Yuzhnoye Design Bureau conducted fire tests of the Cyclone IV rocket stage with an 10-year delay

Ukrainian Design Bureau "Southern" reported on testing the stage of the launch vehicle. It is stated that this is the first in the newest stories Ukraine fire tests of the launch vehicle.

This is a Cyclone IV missile.

With pathos, the employees of the Yuzhnoye Design Bureau announced that they are dedicating the fire tests to the 28 anniversary of the "independence".

From the message of the design bureau:

For the first time in recent history, fire tests of the stage of the launch vehicle as a whole were carried out - the third stage of the middle-class launch vehicle Cyclone-4, designed by Yuzhny Design Bureau manufactured at Yuzhmash, was burned.

It is noted that the launch vehicle is designed to launch satellites into orbit.

If you believe the messages of the design bureau, then all the tests confirmed the inherent characteristics. The RD-861K engine of the launch vehicle stage was switched on five times. Now the design bureau is preparing to publish a detailed report on the progress and results of the fire tests of the Cyclone IV stage.

Also, the Design Bureau proudly announced that "they are actively cooperating with the United States of America" ​​on the issue of rocket science. Apparently, this is precisely what the main emphasis was on the day of the 28th anniversary of Ukrainian "independence".

Paphos of the design bureau was somewhat overshadowed by Ukrainian users, noting in the comments that even Wikipedia recalls the delay in launching this launch vehicle by Ukraine for about 9 years. The tests were supposed to be completed in the 2009 year - as a result, the delay in the test period was about 10 years.

Comments

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Everything is like a proverb. "They gave him a year, he served a year and a half and left" ahead of schedule "...

[hydrox]

Yes, how to say ...
They screwed up OUR space exploration program - apparently, they worked "for the Yankes." And if, in addition, Americans buy from the Cyclone-IV skakuas, then the secret will immediately become apparent and imagine HOW then the skippers will lift their nose high (well, of course, "we wash our socks ourselves" ...)

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: hydrox

Yes, how to say ...
They screwed up OUR space exploration program - apparently, they worked "for the Yankes." And if, in addition, the Americans buy Cyclone, then the secret will immediately become apparent ...

I do not argue. Our "brothers" have sold out completely.

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

I do not argue. Our "brothers" have sold out completely.

Unfortunately, the power in Ukraine is in the hands of completely different "brothers". They make decisions.
And OUR BROTHERS in Ukraine are just in trouble.

With pathos, the employees of the Yuzhnoye Design Bureau announced that they are dedicating the fire tests to the 28 anniversary of the "independence".

So everyone announces success with pathos. Especially since

If you believe the messages of the design bureau, then all the tests confirmed the inherent characteristics.

[Antares]

Quote: hydrox

They screwed up OUR space exploration program - apparently, they worked "under the Yankes"

so who is to blame then ..
Somewhere Rogozin and all the officials of Roscosmos sighed with relief ..
This Ukraine is to blame for everything ..
(supplies of equipment for space went on continuously - the RF consistently refused self-import substitution of minor materials did not play a big role)

The design of the Cyclone-4M rocket launcher is created according to a simple two-stage scheme and is based on the use of existing or already developed units and assemblies. This approach can significantly reduce development costs and time. The configuration of the first stage is based on the designs of the first stage of the Zenit LV and the main structure of the first stage of the Antares LV, which are mass-produced at Yuzhmash. She uses a kerosene-oxygen fuel pair. As the second stage of the Cyclone-4M, the third stage of the Cyclone-4 rocket launcher is used, which has been modified to provide autonomous refueling with high-boiling fuel components at a filling and neutralization station and subsequent amplification. The head unit of the Cyclone-4M rocket launcher is a modified GB of the Cyclone-4 rocket launcher. Development of a preliminary design of the Cyclone-4M ILV has already been completed.
At the launch facility in Nova Scotia, it is first intended to use only the middle-class Cyclone-4M launch vehicle developed by the KBYU and manufactured at Yuzhmash. But subsequently, from this cosmodrome it will be possible to launch launch vehicles of other types.
The Cyclone-4M project is purely commercial
a cosmodrome project in the Hazel Hill area of ​​the Canadian province of Nova Scotia near Kanso. The Cyclone-4M project to launch spacecraft from Canada has successfully passed an environmental review.

[dvina71]

Quote: Antares

This Ukraine is to blame for everything ..

Ukraine is not Russia.
Hero of Ukraine - ShUkhevich.
invented famine.
orange euromaidan and finally ..
maidan - We will never be brothers ..
and so yes .. Russia is guilty .. that in 2005 it stopped giving gas, and later demanded a fair price for it .. that is, arranged for both parties .., which is confirmed by the agreement.

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Quote: Antares

Quote: hydrox

They screwed up OUR space exploration program - apparently, they worked "under the Yankes"

so who is to blame then ..

Ukrainian-made components were installed on all our space rockets and satellites. This was the kind of cooperation that allowed their enterprises to develop. That's it. As a result, we lost an excellent conversion rocket with a low launch cost per kg - "Dnepr". The launches of a good conversion rocket "Rokot" have been practically stopped - the RB "Breeze-KM" has a control system from Hartron. The production of the Zenit medium missile has been completely stopped. The production of the Soyuz-FG medium rocket was discontinued.

But there is a silver lining - now our enterprises are already producing similar products. Although it was necessary to import dozens of equipment components from satellites.

[svp67]

Quote: slipped

The production of the Zenit medium missile has been completely stopped.

But its almost complete analogue, Soyuz-5, is being prepared for launch.

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Quote: svp67

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The production of the Zenit medium missile has been completely stopped.

But its almost complete analogue, Soyuz-5, is being prepared for launch.

Not yet preparing. Only the production of its tanks is being worked out and work is underway on its automation. In addition, the Irtysh (Soyuz-5) is not an analogue of Zenith. It is more powerful and modern. It has a different tank diameter and a control system from another manufacturer. Another second stage engine and head fairing. Newer powerful overclocking unit. Accordingly, it will take it from the Baikonur latitude to ~ low Earth orbit ~ 17 kg, and to the geo-transitional orbit ~ 000 kg. At Zenit-5500SLB, such characteristics were possible only from the equator, from the offshore platform. And the version of Union-3 for Sea Launch is planned even more interesting.

[svp67]

Quote: slipped

In addition, the Irtysh (Soyuz-5) is not an analogue of Zenith. It is more powerful and modern.

Yes, an analogue, at least a competitor. And who said that he should be "weaker and older"?

Quote: slipped

At Zenit-3SLБ such characteristics were possible only from the equator, from the offshore platform. And the version of the Union-5 for Sea Launch is planned even more interesting.

Well, it's not for nothing that Ukrainians "survived" from the "Sea Launch"

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Quote: svp67

Yes, an analogue, at least a competitor. And who said he should be "weaker and older"? "

A competitor with a rocket which is no longer? The picture is wrong. You have on the left an optional project "Soyuz-5" from the RCC "Progress" from 2016. And on the right, a proposal from the RKK is also of old shaggy.

In reality, here is:

[svp67]

Quote: slipped

In reality, here is:

Well, it is even more, outwardly "Zenith" resembles

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Quote: svp67

Quote: slipped

In reality, here is:

Well, it is even more, outwardly "Zenith" resembles

So it can be said that all missiles resemble each other. Zenith was thinner and the size of the steps he had was different. And the external similarity is due primarily to the launch tables, from which they plan to launch this rocket.

[svp67]

Quote: slipped

So it can be said that all missiles resemble each other.

Well, no ... the royal "seven", it is the only one and not repeatable ...

[Normal ok]

Quote: hydrox

And if, in addition, the Americans buy Cyclone IV from the skakuas, then the secret will immediately become apparent

I will add that Yuzhmash supplies the first stage for the American Antares.

[svp67]

Quote: Normal ok

I will add that Yuzhmash supplies the first stage for the American Antares.

Alas, you are wrong. Not the first step, but some of its components

The main task of Yuzhnoye Design Bureau is to develop and control the manufacture of fuel tanks, high pressure tanks, valves, sensors, fuel and power supply systems, pipes, wires and other related equipment at the Yuzhmash plant

And the engines at this stage are Russian, how would you like it to be unpleasant

[V1er]

Also, the Design Bureau proudly announced that "they are actively cooperating with the United States of America" ​​on the issue of rocket science. Apparently, this is precisely what the main emphasis was on the day of the 28th anniversary of Ukrainian "independence".

Everything was sold to the Americans, even souls.

[zlinn]

that's funny after all. Yuzhmash is working with the states so it's just that horror they sold everything, and Roscosmos is working so all is well and a reason for pride

[V1er]

No, I think this is also a surrender of interests. We contribute to the development of our enemy, no one will guarantee that these technologies are not used against us. Perhaps there is a motive for mutual development, we give them technology, and they give us money. But, money is a temporary and ending resource, and technology can destroy a country in a couple of minutes. It does not cost any money.

[U-58]

And who do you mean by the enemy?

[V1er]

In today's world, strong countries try to subjugate weak ones. This is a normal process. And if we surpass them in some way, we need to maintain this advantage. I would say that for Russia, any strong country is a hypothetical adversary. No need to be naive and believe in a good world for peace.

[U-58]

And that is true.
In space, right now everyone is collaborating with everyone.
And joking about personally Ukraine is at least strange ..
Well, it turns out they’re happy.
Yuzhmash did not make a trolleybus plant, too good.
People have work, ideas of technology do not die.
And here we have one more reason to think how to make a competitive technique and promote services instead of fostering Rogozin’s delirious ideas in the hangar he beloved ..

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Quote: U-58

And here we have one more reason to think how to make a competitive technique and promote services instead of fostering Rogozin’s delirious ideas in the hangar he beloved ..

Do not worry, the cost per kg of output from Soyuz-2 is quite low. Moreover, it continues to decline. And "Angara" will be an excellent rocket in its classes.

[U-58]

Since I have been working in the Roskosmos system for the fourth decade, I don’t really worry
It's just that the state of affairs "from the inside" is somewhat different from Rogozin's fervent statements.
And the imposition of the vector of development on them exclusively in the direction of "Angara" is not to the liking of many.
Even to Deputy Prime Minister Borisov, who last year twice publicly pulled the "chief on skeet"

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Quote: U-58

And the imposition of the vector of development on them exclusively in the direction of "Angara" is not to the liking of many.

Development vectors? "Angara" today is a missile of the Ministry of Defense. It has already been created, and no matter what you think of there, it will take their payload from Plesetsk. It is banal simply because all military launches from Baikonur have already been stopped. And from 2023, the payload from the Vostochny cosmodrome.

And tell me then, who has been working "for the fourth decade in the system" who imposes on the RCC "Progress" a methane carrier?

[U-58]

No one is imposing.
No engine, no carrier.
Voronezh residents for many years dealt with this topic at their own risk, peril and expense.
Now, when the UDRP has conquered Arbuzov, it turned out that he was developing the methane theme ......
By the way, very promising.
Well, and who is there specifically Progress annoying, I'm not in the subject.
Anyway, the fate of Progress will be happy.
Work can be seen for decades with kerosene, and methane and with hydrogen ...
But "Energy", against which Rogozin was incited by the same Arbuzov and Varochko, has somewhat uncertain development prospects.

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Quote: U-58

No one is imposing.
No engine, no carrier.

So the hundred-ton engine will soon be like TK on the carrier

Quote: U-58

Voronezh residents for many years dealt with this topic at their own risk, peril and expense.
Now, when the UDRP has conquered Arbuzov, it turned out that he was developing the methane theme ......
By the way, very promising.

"Angara" what has it to do with it? She has her own niche.

Quote: U-58

Well, and who is there specifically Progress annoying, I'm not in the subject.
Anyway, the fate of Progress will be happy.
Work can be seen for decades with kerosene, and methane and with hydrogen ...

With hydrogen - this CHC will work.

Quote: U-58

But "Energy", against which Rogozin was incited by the same Arbuzov and Varochko, has somewhat uncertain development prospects.

Energia must do what it can do well - a manned program. The ship and two modules hang on them with launch in the near future.

[U-58]

I read it.
You are all about the newspapers.
And the situation of last July in Energy is unknown to you.
You have learned well about the "niches" ...
And how soon do you promise a 100-ton engine?

[Thrifty]

The carrier rocket "CALLED" to launch satellites into orbit! In fact, they are drafted into the army! 》 Why didn't they write "UGOVORINA" to display satellites? ??

[mlad]

And where is the spaceport?

[Tusv]

Well done, of course, but the Brazilian contract has long been bye bye, Antares changed his shoes for RD-181.
What can I say, except for the words of Medvedev. Hold on

[Dietmar]

"Paramoga" and SUGS! Burned gravitsapu, another 20 years "nezalezhnost", and you can start the pepelats "

[Mountain shooter]

Despite the humor of the situation, it is worth noting that the tests have passed ... And this means that the Yuzhnoye design bureau has not completely collapsed, something is whole ... And this, I think, is bad ... Ideas may arise in the race. ..anything.

[delvin-fil]

Mdaaa ... In turned into a censor. It’s sad.

[Avior]

Unclear.
Looked at Wikipedia
On the one hand, it’s understandable why the Brazilian-Ukrainian project fell apart - the Iridium launches, which he was counting on, intercepted Musk, the Brazilians left the project, and without the cosmodrome, which was planned in Brazil, it’s clear that everything died out, Ukraine obviously has no money for it .
But further it is not clear.

. In March 2017, Yuzhnoye Design Bureau announced that it was developing a two-stage Cyclone-4M rocket, created on the basis of the Cyclone-4. The project will be financed by the Canadian company Maritime Launch Services. The spaceport will be located on the Atlantic coast of Canada. The planned term for putting the missile complex into trial operation is 2020.

The number of steps mixed up and Canadians with the Americans?
So why did they experience this third step and who pays for it, is Ukraine clearly incapable of this?
Or is it just self-promotion?

[Mixanchik]

They tested and sold the Chinese for vodka ...

[Ramadan]

Quote: zlinn

that's funny after all. Yuzhmash is working with the states so it's just that horror they sold everything, and Roscosmos is working so all is well and a reason for pride

I agree with you. After lunch on the couch, it’s easier to talk about who to collaborate with and what’s going on with the soul) And for ordinary employees (engineers, craftsmen, cleaners, all kinds of administrators, accountants, etc.) who don’t want to leave there is nothing corny to eat. And everyone has a family that needs to be provided. I’m sure that if Kiev is allowed to work with Russia, then tomorrow morning there would have been calls to Roscosmos with a proposal to resume at least some kind of cooperation. And so they’ll put him in prison.

[Zomanus]

Something tells me that on this topic with engines will be closed.

[Reading]

"The pathos of the design bureau was somewhat blurred by Ukrainian users"
Why even write about users. Knowing how many bots and trolls are sitting on topics right now, only an inexperienced reader will pay attention to users' opinions.
Yuzhnoye Design Bureau recently built a new workshop:

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Quote: Reading

Yuzhnoye Design Bureau recently built a new workshop

And what do we see in this video? The empty room. A pair of mock satellites. And ostapenderskih statements about 0,5m resolution. The phrase touched - and here we are preparing satellites which we then launch ... In our parallel reality. Their only companion is in stock in Russia.

[Old26]

Quote: Avior

The number of steps mixed up and Canadians with the Americans?

No. Launches planned precisely from the Canadian spaceport

[pafegosoff]

And how much technology did they sell to the DPRK?