T-90 tank barrel burst during firing in India

The command of one of the Indian armored divisions reports an emergency during practical firing. Indian resource The Economic Times found out that the incident occurred during the firing of tank T-90.

The publication reports that when firing at one of the firing ranges during the projectile exit from the tank barrel, an explosion occurred. The barrel of the tank was torn apart, the fate of the crew is not reported.

This is an incident that occurred with T-90 "Bhishma" at the training ground in Pokhran (Pokran). This is the Jaisalmer district in the province of Rajasthan.

The spokesman for the Indian Ministry of Defense, Colonel Sombit Ghosh, stated that the incident with the rupture of a tank barrel during the firing took place last Wednesday. According to Colonel Ghosh, the necessary investigation is already underway with consideration of two versions about the causes of the incident: technical problems and the human factor. However, Gauche did not say anything about whether there were casualties as a result of this incident.

In the meantime, all sorts of versions of the T-90 tank incident are starting to be published in the Indian blogosphere. In some cases, the use of ammunition that was not stored in accordance with accepted standards is reported. Officially, this information is not currently confirmed.

Recall that earlier in India, the purchase of 464 T-90MS tanks was approved. Also in India recently began to discuss the possibility of acquiring the latest Russian tank T-14 "Armata".

Comments

[Nitarius]

Well, damn it)) rugged Indians))))) have any technique to make BABAH))

[poquello]

the Indians were all offended that the shots were sold separately, so they decided to try to see their own craft

[Praetorian4]

Anything can happen. And we explode.

[WILL]

Given the geography of this news ... the human factor - the main version!

[KCA]

Judging by the fact that the Bhishma tank is an Indian assembly, they are even more friends with the assembly of equipment than with the operation

[vadson]

the gun’s barrel is a strategic technology and was not sold to the Indians

[igorbrsv]

What is their barrel, what is a glass ball ...

[cradle]

two steel, one will be lost, the other will be broken. Glass is not a ball.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: vadson

the gun’s barrel is a strategic technology and was not sold to the Indians

A handful of sand in the barrel is a tactical technology. it doesn’t need to be sold, it’s known to everyone.

[svp67]

Quote: KCA

Judging by the fact that the Bhishma tank is an Indian assembly, they are even more friends with the assembly of equipment than with the operation

Most likely "substandard shell" or "presence of foreign objects", sand, stones, dirt, in the bore.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: svp67

Quote: KCA

Judging by the fact that the Bhishma tank is an Indian assembly, they are even more friends with the assembly of equipment than with the operation

Most likely "substandard shell" or "presence of foreign objects", sand, stones, dirt, in the bore.

Hindus shoot trunks without regard to the resource. Therefore, the rupture of the trunks of tank guns they are not uncommon.

[svp67]

Quote: Captain Pushkin

Hindus shoot trunks without regard to the resource. Therefore, the rupture of the trunks of tank guns they are not uncommon.

Honestly wonderful things, these are smooth-bore guns and the more shooting, the more wear, and the diameter of the bore, and this leads to the fact that breakthroughs of powder gases begin between the obturating belt and the inner part of the bore, which leads to a loss of projectile velocity and most importantly reduce the load on the barrel ...

[Sanichsan]

Quote: svp67

Most likely "substandard shell" or "presence of foreign objects", sand, stones, dirt, in the bore.

in short, the cause of the Indians. these creative guys managed to drown the submarine forgetting to close the hatch before diving ...

[Zaurbek]

Few where anyone's trunk was torn apart ... there are a million factors.

[Mountain shooter]

Have you tried to clean the trunk? To start It is not clear what kind of shell, what kind of charge, where and how it was stored.
Artillery gunpowder with improper or too long storage is prone to detonation ...
What trunks is difficult to endure ... Many factors. Inflating is not worth such an emergency ...

[Errr]

And the British do not clean their guns with bricks ...)))

[Storog dvornik]

You explained very competently ... colleagues are not needed here .... who understood that understood .... with understanding. Yu.yu and ... some "pillars"

[Nycomed]

Or maybe they loaded two shells at once? Well, remember, with mortars in the war, how many cases were ... And here are the Hindus.

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: Nycomed

Or maybe they loaded two shells at once?

Well, it's not real, it's not a mortar

[Normal ok]

Quote: Nycomed

Or maybe they loaded two shells at once? Well, remember, with mortars in the war, how many cases were ... And here are the Hindus.

Unreal. It’s impossible to push the 2 shell into the chamber, even if you wish.

[Nycomed]

Or maybe they were loading from the barrel? Hindus are.

[igorbrsv]

I thought about that too. What's so complicated? One there, another here. And a couple more. They will become

[bang]

One there, another here.
Apparently they heard about the tandem shell and ...)

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Normal ok

Quote: Nycomed

Or maybe they loaded two shells at once? Well, remember, with mortars in the war, how many cases were ... And here are the Hindus.

Unreal. It’s impossible to push the 2 shell into the chamber, even if you wish.

In the Second World War, the Germans had cumulative over-caliber shells loaded from the muzzle of a 75 mm gun. If at the same time with the supercaliber on the cut, charge the RP into the chamber and flip it all over, then yes, the version will be correct. But the Indians do not have super-caliber for 125mm guns (fortunately).

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Nycomed

Or maybe they loaded two shells at once? Well, remember how with mortars in the war, how many cases were.

Is this such a joke of humor?

[Ros 56]

Or maybe they forgot the ritual dance around the tank to fuck, that's the result. Not so simple.

[Yorgven]

Even as they danced, they sang songs, put the gifts to the gods directly in the trunk and smoked them with incense ... But damn, something didn’t matter, it went wrong ...

[igorbrsv]

Greedy

[sergo1914]

A handful of sand in the trunk. Burst muzzle. Everything is obvious.

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Serge, from a piece of a handful of sand in the trunk, will not break the barrel. Even when the barrel of the hunting rifle gets sand, the barrel does not break after the shot, but here it is much thicker than the barrel.

[sergo1914]

Hunting weapons have different safety factors and resource. The tank barrel is thin. Caliber would be torn into strips. And here it looks like a sub-caliber pallet tore off the muzzle.

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Hunting weapons have different safety factors and resource.

Even they can withstand sand, and even more so the tank must withstand sand, in principle, it is designed for this. Most likely, the trunk had a defect from the very beginning, and it burst from the load.

[carstorm 11]

Lord also a tragedy of universal scale to me. Well, scooped up somewhere and caught a daisy. it’s not as if this happens.

[igorbrsv]

These could bend

[Izotovp]

Maybe they paid someone who needed to get non-standard from the warehouse. Before discussing the purchase, a good throw.

[113262a]

Normal phenomenon! The Krishnas buried the trunk in the ground, and did not blow it. Just a charge. The projectile is overboard! By the way, this is one of the shortcomings of the Chelyabinsk AZ — it’s not convenient to take out and throw away the projectile on the go, to say the least! Here MZ is the most!

[rotmistr60]

Someone from the crew in the barrel held a nest. More often gun barrel needs to be cleaned and shells checked.

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

There is nothing surprising in this, a normal phenomenon in the weapons environment. Iron has the property of bursting, heavy loads on it. When a barrel was made, a small defect could occur, you might not have noticed it right away, but when the load went on the barrel, this is the result on the face. Such cases also happen with hunting rifles.

[Karabas]

There is nothing surprising in this, a normal phenomenon in the weapons environment. Iron has the property of bursting, heavy loads on it. When a barrel was made, a small defect could occur, you might not have noticed it right away, but when the load went on the barrel, this is the result on the face. Such cases also happen with hunting rifles.

All the trunks at the factory are checked and tested many times, then they shoot the gun, so this is not a normal phenomenon in the weapons environment. 90% sure that they pushed something into the barrel before a shot or buried it in concrete ground (optional).

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

All the trunks at the factory are checked and tested many times, then they shoot the gun

So what! what they check, there are insignificant loads, and after a certain period of loads only then can they appear.

so this is not a normal phenomenon in the weapons environment.

Where is that said? It is enough to analyze this situation by statistics and there will be other indicators.

90% sure that they pushed something into the barrel before firing

And in what this confidence is manifested, from your words it sounds so that they specially stuffed something there.

[carstorm 11]

not specifically) grabbed sand or earth when turning the tower and did not purge. all. petals in all directions) poor service. I don’t know how many shootings in my life a barrel break due to a defect I haven’t met. I do not exclude such a possibility, but you will not drink experience)

[Karabas]

So what! what they check, there are insignificant loads, and after a certain period of loads only then can they appear.

How trunks are checked at the factory and what loads even video is. Do not be lazy and look before building your theories.

Where is that said? It is enough to analyze this situation by statistics and there will be other indicators.

There’s no point in even saying something. The analyzer you are our homegrown.

And in what this confidence is manifested, from your words it sounds so that they specially stuffed something there.

Naturally on purpose. Nothing is crammed into it itself.

[ism_ek]

Quote: Karabas

All the trunks at the factory are checked and tested many times, then they shoot the gun, so this is not a normal phenomenon in the weapons environment.

I want to cry after your words.
To begin with, the cannon is made at a special plant, which recently began to enter the UVZ structure.
They decided to check the first batch of tanks from the Indian order by chance. The general wanted to shoot from the tank. The result impressed everyone. The gun was torn apart. The entire batch of guns went back to Uralmash for alteration.
The resource of the gun mounted on the T-90 is 600 rounds, given that the Indian contract was concluded more than 20 years ago, and taking into account the quality of the Indian ammunition, there is nothing surprising in the gun’s rupture.

[ism_ek]

You are referring to an article about Motovilikhinsky plants. Where in this article is it written that they produce guns for tanks? Chukchi writer, not reader? :)

[Karabas]

You are referring to an article about Motovilikhinsky plants. Where in this article is it written that they produce guns for tanks? Chukchi writer, not reader? :)

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/2%D0%9046
Why there are no links in the article is not a question for me, but to the one who wrote it and did not add it.
Himself too lazy to dial? Should I search? Here, apparently, the Chukchi and not a writer and not a reader and not a seeker.

[Altai72]

A projectile moving along the barrel of the tank comes into contact with a fragment or dirt in the barrel, and powder gases follow the projectile, as a result the pressure in the barrel increases and it simply breaks. This is certainly one of the many, but the main reasons. Most likely the Indians had a "bath day" a long time ago. Well, it so happened that the damaged part of the trunk was cut off. During the war, tankers even had such an expression "to fight with a stub".

[Cat man null]

Quote: Altai72

and it so happened that the damaged part of the trunk was cut off

Minus the weapon stabilizer - right away. The "trimmed" gun is not balanced relative to the axis, raise and lower it with your hands - you will be tortured, and the stabilizer will certainly die.

[SASHA OLD]

If I saw correctly in the photo, then it exploded in the muzzle section, it is likely that the tank, while driving to the firing position, raked the ground with its trunk, poking it in the ground at an overpass over an obstacle (entering a hill, leaving it) and after arriving at the position immediately opened fire ...
But these are just my thoughts, nothing more.
Still, it's better to wait for the official version

[Karabas]

All dirt and sand will fly out, there will be no rupture of the trunk. Something solid in the trunk napali. Scrap for example ...

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Karabas

All dirt and sand will fly out, there will be no rupture of the trunk. Something solid in the trunk napali.

Well, the fact that nothing will happen from a couple of handfuls of loose earth is understandable, but suddenly gravels have raked slightly ...)

Quote: Karabas

Scrap for example ...

by the way!
a video on the Internet walked where our tank pulled a log - without consequences for the guns and crew, that is, in general, as it were, it should be as I understand it, such as a strength check ...
and Khalagaz suggested that there is a cover on the muzzle.
Anyway, in any case, this topic should have a logical continuation with the official result

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: SASHA OLD

the fact that nothing happens from a couple of handfuls of loose earth is understandable,

Not at all clear. Once I watched the MT-12 barrel before firing and after about 40 shots.
The gun was in the trench, i.e. the trunk was almost lying on the ground overgrown with low grass. After each shot, the dust pulled into the barrel. And from this dust there were badasses 3-4 mm deep. Shooting was carried out by practical shells, with cumulative ballistics. If they were sub-caliber, badass would be much bigger. I doubt that, after a handful of sand in the barrel, it would not be blown apart when fired.

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Captain Pushkin

I doubt that after a handful of sand in the barrel, it would not be blown apart when fired

yes, I mean the land remained near the very muzzle end - it will simply be taken out when fired, I saw this once - it seems that the guys managed without consequences, and if the abrasive got deep into the trunk it is already clear that there will be some badasses.
let's see what the kshatriyas say

[Hagalaz]

In my opinion, the photo is generally left, from what was found. And the muzzle is covered with a cover. Otherwise, it may well be.

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Hagalaz

In my opinion, the photo is generally left, from what was found. And the muzzle is covered with a cover. Otherwise, it may well be.

clearly, thank you, looked on the phone - did not see what was there

[RusGr]

Most likely there was a sticking into the ground by the barrel, the crew could not notice and subsequently fired, which naturally led to the barrel breaking. And inside the tank and nothing will happen to anyone from the rupture of the barrel, the chamber is closed. It was not uncommon in our exercises, young soldiers scooped up the ground with a barrel and, when fired, a barrel with an asterisk!

[cniza]

In some cases, the use of ammunition that was not stored in accordance with accepted standards is reported. Officially, this information is not currently confirmed.

Most likely the human factor.

[Herman 4223]

Trunk contamination is most likely.

[lopvlad]

an explosion occurred during the exit of the projectile from the tank barrel

again, these gypsies got it. That is, the torpedo is loaded into the submarine on the wrong side and then they are surprised at its explosion and now they get to the tank.

[Lexa-149]

That hype raised. And how many of our trunks breaks after sticking or whatever else. Change the barrel on the tank - a simple operation. For a day they will change if there is a spare.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Lexa-149

Change the barrel on the tank - a simple operation.

The operation is routine, but the trunk is just like a good car.

[Lexa-149]

And what to do? The whole tank is even more expensive!))

[Mavrikiy]

The publication reports that when firing at one of the firing ranges during the projectile exit from the tank barrel, an explosion occurred. The barrel of the tank was torn apart, the fate of the crew is not reported.

From this short post, we can assume:
1. that the projectile was moving along the barrel, at the exit from the barrel, it wedged and tore apart the shell of the barrel blowdown mechanism. Hence the dramatic, the barrel of the tank tore, There was no explosion.
2. Unsuitable shells with a damaged fuse. Unlikely.
People did not suffer, otherwise it would have stood.

[Piramidon]

Recall that earlier in India, the purchase of 464 T-90MS tanks was approved. Also in India recently began to discuss the possibility of acquiring the latest Russian tank T-14 "Armata".

The proverb about the glass member is recalled.

[SASHA OLD]

this is the first thing that came to my mind when reading this article today

[Shuttle]

The mass of options.

1. Trunk defect.
As far as I know, the barrel is still made in Russia. The defect is not only excluded, but disappearingly unlikely.

2. Foreign body in the bore.
The most likely version. The remark that the rupture occurred when leaving the bore is in favor of this version. They scooped up the barrel before the shot and still banged.

3. Poor quality ammunition.
Ammunition is traditionally separate. Those. separate shell and propellant charge.
The propellant could hardly have become a direct cause since it performs its main action in the breech and further, as the projectile moves along the bore and its velocity increases, the pressure of the powder gases decreases, and from the moment of the shot, i.e. separation of the projectile from the bore is quickly equated to atmospheric altogether.
If the fire was fired by live shells, which is possible at the firing range, then it is theoretically possible to talk about the likelihood of an explosive being detonated until the shell detaches from the bore. But only theoretically. In practice, this is also prevented by a fuse equipped with a so-called mechanism. distant platoon. It provides a delay in bringing the fuse to the firing position so that the fired shell can move away from the gun a sufficient distance. Otherwise, if the projectile hits an object that is too close, the gun (tank) and its crew (crew) may be affected by the impact of their own projectile. T.O. the version with an exploding shell is also vanishingly small, provided that the shells are of high quality. But if not, or if, for example, abnormal ammunition, a detonator of their own design, etc. were used, then this version cannot be completely excluded.

4. Combinations of 1,2,3 versions, but not random, but as a deliberate sabotage. This, of course, smacks of conspiracy theory, but it cannot be ruled out.

... the fate of the crew is not reported.

Having searched a little in the Indian press, I found a message saying that no one was injured as a result of the big bang. Those. There are no victims and injured.
Here is a note from "India Today". https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/barrel-t90-battle-tank-explodes-pokhran-1592875-2019-08-29

And now ATTENTION !!!
The article indicates the location where the incident occurred.

- The Pokhran test site is located 45 km north-west of Pokhran town and 4 km north of Khetolai village in Jaisalmer.
Those. - The Pokhran range is located at 45 km northwest of the city of Pokhran and at 4 km north of the village of Khetolay in Jaisalmer.
Out of habit, I decided to look at this place in order to check the most likely, in my opinion, version with "scooped up the earth with the trunk." Well, like, how rough is there. And ... oh horror !!! In the indicated place, namely 4 km north of the village of Khetolai, there is nothing more than the Indian Nuclear Test Site. Those. Indian nuclear test site. That's it!

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For reference. POLIGON POKHARAN, INDIA
Year of appearance: 1974.
The first nuclear tests in India took place in the 1974 year, at the Pokharan training ground. It is located on the territory of the densely populated state of Rajasthan, since the foundation the training ground has been a serious threat to local residents. In many ways, the formation of the training ground was facilitated by a long-standing military conflict with Pakistan. In 1998, the largest series was conducted at the Pokharan training ground, five nuclear shells were blown up here. Currently, the landfill is a protected enclosed area, explosions in its territory are no longer carried out, but used for other tests.
Here, the military is practicing bombing techniques, as well as various methods of using nuclear weapons. It is important to note that India is one of the few states in the world with a nuclear triad. This country has at its disposal all possible means for delivering nuclear bombs: airplanes, special submarines, as well as ballistic systems. Like many other polygons in the world, Pokharan remains the most secret to date. Many advanced countries receive information about it only images from space satellites.

In 2000, the images obtained from the IKONOS-2 satellite were published. In these images, plots of soil subsidence that occurred after the next series of tests are visible. Even in the pictures, the buildings that could serve as the entrance to the underground tunnels are distinguishable. At this training ground, the test of the most powerful nuclear projectile in Indian history took place, according to experts, its capacity was at least 20 ct, and some researchers argue that the explosion power was at least 30 ct.

So everything may not be as easy as it seems at first glance.

[SASHA OLD]

my regards!

[Herman 4223]

In order for the trunk to burst, it is clearly necessary to do something wrong.

[PValery53]

Attackers crept up and welded the trunk from the inside. Well this is necessary!

[Piramidon]

Quote: PValery53

Attackers crept up and welded the trunk from the inside. Well this is necessary!

I read a story about a pioneer hero in early childhood. There, he poured sand into the trunks of German tanks and tore the trunks.

[yuratanja1950]

"earlier in India, the purchase of 464 T-90MS tanks was approved. Also in India, they recently began to discuss the possibility of purchasing the newest Russian T-14 Armata tank"...

Here, not only the quality of ammunition and the curvature of tankers can be discussed ...

[Evil 55]

You need to clean the trunks more often, and not read the mantras .. Hare Krsna is not an assistant in this matter ..

[Piramidon]

Maybe they feed perfume guns through the barrel.

[midshipman]

The trunk should be clean. The instructions and regulations should be followed.

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

As you name the ship, it will sail ... So with the tanks, probably))) Ivan the Terrible should have been called in Russian, then the trunks would have been intact, and the enemies would be scared))) But Bhishma is formidable and formidable , but not Ivan)))

[Shuttle]

Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal

As you name the ship, it will sail ... So with the tanks, probably))) Ivan the Terrible should have been called in Russian, then the trunks would have been intact, and the enemies would be scared))) But Bhishma is formidable and formidable , but not Ivan)))

Grandfather Bhisma, the invincible warrior of Bhismadeva who defended the throne of Hastinapur, possessed such knowledge of military art, such power that no one could defeat him in fair battle. Neither the best archer in three worlds, Arjuna, nor the super-powerful Bhima, nor the warrior with the spear of Yudhisthira. None at all. He alone coped with entire armies. In fact, in battle, he received t.s. holes from the arrows of opponents only because on the battlefield I met a woman - a warrior Ambu. In fact, it was cheating not just unacceptable, but unthinkable in those days. The woman could not come close to the place where the soldiers present each other with arguments. True, Amba was that day a trick in a male body, but Bhismadeva possessed spiritual vision, and therefore he lowered his weapon in front of her and stopped fighting. He respected the rules of warfare so that this act glorified him. Only then did the arrows of the enemies reach him. But even then delivering him incredible suffering did not kill him. Actually, it was impossible to kill him in principle. He was blessed to leave the body only of his own free will. Which he did, lying on the battlefield pierced by arrows like a hedgehog and not touching the ground with his body. He lay there for several months. At this time, the battle is over. But he still managed to give instructions to the survivors even in the presence of Krishna. Those. even Krishna Himself listened to the instructions of this pure soul and the greatest warrior.
So they called the tank correctly. Perhaps in Russian fairy tales only Ilya Muromets is a kind of semblance. Of the real heroes, probably Peresvet or Alexander Nevsky. In short, Bhisma - this in their own way does not happen.

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

Call a Russian even Mamed, even Abram - he will still be Russian, but because of the mismatch in the name he will often face problems))) I know what you wrote, as well as the fact that Bhishma in translation means "Terrible", therefore and wrote jokingly - formidable then formidable, but not Ivan)))

[Shuttle]

Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal

Call a Russian even Mamed, even Abram - he will still be Russian, but because of the mismatch in the name he will often face problems))) I know what you wrote, as well as the fact that Bhishma in translation means "Terrible", therefore and wrote jokingly - formidable then formidable, but not Ivan)))

Not formidable, but terrible, terrible. The same root word with the Sanskrit "bhaya" is fear, horror. I got this nickname because of the vows. And I was explaining the meaning of the Bhishma character in Indian Vedic mythology.

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

I am not a connoisseur of Vedic mythology, but I will know what they gave a more accurate translation. Thank!

[Al Asad]

Foolishly you can break anything

[DPN]

Surely a bad sand poured sand in India it is not measured.

[cradle]

a sand or a bad guy? Or both?

[Freedim]

While these disco dancers were dancing around the tank, the crow managed to make a nest in the trunk ..

[Old Operator]

Forgot to remove the cover from the barrel and shmalnuli ofs

[Brigadier]

Someone put sand in the trunk ...

[Doktor vatson]

Apparently, they did not try to carry out routine maintenance. Chocks, there are chocks ........