Netherlands Army changes from Mercedes SUV to IVECO

The Dutch Ministry of Defense has decided to completely replace army SUVs. As transmits "Warspot" with reference to the armyrecognition.com portal, the Dutch armed forces will transfer from Mercedes to IVEKO.

The Netherlands military department has decided to purchase up to 1275 new LMV IVECO SUVs. It is planned that the cars will come in five trim levels, of which four are intended directly for the armed forces themselves, and one for the military police. According to reports, the army will go two types of SUVs with mounted combat modules, a medical evacuation vehicle and a pickup SUV. For the police, a separate version of the LMV IVECO will be supplied, which, of course, is not known.

Deliveries are scheduled to begin in the 2022 year, and the cars will be replaced by the current Mercedes-Benz 290 GD SUVs currently in service with the Dutch Army and Military Police.

Iveco LMV is an army multi-purpose armored car created by an Italian automobile company in 2001, taking into account the experience of operating similar vehicles during the conflict in the Balkans in the 90 years. The mass of the car in the basic configuration is up to 7 t, the maximum speed is 130 km / h, the power reserve is 600 km. It has mine protection capable of withstanding an explosion up to 6 kg of TNT. Armor hull protects the crew from small arms fire weapons calibers 5,56 and 7,62 mm, fragments of shells. It is possible to install additional armor.

Currently, Iveco LMV is in service with the armies of 15 countries, including Russia. Under the Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov, it was planned to adopt these off-road vehicles for the Russian Armed Forces under the name "Lynx". In total, it was planned at the first stage to purchase 1775 SUVs with procurement extension plans. However, later on, the Lynx was abandoned in favor of the Tiger.

Today, in the Russian army, Lynx armored vehicles are armed with sappers from the International Anti-Mine Center of the RF Armed Forces, the 98th Guards Airborne Division and military police units.

Comments

[Thrifty]

Let Mercedes play between top commentators I will not refuse such a machine.

[Svarog]

It can be seen that the price-quality ratio has become decisive in favor of IVECO, it would be good to voice the reasons.

[RUSS]

Quote: Svarog

It can be seen that the price-quality ratio has become decisive in favor of IVECO, it would be good to voice the reasons.

Rather, qualitatively, or rather protection, for example, in Syria IVECO (Lynx) autumn itself has proven itself well.

[sir.jonn]

Quote: RUSS

Quote: Svarog

It can be seen that the price-quality ratio has become decisive in favor of IVECO, it would be good to voice the reasons.

Rather, qualitatively, or rather protection, for example, in Syria IVECO (Lynx) autumn itself has proven itself well.

The lynx worked really well there . But here I have a question, which Effective manager from MO Guessed sending Tigers to Syria without reservation? Now their photo in evidence of the inferiority of our armored vehicles throughout the network put up. I would like to put him in this Tiger, and send him to the nursery of the barmaley.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Svarog

You can see the price-quality ratio

Rather, security.
Change a completely unprotected car to an armored car

[Observer2014]

Lopatov. And what did you notice seditious there? What do you think the difference is what the Dutch were going to ride on their war?

[svp67]

Quote: Observer2014

What do you think the difference is what the Dutch were going to ride on their war?

To know what to aim at and learn the silhouette in advance

[Lopatov]

Although on the other hand, an armored G-class also exists, the LAPV Enok is called


True, unlike the very common Italian, he did not gain much popularity, only the Bundeswehr and only 250 pieces

[Chaldon48]

Iveco under the name "Lynx" has proven itself well in Syria.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Thrifty

I will not refuse such a machine.

And how much does this "porridge eat"? Will it be possible to feed her at home?

[Megatron]

Serdyukov and already got there?)))

[Keyser soze]

Russians! Today is the anniversary of the Shipka fighting. Three days later, in August 1877, 3 100 Russian soldiers and officers and 858 Bulgarian militias died on the pass.

Today, at Shipka, celebrations begin and thousands and thousands of people will remember and honor the defenders of the pass there.

A blessed memory and eternal gratitude to the soldiers and officers of the Russian Imperial Army!

[Thrifty]

Thank you for your comment, only "yeti", aka "yeti", this is Bigfoot! Correct your text.

[sabakina]

Quote: Thrifty

Thank you for your comment, only "yeti", aka "yeti", this is Bigfoot! Correct your text.

He will fix it. He will definitely correct it as soon as he finds the letter "y" in his text. Beshbarmak? Kirgudu!

[AU Ivanov.]

Well, there is no letter "e" on the Bulgarian keyboard

[Honest Citizen]

Eugene.
The main thing is that their sacrifice would not be in vain.

[Zhan]

Nice to hear it, thanks ! And you long life and prosperity!

[sabakina]

Quote: Keyser Soze

Russians! Today is the anniversary of the Shipka fighting. A blessed memory and eternal gratitude to the soldiers and officers of the Russian Imperial Army!

Yes, it was ....

[serg.shishkov2015]

It was a business ,,, and both World Wars were allies of Germany ,,, I learned about this already in adulthood, it became very disappointing

[burigaz2010]

Quote: Keyser Soze

Russians! Today is the anniversary of the Shipka fighting. Three days later, in August 1877, 3 100 Russian soldiers and officers and 858 Bulgarian militias died on the pass.

Today, at Shipka, celebrations begin and thousands and thousands of people will remember and honor the defenders of the pass there.

A blessed memory and eternal gratitude to the soldiers and officers of the Russian Imperial Army!

I didn’t even know! If you celebrate then thank you we have long forgotten this holiday! Glory to all the fallen Russian soldiers!

[Keyser soze]

I didn’t even know! If you celebrate then thank you we have long forgotten this holiday!

Celebrate twice a year - today and 3 on March. President, guard, tens of thousands of citizens.

[Nycomed]

Bright memory! Do not forget to remind the "brothers" about this.

[cat Rusich]

October 14, 1915 Bulgaria enters the 1st World War on the side of TURKEY, Germany, Austria-Hungary. In the 2nd World War Bulgaria on the side of the Axis ". Now Bulgaria is in NATO ... Let us recall the "South Stream", which has sunk into oblivion, because of Bulgaria (on the first call from the USA). "Gratitude" and "gratitude" to Bulgaria "knows no boundaries" ...

[aszzz888]

Netherlands Army changes from Mercedes SUV to IVECO

Moved on the side of the Germans, however.

[APASUS]

As I understand it, the Mercedes-Benz 290 GD has already exhausted its resource, and the conditions of use have changed, for modern combat the protection is already weak

[sabakina]

Turkey And with whom should they fight? Or did they get partisans? So dust them, dust! First they will scare themselves, then everyone else. Would have smoked slowly and did not rock the boat ...

[APASUS]

Quote: sabakina

Pavo And with whom should they fight?

Well, they are under the general trend of the fight against terrorism, they are participating in all of NATO’s troubles. Where they save from terrorists, where they themselves act as terrorists, but this is not so important. Papa thinks for them in Washington, where they will fight ..... ...............

[Graz]

since the geldings were probably already old and not armored and without mine protection, and since it seems like in Europe this is a good compromise in price and quality for the Dutch

[Mountain shooter]

They don’t have snow there either. They can

[svp67]

It has mine protection capable of withstanding an explosion up to 6 kg of TNT.

Yes, in Syria they proved it, than they saved more than one life

[sabakina]

Sergey, this is in Syria. Or barmalei aimed at the Netherlands? So you don’t seem to run in slippers ...

[svp67]

Quote: sabakina

Or barmalei aimed at the Netherlands?

Then the main thing is where the Netherlands set their sights on? Maybe she decided to accept the US challenge and go to Afghanistan ...

[Mixanchik]

Nevertheless, these iveko pushed through ..))) Well, let them ride on the asphalt .. But we did not pass the glory of God .. But then I remember how they were praised ..! It is impossible for Russia to use imported military equipment .. Do not understand the people and may plummet!
Here "Tigers" is immediately clear who is in control of the situation ..

[Lopatov]

Quote: Mixanchik

And our glory to God did not pass ..

Hooray!.
And Deripaska didn’t get a dime from Iveco. “The people won’t understand and may bang!” (from)

After all, the lack of protection against mines is much better than its presence, is not it?

Fortunately, the crew of this car was not driving the "Tiger"

[Graz]

Shovels, foreign equipment should not be put into service, as the country becomes dependent on deliveries, which at any moment can be cut off with the Mistrals, so no matter how good the foreign equipment is, and no matter what brand and excellent performance characteristics, the army will be armed it should not be accepted, the maximum is the purchase of several samples for disassembly. studying and applying this experience on their combat vehicles

[Mixanchik]

Quote: Graz

Shovels, foreign equipment should not be put into service, as the country becomes dependent on supplies, which at any time can be blocked as with the Mistrals,

I’ve been rubbing this Lopatov for a long time, but he and the professor sniffed, and now, right in ecstasy from everything imported .... (dude disappeared)))

[svp67]

Quote: Graz

Shovels, foreign equipment should not be put into service, as the country becomes dependent

It depends on how you set ...

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Graz

foreign equipment should not be put into service, as the country becomes dependent on supplies

in this case, for the same reason, military equipment should not include foreign components. Name at least a couple of domestic samples where there are no foreign nodes?
Are you aware that YaMZ of modern models come with Boshevsky fuel equipment and controllers?
You look at the KAMAZ Typhoons - even a non-specialist can see imported (Italian) lighting equipment, and if you look under the hood or under the bottom, and there you will find a lot of things "not native"

[Alex_You]

I remember the crosshead could not move.

[Mixanchik]

Quote: Alex_You

I remember the crosshead could not move.

And what else is remembered?

Quote: Spade

Hooray!.
And Deripaska didn’t get a dime from Iveco. “The people won’t understand and may bang!” (from)
After all, the lack of protection against mines is much better than its presence, is not it?

It’s better to be without protection than to ride in an import in the Army ..
I understand you Lopatov, supposedly a foreign one is quality and all that .... But they won’t fight, but they will deliver weapons to us .. (like kill each other, and we’ll start shooting)
I've seen this "Iveko" on an RPG in the scope ..
It was here that a professor in 2013 advertised Western armament, now you Lopatov are looking at this? I did not expect from you ..

[Danil Kartushin]

I saw the guys in the unit, they blame him, and almost no one undertakes repair

[Galleon]

Quote: Mixanchik

It’s better to be without protection than to ride in an import in the Army ..

For this one phrase I want for the scruff of the neck, and for the contract where they shoot. As the pants are removed once, you can return to a peaceful life.
Well, if you are old, give up and turn your hand away, even if there is a military son. I don’t wish such a test for the children, just one dad is enough from them.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

And Russia needs the same vehicles with mine protection.

The tiger holds only the F-1 grenade under the bottom, in the new version of the Tiger-2 2 kg of TNT, and the anti-tank mine has 6-7 kg of TNT.

The same Lynx in Syria showed itself well. Here are the cars we need. Riding a reconnaissance mine on armored SUVs like that is easy and simple, if it is on the Tigers, all are dead, and in Lynx the probability of survival is an order of magnitude higher.

[Zaurbek]

Mercedes also imagined a similar car with a front from Gelik and a lot of PR.

[Catfish]

The Dutch army is changing from one pot to another, and both pot manufacturers have their own pot acceptance and removal businesses. The whole question is in the toilet paper, if you leave the old one, then the "rearmament of the pots" will be painless, but if you buy pipifax with digital processing, then their government will have to introduce a tax for all informals, and a new "pension reform" for the rest of the people. But this is about politics, and for the rest: Nieder will change to another armor, or does not want to, nobody cares about this issue. I'm not talking about Russia and, moreover, not about Poland , I am about the history of World War II.

[saygon66]

- "Gelendvagen" was not the best basis for modifications. Narrow base, high body - lay on its side. The suspension did not support the weight of the booking. The Canadians put a "doghouse" on it - when it fell on its side, it was torn off the shoulder strap and crippled the machine gunner.

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[Maxwrx]

Iveco and tiger are different cars for different warriors.
Iveco - an armored SUV with mine protection.
Tiger or Hammer for example - an armored SUV WITHOUT mine protection

Anti-tank mines that are installed by the army can not stand a single armored car
And land mines are set by partisans, terrorists, etc. Those. war of a completely different intensity.

Installing mine protection slightly affects the performance of the car and increases its cost by 1,5-2 times. The cost of a hummer is about 220 thousand $ and the Oshkosh L-ATV which replaces it (with mine protection) costs 400 thousand.

Considering that we didn’t have armored vehicles in this class, but had to be replaced en masse, I consider the purchase of the Tiger to be completely relevant and justified. It is better to have 1500-2000 tigers than 1000 ivek. But now you need to have a certain number of armored cars with mine protection for conditional Syria. It is advisable to fully unify the motor, parts, etc.