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US intelligence put forward a new version of the explosion in Severodvinsk

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The United States put forward a new version of the explosion in Severodvinsk. According to intelligence, it is not associated with trials and has a completely different background. CNBC American Channel publishes this information with reference to its own sources directly familiar with the report.




A new version of the "mysterious explosion" that occurred in the vicinity of Severodvinsk was put forward in Washington. Recall that on 8 of August of this year, an emergency situation occurred at the Nyonoks training ground, as a result of which 5 people were killed, three were recognized as injured.

Until recently, the main version of the incident in the United States itself was an unsuccessful test of the 9M730 "Petrel" nuclear missile (NATO's Skyfall classification). The official statement states that the explosion occurred during tests involving a radioisotope power source in a liquid-propellant jet engine. However, a fresh report by American intelligence says that an explosion off the northern coast of Russia occurred during a mission to lift a rocket from the bottom of the ocean.

The incident was not associated with new missile tests, it was an attempt to extract from the bottom of the sea and save the lost missile, lost during the previous one.

- quoted CNBC as its anonymous interlocutor, directly familiar with the assessment of US intelligence.

An explosion occurred on one of the ships participating in the operation, which caused a reaction in the nuclear core of the rocket. This led to a radiation leak.

Another source told CNBC.

The U.S. intelligence report does not mention potential health or environmental risks associated with damage to a rocket's nuclear reactor.

Russia has been preparing for a long time


The channel emphasizes that in the 2018 year it received detailed information about Moscow’s preparations for raising the lost rocket in the Barents Sea after an unsuccessful test. According to CNBC, three vessels were to take part in the operation, one of which was supposed to place equipment for processing radioactive material from a nuclear core weapons.

If the Russians managed to return the rocket, analysts of the American intelligence say, Moscow could use this procedure in the future.

In March last year, Russian President Vladimir Putin introduced a number of hypersonic weapons systems. Among them was also mentioned the "Petrel" cruise missiles.

US does not believe in "Petrel"


According to CNBC, Petrel was tested once earlier this year. Before that, the weapon was tested four times between November 2017 and February 2018, each of the launches, according to the American television channel, led to an accident.

US intelligence claims the longest test flight lasted more than two minutes. The rocket flew about 40 km before losing control and breaking. The shortest test lasted four seconds, the rocket flew 8 km. Washington also stresses that for the successful use of the rocket, Russia has to conduct several more tests.

At the same time, TASS claims that in January 2019, successful tests of a nuclear power plant passed. The American editions of The Diplomat and Business Insider in early February 2019 reported, again again with reference to US intelligence, about testing a rocket at the Kapustin Yar test site: it was recognized as "partially successful."
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  1. Andrey Chistyakov
    Andrey Chistyakov 30 August 2019 08: 54
    +6
    "Sources" stood nearby ...
    1. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 30 August 2019 09: 25
      +3
      Fortunetellers on coffee grounds .. wink
      1. bulvas
        bulvas 30 August 2019 09: 40
        0
        What to take from them,
        reporters ...

      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS 30 August 2019 10: 08
        +5
        According to intelligence, it is not associated with trials and has a completely different background.

        It was a Chelyabinsk meteorite, doodles. I definitely say. fellow
    2. Dietmar
      Dietmar 30 August 2019 09: 41
      +6
      Highly likely source of this version is "British scientists".
    3. SHURUM -BURUM
      SHURUM -BURUM 30 August 2019 09: 59
      -3
      The dude in the photo seems to be drilling a hole. There is nothing to turn away at this place. Specially stood up so that his face was not visible)).
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 30 August 2019 10: 05
        +1
        Quote: SHURUM-BURUM
        In this place there is nothing to turn

        How do you know? bully
        It looks like the source of the information leak is installed by me soldier
      2. SHURUM -BURUM
        SHURUM -BURUM 30 August 2019 10: 16
        +11
        Production photos always amuse me, where people in white coats and white skull-caps, pulled to the ears, are in a clean room of the final assembly in boots. I’ve been in the defense industry workshops for 40 years and I know how the actual assemblers are really dressed. Technological discipline in the workshop is still alive. Ciao!
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 30 August 2019 10: 24
          0
          Quote: SHURUM-BURUM
          Production photos always amuse me, where people in white coats and white skull-caps, pulled to the ears, are in a clean room of the final assembly in boots.

          I know how these photos are taken. He served at Baikonur in the mid 70s. Intercosmos has just begun. The press began to arrive, and not only ours. MICK was licked to such cleanliness .. It was always very clean there, which is incredible.
          But that's that. I myself did not find it a bit, but those who saw it all told. Soyuz-Apollo program This is where the show was laughing
          1. SHURUM -BURUM
            SHURUM -BURUM 30 August 2019 10: 36
            +2
            And I, in Mirny, at the very beginning of the 70s
        2. venik
          venik 30 August 2019 13: 51
          -2
          Quote: SHURUM-BURUM
          Production photos always amuse me, where people in white coats and white skull-caps, pulled to the ears, are in a clean room of the final assembly in boots. I’ve been in the defense industry workshops for 40 years and I know how the actual assemblers are really dressed. Technological discipline in the workshop is still alive. Ciao!

          ========
          Are you sure that this photo is from OUR enterprise? In fact, judging by the head of the rocket, it may well be "states" .... And who knows to hell, HOW and WHAT do they collect missiles there ???
        3. igor67
          igor67 30 August 2019 15: 05
          0
          Quote: SHURUM-BURUM
          Production photos where people in white coats and white skullcaps always amuse me

          it means that you didn’t comply with the safety rules, we had a NK 12 engine assembly workshop, everyone wore white coats, he got dirty by the end of the shift, we handed over to the laundry room at the repair center, we don’t wear tubs, mainly those who started working from the 50s years, we were also given white gloves for working with bearings
      3. Cap.nemo58rus
        Cap.nemo58rus 30 August 2019 20: 14
        0
        A hole is lower than the back, between the buttocks. And dude, if he drills something, then this is a hole.
  2. igorbrsv
    igorbrsv 30 August 2019 08: 55
    +7
    . The shortest test lasted four seconds, the rocket flew 8 km.

    Hypersound at the Petrel? 7200 km per hour?
    How about a "partially successful" test? This formulation is accepted by the United States. We call this unsuccessful
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 30 August 2019 09: 27
      +1
      Quote: igorbrsv
      Hypersound at the Petrel? 7200 km per hour?

      What did it accelerate to him in 4 seconds? request
      1. novel66
        novel66 30 August 2019 10: 01
        +2
        he started from it !!! Hi hi
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 30 August 2019 10: 03
          0
          Quote: novel xnumx
          he started from it !!!

          Or maybe from a gun pulnul?
          Hey Ya hi
          1. novel66
            novel66 30 August 2019 10: 37
            0
            But are there such calibers ?? recourse
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 30 August 2019 10: 41
              +3
              There are all kinds of things. Have you seen in the Kremlin? So this is the smallest laughing
              1. novel66
                novel66 30 August 2019 10: 43
                +1
                in the Kremlin - nuclear ...
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 30 August 2019 10: 50
                  +1
                  Hello pajalsta hi
                  And what about "Petrel"?
                  1. novel66
                    novel66 30 August 2019 10: 53
                    0
                    and hell knows, they say, it doesn’t happen like that ... request
    2. Sailor
      Sailor 30 August 2019 09: 47
      0
      For such a short flight, it is difficult to count "correctly": maybe with a powder accelerator and taking into account planning, 8 km came out.
      But if you divide 40km by 2min then it will be about 1200 km / h - it seems more like the truth. hi
    3. venik
      venik 30 August 2019 13: 53
      0
      Quote: igorbrsv
      Hypersound at the Petrel?

      =======
      good Actually, as I understand it - "Petrel" - a subsonic rocket with a ramjet (heated by uranium assemblies) .... And then the "hypersound" ???? fool drinks
      1. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 30 August 2019 14: 39
        +3
        I'm going to organize my party here. That she united us all. I asked the administrator and the editor for permission. We will wait. And I exaggerated mine. I want to unite all the people. Work out a concept. You yourself will choose a leader. I am going to act as a pivot and unifying force for you. Reconcile all the irreconcilable. The position of leader is unnecessary to me.
        In the end, people who are not indifferent to the fate of the fatherland "hang out" here. I hope to make my dream come true. Putin said correctly. There is no opposition, they have neither rules nor requirements. I'll look at how it is quick and easier to organize. I have a lot of free time now.
        1. atalef
          atalef 30 August 2019 14: 45
          -1
          Quote: igorbrsv
          I'm going to organize my party here. So that she unites us all


          Quote: igorbrsv
          . You yourself will choose a leader. I am going to act as a pivot and unifying force for you. Reconcile all the irreconcilable.


          Quote: igorbrsv
          Putin said the right thing. There is no opposition, they have neither rules nor requirements. I will see how it is quickly and easily organized.

          who?
          EDROS number 2?
          Quote: igorbrsv
          I now have a lot of free time.

          1. igorbrsv
            igorbrsv 30 August 2019 14: 49
            0
            You will go in there and do your bit.
            And more than none of us will be involved in this matter.
            1. atalef
              atalef 30 August 2019 14: 53
              +1
              Quote: igorbrsv
              You will enter there

              there - where is it? belay
              Quote: igorbrsv
              do your bit.


              Quote: igorbrsv
              And more than none of us will be involved in this matter.

              1. igorbrsv
                igorbrsv 30 August 2019 15: 02
                +1
                Nothing. I, too, used to be bonded man and say that the master deceived. Regardless of your desire, I will try to do it. And do not scream like a victim. If my plan fails miserably. I will try again. This is not a revolution. This is not a fratricidal war. I live here. And I want everyone to feel good. And you yourself decide what is good for you and what is bad. And you will blame yourself if something goes wrong
                1. Oyo Sarkazmi
                  Oyo Sarkazmi 30 August 2019 16: 19
                  +1
                  When you feel good, it seems to you that others feel good. Even if you're an American sergeant in Abu Ghraib
                  And if you are sure that you were underweight during childbirth, then even if luck prevails, the Ministry of Emergencies will not save you.
                  1. igorbrsv
                    igorbrsv 11 September 2019 15: 04
                    0
                    I'm not very well right now. But I do not transfer my load to the wrong shoulders. And when I feel good, this will not cancel what I said. But there is truth in your words.
  3. WILL
    WILL 30 August 2019 08: 57
    +4
    Rumors, Speculation, Versions ... ananistic sources! I did not find in the article more than one evidence from Mastrasovsky scouts. Should I publish such articles?
    1. _TANKIST_
      _TANKIST_ 30 August 2019 09: 26
      -4
      And what proof do you need, video from a phone or a web camera?)
    2. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 30 August 2019 09: 26
      +2
      This is how we ourselves "can assume" wassat
    3. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 30 August 2019 09: 29
      0
      Quote: ANIMAL
      Rumors, Speculation, Versions ... ananistic sources!

      And how was it without highly like? request
  4. Amateur
    Amateur 30 August 2019 08: 59
    +2
    In addition, a source associated with all intelligence services in the world said that
    in Russia found a stripped alien with Nibiru

    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 30 August 2019 09: 27
      +1
      "Don't go anywhere. Take your clothes off here." wassat
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 30 August 2019 09: 36
      -2
      Quote: Amateur
      In addition, a source associated with all intelligence services in the world said that

      Complement lol
      Tourists leave the Crimea. At the resort, the twin swindlers from Nibiru were caught


      14/08/2019, 04:34 \\ Science / Ufology
      Two screaming hungry freaks were found in the forest near Yasnaya Polyana and taken with them.


      Today in Crimea, two news are being discussed: the disruption of the tourist season and mutants from Nibiru. The reason was the pictures of the twin farmers who appeared on the Web. They were supposedly caught by tourists at the resort. The pictures really depict two very strange creatures, between which there is clearly a genetic connection. One kid looks like a human child, only he has very big eyes, a strange nickel instead of a nose, sharp ears, and legs and arms are very similar to a pig's hoof. His twin brother is also strange. He looks like a pig, but he has two snouts and three eyes.


      Can't take it anymore, under the table laughing
      1. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 30 August 2019 09: 51
        +1
        Cheburek in the photo must be burned. Look at his hands.
        And which is on the left. Was he caught too?
        Quick infection
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 30 August 2019 09: 55
          -3
          Quote: igorbrsv
          Look at his hands

          Yeah laughing
  5. _TANKIST_
    _TANKIST_ 30 August 2019 09: 01
    -6
    Well, this is not a version, but it really is, I already wrote about it. As soon as the first reports on the tragedy appeared. only immediately found a bunch of wise men who immediately made a howl and fell asleep with dislikes, the time. as they say showed who shit where. Now on the topic, everyone who survived the fire and explosion was immediately driven under a non-disclosure subscription, then colleagues who did not go to these events were also driven under a non-disclosure subscription, but those who managed to share their feelings before giving a subscription in a conversation with my relative, they immediately said that and how much: there was a lift of the product, a hypotile flowed out, a fire started, there was nowhere to go, they began to extinguish, as a result of the explosion, 5 ROSATOMOVTSEV died, everyone was buried in the city where I live city, the FSB officers cut off all external surveillance cameras (well, those that freely broadcast the situation on the streets to the Internet) around the city. The governor and Kiriyenko flew in. How many military personnel died there, everything is even more secretly secret, but not less than 3 people.
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 30 August 2019 09: 13
      +1
      Well, this is not a version, but it really is, I already wrote about it. As soon as the first reports on the tragedy appeared. only immediately found a bunch of wise men who immediately made a howl and fell asleep with dislikes, the time. as they say showed who shit where.

      What is the basis of such a statement? US press? Funny, deservedly put you minus again.

      Now on the topic, everyone who survived the fire and explosion was immediately driven under a non-disclosure subscription, then colleagues who did not go to these events were also driven under a non-disclosure subscription,

      Standard procedure, even for successful trials. And in general in the civil service all the time. Milk again.

      As a result of the explosion, 5 ROSATOMOVTSEV died, the inhabitants of the city where I live, buried the whole city,.

      What an interesting story, where the truth is only that Rosatom employees died. Just tell me please, how can there be specialists in a narrow field, and one shift, to be residents of the same city? This is not full-time employees of the nuclear power plant and the town built with it. This is a set of a team of professionals from all over the country to work on a specific product and project.
      FSB officers cut off all external surveillance cameras in the city (well, those that freely broadcast the situation on the streets to the Internet) The governor and Kiriyenko flew in. .

      As reminds stories from Ukraine, they like to appeal to the Crimean street webcams that were turned off by the evil FSB officers so that no one can see how few people are in Crimea! And people probably picked up the phones so that they couldn’t take it off and put it on YouTube, how the whole city went out to bury! Or is this city forever disconnected from the Internet? )))
      Quote: _TANKIST_
      How many military personnel died there, even more everything is secretly covered, but no less than 3-ex man

      The whole Pskov Airborne Brigade. In Ukraine, they no longer know the other arms of the Russian Federation, formations and regiments. So they write either the military of the Russian Federation, or the Pskov brigade died.
    2. WILL
      WILL 30 August 2019 09: 17
      +12
      Quote: _TANKIST_
      Well, this is not a version, but it really is, I already wrote about it ..

      I’m embarrassed to ask, are you the anonymous source of American intelligence ???
      1. Nevsky_ZU
        Nevsky_ZU 30 August 2019 09: 22
        +3
        Quote: ANIMAL
        Quote: _TANKIST_
        Well, this is not a version, but it really is, I already wrote about it ..

        I’m embarrassed to ask, are you the anonymous source of American intelligence ???

        Guest from Ukraine. All Americanized, judging by the avatar. He has no idea about life in the Russian Federation.
        1. WILL
          WILL 30 August 2019 09: 24
          +2
          Well then, the source is credible !!! laughing
      2. _TANKIST_
        _TANKIST_ 30 August 2019 09: 24
        -12
        They already knew everything from the very beginning, our grandmothers in the courtyard know more than zhurnalyugi, because many had friends and relatives working with these people.
        1. Andrey Chistyakov
          Andrey Chistyakov 30 August 2019 09: 28
          +4
          Quote: _TANKIST_
          They already knew everything from the very beginning, our grandmothers in the courtyard know more than zhurnalyugi, because many had friends and relatives working with these people.

          If everyone knew, why did they overslept with hypersonic missiles?
        2. Ka-52
          Ka-52 30 August 2019 10: 06
          +6
          They already knew everything from the very beginning, our grandmothers in the courtyard know more than zhurnalyugi, because many had friends and relatives working with these people.

          do not tell tales. I was subscribed and I know what it is. What are the grandmothers? Wives sometimes do not know what husbands do. Previously, even completely innocent things were the reason for going to the Special Department. And you scratch us bikes that grandmas at the porches know
          1. _TANKIST_
            _TANKIST_ 30 August 2019 10: 09
            -11
            "grandmother" - a figure of speech)))), in the same office there can be people, both under a subscription, and without, plus people can communicate even before giving a subscription.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 30 August 2019 11: 05
              +6
              what an epic nonsense ... my father number of the part where the service was held did not even tell me. stupidly 5 digits, even the wife and children did not know. . people working in such institutions have access to classified information. This is a priori non-disclosure of it. what the hell are the subscriptions yet?
    3. PN
      PN 30 August 2019 09: 20
      +4
      One question. Why are there so many Rosatomists on the rise of a rocket? It only died 5. But surely not all died, surely there were more ...
      1. _TANKIST_
        _TANKIST_ 30 August 2019 09: 36
        -13
        really died, many more military. Plus, take into account that there was a vessel for the disposal of nuclear waste nearby in the bay, most likely they wanted to carry out activities with nuclear weapons.
      2. bar
        bar 30 August 2019 09: 44
        +2
        One more question - what did a nuclear missile reactor do?
        1. _TANKIST_
          _TANKIST_ 30 August 2019 09: 58
          -12
          bi-motor rocket
          1. PN
            PN 30 August 2019 10: 01
            +4
            And here already the fantasy has gone.
    4. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 30 August 2019 09: 32
      +2
      Quote: _TANKIST_
      Well, this is not a version, but it really is, I already wrote about it. As soon as the first reports on the tragedy appeared. only immediately found a bunch of wise men who immediately made a howl and fell asleep with dislikes, the time. as they say showed who shit where. Now on the topic, everyone who survived the fire and explosion was immediately driven under a non-disclosure subscription, then colleagues who did not go to these events were also driven under a non-disclosure subscription, but those who managed to share their feelings before giving a subscription in a conversation with my relative, they immediately said that and how much: there was a lift of the product, a hypotile flowed out, a fire started, there was nowhere to go, they began to extinguish, as a result of the explosion, 5 ROSATOMOVTSEV died, everyone was buried in the city where I live city, the FSB officers cut off all external surveillance cameras (well, those that freely broadcast the situation on the streets to the Internet) around the city. The governor and Kiriyenko flew in. How many military personnel died there, everything is even more secretly secret, but not less than 3 people.

      Then tell me what they raised. Was there heptyl? What is the secret? Why are there 5 Rosatomavtsev there?
      And then again at the rumor level it turns out.
      Again, if you live there, and the FSB "chopped off" cameras, why do you need cameras?
      1. _TANKIST_
        _TANKIST_ 30 August 2019 09: 57
        -12
        And neither of which, that the rocket is "bi-motor" or you forget from the text what kind of product they raised. Simply go to Yandex and type ala: "cameras of Sarov streets" or something like that, and you will see everything for yourself))))))))))))))))))))))))) )))))))))))))))
        1. igorbrsv
          igorbrsv 30 August 2019 10: 22
          +5
          What did they raise? What happened to heptyl? Where is the explosion from?
          I am generally surprised that the closed city cameras online work. And I really could not see. Flash player did not fit. Bi-motive ... I kind of know, but I won’t tell anyone. To people who may be of interest to you, you will tell everything. And we will remain so in ignorance.
          And how can the funeral cameras be connected? My brain will break now
          1. SovAr238A
            SovAr238A 30 August 2019 22: 18
            0
            Quote: igorbrsv

            And how can the funeral cameras be connected? My brain will break now


            Those. a bunch of secret bearers walking along the lines of the escort at the funeral - visible to the whole world in chambers open for access - does it break your brain?
      2. DimerVladimer
        DimerVladimer 30 August 2019 10: 21
        -4
        Quote: igorbrsv
        Then tell me what they raised. Was there heptyl? What is the secret? Why are there 5 Rosatomavtsev there?


        We have not accepted.
        Ruthenium was thrown out in 2017 - the "authoritative" commission was dumped on an unknown satellite.
        New Scientist believes that nevertheless the Lighthouse.
        New Scientist (Great Britain): the source of the mysterious large-scale radiation leak (ruthenium leak 2017) is an enterprise in Russia ... European experts began to nod in unison towards Russia, linking the incident with the order that the Ural enterprise Mayak carried out for the Italian nuclear physics laboratory .

        https://inosmi.ru/science/20190730/245550370.html

    5. neri73-r
      neri73-r 30 August 2019 09: 35
      +7
      Quote: _TANKIST_
      Well, this is not a version, but it really is, I already wrote about it. As soon as the first reports on the tragedy appeared. only immediately found a bunch of wise men who immediately made a howl and fell asleep with dislikes, the time. as they say showed who shit where. Now on the topic, everyone who survived the fire and explosion was immediately driven under a non-disclosure subscription, then colleagues who did not go to these events were also driven under a non-disclosure subscription, but those who managed to share their feelings before giving a subscription in a conversation with my relative, they immediately said that and how much: there was a lift of the product, a hypotile flowed out, a fire started, there was nowhere to go, they began to extinguish, as a result of the explosion, 5 ROSATOMOVTSEV died, everyone was buried in the city where I live city, the FSB officers cut off all external surveillance cameras (well, those that freely broadcast the situation on the streets to the Internet) around the city. The governor and Kiriyenko flew in. How many military personnel died there, everything is even more secretly secret, but not less than 3 people.

      Ukrainians always do this, the battery on the phone runs out when Armata is destroyed with a shovel and thousands of horse Buryats, in short there is nothing to confirm.
      1. _TANKIST_
        _TANKIST_ 30 August 2019 10: 03
        -13
        And what do you rely on, on the video player from the phone, or a photo in an embrace with the product.
        1. igorbrsv
          igorbrsv 30 August 2019 10: 25
          +3
          Quote: _TANKIST_
          And what do you rely on, on the video player from the phone, or a photo in an embrace with the product.

          So hint though. Grandmothers on the bench, as I understand it, saw something, heard something. Secret rocket on heptyl, bi-propulsion. That’s all I’ve understood so far. And to raise her specialists were required. Then something exploded. Did heptyl rush?
          Here, either I joked, or the FSB that turned off the cameras, now it will be pinched, you’ll tell
    6. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 30 August 2019 09: 51
      +2
      Well, in about 50 years, whoever survives finds out the truth
    7. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 30 August 2019 10: 59
      +3
      let's immediately understand one-nobody and no one drives a subscription. they, by the nature of their activity, have a secret. initially. and everyone knows about it. wife children. Do you understand? you write like feps are rushing there and they are forced to sign something under pain of death. chopped off the cameras in the city? quite possible. but it is their right.
  6. Berkut24
    Berkut24 30 August 2019 09: 08
    0
    Tram already explained everything to everyone. Does intelligence not trust its own President?
  7. Alien From
    Alien From 30 August 2019 09: 21
    +5
    Mueller also thought that Stirlitz was a true Aryan ...!
  8. _TANKIST_
    _TANKIST_ 30 August 2019 09: 23
    -10
    Quote: Nevsky_ZU
    What an interesting story, where the truth is only that Rosatom employees died. Just tell me please, how can there be specialists in a narrow field, and one shift, to be residents of the same city? This is not full-time employees of the nuclear power plant and the town built with it. This is a set of a team of professionals from all over the country to work on a specific product and project.

    Elementary, comrade sofa expert, this is a group that has specially prepared for this work. Personally, I did not know these people, but I knew their friends well, alone, even lived in my house. So that's it, believe it or not, I’m on the drum. We can continue to live in our own little world and think that everything is nishtyak everywhere and around the machinations of the State Department)
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 30 August 2019 09: 26
      +1
      Quote: _TANKIST_
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      What an interesting story, where the truth is only that Rosatom employees died. Just tell me please, how can there be specialists in a narrow field, and one shift, to be residents of the same city? This is not full-time employees of the nuclear power plant and the town built with it. This is a set of a team of professionals from all over the country to work on a specific product and project.

      Elementary, comrade sofa expert, this is a group that has specially prepared for this work. Personally, I did not know these people, but knew their friends well, alone , even lived in my house. So that's it, believe it or not, I’m on the drum. We can continue to live in our own little world and think that everything is nishtyak everywhere and around the machinations of the State Department)

      One Grandmother Told. lol
      Wow, just a philologist’s dream. Find an inconsistent sentence within the meaning. laughing wassat
      Personally, I did not know these people, but knew their friends well, alone , even lived in my house.

      I’ll go look at my room, maybe someone lives there, whom I don’t know !!! ))) But there is not even a friend who knows friends ...
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 30 August 2019 09: 56
      +3
      Quote: _TANKIST_
      Personally, I did not know these people, but I knew their friends well, alone, even lived in my house. So that's it, believe it or not, I’m on the drum. We can continue to live in our own little world and think that everything is nishtyak everywhere and around the machinations of the State Department)

      It was a group from Sarov. In YouTube, you can find a statement by the leaders of the NIIEF. Whose relatives?
      1. _TANKIST_
        _TANKIST_ 30 August 2019 10: 00
        -11
        Don't tell me))). I’m just also from Sarov.
        1. Nevsky_ZU
          Nevsky_ZU 30 August 2019 10: 13
          +5
          Quote: _TANKIST_
          Don't tell me))). I’m just also from Sarov.

          You wrote about Sarov when Mountain Shooter wrote about it. How amazing))
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            1. Nevsky_ZU
              Nevsky_ZU 30 August 2019 13: 32
              +1
              Quote: _TANKIST_
              Well, since you are such a fan of our "mass media", then "the first channel" or "the second channel" will help you there, all the "truth" are said by "smart people".

              I am a patriot and statesman of the Russian Federation. And your wiring for unrest and mistrust of power, as in Perestroika, I am not led. As Putin said, they died heroes, performing a duty to their homeland. All will be assigned to the award, will support relatives.
              And they created new weapons systems so that June 1941 would not be repeated.
              And you are working to repeat August 1991, savoring and supporting the American media and their version of the development of events. If we trust you and your logic, then you offer us the "Pink World", where kind and good America wants to help us, and to convey the truth, what an insidious Russian government is hiding everything there, keeping everything secret and not publishing, but must show everything like in the days of Gorbachev !!! Only respected by someone, any country classifies it. The Americans have Nevada, Area-51, etc. So I trust the Russian authorities in the Putin era, as well as the Soviet authorities before the Gorbachev era. Dot.
              1. igorbrsv
                igorbrsv 11 September 2019 15: 23
                0
                I don’t like all your comments, but after that I’m with you even for reconnaissance, even for war. If I stumble, of course wassat
        2. ddmitrij
          ddmitrij 31 August 2019 01: 26
          0
          And what, in Ukraine there is also the city of Sarov? Did not know.
          1. serg.shishkov2015
            serg.shishkov2015 31 August 2019 12: 46
            0
            Sarov, he is alone! the one and only!!
    3. K-612-O
      K-612-O 30 August 2019 10: 26
      +10
      Reading your comments, I begin to doubt that you work in Sarov. I have been there many times to work at the IHF and EFI, in other sectors, people work seriously there, and so-called subscriptions are issued to all those who work in the nuclear education center when they get to work, and not by chance.
      And as I wrote earlier, from a reliable source, mine, in the same Sarov, it was not a Petrel. Understanding people can familiarize themselves with the open materials even of HydroMet, they laid out a list of discovered isotopes, according to which it is clear that the reactor was definitely not there.
      1. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 30 August 2019 10: 53
        +2
        In Sarov wassat
        Here at any enterprise the defense industry to the seventh knee wool. What is the department number? I don’t remember. My classmate from Shihan was the most silent in the group wassat
        And if you ask about the mines and do fall into a trance
        1. K-612-O
          K-612-O 30 August 2019 11: 01
          +4
          In Shihan, it’s good, gophers, a pond with swans, eh.
          Well, comrade tanker, he knows better about web cameras on the streets of Sarov what pearl is worth.
      2. _TANKIST_
        _TANKIST_ 30 August 2019 13: 24
        -5
        Neither everything far nor all works give a subscription, people like to relax abroad).
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        1. vostok68
          vostok68 30 August 2019 13: 30
          +2
          Now I’m absolutely sure that you never had anything to do with tanks!
  9. Karaul14
    Karaul14 30 August 2019 09: 31
    +1
    My grandfather in the USSR had an accident at the factory and, of course, they didn’t talk about him anywhere, but he heard about him in America’s voice, so think that US intelligence is US intelligence ...
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 30 August 2019 09: 36
      +5
      Quote: Karaul14
      My grandfather in the USSR had an accident at the factory and, of course, they didn’t talk about him anywhere, but he heard about him in America’s voice, so think that US intelligence is US intelligence ...

      Nobody denies the fact of the accident. An interpretation of it is presented in the American media. They have their own task in the information war. This is how the series "Chernobyl" and the films "Kursk" appear later, where they show the events that took place, but in a very perverted form with the meaning: "Russians do not know how to do anything and are only capable of accidents and disasters." And if they did something, they stole the technology from the Americans.
    2. askort154
      askort154 30 August 2019 14: 46
      +1
      Karaul14 .....My grandfather in the USSR had an accident at the factory and, of course, they didn’t talk about him anywhere, but he heard about him in America’s voice, so think that US intelligence is US intelligence ..

      Voice of America, Free Europe, BBC, etc. Even then, an information war was launched against the USSR. They perfectly used the method of Goebbels - 30% of the truth, stir in 70% of lies and the listener will take everything for "truth". Your grandfather turned out to be a "witness" of 30% of the truth.
      1. Karaul14
        Karaul14 31 August 2019 02: 51
        0
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        Nobody denies the fact of the accident. An interpretation of it is presented in the American media. They have their own task in the information war. This is how the series "Chernobyl" and the films "Kursk" appear later, where they show the events that took place, but in a very perverted form with the meaning: "Russians do not know how to do anything and are only capable of accidents and disasters." And if they did something, they stole the technology from the Americans.


        Quote: askort154
        Voice of America, Free Europe, BBC, etc. Even then, an information war was launched against the USSR. They perfectly used the method of Goebbels - 30% of the truth, stir in 70% of lies and the listener will take everything for "truth". Your grandfather turned out to be a "witness" of 30% of the truth.


        Firstly, I mean that they can really know, and not "guess", and secondly, this is the behavior of the authorities, an attempt to hide everything gives a lot of cards in the hands of opponents.
  10. Amateur
    Amateur 30 August 2019 09: 32
    +8
    Quote: _TANKIST_
    Hyptil leaked

    The author does not know how the name of this fuel is spelled, but he knows who, where, when gave which subscriptions, because all the "signers" ran to the author at a run to share their secrets. No.
    1. Andrey Chistyakov
      Andrey Chistyakov 30 August 2019 09: 41
      +6
      Quote: Amateur
      Quote: _TANKIST_
      Hyptil leaked

      The author does not know how the name of this fuel is spelled, but he knows who, where, when gave which subscriptions, because all the "signers" ran to the author at a run to share their secrets. No.

      If only to him alone ... And then the "grandmothers" all "know" ..
  11. bar
    bar 30 August 2019 09: 33
    -1
    Why a nuclear reactor in a rocket if it’s not a petrel?
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 30 August 2019 09: 48
      +7
      Quote: bar
      Why a nuclear reactor in a rocket if it’s not a petrel?

      There is a version that all this "fuss" is connected with testing the "underwater" missile "Skif" ... and there you can't do without a radioisotope "battery"!
      1. bar
        bar 30 August 2019 12: 19
        -1
        According to what was voiced in the media (namely, a sharp burst of radiation followed by a sharp drop without residual infection), the isotope battery is not suitable for explanation. First, isotopes cannot instantly fly away over long distances. Secondly, isotopes have a long half-life, and radioactivity cannot decrease rapidly.
        1. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 30 August 2019 14: 19
          -1
          Quote: bar
          First, isotopes cannot instantly fly away over long distances. Secondly, isotopes have a long half-life, and radioactivity cannot decrease rapidly.

          Firstly: everything was not "instantaneously" ... secondly: the explosion took place (there is reason to believe so ...) in water (under water ... as you wish!) ... "your radioactivity" largely remained in the water ... a cloud of vapor (fog) with a suspension of water particles and isotopes could rise into the air ... this cloud could quickly be carried aside by the air flow and it could rain down again into the water ... Here you have a "short-term burst of radioactivity" !
    2. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A 30 August 2019 22: 21
      0
      Quote: bar
      Why a nuclear reactor in a rocket if it’s not a petrel?


      And why does everyone think that this is Petrel?

      I think so. what is Poseidon ...
      Which before that on tests "shocked" Losharik ...
      1. bar
        bar 31 August 2019 07: 59
        0
        Also good version
  12. bar
    bar 30 August 2019 09: 36
    -2
    Quote: Nevsky_ZU
    Just tell me please, how can there be specialists in a narrow field, and one shift, to be residents of the same city?

    Elementary, Watson. For example, this is the city of Sarov, or Novouralsk, or dofiga which are still closed cities.
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 30 August 2019 09: 42
      +5
      Quote: bar
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      Just tell me please, how can there be specialists in a narrow field, and one shift, to be residents of the same city?

      Elementary, Watson. For example, this is the city of Sarov, or Novouralsk, or dofiga which are still closed cities.

      And all of them were sent to Arkhangelsk or did they make a hodgepodge of the best experts of the country? The whole city went out to bury, and not one photo. Since the FSB cordons stand so that no one captures the ceremony, how does the whole city say goodbye? And if this is initially an atomic town like Sarov or Novouralsk, then there a priori there can’t be webcams on the streets of the city, as the person above writes about, whom you supported by commenting. You already decide, this is an open city of nuclear scientists with all the fun, where then the evil FSB cut down everything, or just pour water on the American media.
      1. bar
        bar 30 August 2019 09: 50
        -4
        So as not to ask stupid questions, googled "closed administrative-territorial entity". It is in them that "the best experts of the country" usually live.
        1. Nevsky_ZU
          Nevsky_ZU 30 August 2019 09: 52
          +2
          Quote: bar
          So as not to ask stupid questions, google "zclosed administrative-territorial unit "... These are where the "best experts of the country" usually live.

          Well, if there are no webcams in the city streets, then your arguments are untenable. Or are you suggesting that I partially trust the person who originally wrote this, and you supported him? hi
          I know how these cities work, so I caught him. And you stubbornly defend only the fact that they could be from the same city, but ignore the webcams and the city farewell ceremony. A piece of truth in a lie, I do not accept such a dish either.
          1. bar
            bar 30 August 2019 12: 14
            -2
            Or do you offer me to partially trust a person

            I do not offer you anything. The issue of faith is purely individual and protected by our constitution.
            I know how these cities work, so I caught him.

            Well, that is, to troll ...
            And you stubbornly defend only the fact that they could be from the same city, but ignore the webcams and the city farewell ceremony.

            And you obstinately prove that there are no farewell ceremonies in closed cities? Especially when they bury several victims from one small city at once, where everyone knows everyone?
            Exhale already. Trolling on this site is not entirely appropriate, here like adults
      2. SovAr238A
        SovAr238A 30 August 2019 22: 32
        +2
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU

        And all of them were sent to Arkhangelsk or did they make a hodgepodge of the best experts of the country? The whole city went out to bury, and not one photo.


        You are trying in vain to jerk yourself, just knowing nothing and not interested ...

        All Five are KB-12 employees at the RFNC-VNIIEF in the city of Sarov.
        Here is a photo from the funeral.
  13. LVMI1980
    LVMI1980 30 August 2019 09: 55
    +6
    the rise of the missile lost in the Barents Sea after an unsuccessful missile test

    Severodvinsk in the Barents Sea belay , and in Russia he is in White
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 30 August 2019 10: 19
      +4
      Quote: LVMI1980
      the rise of the missile lost in the Barents Sea after an unsuccessful missile test

      Severodvinsk in the Barents Sea belay , and in Russia he is in White

      Who cares! laughing
  14. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 August 2019 10: 07
    +5
    _TANKIST
    ... time. as they say showed who shit where ... How many soldiers died there HZ
    Time really showed that a bunch you piled up a decent one. And the source of information is what you’ll download - in conversation with my relative..
  15. bar
    bar 30 August 2019 10: 12
    0
    Quote: Nevsky_ZU

    Well, if there are no webcams in the city streets, then your arguments are untenable.

    But there are fences around the city, and a checkpoint that does not let pass strangers. Well, there are problems with the contact people, that's why it's not easy to upload pictures.
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 30 August 2019 10: 20
      +2
      Quote: bar
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU

      Well, if there are no webcams in the city streets, then your arguments are untenable.

      But there are fences around the city, and a checkpoint that does not let pass strangers. Well, there are problems with the contact people, that's why it's not easy to upload pictures.

      I repeat again, I know what a closed city is. But you support the one who writes about webcams in this city and the mountains of military corpses, and all that the American press writes about. So something like that.
      1. bar
        bar 30 August 2019 12: 02
        0
        Why exaggerate? For the sake of trolling? There may be cameras, with the output to the remote control. I don’t know the mountains, but five were buried, and this is a fact.
  16. Piramidon
    Piramidon 30 August 2019 10: 21
    +5
    what caused the reaction in the nuclear core missiles

    Nuclear core - how and where?
    1. K-50
      K-50 30 August 2019 10: 30
      +2
      Quote: Piramidon
      Nuclear core - how and where?

      You can ask them something easier. lol
    2. K-612-O
      K-612-O 30 August 2019 10: 31
      +2
      This is the first stage before vigorous loaf laughing then only the stump is vigorous bully
  17. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 30 August 2019 10: 28
    +1
    The test flight lasted more than two minutes. The rocket flew about 40 km before losing control and breaking. The shortest test lasted four seconds, the rocket flew 8 km.
    The proportions, however, are delusional, from the word at all. After 4 seconds, the rocket should fall near the launcher.
  18. K-50
    K-50 30 August 2019 10: 29
    +3
    The United States put forward a new version of the explosion in Severodvinsk. According to intelligence, it is not associated with trials and has a completely different background. An explosion occurred on one of the ships participating in the operation, which caused a reaction in the nuclear core of the rocket. This led to a radiation leak.

    Is it after the cactus extract? After the fly agarics, you will have a dozen more "versions". yes fellow laughing
    When it will be possible, then you will learn, and so will fortune-telling, not even on the coffee grounds, but on the excitement of the ocean. fellow lol
  19. Foxnova
    Foxnova 30 August 2019 10: 46
    -2
    The whole civilian crew went off with the sbs asterisk
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 30 August 2019 11: 22
      +2
      In the fog? Or catch butterflies on a farm?
  20. Ster
    Ster 30 August 2019 12: 13
    +1
    Quote: SHURUM-BURUM
    In this place there is nothing to turn

    He does not turn, he wraps a screw. He wants to hang a jacket ...
  21. E.S.
    E.S. 30 August 2019 12: 24
    0
    Quote: _TANKIST_
    bi-motor rocket

    Biomotor, tolerant, universal, and liberal because with artificial intelligence. So she thought to her AI and decided that than threatening Western values ​​to please Mordor, it’s better to drown and explode here.
  22. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 30 August 2019 12: 41
    +3
    That according to their first version, that according to the second - the nuclear reactor of the Kyrgyz Republic exploded
    Petrel. Exploded into the sea.
    The entire R&D group was tragically killed.
    All ground tests were with a conventional non-nuclear engine.
  23. zenion
    zenion 30 August 2019 14: 44
    +1
    The United States does not believe in Petrel. And I don't care whether the States believe me or not. Absolutely, as before the light bulb that burned out. They can shove their opinion, in general they can shove it, they know where. Let them stand in a circle and whistle each other at the same time. If they fail, let them rehearse until they coincide.
  24. Old26
    Old26 30 August 2019 15: 14
    +3
    The article, as usual, NOTHING ABOUT.

    Quote: SHURUM -BURUM
    The dude in the photo seems to be drilling a hole. There is nothing to turn away at this place. Specially stood up so that his face was not visible)).

    Nope, he scratches with a nail on the fairings "Vasya was here" laughing

    Quote: SHURUM -BURUM
    Production photos always amuse me, where people in white coats and white skull-caps, pulled to the ears, are in a clean room of the final assembly in boots. I’ve been in the defense industry workshops for 40 years and I know how the actual assemblers are really dressed. Technological discipline in the workshop is still alive. Ciao!

    There are overalls, skullcaps - there are, "muzzles" are, but there was not enough money for shoe covers, or they brought blue from the pharmacy laughing

    Quote: Lipchanin
    I know how these photos are taken. He served at Baikonur in the mid 70s. Intercosmos has just begun. The press began to arrive, and not only ours. MICK was licked to such cleanliness .. It was always very clean there, which is incredible.
    But that's that. I myself did not find it a bit, but those who saw it all told. Soyuz-Apollo program This is where the show was

    Anything happened. I was on a business trip to Energia in the late 70s - early 80s, I don't remember exactly. They then opened an experimental shop for the production of multilayer boards. They let us into the workshop after having changed into special clothes. Then there was still a story about a woman who walked with the device and could stop the process. As they said, the device counted the number of dust particles per cubic meter laughing
    But at the same time, you could lick the MIC to a state of mirror purity, but when someone came with large epaulettes or someone at the level of secretaries of the Central Committee, sometimes all these tricks with sterility were reduced to zero. How to make the first secretary of the Communist Party of the fraternal country wear sterile clothes

    Quote: venik
    Are you sure that this photo is from OUR enterprise? In fact, judging by the head of the rocket, it may well be "states" .... And who knows to hell, HOW and WHAT do they collect missiles there ???

    Interesting observation, namesake. The fairing also interested me from the first publication of this photo. Rather resembles something "stealth". Red color means EMNIP experimental product, but only for aviation. So there are more questions than answers. What if it's something else. After all, there are programs whose names we know, and what it is - HZ. For example, the same "Bedouin-8" ????

    Quote: igorbrsv
    How about a "partially successful" test? This formulation is accepted by the United States. We call this unsuccessful

    We also have partially successful tests, successful and unsuccessful. Partially successful tests are when some of the parameters were achieved, but one or two were not. For example, the rocket was launched, this "atomic engine" was launched on it, but instead of, for example, 400 km according to the test plan, it flew only 40. It reached all parameters except the range. These are the partially successful tests.

    Quote: _TANKIST_
    Now on the topic, everyone who survived the fire and explosion was immediately driven under a non-disclosure subscription

    In fact, as far as I remember, a subscription is given BEFORE, not after a business trip (with any result)

    Quote: carstorm 11
    let's immediately understand one-nobody and no one drives a subscription. they, by the nature of their activity, have a secret. initially. and everyone knows about it. wife children. Do you understand? you write like feps are rushing there and they are forced to sign something under pain of death. chopped off the cameras in the city? quite possible. but it is their right.

    Well, maybe the wife and children do not always know about what exactly the husband (father) is doing, well, of course, of course it is known. When you receive the next admission form, you sign a lot of papers. And no one at the same time drives you under a subscription. The only exception is when you quit, there is yes, an "evil subscription" that threatens you with punishment if you start talking sooner than .... years. But for people working in a regime organization, such silence is already at the genetic level ...

    Quote: Nevsky_ZU
    And all of them were sent to Arkhangelsk or did they make a hodgepodge of the best experts of the country?

    Well, hardly, Vyacheslav, it was a hodgepodge of the best experts in the country. Nevertheless, each enterprise, each "box" has its own theme and it is unlikely that such a combined hodgepodge of specialists of the same profile is needed for this. Rosatom employees were engaged in "Product" A ", representatives of firm B were engaged in" Product "B", etc. No one will give an answer to the question of what happened, but why people were found in the explosion zone during the test is a completely different question. The tragedy of October 60 taught a lot and it is unlikely that the specialist was so indifferent to the precautions taken during the tests. In short, solid versions sucked out of the finger ...
    1. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A 30 August 2019 22: 45
      0
      Quote: Old26
      taken on trials. In short, solid versions sucked from a finger ...

      Quote.
      We prepared quite seriously for work in the waters of the White Sea, about a year, gathered the appropriate stands, and conducted certification. But the situation went according to an emergency scenario. A special commission has been set up to investigate the causes. I must note the highest civic qualities of our comrades. They always participated in such work and achieved a positive result. There was a chain of tragic accidents, uncertainties. According to preliminary analysis, we saw that they were fighting to take control of the situation. But, unfortunately, this failed ...

      source is easy to find
  25. Kontrik
    Kontrik 30 August 2019 16: 22
    -1
    Let the west puzzle, that it was .. But Putin still did not lie about promising new weapons based on new physical principles. hi
  26. Oyo Sarkazmi
    Oyo Sarkazmi 30 August 2019 16: 30
    0
    Quote: DimerVladimer
    Ruthenium was thrown out in 2017 - the "authoritative" commission was dumped on an unknown satellite.

    Gee. We look at the map. Romania - 100, Kiev - 60, Ural - 15.
    It takes a long time to think that ruthenium oxide was sprayed over Romania at high altitude? FIVE GRAM, scattered across Western Europe, and how to get the Russians to report? The press is making a fuss, our liberals have joined in and the map of a possible radioactive infection is ready. Completely free in a large area.
    1. Sky
      Sky 30 August 2019 20: 45
      0
      Quote: Oo sarcasm
      It takes a long time to think that ruthenium oxide was sprayed over Romania at high altitude?
      Have you at least a map of the movement of air masses from Roshydromet for these days, what is Romania, if the flows came from the Urals? And at the same time, evaluate how the concentration of ruthenium systematically dropped after Romania, when it was pulled across Europe and up to St. Petersburg, where trace amounts were recorded. This dynamics was recorded by hundreds of stations throughout Europe and the data went to the IAEA. Now ask yourself a question, why did the concentration fall from the Urals to Krasnodar (these are our official data), when crossing the Black Sea, it jumped an order of magnitude or two and began to fall again. Can you guess the reason for the "amazing" jump on the border of Roshydromet's responsibility?
      1. Oyo Sarkazmi
        Oyo Sarkazmi 30 August 2019 21: 09
        -1
        Quote: Skye
        This dynamic has been recorded by hundreds of stations throughout Europe.

        It was fixed. And only in Russia and Ukraine published. There are no infection maps for France and Germany. As well as radiation levels for WE. Only once let it slip that the maximum is in the east of Romania. Like, the Carpathians collected all the radiation.
        Look at the numbers again. All terabecquerels produced one and a half grams of oxide. The maximum radiation in Romania and the Urals remained trace pollution. There are no associated pollution - iodine, cesium, plutonium - no. Ours in this experiment were wholly divorced on a heightened guilt, forcing to freely map the distribution of ALTITUDE WINDS. About Western Europe - complete silence. Try to find their cards ... bully
        1. Sky
          Sky 1 September 2019 10: 34
          0
          Quote: Oo sarcasm
          Try to find their cards

          I saw these cards and reports back when I was trying to figure out what had happened, which is why I’m talking about the dynamics of ruthenium being pulled away by the air masses. And ours initially generally denied the outburst, admitted when it already began to look silly. To prevent panic, the figures were underestimated by 2 orders of magnitude, but they did not realize what to do with the illogical dynamics of the drop in concentration. Separate ruthenium filters are located on the Mayak SNF processing line. More precisely, they should stand and be serviced on time.
  27. vmo
    vmo 31 August 2019 09: 54
    0
    These "Cossacks" carry a blizzard for happiness, puffed up trying to portray everything with an eye, DOOF and idiot!
    1. AML
      AML 31 August 2019 12: 32
      0
      They know their business. If there weren’t these messages, the bulk would have forgotten that there was an explosion
  28. Old26
    Old26 31 August 2019 16: 09
    +2
    Quote: SovAr238A
    Quote: Old26
    taken on trials. In short, solid versions sucked from a finger ...

    Quote.
    We prepared quite seriously for work in the waters of the White Sea, about a year, gathered the appropriate stands, and conducted certification. But the situation went according to an emergency scenario. A special commission has been set up to investigate the causes. I must note the highest civic qualities of our comrades. They always participated in such work and achieved a positive result. There was a chain of tragic accidents, uncertainties. According to preliminary analysis, we saw that they were fighting to take control of the situation. But, unfortunately, this failed ...

    source is easy to find

    This is exactly what this is about. A chain of accidents, tragic accidents led to casualties. But what and how has developed - here I think the topic will be closed for a long time. The fact remains. People died, but the reason is not clear.
    Whether this is a nonsense about TB. What a sin to conceal, anything can happen. It also happens that even people who have worked for decades for decades begin to look through their fingers at the prescribed safety measures. Whether the chain of tragic accidents is real ...
  29. Andrey Vershinin
    Andrey Vershinin 31 August 2019 20: 48
    0
    A comrade from Nenoksa 10 days ago, said that they were lifting an old rocket, there was a leak of a substance that was vigorously oxidizing in air, followed by an explosion.
    This is widespread information in the village, everyone openly neighing over idle thoughts about the Petrel.
  30. Old26
    Old26 1 September 2019 00: 27
    +2
    Quote: Andrei Vershinin
    A comrade from Nenoksa 10 days ago, said that they were lifting an old rocket, there was a leak of a substance that was vigorously oxidizing in air, followed by an explosion.
    This is widespread information in the village, everyone openly neighing over idle thoughts about the Petrel.

    Well, I don’t know what a comrade from Nenoksy said there. What can be as fuel in modern rockets. Perhaps, except heptyl, there is nothing to come up with. In a mixture with nitrogen tetroxide, heptyl is self-igniting. What there could be oxidized in the air to cause an explosion, I can’t imagine ...
    Therefore, I think that this information, widely distributed in the village, is far from real