On the MAX-2019 for the first time will show the Su-47 "Golden Eagle" in a static parking lot

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Today in Zhukovsky near Moscow starts the International Aviation and Space Salon MAKS-2019. The exhibition is scheduled to show many new products, but one old plane can attract much more attention than a dozen new ones. For the first time at the air show the general public will officially demonstrate the flight copy of the Golden Eagle in a static parking lot. It was this prototype of an aircraft with a reverse sweep wing that was initially considered as the basis of the fifth-generation Russian aircraft.

On the MAX-2019 for the first time will show the Su-47 "Golden Eagle" in a static parking lot




MAX-2019, not yet opening, has already issued a small sensation. AT historical parts of the cabin will be presented to the general public for the first time by the Golden Eagle, a fighter with a reverse sweep wing, in a static parking lot. The fighter was located along with the Tu-155. The car never went into production, but it made me talk about myself for many years, and still has one of the most recognizable looks.

The development of Su-47, which originally bore the Su-37 index, was started by Sukhoi Design Bureau in the 1983 year. The plane was supposed to be a development of the Su-27. First of all, the car was created in the interests of aircraft-carrying cruisers, and only then was it oriented towards the general needs of the Air Force. The development of the "Golden Eagle" then stopped in the 1988 year, then again resumed on an initiative basis.

The chief designer of this aircraft was Mikhail Poghosyan (later he headed the United Aircraft Corporation). The general designer of Sukhoi Design Bureau during this period was Mikhail Petrovich Simonov.

The flight copy of the "Golden Eagle" was built in the 1997 year. Its design with a sweep wing is made according to the aerodynamic scheme “longitudinal integral triplane”. The wing forms a single carrier system with the fuselage, can fold - a legacy of the orientation of the machine as a carrier-based fighter. Initially, the Su-47 also had a hook for landing on the deck.

In the construction, which is almost a quarter century, composite materials are actively used. It was noted that the use of carbon-fiber reinforced plastics increased weight returns by 20-25%. The resource increased by 1,5-3 times, a decrease in labor costs for the manufacture of parts was expected at the level of 40-60%.

The secret car is first shown at the MAX-2019 in a statistical parking lot. That during its first official appearance at the MAKS-1999 air show under the name Su-37, that when it was rolled out again in 2001 already under the name Su-47 "Golden Eagle", the general public was denied access to the car.

Golden Eagle was actively used as a flying laboratory in the development of the Su-57. In particular, a bomb bay was integrated into the airframe, the experience of which provided the necessary data for the development of this element for the fifth-generation Russian multifunctional.
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  1. -60
    27 August 2019 08: 28
    Who is interested in it now? Is that just to "gawk".
    1. +13
      27 August 2019 08: 36
      Therefore, they rolled out for free access, the secrecy removed can be shown
      1. +20
        27 August 2019 09: 57
        Who is interested in it now? Is that just to "gawk".

        For you, they write that this is a laboratory for running-in and testing new capabilities, components and equipment. And such laboratories are always interesting to the enemy.
        In general, "Berkut" is the most beautiful aircraft due to its unusual shape.
    2. +7
      27 August 2019 15: 01
      Quote: Nycomed
      Who is interested in it now? Is that just to "gawk".

      I would look with great interest even at old planes, the Pe-8 or Tu-4, for example.
      1. +8
        27 August 2019 16: 25
        Anyway, all our aircraft are always impressive. A MiG-21 taking off on a pedestal at the gates of a military unit in our city. Passers-by often stop to take a closer look at the handsome man and take pictures. And the question: "Who is interested in it?" Is simply not worth it.
      2. -1
        28 August 2019 04: 50
        I agree with you, I would also like to see the entire "line" of Soviet aircraft, but, unfortunately, I'm far from Monino ... request
    3. +1
      28 August 2019 09: 11
      Quote: Nycomed
      Who is interested in it now? Is that just to "gawk".

      But I’m curious .. It’s just to take a look .. A unique plane that was very impressive in childhood .. I’ll definitely reach it ..
    4. +2
      28 August 2019 11: 53
      this is the only prototype aircraft with a reverse sweep, which is brought to the real potential of a combat vehicle. He has very difficult wings.
      The same wings provide a number of unusual opportunities, for example, the Golden Eagle is easy to learn to fly at low altitudes with the mode of enveloping the terrain, it can fly at abnormally low speeds for such a machine. It would be very interesting to know how he behaves in the highlands.
  2. -25
    27 August 2019 08: 28
    As Venechka sang from "Chronicle of a Dive Bomber" - you will fly with a whistle backwards!
  3. +26
    27 August 2019 08: 34
    One of the most beautiful aircraft. (My personal opinion)
  4. +24
    27 August 2019 08: 36
    One of the most beautiful aircraft, both purely aesthetically and from an engineering point of view.
    Handsome! good
    1. +5
      27 August 2019 11: 38
      so from an engineering point of view.

      not everything is as rosy as it seems. CBS has both positive and negative aspects.
      It can be attributed to the positive that it is devoid of end stall (I remember the opponent yehat ate my brain with these end streams), therefore it has higher lift, longitudinal stability and improved mechanization (ailerons, trimmers, etc.). And the cons of CBS (due to the convergence of vortex flows to the center of the wing) to growing oscillations with the transition to flatterers and subsequent destruction of the wing are probably all well-known. Moreover, if at low speeds he flew perfectly, then with an increase in speed towards NW, these oscillations progressively increased
      1. +3
        27 August 2019 16: 37
        The people in you said that there was simply not enough money to finalize the solution of problems with CBS by selecting a corner and composites. Well, given that it was originally planned as a ship fighter, and we have aircraft carriers, there’s practically no ... we came to the conclusion that the game is not worth the candle. It is a pity, of course, a beautiful unit and it will be remembered.
        1. +1
          28 August 2019 15: 41
          He has a huge flaw. This is a composite rigid wing, which, due to the characteristics of the loads, cannot be made detachable into parts. So, even with minor damage, it is necessary to change the wing assembly, and, as it were, not yet together with the center section. That is, the aircraft is completely unsuitable for military service. But this is a flying laboratory.
      2. 0
        27 August 2019 21: 05
        Quote: Ka-52
        And the downside is ..
        there still the cost of this wing was not the last factor. Sorry, a beautiful idea and an interesting airplane
  5. -44
    27 August 2019 08: 37
    Put on a prototype that didn’t go into production ... Is there absolutely nothing to fill out the exposition?
  6. +1
    27 August 2019 08: 38
    So the Migovsky prototype then had to be set ...
    1. +12
      27 August 2019 08: 42
      So the Migovsky prototype then had to be set ...

      at MAKS 2015 was
      1. +1
        27 August 2019 16: 33
        And now it’s worth it.
  7. +17
    27 August 2019 08: 39
    I had the honor of communicating with people who built the prototype with -37.
    There is an opinion that with 37 it did not go into production because it did not like the "partners" who had a direct influence on our country in the 90s, and not because it was a "wrong concept."
    1. -22
      27 August 2019 08: 51
      Firstly, not the S-37, but the S-47. And secondly: the "partners" already in the mid-80s already "pumped" the Grumman's X-29. Google it if you're interested.
      1. +6
        27 August 2019 08: 55
        Firstly, not S-37, but S-47

        Originally C-37, C-47 was renamed later, Google
      2. +4
        27 August 2019 16: 35
        At first, not the S-47, but the Su-47. And this is the same as the S-37.
    2. +3
      27 August 2019 08: 53
      In general, the aircraft is very futuristic, foreign customers like this. I think the will was not enough then to bring to mind.
      1. +3
        27 August 2019 09: 00
        By the way, the Russian Knights decided to show quite a risky demonstrative trick to entertain the audience. That was also interesting.
        The Russian Knights aerobatic team at the MAKS-2019 air show will demonstrate a unique trick by flying the Su-30SM at a speed of less than 80 kilometers per hour and at an altitude of 100 meters.

        http://in24.org/world/37081
      2. 0
        28 August 2019 14: 19
        Quote: Sergey 777
        In general, the aircraft is very futuristic, foreign customers like this. I think the will was not enough then to bring to mind.

        The Germans also did not have enough time for Blom und Foss 209-2 The P.209.02 variant had a forward swept wing, the armament consisted of three MK 108 cannons. The P.209 project was not implemented .... Characteristics of the Bv P.209.02: crew - 1 person, power plant - 1 x turbojet engine HeS 011 with thrust 1300 kgf, wingspan - 8,1 m and its area - 14,0 m2, aircraft length - 9,2 m, height - 3,38 m, empty weight - 2674 kg, takeoff weight - 4094 kg, maximum speed at an altitude of 9000 m - 988 km / h, service ceiling - 12 m, rate of climb - 000 m / s, range - 26,0 km, maximum flight duration - 1025 hours, armament - 1,5 gun MK 3 caliber 108 mm.
    3. 0
      27 August 2019 11: 28
      Quote: Cottodraton
      There is an opinion that from 37 it did not go into production because the "partners" did not like it

      the theme "Berkut" was not continued for completely different reasons. One of them is just the "highlight" of the aircraft, KOS, namely, problems with it. Nowadays, super-maneuverability is achieved by other, not so confused methods (root influx of the wing, PGO, engines with OVT), as a problematic wing with a reverse sweep.
    4. 0
      28 August 2019 01: 33
      The plane actively flew until 2007, so the bike about partners and the 90s has nothing to do with it.
      And the project was canceled for another reason - because of the selected materials, the aircraft is not repairable. For any breakdowns, the wing needs to be changed completely, and this, obviously, sharply increases the cost of servicing the aircraft.
      1. 0
        30 August 2019 10: 26
        One thing is a prototype that "flew", and another is a series of brought up to standard
  8. -8
    27 August 2019 08: 55
    Golden Eagle was actively used as a flying laboratory in the development of the Su-57.

    Old horse furrow does not spoil
    1. -9
      27 August 2019 09: 19
      He only "plows finely". winked
      1. -3
        27 August 2019 09: 22
        Quote: Nycomed
        He only "plows finely".

        Well this is already quite old laughing
  9. +3
    27 August 2019 09: 29
    At one time, shots of test flights were shown. It looks wonderful in the sky, and the reverse sweep and the very forms of the aircraft create even a futuristic effect.
  10. -1
    27 August 2019 09: 46
    And the truth looks much better than the Su-57, it is a pity that they did not bring to mind. Straight story as with the Ka-50 ...
    1. 0
      27 August 2019 11: 38
      Quote: Archivist Vasya
      sorry that did not bring to mind

      it is a pity that they did not swell a hopeless (at least to this day) scheme with a couple more billion rubles?

      Many played with CBS, but no one brought it to mind. There are a couple of flying cars, but with a small angle of installation of the wings, and subsonic. By the way, nothing is heard about the domestic CP-10 CP-XNUMX (which they hastened to christen as super-promising) - and probably because of technical problems with it.
      1. -4
        27 August 2019 11: 54
        So the plane was not ready for this day, but 20 years ago. Although the materials now, of course, can be better and more durable to find than then. But it is better to swell on a plane than in shifting tiles and borders every half a year or sewing a new military uniform every 5 years.
        1. +3
          27 August 2019 13: 09
          Quote: Archivist Vasya
          Although the materials now, of course, can be better and more durable to find than then.

          It's not about the materials. The point is the very concept of the wing with reverse sweep (CBS). Its main advantage is giving the aircraft increased maneuverability. Now this is being solved in other ways (as I already wrote) - by the influx of the wing, PGO, motors with UVT. The result is the same (or even better), but without exotic.
          Previously, wings with variable sweep were placed, until they designed a wing that works well both in subsonic and supersonic ways and provides acceptable VPH. And the heavy mechanism for changing the wing sweep became unnecessary. Progress does not stand still.

          CBS is actually not as beautiful as it is described. Although, no doubt, the car looks very unusual. But now she has a place in the museum.
          1. -1
            27 August 2019 14: 10
            Quote: Gregory_45
            Its main advantage is giving the aircraft increased maneuverability.
            I once read about it ... in the process of designing an aircraft for TavKr decided to try the scheme with CBS, because it gives a significant increase in lift and makes it easier to take off from a short runway (I will not say more precisely). Those. super-maneuverability to do with anything.
            The meaning in the fighter with CBS disappeared after the advent of sufficiently powerful engines.
            Another thing is to use CBS to build subsonic aircraft such as AWACS and trucks for TavKr.
            1. 0
              27 August 2019 14: 29
              Quote: Simargl
              Those. super maneuverability

              on devices with CBS, there is no flow stall from the end parts of the wing due to the displacement of the air flow on the wing of the reverse sweep to its root part. This, in turn, expands the allowable angles of attack and angular velocity of rotation - i.e. increases the maneuverability of the airplane.

              Quote: Simargl
              it gives a significant increase in lift

              CBS provides a certain increase in lifting force, which, however, eats a large mass of the glider (due to the reinforced structure)
            2. 0
              27 August 2019 16: 38
              This fighter with KOS was originally planned as a deep modernization of the Su-27 in the ship's version. You're right.
              1. 0
                27 August 2019 19: 03
                Quote: Voyager
                This fighter with KOS was originally planned as a deep modernization of the Su-27 in the ship's version.
                This is what I read about: at first they strengthened the structure to the point that it began to take off badly, then they decided to deploy the wings.
                The result is an assembly that normally takes off, but does not fly well at supersonic sound, the wing is so overloaded that damage will be fatal.
                But someone believes that everything was for super-maneuverability, although the same "Pugachev cobra" was made on the Su-27 without a hint of OVT.
                1. 0
                  27 August 2019 19: 08
                  Quote: Simargl
                  although the same "Pugachev cobra" was made on the Su-27 without a hint of OVT.

                  Well, the glider of the 27th is a masterpiece of aircraft manufacturing))

                  And CBS was designed to simultaneously address issues of both shortened take-off and super-maneuverability. Such things are always considered comprehensively at the design stage.
  11. 0
    27 August 2019 09: 48
    Beautiful car, I would like to look at aerobatics at critical angles of attack.
  12. BAI
    -6
    27 August 2019 09: 57
    The secret car is first demonstrated at the MAX-2019 in a statistical parking lot.

    1. Because over the years ago it is no longer a secret.
    2. A model of how to hang noodles on the ears of the country's leadership and to master billions. By 1983, everyone knew about the futility of reverse sweep (not a single country in the world did this, everyone had already researched everything for a long time), but billions swelled.
    1. +2
      27 August 2019 10: 19
      They didn’t do it, because they couldn’t solve the problem with the strength of the wing in supersonic modes. Our were able to solve.
      1. 0
        27 August 2019 11: 31
        Quote: Izotovp
        Our were able to solve.

        and we couldn’t decide. The golden eagle did not fly at supersonic speeds, in order to avoid a catastrophe.
    2. 0
      27 August 2019 10: 54
      On the contrary, the most promising in terms of return. Material science is not ready yet
    3. 0
      27 August 2019 14: 11
      Quote: BAI
      Because over the years ago it is no longer a secret.
      At least the model for gluing has been with me for 4 years already.
  13. +1
    27 August 2019 09: 58
    To attract those wishing to "catch the eye" "Berkut" is an interesting "novelty".
  14. 0
    27 August 2019 10: 26
    The plane is interesting. It’s better to keep it for the museum, though the question is, for what?
  15. +1
    27 August 2019 10: 43
    Despite the aesthetic appearance, the scheme with the reverse wing sweep of the wing has a lot of minuses, so the plane did not go into the series, but was used as a flying laboratory
  16. -8
    27 August 2019 10: 55
    But what about the popular mantra "that an ugly plane can't fly"? smile
    1. 0
      27 August 2019 11: 38
      Tastes could not be discussed! wink
      1. 0
        27 August 2019 11: 47
        So am I about that. Flight performance has little to do with aesthetics. The golden eagle, apparently, flew well, despite the twisted wings.
        1. +5
          27 August 2019 11: 59
          Inverted wings are not a hindrance to aesthetics, besides, you forget the truly Russian expression - "terribly handsome."
    2. +1
      27 August 2019 14: 21
      Quote: voyaka uh
      But what about the popular mantra "that an ugly plane can't fly"?
      No way:
      1. -1
        27 August 2019 23: 02
        First, I agree. It was as if there was not enough money to build a full-size Su-7.
        But the second plane is simply unsuccessfully painted. And so, a very good device.
        1. 0
          28 August 2019 07: 30
          Quote: Izotovp
          But the second plane is simply unsuccessfully painted.
          Yeah. It is also called a "flying suitcase". Unpainted, it is even worse.
    3. 0
      27 August 2019 16: 39
      Golden eagle - a very beautiful plane, what are you talking about?)
    4. 0
      27 August 2019 20: 24
      And who decided that he was ugly? You have a peculiar aesthetic perception .... lol
  17. 0
    27 August 2019 12: 17
    Quote: MegaMarcel
    Put on a prototype that didn’t go into production ... Is there absolutely nothing to fill out the exposition?

    Tell us a demo of a 6th generation fighter from papier-mâché
    1. 0
      27 August 2019 13: 23
      The article states - "In the historical part of the salon, the Berkut will be presented to the general public for the first time." In the historical Karl! What other exhibit should be displayed in the HISTORICAL part of the salon?
  18. amr
    +1
    27 August 2019 13: 51
    Quote: voyaka uh
    "that an ugly plane cannot fly"?

    So he's beautiful!
  19. -1
    27 August 2019 14: 17
    Quote: gurzuf
    The article states - "In the historical part of the salon, the Berkut will be presented to the general public for the first time." In the historical Karl! What other exhibit should be displayed in the HISTORICAL part of the salon?

    My post was not for you. Or you answered not to me.
  20. Kaw
    -2
    27 August 2019 15: 56
    In the 90s he was often shown on television. The creation of some crazy genius. And vryatli rationally use it as a flying laboratory, it differs in aerodynamics from all known IMHO planes
  21. 0
    27 August 2019 16: 46
    "Zvezdovskuyu" model of this pepelatsa, assembled 15 years ago. wink
    1. +1
      28 August 2019 09: 08
      Quote: Konstantin Ivanovich Popov
      "Zvezdovskuyu" model of this pepelatsa, assembled 15 years ago. wink

      And I:)))
  22. +1
    27 August 2019 21: 54
    Quote: AlexZN
    As Venechka sang from "Chronicle of a Dive Bomber" - you will fly with a whistle backwards!

    I’ll make a small correction: it was sung by Zhenya Sobolevsky, a radio operator shooter.
    "You will be a radio operator, and a pilot in your soul,
    You will fly whistling backwards. "
    Venya was the navigator of Pawn No. 5
  23. 0
    28 August 2019 09: 55
    WTF?
    He was shown at the MAKS back in 2003, he even flew there.
    And in 2006 they already said that it would become a flying laboratory.
  24. +1
    28 August 2019 14: 13
    What struck me when I met him in person - he is so huge! True! But the PAK, on ​​the contrary, seems very small. For example, next to the Su-35. And the PAK is also sooo smooth, to the point where you start to wonder if this is a layout. But no, this "dummy" flies great.
    The MiG-1.44 is also on display, and it can be viewed closely (even very close if you're lucky). You can see how the engineers tried, what potential was for their time, and that the PAC took a lot from him.
  25. +1
    28 August 2019 15: 52
    Own pictures of S-37 and Mig-1.44
    He looked at the belly of the MiG. Unfortunately, everything is sewn up there, it is not clear where the weapon compartments should have been.

  26. 0
    28 August 2019 16: 39
    Quote: Nycomed
    Who is interested in it now? Is that just to "gawk".

    why won't he be interesting? Su-47 is no less interesting than for example the T-100 Myasishchev or the American SR-75. are you really not a curious person? do you never visit museums?
    1. +1
      28 August 2019 17: 44
      Quote: Klingon
      Su-47 is no less interesting than for example the T-100 Myasishchev or the American SR-75.

      You probably meant the plane T-4 "Sotka"? So it was created in the Sukhoi Design Bureau.
      As part of the work on the T-4 aircraft project, almost all the main components, assemblies and systems were developed at the level of inventions. In total, the designers of the Sukhoi Design Bureau introduced 208 different inventions, and taking into account the inventions that were laid down in the development of components and assemblies - about 600. Not a single aircraft built by that time in the Soviet Union simply existed so many original developments ... Already, based on this figure alone, it was a giant breakthrough in the field of aircraft construction in our country. https://topwar.ru/154627-t-4-sotka.html Myasishchev's machines carried the index "M" or "VM"
  27. +1
    28 August 2019 19: 51
    Quote: Amurets
    Quote: Klingon
    Su-47 is no less interesting than for example the T-100 Myasishchev or the American SR-75.

    You probably meant the plane T-4 "Sotka"? So it was created in the Sukhoi Design Bureau.
    As part of the work on the T-4 aircraft project, almost all the main components, assemblies and systems were developed at the level of inventions. In total, the designers of the Sukhoi Design Bureau introduced 208 different inventions, and taking into account the inventions that were laid down in the development of components and assemblies - about 600. Not a single aircraft built by that time in the Soviet Union simply existed so many original developments ... Already, based on this figure alone, it was a giant breakthrough in the field of aircraft construction in our country. https://topwar.ru/154627-t-4-sotka.html Myasishchev's machines carried the index "M" or "VM"

    Thanks for the information, I got it wrong

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