The new Minister of Defense of Ukraine was a former volunteer with a diploma of Oxford

Today Stepan Poltorak officially resigned as Minister of Defense of Ukraine. The Verkhovna Rada of the new convocation approved the new head of the military department "independent." Who became them?

According to the latest information, Andrei Zagorodniuk became the new Minister of Defense of Ukraine. He is 44 years old. He has little experience in the Ministry of Defense, but far from in the military field. Zagorodniuk served as head of the design service for the reform of this very department.

In addition, it is known that Mr. Zagorodniuk previously engaged in the so-called volunteer activities (he assisted the Armed Forces of Ukraine from 2014 of the year), and also worked in the mining sector (Discovery Drilling Equipment Company).

It is noteworthy that, in addition to a diploma of higher education, Shevchenko University of Kyiv has Zagorodniuk diplomas from the University of Warwick and Oxford.

314 deputies from 450 voted for Zagorodniuk’s candidacy. Moreover, against - only 25. The question immediately arises, but how did the other people's deputies vote. It turns out that more than fifty people did not vote at all, the rest abstained.

Upon assuming the post of head of the Ministry of Defense, Zagorodniuk announced his priorities in the new post. According to him, he will continue reforms in the ministry. The newly made minister noted that he, in particular, will continue to transfer the Ukrainian army to "real NATO standards."

Zagorodniuk:

APU should be an order of magnitude stronger and more prepared than the enemy.

Comments

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Come on !!! It is unlikely that you will find a diploma of education in Warwick and Oxford. Start with this at least ...

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: Observer2014

And what of the fact that at least I can’t find it?

And then. You started writing about the pedigree.

[A good one]

Quote: Observer2014

And what of the fact that at least I can’t find it? Likes to collect?

I'll collect both "Laek" and "Shooter" from orbit for you, it's good to flood, my joy.

[Honest Citizen]

The newly made minister noted that he, in particular, will continue to transfer the Ukrainian army to "real NATO standards."

It is unlikely that you will find a diploma about the education of Warwick and Oxford.

Yeah, without the diplomas of warwicks and oxfords, the transfer to the NATO standard is an unbearable burden ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Honest Citizen

Yeah, without the diplomas of warwicks and oxfords, the transfer to the NATO standard is an unbearable burden

In the first speech, he immediately began "European integration" As if they all had prepared cribs in their pockets.

[A good one]

Seryoga, didn’t you fall or do you have a ward? Did Yeltsin call you to Russia to talk to the radio? I can remind you and bring your crocodile tears, in your performance, do not upset me.

[ancestors from Don]

Does he have enough mind not to get into the next boiler?

[svp67]

Quote: ancestors from the Don

Does he have enough mind not to get into the next boiler?

This is what the NGSh should be concerned about, and the "Western" Ministry of Defense, the main task is to ask for money from the parliament and the president for porridge, shells, clothes and weapons ...

[210ox]

General plans fell into the cauldron .. True, with a compass to the north-south .. And this one has a stack of diplomas ... He knows what is equal to two plus two times two ..

[d1975]

Yes, God forbid, it would not be enough, maybe the world will come, although on the other side of the trench the motivation is dying out too ((((

[Normal ok]

Quote: Ancestors from the Don

Does he have enough mind not to get into the next boiler?

About "boilers" are usually written by those who are not familiar with the army, from the word in general. In Debaltsevo, for example, the losses of the attacking side went through the roof 1: 7. There is nothing to say about Izvarino, here the "north wind" ruined all the plans of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

[Antares]

Quote: Normal ok

losses of the attacking side went off scale 1: 7

it doesn’t matter "the loss is not there" is classified. It was not officially. dismissed yesterday. Egorov and Aleksandrov were not there either.

Quote: Normal ok

here the "north wind" ruined all the plans of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Well, there is an opinion that this option had to be calculated from Krymnashego .. And not to count on a walk along the border with an enemy who already had "permission to bring troops into Ukraine"
The shotgun was cocked .. And if the LDNR was finished quickly, the issue of Crimea would become sharper. And the group was already assembled along the way.

[Honest Citizen]

Let's publish our Shoigu family tree. Putin and Medvedev.

Right now, the "urapatriots" will quickly explain to you that it is "nashevsio" to touch the bottom.

[Russia]

Quote: Honest Citizen

Right now, the "urapatriots" will quickly explain to you that it is "nashevsio" to touch the bottom.

As the people say: bite, bite.

[svp67]

Quote: Observer2014

So what? Let's publish our Shoigu family tree. Putin and Medvedev. WHAT ?! Hereditary unique? Article stupidity

Sorry, but this is his biography, and what bad did you see in its listing? Or there, something is not correctly indicated?

[A good one]

No, Sergey he is bursting with his personal qualities, he came to Russia at one time, and claims to his being, like the three Americas.

[Reserve officer]

The main thing is not a gynecologist. Everything else is trifles.

[the finish]

Following Belarus, Armenia refused to participate in the September 1 event in Poland.

[210ox]

Honestly, I did not expect this from the current leadership of Armenia. Well done here, what can you say.

[the finish]

Wording.
"This is a matter of principle. We represent a country that was directly related to World War II. Our grandfathers fought in the Soviet army against Nazism. We made a colossal contribution to the common victory, and then, together with others, we defended our common great homeland (USSR - note TASS). And, of course, it is normal that in this matter we have a sensitive approach in terms of how such events are organized at different venues, "Mnatsakanyan said.
“You all know how Armenia contributed to the victory in this war, being part of the Soviet Union and the Soviet Army ... Our grandfathers fought, we had marshals, generals, Heroes of the Soviet Union. We made huge sacrifices, and, of course, this topic is very sensitive for us, ”said the Foreign Minister.

[Destiny]

"holds degrees from Warwick and Oxford Universities."
Everything is clear ..
"will continue to transfer the Ukrainian army to" real NATO standards. "
Who would doubt that.

[A good one]

I agree completely

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Destiny

"holds degrees from Warwick and Oxford Universities."

Interestingly, there are three "vyshaka", two of the bottom English ones. Who of those sitting here could just get two education in England. They pushed the lad well.

[Dietmar]

Now they have "Taburetkin" appeared. Navy put the tankman in command, now a clear upgrade!
In short, "freaked out the kids for the milk ..."

[210ox]

Oh well. Not a gynecologist ..

[Thrifty]

NATO, in order to meet the standards of the ACU, you need to drink too much alcohol!

[Kontrik]

Quote: Thrifty

NATO, in order to meet the standards of the ACU, you need to drink too much alcohol!

But on the fat bacon, this is already a problem on the outskirts! Only if a Polish or German watery .. It is forbidden to them to commit non-standard violation without permission of the Council of Europe))) Here they eat guards in the cellars

These are the warriors, winter is coming ...

[Thrifty]

Now we will listen to the same song about Russia-aggressor performed by a younger "singer" ???

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Thrifty

Now we will listen to the same song about Russia as an aggressor performed by a younger "singer" ???

I already started, listened to him, the first words "European integration", but had not yet had time to fuck Rossi, but he would have time.

[Lord of the Sith]

The newly made minister noted that he, in particular, will continue to transfer the Ukrainian army to “real NATO standards”

Before these standards, Ukraine as before China with cancer))

[Navigator111]

Do not rush the lady, you will tear your pants :-)
Everyone was cancer. And Poland and the Baltic states .... but it turned out (((

[Thrifty]

"The WUU should be an order of magnitude stronger." .. so after all, it seems like the tales of a little paroshenka and so the strongest army in Europe, but what is there of Europe-Eurasia! !! Where are we to them

[dauria]

"The WUU should be an order of magnitude stronger."

Three "upper" formations. I should know that "by an order of magnitude" is 10 times. By two orders of magnitude - 100 times. The young man swung hard. I decided to surpass all NATU in the number of tanks, aerplanes and ships. This is with two inflatable boats.

[Thrifty]

dauria '- not the top three, but three surface formations are visible here !!!

[Avior]

I must know that "by an order of magnitude" is 10 times.

More than 10 times - this is only in special terms of mathematics.
In Russian, an order of magnitude is much more.

Type and syntax properties of a combination

on order

Sustainable combination.


Semantic properties
Value

mate. ten times (more or less), usually an approximate and inaccurate value ◆ Thirdly, mercury has a rather large coefficient of thermal expansion - only one and a half times less than water, and an order of magnitude, or even two, more than ordinary metals. B. Kazakov, “Mercury”, 1968 // “Chemistry and Life” (quote from the National Corps of the Russian Language, see References)
trans. many times, many times ◆ When meeting Lenin, he immediately vaguely felt that this man possessed something beyond what was given to him, Krasin, by some knowledge an order of magnitude higher. V. P. Aksyonov, “Love of Electricity”, 1969 (quote from the National Corps of the Russian Language, see References)

Synonyms

several times

For some reason, this question often pops up.

[dauria]

For some reason, this question often pops up.

Probably because writers borrow terms from science for greater importance. "Integrate, differentiated, median, entropy, etc." This is not counting the new fashion for English words. Let them use it, but at least not distort the real meaning. For example, a differential is a tiny difference tending to zero. And in the phrase "differentiated approach" they already mean "special approach". Entropy has become synonymous with chaos, although it has nothing to do with either chaos or order, but just the Boltzmann constant multiplied by the weight coefficient (probability) Well, say so. The Russian language is rich enough to write "hollow" instead of "troll"

[Avior]

I think the word order, as the definition of a rank in a number, also came from the language, and in the decimal system, the number I means ten times.
The word differential in mathematics and mechanics means completely different concepts, and electricians have differential protection - another, just the word is clearly foreign, and when it got into Russian, some nuances of use and translation were lost, so the connection between different uses of the word is not obvious to us.

[Ka-52]

The word differential in mathematics and mechanics means completely different concepts, and electricians have differential protection - another, just the word is clearly foreign, and when it got into Russian, some nuances of use and translation were lost, so the connection between different uses of the word is not obvious to us.

in a frequently used combination, the word "differentiated" most likely means stepwise, segmented. And according to Wiktionary, it comes from the Latin "differentiare" (different). To be honest, I myself often use this word with exactly the same meaning.

[dauria]

and electricians have differential protection-

Just for electricians, differential protection (difavtomat or only RCD) in almost the correct meaning is a device that detects the minimum difference in the outgoing and returning currents in comparison with the current value. For example, the "leakage" current is 30 milliamps versus 40 amperes in the load. .

[Avior]

For electricians, a differential relay is simply a device that triggers when the current difference in the two wires is different at a certain threshold value.
For example, they use such a relay if it is necessary to control the integrity of two light bulbs, in car frames and others.
If one burns out, there will be no current in the circuit.

[kit88]

This indicates the level of general education of this individual. Having 3 higher education, two of them, it’s scary to think, Oxford and something else there, does not understand what is an order of magnitude. There you have it, Oxford.
Although they rewrote the history textbooks, maybe they have already taken up mathematics. How long skillfully.

[Kontrik]

He has little experience in the Ministry of Defense, but far from in the military field

And he doesn’t need it, all manuals from the USA-Israel come .. The main thing is that the Russophobian hysteria does not decrease, and EVERYTHING!

APU should be an order of magnitude stronger and more prepared than the enemy.

What should be proved, did not have time to take office and immediately such a statement .. hehe State Department is satisfied!

[anjey]

APU should be an order of magnitude stronger and more prepared than the enemy.

If we put aside the template of the "Ukrainian enemy" that has set the teeth on edge, hypothetically, any country in the world can be an enemy, so the Armed Forces of Ukraine is getting ready and preparing, especially after Trump's very positive words about cutting financial support for the Armed Forces of Ukraine

[ODERVIT]

It is difficult to imagine how everything will turn out once again. But obviously - it will not be boring.

[Navigator111]

.Zagorodniuk - ex-head of the project office of the Ministry of Defense reform, studied at the Kiev National University. T. Shevchenko, University of Warwick and the University of Oxford. He has over 16 years of experience in senior positions in the mining and manufacturing industries. Since 2014 - a public activist, volunteer of the Armed forces of Ukraine. On July 5, 2019, he was appointed freelance adviser to President Zelensky.

Yes, everything is clear. It is necessary for cleaning the generals, those who still had a military education in the USSR. Who has connections with colleagues in Russia.
The role that Serdyukov performed.

[HAM]

"... The role played by Serdyukov ...."

Most likely you are right ...... one thing is surprising, why not a woman, it would be so in European ... NATO style.

[16329]

This is a very good minister, the fight against the generals and “NATO standards, the very thing that in the end to finish off this swamp, in the present conditions it is very good, everything is going in the right direction.

[E.S.]

Quote: Observer2014

He is 44 years old. He has little experience in the Ministry of Defense, but far from in the military field. Zagorodniuk served as head of the design service for the reform of this very department.

So what? Let's publish our Shoigu family tree. Putin and Medvedev. WHAT ?! Hereditary unique? Article stupidity. Yes, even the very statement of the issue in the article is guano.

Well, read the genealogy of Putin.
You will find out that his uncle, his mother’s brother, commanded the river flotilla and was the author of the landing plan behind the Finnish rear in 1944, he personally led it in the first wave of the landing.
As a result, the Finns realized that the northern fur animal was running towards them and abruptly gathered up somewhere, abandoning the fortifications they were digging, gnawing at the rocks and concreting for three years

[E.S.]

The de facto standard of NATO has long been a female defense minister. As well as political correctness and the fight against homophobia.
So I thought, on what point does he personally meet the living standards

[Honest Citizen]

The de facto standard of NATO has long been a female defense minister.

Those. Minister of Defense of Ukraine - is it like a woman? Oh mine goth! Damn it! And so he disguised himself - and SO pierced ...

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

In order to really switch to NATO standards, first, the Minister of Defense had to appoint not a "successful manager" with an Oxford diploma, but a gynecologist, as it was in Germany, or an orderly with experience in a psychiatric hospital for the former military of the Great US Army, but with Ukrainian roots, .. and what is possible in the Ministry of Health of Ukraine (the entire EU and NATO recognize the reforms of Suprun in accordance with EU standards))), but in the Ministry of Defense it is impossible ???

[usr01]

Gospadya ..... Well, why do I need this joy ..... ???

[Russia]

Indeed, the sun is shining and that is good.

[Ravil_Asnafovich]

In Ukraine, whoever you want to appoint, it will still be because they will want from phasington.

[Baloo]

In the info about the next south-western-western-western cheburator, the main thing is not said: profile education, specialist with what with three diplomas? And finally, the main thing: does he only have a Ukrainian passport or a couple more for a rainy day? It is clear so far that our powder must be dry and new provocations are awaiting us against the bridge, the Crimea and the continuation of the massacre in the Donbass.

[Vladimir]

Or maybe it’s already enough to appoint to the post of the Defense Ministry mediocre and pouty generals.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Vladimir 

Or maybe it’s already enough to appoint to the post of the Defense Ministry mediocre and pouty generals.

Is this type gifted? His dad is the owner of a drilling rig company and adviser to Azarov, and his son:

In 2005, he founded Discovery Drilling Equipment, a company specializing in the design, manufacture and servicing of drilling rigs, and became its CEO.

https://ria.ru/20190829/1558035413.html
In general, nothing is new under the moon.

[E.S.]

Quote: Honest Citizen

The de facto standard of NATO has long been a female defense minister.

Those. Minister of Defense of Ukraine - is it like a woman? Oh mine goth! Damn it! And so he disguised himself - and SO pierced ...

Can a representative of any minorities, but I also mentioned political correctness and tolerance

[Ferdinant]

Advisers will tell him what to do.

[rocket757]

We had a furniture maker, a tax specialist, these volunteer driller .... not the point. What happens, they themselves will see.

[demo]

Volunteer will continue volunteering as head of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
Let's go.

[K-50]

What is the viable "fashion" of civilian shpaks to appoint Defense Ministers? Yes, even women, sir, does it happen?
What do they understand? Or how was it in the early Union: every cook can rule the country?

[Avior]

Share posts with the chief of staff.

[Egoza]

What are you all so unhappy with? Poorly read the article! In the same place, he clearly said that he would carry out reforms in the Ministry (and not in the army). Again, he will rewrite the "NATO standards", but they still need to be translated into Ukrainian! While they will be transferred, while they figure out where to get something for these very standards, at least for food, how much money is needed for this, where to get it, or, according to the old volunteer habit, from whom to rip off ... long and fruitful writing. And do it? We don't even follow the orders of the "supreme", but here is some minister! They made fun.

[Navigator111]

What to translate? Stanagi in English :-)
They began to be taught back in 2008 in preparation for the Sea Breeze.
The Englishwoman arrived, conducted classes in English with officers.
I didn’t sit in class :-)
But she saw an Englishwoman, she lived on the second luxury floor in a hotel. Then three lived there. She, nachprod and me on a business trip.
So we prepared for a long time, even under Yushchenko.

[Egoza]

Quote: Navigator111

They began to be taught back in 2008 in preparation for the Sea Breeze.

Start learning a little! You also have to learn the language! And knowing the current warriors, who are not very good at home either ... "I am failing, I am failing"
And the standards have changed since then.

[Navigator111]

Learn, the language is simple.
The stanags have not changed. These are the protocols. They taught communication, medicine, and the salvation of a peaceful people.
I have the originals, copied myself.
Maybe it has changed below.
Then there was no IFAC, quicklot, turnstile.
These are a first-aid kit, a blood-groove and plaits.
There were Canadian, with a rhombus-square. (Tension adjustment).
But the basics are the same.

[Reserve officer]

Elena, here it’s not about the article that we are talking about in the comments, but about the general situation in the army. The article is a passing statement, and it is not discussed here. She is just a reason to talk.
If someone is interested in my opinion, then appointing civilians to such a position is the path to the collapse of the army. If you have any objections, then look at the results of the work of our furniture maker and a German gynecologist.

[Navigator111]

Stage. Like Ezhov under Stalin. He did the thing and put Kolya against the wall.
Like Serdyukov, he cleaned the generals so that the Supreme did not fear conspiracies.
What Ivanov did. The same gigantic moves, only less blood. Although Rokhlin and others .... there are questions.

[Kramb]

Strange, but the article did not mention much.

In his speech before the vote, the future minister expressed the opinion that the Ukrainian armed forces are as strong as the personnel.

“The main thing that needs to be done is to turn the state policy, which the Ministry of Defense should implement with the support of the government, facing a simple soldier. This should be number one priority, ”said Zagorodniuk.

For the last three years, Andrei Zagorodniuk has been working in the Ministry of Defense as the head of the reform office, where he was involved in reforming the ministry and the armed forces. Until 2014, he was an absolutely civilian and had nothing to do with the army, except for training in the military department at the university.

[Navigator111]

Shoigu has no chair :-)
After fees and state fees, students take the oath. At the military unit. And this has to do with the army.

[cat Rusich]

It is a pity that the commander-in-chief "ZE "there was an opportunity to appoint" minister of attack "Nadia (by the way Nadezhda Savchenko Hero of Ukraine - captain of the reserve) or Julia (Yulia Tymoshenko - boy-woman ...)

[Navigator111]

Julia has not yet served her past.
But Nadia needs to be treated. Really, in a mental hospital.

[German Titov]

"Oxword" is of course power! Where should we jump with "soveyskiy education". "Vata" is not "Ryazan" for you, it is "OXWORD". Cordially glad. (junior sergeant in the DRA, junior lieutenant in the SA of the USSR Armed Forces, and further along the knurled one). To me "to the lamb" that it "finished". As I understand it from the rhetoric, "there will be no peace"? It means "we will work, BROTHERS"!

[kefan]

They have a "good" team there.

[Moreno]

[media = Another dol ..... b. Sorry! ]

[sgr291158]

The booth, the clown is preparing a new show,

[Ros 56]

It seems like they write educated, but begins to engage in verbiage. If you use the expression "by an order", it means "ten times" and this expression comes from the arithmetic of primary classes. Well, the flag in his hands and a drum around his neck and at the head of the column going on an erotic journey on foot. I was dreaming.

[Nitarius]

Well .. KAPUT came from where they did not wait .... Fascists from the USA got to power! hand-fed

[Elephant]

The new minister is a well-trained agent of influence with an Oxford diploma.

[In the clouds]

Interestingly, in our government - is there at least someone with an Oxford diploma? I'm not talking about Shoigu - everything is clear with him))), but, for example, is Chubais there or Medvedev or Siluanov, Golikova, at least someone? You can’t steer the country with a veterinarian’s diploma, or is it possible?

[datur]

GOODS AND DIVERSIONS ARE PROVIDED !!!