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"Petrel" in the foreign press. Doomsday weapons or fake?

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Since last spring, the foreign press has shown great interest in the prospective project of the Burevestnik cruise missile. In recent days, there has been a new wave of publications on this topic, associated with recent events at one of the Russian landfills. The accident with a product from the nuclear industry was quickly connected with the Petrel project, which gave rise to a new discussion of a promising rocket. Naturally, a variety of ideas and opinions are expressed.




Doomsday Weapons?


An attempt at objective analysis is being undertaken by The National Interest. Sebastian Roblin's article “Russian Nuclear-Powered 'Skyfall' Missile with Unlimited Range: A Doomsday Weapon?” From 18 August discusses known facts and the latest news, after which conclusions are drawn that claim to be objective.

The author recalls that the goal of the Petrel project is to create a rocket with a nuclear power plant that has an almost unlimited flight range. First of all, he wonders why Russia is trying to create such a weaponcharacterized by great complexity.

The author considers Moscow’s fears related to the development of foreign missile defense systems to be the main reason for this. Intercontinental ballistic missiles fly fast and high, but are clearly visible. Using their developed systems, the United States can detect and hit part of the Russian ICBMs. A complete repulse of the attack is still impossible, but Moscow is worried about the possible development of the American missile defense.

Unlike ICBMs, cruise missiles fly near the surface and go around obstacles, making it difficult to intercept them. Ground radars will only be able to find such targets at a distance of tens of miles. Because of this, the creation of an “anti-missile umbrella” as a type of defense system against ICBMs is impossible.

Modern cruise missiles cannot carry enough fuel for intercontinental flight. In addition, their speed is also limited. A nuclear-powered rocket has a theoretically and virtually unlimited range. It can not only achieve the goal, but also fly along the optimal route, bypassing the air defense zone.

The National Interest recalls data from foreign intelligence. It is alleged that since 2016, at least a dozen test launches of the new missile were carried out at the Kapustin Yar, Pankovo ​​and Nenoks training grounds, but only two were successful. In November 2017, a video was made, which later accompanied the speech of the Russian president. S. Roblin believes that the course of testing indicates the immaturity of the project. In addition, he recalls the estimates according to which the Petrel will not be able to influence the processes surrounding the new START treaty, since its adoption is a matter of the distant future.

The author believes that Russia is still far from a final solution to all pressing problems and putting a new missile on duty. At the same time, even the performance of all work will not save you from problems. Deploying dozens of Petrel products will be quite expensive, and in addition, it will not be without political consequences. You should also keep in mind security issues - as the August 8 incident shows.

Is the rocket fake?


On August 22, another publication about The Petrel appeared in Foreign Policy. The headline “Is Russian Doomsday Missile Fake News?” Set the tone for the article by Amy Mackinnon and Lara Seligman. The recent events were expected to be the reason for her appearance. At the same time, a very curious opinion is expressed, which contradicts numerous other media publications.



The publication cites the words of Michael Kofman, a specialist in Russia from the Center for Naval Analysis in Arlington. He indicates that the emergency reactor was for military purposes. Moreover, the available data does not allow us to unambiguously associate it with the Petrel product. Several projects using nuclear technology are currently being implemented in Russia, and in Nenoks they could test a component not only for a cruise missile.

FP also cites Ian Williams, deputy director of the Missile Defense Project of the Center for Strategic and International Studies. In his opinion, the Russians simply “throw spaghetti into the wall and look what’s stuck.” He also doubts that Russia will be able to bring the Petrel project to the end and organize the production of such weapons. I. Williams recalls that no other country is trying to create such weapons. In the long run, the new missile can be considered the boldest in technical terms and probably the most expensive.

The authors recall last year’s announcement of new Russian weapons made personally by the head of state. They point out that all such systems are unattainable for US missile defense systems. This fact directly indicates the main fears of Russia. FP also provides a list of promising strategic weapons, and indicates that the United States should respond to them.

Absurd strategy


No less interesting opinions were published on August 21 by The New Republic in the article “The Absurd Strategy Behind Russian Nuclear Explosion”, authored by Ankit Panda. The beginning of the material touches upon the events of the beginning of August, and in it the author tries to find a connection between the Nenoks incident and the Petrel missile. Then, the article examines the actual rocket and its features of various kinds.

The author is looking for the reasons for the appearance of "Petrel". Such weapons can be used as a means of retaliation. Such systems are able to deter the enemy from the first disarming attack. During the Cold War, the first strike was a major cause for concern, but now the situation has changed.

The first blow from the United States does not bother Moscow. The Russian leadership directly says that the main problem is the US missile defense. With such systems, retaliation may be limited. The potential of the American missile defense is not too high, but Russian experts do not expect that the situation will not change in the future. Therefore, a hypersonic warhead, an autonomous underwater vehicle, and a cruise missile with unlimited flight range are being developed.

A. Panda considers this concept doubtful. Russia without the "Petrel" has a set of tools and systems that guarantee a retaliatory defeat of the United States. In this case, a cruise missile is needed only to "put an exclamation mark in the thermonuclear apocalypse."

There are also problems with the strategic importance of the new weapon. The United States, already faced with difficulties in the field of missile defense, can deploy air defense systems. Both Russian boasting and investing in controversial projects (the author points out that this is not only an American “tradition”) can be a good incentive for new research and projects.



FP also recalls exactly how US President Donald Trump reacted to news about the accident at the Russian landfill. He wrote that the United States has similar, but more advanced technologies. However, the publication indicates an attempt at boasting.

The article concludes with a passage affecting both Moscow and Washington. The author writes that in both countries, leaders make weapons a cult, and “military opportunists and manufacturers” support them, almost nothing can prevent the start of a new arms race with the advent of unusual and bizarre patterns.

Difference of opinion


It is curious that in the first days after reports of the 8 accident in August, foreign media mainly tried to establish the circumstances of the incident and connect them with well-known Russian-designed projects. Then the emphasis shifted, and now the accident is only an occasion for a new study of the Petrel project based on the available data.

Opinions about the new Russian missile vary. At the same time, everyone agrees in the extreme complexity and high cost of such a project. They also recognize the high technical characteristics and combat qualities of a rocket brought to the required state. However, there is no consensus on the strategic value of such weapons or on their impact on the international situation.

Obviously, new publications on promising Russian weapons will continue to appear in the future, and again they will reveal different points of view. The publication of certain data will remove some of the questions, but there is no need to wait for unity in assessments.
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  1. Aerodrome
    Aerodrome 27 August 2019 05: 38
    +2
    for now, the "petrel" looks like a "gopher" ... either there is ... or not ... we will judge by the fact. and "bluff", it is present in any game, and sometimes helps to win.
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    2. Ilya-spb
      Ilya-spb 27 August 2019 06: 06
      +8
      Here's my question after reading it ... With all due respect to Avangard, Poseidon, Petrel - why did Russia abandon the Barguzin railway complex? Is the train with the MB rocket more expensive than all the new projects?
      1. Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat 27 August 2019 07: 43
        -1
        The "cobalt bomb" is the real doomsday weapon. For her, even, no means of delivery are needed - he blew up on his territory and the entire planet-kirdyk. yes
        1. Thrifty
          Thrifty 27 August 2019 12: 27
          0
          Monster Fat - why not a "California bomb", the level of radioactivity of which is several orders of magnitude higher than the usual atomic bomb? ??
          1. dzvero
            dzvero 27 August 2019 19: 42
            +1
            California stockpiled for nuclear bullets smile
            A nuclear charge from a cobalt shell can still (so far in theory) put a bullet in the history of the human race ...
        2. pru-pavel
          pru-pavel 28 August 2019 06: 22
          0
          By the way, not all. Lower living organisms are very resistant to radiation. Those doses, for example, from which a person dies, even if they are increased every 100 times, the same potato will not only not suffer, but will even begin to grow better. True, of course, mammals are all about equally poorly tolerated radiation.
          1. Mavrikiy
            Mavrikiy 28 August 2019 10: 37
            0
            Quote: pru-pavel
            By the way, not all. True, of course, mammals are all about equally poorly tolerated radiation.
            Rats are stable.
            For ten years, a huge number of nuclear weapon explosions were carried out in this village. Their number reaches forty. After such a long trial period, many scientists were sent to this village who were supposed to study the state of air, soil, animals, etc., since this village was being prepared for further use by people. Scientists (among whom were biologists) concluded that the territory of the village has a high dose of radiation. In particular, it was traced in soil, plants, ponds, and fish.
            At the same time, biologists were interested in knowing whether the rats could survive with such radiation. The fact that rats are able to adapt to any conditions was known for a long time, but there was no scientific evidence for this. Biologists set traps, and very soon many representatives of the rodent class appeared in them. Scientists noted that these rats are much larger than their relatives, who were not exposed to radiation. And after studying their vital functions, it was found that the life indicators of rats exposed to radiation not only did not decrease, but also became slightly higher.
            1. pru-pavel
              pru-pavel 29 August 2019 09: 52
              0
              Rats may be a little more stable. But the same plants are more stable compared to rats and humans by a thousand times.
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      2. A1845
        A1845 27 August 2019 10: 49
        +5
        An attempt objective The analysis is undertaken by The National Interest.

        already funny
      3. Sahalinets
        Sahalinets 27 August 2019 11: 03
        +3
        Well, firstly, the railway installation is easy to track, because it must be taken into account by the Russian Railways.
        Secondly, what about train accidents?
        Third, what about her protection? Disguise as a regular composition does not work, and the unusual will be too visible.
        In Soviet times, these problems were solved, but nonetheless, raised questions.
        It’s better to do as the once planned mini-ICBMs and carry it on an imitation truck.
      4. EXPrompt
        EXPrompt 27 August 2019 11: 25
        +3
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        Here's my question after reading it ... With all due respect to Avangard, Poseidon, Petrel - why did Russia abandon the Barguzin railway complex? Is the train with the MB rocket more expensive than all the new projects?


        Because it's a ballistic missile. The Russian Federation already has a lot of such weapons.
      5. Normal ok
        Normal ok 28 August 2019 10: 07
        -2
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        Is a train with an MB rocket more expensive than all new projects?

        Of course cheaper. That is why they refused. On the "Barguzin" the grandma could not be sawed.
    3. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 27 August 2019 06: 14
      +12
      "Petrel" in the foreign press. Doomsday weapons or fake?
      Quote: Aerodrome
      for now, the "petrel" looks like a "gopher" ...

      You know, but to me, as a former military man, it is considered right not to throw beads before ... Remember how recently the whole world watched with wide eyes, mouths and other openings on the body:

      There will be day and there will be food. What's the use of the fact that the "Petrel" is available in its natural form. They won't show him or let him touch him. It's like with masculine dignity - you can only define it in action and in a very narrow circle ... laughing
    4. NEXUS
      NEXUS 27 August 2019 09: 17
      0
      Quote: Aerodrome
      for now, the "petrel" looks like a "gopher" ... either there is ... or not ... we will judge by the fact. and "bluff", it is present in any game, and sometimes helps to win.

      If our Glonas is covered with a copper basin, then the Petrels with the Vanguards will be useless, as well as many other weapons. In fact, without Glonas, we are blind in one eye. There is a Chinese alternative, but without YOUR satellite constellation, we become dependent, and therefore vulnerable.
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 27 August 2019 10: 32
        +1
        Quote: NEXUS
        If our Glonas is covered with a copper basin, then ...

        I’ll tell you more - if the Earth lands on its axis, then even GLONASS will not help ... wink

        And, yes - but where did you get the idea that GLONASS should "cover itself"?
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 27 August 2019 12: 13
          -2
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          And, yes - but where did you get the idea that GLONASS should "cover itself"?

          From the latest news about GLONASS satellites.
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 27 August 2019 12: 19
            +4
            Quote: NEXUS
            From the latest news about GLONASS satellites

            Are these the last ones in VO?

            Clear. This groan is called a song (s) yes
          2. 17085
            17085 28 August 2019 14: 37
            +1
            Why did you decide that Petrel and especially Vanguard, which makes a significant part of its journey in a cloud of plasma, work with GLONASS?
            1. SovAr238A
              SovAr238A 29 August 2019 01: 14
              0
              Quote: 17085
              Why did you decide that Petrel and especially Vanguard, which makes a significant part of its journey in a cloud of plasma, work with GLONASS?

              And how will launchers be tied to coordinates?
              1. 17085
                17085 19 September 2019 23: 34
                0
                I will not say, because this is a military secret.
      2. dauria
        dauria 27 August 2019 14: 43
        +7
        If our Glonas is covered with a copper basin, then the Petrels with the Vanguards will be useless


        Hm. They flew to America through the North Pole during the time of Chkalov, having on board only a triangle of bearings to ground radio stations. There are tons of autonomous on-board navigation aids so you don’t miss a target the size of Los Angeles.
      3. Dart
        Dart 27 August 2019 16: 26
        +4
        for such weapon systems, satellite orientation is not the main thing ... read ...
    5. EXPrompt
      EXPrompt 27 August 2019 11: 31
      +7
      Skyfall is not just the Kyrgyz Republic, it will take into account multiplying the US spending on building defense by half.
      They will build 2 systems - a new missile defense system for intercepting ballistic and quasi-ballistic missiles, and US air defense, which it does not have.
      In this model, the US missile defense system will already be undermined during construction, and then air defense systems must be built in all aspects of the territory.
      Putin very correctly comes with trump cards. And it makes our likely friends spend money on an adult, before selling the last underpants.
    6. Dante Alighieri
      Dante Alighieri 27 August 2019 16: 36
      -1
      Personally, I see in Petrel an attempt to oppose something to Boeing with its X-37B. Like, look at you an Aircraft that has spent 2 years in orbit, but we have an eternal rocket that may not land at all. Well, the fact that it simultaneously pollutes everything around with radiation is, as the Red Cynic says: "Sheer trifles!" Honestly, I understand that physicists are talented guys, but they cannot be called "normal". They will first blow up the planet, and then they will think about the consequences. Recall at least an example of how American atomic lobbyists, realizing what kind of weapon they had handed into the hands of Uncle Sam, began to urgently leak information to their Soviet colleagues in order to save them from dead-end ideas in advance (ala the fascist principle of detonating a nuclear charge by the shock mechanics of two uranium blanks), thereby by speeding up the process of creating a Soviet nuclear bomb as much as possible.
      No, if you’re certainly nicer than cancer in yourself and your children - then please, but I personally got tired of burying every second in my family from this infection. And no, I have not read the yellow press, I have no time for that. It is enough to recall the school physics course to understand what processes occur with air when it passes through the reactor core. And after all, today is not the 60s. when it was at least somewhat justified, but even then they abandoned this path. And what do we see now? Once again, the leadership of our country, at the expense of the health of its citizens, is trying to amuse its senile ambitions. It is senile, for geopolitical ambitions with the ideology of a merchant who is ready to kiss the one who hit him in the back for a penny in the gums, and with the economy and social sphere destroyed by his own hands, is completely out of the question.
  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 27 August 2019 05: 58
    +8
    riwas
    ... Aviation expert Vadim Lukashevich wrote on Facebook ...
    Well, if V. Lukashevich himself, who is a frequent guest of "Dozhd" and a respected "expert" of the liberal media, wrote on Facebook, then of course it is simply necessary to "believe" this "expert".
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 27 August 2019 06: 06
      +6
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Well, if V. Lukashevich himself wrote on Facebook, who is a frequent guest of "Rain"

      it is more correct to write "LIE" wink
  3. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 27 August 2019 06: 04
    +11
    As they say in Russia, "The trouble is the beginning!" Back in the early 10s of the last century, airplanes were "flying planes" ... and from the beginning of the 50s all developed countries began to switch to jet aircraft! Even "a little bit" and aviation became not only jet, but also supersonic ... And the tanks? Imagine the English "rhombus" and, for example, the T-34 ... the difference between them is a little over 20 years ... Between the airplanes before WW1 and the jet aircraft of the mid-40s ... the time interval is -30 years, but what's the difference?
    But the "catch" is also in the fact that technological progress is accelerating every decade! (it's a pity that I don't remember how much ... 1,5? 2 times? ...) And that's why my preface is that if today "Petrel" is a prototype, "a stumbling invalid" ... "tomorrow" is a regular weapons with subsonic speed, and "the day after tomorrow" - a supersonic CD ... and there, you see, "and a stone's throw" to a hypersonic weapon with an "atomic" engine! IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL!
    1. Slavenin82
      Slavenin82 27 August 2019 07: 57
      +2
      And there you look and a stone's throw ... to the USA! laughing
  4. afrikanez
    afrikanez 27 August 2019 06: 21
    +3
    Let the "petrel" be a fake, for them then oh what a "surprise" it will be. lol
  5. Local from the Volga
    Local from the Volga 27 August 2019 06: 43
    +4
    That's interesting, during my lifetime I will be able to wave a stone ax for food ?!)))
    1. Mooh
      Mooh 27 August 2019 12: 38
      +3
      Stone hardly, it makes no sense if there is a huge amount of already manufactured metal, but a hardened spring is quite possible.
  6. Voronezh-90
    Voronezh-90 27 August 2019 08: 08
    +4
    Why new versions of old events?

    "The tests near Severodvinsk were related to the development of weapons in connection with the US withdrawal from the ABM Treaty in 2002," said Alexei Karpov, the acting Russian ambassador to Vienna.
    On August 8, an explosion occurred at the test site near Severodvinsk during the testing of a "special product", as a result of which five Rosatom employees died.
    According to Karpov, the accident has nothing to do with nuclear testing and does not apply to the subject of the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CTBT).
    The tests carried out at the military range on August 8 near Severodvinsk were associated with the development of weapons, which we were forced to start creating as one of the retaliatory measures in connection with the unilateral withdrawal of the United States from the Treaty on the Limitation of Anti-Ballistic Missile Systems in 2002, "he said.
    Karpov also added that there is no danger to the life and health of the population in connection with the incident near Severodvinsk, and the radiation background is at a normal level.
    It is still not known exactly which tests led to the explosion near Severodvinsk. "

    Briefly and clearly!
    1. Glory1974
      Glory1974 27 August 2019 14: 28
      0
      Karpov also added that there is no danger to the life and health of the population in connection with the incident near Severodvinsk, and the radiation background is at a normal level.
      It is still not known exactly which tests led to the explosion near Severodvinsk. "
      Briefly and clearly!

      In short, yes! There is no clarity. Moreover, the local population has a lot of rumors, even to the extent that there was a small nuclear explosion. And then there is "Echo of Moscow" broadcasting that the surgeon who provided assistance died of radiation, and the entire hospital was decontaminated and the bathtubs and toilets were cut off, because they had a strong fon.
      So we will discuss the incident for a long time.
  7. Egoza
    Egoza 27 August 2019 09: 24
    +7
    Urgently! Translate into english. lang and circulate to all media in the US as well as "competent authorities"
    "Over the gray plain of the sea, the wind gathers clouds. Between the clouds and the sea, the Petrel, like a black lightning, flutters proudly.
    Either touching the wing of the wave, then flying up to the clouds with an arrow, he screams, and the clouds hear joy in the bold cry of a bird.
    In this cry is the thirst for the storm! The clouds in this cry hear the power of anger, the flame of passion and confidence in victory. "M. Gorky
  8. Thrifty
    Thrifty 27 August 2019 12: 29
    -1
    Again Cyril drove a pitchfork through the water! wassat It’s good that the adversary has no information about this missile — shake harder, and they will sleep worse from fear! !!
  9. Fevralsk. Morev
    Fevralsk. Morev 27 August 2019 14: 59
    -2
    The cartoons were used about the armament of Russia with a super duper mega weapon. So fake.
  10. Flatter
    Flatter 27 August 2019 15: 15
    -2
    So that it was not a fake, they could demonstrate a working engine. In appearance, there are no special secrets to pull out. But even this is not. So, fake, a planned disinformation.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 28 August 2019 19: 02
      +1
      Quote: Flatter
      So fake, planned disinformation.

      "It's a strange thing: Brains are an invisible thing, but their absence is noticeable right away! (C)
      Well, if, in your opinion, this is a fake, then:
      1. What to do with 10 trials, of which, according to the Western media themselves, 2 are successful?
      2. And what then exploded if "fake" - by definition does not explode, because it is immaterial (the fruit of a sick fantasy)?
      3. Isn't it too expensive a price for a "fake" 7 human lives?
      Therefore, your statement is BSK naked! yes
      1. Flatter
        Flatter 29 August 2019 08: 38
        0
        Dr. Ostretsov, physicist, nuclear scientist- "It is difficult to say what exactly was there ... In addition, no one gives the isotopic composition. But it was necessary to measure and report which isotope was there, and it would immediately become clear what it has to do with it and etc.

        And all these versions about this very "Petrel", as I understand it, they are mainly initiated by the Americans. The goal, in a simple way, is to "steam" the brains of ordinary people, because, of course, there can be no "Petrel", all this is utter nonsense.
  11. Old26
    Old26 27 August 2019 21: 30
    +3
    Unlike ICBMs, cruise missiles fly near the surface and go around obstacles, making it difficult to intercept them. Ground radars will only be able to find such targets at a distance of tens of miles. Because of this, the creation of an “anti-missile umbrella” as a type of defense system against ICBMs is impossible.

    Well, in addition to ground-based radars, there are also radars on AWACS aircraft. In addition, there are over-the-horizon radars, which although they cannot provide target designation, they can detect carriers of such missiles and launch cruise missiles. Moreover, the launches do not take place at extremely low altitudes, the rocket nevertheless sags a hundred or two meters after leaving the bomb bay, which means the bomber will not have to fly to PMV

    Modern cruise missiles cannot carry enough fuel for intercontinental flight. In addition, their speed is also limited. A nuclear-powered rocket has a theoretically and virtually unlimited range. It can not only achieve the goal, but also fly along the optimal route, bypassing the air defense zone.

    The question is quite controversial. X-1xx missiles have ranges already comparable to intercontinental, about 4000-5000 km, according to open sources. And this means that starting from the Coal Mine airport and not going beyond the limits of its own thermostats, a bomber with such missiles covers almost the entire territory of Canada and about a third of the west of the United States. Having descended to the traverse of Petropavlovsk and being at a distance of a couple of hundred kilometers from the coast, a bomber will be able to hit at least half of the US territory with missiles.
    Why do I need a subsonic missile with unlimited range (Poison), I honestly do not understand. I can not imagine the functionality of this rocket. The conversation that a missile can bypass air defense zones also does not hold water. An ordinary cruise missile can do this. And it can bypass air defense zones (and will bypass) provided that these air defense zones are stationary. Stationary air defense systems now very, very few remain in the world. The rest are mobile. And the air defense zone can move many tens of kilometers from the previously detected

    Quote: Ilya-spb
    Here's my question after reading it ... With all due respect to Avangard, Poseidon, Petrel - why did Russia abandon the Barguzin railway complex? Is the train with the MB rocket more expensive than all the new projects?

    This is a very expensive pleasure. The USSR at one time planned to deploy 7 divisions. Deployed only three:
    • 10th Guards Missile Division in the Kostroma Region;
    • 52nd Missile Division, stationed in ZATO Zvezdny (Perm Territory);
    • 36th Missile Division, Closed Joint-Stock Company Kedrovy (Krasnoyarsk Territory).
    Moreover, the infrastructure of the 36th division was not fully deployed, and then the composition of this division had to be driven to ZATO Zvezdny
    Each regiment is essentially a railway station with a large number of structures and a sufficiently developed railway infrastructure.
    In addition, in order to provide the possibility of firing from the route, a large number of field launching positions were created, which are deserted semi-stations with a number of tracks. It was necessary to carry out work related to the navigation of trains on routes.

    Now they plan (planned) to deploy only one division, which will include 5 regiments (formulations). We'll have to build at least 5 "stations" with all the infrastructure, a large number of field starting positions. In addition, it will be necessary to build residential townships for the division. It is very, very expensive. It is easier to deploy additional regiments as part of the existing PGRK divisions. The Barguzin complex was supposed to carry a total of 30 missiles. And these are three regiments of the PGRK, which can be dispersed throughout Russia and move in any desired direction, and not be tied to a "piece of iron"
  12. Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 28 August 2019 09: 09
    -1
    And the sense of the Kyrgyz Republic, which can winding circles? If there is a target, then the KR will fly there, if the target is in non-zone of the Kyrgyz Republic, it is delivered by air / sea / land ship.
    But God forbid an accident with such a missile, that’s all. There, the accident was recently. And how many doses the people received - no one says. I'm talking about real doses.
    And then, as in Chernobyl, they say everything is okay ...
  13. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 28 August 2019 10: 12
    -1
    A. Panda considers this concept doubtful. Russia without the "Petrel" has set means and systems that guarantee a retaliatory defeat of the United States. In this case, a cruise missile is needed only to "put an exclamation mark in the thermonuclear apocalypse."
    Well, at least he doesn’t offer to disarm. Another set will not interfere with the kit. It will be calmer. We will still work, in terms of security. It would be nice to create a concrete-piercing torpedo with a nuclear engine and send it under the mantle of the earth to Manhattan .....
  14. 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 29 August 2019 10: 40
    0
    Quote: Monster_Fat
    The "cobalt bomb" is the real doomsday weapon. For her, even, no means of delivery are needed - he blew up on his territory and the entire planet-kirdyk. yes


    cobalt theory is interesting, but I think unrealizable ..
    firstly, there is not so much cobalt-60 on the whole planet, and secondly, if you are so stoned to want to destroy the planet and want to collect 500 tons of brain to produce cobalt, there will be no opportunities to make it, too, because to collect it must be very a developed country has been working for many years and then why should it kill everyone if it is so developed?
    Yes, and it seems to me even the IHIL residents will not go if they give it to them ..
    And by the way, cobalt will decompose in 5 years. there is no guarantee at all that all of humanity will die .. even if this theoretical bomb works as intended and covers well the entire surface of the Earth without "white spots" ..
  15. Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 29 August 2019 13: 51
    0
    Any weapon can be fully tested only by experiment with a possible lethal effect for one of the testers. So in childhood I saw an action movie in which two very militant men argued whether throwing a knife could parasit an enemy who already holds a revolver in his hand ready to fire. At first, they did not want to kill each other and one had to shoot a tin can, and the other, in front of a respectable public, simultaneously throw a knife into a piece of wood. Tried everyone screamed that the knife and bullet hit the target at the same time. Then the owner of the revolver yelled that this was not possible. And he said that he would certainly kill this bouncer if there was a duel. The opponent agreed, the second waved his hand, but there was no shot as the owner of the revolver fell, the knife hit him in the liver.
  16. morgan_67
    morgan_67 1 September 2019 18: 04
    0
    "" Burevestnik "in the foreign press. Doomsday weapon" - a question for whom? Judging by the latest tests, the Russians need to worry, and the West has nothing to fear.