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Why didn’t nuclear weapons appear in Nazi Germany?

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On the day of the 70 anniversary of the test in the Soviet Union of the first atomic bomb RIA News publishes an interview with the adviser to the head of the Research Center "Kurchatov Institute" Andrei Gagarinsky. One of the topics covered in the interview was about what prevented Nazi Germany from creating a nuclear bomb before it was launched in the United States.


Why didn’t nuclear weapons appear in Nazi Germany?


According to Andrei Gagarinsky, in Nazi Germany, nuclear weapon did not appear for the simple reason that Hitler did not define such a task as a priority.

The scientist, a historian of the atomic project, notes that the work was carried out "within a limited framework."

Moreover, according to Andrei Gagarinsky, whose words he cites RIA News, then the German leadership and German scientists, in the end, there was simply no time left.

The Germans attempted to launch a nuclear reactor in the spring of 1945. Moreover, the attempt at that time was unsuccessful. Then Werner Heisenberg directed this work, who, as he himself stated, did not dare to ask the country's leadership for the enormous sums necessary for the implementation of the atomic project.

Recall that the first country to receive and only use the atomic bomb was the United States of America. In the Soviet Union, which began its nuclear project in the midst of World War II (in 1942), nuclear weapons appeared in the 1949 year.

It’s really scary to imagine what move would take историяif nuclear weapons appeared in Nazi Germany.
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  1. Nelepost
    Nelepost 29 August 2019 06: 34
    -1
    What history would be if not for the Second World War, America would swell astronomical money for the creation of nuclear weapons, and what would the world be like now if it was not developed, would there be nuclear power plants in the world, or now they were fighting with even greater fierceness oil....
    1. venik
      venik 29 August 2019 07: 26
      +5
      Quote: Nelepost
      What story would be if not for the Second World War, America would swell astronomical money to create nuclear weapons

      ======
      History, alas, does not know the subjunctive mood .... But atomic weapons would have appeared anyway, only much later. The idea was "in the air" - physicists from many countries were getting closer and closer to the atomic nucleus and were already able to assess the colossal energy potential of the nuclear fission chain reaction ...
      Well, the Nazis didn’t receive the bomb for two reasons: the first one is indicated in the article, and the second is that Heisenberg (by the way, a blasted Nazi, though a great physicist) made a very serious mistake: he immediately tried to realize the idea of ​​thermonuclear fusion i.e. create hydrogen bomb (bypassing the atomic stage).
      1. Alexzn
        Alexzn 29 August 2019 08: 31
        0
        I do not think that Heisenberg was an inveterate Nazi doing "Jewish physics" (quantum mechanics and the theory of relativity) and having a large number of Jews as friends and students.
        1. Blacksmith 55
          Blacksmith 55 29 August 2019 10: 03
          +5
          The article was reprinted from RIA Novosti, but .... there is an offer which is not in VO.
          I write from memory: the Nazis did not have time, in the 45th year French tanks were already rumbling. !!! French?
          I would like to repeat one well-known phrase. "And they defeated us too."
          1. Blackmokona
            Blackmokona 29 August 2019 19: 16
            +3
            In World War II, there were not such interesting episodes. For example, 1944, France. Phalese operation
            Having taken Shampo in the morning of August 19, Polish battle groups, as well as some parts of the 4th Canadian Division, came together in Shamboa; by evening, the Poles entrenched in the city and contacted the 90th American and 2nd French Panzer divisions
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    1. Pedrodepackes
      Pedrodepackes 29 August 2019 06: 51
      +8
      Quote: Observer2014
      You can guess why.

      Maybe he would have gotten, if it weren’t for the cannibalistic policy of purity of race, the Jews worked on the process, but everyone in the USA fled. And here is the result.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 29 August 2019 09: 59
        +1
        I agree with you. The outflow of brains, limited resources (can not be compared with developments in the United States) prevented the Nazis. And thank God, and of course our Army.
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 29 August 2019 06: 53
      +1
      Quote: Observer2014
      It seems that even watered processes on our planet as a single organism work

      No wonder there is a proverb:
      The god of horns does not give a vigorous cow
      An interesting point is that for four years, being the only nuclear state in the world, the United States did not dare to attack the USSR, although Churchill and some American functionaries incited and incited the US leadership.
      What do I want to say (repeat)? The United States will never dare attack Russia itself if it does not survive out of its mind. And the saying:
      To whom is war, and to whom is mother dear.
      in relation to the Americans does not lose relevance to this day.
      It is simply amazing what this nation has a craving for parasitism. Or maybe parasitism is a disease? And parasites must be treated in clinics: uranium mines, gold mines, lumbering and clearing, road construction to the same standards? belay They don’t even have any desire to compensate countries for damage caused by aggression.
      1. Karabas
        Karabas 29 August 2019 07: 21
        +11
        An interesting point is that for four years, being the only nuclear state in the world, the United States did not dare to attack the USSR, although Churchill and some American functionaries incited and incited the US leadership.

        So they didn’t have bombs, only show-offs. At first, everything that was spent on the Japs was then feverishly calculated and it always turned out that several hundred pieces were needed, because from 2x-3x, even if they reach, the effect would be zero, except how much to anger the USSR.
        1. Alexzn
          Alexzn 29 August 2019 08: 54
          -10
          Elementary arithmetic.
          If the states set themselves the goal of nuclear bombing of the USSR in the late 40s - early 50s, then technically they would have no obstacles. There were carriers not accessible by air defense, there were charges, there were airfields around the perimeter. Until the 51st year, states could bomb the USSR with virtually no fear of a nuclear response. The use of 30-50 bombs would allow the USSR to turn into a country engaged in physical survival, Leningrad, Moscow, Kiev would lose a third of the population, the industry of the Urals would be destroyed. It remained only in a hurry to finish what was left.
          In 1960, the United States had over 30 (!!!) nuclear warheads versus 000 for the USSR, provided that it was not possible to attack state territory.
          The reason that the states did not start the bombing of the USSR is not at all technical, they are deeper and more complex and are civilizational in nature.
          1. lucul
            lucul 29 August 2019 09: 12
            +9
            Until the 51st year, states could bomb the USSR with virtually no fear of a nuclear response.

            Over and over again I hear this liberal nonsense.
            What bomb? What bombers and why were they inaccessible to the USSR air defense?
            1. Alexzn
              Alexzn 29 August 2019 09: 32
              -8
              About liberal bullshit ...
              I don’t quite understand how the FACTORY is related to liberalism, but ...
              At that time, the states had three strategists capable of delivering nuclear charges beyond the Urals - B-29, B-50 and jet B-47 with a practical ceiling of 12-13 meters. The USSR adopted the MiG-000 at 15m with a similar ceiling, but their number was clearly not enough to cover strategic facilities.
              1. lucul
                lucul 29 August 2019 09: 56
                +5
                About liberal bullshit ...

                Read about the YAK-9 PD, with the M-106 PV motor. He took a height of 13m.
                1. Alexzn
                  Alexzn 29 August 2019 10: 40
                  -4
                  Well? What could he do with the B-47? Which not only could rise by 13000, it just flew above 10 000, also with a speed above 900 km \ hour ..
                  1. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 29 August 2019 20: 24
                    0
                    Quote: AlexZN
                    Which couldn’t just climb 13000

                    Will the source be?
          2. Vol4ara
            Vol4ara 29 August 2019 09: 18
            +4
            Quote: AlexZN
            Elementary arithmetic.
            If the states set themselves the goal of nuclear bombing of the USSR in the late 40s - early 50s, then technically they would have no obstacles. There were carriers not accessible by air defense, there were charges, there were airfields around the perimeter. Until the 51st year, states could bomb the USSR with virtually no fear of a nuclear response. The use of 30-50 bombs would allow the USSR to turn into a country engaged in physical survival, Leningrad, Moscow, Kiev would lose a third of the population, the industry of the Urals would be destroyed. It remained only in a hurry to finish what was left.
            In 1960, the United States had over 30 (!!!) nuclear warheads versus 000 for the USSR, provided that it was not possible to attack state territory.
            The reason that the states did not start the bombing of the USSR is not at all technical, they are deeper and more complex and are civilizational in nature.

            On the lamb would have been less than a week later, had they started a war. There were no satellites, the positions of classified industries and cities were not known, there was confidence that the USSR would not soon create an atomic bomb and there was still time to build up warheads, there were bombers who needed a base airfield and which could be shot down
            1. Alexzn
              Alexzn 29 August 2019 09: 48
              -9
              At the Lamansh ... I wonder with what resources? Strange, but millions of military personnel must have something, we need locomotives, cars ... we need a rear, (which is destroyed) ... Fight with the scumbags? Well, do not forget - Lamansh, this is not the strait between France and the United States ...
              We are considering a TECHNICAL model (inherently absurd, but VO likes reasoning at this level)
              1. anykin
                anykin 29 August 2019 10: 31
                +2
                Quote: AlexZN
                At the Lamansh ... I wonder with what resources?

                Everything for the front, everything for the victory.
                Quote: AlexZN
                Lamanche, this is not a strait between France and the USA

                American troops in Europe are the troops of the state that declared war. An eye for an eye.
              2. Vol4ara
                Vol4ara 29 August 2019 13: 54
                +2
                Quote: AlexZN
                At the Lamansh ... I wonder with what resources? Strange, but millions of military personnel must have something, we need locomotives, cars ... we need a rear, (which is destroyed) ... Fight with the scumbags? Well, do not forget - Lamansh, this is not the strait between France and the United States ...
                We are considering a TECHNICAL model (inherently absurd, but VO likes reasoning at this level)

                Suddenly, those who were at the time of the Second World War, and they would have been enough to move Europe a couple of times back and forth.
          3. anykin
            anykin 29 August 2019 10: 26
            +3
            Quote: AlexZN
            The reason that the states did not start the bombing of the USSR is not at all technical

            Apparently too little time has passed since 1945. American citizens were not prepared for such a turn.
            1. Alexzn
              Alexzn 29 August 2019 10: 45
              -6
              But this is an argument. Do not forget HOW the union received nuclear weapons! Part of the scientific American (world) elite considered the world right in which the American nuclear weapons would have a counterweight. States, this is New Rome and its behavior is not at all straightforward and uniform. There are a lot of vectors and far from all (not even the majority) were sharpened for the destruction of the USSR, which, technically, was certainly possible.
          4. Karabas
            Karabas 29 August 2019 11: 00
            0
            In 1960, the United States had over 30 (!!!) nuclear warheads versus 000 for the USSR, provided that it was not possible to attack state territory.
            The reason that the states did not start the bombing of the USSR is not at all technical, they are deeper and more complex and are civilizational in nature.

            And in the 60s, Einstein constantly arranged for them. His phrase is about stones and sticks of those years. They could not listen to him, all the more there was a strong authority of the USSR and ordinary citizens would not go to war.
          5. Alex Justice
            Alex Justice 29 August 2019 11: 33
            +7
            The reason that the states did not start the bombing of the USSR is not at all technical, they are deeper and more complex and are civilizational in nature.
            :) laughing laughing laughing
            You tell this to the Japanese.
        2. Zeev Zeev
          Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 09: 01
          -11
          And how could the USSR attack the USA? There is practically no fleet, there is practically no long-range aviation, tank armada with allied air dominance in the air are ineffective, and they will not cross the sea, the logistics of the Red Army are much inferior to the American ... Another question is that the Americans were not going to fight the USSR at all.
          1. Alf
            Alf 29 August 2019 14: 41
            +1
            Quote: Zeev Zeev
            Another question is that the Americans were not going to fight the USSR at all.

            Apparently, plans for the Dropshot type were developed by the committee of chiefs of staff from nothing to do.
          2. Dart2027
            Dart2027 29 August 2019 20: 28
            +1
            Quote: Zeev Zeev
            there are practically no long-range aviation

            Who told you such nonsense?
            http://militera.lib.ru/memo/russian/golovanov_ae/pre.html
      2. jonht
        jonht 29 August 2019 07: 28
        +10
        the Americans did not attack the USSR, not because they didn’t want others, but because there were few nuclear bombs, over 4 years according to various sources, no more than 10-25 charges were collected. And to inflict critical damage to the USSR according to their estimates, it was necessary to lose at least 200 ... And taking into account the power of the Soviet army, they did not dare to fight with us without destroying the rear.
        1. Zeev Zeev
          Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 09: 07
          -3
          And why should the US attack the USSR?
          1. Vol4ara
            Vol4ara 29 August 2019 09: 21
            +4
            Quote: Zeev Zeev
            And why should the US attack the USSR?

            2nd grade high school question
            1. Zeev Zeev
              Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 09: 23
              -4
              There must be a reason for attacking a country. What reason did the US have to attack the USSR?
              1. Vol4ara
                Vol4ara 29 August 2019 09: 30
                +1
                Quote: Zeev Zeev
                There must be a reason for attacking a country. What reason did the US have to attack the USSR?

                Try to google it, this is an elementary question, but I'm not on a paycheck to read lectures
                1. Zeev Zeev
                  Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 10: 03
                  -5
                  Why lectures? Can you name one reason for the attack on the USSR?
                  1. Vol4ara
                    Vol4ara 29 August 2019 13: 59
                    +3
                    Quote: Zeev Zeev
                    Why lectures? Can you name one reason for the attack on the USSR?

                    Eliminating the threat of the spread of communist ideology. Resources. Eliminate the geopolitical adversary. Ensuring, in case of victory, dominance over the entire globe.
                    1. Zeev Zeev
                      Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 15: 19
                      -2
                      And why does the United States dominate the globe? And what resources could be taken in the USSR, which are not in the USA? Or in other countries? Uchkuduk uranium mines? It’s easier to capture Congo. Oil? And collapse the US oil market? Especially since then they did not even discover a tenth of modern Russian deposits, and oil in the USSR produced half a dozen places. What resources of the USSR could interest the USA? And the spread of communism was not overcome by a bomb, but by an increase in the standard of living. This is the ideology of the poor, not people who have a dream to build a cozy house and have two cars.
                      1. Vol4ara
                        Vol4ara 29 August 2019 15: 48
                        0
                        Quote: Zeev Zeev
                        And why does the United States dominate the globe? And what resources could be taken in the USSR, which are not in the USA? Or in other countries? Uchkuduk uranium mines? It’s easier to capture Congo. Oil? And collapse the US oil market? Especially since then they did not even discover a tenth of modern Russian deposits, and oil in the USSR produced half a dozen places. What resources of the USSR could interest the USA? And the spread of communism was not overcome by a bomb, but by an increase in the standard of living. This is the ideology of the poor, not people who have a dream to build a cozy house and have two cars.

                        Why dominance? Answer: then.
                        What resources? - all
                      2. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 20: 04
                        0
                        Well yes. Why? Because! Domination over the planet is a real gömel, which nobody needs. States including. And the resources are much closer and much more convenient for mining.
                  2. Alf
                    Alf 29 August 2019 14: 42
                    0
                    Quote: Zeev Zeev
                    Can you name one reason for the attack on the USSR?

                    The existence of the USSR.
                    1. Zeev Zeev
                      Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 15: 21
                      -2
                      Is this the USSR where half a million trucks were delivered? So it is easier to sell such spare parts for "Studebakers".
                      1. reservist
                        reservist 30 August 2019 10: 23
                        0
                        Quote: Zeev Zeev
                        This is the USSR in which half a million trucks delivered?

                        from wiki
                        During the war years, the fleet of the Red Army was replenished with a large number of new cars, largely due to imports. The army received 444 new vehicles, of which 700% are imported and 63,4% are domestic.
                        444 x 700% = 281 imported cars

                        from the same wiki
                        ... 62% of all cars received, which were all new and modern, were tractors, of which 60% were Studebaker ...
                        281 x 040% = 62 pcs. Studebaker
                      2. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 30 August 2019 11: 24
                        0
                        And how many cars assembled from American car kits were recorded in Soviet production?
                      3. reservist
                        reservist 30 August 2019 12: 34
                        0
                        read on tech.wikireading.ru
                        The Americans took into account the shipped car kits, like finished cars, and in the USSR, part of the Lend-Lease cars assembled at car factories was often introduced into the total volume of their own products.
                        ...
                        According to the most detailed data from the US Department of State, for the period from June 22, 1941 to September 20, 1945 a total of 439 were shipped from the United States under all Lend-Lease agreements to the USSR cars of all kinds, of them arrived at their destination - 411 vehicles, and losses in transit amounted to 14 747 units. From this quantity 362 vehicles (288%) were trucks of all types, including heavy amphibians, but without workshops, tractors and tow trucks and other special equipment, and another 43 jeeps of all brands (728%). The largest share fell on 10,6-ton trucks - 2,5 units, followed by 199-ton class trucks - 937 units. From Great Britain and Canada, by April 1,5, 151, 043 cars arrived in the USSR, but according to our statistics, they also received much less.
                      4. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 30 August 2019 14: 43
                        -1
                        Perfectly. That is, not half a million, but "only" 362 thousand. But this did not stop Soviet historians from attributing these machines to Soviet industry.
                      5. reservist
                        reservist 30 August 2019 17: 58
                        0
                        what data came from the factories, they wrote down, it was more convenient for the factory workers to write down on themselves ... the machines themselves were not unpacked and were not going to ...

                        That is, not half a million, but "only" 362 thousand.

                        if you pay "only" 50 instead of 000 on the day of your pay - will there be a difference?
                      6. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 30 August 2019 13: 26
                        -1
                        Moreover, "Studebakers" (not all of them, of course) were assembled at ZIL. On those conveyors where ZISs were previously assembled.
                      7. reservist
                        reservist 30 August 2019 14: 38
                        0
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        .. collected on ZIL

                        which until 1956 was ZiSom
                      8. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 30 August 2019 14: 43
                        -1
                        And Volgograd was Stalingrad, although the city is the same.
                      9. reservist
                        reservist 30 August 2019 18: 02
                        0
                        say more - "Battle of Volgograd" ...
                      10. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 30 August 2019 18: 10
                        -1
                        "AMO, 1st GAZ, ZIS, ZIL, PO ZIL, AMO ZIL" - is that correct?
                      11. reservist
                        reservist 16 September 2019 15: 01
                        0
                        yes, only this is "absolutely" right
                        in reality, the factory is remembered by marking its cars as AMO, ZIS, ZIL
              2. Rust0626
                Rust0626 29 August 2019 10: 36
                +3
                And what was the reason the Americans invaded Russia in 1918?
                1. Zeev Zeev
                  Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 10: 51
                  -6
                  Allied obligations under the Entente. Russia entered it quite like that.
                  1. Rust0626
                    Rust0626 29 August 2019 11: 06
                    +3
                    Quote: Zeev Zeev
                    Allied obligations under the Entente. Russia entered it quite like that.

                    Russia left the Entente in 1917
                    1. Zeev Zeev
                      Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 11: 38
                      -3
                      Yes? The result of a coup?
          2. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 29 August 2019 09: 30
            0
            Quote: Zeev Zeev
            And why should the US attack the USSR?

            And why did Churchill ask for a nuclear strike against the USSR?
            1. Zeev Zeev
              Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 10: 06
              -1
              When and from whom did you ask?
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 29 August 2019 13: 35
                +2
                Quote: Zeev Zeev
                Churchill requested a nuclear strike against the USSR

                "An FBI agent recording says Churchill urged Republican Senator Stiles Bridge to persuade US President Harry Truman to launch a nuclear strike that would" wipe out "the Kremlin and turn the Soviet Union into a" minor problem, " newspaper.

                https://ria.ru/20141109/1032386748.html
            2. Karabas
              Karabas 29 August 2019 11: 05
              +3
              And why did Churchill ask for a nuclear strike against the USSR?

              Not why, but why. And because he had an innate degree of moronity (this is a medical fact confirmed by his close relatives) plus a host of accompanying psychological deviations, as is usual in such cases, such as feelings of inferiority, spontaneous aggression, narcism ...
              1. voffchik7691
                voffchik7691 29 August 2019 11: 26
                0
                Do not forget about addiction to cognac, Armenian cognac, which he suppressed with bottles!
                1. Karabas
                  Karabas 29 August 2019 12: 17
                  +1
                  Do not forget about addiction to cognac, Armenian cognac, which he suppressed with bottles!

                  Yes. Which he beg for Stalin. Once he got drunk and got on a plane (and the planes then were just a fuselage with a motor, without any climate control there), he pissed, and when the plane gained altitude, all this on his pants and froze. On landing, he fought in hysteria that the damned commies left him without dignity, because froze.
                  1. voffchik7691
                    voffchik7691 29 August 2019 12: 46
                    0
                    A very interesting fact, I did not know! ☺
                2. lis-ik
                  lis-ik 29 August 2019 14: 20
                  -1
                  Quote: voffchik7691
                  Do not forget about addiction to cognac, Armenian cognac, which he suppressed with bottles!

                  According to other sources, I used and requested the last stocks of the Shustovsky ridge.
                  1. Pedrodepackes
                    Pedrodepackes 30 August 2019 11: 05
                    0
                    Quote: Karabas
                    because he had an innate degree of moronity

                    Quote: voffchik7691
                    addiction to cognac, Armenian cognac, which he suppressed with bottles!

                    Quote: Karabas
                    pissed, and when the plane gained altitude, all this on his pants and froze.

                    Quote: lis-ik
                    begging for the last stocks of Shustovsky ridge.

                    Rzhaka, I hope this is all banter, and not signs that you ... er ... mmm .. fool
          3. voffchik7691
            voffchik7691 29 August 2019 10: 00
            +4
            And why did the US attack Vietnam, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan?
            What immediate threat came from these US states?
            1. Zeev Zeev
              Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 10: 13
              -3
              The United States did not attack Vietnam. The United States got involved in the war on the side of the Republic of Vietnam, its ally, which was defending itself from aggression by the DRV. As in 1991, they were released at the head of the international coalition of Kuwait, captured by Saddam. But what for Obama climbed into Libya, you need to ask Obama.
              1. voffchik7691
                voffchik7691 29 August 2019 10: 43
                +4
                Afghanistan was also mentioned there. Now about Iraq, who pushed Saddam to Kuwait? And when he got in, they shouted "Yes, he could, so not good!"
                1. Zeev Zeev
                  Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 10: 56
                  -7
                  Who was pushing Saddam to Kuwait? Losses in the Iran-Iraq war and the slain Iraqi economy, which was restored only by an increase in oil revenues.
                  And the Americans invaded Afghanistan to destroy the power of the Taliban (despite the recent visit of representatives of the Taliban to Moscow, banned in Russia). Although the primary target was Osama bin Laden.
                  1. voffchik7691
                    voffchik7691 29 August 2019 11: 08
                    +3
                    On July 25, 1990, Saddam Hussein met with US Ambassador April Glaspi. The “Kuwaiti issue” was also discussed at the talks. “I have a direct instruction from the president - to seek better relations with Iraq. We do not have a point of view on inter-Arab conflicts, such as your border dispute with Kuwait ... This topic is not related to America ”

                    Strengthening the US military presence in the oil-rich region, near the borders of Iran, US military strategists considered it necessary. However, the deployment of large military forces without good reason could provoke indignation among the Arab countries, which already did not favor the Americans.
                    Another thing is military intervention in order to restore justice and suppress the aggression of a large Iraq with a powerful army against its small and defenseless neighbor.
                    1. Zeev Zeev
                      Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 11: 41
                      -7
                      A border dispute is not an occupation of a country.
                      1. voffchik7691
                        voffchik7691 29 August 2019 12: 28
                        +3
                        The border dispute, as a result of which the United States entrenched in the region. Doesn’t it seem to you that you are bustling and moving away from the answer? The border dispute is not an occupation; in Afghanistan they are also just for the sake of a good deed, but how many civilians have been destroyed over the years ?! And the crops of opium poppy have grown 40 times over the same time!
                      2. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 12: 40
                        -5
                        And before that, the United States was not in the region? Hmm. And who then drove the IRGC boats during the "tanker war"?
                      3. voffchik7691
                        voffchik7691 29 August 2019 12: 51
                        +1
                        Before that, the United States was in the region, in Pakistan, and from Afghanistan closer to Iran and the former Soviet republics, do not you? :-)
                      4. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 14: 28
                        -2
                        We are talking about the Gulf.
                      5. voffchik7691
                        voffchik7691 29 August 2019 12: 34
                        0
                        By the way, you are defending the United States, champions of peace, goodness and justice, and while trying to dissuade you, we are somewhat distracted from the original topic of the article, don’t you?
                  2. voffchik7691
                    voffchik7691 29 August 2019 11: 13
                    +3
                    And the Americans invaded Afghanistan to destroy the power of the Taliban (despite the recent visit of representatives of the Taliban to Moscow, banned in Russia). Although the primary target was Osama bin Laden.
                    The Taliban is alive and well, and Bin Laden was created by America itself. And the bin Laden family did business with the bushes ...
                    1. Zeev Zeev
                      Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 11: 42
                      -5
                      And what contracts did the USSR have with Germany ....
              2. Alexzn
                Alexzn 29 August 2019 11: 37
                -4
                And here it is not so simple. Not the Americans initiated the war in Libya. We went about the Europeans. Without much interest and desire.
          4. Doctor
            Doctor 29 August 2019 11: 37
            +3
            And why should the US attack the USSR?

            Can you name one reason for the attack on the USSR?

            One was. Stop the spread of communism in the world.
        2. voffchik7691
          voffchik7691 29 August 2019 09: 57
          +3
          I will add, besides, they considered the effectiveness of the USSR air defense and it turned out that after the first raid they were left without aviation. But they strongly did not want to fight on the ground with the Red Army of the 1945 model ...
      3. Pedrodepackes
        Pedrodepackes 29 August 2019 10: 56
        -5
        Quote: ROSS 42
        They don’t even have any desire to compensate countries for damage caused by aggression.

        but did they commit aggression, so that later someone would compensate something?
        1. reservist
          reservist 30 August 2019 10: 36
          0
          probably everything was only at the request of the legitimate governments of these countries ...
          1. Pedrodepackes
            Pedrodepackes 30 August 2019 10: 46
            -2
            Quote: reservist
            probably everything was only at the request of the legitimate governments of these countries ...

            my young friend, the above is just irony, it’s good that only five, as it’s softer to say, like you found laughing
            In fairness, the United States invited the government of this country to South Vietnam to protect against the DRV, and the United States sent its specialists to Laos and Cambodia exclusively to fight the North Vietnamese army, which no one had invited there, read the series of articles about the Vietnam War, here IN, for your reference. I will not write about other countries named in this campaign so that srach is not bred here, but among them there really are victims of state aggression.
            1. reservist
              reservist 30 August 2019 11: 16
              -1
              Quote: Pedrodepackes
              my young friend

              the above is just an irony ...
              similarly ...
    3. KCA
      KCA 29 August 2019 07: 00
      +1
      No one guesses, there were many reasons, the main one was that in Germany they built a heavy water reactor as a moderator, and the British destroyed 140 million bombers in 1944 with a bombers bombers, before that heavy ships carrying heavy water were drowned, at least 5 tons were needed for the reactor, and in those years it was not easy to obtain. Well, a mistake in the general concept of creating nuclear warheads also prevented
      1. Zeev Zeev
        Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 09: 19
        0
        The heavy water plant was blown up by a group of ten Norwegian special forces. After that, heavy water production ceased.
        1. KCA
          KCA 29 August 2019 10: 17
          +1
          The heavy water plant was then restored for a long time. His guard became so complex that the repetition of such an operation was already unthinkable. But the Norwegian patriots found a different way to stop the Nazis from using heavy water for the implementation of the uranium project: they informed the British about the departure of each transport vessel with strategic cargo. And the Royal Air Force pilots sent ships to the bottom.

          The final plans for the creation of atomic weapons in the Third Reich were buried in November 1944, when, after a massive bombardment of the Allied aviation (140 “flying fortresses” took part in the raid), heavy water production at the plant near Ryukan could no longer be restored. As a result, Hitler was not able to establish production of plutonium due to the lack of the required amount of heavy water in Germany.
          1. mat-vey
            mat-vey 29 August 2019 14: 34
            -1
            As a result, Hitler was unable to establish plutonium production due to the lack of the required amount of heavy water in Germany. - For the production of plutonium, a nuclear reactor is needed, the Germans never built one. They even abandoned the French.
            1. KCA
              KCA 29 August 2019 14: 44
              0
              And Kurchatov immediately began to make a uranium-graphite reactor for producing plutonium, there were also problems - in the USSR they couldn’t produce the necessary purity then, I don’t remember how to get out, sort of bought
              1. mat-vey
                mat-vey 29 August 2019 14: 58
                0
                The Germans were perplexed by the "Bote error" - "The diffusion length of thermal neutrons in carbon was equal to 61 centimeters; if graphite is ideally purified, then this most important parameter, which determines, in particular, the degree of absorption of free neutrons by the moderator, will increase to 70 centimeters. The Wehrmacht has already turned to to Siemens with a request for the supply of the purest graphite, and suddenly a brilliant scientific triumph gave way to a deafening defeat.In January 1941, Professor Bothe repeated his experiment to consolidate the result.A new sample was made of the purest Siemens electrographite, but as a result, of thermal neutrons in it was only 30 centimeters! It turned out that graphite was not suitable for moderators. Since the opinion of Botha was trusted, all experiments with graphite were stopped "
      2. mat-vey
        mat-vey 29 August 2019 14: 30
        -1
        That's just the use of heavy water as a moderator and was a mistake not allowing to create an atomic bomb.
    4. Simargl
      Simargl 29 August 2019 07: 27
      +2
      Quote: Observer2014
      You can guess why. At least until tomorrow. You can be tormented by guesses.
      Let's think in an accessible way.
      NF is not a cheap thing, and besides, the production of materials requires time and specific minerals.
      How much could Nazi Germany afford? 10? 20 charges
      And if you look, for comparison, the results of conventional and nuclear bombing - what is the difference?
      The answer, oddly enough, is simple: with the active use of nuclear weapons by the Nazis, the results of the war would not have changed, but in the post-war conflicts they would have used nuclear weapons with intuition.
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 29 August 2019 14: 35
        -1
        The Germans could only afford a "dirty bomb".
        1. Simargl
          Simargl 30 August 2019 06: 08
          0
          Quote: mat-vey
          The Germans could only afford a "dirty bomb".
          Why? There was enough ore. Another thing - they messed up with enrichment: they chose a method worthless.
          1. mat-vey
            mat-vey 30 August 2019 13: 22
            -1
            "Why?" - because they walked along the dead-end path of creating a nuclear explosive device, but they could have dirtied the territory with radioactive materials, since they had them available.
    5. Doctor
      Doctor 29 August 2019 08: 06
      +7
      You can guess why.

      Speer Opinion:
      "From time to time Hitler talked to me about the possibilities of the atomic bomb, but the matter was clearly beyond his comprehension, he was unable to grasp the revolutionary nature of nuclear physics. My notes mention two thousand two hundred different issues that we touched upon in our conversations, and only once, and that very succinctly, mentions nuclear fission.Although he sometimes thought about its prospects, nevertheless my information about the conversation with physicists confirmed him that there was no point in doing this more energetically, especially since Professor Heisenberg did not gave the final answer to my question about whether it would be possible to keep the energy released by the fission of the nucleus under control or a continuous chain reaction would go on. Hitler was obviously not delighted with the idea that under his leadership the Earth could turn into a blazing star. At times he let go. jokes about scientists who, in their divorced from reality, striving to penetrate all the secrets of nature will turn Ze mly one fine day in a continuous fire; but that is still a long way off, and he probably won't live to see it. "

      And further:
      “At the suggestion of the nuclear scientists, we had already abandoned work on the atomic bomb in the fall of 1942. After my repeated question about the timing was answered, it could appear no earlier than in three or four years. By that time, the war should have Instead, I agreed to develop a power uranium boiler that propels machines, which the Navy has shown interest for installation on submarines. "
    6. armata_armata
      armata_armata 29 August 2019 09: 26
      +1
      You can guess why. At least until tomorrow. You can be tormented by conjectures. But why was that so?

      There were no resources, there are too few uranium mines and the critical mass has not been accumulated, why guess when everything has long been unraveled and written?
      1. KCA
        KCA 29 August 2019 10: 42
        +1
        Everything was smooth with uranium, they had mines in Czechoslovakia, they didn’t have a reactor
      2. mat-vey
        mat-vey 29 August 2019 14: 37
        -1
        And with the reactors was strained - plutonium accumulated slowly.
        1. Simargl
          Simargl 30 August 2019 06: 06
          0
          Quote: mat-vey
          And with the reactors was strained - plutonium accumulated slowly.
          Who is stopping uranium from being made? Well, it will be more, so what?
          1. mat-vey
            mat-vey 30 August 2019 13: 38
            -1
            "Who's stopping uranium from making?" - the same thing, weapons-grade uranium is not enriched by itself and, moreover, requires a huge amount of energy.
            1. Simargl
              Simargl 30 August 2019 17: 08
              0
              Quote: mat-vey
              the same thing, weapons-grade uranium is not enriched itself and also requires a gigantic amount of energy
              But the trick is that uranium enrichment is a physicochemical process, and plutonium production ...?
              1. mat-vey
                mat-vey 30 August 2019 17: 09
                -1
                The whole thing is that for that and for that you need a lot of time.
                1. Simargl
                  Simargl 30 August 2019 18: 23
                  0
                  Obtaining plutonium is a little more difficult: for it, uranium must be enriched and a reactor built.
                  1. mat-vey
                    mat-vey 30 August 2019 18: 29
                    -1
                    Uranium needs less enriched. Centrifuges need to be built the same.
                    1. Simargl
                      Simargl 31 August 2019 05: 49
                      0
                      Quote: mat-vey
                      Centrifuges must be built the same
                      The only problem is that there are dozens of enrichment methods, and centrifugation is one of them. The Americans, for example, did not use it - they used the gas diffusion method, and at the very beginning - also a magnetic separator, like the Germans. The Germans themselves did not succeed with centrifuges, although they tried to finalize the method.
                      1. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 31 August 2019 05: 56
                        -1
                        And what did you mean by that? What degree of enrichment for creating an explosive device will become lower? Or you don’t need to do all these devices? And what is the most important task - training qualified personnel for the maintenance and production of this entire economy, from making a bomb to receiving radioactive materials in two years to solve?
                      2. Simargl
                        Simargl 31 August 2019 07: 30
                        0
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        And what did you mean by that?

                        Quote: Simargl
                        Hitler did not get involved in the war with the USSR, hold out until the early 50s ...
                        ... would, would, would ... would drink Bavarian ... with numbered collars ...
                        Not enough time ...
                      3. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 31 August 2019 07: 32
                        -1
                        And what does it have to do with it?
                      4. Simargl
                        Simargl 31 August 2019 08: 34
                        0
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        And what does it have to do with it?
                        The Germans did not have enough time. And so - they had almost everything.
                        Even the bomb ... almost ...
                      5. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 31 August 2019 08: 35
                        -1
                        Have you heard anything about the "Bote error"? They went to a dead end.
                      6. Simargl
                        Simargl 31 August 2019 08: 58
                        0
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        Do you have anything about the "bot error"
                        She only slowed down the appearance the reactorbut accelerated (wouldbecause did not have time) the appearance of nuclear weapons, oddly enough. With a graphite moderator and U-238, a BoNba would have turned out so-so.
                      7. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 31 August 2019 09: 06
                        -1
                        And how would it accelerate? The Germans, in fact, didn’t get either a reactor or an explosive device.
                      8. Simargl
                        Simargl 31 August 2019 09: 23
                        0
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        And how would you speed it up?
                        A little more energy was invested in uranium enrichment.

                        Quote: mat-vey
                        The Germans, in fact, did not receive either a reactor or an explosive device.
                        And in Leipzig, what smelled?
                        But they didn’t have time to bomb.

                        You see, the question here is not what they didn’t receive, but what they could ... would ...
                        ... however, I have already noted this ...
                      9. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 31 August 2019 09: 29
                        -1
                        and what happened in Leipzig? The fact of the matter is that they could not.
                      10. Simargl
                        Simargl 31 August 2019 18: 35
                        0
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        and what happened in Leipzig?
                        No, but a reactor.
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        The fact of the matter is that they could not.
                        Come on! You belittle the intelligence of a gloomy genius.
                      11. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 1 September 2019 03: 27
                        0
                        What does intelligence have to do with it? We just went in the wrong direction, we can say for objective reasons - "correct" graphite was at that time a great rarity. In fact, they had nothing to do with nuclear weapons.
                        PySy - and yes, given the level of technology of that time, if "Any, no, but a reactor." , then the radiation there and now would be enough.
                      12. Simargl
                        Simargl 1 September 2019 07: 38
                        0
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        What does intelligence have to do with it? We just went in the wrong direction, we can say for objective reasons - the "correct" graphite was a rarity at that time
                        Yes. Why did you cling to this mistake? She was not decisive! As was not key in the creation of weapons!
                        Graphite is needed to start a self-sustaining reaction at low concentrations of fissile material, i.e. to create a reactor. You can still do this with heavy water or enrich the ore. A reactor, no one, was created there (yes, not 1,2 GW, but it generated heat).
                        Enrichment methods were known to them and they used them. Enriched uranium then went to us. So they could make a bomb, but they didn’t have time.
                        I already wrote about the effectiveness of nuclear weapons: try to compare the results of American and British conventional bombing with the result in Hiroshima and Nagasaki (the building of the chamber of commerce was almost half a bomb, if that).
                      13. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 1 September 2019 08: 34
                        0
                        "A reactor, whatever, was created there" - they did not have any reactor.
                      14. Simargl
                        Simargl 1 September 2019 20: 22
                        0
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        they didn’t have any reactor
                        What is that?
                        It is believed that they, nevertheless, fired nuclear explosions.
                      15. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 2 September 2019 17: 25
                        0
                        So it didn’t work?
                      16. Simargl
                        Simargl 3 September 2019 18: 36
                        0
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        So it didn’t work?
                        It is recognized as a worker. Another thing, this thing for nothing, except for the confirmation of calculations, was especially suitable. But that is a different topic.
                      17. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 4 September 2019 14: 17
                        0
                        And why, then, in order for it to work, it was necessary to load uranium?
                      18. Simargl
                        Simargl 5 September 2019 07: 22
                        0
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        And why, then, in order for it to work, it was necessary to load uranium?
                        Probably not to overload, but to overload? I didn’t go into details much, and I won’t find them.
                        That reactor worked on natural uranium 0,74% U235, because it quickly burned out, and there were few of it. And it exploded, just because of the overproduction of thermal energy as a result of a nuclear reaction.
                        But the main thing in his work is the confirmation of the theory and the ability to build more advanced machines.
                      19. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 5 September 2019 14: 53
                        0
                        ..... But the joy was premature - the reactor failed to reach a critical point. After recalculations, it turned out that the amount of uranium needed to be increased by another 750 kg
                      20. Simargl
                        Simargl 7 September 2019 10: 54
                        0
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        But the joy was premature
                        Why? I wrote: recognized as workers.

                        Quote: mat-vey
                        After recalculations, it turned out that the amount of uranium needed to be increased by another 750 kg
                        Uh ... what ?! There was a project for another one. But they didn’t - the war was over, scientists with documents and materials were stolen.
                      21. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 7 September 2019 11: 01
                        0
                        "Why? I wrote: recognized as a worker." - why then did uranium still need to "work"?
                      22. Simargl
                        Simargl 7 September 2019 11: 05
                        0
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        still needed uranium
                        He exploded. He no longer needed anything ...
                      23. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 7 September 2019 11: 06
                        0
                        "It exploded." - where is the radiation?
                      24. Simargl
                        Simargl 7 September 2019 14: 20
                        0
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        where is the radiation?
                        Uh ... do you read a little about that reactor, or what?
                        They barely got a reaction in a minimal volume of practically neutral raw materials, but should at least all of Leipzig be a radioactive desert?
                        There are natural nuclear reactors of the Leipzig type: ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_nuclear_reactor_v_Oklo
                      25. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 7 September 2019 14: 45
                        0
                        From what I read, powdered uranium and a chemical reaction with the release of hydrogen ignited.
                      26. Simargl
                        Simargl 7 September 2019 19: 20
                        0
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        From what I read, powdered uranium and a chemical reaction with the release of hydrogen ignited.
                        Correctly. But why was there no reaction when loading, and later started? From chemistry, we can assume that the conditions for a chemical reaction have been created, or rather, that the temperature has risen. At the stake, the sphere was not heated.
                      27. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 8 September 2019 05: 45
                        0
                        And from "life" we can assume that the tightness has failed.
                      28. Simargl
                        Simargl 8 September 2019 08: 06
                        0
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        And from "life" we can assume that the tightness has failed
                        This is speculation. Heavy water was already mixed with uranium. It remains only to heat before the onset of a chemical reaction.
                      29. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 8 September 2019 08: 11
                        0
                        That's all the protection for uranium was looking for. And hydrogen came from somewhere.
                      30. Simargl
                        Simargl 8 September 2019 08: 36
                        0
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        That's all the protection for uranium was looking for. And hydrogen came from somewhere
                        Hydrogen - from the water, oddly enough. Protection for uranium - so that there is no reaction (chemical). What is the problem? We are talking about a uranium machine that confirmed theoretical calculations!
                        Do you understand? This is where everything big begins! Or do you need to immediately build a VVER-1200? Maybe they could build, but download?
                      31. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 8 September 2019 08: 42
                        0
                        Actually, the conversation was about an explosive device, you took it towards the "machine".
                        And what is the problem? That hydrogen explodes and burns?
                        "Do you understand? This is where everything big starts! Or do you need to build a VVER-1200 at once? They might build, and maybe they could, but load it?" - and this is already about what?
                      32. Simargl
                        Simargl 8 September 2019 12: 01
                        0
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        you led away in the direction of the "machine".
                        No, not me.
                        You mentioned "bot error"And it has nothing to do with the production of a nuclear explosive device, since the production of U-235 is a process of enrichment, not a nuclear reaction.
                        If on the topic - the methods of enrichment were known to them, and not one. And they managed to enrich some uranium.
                        By and large, there was one basic message from me: they didn’t have enough timerather than knowledge. Well, money wassat

                        Quote: mat-vey
                        What's the problem?
                        None. The problem is that the reactor was 100% experimental and, in fact, it performed its function even before the explosion.

                        Quote: mat-vey
                        But this is about what?
                        What exactly? There are 4 sentences. All are significant.
                      33. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 8 September 2019 13: 28
                        0
                        "You mentioned the" Botha mistake ". And it has nothing to do with obtaining a nuclear explosive device" - and how, without neutrons of the required energy, to get a chain reaction? What will slow them down, neutrons?
                      34. Simargl
                        Simargl 9 September 2019 21: 06
                        0
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        and how without neutrons of the required energy to get a chain reaction?
                        Intensity. You have a problem: you do not understand why the "uranium machine" was needed.
                        Neither graphite nor heavy water is needed in the edible bonba.
                      35. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 10 September 2019 16: 38
                        0
                        Are you serious ?
                        "In the second work of Ya.B. Zeldovich and Yu.B. Khariton," On the chain decay of uranium under the action of slow neutrons, "the nuclear chain reaction on natural uranium is considered, when the main fission occurs in uranium-235. The fission reaction of uranium 235 proceeds more intensively with a decrease in the energy of neutrons and is not a threshold (the cross section of this reaction is inversely proportional to the speed of a neutron.) Therefore, to create favorable conditions for the chain reaction on uranium-235, it is necessary to slow down the neutrons. But uranium is a heavy element, so that when scattered by the nuclei of uranium atoms, the neutron loses a small part of the energy. Therefore, it is necessary to introduce a neutron moderator into uranium "
                      36. Simargl
                        Simargl 10 September 2019 20: 53
                        0
                        You don’t understand what you quoted.
                        Natural uranium - concentration of U-235 = 0,72%.
                        There are slightly different processes in the edible bonba. And a larger concentration of U-235 (or plutonium).
                        And moderators are needed for a thermal reactor.
                      37. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 11 September 2019 16: 16
                        0
                        Well, okay again - a moderator is needed for a chain reaction to slow down neutrons to the rate of "assimilation" by the nucleus.
                      38. Simargl
                        Simargl 11 September 2019 21: 19
                        0
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        Okay again
                        Well, tell me: where is the moderator in "Little Boy"?
                      39. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 12 September 2019 15: 13
                        0
                        You are right - a reflector.
                      40. Simargl
                        Simargl 12 September 2019 20: 45
                        0
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        You're right - reflector
                        And there was no reflector in Malysh. There was an initiator.
  3. Ilya-spb
    Ilya-spb 29 August 2019 06: 36
    +2
    It is good that the Nazis failed to create nuclear weapons.

    True, I read somehow a conspiracy theological version that I had created. But the Americans took away. And the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki - German production.
    1. Zliy_mod
      Zliy_mod 29 August 2019 06: 57
      +2
      In confirmation of this, the German offensive in the Ardennes, meaningless in terms of strategy, but with the aim of returning nuclear materials. As well as a long break in the US nuclear tests after the bombing of Japan.
    2. K-612-O
      K-612-O 29 August 2019 07: 01
      +3
      Well, this is a rare nonsense; almost all the best physicists at that time fled and were lured into the USA.
    3. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 29 August 2019 07: 36
      +1
      Quote: Ilya-spb
      True, I read somehow a conspiracy theological version that I had created. But the Americans took away. And the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki - German production.

      Almost true. The Germans at the end of the war sent to Japan a stock of uranium oxide, possibly enriched. On the submarine. The war ended, the boat surrendered to the allies, the Japanese escort made hara-kiri ... the Americans received a lot of fissile material ... it is very likely that he also went into nuclear stuffing ... And I have no doubt that the US is ready to drop a nuclear bomb on Russia. Yes, they did not have the right amount ... They did not have time to make it. Their scientists and technicians did not know how to work in unheated barracks for 12 hours ... And good! Loved comfort and good salaries.
      And still good.
      What is our SUCCESS!
      1. K-612-O
        K-612-O 29 August 2019 07: 49
        +9
        Uranium oxide cannot be enriched, first; the second is just almost the entire stock of German uranium-235, enriched, went to us.
        1. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 29 August 2019 07: 56
          0
          Well, how can I tell you
          Quote: K-612-O
          Uranium oxide cannot be enriched, first; the second is just almost the entire stock of German uranium-235, enriched, went to us.

          And in TVELs, in your opinion, in what condition is the fuel? In bombs, both uranium and plutonium are metallic ... But the fact that enriched uranium cannot be in ceramics (oxide, for example) is not so.
          1. K-612-O
            K-612-O 29 August 2019 09: 22
            +1
            What oxide ceramics ?! A uranium tablet is a mixture of uranium 238 and 235, in certain proportions, the assembly is usually in a zirconium case.
            1. Mountain shooter
              Mountain shooter 29 August 2019 09: 26
              +2
              Quote: K-612-O
              What oxide ceramics ?! A uranium tablet is a mixture of uranium 238 and 235, in certain proportions, the assembly is usually in a zirconium case.

              I advise you to familiarize yourself with the technology of fuel elements.
              This is a quote from Wiki.
              Most power reactors typically use ceramic cores made of uranium dioxide (UO2), which are not deformed during the fuel burnup cycle. Another important property of this compound is the absence of a reaction with water, which, if the fuel cladding is depressurized, can result in radioactive elements entering the coolant. Also, the advantages of uranium dioxide include the fact that its density is close to the density of uranium itself, which ensures the necessary neutron flux in the core.
              1. K-612-O
                K-612-O 29 August 2019 09: 55
                0
                You imagine that TVEL is a set of different materials, these are tablets of graphite, uranium, uranium dioxide, or different variations for specific types of reactors. Only uranium dioxide is not enriched, the enrichment process implies an increase in the proportion of uranium 235 from the extracted rock, then the process of mixing various materials and substances already begins for subsequent manufacture and molding.
                1. Mountain shooter
                  Mountain shooter 29 August 2019 14: 43
                  +1
                  I work with the TVEL plant, and I know what the fuel looks like. For that matter, the fuel is generally enriched in a gaseous state, in the form of uranium hexafluoride. 235 and 238 are chemically analogs. In short, learn the materiel ...
              2. Simargl
                Simargl 31 August 2019 09: 06
                0
                Quote: K-612-O
                A uranium tablet is a mixture of uranium 238 and 235, in certain proportions, the assembly is usually in a zirconium case
                No. Uranium in the assemblies, although enriched, is clearly not up to 100% with its 5-7%, and there is nothing wrong with the use of oxide.
      2. bubalik
        bubalik 29 August 2019 14: 37
        +1
        The Germans at the end of the war sent to Japan a stock of uranium oxide, possibly enriched. On the submarine.

        ,,, In the 1995 year, Lansdale revealed an amazing turn in the history of the surrender of the Nazi submarine U-234 to American troops in May 1945. Sent to Tokyo, she carried ten containers filled with 1200 pounds of uranium oxide. For many years, historians have wondered what the U.S. military did with this. In an interview with the New York Times by 31.12.1995. he said material originally intended for Japan’s nuclear program instead hit bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
        John Lansdale, Jr., Manhattan Project Security Officer
    4. mat-vey
      mat-vey 29 August 2019 14: 38
      -1
      "True, I once read a conspiracy theory that they did create. But the Americans took it away. And the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki are of German production." - fabulous nonsense.
  4. Zeev Zeev
    Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 06: 37
    -4
    Even if Hitler had nuclear weapons, it would hardly have helped him. And there could be no nuclear weapons in Nazi Germany, because nuclear physics for a long time was driven into a deep basement and could not develop, since most scientific publications on this topic in the Reich were banned. Due to the "non-Aryan origin" of most physicists.
    1. Zliy_mod
      Zliy_mod 29 August 2019 06: 58
      +1
      Due to the deep secrecy of the work, and not of Aryan origin.
      1. Zeev Zeev
        Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 08: 07
        -1
        In the US, secrecy was also on par. But they did the bomb. Moreover, it was made mostly by refugees from Germany, Austria, Poland, Hungary and other countries that were under the rule of the Nazis. And for the most part, these were scientists of the most non-Aryan origin.
        1. Vol4ara
          Vol4ara 29 August 2019 09: 23
          +3
          Quote: Zeev Zeev
          In the US, secrecy was also on par. But they did the bomb. Moreover, it was made mostly by refugees from Germany, Austria, Poland, Hungary and other countries that were under the rule of the Nazis. And for the most part, these were scientists of the most non-Aryan origin.

          And publications on this subject in the United States were also banned.
          1. Zeev Zeev
            Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 09: 25
            0
            Yes, without question, were banned. But they did the bomb.
            1. Vol4ara
              Vol4ara 29 August 2019 09: 33
              +5
              Quote: Zeev Zeev
              Yes, without question, were banned. But they did the bomb.

              They did, but forbade that publication, not because of the Jews, but because of secrecy, as in Germany
              1. Zeev Zeev
                Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 10: 00
                -4
                The Germans did not make the bomb, because most of the physicists and mathematicians had fallen down without waiting for their arrest and sending to Dachau. There is nothing to do with secrecy.
  5. Valery Valery
    Valery Valery 29 August 2019 06: 40
    +11
    German leaders and German scientists, in the end, there simply was not enough time.

    The question is - who did not leave this time for them ?!
    Answer: Soviet soldier and his heroism and selflessness.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 29 August 2019 07: 03
      +1
      Quote: Valery Valery
      The question is - who did not leave this time for them ?!
      Answer: Soviet soldier and his heroism and selflessness.

      good
      That is why the Soviet command was in a hurry to Victory, ignoring the losses, which to some seems like misses in the strategy, errors in military operations and the cruelty of our marshals (G.K. Zhukov in particular) against the soldiers, attributing to him the phrase:
      "Do not regret the soldier, women still give birth!"
      Anyone who claims that:
      Quote: Zeev Zeev
      Even if Hitler had nuclear weapons, it would hardly have helped him.

      I can offer you a picture of the atomic bomb dropping by German kamikaze pilots to Moscow, or where else. I’m not sure that the army would be able to quickly recover from such a blow, and the Germans would not have extra time.
      1. Zeev Zeev
        Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 09: 21
        +1
        Why to Moscow? To fly closer to London.
        1. voffchik7691
          voffchik7691 29 August 2019 10: 11
          +1
          And why June 22, 1941 in the USSR, and not England? England was closer ...
          :-)
          1. Zeev Zeev
            Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 10: 17
            0
            Because the British won the Battle of Britain, foiling plans to capture the island.
            1. Alf
              Alf 29 August 2019 14: 48
              0
              Quote: Zeev Zeev
              Because the British won the Battle of Britain, foiling plans to capture the island.

              Having lost the Battle and having received an unfinished enemy, rush at another? The fact that alozych was moved in phase has long been known, but the news about you surprised me.
              1. Zeev Zeev
                Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 15: 08
                +1
                Hitler was crazy, but his advisers can’t be called fools. Without superiority in air and sea, it was very difficult to capture Britain. And on the Channel, a period of storms began, and the landing became even more problematic. And the Germans understood this very well. And then a new contender for half of Europe appeared - Comrade Stalin, who sent Molotov to negotiations demanding all new lands.
                1. Alf
                  Alf 29 August 2019 15: 20
                  0
                  Quote: Zeev Zeev
                  No air superiority

                  About air superiority, I wrote below, as they say, they themselves are to blame, they began to fight, so do not rush. And about the dominance in the Channel, so take an interest in what losses Royal Navi suffered.
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 29 August 2019 06: 42
    +2
    Everything is correct. After marching victoriously and swiftly through Europe, Hitler hoped to end the Soviet Union just as quickly (or almost as quickly). And when I began to get tangibly in the head at first, and then roll to the west, I caught myself, but time was lost. And the German developments in "retaliation weapons" as well as missiles were naturally "privatized" by the Americans.
  7. Megamarcel
    Megamarcel 29 August 2019 06: 44
    +2
    Why, why. Because everything needs time and resources. Germany and long-range bombers were not. What they probably really regretted during the battle for GB. And in the USSR, too, they could not strike at great depths to destroy industry and cities.
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 29 August 2019 07: 08
      -8
      Hello, we arrived, already in July they began to bomb Moscow. Xe-111 and Do-189 are quite distant bombers for that time, the IL-4 is not even a couple, the radius of the Germans is 2 times larger. Another question is that the Germans, like us, did not pay enough attention to the atom and initially took the more difficult path working with uranium, while the Americans relied on plutonium. Although the Kid was uranium, obtaining uranium is a very complex and expensive process, and plutonium is quietly produced in the reactor.
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 29 August 2019 09: 56
        +2
        Runs quietly in the reactor? After Uranium , its ore, mined, refined, delivered to the reactor to then produce plutonium Pu ???
        There is still an intermediate stage --- neptunium np
        Yes, really calm ...
        1. K-612-O
          K-612-O 29 August 2019 10: 13
          0
          Only in the reactor 238 uranium is needed, enrichment, if any, is done no more than 0.5, 0.6%
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 29 August 2019 10: 45
            +1
            If a similar topic ---- I do not put cons, and you?
            Quote: K-612-O
            Only in the reactor 238 uranium is needed, enrichment, if any, is done no more than 0.5, 0.6%
      2. Zeev Zeev
        Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 10: 23
        -1
        In July 1941, German bombers were based near Smolensk.
      3. Alf
        Alf 29 August 2019 14: 54
        0
        Quote: K-612-O
        IL-4 they do not match, the radius of the Germans is 2 times larger.

        Radius XE-111 and IL-4 are approximately equal and amount to 1500-1900 km.
    2. Simargl
      Simargl 29 August 2019 07: 29
      +5
      Quote: MegaMarcel
      Germany and long-range bombers were not.
      But there were FAA. The British wouldn’t think so.
      1. voffchik7691
        voffchik7691 29 August 2019 10: 15
        -2
        FAU-1, perfectly knocked down by fighters on the approach, and the British called FAU-2 "flying gas lines". During their use, less than a dozen civilians died.
        1. Zeev Zeev
          Zeev Zeev 29 August 2019 10: 26
          +1
          During the use of V-2 in London alone, 2700 people died. And there were shelling of Rotterdam and Paris. Another question is that the Fau-2 could not bear the atomic charge of that time.
          1. Simargl
            Simargl 30 August 2019 06: 20
            0
            Quote: Zeev Zeev
            Another question is that the Fau-2 could not bear the atomic charge of that time.
            I did not write about the modification. You think you would not have guessed V-2 in a package to collect?
            1. Zeev Zeev
              Zeev Zeev 30 August 2019 06: 37
              +1
              How long would it take to develop this rocket?
              1. Simargl
                Simargl 30 August 2019 07: 41
                0
                Quote: Zeev Zeev
                How long would it take to develop this rocket?
                Oh no more than V-2
                1. Zeev Zeev
                  Zeev Zeev 30 August 2019 10: 22
                  +1
                  V-2 was developed from 1938 to 1944 (the first combat launch)
                  1. Simargl
                    Simargl 30 August 2019 17: 11
                    +1
                    Quote: Zeev Zeev
                    from 1938 to 1944 year
                    6 years from scratch? Yes it is instant!
                    Hitler did not get involved in the war with the USSR, hold out until the early 50s ...
                    ... would, would, would ... would drink Bavarian ... with numbered collars ... crying
        2. Alf
          Alf 29 August 2019 15: 00
          +1
          Quote: voffchik7691
          During their use, less than a dozen civilians died.

    3. Alf
      Alf 29 August 2019 14: 52
      +1
      Quote: MegaMarcel
      Germany and long-range bombers were not. What they probably really regretted during the battle for GB.

      They and ordinary 88th and 111th British have arranged paradise life. If not for the transfer of bombing from airfields to London, the swastika would have been beaten over the coast.
  8. Avior
    Avior 29 August 2019 06: 56
    0
    Even if the Germans had atomic weapons at the same time as the Americans, the question is whether they dared to use them. The chemical was never used for fear of retaliation.
    Germany would have been destroyed in response to the root, and it would have been difficult for Hitler to apply it to his main opponents at the end of the war
  9. mark1
    mark1 29 August 2019 07: 16
    +3
    But where did the Americans get the uranium bomb? With it, it’s quite ready for itself, without testing.
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 29 August 2019 07: 22
      +2
      The uranium, the so-called cannon scheme, is very reliable, and does not need to be tested, implosive compression does not work there, but on the contrary, the initiation takes place inside the charge material. And Americans have been enriching uranium since they were 39 years old. And the tests were carried out in New Mexico precisely of the plutonium charge, to confirm the implosive scheme.
      1. mark1
        mark1 29 August 2019 07: 56
        +1
        Everyone experiences, even grenades. Even a barrel of gunpowder if a new product. Your version is weak.
        1. K-612-O
          K-612-O 29 August 2019 09: 24
          0
          The baby and experienced only over Hiroshima.
    2. vadimtt
      vadimtt 29 August 2019 08: 31
      +3
      Now, taking into account the underground "rubber" plant in Selesia, which consumed more electricity than a full-fledged aluminum smelter and produced either 20 or 200 tons of rubber during its entire existence (several years) laughing And no one was shot for this, which is typical.
      Well, and incomprehensible "special effects" with a flash of light and a light earthquake in the area of ​​a group of uninhabited islands, sorry, I don't remember their names, not far from the coast of Germany.
      There are such facts, of course, they can be interpreted in different ways, but the version of the successful creation of a barrel-type uranium atomic bomb is no worse than others. Yes, and another funny moment - in the same wiki (ha ha of course, but you won’t erase the words from the song) about the kid it is written about a 164mm naval gun. As far as I know, the United States did not. But it was in France. It’s not difficult to guess where all the new French trunks ended up laughing
      So "not everything is so simple" bully
  10. base1
    base1 29 August 2019 07: 16
    0
    Even if they had time, how many of them could be created? And after application, what kind of bitterness would receive from the allies? And so yes, thank God that they did not pay close attention
  11. Dmitry Bolotsky
    Dmitry Bolotsky 29 August 2019 07: 30
    0
    I think the truth of the whole we will never know. The version that the amers got the materials and developments of the Germans, as a result of which 5 bombs were created and used, seems to be the most logical. After using them, the United States had a long break, which cannot be explained.
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 29 August 2019 07: 37
      +2
      The long break was due only to the process of producing plutonium and the production of mass-produced products; I recall that by the year 49, the United States manufactured about 300 products of the Fatty type
  12. Nitarius
    Nitarius 29 August 2019 07: 34
    0
    who said that they did not create? ... read the Black Sun of the Third Reich .. and you will understand what it was! But it didn’t play a significant role!
  13. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
    SERGEY SERGEEVICS 29 August 2019 08: 06
    +3
    which prevented Nazi Germany from creating a nuclear bomb before it was created in the United States.

    By the time the Germans began to gain tremendous momentum in the creation of a nuclear bomb, the 3reich was practically defeated, and there was practically no means and potential for this to make this allot possible.
    that Hitler did not define such a task as a priority.

    But automatic firearms were determined by their priority, but they also failed to realize this in the future. For this, they also did not have the time and money.
    Striped thanks to them and were able to create their own nuclear weapons.
    And ours, in this regard, also did an excellent job.
  14. Angelica
    Angelica 29 August 2019 08: 28
    +1
    And thank God that the Nazis did not receive nuclear weapons.
    If it were otherwise, it is unlikely that we would discuss anything now.
  15. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 29 August 2019 11: 23
    +2
    I do not agree with this version.
    Hitler attached primary importance to the development of nuclear weapons from the second half of the war. After the failure in Russia in the Battle of Kursk and the beginning of the retreat.
    But organizationally, the Nazis divided scientists into three parallel groups. Since they did not know the correct technological path. But there were not enough scientists. Before the war, Jewish physicists were mainly involved in the atom. Three groups each went their own way, and not very advanced.
    A lot of money was allocated, but in 1945 SS officers began to simply steal this money (transferring it abroad), and Hitler was fooled that "just about" the Weapon of Vengeance would be created. After the defeat of the Nazis, the Americans managed to check the German nuclear weapons development centers (including in Czechoslovakia). We found many developments, not a single combat prototype.
    1. NF68
      NF68 29 August 2019 16: 18
      0
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Hitler attached primary importance to the development of nuclear weapons from the second half of the war. After the failure in Russia in the Battle of Kursk and the beginning of the retreat.
      But organizationally, the Nazis divided scientists into three parallel groups. Since they did not know the correct technological path. But there were not enough scientists. Before the war, Jewish physicists were mainly involved in the atom. Three groups each went their own way, and not very advanced.
      Money allocated a lot


      What kind of nuclear weapons, when even simpler problems, was extremely difficult to solve due to the constant lack of all resources at the beginning of WWII?
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 29 August 2019 16: 29
        +1
        Well, the Nazis solved many problems: the lack of oil, and much more. Otherwise, they would not have expanded bloody from the Atlantic to the Volga.
        My hypothesis is supported by the fact that, up to the last weeks or days of the war, Hitler looked unusually optimistic. And only for all sorts of cocaine this can not be attributed.
        I liked to talk about the "weapon of retaliation". And what could it be other than a nuclear warhead?
        The production of the Fau-2 BR was transferred due to the bombing to the Czech Republic, to a plant under the mountain. It was also planned to collect nuclear weapons there. There were built laboratories. Money went there too.
        But the Fuhrer did not know that the project manager was bluffing and simply stealing money. And thank God that this happened.
        1. NF68
          NF68 29 August 2019 16: 52
          0
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Well, the Nazis solved many problems: the lack of oil, and much more. Otherwise, they would not have expanded bloody from the Atlantic to the Volga.


          The Germans solved almost all of these problems until the opposing countries of Germany made appropriate conclusions from their many mistakes, and when the countries of the anti-Hitler coalition thoroughly set about correcting their mistakes, the Germans began to do things in the worst possible way, despite the fact that that German troops were in Stalingrad and in the Atlantic, the Allies suffered huge losses.

          My hypothesis is supported by the fact that, up to the last weeks or days of the war, Hitler looked unusually optimistic. And only for all sorts of cocaine this can not be attributed.
          I liked to talk about the "weapon of retaliation".


          Hitler said a lot. For example, he also assured his entourage that the war with BI would not begin earlier than the mid-40s and that the United States, the United States, is just a nation of traders incapable of anything else. He also assured that the contradictions between BI and the United States would also play a positive role for Germany. In terms of the production of weapons of retaliation, the USSR and the Western allies of the USSR made their "contribution", as a result of which very big problems arose with the production of almost all types of weapons of retaliation, which did not allow Germany to fight on equal terms with its opponents.


          For example, Germany, even in the 1943-1944's, when its industry reached its peak of production, could not even catch the BI in the number of aircraft engines produced. About the comparison with the United States and not worth mentioning:



          The production of the Fau-2 BR was transferred due to the bombing to the Czech Republic, to a plant under the mountain. It was also planned to collect nuclear weapons there. There were built laboratories. Money went there too.


          From laboratory research to the production of nuclear weapons, the path is very, very long.

          But the Fuhrer did not know that the project manager was bluffing and simply stealing money. And thank God that this happened.


          Thank God that Germany did not have the opportunity to undertake the development of its nuclear program as thoroughly as the United States and that Germany could allocate less funds and even fewer people for this 2.
  16. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 29 August 2019 15: 40
    +1
    And thank God that atomic weapons did not appear then at the Wehrmacht!
  17. NF68
    NF68 29 August 2019 16: 13
    0
    After Hitler came to power in Germany, it was necessary to intensively develop almost all industries and there was always not enough money for this. There was no time for nuclear weapons.
  18. faterdom
    faterdom 29 August 2019 20: 33
    +3
    Quote: AlexZN
    If the states set themselves the goal of nuclear bombing of the USSR in the late 40s - early 50s, then technically they would have no obstacles.

    If you don’t know, the Korean war put everything in its place: during the tough confrontation between our and American pilots, it became clear that no massive bombing raid, even with fighter cover in the USSR, could be any successful. There are many details about how and why, but the overall result is this, and for both sides it has become quite clear and understandable.
    Then came the era of the rocket competition, which narrowed down to the point of bifurcation - the "Caribbean Crisis", but even then the result was murky, although Khrushchev largely bluffed. But he won.
    And hereinafter - the attack on the USSR or later on Russia - just a perverted method of suicide, no more, but no less.
    So, the Americans have not experienced and are not experiencing any "civilizational" obstacles there, rather it is called "I am getting a point, Slavik ..."