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The young generation and the US Army: "stolen childhood"

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In the liberal editions of Russia, along with editions of Western countries, one can often find materials about the “Russian military”. The meaning of the materials is that in Russia children are "taken away from their childhood" by writing to all kinds of "army camps". Are there no military-patriotic camps and military-patriotic education for the young generation in the West? Find out.




The “terrible” reports of Western journalists tell us that in Russian military-patriotic camps and in life-saving lessons in schools, children are taught how to disassemble and assemble Kalashnikov assault rifles for a while, try on military uniforms, military uniforms and other military attributes.

For the western citizen, as well as for the admirer of ultra-liberal values ​​in Russia itself, all this looks like a "militaristic nightmare" and fits into the concept of "Russia preparing for an aggressive war."

At the same time, in the West they are trying to bypass the topic related to the fact that the cadre military are engaged in the basics of military training in their own countries. Such data in the NATO countries is somehow not customary to cover in the press. Another thing is to talk about “aggressive Russia.”

Fun starts with army stretchers for 4-year-old boys in the USA:


The so-called "motivational day" - stories about serving in the US Army for schoolchildren (and not only for American):




Imagine how the Western press could react if the soldier, the child and the tank were not American, but Russian. Perhaps we would read the following: "A Russian soldier, against the will of the child, is trying to push him into the tank." And in one of the American divisions they describe it like this: "Our future tanker."

Children are shown the principle of controlling a drone:


The courses of the so-called scouts and young rangers in the United States have been around for decades. But at the same time in the Western press this is not called the term "stolen childhood."
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  1. Andrey Chistyakov
    Andrey Chistyakov 29 August 2019 11: 08
    +28
    The liberals are again upside down. But as always.
    They took it from children in the 90s. Giving kindergartens as "hotels".
    Not building new ones. Pioneer camps ... And much more ...
    1. Aleksandre
      Aleksandre 29 August 2019 11: 30
      +5
      Tellingly, the term "doublethink" was coined by an English writer. Although some narrow-minded individuals believed then, as they imply now, that it was exclusively about the USSR.
    2. neri73-r
      neri73-r 29 August 2019 11: 33
      +22
      If the boys play war games and the girls play dolls and mothers, then we won’t have any vile LGBT people, and men always hang the cradles on the enemy, which liberals and the West don’t like.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 29 August 2019 11: 48
        +8
        Quote: neri73-r
        If the boys play war games and the girls play dolls and mothers, then we won’t have any vile LGBT people, and men always hang the cradles on the enemy, which liberals and the West don’t like.


        1. Alena Frolovna
          Alena Frolovna 29 August 2019 12: 33
          +5
          The liberals again ...

          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 29 August 2019 12: 39
            +8
            It’s necessary to educate the Patriots from such years
            1. whack
              whack 29 August 2019 13: 46
              +2
              look with what accuracy and speed this general gives a military salutation !!!!!!!!!!!!! bravo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 29 August 2019 13: 56
                +2
                Quote: whacked
                look with what accuracy and speed this general gives a military salutation !!!!!!!!!!!!! bravo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                And how do the soldiers respond !!! good
                1. faridg7
                  faridg7 29 August 2019 16: 40
                  -1
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  Quote: whacked
                  look with what accuracy and speed this general gives a military salutation !!!!!!!!!!!!! bravo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                  And how do the soldiers respond !!! good

                  But the soldiers do not answer according to the charter. In the ranks of the unit, the hand does not rise to the headdress.
                  1. Lipchanin
                    Lipchanin 29 August 2019 16: 45
                    +2
                    Quote: faridg7
                    But the soldiers do not answer according to the charter. In the ranks of the unit, the hand does not rise to the headdress.

                    So they are no longer keeping up.
                    But I wanted to say something else, with what pleasure they respond and with what sympathy they look at the boy. smile
                    1. faridg7
                      faridg7 29 August 2019 16: 55
                      +1
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      But I wanted to say something else, with what pleasure and with what sympathy they look at the boy smile

                      Yes but
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      So they are no longer keeping up.

                      Our foreman is not on them. My step is still reflexively aligned with fellow travelers. I will never forget how we were prepared for the parade in Khabarovsk in 1990. At first, they started to drive to the school for 3 months, and then they took the whole battalion to Khabarovsk and spent almost 8 hours drill drill there for a month ... The most annoying thing is that I was doing drill training together with everyone, but I didn’t get into the dress calculation, well, no chance at all - 164.
      2. Honest Citizen
        Honest Citizen 29 August 2019 12: 12
        +6
        If the boys play war games and the girls play dolls and mothers, then we won’t have any vile LGBT people, and men always hang the cradles on the enemy, which liberals and the West don’t like.

        Gold words. I would also add that in the days of the USSR, heroes were raised from children. The boys wanted to become pilots, cosmonauts, sailors - i.e. anyway "heroic professions". And now - watching TV - the feeling that you are being dipped in guano, and also poured over it.
        1. Alena Frolovna
          Alena Frolovna 29 August 2019 12: 39
          +14
          The boys wanted to become ...


          On September 1, my nephew and all the children at school are asked:
          - And what do you want to become?
          The first answers:
          - To the cops.
          - And who are you?
          Second:
          “Also the cops.”
          Third:
          - The military.
          (and so on)
          The line reaches the nephew:
          - And what do you want to become?
          - I want to become a scientist.
          Later, we come home, I ask:
          “Sasha, so you wanted to become a spy, and why did you tell scientists?”
          To which I get a very logical answer:
          “So the cops gathered around me, you shouldn't say that to them, I'm a spy!”
          [iFrom the web [/ i]
      3. lis-ik
        lis-ik 29 August 2019 15: 36
        +2
        Quote: neri73-r
        If the boys play war games and the girls play dolls and mothers, then we won’t have any vile LGBT people, and men always hang the cradles on the enemy, which liberals and the West don’t like.

        And there is nothing to add! Short and capacious.
    3. taiga2018
      taiga2018 29 August 2019 11: 37
      +6
      Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
      This they took away in the 90s childhood from children.

      a new generation has grown up who did not feel this and they perceive stories about the 90s as fables, which means that they are again ready to follow liberal adventurers ...
      1. Andrey Chistyakov
        Andrey Chistyakov 29 August 2019 11: 43
        +5
        Quote: taiga2018
        Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
        This they took away in the 90s childhood from children.

        a new generation has grown up who did not feel this and they perceive stories about the 90s as fables, which means that they are again ready to follow liberal adventurers ...

        Well yes. There is such a thing. I conduct explanatory conversations with youth at work. About the 90s.
        Listen open mouth in the literal sense.
        1. taiga2018
          taiga2018 29 August 2019 12: 00
          +4
          Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
          Listen open mouth in the literal sense.

          Yes, anyone who has survived these years can tell such a story, only those who are already poisoned by the ideas of liberal adventurers are unlikely to hear something, and if they hear they will say that this is propaganda, that now everything will be completely different ...
      2. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 29 August 2019 12: 18
        +2
        And I remember, I remember, conversations about getting a job in the 90s in stalls or those markets, and they were glad of that ... only minors were often "thrown for money". Of course, these were the sons of ordinary parents, those who had difficulties with work and retirement in their new life.
    4. Phil77
      Phil77 29 August 2019 11: 46
      +3
      So after all, among this * unread * audience, it has long been believed that their own is always bad, but in the * enlightened * west !! Well, it’s just that everything is perfectly fine. They cannot be convinced otherwise, and is it necessary?
      1. Andrey Chistyakov
        Andrey Chistyakov 29 August 2019 11: 49
        +3
        Quote: Phil77
        So after all, among this * unread * audience, it has long been believed that their own is always bad, but in the * enlightened * west !! Well, it’s just that everything is perfectly fine. They cannot be convinced otherwise, and is it necessary?

        Hello. If there weren’t the 90s they would be believed. And so no longer a ride.
        What an example to go far. Everything is nearby. Ukraine-Georgia-Armenia-Baltic States with the elderly ...
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 29 August 2019 11: 55
          +4
          Greetings to you, Andrey! You know, unfortunately, it’s still rolling. There were a lot of young people at recent recent opposition rallies in Moscow. And how these * representatives of the non-systemic opposition * know how to work with young people * I don’t need to explain to you. But something needs to be done, it’s not too late. This Sable came from somewhere! It looks like a direct copy of a dog, but younger.
          1. Andrey Chistyakov
            Andrey Chistyakov 29 August 2019 11: 58
            +3
            Quote: Phil77
            Greetings to you, Andrey! You know, unfortunately, it’s still rolling. There were a lot of young people at recent recent opposition rallies in Moscow. And how these * representatives of the non-systemic opposition * know how to work with young people * I don’t need to explain to you. But something needs to be done, it’s not too late. This Sable came from somewhere! It looks like a direct copy of a dog, but younger.

            How from where ?! Grants. Plus the "honest" Khodorkovsky finances. Well, the one who "gave his word that he would not conduct any bad activity against Russia.
            1. Phil77
              Phil77 29 August 2019 12: 03
              -1
              So it’s clear with this! But the current government, in particular the government, plays into the hands of these protests in many respects! It’s another matter that * these * do not have a worthy leader, but (ellipsis) is a two-edged sword.
          2. Honest Citizen
            Honest Citizen 29 August 2019 12: 17
            +1
            And how these * representatives of the non-systemic opposition * know how to work with youth is not for me * to explain to you

            The saddest thing is that "patriots" do not know how to work with young people, or do not want to learn. The current patriotic camps for toddlers are when parents are normal and understand what's what.
            Remember the failed project "Nashi" - after all, the idea was originally good - who "fucked up" it? Yes, a bureaucrat appointed "from above".
            So it turns out - that we want one thing, but "enthusiasts" in their field - no.
            But the "non-systemic" quickly, I would even say instantly, feel that the youth needs it. Well, of course, until our state pays close attention to the problems of young people, this will continue, alas.
            1. Phil77
              Phil77 29 August 2019 21: 25
              +1
              Well, like a cherry on a cake: today's decision of the Medvedev government to pay * debt * to European functionaries! Reasonable? I suppose not!
          3. Doctorleg
            Doctorleg 29 August 2019 12: 57
            -4
            What do you dislike about her? Does she want to destroy Russia? Did she tell you that? Or have you heard this from anyone? People just want fair elections. Are you so afraid of them? Why? After all, you are convinced that the majority supports EP (Putin, Sobyanin, etc., etc .. - choose for yourself). Well, show it in the election !. And as for the collection of signatures, I can say the following. A few years ago, my friend decided to go to the municipal deputies. He himself worked in the elections and knew very well how to collect signatures. Therefore, he collected them personally (there are not so many of them needed) and was sure of who he collected the signatures from. However, they were declared invalid. The authorities show - do not sit at the table with the katala - you still lose. And he is not shy about it, observing only the form of refusal. It suits you? - I'm not there. I want to choose power and refuse to trust her if she deserves it.
            1. Phil77
              Phil77 29 August 2019 17: 21
              +3
              Dear Doc, And with what fright should I like this impudent person? I wouldn’t have any complaints to her if this person pretending to be a champion of the struggle for social .. justice and fair elections were a role model. But (ellipsis) there are several apartments in the capital, there are several land plots in the suburbs of Moscow. Are there too many fund for the lawyer, eh? By the way, according to the lists, very big questions. there is, which makes her even more like the daughter of a famous father.
            2. neri73-r
              neri73-r 30 August 2019 00: 15
              0
              Quote: DoctorOleg
              A few years ago, my friend decided to go to the municipal deputies. He himself worked in the elections and knew very well how to collect signatures. Therefore, he collected them personally (there are not so many of them needed) and was sure of who he collected the signatures from. However, they were declared invalid.

              Tale and stuffing, the goal is to instill the opinion that
              Quote: DoctorOleg
              The authorities show - do not sit down at the table with a katala - you still lose.

              Quote: DoctorOleg
              People just want fair elections. Are you so afraid of them? Why?

              Because the elections are NOT a priori honest, they are imposed on us by the West (in the form in which they exist) and allow us to impose power through them and control our power.
    5. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 29 August 2019 13: 24
      0
      Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
      They took it from children in the 90s. Giving kindergartens as "hotels".

      And no one punished them for this.
  2. skinar
    skinar 29 August 2019 11: 13
    +10
    It is very difficult for me to imagine a boy who would not like weapons and military aesthetics. Remembering myself, trips to border outposts, military units (especially amphibious assault forces) for all the guys in the class were a holiday, and when they gave me to hold in my hands not just the AK-74, but something more special (the BCC, Dragunova, and I especially remember the PC), then the turn to stand it was necessary_))) soldier
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 29 August 2019 11: 13
    +4
    All over the world, at all times, boys do not play with dolls and candy wrappers!
    What is the problem then?
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 29 August 2019 11: 16
      +5
      but the fact that in Russia these are aggressive boys and in the world are good) you see the difference)))
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 29 August 2019 12: 03
        +2
        Quote: carstorm 11
        but the fact that in Russia these are aggressive boys and in the world are good) you see the difference)))

        It's strange, on the one hand ... but on the other, my boys, if anything, for "extravagant" hints, they can charge a table with a face or take a reception, after which there will be nothing to hint at !!!
        Aren't they cuties !!!
      2. Doctorleg
        Doctorleg 29 August 2019 13: 10
        -4
        Who told you that? The author of the article? Did you yourself read western articles on this subject? In addition, how many people, so many opinions. One article criticizes, another supports. And what will you consider the opinion of the West ?. On VO, and indeed on the Internet, some article or someone else’s statement was passed off as an opinion of the West. It’s the same as giving an article in Novaya Gazeta as an opinion of Russia. But actually, I would like to see less aggression in the world. Of course, the boys are drawn to arms - this is inherent in us by nature - we males must defend and conquer the territory. When a stronger lion drives away or kills another, we do not say that he acts immorally. Do you want the same? Law of the jungle. Then do not be offended that there is someone stronger.
        And the military in life and on television began to have many, constantly broadcasts about weapons (both historical and about what cool we have done right now), how the main news goes messages about any maneuvers, they instill a sense of the imminent start of the war.
        By the way, I liked the weapon, but we are going to walk and obey orders unquestioningly - fire. Barely 2 years ago - 1986-1988. Army vaccine for life
        1. neri73-r
          neri73-r 30 August 2019 00: 17
          -1
          Quote: DoctorOleg
          Barely 2 years ago - 1986-1988. Army vaccine for life

          You are our poor, did not change your gender in exile?
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 29 August 2019 11: 53
      +5
      Quote: rocket757
      What is the problem then?

      Yes, not a problem, a problem.
      In our liberals. Didn’t you notice that the stench from them has recently become more?
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 29 August 2019 12: 07
        +3
        Yes, it seemed like there was an idea, for these guys to allow "Hyde Park" ... just let them equip themselves, if they know how to work at all! Then let them go out there!
        And Churchill, a smart guy was a man ... although he was a reptile one hundred percent!
      2. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 29 August 2019 12: 32
        +3
        the stench got bigger By May 9, lies and screams which year. From scribblers, artists and other paid performers. The impression that they are "preparing" for a long time, and for the holidays - are activated.
    3. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 29 August 2019 12: 27
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      All over the world, at all times, boys do not play with dolls and candy wrappers!
      What is the problem then?
      In my opinion, Victor, the problem is that there scouts and Hitler youths turned out there. And as for our ----, apparently they fear that the Oktyabrat and the pioneers will return. And there you see the Komsomol members. Most likely they are afraid of this.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 29 August 2019 12: 35
        +2
        Hi Dmitry soldier
        There will be no going back! If we "extort" anything, it is new, but it does not lose its essence!
        Our boys grow up WARRIORS, DEFENDERS ... without any!
        That's what they are there over the hill and are afraid of! That our boys will again face them on the table to explain how much they are wrong !!! Like many generations of them, our ancestors!
        Do not shame!
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 29 August 2019 12: 42
          +1
          There will be no going back---? What is this about, Victor? What will their youth prepare against us? laughing Somehow I did not catch. I want the October and Pioneers to appear with us. I had such a dream. Did not happen.
          1. Doctorleg
            Doctorleg 29 August 2019 13: 14
            0
            I do not want. Especially the Komsomol. I was there in the early 80s. Even then it was an extremely formalist organization. These are boring gatherings with meaningless words. The consequence of an almost mandatory entry for a career. Type where you will get from the submarine. In general, I wonder how many fans of VO have no alternative.
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 29 August 2019 13: 18
              +2
              laughing lovers of non-alternativity? Wow! Probably not only here! Only no alternatives are very different wassat
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 29 August 2019 13: 56
                +1
                Quote: Reptiloid
                I want the October and Pioneers to appear with us. I had such a dream.

                Never say NEVER!
                Our desires, this is the tenth thing, is an objective reality!
                It is IMPOSSIBLE to just return everything back! Without excessive violence, which we hardly need, this time! There is no one to return to these two! Our society has changed, it's three!
                It is necessary to create a new one, preferably taking into account the lessons of the past! This requires the unity of all, or at least a significant group of people united by one idea!
                Neither one nor the other is observed, so the confusion can last a long time!
                We will be realistic and if there are dreams, desires, ideas, we must go to them !!! look for your way, like-minded people, associates ..... the road will be overpowered by the going one!
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 29 August 2019 22: 47
                  +1
                  Quote: rocket757
                  ....... It is simply IMPOSSIBLE to return everything back! ...... There is no one to return it to two! Our society has changed, it's three!
                  It is necessary to create a new one, preferably taking into account the lessons of the past! This requires the unity of all, or at least a significant group of people united by one idea!
                  Neither one nor the other is observed, so the confusion can last a long time!
                  We will be realistic and if there are dreams, desires, ideas, we must go to them !!! look for your way, like-minded people, associates ..... the road will be overpowered by the going one!
                  Some observers (or political scientists ??) say that both ideas and associations appear at the time of serious crises. Sometime it will happen, in my opinion, because certain infringements occur. And will happen ....
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 30 August 2019 06: 37
                    0
                    Quote: Reptiloid
                    Some observers (or political scientists ??) say that both ideas and associations appear at the time of serious crises.

                    And in "normal" time there is both! Here is a burst of activity, expansion, support for some ideas, associations during the crisis, this is a common occurrence!
                    After all, nothing new, because it was ALWAYS!
                    Now, perhaps, on the eve of the crisis, therefore, in general, different activities can increase!
      2. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 29 August 2019 23: 04
        +1
        Quote: Reptiloid
        that there scouts and Hitler youths turned out.

        Scouts were in the USSR. So far, the OGPU has not taken up them. By the way, a pioneer in contrast to the scouts organized.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 29 August 2019 23: 12
          +1
          Good day, Vladimir! scouts in the USSR? This is a very long time, but I'm interested in something else.
          I read children's magazines of the post-revolutionary period. It seems to him that everything is fine, that there was no famine, no devastation, no civil war. And ideological education, even for the little ones ---- it was!
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 29 August 2019 23: 22
            +1
            Quote: Reptiloid
            I read children's magazines of the post-revolutionary period.

            I had "Entertaining Physics" published in 1946, i.e. actually published immediately after the war. So you can't say from it that it came out in difficult years, and the author died of hunger in besieged Leningrad.
            Quote: Reptiloid
            And ideological education, even for the little ones ---- it was!

            It was. But the scout movement was supervised by the White Guards.
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 29 August 2019 23: 47
              +1
              And I’m still interested in such --- WICK and I WANT TO KNOW EVERYTHING. good I look on the network gradually.
              Quote: mordvin xnumx
              .....It was. But the scout movement was supervised by the White Guards.
              Even now they oversee a lot of different things, ----- a monarchical project, a project of repentance ..... But they themselves somehow did not repent.
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 30 August 2019 00: 00
                +1
                Quote: Reptiloid
                And I’m still interested in such --- WICK and I WANT TO KNOW EVERYTHING.

                Both that and another in the USSR constantly in cinemas before showing a film twisted. good I'm going to sleep.
            2. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 30 August 2019 09: 47
              +1
              Quote: mordvin xnumx
              was the "Entertaining Physics" 1946 edition,

              I know I know! Author Yakov Isidorovich Perelman! Searched, checked, FOUND BOTH VOLUMES !!! The most beautiful book! + I also have "Entertaining Algebra" "by the same author!
              I always wanted to buy his books "Entertaining Geometry" and "Entertaining Astronomy" ... But it didn't work out.
    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 29 August 2019 13: 35
      +4
      Quote: rocket757
      All over the world, at all times, boys do not play with dolls and candy wrappers!
      What is the problem then?

      This is if the toys were. And we had from childhood, fishing, hunting. The family was helped to feed. My grandfather shotgun 16 caliber TOZ single-barrel for 7 years gave (160 rub.). Every generation and every nation has its own games. I really don’t understand, but what kind of games did the United States children and the children of these liberals play and do?
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 29 August 2019 14: 02
        +2
        Quote: tihonmarine
        This is if the toys were.

        Well, wasn’t it right at all?
        Quote: tihonmarine
        The family was helped to feed.

        This is the path of many, but in the USSR there was no such extreme! In the Land of Soviets, the state took care of its "children" really, and not on paper!
        Quote: tihonmarine
        I really don’t understand, but what kind of games did the United States children and the children of these liberals play and are playing?

        All children are the same, interests, games are similar .... if parents or anyone else, brains are not on one side!
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 29 August 2019 14: 32
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          Well, wasn’t it right at all?

          I lived more with my grandfather, fishing only on me. Hunting hares, birds too. Firstly, it is interesting to weld home. It's nice when they praise, and the grandfather says, "I've already become an adult."
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 29 August 2019 14: 42
            +2
            Quote: tihonmarine
            I lived with my grandfather more,

            Grandfather, Grandmother ... fishing, garden, chopper and watering can !!! Everything is familiar, such a normal childhood! But the wooden machine, a saber and other attributes of Malchish Kibalchish !!! where without them.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 29 August 2019 15: 08
              +3
              Quote: rocket757
              But the machine is wooden

              In 7 years gun TOZ 16 cal. Single barrel, hammer (cost 160 rubles), after 10 years "Arisaka", then KO-44. Children just played with wooden ones.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 29 August 2019 16: 24
                +1
                Silks, traps, how to catch gophers I know, they taught ..... and so I'm closer ohan, imported, i.e. sturgeon, black caviar and other, catfish under my two growths! We river fish-eaters, but we don’t count game from them. The reserve, protection ..... in short, it is clear.
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 29 August 2019 16: 37
                  +2
                  Quote: rocket757
                  sturgeon, black caviar and other,

                  And we only have red.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 29 August 2019 17: 19
                    +1
                    You even have it! And we only remained in our memory! No sturgeon, eat, yes the environment is not ah! There is no water in the Volga, where can the sturgeon come from.
                    1. tihonmarine
                      tihonmarine 29 August 2019 20: 32
                      +1
                      Quote: rocket757
                      You even have it! And we only remained in our memory!

                      Yes, it used to be high. When he served everyone was sent to harvest the virgin lands, and we were sent to watermelons in the Astrakhan region, my platoon was based at the Astrakhan and Caspian state farms, but there was a time, still drooling. Three seasons worked.
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 29 August 2019 20: 44
                        +1
                        I think then not drooling, but something else! Watermelons, they are, "taps" open at once!
                      2. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 29 August 2019 20: 47
                        +1
                        Quote: rocket757
                        Watermelons, they are, "taps" open at once!

                        Watermelons at 10 years ate, but from the black caviar, sterlet and ram in the beer, I write and drool.
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 29 August 2019 20: 54
                        +1
                        Caviar is tight or expensive ..... but roach, balyk and beer are cold, tasty, it is possible!
                        True, in our country, the most affordable fish is dushman ... i.e. white carp, Schaub not a tail of feathers! There are already lakes, where only he and the pike, toothy, all the reptiles ate!
                        Although it is cyprinid, it is not called by us otherwise than SPIRIT.
                      4. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 29 August 2019 22: 25
                        +1
                        Quote: rocket757
                        but roach, balyk and beer are cold, tasty, it is possible!
                        Thank you, already choked with saliva!
                  2. Reptiloid
                    Reptiloid 29 August 2019 23: 00
                    +1
                    Quote: tihonmarine
                    .... And we only have red.
                    I didn’t understand then, I didn’t want and complained that my mom was forcing me to eat .... But I mastered and helped the procurement technology.
                    1. rocket757
                      rocket757 30 August 2019 06: 40
                      +1
                      "Beat off", salt caviar, Grandfather taught.
                      I know how to, and caviar \ raw is now dumb ......
                      1. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 30 August 2019 10: 44
                        +1
                        But I remembered about another caviar ---- herring, ragweed !!!!! And the capelin came too, came close to the shore and jumped up out of the water! Netting, buckets, who, what was.
      2. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 29 August 2019 22: 56
        0
        Quote: tihonmarine
        ...... I really don’t understand, but what kind of games did the United States children and the children of these liberals play and are playing?
        maybe shtatovye in the wild west? And so, probably more on the computer?
  4. exo
    exo 29 August 2019 11: 15
    +5
    All childhood passed in the garrison. He grew up among sailors and on the decks of ships. The happiest childhood!
    Even now I remember with warmth.
    1. Honest Citizen
      Honest Citizen 29 August 2019 12: 47
      +8
      All childhood passed in the garrison. He grew up among sailors and on the decks of ships. The happiest childhood!

      And I ran almost all my childhood at an industrial enterprise - I always had two types of screwdrivers (flat and a cross) with me, and pliers - I also recall childhood with warmth.
      In my childhood, boys looked at a tree - and immediately understood from which branch to make a bow, arrows, from which slingshot. In my childhood there was no concept of "buying a slingshot" (not so long ago in the children's world I saw a slingshot on sale), "buying a bow", "buying a sword" - we did everything ourselves. Knives, broken files - they knew how to use everything.
      We, children, sometimes in pharmacies did not even sell a tourniquet :)
      And in 1980, when the film "D'Artagnan and the Three Musketeers" was released, we all went as one and enrolled in the fencing section. And how much we "fenced" with sticks on the street - and not to retell at all.
      And they went fishing - almost all the fishing rods and spinning rods were altered with their own hands - starting from the rings and ending with "feeds" ...
      Now any liberal will say - they say all this is not from a good life. So easy to send it then to a known address. When you do everything yourself, with your own hands, and even a school with its labor lessons, people who are fit for work, not drones, have grown up.
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 29 August 2019 13: 08
        +3
        And my childhood ---- in exploration, in the Far East, on the site ---- in the beam, in the party, in the village --- already in a wooden house .... And it was real communism.
        And now there is a devastation, a shortage of everything and residents in the village near 2000, along with those in the taiga. Instead of 20000 as before. And no exploration anymore.
        But it was explored for 50 years in advance ... who will get it?
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 29 August 2019 14: 37
          +1
          Quote: Reptiloid
          And now there is a devastation, a shortage of everything and residents in the village near 2000, along with those in the taiga. Instead of 20000 as before. And no exploration anymore.

          We have the same thing for a long time. Mines, logging enterprises barely breathe. The people are old people. The last time was 11 years ago.
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 29 August 2019 22: 28
            +1
            Quote: tihonmarine
            .... We have the same thing for a long time. Mines, logging enterprises barely breathe. The people are old people. The last time was 11 years ago.
            I was not and I will not. Left, I was 6 years old. I was born in Leningrad, there is a grandmother, housing. Interestingly, a large space, trolleybuses, metro ... I didn’t think for a long time, and then I began to remember, watch online, something scraped in my heart. When I’ll guess everything, nothing, if I write to you in PM?
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 30 August 2019 05: 19
              +1
              Quote: Reptiloid
              I was born in Leningrad, there is a grandmother, housing.

              I also left there at the age of 17 to study in St. Petersburg, my maternal grandmother also lived on Vyborg Prospekt, where the Vyborg department store, the Stalin building with communal apartments, a huge square of more than 500 apartments. Imagine seeing this for a "Guran" kid, and saleswomen in stores cut sausage into thin slices. Nostalgia!
              1. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 30 August 2019 10: 35
                0
                [quote = tihonmarine] and in stores, saleswomen cut sausage into thin slices. Nostalgia! [/ Quot]
                Well, when I arrived in Leningrad FOR ALL, there were already coupons, queues for groceries, and getting food "" by acquaintance "". It didn't concern me much then. True, they took with them in line. So on the Far East there have always been queues for the opening of navigation. wink
                Now sausage and cheese can also be cut, but ----- not laughing in all stores. There are sellers and cutting machines
                Vyborg department store still exists, but with the name of the avenue is a bit wrong. Here, after all, the whole side is --- Vyborg, Vyborg district, and the avenue is called --- Forest. From the name Forest plot, around the Forest Institute --- now the Forestry Academy. Along this Avenue, after the Finland Station, Ploshchad Lenina, there are 2 stations close to Lesnoy Avenue: Vyborgskaya and Lesnaya.
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 30 August 2019 12: 31
                  +1
                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  the avenue is called --- Forest.

                  Precisely Lesnoy, he wrote it automatically. Lesnoy prospect, house 37 and the Vyborg department store in it. There was no "meter" then, but buses 12 and 262, tram 9 ran to Finland Station. I remember this (and a barrel of beer on the left side). After all, I was not there for 26 years after the death of my grandmother.
                  1. Reptiloid
                    Reptiloid 30 August 2019 13: 06
                    0
                    Quote: tihonmarine
                    Precisely Lesnoy, he wrote it automatically. Lesnoy prospect, house 37 and the Vyborg department store in it. There was no "meter" then, but buses 12 and 262, tram 9 ran to Finland Station. I remember this (and a barrel of beer on the left side). After all, I was not there for 26 years after the death of my grandmother.
                    There are no barrels of beer for a long time. 12 I don’t know the bus, but it still runs 262, only in the form of a minibus from Finlandsky to the metro station Prosveshcheniya (railway Shuvalovo). Such a long route, tram 9 changed the route
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 29 August 2019 14: 07
        +1
        Quote: Honest Citizen
        When you do everything yourself, with your own hands, and even a school with its labor lessons, people who are fit for work and not drones have grown up.

        This is how the men were brought up. Games that we had "adults, not for children with purchased cars and an electric railway.
      3. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 30 August 2019 10: 08
        0
        Quote: Honest Citizen
        people fit for work, not drones.

        They grow drones
        Work is not for them,
        But their difficulties
        Will be at the drones ...
        Cartoon about a bee.
  5. Thrifty
    Thrifty 29 August 2019 11: 17
    +4
    Something needs to be done with liberalism within the country! This is the layer of rot that Russia has already dragged into the swamp of an economic crisis, and a political corkscrew! It is necessary to change sharply, by 180 degrees, the attitude to this concept, it is necessary to eradicate it, to rebuild the consciousness of people so that they can understand, the game with the West in liberal Russia is only harmful to the country!
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 29 August 2019 11: 57
      +3
      Quote: Thrifty
      Something needs to be done with liberalism within the country! This is the layer of rot that Russia has already dragged into the swamp of an economic crisis, and a political corkscrew! It is necessary to change sharply, by 180 degrees, the attitude to this concept, it is necessary to eradicate it

      Absolutely agree

    2. Doctorleg
      Doctorleg 29 August 2019 13: 17
      -4
      Following your paradigm, you need to be driven into mozhaia, for example, in Turukhansk Territory. There is nothing to liberalize with you, otherwise you speak, you see, against the policies of the party and the government. When someone advocates that his opponent should be twisted into a ram’s horn, he does not think that he can be the next.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 29 August 2019 14: 15
        +2
        Quote: DoctorOleg
        Following your paradigm, you need to be driven into mozhaia, for example, in Turukhansk Territory.

        For such a statement in my time, you and all the liberals in addition would have been sent not to the fertile Turukhansk region, but to the construction of a railway "project 501 or 503".
  6. Zeev Zeev
    Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 11: 17
    -14
    In the United States (as in other countries) this is a purely voluntary affair, and not a lesson in a school with a commitment. As well as participation in scout organizations. And all this without the slightest pressure from the education system or peers.
    1. Santyrro
      Santyrro 29 August 2019 11: 31
      +3
      But in Russia, is there pressure from the education system? Where is it interesting? And what is this strange pressure from peers and how do you know that they don’t have it, but do we have ?? Our participation in military-patriotic organizations and festivals is also purely voluntary, and the propaganda of the armed forces in schools is even stronger than ours.
      1. Zeev Zeev
        Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 11: 43
        -7
        I was a pioneer. I know how they were "voluntarily" accepted there.
        1. Andrey Chistyakov
          Andrey Chistyakov 29 August 2019 11: 46
          +6
          Quote: Zeev Zeev
          I was a pioneer. I know how they were "voluntarily" accepted there.

          Wow. But I was not accepted the first time.
          1. Zeev Zeev
            Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 11: 50
            -4
            I was also not accepted the first time. But the brainwashed about "how it is necessary to be a pioneer" specifically.
            1. neri73-r
              neri73-r 29 August 2019 12: 56
              +2
              And what’s bad is being a pioneer, I’ve also been a Komsomol member, I’m not jelling! Account card, ticket, badge, keep everything, maybe ours will return! soldier laughing
    2. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 29 August 2019 11: 32
      +3
      we have the same thing) NVP has long since disappeared from school. although in vain as for me.
    3. neri73-r
      neri73-r 29 August 2019 11: 35
      +7
      Quote: Zeev Zeev
      In the United States (as in other countries) this is a purely voluntary affair, and not a lesson in a school with a commitment. As well as participation in scout organizations. And all this without the slightest pressure from the education system or peers.

      Due to development, a child cannot correctly choose what he will need in the future, in adulthood, for this he has parents and a state who will help with the choice and ensure the learning process.
      1. Zeev Zeev
        Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 11: 45
        -8
        A child is a person. And he has the right to choose what he likes.
        1. neri73-r
          neri73-r 29 August 2019 12: 59
          +2
          Quote: Zeev Zeev
          A child is a person. And he has the right to choose what he likes.

          Give a one-year-old child the right to choose? Do not carry nonsense, children are children, they do not understand much after adulthood, they lack knowledge and experience.
          1. Zeev Zeev
            Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 15: 10
            -1
            No need to engage in demagogy. A one-year-old child has his own choice, a three-year-old has another, and the further, the more of them.
            1. neri73-r
              neri73-r 29 August 2019 16: 51
              0
              To choose something, you need to know the true properties, parameters, characteristics, etc. of those objects from which you choose phenomena! What does the child know? He has neither experience nor knowledge. And if he wants a woman in eight years, also provide? This is not demagogy, this truth of life, liberals have heard enough, but what this means is not a boom boom.
              1. Zeev Zeev
                Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 17: 58
                0
                I have two children, a wife, a teacher and a huge experience working with children. Talk about education?
                1. neri73-r
                  neri73-r 29 August 2019 19: 59
                  +1
                  Quote: Zeev Zeev
                  I have two children, a wife, a teacher and a huge experience working with children. Talk about education?

                  Well, if you decide to measure it, then I have three children, my wife has a first education teacher-psychologist.
                  What you offer -
                  A child is a person. And he has the right to choose what he likes.
                  , in Russian it is called ALL-PERMITTANCE, which children grow up with such an upbringing, you know. Mara Baghdasaryan to you as an example, as well as other majors. Well, I think you know all this and are just doing liberal Western propaganda, with the goal of convincing our society not to engage in raising our children, such as so correctly and in a civilized manner. I did not write about education, but about the physiological, psychological and psychological development of a child, a normal child who is born helpless and receives experience and education in the development process, the key role in this belongs to parents and the state (society). The state, in particular, does this through patriotic organizations. The goal is for the child to grow up as a citizen, OUR citizen, and not a citizen of the world, whose Homeland is where the pope is warm! A child, like a vessel that you pour into it, it will be, maybe lemonade, or maybe urine! You can offer both in the West and choose your gender, but you can give Kalashnikov in our hands, so that when you need to be able to stand up for yourself and for the country. hi
                  1. Zeev Zeev
                    Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 20: 33
                    0
                    It is strange, but in our Middle East guys (and girls) take M4 or Tavor without military-patriotic education and defend their homeland.
                    1. neri73-r
                      neri73-r 29 August 2019 20: 36
                      0
                      Quote: Zeev Zeev
                      It is strange, but in our Middle East guys (and girls) take M4 or Tavor without military-patriotic education and defend their homeland.

                      You are cunning, and apparently consciously, especially when you write -
                      without military patriotic education
                      !
    4. Thrifty
      Thrifty 29 August 2019 11: 38
      +2
      Zeyevzeev, then we have a higher sense of patriotism, and, stronger love for our country! !!
      1. Zeev Zeev
        Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 11: 47
        -4
        My child does not participate in any military-patriotic organization, but loves his country.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 29 August 2019 12: 31
          +2
          well and in vain. purely in terms of development. the kid must comprehend the basics of the military. girl learn to understand this and something to be able to. it’s not about patriotism. just the ability to not be a vegetable at a difficult moment.
          1. Zeev Zeev
            Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 12: 38
            -3
            The basics of what? Do not put your fingers in the trigger and do not point weapons at people unnecessarily? For this dad is. Know the history of the country? For this there is a dad with mom and a school. What else? Assembling and disassembling weapons? The army can explain when it goes there. What else? What are the basics?
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 29 August 2019 12: 55
              +3
              Do you think it all comes down to the ability to shoot?))) how mundane) the ability to navigate the terrain and the basics of survival. initial medical training. and even a lot of things that will help in life in a difficult situation. military training is not only war. 95 percent are survival skills.
              1. Vadim02rus
                Vadim02rus 29 August 2019 14: 05
                +1
                Do you think it all comes down to the ability to shoot?))) how mundane) the ability to navigate the terrain and the basics of survival. initial medical training. and even a lot of things that will help in life in a difficult situation. military training is not only war. 95 percent are survival skills.

                "Zarnitsa" good
              2. Zeev Zeev
                Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 14: 34
                +1
                In fact, adults are for this purpose, so that the children LIVE, not SURVIVE.
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    6. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 29 August 2019 12: 02
      0
      Quote: Zeev Zeev
      And all this without the slightest pressure from the education system or peers

      Have you heard about this? Are they forcibly dragged there?
      Yunarmia is an All-Russian military-patriotic social movement for children and youth, created in January and registered on July 29, 2016. The co-founders of the movement are: DOSAAF of Russia, Veteran Public Organization of the Armed Forces of Russia,

      We are firmly convinced that the future of our country depends on children, therefore, within the framework of our movement, we pay attention to the comprehensive development of the personality of a young patriot.
    7. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 29 August 2019 14: 16
      0
      Quote: Zeev Zeev
      In the USA (as in other countries), this is a purely voluntary matter.

      So what's the matter with "suitcase, ticket, America".
  7. Skay
    Skay 29 August 2019 11: 18
    +4
    Interestingly, what will the liberda say about this:
    1. taiga2018
      taiga2018 29 August 2019 11: 34
      +3
      Quote: Skay
      and what will the liberde say about it:

      Mr. Gozman replies: "This is not my country, what happens there does not bother me, I care about the situation in Russia ..."
      1. Andrey Chistyakov
        Andrey Chistyakov 29 August 2019 11: 40
        +5
        Quote: taiga2018
        Quote: Skay
        and what will the liberde say about it:

        Mr. Gozman replies: "This is not my country, what happens there does not bother me, I care about the situation in Russia ..."

        On the subject of Gozman ... The other day he again “distinguished himself.” “I say on the federal channel I scold the authorities.
        And they don't even beat me on the street for that. Means, nobody protects this power. "
        "Shefederal". Either he begs for money for the beatings, he asks.
        1. taiga2018
          taiga2018 29 August 2019 11: 55
          +2
          Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
          Whether he begs for money, he asks for money for beating.

          another conclusion suggests itself-if they are in power (God forbid us and riot police), everyone who will criticize them will be beaten ...
          1. Andrey Chistyakov
            Andrey Chistyakov 29 August 2019 11: 59
            0
            Quote: taiga2018
            Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
            Whether he begs for money, he asks for money for beating.

            another conclusion suggests itself-if they are in power (God forbid us and riot police), everyone who will criticize them will be beaten ...

            Who would doubt it. But they will not be in power.
            1. taiga2018
              taiga2018 29 August 2019 12: 06
              +3
              Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
              But they will not be in power.

              Your words to God’s ears ... but if someone told me that year in 2010 that there would be nationalists in power in Ukraine, Bandera would be recognized as a national hero at the state level, and the Russians and Russian-speakers would be happy to support all this , I would just call this person not very smart ...
              1. Andrey Chistyakov
                Andrey Chistyakov 29 August 2019 12: 14
                +1
                Quote: taiga2018
                Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
                But they will not be in power.

                Your words to God’s ears ... but if someone told me that year in 2010 that there would be nationalists in power in Ukraine, Bandera would be recognized as a national hero at the state level, and the Russians and Russian-speakers would be happy to support all this , I would just call this person not very smart ...

                On the contrary, I knew this. In 1991, they drove home with a friend from Moscow after football.
                We boarded the fast Moscow-Kharkov. Such a conductor was. With eyes full of hatred for us.
                This all went. It began with conversations that all republics feed Russia.
                We’ll separate and live. Separated, but didn’t heal. Yes, and with a president like EBN ...
                What could be expected? About the Nazis in Ukraine ... But Donbass rebelled !!!
                And Crimeans too.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 29 August 2019 14: 19
          0
          Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
          he asks for whether or not he will ask for money for beating.

          Badly asked, Well asked, received with full and for everything.
    2. Aleksandre
      Aleksandre 29 August 2019 11: 35
      +4
      Well, what's that ... "Democratic" entertainment center for children is good, but Putin's totalitarian children's concentration camp is bad. You need to think for yourself wassat
    3. monah
      monah 29 August 2019 11: 53
      0
      I do not belong to a group with an abusive name, for me, therefore, I will say this, this is an occupation of a club of interests. Someone likes "Pokemon", and someone from "cyborgs" is crazy - everyone has their own way!
    4. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 29 August 2019 12: 04
      -1
      Quote: Skay
      Interestingly, what will the liberda say about this:

      Won't even see
      And if they see they say that fake
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      1. taiga2018
        taiga2018 29 August 2019 14: 11
        +2
        Quote: DoctorOleg
        When a piece was chopped off from the country,

        The United States, as you put it, chopped off not just a piece, but literally the heart of Serbia and the Serbs-Kosovo, and nothing, the relations between Serbia and the USA are quite normal ... yes, the USA and its allies also bombed Serbia and nothing, all the Serbs have normal relations Moreover, in this Balkan country there are influential political forces that are not against their country's joining NATO ...
        Quote: DoctorOleg
        I would look at Russia if in the 90s any troops were sent to Chechnya to ensure expression of will.

        because as they like to say in today's Ukraine, they say Ukraine is not Russia, so I’ll tell you that Russia is not Ukraine, and even in that state, and in the state of the army, I could adequately respond to anyone who tried to bring in some kind of troops for anything ... it’s not Russia who is to blame for the fact that Ukraine is mostly inhabited by a cowardly and mean-spirited population, which can only mock at the weak, and at the very least just shit the strong ...
      2. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 29 August 2019 14: 11
        +1
        Quote: DoctorOleg
        When a piece was chopped off from the country,

        Not tired?
        By force
        Was there a lot of victims?
        Where were your APUs if they were "chopping off"?
        and one more is about to be chopped off,

        You this mantra about the participation of Russia in your Civil War already fifth year doldonite.
        But not ONE evidence did not lead
        Or you consider the covers from passports to be "proof"
        I will reveal a terrible secret. In Russia, the military has NO passports. Military tickets only.
        Or "proof" a piece of iron as he shook from the podium?
        And nothing else. Solid BLABBLA.

    6. Doctorleg
      Doctorleg 29 August 2019 13: 28
      -4
      Why is it that in our country we consider patriotism, in relation to others, we call nationalism?
      1. taiga2018
        taiga2018 29 August 2019 14: 13
        +2
        Quote: DoctorOleg
        Why is it that in our country we consider patriotism, in relation to others, we call nationalism?

        it so happens that we, under the guise of patriotism, are heroizing all sorts of fascist henchmen ...
      2. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 29 August 2019 14: 15
        -1
        Quote: DoctorOleg
        in relation to others we call nationalism?

        "Moskolyak on Gilyak", is it patriotism?
        "who does not jump the Moskal" too?
        About the innumerable prohibitions of everything that concerns Russian, I am already silent
    7. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 29 August 2019 14: 21
      0
      Quote: Skay
      Interestingly, what will the liberda say about this:

      They will say "Again the intrigues of the Kremlin." They are children.
  8. AU Ivanov.
    AU Ivanov. 29 August 2019 11: 19
    +4
    For 12 years, my uncle made an invaluable gift. I took with me to the training ground. I was then shot in full, to the tinnitus and bruise on my right shoulder: AK, PKM, SVD. Cars and other toys have long been forgotten, and I still remember this gift. And in the courtyard we did not play mother-daughter but war game.
  9. Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 29 August 2019 11: 19
    0
    In the USA, a dad with money can put a whole arsenal on the dining table in front of his child, I'm not talking about the "lucky man" whose dad is a "collector"!
    1. Ka-52
      Ka-52 29 August 2019 11: 45
      +3
      In the USA, a dad with money can put a whole arsenal on the dining table in front of his child, I'm not talking about the "lucky man" whose dad is a "collector"!

      and this child then with this arsenal goes to school and arranges funeral services for several dozens of his classmates.
  10. Skay
    Skay 29 August 2019 11: 42
    +3
    About the American military-patriotic camps through the eyes of an American photographer: https://birdinflight.com/en/vdohnovenie/20180516-268729-patriotic-camps.html

    Quote from there:
    In general, it turned out that in the States there are more patriotic camps and clubs than in Russia. But they know less about them. To get access to these camps in the USA turned out to be much more difficult than in Russia.
  11. monah
    monah 29 August 2019 11: 45
    +1
    Quote: Zeev Zeev
    In the United States (as in other countries) this is a purely voluntary affair, and not a lesson in a school with a commitment. As well as participation in scout organizations. And all this without the slightest pressure from the education system or peers.

    You got to the wrong site Dear!
    1. Zeev Zeev
      Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 11: 53
      0
      Is it forbidden to express your opinion here?
  12. monah
    monah 29 August 2019 12: 00
    +3
    Quote: Zeev Zeev
    Is it forbidden to express your opinion here?

    It's not your opinion, most of the people here are "servicemen" and know what for what. We know how the Motherland is defended by liberoid-patsephists!
    1. Doctorleg
      Doctorleg 29 August 2019 13: 26
      -4
      Well tell me. Military service is not a guarantee of intelligence and quick wits.
  13. Normal ok
    Normal ok 29 August 2019 12: 01
    +1
    I remember the good old NVP. Because I entered a military school, military instructor was my best friend. Shooting from the TOZ - as much as you want. In addition, in 1996. I took the 1-th place in the Odessa region for disassembling / assembling AKM for speed.
    1. Normal ok
      Normal ok 29 August 2019 12: 26
      0
      Quote: Normal ok
      I remember the good old NVP. Because I entered a military school, military instructor was my best friend. Shooting from the TOZ - as much as you want. In addition, in 1996. I took the 1-th place in the Odessa region for disassembling / assembling AKM for speed.

      Sorry, in 1986. Sorry, a little one.
  14. g1washntwn
    g1washntwn 29 August 2019 12: 11
    +5
    Since ancient times, they learned to swing a sword and tried on chain mail, so so be it. A man is a protector, which means "behind the shield", that is, a warrior. And to educate in a different way, something will grow up petticoat and baked.
  15. ZVS
    ZVS 29 August 2019 12: 14
    +1
    I did not read from the author a story about organizations in the West that are similar to Molodogvardeyskaya. And themed days with the demonstration of army equipment and familiarizing young people with the attributes of army life are the norm, both for the West and for Russia. But the fact that the militarization of patriotic education in Russia is the basis of this education itself is not worth denying. There is nothing more to build a patriotic upbringing on - there are no Dneproges, no Magnitogorsk, no BAM, no Baikonurov, no AvtoVAZ, etc. So they exploit militarism in patriotic education. This is flawed, but there is no other, and will not, apparently.
    1. Doctorleg
      Doctorleg 29 August 2019 13: 28
      -3
      I agree. Why patriotism = military service. And doctors or teachers can not be patriots ?. Their work is no less important, but paid, by the way worse.
  16. Karabas
    Karabas 29 August 2019 13: 41
    +1
    The “terrible” reports of Western journalists tell us that in Russian military-patriotic camps and in life-saving lessons in schools, children are taught how to disassemble and assemble Kalashnikov assault rifles for a while, try on military uniforms, military uniforms and other military attributes.

    Yes, if only from Western zhurnalyug there were these horror stories about the analysis of the machine ... I remember studying at school, and it was still Soviet times, so literally everyone was afraid about the assembly and disassembly of Kalash. It was presented as something worse than there is little. But we guys could not understand this, what is the horror of this action? It was wildly interesting what kind of machine it was, how to disassemble and assemble it, and why to disassemble and assemble it. Even the legend went that Kalash always took out a bunch of spare parts from the factory, then each of this heap collects its own machine, that not all its parts are the same as lucky, so you need to quickly run to the heap in order to choose the best ones. In general, we did not see Kalash, said nefig, these are not toys for you! request
    1. ZVS
      ZVS 29 August 2019 20: 20
      0
      Isn't he who is able to solve examples with at least two unknowns not able to remember the procedure for parsing and collecting AKM? This is the same hollow absurdity.
  17. viktor.
    viktor. 29 August 2019 15: 28
    0
    Let them write how Amerekos killed childhood in the children of Yugoslavia, Vietnam, Syria, etc.
  18. Andrey Andrey
    Andrey Andrey 29 August 2019 21: 22
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    People in Russia have nothing to lose. Never lived sweet, nothing to start. We’ll all go to paradise and women will give birth. May repeat the war.
    A set of thoughts 86% of Russians.
  19. Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 30 August 2019 08: 47
    +1
    The difference is in mentality. Americans, they are always familiar with the "you", from childhood.
    They have a very popular 22-gauge bolt - My First Rifle, or - "My first rifle". Kids from 5 years old go with a bang! Price -125 bucks.

    But the kids are using not only such a rifle, but in general a huge arsenal. Only the Abrams tank does not sell ...

    And what about us?

    And then, probably, permission will be needed for such a soon.