Published video of the shooting of the world's most powerful mortar

A video appeared showing the shooting of the world's most powerful mortar. The frames were posted by the Zvezda television channel.

The 240-millimeter gun of Russian production 2X4 "Tulip" is currently the most powerful mortar in the world. A video was published on the network demonstrating firing from it at targets located at a distance from 8 to 40 km.

It is noted that live firing was carried out by artillerymen of the Western Military District: exercises were held in the Tambov region. The fighters managed to hit an order of 150 targets. The video was published by the TV channel "Star».

In September of the 2018 of the year, Uraltransmash, the lead developer of the Tulips, published a message stating that these self-propelled artillery mortars, armed with Russian aircraft, will undergo a modernization cycle before the 2020 of the year.

At the moment, it is not known which version of the mortar is captured on the video. It is known that in the course of modernization, Tulips should receive new radio stations and external communications equipment, advanced surveillance devices, and additional weapons. In addition, the updated mortar will grow with an anti-nuclear defense instrument complex.

When firing for guidance on a target, the unmanned aileron complex was used.

Operation of the Soviet 240-millimeter self-propelled mortar "Tulip" 2С4 began in the 1972 year. It was created to destroy fortified buildings, as well as fortifications, large concentrations of enemy manpower and armored vehicles. The first combat use of the Tulip was recorded in Afghanistan.

Comments

[Hagalaz]

I would also like to see the defeat of targets. Explosions. Unless you throw the blanks.

[Aerodrome]

the updated mortar will grow with the instrumentation complex of atomic protection.

and what will help? for me so garbage ...

[Simargl]

Quote: Aerodrome

and what will help?

From a direct hit - no.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Aerodrome

,will help ?

Hmm, this is not even the main point, although it all depends on what exactly is meant by the definition of "protection". Thus, by means of simple conclusions, it is logical to come to the conclusion that the main reason for the return of the Tulips was precisely their ability to "grow mushrooms by sowing cucumbers" (almost like Tsoi's). With "Peonies" - "Malkas" the same theme - not just heavy artillery, but quite a means of delivering TNW with a high probability of use.

[Archivist Vasya]

I agree, but they write

The fighters managed to hit an order of xnumx goals

... how many? If 150 out of 160 is excellent, and if 150 out of 500 then ... hmm.

[Civil]

Quote: Hagalaz

I would also like to see the defeat of targets. Explosions. Unless you throw the blanks.

Even if the disc is also very interesting)

[Alex777]

A video was published on the network demonstrating firing from it at targets located at a distance of 8 to 40 km.

It seems to me that this mortar will not shoot beyond 20 km.
Otherwise, it will be abruptly many guns ...

[Alex777]

Apparently all the backing trackers believe NTV.
This is a mortar. Not even a howitzer. 20 km - active-reactive.

[Vanek]

Quote: Hagalaz

Unless the blanks

The novel, two hundred and forty millimeters, even a blank, has decent kinetic energy. I do not think that any dugout / bunker (we will not talk about caponiers, citadels. Okay) will "take out" a dozen direct hits. Even a blank.

I think there.

[Thrall]

Combat use of M-240 in Afghanistan:
https://www.yaplakal.com/forum2/topic1694639.html

And on VO the article was about "Tulip":
https://topwar.ru/141620-minomety-samohodnyy-minomet-2s4-tyulpan-samyy-samyy.html

[Alexey G]

Powerful !!! The smile of the firing soldiers suggests that they themselves like the process of firing from such a supermarty !!

[aszzz888]

Published video of the shooting of the world's most powerful mortar

It is scary, however, if a mine weighing four bags of cement flies at you from above, of which only BB is 60 kg.

[Cat man null]

Quote: aszzz888

It’s scary, however, if a mine weighing four bags of cement flies down on top of you

Quote: Oleg Divov, Weapon of Retribution

... One former sniper, having learned that I served in the mounted shooting unit, gritted his teeth and confessed: "I hate mortars!" It turned out that he was once covered with 82-mm battalions. The poor fellow piled into his pants with longing and hopelessness. When I explained that our mortar had a barrel five meters long, and there were thirty-two kilos of explosive in the mine, the sniper shrugged his shoulders and said: “Well, this is no longer scary, I guess. It's already ... Anyway” ...

 Here

http://artofwar.ru/d/divov/samohodka.shtml

I recommend reading it, and the author is interesting, and he served on the Tulip.

[aszzz888]

Cat Man Null (Novel) Today, 11: 38
I recommend reading it, and the author is interesting, and he served on the Tulip.

THX. There will be time to see.

[Fitter]

Yeah, he had:
"- Got it ?,
- Got it!
- Where did you go?
- I got to Tula! "
Just about "Tulip" :)

[h-cb400sf]

Started reading

[AU Ivanov.]

The most powerful, nevertheless, was the self-propelled mortar system "Oka" with a caliber of 420 mm and a projectile weight of 670 kg. This is already 13 bags of cement equipped with special warheads of several kilotons. There, be afraid, do not be afraid ..

[aszzz888]

AS Ivanov. (Andrey) Today, 11:54 NOVO, the most powerful, after all, was the self-propelled mortar system "Oka" with a caliber of 420 mm and a projectile weight of 670 kg. ...

It was a deal. But we are discussing the article.

[Nikolaevich I]

"Oka" was not produced and was not in service .... this is a "scarecrow"!

[Romario_Argo]

and also specific mines go to the 2S4 "Tulip" mortar
Nuclear 3B4, its jet variant 3Б11, with a range of 18 km.

"Saida" - with napalm burning area of ​​7850 sq. m.
"Nerpa" - cassette with 3OF16 elements.
Neutron shells "Resin" and "Fata"
corrected mine 3VF "Daredevil"
active-reactive mine 3Ф2, weight 228 kg., range 19 km.

[aszzz888]

Romario_Argo (Roman) Today, 12: 22 NEW

Detailed infa is always interesting.

[Alexey G]

I just want to say: "Thunder out of victory! Glorious Ross have fun!"

[Nycomed]

And the "high-power brigades" were, in my opinion, already disbanded in the early 90s.

[CommanderDIVA]

This team is based in one of the regions of the Central Federal District of the Russian Federation.

[Qiman Kyrivo]

In the Great Patriotic War would use such power!

[Piramidon]

Quote: Qiman Kyrivo

In the Great Patriotic War would use such power!

But what if in the battle of Borodino or in the Battle of Kulikovo?

[bubalik]

The fighters managed to hit an order of xnumx goals

,,, and how much is the price of one shot?

[ccsr]

Quote: bubalik

,,, and how much is the price of one shot?

Surely cheaper than with any gun of this caliber.
Mortars are artillery for the poor, so having such a mortar with a range of up to 40 km, in my opinion, is more profitable than making a gun of this caliber.

[Simargl]

Quote: ccsr

throw such a mortar, with a range of up to 40 km

The pipe will be about 15 meters. This is not a trivial technological product.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Simargl

The pipe will be about 15 meters.

It is not so much the pipe as the ammunition. For firing at such ranges, they will be expensive by default.

[Simargl]

Quote: Spade

It is not so much the pipe as the ammunition. For firing at such ranges, they will be expensive by default.

Expensive will be active-reactive and / or adjustable. But the pipe will have to be made more technological.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Simargl

Expensive will be active-reactive and / or adjustable.

Any.
For example, normal cast iron for mortar mines will no longer be applicable.

[Simargl]

Quote: Spade

For example, normal cast iron for mortar mines will no longer be applicable.

What a fright ?!
The material of the projectile depends on the acceleration (in addition to the destination), and the acceleration depends on the pressure in the barrel. Pressure can not be changed relative to the current one using slower gunpowder and a long barrel.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Simargl

What a fright ?!

Loads.

Quote: Simargl

Pressure can not be changed relative to the current one using slower gunpowder and a long barrel.

No, it won't work at long ranges.
The same mortar.

[Simargl]

Quote: Spade

Loads.

What, besides the pressure in the trunk? The rest are much smaller.

Quote: Spade

No, it won't work at long ranges.
The same mortar.

It’s necessary to say such amers: they’ll lengthen their howitzers by a couple of meters to shoot at 70 km instead of 40.
A Tulip’s trunk can be lengthened up to 50 calibers and satellites can be launched (this is a joke with a fraction of a joke).

[Lopatov]

Quote: Simargl

What, besides the pressure in the trunk?

Acceleration

Quote: Simargl

It’s necessary to say such amers: they’ll lengthen their howitzers by a couple of meters to shoot at 70 km instead of 40.

Exactly. But they are not trying to degrade the characteristics of gunpowder. Rather, the opposite.

[Simargl]

Quote: Spade

Acceleration

Write down: F = m * a >> a = F / m, here F is the pressure on the projectile, m is its mass. Simplified, no parasitic resistance.

Quote: Spade

But they are not trying to degrade the characteristics of gunpowder.

Sorry, WHAT?! Where did I say that ?!
Even for smooth-bore hunting weapons, gunpowders of various purposes are produced (the mass of the shell, mainly). The range is approximately up to 24 g, 24-38 g, and from 38 g.
If you equip the cartridge with gunpowder for a small hitch a large hitch - the pressure in the barrel will be exceeded, if on the contrary - the gunpowder simply will not burn out.
The meaning of the different burning speeds of gunpowder is the most uniform pressure in the barrel when firing.

[ccsr]

Quote: Simargl

This is not a trivial technological product.

This is undeniable. But a gun of this caliber will cost much more, and not only at the cost of manufacture, but also at the cost of shells.

[Sergei 777]

Mortars are artillery for the poor,

You're not right. Each weapon has its own niche in battle, its own task. And it's not about the cost of the systems. Mortar is the defeat of the enemy at small and sometimes medium distances. Or if the enemy is 300-400m away from you, you will not shoot 152 or 201 caliber.

[Simargl]

Quote: Sergey 777

Or if the enemy is 300-400m away from you, you will not shoot 152 or 201 caliber.

240mm will also be problematic to use.

[Sergei 777]

The regiments of 240mm mortars were part of the artillery divisions of district subordination and had to work in the interests of the front. And the usual mortars is the level of the battalion.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Sergey 777

The regiments of 240mm mortars were part of the artillery divisions of district subordination and had to work in the interests of the front. And the usual mortars is the level of the battalion.

In fact, mortars have been everywhere. From company level to RGVK. If we take the war, then the company caliber of 50 mm, battalion 82 mm, regimental 120, divisional 160

[Simargl]

Quote: Spade

If we take the war, then the company caliber of 50 mm, battalion 82 mm, regimental 120, divisional 160

A 240mm?

[Lopatov]

Quote: Simargl

A 240mm?

was adopted in the 50th

[ccsr]

Quote: Sergey 777

Regiments of 240mm mortars were part of the artillery divisions of district subordination

Everything is correct - it is for them that such weapons are being created, and not for the divisional level.

[ccsr]

Quote: Sergey 777

And it's not about the cost of the systems.

No, it is the cost of systems, referred to efficiency, that determines whether new systems will be adopted for service - this is the law of military affairs.

Quote: Sergey 777

Or if the enemy is 300-400m away from you, you will not shoot 152 or 201 caliber.

For these distances, conventional grenade launchers or recoilless guns can be used - cheaply and cheerfully.

[Sergei 777]

And how will you smoke enemy soldiers from the trenches with a grenade launcher, huh? Another thing is a mortar with its hinged trajectory.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Sergey 777

Another thing is a mortar with its hinged trajectory.

An automatic grenade launcher can also shoot along a hinged path.

[ccsr]

Quote: Sergey 777

And how will you smoke enemy soldiers from the trenches with a grenade launcher, huh?

Forget about the Great Patriotic War - the Russian army will no longer have large-scale battles by forces of the fronts and armies, and the front line as such will not be. Therefore, your hypothetical assumption does not describe the realities even in Syria, where VKS are mainly involved.

[bubalik]

,,, the name "slow motion", what did I see or I did not understand where? Yesterday’s report of Roman was more interesting.

[bubalik]

,,, and do new ammunition or from Soviet times?

[_Ugene_]

Soviet, judging by how bags with additional powder charges are attached to them

[Ural-4320]

I agree - I did not track the departure of the mines.

[Thrifty]

Given the availability of special ammunition in the assortment, this Tulip is the same Red Flower that will be feared for many years to come.

[Archivist Vasya]

Comrade gunners, who will enlighten - what kind of white bags are tied to a mine at the beginning of the video, what is in them and why?)

[AU Ivanov.]

Additional powder charges.

[Antares]

240 mm Russian-made weapon 2C4 "Tulip"

The operation of the Soviet 240-mm self-propelled mortar "Tulip" 2S4 began in 1972

Years of production from 1969 to 1988

it was not produced in the Russian Federation. What then is Russian production?
Soviet. (As usual, Russians like to speak Ukrainians)
By the way, there was the best article on the photo of this weapon
https://topwar.ru/141620-minomety-samohodnyy-minomet-2s4-tyulpan-samyy-samyy.html
the authors in pursuit of hot news for some reason assigned him "the most powerful in the world"

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Antares

the authors in pursuit of hot news for some reason assigned him "the most powerful in the world"

Finnish 300-mm mortar 300 Krh / 42 (Sample 1942)

Some performance characteristics:
barrel length - 5,12 m
HV angle - up to 70 degrees
GN angle - up to 360 degrees (with support VTT +/- 35 degrees)
firing range - from 2 to 7,5 km
The weight of the mines used in the tests was 170-175 kg. During the explosion, they left funnels up to 2 meters deep and 7 meters in diameter in the ground.

[bubalik]

funnels up to 2 meters deep and 7 meters in diameter were left in the ground.

[aszzz888]

Antares (Antares) Today, 12: 29

The Russian Federation is the legal successor of the USSR.

[Nevsky_ZU]

Quote: Antares

it was not produced in the Russian Federation. What then is Russian production?
Soviet. (As usual, Russians like to speak Ukrainians)

Antares RF, this is the successor of the USSR. Both legally: paying off USSR debts, and morally, devotion to traditions: 9 May Victory Day and even 23 February. Monuments in droves and in the rank of state policy are not demolished. We maintain the principle of territorial structure on a national basis from the time of the USSR: autonomous republics, territories, etc., and all with a guarantee of local languages. Moreover, even Tatarstan went to a meeting, and agreed to create a local Presidential Institute.
Ukraine, deposed itself of everything connected with the Ukrainian SSR, not to mention the USSR.
Respected Antares, this is one of the few maidanuty in Ukraine, which had brains. Do you sometimes read your idols and the fathers of the founders of New Ukraine after the 2014 year:

Even the article was on the Military Review about this:Rethink the ussr

Just Tymchuk and Co. were the first to realize that they needed to look for the foundation of their future existence, and found it ... in the Ukrainian SSR. Is it a coincidence? I think no. It’s just that Ukraine had all the most heroic and great things in the days of the Ukrainian SSR, and during Banderstadt ... “RUIN”. By the way, in the article there is not a single mention of this history error, which is also perplexing.

I am sure that many, after reading the note, raised an eyebrow in disbelief. How so? Tymchuk wrote that it was not Bandera with Shukhevych, and not the UPR with Grushevsky, and not even Vyacheslav Chernovol with the ROC that should become the foundation of the future Ukraine, but the “damned” Verkhovna Zrad and at the same time decoration of the USSR - the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic.

True, Tymchuk and Co. propose "Soviet Socialist" to be thrown away, and everything else to be used as the basis of the new Ukrainian ... Republic.

But if you think about it, and think logically? (continued on the link)

https://topwar.ru/77837-pereosmyslit-ussr.html

[Antares]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Antares of the Russian Federation, is the successor of the USSR. How legally

I'm sorry that I break the stamps, but the Russian Federation is not the assignee of the USSR
and the country is the successor (thanks to the American lawyers of Yeltsin)
request to the administration

By common agreement of the CIS member states, it was decided to consider the Russian Federation as a state-successor of the USSR with all the consequences that follow from this: the transfer to the Russian Federation of the place of permanent member of the UN Security Council; recognition of the status of a nuclear power by the Russian Federation within the meaning of the 1968 Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons

so that all CIS countries can be considered legal successors, but this is not legally confirmed and recognized anywhere
For the Russian Federation, the legal acceptance is recognized only in narrow issues (UN place, veto, USSR assets and liabilities, nuclear weapons, etc.)
The Russian Federation cannot even be held responsible in the former USSR zone! What kind of full legal succession can we talk about?
Modern Russia is a successor to the USSR, the concept of which was put forward by American lawyers and thanks to this, it was not necessary to change anything at the UN.
So you can’t talk about legal succession without mentioning exactly where it can be applied to the Russian Federation.

Dear Antares, this is one of the few maidanut in Ukraine, which had brains. Do you sometimes read your idols and fathers of the founders of New Ukraine after 2014:

You know, the English sources suit me. I choose the sources myself, and not on the basis of information pressure
As for the legal succession, he devoted more than one hour in RuNet.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Antares

the authors in pursuit of hot news for some reason assigned him "the most powerful in the world"

And they were right. There are no more such power in the world. And there wasn’t.
Even the notorious 2B1 "Oka" had no time to get hold of nuclear ammunition.

[uav80]

Quote: Antares

the authors in pursuit of hot news for some reason assigned him "the most powerful in the world"

It is most likely talking about those in service, but the "Köyhän kansan Stuka" was never put into service, there was only a prototype for testing, and an order for only 6 pieces for subsequent military trials. In the spring of the 44th, all development work was curtailed, in the fall the order was completely canceled, and later the license was sold to the Swedes.

[Antares]

Quote: uav80

It most likely refers to those in service,

here I agree and would not argue. But they did not mention this fact.

[Mikhail3]

Modernization - will it be painted on top without stripping off the old paint? It would be nice to shoot smaller ones. The resource of the "Soviet bouquet" is very small, a few shots, and somewhere a couple of thousand km. run, no more. We would like to save them, because we won't make them anymore ...

[Nikolai Fomochkin]

Well, that’s what the Soviet past played, Oleg Divov who served in the 80s described, power, but alas for whom? You can’t take such a thing out of the reserve, the USSR was created, although now in the era of armless managers in a hurry to give out wishful thinking it is fashionable.
Get ready for a friend’s war.