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Ukraine presents new data on losses near Ilovaisk

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The next version of the data on losses near Ilovaisk in 2014 was published in the Ukrainian information segment. With such a publication, “BBC Ukraine” came out, voicing the data with reference to the General Staff of the Armed Forces.




According to these data, in the Ilovaysky boiler, 220 of Ukrainian security forces from various units of the armed forces were killed, 40 are reported as missing. 44 people were injured and 13 were captured by the forces of LDNR.

At the same time, it is emphasized that these data do not include losses among the so-called “Dobrobats” - nationalist armed groups.

Recall that earlier the then commander of the Donbass national battalion and the leaders of other extremist groups banned in the Russian Federation, Semen Semenchenko, said that near Ilovaisk, the total losses of Ukraine amounted to about 2 thousand people. Until now, there is no exact data from officials on the total number of losses near Ilovaisk in August 2014.

At the same time, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine claims that the Ukrainian forces fired at the enemy through the humanitarian corridor by the enemy forces. Recall that the LDNR militia organized such a corridor for the Ukrainian security forces to leave the boiler.

On the losses among the soldiers of the militia of the Donetsk People’s Republic during the operation near Ilovaisk, exact data are not announced.

Recall that earlier in Ukraine the concept of "Ilovaysky boiler" was ignored. Along with the arrival of the Armed Forces and the National Bats in the Debaltsevsky Cauldron, the failure near Ilovaisk was called "a springboard with a retreat to previously prepared positions." Far from everyone could retreat to these “prepared positions”, or, as Mr. Klitschko says, “not only everything”.
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  1. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 28 August 2019 05: 57
    +17
    Poor pan nation. Each article is a reason for laughter and humiliation.
    Got game, jumped. Share!
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 28 August 2019 06: 01
      +13
      Each article is a reason for laughter and humiliation.


      They themselves give an occasion ... they didn’t think of singing an anthem in civilian planes ... Thank God they have not started jumping there yet.
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 28 August 2019 06: 09
        +12
        Yeah .. the anthem on the plane is something! :-)
        And if the passenger went to the toilet, at that very moment? .. Does he also sing the hymn of ukriya? ..
        ... From the toilet in the tail of the liner, one could hear (between farting): "" Ukraine has not died yet ,, :-)
        How patriotic it is, dear Ukrainians! :-) :-) :-)
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 28 August 2019 07: 47
          +4
          Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
          And if the passenger went to the toilet, at that very moment? .. Should he also sing the hymn of ukriya?

          And there is the place for this washing
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 28 August 2019 08: 35
          +1
          Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
          How patriotic it is, dear Ukrainians! :-) :-) :-)

          said the co-pilot and pressed the toilet pedal.
      2. den3080
        den3080 28 August 2019 06: 15
        +15
        You do not understand. Ilovaisk and Debaltseve are large strategic peer-mogues in which two armored-test divisions of underwater Buryat militiamen, the entire Pskov-Murmansk airborne division and the regiment of the Kantemirov-Mozdok tank division, which consisted exclusively of T-14 Armat tanks, were destroyed.
        hundreds of contemporary Chronicler Nestors work daily and nightly to describe the history of these glorious paramogs in every way.
        And here you are trying to joke. Oh no no no.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 28 August 2019 07: 58
          +6
          Quote: den3080
          in which two armored hoofed divisions of underwater Buryat militiamen were destroyed, the entire Pskov-Murmansk airborne division and the regiment of the Kantemirov-Mozdok tank division, which consisted exclusively of T-14 Armat tanks.

          1. akunin
            akunin 28 August 2019 09: 12
            +1
            Ramzan should give a reference to the post Gerashchenko about
            thousands of quick-eyed racians with a Chechen accent
            and then he will be glad of that
            how nice to be Ukrainian
            laughing
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 28 August 2019 09: 14
              0
              Quote: akunin
              Ramzan should give a reference to the post Gerashchenko about

              Yeah I do not mind wink
      3. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 28 August 2019 06: 16
        +3
        Yes Yes!
        Quote: The same Lech
        Each article is a reason for laughter and humiliation.

        They themselves give an occasion ... they didn’t think of singing an anthem in civilian planes ... Thank God they have not started jumping there yet.
        And I remembered how, probably, at the end of the last century Verka Serdyuchka, along with someone from Ukraine, on TV, ate bacon with chocolate and said that bacon is the symbol of Ukraine, and chocolate is the symbol of Europe, here they are together. Something became so disgusting ---- presented such a flavor combination ..... But I wonder how is Verka Serdyuchka now? What with her?
        1. Retvizan 8
          Retvizan 8 28 August 2019 06: 28
          +8
          ... "How is Verka-Serduchka there now?" ...
          Why is it there?
          Here "dear" entertains the Russian public.))
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 28 August 2019 06: 38
            +1
            Quote: Retvizan 8
            ... "How is Verka-Serduchka there now?" ... Why is there? Here "dear" entertains the Russian public.))
            After that long-time transmission, it did not happen to see what I did not regret about.
        2. 30143
          30143 28 August 2019 06: 34
          -4
          Okay, apparently. And then, are you bored?
      4. monah
        monah 28 August 2019 06: 25
        +3
        Do not distort, the anthem of the flight attendants and pilots, practiced their salaries!
    2. Ravil_Asnafovich
      Ravil_Asnafovich 28 August 2019 06: 30
      -1
      Got game, jumped. I agree, it doesn’t work.
    3. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 28 August 2019 07: 11
      0
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      Poor pan nation. Each article is a reason for laughter and humiliation.
      Got game, jumped. Share!

      Well, why, it will take another 5 years and on the square, in Kiev, a monument "the capture of Ilovaisk by the Armed Forces of Ukraine" may be erected, if, of course, in 2005, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will still be.
    4. Berber
      Berber 28 August 2019 08: 42
      +3
      There is a line in "The Inspector General" - "Who are you laughing at? - You are laughing at yourself."
      I mean, there is no reason to laugh. It is sad. We have enough horses, including the "VO". Russians are killing Russians - that's a bad laugh.
      1. kotvov
        kotvov 28 August 2019 13: 05
        0
        Russians kill Russians - this is a bad reason to laugh. ,,
        Russians who became Bandera, are no longer Russians. Yesterday, such a “Russian” showed-he carries a yellow-black one and promises to hoist him in Donetsk.
        1. Berber
          Berber 28 August 2019 16: 40
          0
          There are a lot of such moments in history. For example, the army of General Vlasov during the Second World War. This is a very controversial issue. I don’t want to go into it. Fact that Russians (albeit Bandera) kill Russian, says that they defeated us (I hope local). You just need to understand where the true enemy is.
  2. Andrey Chistyakov
    Andrey Chistyakov 28 August 2019 06: 07
    +1
    They "can be trusted" ... If "the Black Sea was dug up and Dunkirk was taken" ....
    1. monah
      monah 28 August 2019 06: 27
      +4
      Zee laughed with Dunkirk, but with the sea, who will check?
      1. akunin
        akunin 28 August 2019 09: 15
        +1
        Quote: monah
        Well, with the sea, who will check?

        archaeologists will find a Ukrainian shovel of a dinosaur.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 28 August 2019 09: 21
          0
          Quote: akunin
          archaeologists will find a Ukrainian shovel of a dinosaur.

          1. akunin
            akunin 28 August 2019 09: 24
            +1
            archaeologists work laughing
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 28 August 2019 09: 26
              -1
              Quote: akunin
              archaeologists work

              For the money you can lol
              1. akunin
                akunin 28 August 2019 09: 46
                +1
                Quote: Lipchanin
                For the money you can

                the sums are not voiced, but it can be assumed approximately: to hell and to such a mother.
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 28 August 2019 09: 49
                  -1
                  Quote: akunin
                  to hell and to such a mother.

                  Well enough for bread and butter laughing
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 28 August 2019 06: 12
    +3
    Did they lose a battalion near Ilovaisk? Well, well ... I’m not bloodthirsty, but I don’t believe in the size of such losses with such a Wrecking ...
  4. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
    SERGEY SERGEEVICS 28 August 2019 06: 22
    -1
    220 Ukrainian security officers perished in the Ilovaysky boiler.

    Campaign business, they reduced the number a little, there were many times more losses.
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 28 August 2019 07: 27
      +3
      Well, they write that 220 died, 40 disappeared, 15 were taken prisoner, these are military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but as far as I remember, Ilovaysk’s people mostly went to the boiler, and their losses were not calculated. Look in the article it is written about 2000 voiced by Semenchenko.
      1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
        SERGEY SERGEEVICS 28 August 2019 07: 44
        -1
        and their losses are not calculated.

        About the fact that their losses at times were more than 220.
  5. 30143
    30143 28 August 2019 06: 30
    -15
    I see you are already rushing from the fact that Russians are killing each other from both sides. When it comes to you that the Ukrainians are afraid of the bureaucratic army of the Russian Federation! More precisely - permissiveness. Therefore, they do not want to "stand next to". Yes, and rams, like fools, are stored on both sides, who are ready to go to the songs, to slaughter. Everything is like Schweik's.
    In the same way as in the Russian Federation, where a generation grew up that, apart from GDP, saw no one else, so in / in Ukraine a generation grew up that grew up in national minds.
    However, in the face of civil conflict.
    Here's how to curb the bureaucrats' appetites from power, this organized crime group - the question?
    1. Andrey Chistyakov
      Andrey Chistyakov 28 August 2019 06: 33
      +9
      Quote: 30143
      I see you are already rushing from the fact that Russians are killing each other from both sides. When it comes to you that the Ukrainians are afraid of the bureaucratic army of the Russian Federation! More precisely - permissiveness. Therefore, they do not want to "stand next to". Yes, and rams, like fools, are stored on both sides, who are ready to go to the songs, to slaughter. Everything is like Schweik's.
      In the same way as in the Russian Federation, where a generation grew up that, apart from GDP, saw no one else, so in / in Ukraine a generation grew up that grew up in national minds.
      However, in the face of civil conflict.
      Here's how to curb the bureaucrats' appetites from power, this organized crime group - the question?

      Perhaps that is why they shouted "Moskalyaku on Gilyaka" in 2014 ?! Huh?
      1. maksbazhin
        maksbazhin 28 August 2019 08: 51
        -2
        Not everyone was screaming. And not all of those who died at that time understood where they were, and they were shot point blank by artillery. They write about the civil war ...
        1. Grits
          Grits 28 August 2019 09: 04
          +3
          Quote: maksbazhin
          and they were shot point blank artillery.

          I think if the opposite side had such an opportunity, they would not have thought much.
  6. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 28 August 2019 06: 34
    +5
    That's a nation of liars.
    From any defeat I’m trying to cook myself.
    Each interview gives stories about their heroes, only in fact the DPR and LPR stand their ground and Crimea returned to Russia.
    1. 30143
      30143 28 August 2019 06: 37
      -3
      Is it possible to not talk about them at all?
      Sick.
      Or is it such a way to escape from your problems?
      There used to be vodka for this ... but now the Ukrainians
      1. Retvizan 8
        Retvizan 8 28 August 2019 07: 02
        +6
        ... "Is it possible not to talk about them at all?" ...
        Do you really think that the topic of Ukraine on the site is raised only in order to distract people from the problems inside Russia?
        Is it okay that the policy of the neighboring country is hostile?
        Joining NATO is not their end in themselves? And the statements of the people in power that they dream of making rockets reaching our capital or parading along Red Square or raising their flag in Vladivostok and so on are propaganda fiction?
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 28 August 2019 07: 42
          +1
          Quote: Retvizan 8
          Joining NATO bloc is not their end in itself?

          No, it's not. It's all blah blah blah for our hawks. Everyone understands perfectly well that Ukraine will not be admitted to NATO. So what is the typical "A talk?"
          1. Retvizan 8
            Retvizan 8 28 August 2019 07: 47
            +3
            Well, well, isn’t there a deployment of Western military infrastructure?
            Maritime center in Ochakovo?
            Or am I confusing something?
            1. Egoza
              Egoza 28 August 2019 08: 18
              0
              Quote: Retvizan 8
              Is there no placement of Western military infrastructure?
              Maritime center in Ochakovo?

              I do not know. But even if there is, it is not a guarantee that NATO will stand up for Ukraine "if something happens."
          2. Grits
            Grits 28 August 2019 09: 07
            0
            Quote: Egoza
            Everyone understands that Ukraine will not be taken into NATO.

            Why take it officially? It is essentially already in NATO. And what prevents Americans from placing their infrastructure in Ukraine? Just don’t tell me about any legal prohibitions from NATO partners and other treaties.
          3. Ka-52
            Ka-52 28 August 2019 09: 13
            +2
            Fidget (Elena)
            No, it's not. It's all blah blah blah for our hawks. Everyone understands perfectly well that Ukraine will not be accepted into NATO. So what is the typical "A talk?

            is very, do not lie. This was stated constantly by both Poroshenko and the deputies of the Rada. This year’s ferale adopted at the legislative level Ukraine’s desire for North Atlantic integration. After the adoption of the law, Poroshenko himself said
            After the amendments enter into force, the Rada and the Cabinet of Ministers will have to act on the basis of a fixed course towards integration with the EU and NATO.

            and you’re still talking about the fact that this is Russian propaganda or disinformation from Ukraine towards Russia
    2. 30143
      30143 28 August 2019 06: 41
      -12
      Crimea returned to Russia you know how. It was a fee, so as not to interfere in the coup. And what kind of brotherly people? One commerce ... After all, then in 2017, with the extension of the status of the Black Sea Fleet, there would be a full-scale war!
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 28 August 2019 07: 46
        +3
        30143, by the way about the Crimea ..
        If you again want to give NATO some area, call.
        We will always be happy .. especially in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation .. :-)
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 28 August 2019 06: 41
    +3
    called "foothold with departure to pre-prepared positions».
    Departure according to the Combat Charter of the Ground Forces (BUSV) is a form of hostilities, and getting into a boiler is a pure defeat. Therefore, of course, they are preferable to call their defeat a departure. But apparently over the past five years, the memory of Ukrainian generals and colonels has completely shut down and switched to revenge. Extra confirmation that the enemy should not be spared, but must be finished so that in the future he does not have the desire to try again.
    1. 30143
      30143 28 August 2019 06: 43
      -2
      Time is the best medicine ... Amnesia, sclerosis is coming ...
      Have you seen the Ukrainian charter? Is it probably rewritten?
      1. monah
        monah 28 August 2019 06: 51
        +3
        And what is the charter? While he was rewritten from Soviet, though with typical childhood mistakes!
        1. 30143
          30143 28 August 2019 06: 53
          -6
          And you can, as they say, in the studio. I would like to analyze. At least a fragment in comparison. It is possible in the form of a table, on the left, as it was, on the right, a new edition.
          1. sgapich
            sgapich 28 August 2019 09: 40
            +1
            https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wskfJIQwNnpvNdI8J1MWLm4TwsAMp4i9/view - украинский современный
            http://militera.lib.ru/regulations/russr/1982_bu-sv-2/index.html - СССР, 1982 г.
            Study, compare.
    2. monah
      monah 28 August 2019 06: 53
      0
      Well, the Germans finished off so what? Others try, only in a different way it turns out!
      1. Andrey Chistyakov
        Andrey Chistyakov 28 August 2019 06: 58
        0
        Quote: monah
        Well, the Germans finished off so what? Others try, only in a different way it turns out!

        There have been no world wars since. As you know, 2 world wars were initiated by the Germans. But nothing, of course.
    3. Egoza
      Egoza 28 August 2019 07: 38
      +3
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Therefore, of course, they are preferable to call their defeat a departure.

      Well ... suddenly the trial will be over the military, who carried out criminal commands. And so - "there was a retreat, the losses are small", you see, the term will be less.
  8. 30143
    30143 28 August 2019 07: 22
    -1
    [quote = Retvizan 8] ... "Is it possible not to talk about them at all?" ...
    Do you really think that the topic of Ukraine on the site is raised only in order to distract people from the problems within Russia? ...

    What is happening in Ukraine can be watched on TV and calculated in percentage terms how much time is allocated for the Russian Federation. And having looked 1st and Russia you think that you live in Ukraine, and experts who do not live in Ukraine. There, more or less Karasev is still, really, a Ukrainian. And all the other clowns are boys for the beatie.

    Time to work.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 28 August 2019 07: 40
      +4
      Quote: 30143
      And all the other clowns are boys for the beatie.

      But the salary is good. They won't earn that much in Nenka. And it's not a shame, we have a president from their brothers, so it's even prestigious.
    2. Arhats
      Arhats 28 August 2019 07: 46
      +1
      You don't look. For example, about three years ago I found out who Kiselev was from my friend, I had to find his program on the Internet and watch it, or it even became dumb, everyone around is shouting about "Kiselev's propaganda", but I don't know alone.
  9. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 28 August 2019 08: 48
    +1
    All of them are justified. And the losses to VSU and the Nazis were monstrous, and not only in Ilovaysk and Debal.
    1. Grits
      Grits 28 August 2019 09: 09
      +2
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      And the casualties of VSU and the Nazis were monstrous, and not only in Ilovaisk and Debal.

      Somehow everyone forgets about the first boiler - Izvarinsky
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 28 August 2019 09: 17
        +1
        That is, in the Southern Cauldron grind thousands of Ukrainian soldiers.
  10. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 28 August 2019 08: 53
    +2
    Recall that earlier the then commander of the Donbass national battalion and the leaders of other extremist groups banned in the Russian Federation, Semen Semenchenko, said that near Ilovaisk, the total losses of Ukraine amounted to about 2 thousand people.
    If you name these figures officially, the people will go berserk and blow the generals and ministers to shreds. Dividing by 10 it turns out 200 is already tolerable, but the number is round, they will not understand, adding 20 to the total of 220, a very real figure. Well, adding that the "heroes" perished under 50 times superior Russian airborne divisions. We held a memorial service and everything turned out beautifully, but patriotic.
  11. evgen1221
    evgen1221 28 August 2019 09: 20
    +3
    Hmm, why did you need to organize the corridors for the exit of the dives. They captured and built that dill constantly destroys, and in general do not care how many of them die under their own shelling, tea did not go to the Donbass with a loaf. Oh yes, politics, and who helped a lot? They doubtless Donbas in doubt.