
    Ammunition logistics is 3 times more complicated than in Soviet times; generally, I am silent about maintenance and repair of pistols.
    Whoever is EXPRESSLY able to explain why this is needed, what will be the costs of producing the "Boa", who will be rearmed with it: the entire army, or individual units, and what will be done with other pistols, including PYa and PL?
    In my opinion, this is just some kind of crazy house, not MO.
    1. ssergey1978
      ssergey1978 1 September 2019 18: 33
      +1
      Nothing will happen. PM as it was and will be. All PY and Boas are simulation activities with 0 result. Sense of changing PM in the army, I think not.
      1. av58
        av58 3 September 2019 13: 16
        -1
        So I think so too.