In Poland, they said that Lukashenko refused to come to the 80 anniversary of the start of World War II

Polish media, citing the Belarusian diplomatic mission in Warsaw, reported on the refusal of Alexander Lukashenko to travel to Poland for commemorative events dedicated to the 80 anniversary of the outbreak of World War II. Recall that the Polish authorities did not invite Russian President Vladimir Putin to these events, saying that "such an invitation would be inappropriate in connection with the ongoing aggression against Ukraine."

In this regard, the Polish media write that Alexander Lukashenko refused to travel to Warsaw in solidarity with Vladimir Putin.
According to the latest data, Belarus at the mentioned events will be represented by the ambassador of the republic in Warsaw.

At the moment, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Belarus does not comment on issues related to which of the country's authorities will go to Poland.

On the website of the President of Belarus, meanwhile, information is posted about his meeting with representatives of the Turkish delegation, headed by Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu. The Turkish Minister arrived in Minsk after visiting the MAKS-2019 in the suburbs. Lukashenko and Chavushoglu discussed the possibility of additional increase in trade turnover, which last year reached almost 1 billion dollars. At the moment, the lion's share of trade between Minsk and Ankara is Belarus’s import of Turkish goods and services.

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[Mavrikiy]

In Poland, they said that Lukashenko refused to come to the 80 anniversary of the start of World War II

Thugs, is that a holiday? She didn’t perish, but it’s a pity that Germany would have been in its place. We would have a gas pipeline there, and from there Bavarian.

[210ox]

It can be noted on September 17. Liberation campaign in western Belarus. And not only there ..

[K-612-O]

Also down the pipe

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Thugs, is that a holiday?

Even from such a tragic day for everyone, politicians manage to make public relations for themselves (I’m talking about the Poles, if Che). In general, I don’t understand why September 1, 1939 is considered the beginning of World War II, July 7, 1937. Japan attacked China, the war It lasted until the end of World War II, both countries were its participants, the USSR and the USA helped China, also participants, Japan was in alliance with Germany and Italy and received technology from Germany, and from Italy airplanes. We should agree with China and mark this date in this case.

[Mavrikiy]

History is Eurocentric. Japan unleashed WWII.

[Major Yurik]

We were not invited on the day the war began, because we interfere with the start of the war with civilians!
Call the doctors! Polish logic is second only to Bandera in its schizoid component!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

why 1 of September 1939 was considered the beginning of World War II, 7 of July 1937, Japan attacked China, the war continued until the end of World War II

All peoples who took part in the Second World War have their own start date. Residents of the Soviet space will first of all remember 22 on June 1941, the Poles on September 1939, the French on 1940. For the Chinese, there is no such border: in fact, the entire first half of the 20th century was for the Celestial Empire a continuous series of wars that ended exactly 60 years ago with the declaration of the PRC.

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: tihonmarine

All peoples who took part in the Second World War have their own start date.

I do not argue, but nevertheless they installed it officially from 1.09.1939/XNUMX/XNUMX., which, according to some historians, is not entirely correct.

Quote: tihonmarine

... that ended exactly 60 years ago with the proclamation of the PRC.

Well, with the end of World War II, there, after all, a civil war was going on.

[tihonmarine]

[quote = Pedrodepacks] I do not argue, but still they installed it officially with 1.09.1939., which, according to some historians, is not entirely correct. [/ quote]
Of course, for England and France it was impossible to establish the beginning of the war in Europe by the occupation of Czechoslovakia because [quote] While the Western powers and Germany were discussing the future of the Sudetenland, Poland presented the ultimatum of Czechoslovakia on September 21 of September 1938. Warsaw demanded "return" Tieszyn region, in which a third of the population were ethnic Poles. On 30 of September 1938, when the Munich Agreement was signed, Poland sent Czechoslovakia a second ultimatum. On the same day, when parts of the Wehrmacht entered the Sudetenland, the Polish Army invaded the territory of the Tieszyn region of Czechoslovakia. England and France this time were forced to remain silent, allowing Hitler Germany to swallow Czechoslovakia. On 14 of March 1939 of the year, Hitler Germany brought its troops into the territory of the Czech Republic, which was now called the protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia. Quote] Here is the 14 of March of the 1939 of the year and should be considered the beginning of the Second World War II.

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: tihonmarine

Here is March 14, 1939 and should be considered the beginning of the Second World War.

controversial ... there was no "hot" stage, purely political showdown

[Vol4ara]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Pedrodepackes

why 1 of September 1939 was considered the beginning of World War II, 7 of July 1937, Japan attacked China, the war continued until the end of World War II

All peoples who took part in the Second World War have their own start date. Residents of the Soviet space will first of all remember 22 on June 1941, the Poles on September 1939, the French on 1940. For the Chinese, there is no such border: in fact, the entire first half of the 20th century was for the Celestial Empire a continuous series of wars that ended exactly 60 years ago with the declaration of the PRC.

Never for the USSR on June 22 was the beginning of the Second World War, on June 22 the beginning of the Great Patriotic War, as well as for the other countries you listed

[serg.shishkov2015]

You're right! the official start date of 2MB is already being questioned! Given the fact that Poland at that time was also an aggressor country! so representing Poland on September 1, 1939 an innocent victim .....

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: serg.shishkov2015

You're right! the official start date of 2MB is already being questioned!

Yes, it has long been questioned by learned historians, and I just support this point of view and do not pretend to the ultimate truth. But anyway, thanks for the support.

[serg.shishkov2015]

So to the WWII can be attributed to the war in Latin America, and the war in the colonies, the same Spain in Africa with its first use of tanks. In general, the 2-20s of the last century were very hectic, everyone fought! And all over the world!

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: serg.shishkov2015

So to the WWII can be attributed to the war in Latin America, and the war in the colonies

not quite so, because the unifying here may be not so much the presence of future participants as the unions formed by them and the goals of these unions, I think so.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Thugs, is that a holiday?

The article says "commemorative events", but here how to look, "day of sorrow" or "holiday". If you invite Merkel and their satellites on WWII, then a holiday.

[Mavrikiy]

Yes, the main thing is that we would not be there. And the Belarusians were invited to tear us away.

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Yes, the main thing is that we would not be there.

I'm wondering, will China be there?

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

Quote: Mavrikiy

Yes, the main thing is that we would not be there.

I'm wondering, will China be there?

Logically, no. China strongly believes that WWII began a little earlier. Although, objectively, the WWII had stages of development, from the local war on the Far East, from the local war on the European theater of war to a full-scale MV, and it’s difficult to pinpoint the start date of the WWII, it will be the local date. And where is Germany and Poland? Local showdowns. Rather, the declaration of war by England, France. So they started the war?

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Logically, no. China strongly believes that WWII began a little earlier.

not only China thinks so, but when politicians were guided by historical logic, they did. like women, their own logic))

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

Quote: Mavrikiy

Logically, no. China strongly believes that WWII began a little earlier.

not only China thinks so, but when politicians were guided by historical logic, they did. like women, their own logic))

this is so, and then such turbulences begin and stunning conclusions are made.

[rotmistr60]

Alexander Lukashenko refused a trip to Warsaw in solidarity with Vladimir Putin

Perhaps this is one of the reasons, but the main one is that A. Lukashenko (no matter how anyone refers to him) is also painful to watch how European countries distort the results of the 2nd MV, downplay, and sometimes exclude the role USSR in victory over fascist Germany. I think the act is worthy of respect. The ambassador will be present and represent the country.

[tihonmarine]

I'm also for. How can you stand together with those whose grandfathers and fathers, together with Hitler, fought against the USSR and against the same Poland. The grandfathers and fathers of whom served faithfully to Hitler in the Waffen SS, punitive battalions such as Roland and Nachtigall, killed our people. I am ashamed of Poland and other former Soviet republics.

[Egoza]

And he did the right thing! And not even "as a sign of solidarity with Putin." Lukashenko always had great respect for the Soviet army and veterans of the Great Patriotic War. And if they also begin to declare that Hitler and Stalin unleashed a war .... decent people have nothing to do at this "celebration".

[Valery Valery]

Lukashenka did not go to Poland due to the fact that the Polish nobles will once again call the USSR the culprit of World War II and all other "Polish sufferings".

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Valery Valery

Lukashenka did not go to Poland due to the fact that the Polish nobles will once again call the USSR the culprit of World War II and all other "Polish sufferings".

I have great respect for J.V. Stalin, but I cannot forgive him for the liberation of Poland and all of Western Europe. Well, I would have reached Brest and the border, stopped the troops, and said "Grandpa Schiklsngruber, now do what you want with this civilized Europe." And there would be no European Union now, but there would be a third reich.

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: tihonmarine

I really respect I.V. Stalin, but I can not forgive him the liberation of Poland

short-sighted ... Poland was not liberated for its liberation, it was necessary to finish off the Natsiks, and not go to Berlin bypassing Warsaw. Would do so then

Quote: tihonmarine

Grandfather Shiklsngruber

I would have accumulated strength, otherwise I would have sang with our allies and repeated the 41st, but do we need it? The mistake was in another, he gave too many "buns" to Poland in the form of territories and injections of funds into its economy at the expense of our plundered country. And these bastards (AKovtsy, I mean) even before the 47th our servicemen were killed.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

I would have accumulated strength, otherwise I would have sung with our allies and repeated 41, but do we need it?

Beaten once, the second time will not climb. But in Europe, he would put things in order.

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: tihonmarine

Beaten once, the second time will not climb.

but what about Hitler's attempts to conclude a separate peace in 1944, and Churchill's "Unthinkable" plan? No, the USSR was like a bone in the throat to everyone.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

short-sighted ... Poland was not liberated for its liberation, it was necessary to finish off the Natsiks,

And then what is visionary

A total of about 9 million Soviet soldiers participated in the liberation of 11 European countries. The irretrievable losses of the Red Army during the liberation of the states of Europe amounted to:

• in Poland - 600212 people;
• in Czechoslovakia - 139918 people;
• in Hungary - 140004 people;
• in Germany - 101961 people;
• in Romania - 68993 people;
• in Austria - 26006 people;
• in Yugoslavia - 7995 people;
• in Norway - 3436 people;
• in Bulgaria - 977 people;

In total, the irretrievable losses of the Red Army during the "liberation of Europe" amounted to about 1 million people

And these are our people, our fathers and grandfathers. "Human blood is not water" This must always be remembered.

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: tihonmarine

And these are our people, our fathers and grandfathers. "Human blood is not water" This must always be remembered.

I understand all this, but if it were possible to defeat Germany or at least force peace without entering Berlin, then I am for it. But there were no other ways, only through the countries you mentioned led the way to victory. It was impossible to leave the Nazis

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

I understand all this, but if it would be possible to defeat Germany or at least force peace without entering Berlin, I’m only for

It was possible, but not so simple. There were circumstances in which it was necessary to free Europe.

[sergo1914]

Well then it was possible to visit. Tank wedges.

[Ravil_Asnafovich]

Three ha, Psheks themselves started this war together with Germany during the partition of Czechoslovakia.

[anjey]

The funny thing is, who supported and started this war, they will come, the Anglo-Saxons, French, Italians and Germans, and who really ended it (USSR), having defeated Nazifascism, for them the beginning of WWII is really not a holiday but grief and regret that Peace, for the sake of various geopolitical benefits, it constantly unleashes wars, not even stopping them ....

[tihonmarine]

Quote: anjey

The world, for the sake of various geopolitical benefits,

War and capital are siblings, always go together hand in hand. The world is not for them.

[anjey]

Yes, according to Marx, it is very correctly said that for the sake of superprofits, the capitalists will commit any crimes ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich

Three ha, Psheks themselves started this war together with Germany during the partition of Czechoslovakia.

You could say that, but their desires extended further.
In December, the 1938 of the year in the report of the 2 of the (intelligence) department of the General Staff of the Polish Army in plain English indicated:

"The dismemberment of Russia is at the heart of Polish politics in the East ... Therefore, our possible position will be reduced to the following formula: who will take part in the partition. Poland should not remain passive at this wonderful historical moment. The task is to prepare well in advance. physically and spiritually ... The main goal is to weaken and defeat Russia ("Z dziejow stosunkow polsko-radzieckich. Studia i materialy", T. III. Warszawa, 1968, S. 262, 287).

26 January 1939 year. In a conversation with German Foreign Minister Joachim von Ribbentrop, Polish Foreign Minister Jozef Beck, held in Warsaw, states:

"Poland claims Soviet Ukraine and access to the Black Sea
Poland viewed Germany as an ally. "

So we can say with the Russian proverb "Whose cow would bellow ...."

[Aliken]

The man of Luke.

[Dikson]

Well, the Poles obviously have something to celebrate on this day ...

[Mihail55]

Decent answer! More often it is necessary to respond with dignity to all pugs hoping for patrons. We must always be proud of our history!

[Gardamir]

We must always be proud of our history!

Yeah, is Trump hanging the Mausoleum, and Obama was hanging Mannerheim’s board?

[Rzzz]

This grandfather directly embodies American imperialism, stubbornly seeks the destruction of several tens of millions of people.
What is he so angry? Does his wife caress? Or, in childhood, did you revisit comics about the evil Russians (and the Chinese now)? They didn’t seem to have shot down him on a plane over Vietnam and did not keep him in a pit.
It is time for him to meet with his like-minded people. McCain, Brzezinski ... who else ... Reagan, Truman and the like.

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Alexander Lukashenko refused to travel to Warsaw in solidarity with Vladimir Putin.

Well done, worthy of them. And with this act, he also paid tribute and respect to the Soviet people, who opposed the 3rd Reich.

[Gardamir]

respect for the Soviet people,

He always respected and respects the Soviet people, unlike those who lay wreaths on the Poles.

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Quote: Gardamir

respect for the Soviet people,

He always respected and respects the Soviet people, unlike those who lay brooms on the Poles.

So he still treats us with dignity, unlike those who knit brooms.

[3vs]

"The Polish media, referring to the Belarusian diplomatic mission in Warsaw, reported on Alexander Lukashenko's refusal to travel to Poland to commemorate the 80th anniversary of the outbreak of World War II."

It sounds as if they are inviting to a holiday! ...
Or maybe for some people this is the most holiday to eat ?!

[Gardamir]

And why the war is considered to be from September 1. Can postpone the date to other dates when the two allies of Germany and Poland torn Czechoslovakia?

[Ros 56]

Who like, but in my opinion only a complete idiot can celebrate the beginning of the war, that is, the beginning of the killing of people.
But Victory Day, this is really a holiday with tears in the eyes of the dead.

[Genak]

Quote: Ros 56

Who like, but in my opinion only a complete idiot can celebrate the beginning of the war, that is, the beginning of the killing of people.
But Victory Day, this is really a holiday with tears in the eyes of the dead.

Well, as it were, May 8 is the day of sorrow in the west, and our liberals are set up the same way, they turn everything upside down (.

[sgr291158]

But they invited Germany to unleash this war.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

controversial ... there was no "hot" stage, purely political showdown

However, the only battle with German troops on the territory of the Czech Republic still occurred. On the evening of 14 on March 1939, the 2th battalion of the 84th infantry regiment of the 8th infantry division of the German army entered the city of Mistek. In the area of ​​the Chayankov barracks, where units of the 3th battalion of the 8th Silesian infantry regiment of the Czech army and half-troops of the 2th armored regiment were stationed, the Nazis stopped and demanded that the sentries surrender their weapons and call the duty officer. The Czech soldiers, who were guarding at the gates of the barracks, answered with shots. As a result of the battle, which lasted a little more than half an hour, 24 German troops were killed and wounded. The defenders of the barracks escaped with only a few (from 2 to 6) wounded soldiers.

[fruit_cake]

Hitler at the Pilsudski funeral, Poland the victim they say ...