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In Poland, they said that Lukashenko refused to come to the 80 anniversary of the start of World War II

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Polish media, citing the Belarusian diplomatic mission in Warsaw, reported on the refusal of Alexander Lukashenko to travel to Poland for commemorative events dedicated to the 80 anniversary of the outbreak of World War II. Recall that the Polish authorities did not invite Russian President Vladimir Putin to these events, saying that "such an invitation would be inappropriate in connection with the ongoing aggression against Ukraine."


In Poland, they said that Lukashenko refused to come to the 80 anniversary of the start of World War II


In this regard, the Polish media write that Alexander Lukashenko refused to travel to Warsaw in solidarity with Vladimir Putin.
According to the latest data, Belarus at the mentioned events will be represented by the ambassador of the republic in Warsaw.

At the moment, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Belarus does not comment on issues related to which of the country's authorities will go to Poland.

On the website of the President of Belarus, meanwhile, information is posted about his meeting with representatives of the Turkish delegation, headed by Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu. The Turkish Minister arrived in Minsk after visiting the MAKS-2019 in the suburbs. Lukashenko and Chavushoglu discussed the possibility of additional increase in trade turnover, which last year reached almost 1 billion dollars. At the moment, the lion's share of trade between Minsk and Ankara is Belarus’s import of Turkish goods and services.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 29 August 2019 06: 08
    +13
    In Poland, they said that Lukashenko refused to come to the 80 anniversary of the start of World War II
    Thugs, is that a holiday? She didn’t perish, but it’s a pity that Germany would have been in its place. We would have a gas pipeline there, and from there Bavarian. feel
    1. 210ox
      210ox 29 August 2019 06: 19
      +15
      It can be noted on September 17. Liberation campaign in western Belarus. And not only there .. hi
    2. K-612-O
      K-612-O 29 August 2019 06: 29
      +1
      Also down the pipe laughing
    3. Pedrodepackes
      Pedrodepackes 29 August 2019 06: 41
      +18
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Thugs, is that a holiday?

      Even from such a tragic day for everyone, politicians manage to make public relations for themselves (I’m talking about the Poles, if Che). In general, I don’t understand why September 1, 1939 is considered the beginning of World War II, July 7, 1937. Japan attacked China, the war It lasted until the end of World War II, both countries were its participants, the USSR and the USA helped China, also participants, Japan was in alliance with Germany and Italy and received technology from Germany, and from Italy airplanes. We should agree with China and mark this date in this case.
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 29 August 2019 06: 47
        +4
        History is Eurocentric. Japan unleashed WWII.
        1. Major Yurik
          Major Yurik 29 August 2019 09: 08
          +4
          We were not invited on the day the war began, because we interfere with the start of the war with civilians!
          Call the doctors! negative Polish logic is second only to Bandera in its schizoid component! am
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 29 August 2019 08: 15
        +5
        Quote: Pedrodepackes
        why 1 of September 1939 was considered the beginning of World War II, 7 of July 1937, Japan attacked China, the war continued until the end of World War II
        All peoples who took part in the Second World War have their own start date. Residents of the Soviet space will first of all remember 22 on June 1941, the Poles on September 1939, the French on 1940. For the Chinese, there is no such border: in fact, the entire first half of the 20th century was for the Celestial Empire a continuous series of wars that ended exactly 60 years ago with the declaration of the PRC.
        1. Pedrodepackes
          Pedrodepackes 29 August 2019 08: 19
          0
          Quote: tihonmarine
          All peoples who took part in the Second World War have their own start date.

          I do not argue, but nevertheless they installed it officially from 1.09.1939/XNUMX/XNUMX., which, according to some historians, is not entirely correct.
          Quote: tihonmarine
          ... that ended exactly 60 years ago with the proclamation of the PRC.
          Well, with the end of World War II, there, after all, a civil war was going on.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 29 August 2019 09: 01
            0
            [quote = Pedrodepacks] I do not argue, but still they installed it officially with 1.09.1939., which, according to some historians, is not entirely correct. [/ quote]
            Of course, for England and France it was impossible to establish the beginning of the war in Europe by the occupation of Czechoslovakia because [quote] While the Western powers and Germany were discussing the future of the Sudetenland, Poland presented the ultimatum of Czechoslovakia on September 21 of September 1938. Warsaw demanded "return" Tieszyn region, in which a third of the population were ethnic Poles. On 30 of September 1938, when the Munich Agreement was signed, Poland sent Czechoslovakia a second ultimatum. On the same day, when parts of the Wehrmacht entered the Sudetenland, the Polish Army invaded the territory of the Tieszyn region of Czechoslovakia. England and France this time were forced to remain silent, allowing Hitler Germany to swallow Czechoslovakia. On 14 of March 1939 of the year, Hitler Germany brought its troops into the territory of the Czech Republic, which was now called the protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia. Quote] Here is the 14 of March of the 1939 of the year and should be considered the beginning of the Second World War II.
            1. Pedrodepackes
              Pedrodepackes 29 August 2019 09: 04
              +1
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Here is March 14, 1939 and should be considered the beginning of the Second World War.

              controversial ... there was no "hot" stage, purely political showdown
        2. Vol4ara
          Vol4ara 29 August 2019 09: 39
          +2
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: Pedrodepackes
          why 1 of September 1939 was considered the beginning of World War II, 7 of July 1937, Japan attacked China, the war continued until the end of World War II
          All peoples who took part in the Second World War have their own start date. Residents of the Soviet space will first of all remember 22 on June 1941, the Poles on September 1939, the French on 1940. For the Chinese, there is no such border: in fact, the entire first half of the 20th century was for the Celestial Empire a continuous series of wars that ended exactly 60 years ago with the declaration of the PRC.

          Never for the USSR on June 22 was the beginning of the Second World War, on June 22 the beginning of the Great Patriotic War, as well as for the other countries you listed
      3. serg.shishkov2015
        serg.shishkov2015 29 August 2019 09: 04
        +2
        You're right! the official start date of 2MB is already being questioned! Given the fact that Poland at that time was also an aggressor country! so representing Poland on September 1, 1939 an innocent victim .....
        1. Pedrodepackes
          Pedrodepackes 29 August 2019 09: 10
          0
          Quote: serg.shishkov2015
          You're right! the official start date of 2MB is already being questioned!

          Yes, it has long been questioned by learned historians, and I just support this point of view and do not pretend to the ultimate truth. But anyway, thanks for the support.
          1. serg.shishkov2015
            serg.shishkov2015 29 August 2019 09: 34
            0
            So to the WWII can be attributed to the war in Latin America, and the war in the colonies, the same Spain in Africa with its first use of tanks. In general, the 2-20s of the last century were very hectic, everyone fought! And all over the world!
            1. Pedrodepackes
              Pedrodepackes 29 August 2019 11: 04
              +1
              Quote: serg.shishkov2015
              So to the WWII can be attributed to the war in Latin America, and the war in the colonies

              not quite so, because the unifying here may be not so much the presence of future participants as the unions formed by them and the goals of these unions, I think so.
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    5. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 29 August 2019 07: 24
      +1
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Thugs, is that a holiday?

      The article says "commemorative events", but here how to look, "day of sorrow" or "holiday". If you invite Merkel and their satellites on WWII, then a holiday.
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 29 August 2019 07: 32
        +2
        Yes, the main thing is that we would not be there. And the Belarusians were invited to tear us away.
        1. Pedrodepackes
          Pedrodepackes 29 August 2019 08: 25
          0
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          Yes, the main thing is that we would not be there.

          I'm wondering, will China be there?
          1. Mavrikiy
            Mavrikiy 29 August 2019 08: 43
            +1
            Quote: Pedrodepackes
            Quote: Mavrikiy
            Yes, the main thing is that we would not be there.

            I'm wondering, will China be there?

            Logically, no. China strongly believes that WWII began a little earlier. Although, objectively, the WWII had stages of development, from the local war on the Far East, from the local war on the European theater of war to a full-scale MV, and it’s difficult to pinpoint the start date of the WWII, it will be the local date. And where is Germany and Poland? Local showdowns. Rather, the declaration of war by England, France. So they started the war? feel
            1. Pedrodepackes
              Pedrodepackes 29 August 2019 08: 51
              0
              Quote: Mavrikiy
              Logically, no. China strongly believes that WWII began a little earlier.

              not only China thinks so, but when politicians were guided by historical logic, they did. like women, their own logic))
              1. Mavrikiy
                Mavrikiy 29 August 2019 08: 57
                0
                Quote: Pedrodepackes
                Quote: Mavrikiy
                Logically, no. China strongly believes that WWII began a little earlier.

                not only China thinks so, but when politicians were guided by historical logic, they did. like women, their own logic))

                this is so, and then such turbulences begin and stunning conclusions are made.
  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 29 August 2019 06: 12
    +16
    Alexander Lukashenko refused a trip to Warsaw in solidarity with Vladimir Putin
    Perhaps this is one of the reasons, but the main one is that A. Lukashenko (no matter how anyone refers to him) is also painful to watch how European countries distort the results of the 2nd MV, downplay, and sometimes exclude the role USSR in victory over fascist Germany. I think the act is worthy of respect. The ambassador will be present and represent the country.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 29 August 2019 07: 32
      0
      I'm also for. How can you stand together with those whose grandfathers and fathers, together with Hitler, fought against the USSR and against the same Poland. The grandfathers and fathers of whom served faithfully to Hitler in the Waffen SS, punitive battalions such as Roland and Nachtigall, killed our people. I am ashamed of Poland and other former Soviet republics.
  3. Egoza
    Egoza 29 August 2019 06: 19
    +16
    And he did the right thing! And not even "as a sign of solidarity with Putin." Lukashenko always had great respect for the Soviet army and veterans of the Great Patriotic War. And if they also begin to declare that Hitler and Stalin unleashed a war .... decent people have nothing to do at this "celebration".
  4. Valery Valery
    Valery Valery 29 August 2019 06: 25
    +3
    Lukashenka did not go to Poland due to the fact that the Polish nobles will once again call the USSR the culprit of World War II and all other "Polish sufferings".
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 29 August 2019 07: 42
      -6
      Quote: Valery Valery
      Lukashenka did not go to Poland due to the fact that the Polish nobles will once again call the USSR the culprit of World War II and all other "Polish sufferings".

      I have great respect for J.V. Stalin, but I cannot forgive him for the liberation of Poland and all of Western Europe. Well, I would have reached Brest and the border, stopped the troops, and said "Grandpa Schiklsngruber, now do what you want with this civilized Europe." And there would be no European Union now, but there would be a third reich.
      1. Pedrodepackes
        Pedrodepackes 29 August 2019 08: 29
        +2
        Quote: tihonmarine
        I really respect I.V. Stalin, but I can not forgive him the liberation of Poland

        short-sighted ... Poland was not liberated for its liberation, it was necessary to finish off the Natsiks, and not go to Berlin bypassing Warsaw. Would do so then
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Grandfather Shiklsngruber
        I would have accumulated strength, otherwise I would have sang with our allies and repeated the 41st, but do we need it? The mistake was in another, he gave too many "buns" to Poland in the form of territories and injections of funds into its economy at the expense of our plundered country. And these bastards (AKovtsy, I mean) even before the 47th our servicemen were killed.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 29 August 2019 09: 17
          -1
          Quote: Pedrodepackes
          I would have accumulated strength, otherwise I would have sung with our allies and repeated 41, but do we need it?

          Beaten once, the second time will not climb. But in Europe, he would put things in order.
          1. Pedrodepackes
            Pedrodepackes 29 August 2019 09: 19
            +2
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Beaten once, the second time will not climb.

            but what about Hitler's attempts to conclude a separate peace in 1944, and Churchill's "Unthinkable" plan? No, the USSR was like a bone in the throat to everyone.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 29 August 2019 09: 30
          +3
          Quote: Pedrodepackes
          short-sighted ... Poland was not liberated for its liberation, it was necessary to finish off the Natsiks,

          And then what is visionary
          A total of about 9 million Soviet soldiers participated in the liberation of 11 European countries. The irretrievable losses of the Red Army during the liberation of the states of Europe amounted to:

          • in Poland - 600212 people;
          • in Czechoslovakia - 139918 people;
          • in Hungary - 140004 people;
          • in Germany - 101961 people;
          • in Romania - 68993 people;
          • in Austria - 26006 people;
          • in Yugoslavia - 7995 people;
          • in Norway - 3436 people;
          • in Bulgaria - 977 people;

          In total, the irretrievable losses of the Red Army during the "liberation of Europe" amounted to about 1 million people
          And these are our people, our fathers and grandfathers. "Human blood is not water" This must always be remembered.
          1. Pedrodepackes
            Pedrodepackes 29 August 2019 11: 08
            +1
            Quote: tihonmarine
            And these are our people, our fathers and grandfathers. "Human blood is not water" This must always be remembered.

            I understand all this, but if it were possible to defeat Germany or at least force peace without entering Berlin, then I am for it. But there were no other ways, only through the countries you mentioned led the way to victory. It was impossible to leave the Nazis
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 29 August 2019 11: 29
              0
              Quote: Pedrodepackes
              I understand all this, but if it would be possible to defeat Germany or at least force peace without entering Berlin, I’m only for

              It was possible, but not so simple. There were circumstances in which it was necessary to free Europe.
  5. sergo1914
    sergo1914 29 August 2019 06: 32
    0
    Well then it was possible to visit. Tank wedges.
  6. Ravil_Asnafovich
    Ravil_Asnafovich 29 August 2019 06: 33
    +5
    Three ha, Psheks themselves started this war together with Germany during the partition of Czechoslovakia.
    1. anjey
      anjey 29 August 2019 07: 00
      +5
      The funny thing is, who supported and started this war, they will come, the Anglo-Saxons, French, Italians and Germans, and who really ended it (USSR), having defeated Nazifascism, for them the beginning of WWII is really not a holiday but grief and regret that Peace, for the sake of various geopolitical benefits, it constantly unleashes wars, not even stopping them ....
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 29 August 2019 07: 45
        0
        Quote: anjey
        The world, for the sake of various geopolitical benefits,

        War and capital are siblings, always go together hand in hand. The world is not for them.
        1. anjey
          anjey 29 August 2019 08: 15
          +1
          Yes, according to Marx, it is very correctly said that for the sake of superprofits, the capitalists will commit any crimes ...
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 29 August 2019 08: 22
      +3
      Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich
      Three ha, Psheks themselves started this war together with Germany during the partition of Czechoslovakia.

      You could say that, but their desires extended further.
      In December, the 1938 of the year in the report of the 2 of the (intelligence) department of the General Staff of the Polish Army in plain English indicated:
      "The dismemberment of Russia is at the heart of Polish politics in the East ... Therefore, our possible position will be reduced to the following formula: who will take part in the partition. Poland should not remain passive at this wonderful historical moment. The task is to prepare well in advance. physically and spiritually ... The main goal is to weaken and defeat Russia ("Z dziejow stosunkow polsko-radzieckich. Studia i materialy", T. III. Warszawa, 1968, S. 262, 287).

      26 January 1939 year. In a conversation with German Foreign Minister Joachim von Ribbentrop, Polish Foreign Minister Jozef Beck, held in Warsaw, states:
      "Poland claims Soviet Ukraine and access to the Black Sea
      Poland viewed Germany as an ally. "
      So we can say with the Russian proverb "Whose cow would bellow ...."
  7. Aliken
    Aliken 29 August 2019 06: 52
    0
    The man of Luke.
  8. Dikson
    Dikson 29 August 2019 07: 10
    +1
    Well, the Poles obviously have something to celebrate on this day ...
  9. Mihail55
    Mihail55 29 August 2019 07: 14
    +1
    Decent answer! More often it is necessary to respond with dignity to all pugs hoping for patrons. We must always be proud of our history!
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 29 August 2019 07: 29
      +3
      We must always be proud of our history!
      Yeah, is Trump hanging the Mausoleum, and Obama was hanging Mannerheim’s board?
  10. Rzzz
    Rzzz 29 August 2019 07: 15
    -1
    This grandfather directly embodies American imperialism, stubbornly seeks the destruction of several tens of millions of people.
    What is he so angry? Does his wife caress? Or, in childhood, did you revisit comics about the evil Russians (and the Chinese now)? They didn’t seem to have shot down him on a plane over Vietnam and did not keep him in a pit.
    It is time for him to meet with his like-minded people. McCain, Brzezinski ... who else ... Reagan, Truman and the like.
  11. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
    SERGEY SERGEEVICS 29 August 2019 07: 18
    +2
    Alexander Lukashenko refused to travel to Warsaw in solidarity with Vladimir Putin.

    Well done, worthy of them. And with this act, he also paid tribute and respect to the Soviet people, who opposed the 3rd Reich.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 29 August 2019 07: 39
      +3
      respect for the Soviet people,
      He always respected and respects the Soviet people, unlike those who lay wreaths on the Poles.
      1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
        SERGEY SERGEEVICS 29 August 2019 07: 44
        +1
        Quote: Gardamir
        respect for the Soviet people,
        He always respected and respects the Soviet people, unlike those who lay brooms on the Poles.

        So he still treats us with dignity, unlike those who knit brooms.
  12. 3vs
    3vs 29 August 2019 07: 18
    0
    "The Polish media, referring to the Belarusian diplomatic mission in Warsaw, reported on Alexander Lukashenko's refusal to travel to Poland to commemorate the 80th anniversary of the outbreak of World War II."

    It sounds as if they are inviting to a holiday! ...
    Or maybe for some people this is the most holiday to eat ?!
  13. Gardamir
    Gardamir 29 August 2019 07: 27
    +1
    And why the war is considered to be from September 1. Can postpone the date to other dates when the two allies of Germany and Poland torn Czechoslovakia?
  14. Ros 56
    Ros 56 29 August 2019 07: 40
    +2
    Who like, but in my opinion only a complete idiot can celebrate the beginning of the war, that is, the beginning of the killing of people.
    But Victory Day, this is really a holiday with tears in the eyes of the dead.
    1. Genak
      Genak 29 August 2019 09: 26
      +1
      Quote: Ros 56
      Who like, but in my opinion only a complete idiot can celebrate the beginning of the war, that is, the beginning of the killing of people.
      But Victory Day, this is really a holiday with tears in the eyes of the dead.

      Well, as it were, May 8 is the day of sorrow in the west, and our liberals are set up the same way, they turn everything upside down (.
  15. sgr291158
    sgr291158 29 August 2019 08: 44
    +2
    But they invited Germany to unleash this war.
  16. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 29 August 2019 09: 21
    +1
    Quote: Pedrodepackes
    controversial ... there was no "hot" stage, purely political showdown
    However, the only battle with German troops on the territory of the Czech Republic still occurred. On the evening of 14 on March 1939, the 2th battalion of the 84th infantry regiment of the 8th infantry division of the German army entered the city of Mistek. In the area of ​​the Chayankov barracks, where units of the 3th battalion of the 8th Silesian infantry regiment of the Czech army and half-troops of the 2th armored regiment were stationed, the Nazis stopped and demanded that the sentries surrender their weapons and call the duty officer. The Czech soldiers, who were guarding at the gates of the barracks, answered with shots. As a result of the battle, which lasted a little more than half an hour, 24 German troops were killed and wounded. The defenders of the barracks escaped with only a few (from 2 to 6) wounded soldiers.
  17. fruit_cake
    fruit_cake 29 August 2019 10: 23
    +1
    Hitler at the Pilsudski funeral, Poland the victim they say ...