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The authorities explained why you need to transfer the capital of Indonesia for 33 billion dollars

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The Indonesian authorities announced their readiness to transfer the capital of the state. Currently, the Indonesian capital is the city of Jakarta, located on the island of Java.



Jakarta slums on the water


The population of Jakarta is about 17 million people, with agglomeration - about 33 million. Jakarta with its environs is one of the most densely populated regions of the planet. This affects administrative functionality, including security and transport accessibility issues. Another problem in Jakarta is frequent earthquakes.

Today, the president of Indonesia, Joko Vidodo, announced that the state’s capital will be moved. According to him, the choice of location for the new capital fell on the island of Kalimantan (aka Borneo). It is noted that a new place for the main city of the country was also chosen due to the fact that this place has the lowest seismic hazard among all Indonesian territories. This is an area near Kutai Kartenegara in eastern Borneo - about 1,4 thousand km from Jakarta.

To transfer the capital, along with a huge administrative apparatus, a colossal amount is required - about 33 billion dollars! The President explained why they are planning to spend such impressive amounts.

Joko Widodo:

For many years, Jakarta has successfully carried out the functions of the capital, but the time has come to admit that the burden that today lies on the multi-million dollar Jakarta is too great for the center of economic and political management to be located in it.


Night Jakarta, business center


The President noted that the population density of Jakarta has grown to enormous levels and today it is twice as much as, for example, in Singapore. This leads to environmental problems affecting the health of residents.

Scientists note that the territory in which Jakarta is located, annually falls by an amount from 10 to 20 cm in connection with the seismic activity of these places. Based on this, scientists concluded: Jakarta may be completely flooded after 30 years.
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  1. Civil
    Civil 26 August 2019 14: 30
    -1
    The great-grandson of Kisa Vorobyaninova will still become the governor of Borneo. It’s easier to leave a huge city than to try to save it, I recognize the handwriting of the masters.
    1. Rzzz
      Rzzz 26 August 2019 14: 58
      +7
      And how will you save him if the earth leaves under your feet ..
      1. Shurik70
        Shurik70 26 August 2019 22: 10
        0
        Encountering traffic jams, we chose the largest island.
        Indonesia's Borneo area is about 545 thousand sq. Km.
        There is room to expand laughing
  2. Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 26 August 2019 14: 30
    +17
    Let's make Novosibirsk the capital of Russia) In the light of the INF Treaty, this is also true)
    1. den3080
      den3080 26 August 2019 14: 35
      +9
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      Let's make Novosibirsk the capital of Russia) In the light of the INF Treaty, this is also true)

      From this point of view, the best place for the new capital of Russia is Igarka.
      1. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 26 August 2019 16: 15
        +6
        The best place for the capital of Russia is Oymyakon. laughing
        1. Rzzz
          Rzzz 26 August 2019 20: 29
          +2
          The government will not go there. From there you can’t get to Nice with a business jet.
          1. Reserve buildbat
            Reserve buildbat 26 August 2019 20: 32
            +10
            But close to Magadan)))
          2. S-kerrigan
            S-kerrigan 27 August 2019 08: 28
            +1
            Well xs, in 2019 business jets are such that the 747th breathe in the back of the head, and can fly ...
            https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulfstream_G650 - этот и такое расстояние покроет.
            1. Rzzz
              Rzzz 28 August 2019 01: 03
              0
              It will not start at -50 ° C. Only the harsh An-24 is there.
      2. Grits
        Grits 27 August 2019 04: 58
        +2
        Quote: den3080
        From this point of view, the best place for the new capital of Russia is Igarka.

        And what - very good. In any case, fewer people will flee to the capital from the regions in search of happiness.
    2. Nycomed
      Nycomed 26 August 2019 14: 41
      +8
      I totally agree with you! But not Novosibirsk. He is already too big. My version is Tobolsk. wink
      1. Phil77
        Phil77 26 August 2019 15: 12
        +5
        Take it! Take it! Take it! That's absolutely not against it. laughing
      2. Nycomed
        Nycomed 26 August 2019 15: 20
        +13
        There is infrastructure in Tojolsk. She is not in Igarka. In addition, it is important: in Tobolsk there is a KREMLIN, lol
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 26 August 2019 15: 31
          +2
          Only you know, it's just words and emotions. Do you think the main offices of companies are eager to go to the hinterland? Ministries? State Duma? Government? Let even the conditional city be called the capital of Russia? Oh no! And their wives, and servants? Once again not. So all this is a fantasy.
          1. Greenwood
            Greenwood 26 August 2019 15: 45
            +9
            Quote: Phil77
            You think the main offices of companies are eager to go to the outback
            And why do the main offices of companies sit in the capital? Over in the States, almost all large offices are located in small towns thousands of kilometers from Washington and New York.
            1. Phil77
              Phil77 26 August 2019 15: 47
              +2
              But this is a question for the heads of these companies!
            2. reservist
              reservist 26 August 2019 16: 18
              +3
              not only in the States ... if the infrastructure of these towns allows, why not sit in them ... the overhead is less there ...
            3. Sergej1972
              Sergej1972 26 August 2019 17: 27
              +2
              Well, New York has a bunch of head offices. And these "small towns" are often the outskirts of large cities or their closest suburbs, included in the agglomeration. Just formally they are separate municipalities. In small towns outside urbanized areas, outside the largest metropolitan areas, no one is particularly happy with offices.
              1. Greenwood
                Greenwood 26 August 2019 17: 46
                +7
                New York is not their capital. And besides him there are a bunch of other developed cities and metropolitan areas. In general, their country is decentralized and not tied to one city like ours. And it is right. And we have come to the conclusion that there is a fattening swollen Moscow with an exorbitant budget, a couple of more or less good living millionaires and the endangered territories of the rest of the country, especially in the Far East.
                Quote: Sergej1972
                In small towns outside the urbanized territories, outside the largest megacities, no one particularly arranges offices.
                They do not have many unorganized territories, unlike us. Developed infrastructure allows you not to shove offices in the center of the metropolis. Take any Western IT company, their offices are not in New York, not in Los Angeles and not even in San Francisco, but in small towns. We don’t even like the Moscow Region; give everyone the center of Moscow with a view of the Kremlin.
                1. Phil77
                  Phil77 27 August 2019 07: 07
                  0
                  Good morning to you, dear Greenwood! But you yourself answered your own question!
                2. S-kerrigan
                  S-kerrigan 27 August 2019 08: 32
                  0
                  Give everyone the center of Moscow with a view of the Kremlin

                  Um, well, exactly the same lie. I’m from the area (sphere) where the presence of the Kremlin in the window certainly amuses pride, but doesn’t solve anything in fact.
          2. Nycomed
            Nycomed 26 August 2019 15: 59
            -3
            There are enough offices there. And the state. employees, if they ask similar questions: right outside the gate. am
          3. Ros 56
            Ros 56 26 August 2019 16: 36
            +5
            Astana in Kazakhstan is an example to you. As the king says so it will be. And even more so, no one is going to ask wives and servants.
            1. Sergej1972
              Sergej1972 26 August 2019 17: 29
              +3
              Actually, Alma-Ata still performs a significant part of the capital's functions.
              1. Ros 56
                Ros 56 27 August 2019 06: 04
                +1
                Is anyone arguing with this? I believe in Moscow there is an extreme concentration of even that which, in principle, should not be there and which creates only inconvenience. And even from the point of view of security, the compulsory dispersal of administrative structures throughout the country is required.
          4. Nycomed
            Nycomed 28 August 2019 05: 13
            -3
            Yes, I understand everything, I just would like it to be so.
        2. reservist
          reservist 26 August 2019 15: 53
          +1
          well, only finally Gazprom was going to St. Petersburg, and now again ...
    3. Galleon
      Galleon 26 August 2019 15: 05
      +7
      Muscovites - FOR! According to any proposed option. Agree to rename to Old Vasyuki.
    4. Voronezh-90
      Voronezh-90 26 August 2019 15: 29
      +2
      Only Voronezh! Voronezh - there is Voronezh!
      1. Sergey-8848
        Sergey-8848 26 August 2019 17: 56
        +2
        Looks great in every way Bobruiskas the classics bequeathed. He was considered in those years "... a wonderful, highly cultured place ..."
        And Jakarta just overflowed like a trash can. Here are the Indonesian authorities and invented justifications to get down. Examples are - Brasilia, Canberra, Akmola (at least as you call it).
        1. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 26 August 2019 22: 48
          +2
          So after all, Bobruisk is in another state, in the Republic of Belarus.)
        2. Grits
          Grits 27 August 2019 05: 03
          +2
          Quote: Sergey-8848
          Examples are - Brasilia, Canberra, Akmola (at least as you call it).

          Can be completed with Ottawa and Bonn (in due time)
          1. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 27 August 2019 11: 47
            +1
            Brasilia (in part), Canberra, Ottawa is mainly the result of a compromise, when the two largest cities did not agree on primacy.
          2. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 27 August 2019 11: 48
            0
            Bonn was a forced and temporary solution.
    5. Nestorovich
      Nestorovich 27 August 2019 02: 07
      0
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      Let's make Novosibirsk the capital of Russia) In the light of the INF Treaty, this is also true)

      not a bad idea, by the way, a national project can give a kick to a stagnant economy.
  3. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 26 August 2019 14: 34
    +3
    need to transfer the capital of Indonesia for 33 billion dollars
    Well, that’s right. The machine will move, Jakarta will unload, take a breath, and still live,
    annually falls by a value of 10 to 20 cm in connection with the seismic activity of these places. Based on this, scientists concluded: Jakarta may be completely flooded after 30 years.
    Set up skyscrapers in the swamps.
    tropical marsh soils are also common in the lowlands of Kalimantan and Sumatra; lateritic glue soils are found in the western part of the island of New Guinea.
  4. Nycomed
    Nycomed 26 August 2019 14: 36
    -1
    There, the whole island of Java is overpopulated. All wild animals have already died out there. sad
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 26 August 2019 15: 03
      +10
      Quote: Nycomed
      ... There are already all wild animals extinct. sad

      as practice shows - the wildest person turned out to be ..
  5. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 26 August 2019 14: 49
    0
    Somewhere it was ...
    Oh yes)))

    The capital automatically switches to Vasyuki. Vasyuki are renamed to New Moscow, Moscow - to Old Vasyuki!
  6. Cartalon
    Cartalon 26 August 2019 15: 05
    +1
    Hana orangutan, pichalka sad
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 27 August 2019 17: 00
      +1
      Quote: Cartalon
      Hana orangutan, pichalka sad

      Yes, there is an animal relocation program. Only here is whether the government will do this. In general, which island to relocate them to, that’s the question.
      By the way, not only orangutans will suffer from the transfer of the capital to Kalimantan, but also people --- DAYAKI! The local population, and militant. Centuries-old lifestyles are being deprived; in this case, a whole culture, a whole superethnos may perish ...
      1. Nycomed
        Nycomed 28 August 2019 05: 19
        -1
        Two subspecies of the tiger disappeared precisely in Indonesia: Javanese and Balinese. The Java rhino has disappeared. The fate of the Sumatran rhino, too, is under a very big question.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 28 August 2019 18: 45
          0
          Quote: Nycomed
          Two subspecies of the tiger disappeared precisely in Indonesia: Javanese and Balinese. The Java rhino has disappeared. The fate of the Sumatran rhino, too, is under a very big question.

          Yes, predators, like herbivores, especially large ones, need a very large territory to hunt and graze. Especially bad for endemic people.
          But, about the Javanese rhinoceros, it lives (lived) not only in Java, but also on other islands, as well as on the Asian continent! As well as Sumatran. I read this in the 7th volume "Animal Life", 6th volume (mammals). In general, in the current era there are 5 species of rhinoceros: in Africa 2 species (wide-faced and narrow-faced) and 3 in Asia and on the islands (Sumatran, Javanese and small). Perhaps this species has survived outside Java? We need to clarify.
  7. knn54
    knn54 26 August 2019 15: 05
    +6
    In 1957 Sukarno wanted to relocate the capital.
    The main thing is that the unique ecosystem of Borneo would not be harmed
  8. Galleon
    Galleon 26 August 2019 15: 08
    0
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    laterite glue soils

    What's this? Please explain. Curious by nature. what
  9. yehat
    yehat 26 August 2019 16: 00
    +4
    let's move the capital from MSC to Novosibirsk, otherwise it will be constantly threatened by Navalny bully
    1. Rzzz
      Rzzz 26 August 2019 20: 34
      +1
      It’s cold in Novosibirsk. At the star pychot, the glasses on the helmets will freeze, and they will not be able to protect Dimo-kratia.
      1. Nestorovich
        Nestorovich 27 August 2019 02: 10
        0
        Quote: rzzz
        It’s cold in Novosibirsk. At the star pychot, the glasses on the helmets will freeze, and they will not be able to protect Dimo-kratia.

        but the Guards will overcoat!