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Netherlands Army changes from Mercedes SUV to IVECO

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The Dutch Ministry of Defense has decided to completely replace army SUVs. As transmits "Warspot" with reference to the armyrecognition.com portal, the Dutch armed forces will transfer from Mercedes to IVEKO.


Netherlands Army changes from Mercedes SUV to IVECO


The Netherlands military department has decided to purchase up to 1275 new LMV IVECO SUVs. It is planned that the cars will come in five trim levels, of which four are intended directly for the armed forces themselves, and one for the military police. According to reports, the army will go two types of SUVs with mounted combat modules, a medical evacuation vehicle and a pickup SUV. For the police, a separate version of the LMV IVECO will be supplied, which, of course, is not known.

Deliveries are scheduled to begin in the 2022 year, and the cars will be replaced by the current Mercedes-Benz 290 GD SUVs currently in service with the Dutch Army and Military Police.

Iveco LMV is an army multi-purpose armored car created by an Italian automobile company in 2001, taking into account the experience of operating similar vehicles during the conflict in the Balkans in the 90 years. The mass of the car in the basic configuration is up to 7 t, the maximum speed is 130 km / h, the power reserve is 600 km. It has mine protection capable of withstanding an explosion up to 6 kg of TNT. Armor hull protects the crew from small arms fire weapons calibers 5,56 and 7,62 mm, fragments of shells. It is possible to install additional armor.

Currently, Iveco LMV is in service with the armies of 15 countries, including Russia. Under the Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov, it was planned to adopt these off-road vehicles for the Russian Armed Forces under the name "Lynx". In total, it was planned at the first stage to purchase 1775 SUVs with procurement extension plans. However, later on, the Lynx was abandoned in favor of the Tiger.

Today, in the Russian army, Lynx armored vehicles are armed with sappers from the International Anti-Mine Center of the RF Armed Forces, the 98th Guards Airborne Division and military police units.
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  1. Thrifty
    Thrifty 24 August 2019 11: 04
    +2
    Let Mercedes play between top commentators hi I will not refuse such a machine.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 24 August 2019 11: 07
      0
      It can be seen that the price-quality ratio has become decisive in favor of IVECO, it would be good to voice the reasons.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 24 August 2019 11: 11
        +9
        Quote: Svarog
        It can be seen that the price-quality ratio has become decisive in favor of IVECO, it would be good to voice the reasons.

        Rather, qualitatively, or rather protection, for example, in Syria IVECO (Lynx) autumn itself has proven itself well.
        1. sir.jonn
          sir.jonn 24 August 2019 18: 20
          0
          Quote: RUSS
          Quote: Svarog
          It can be seen that the price-quality ratio has become decisive in favor of IVECO, it would be good to voice the reasons.

          Rather, qualitatively, or rather protection, for example, in Syria IVECO (Lynx) autumn itself has proven itself well.

          The lynx worked really well there good . But here I have a question, which Effective manager from MO Guessed sending Tigers to Syria without reservation? Now their photo in evidence of the inferiority of our armored vehicles throughout the network put up. I would like to put him in this Tiger, and send him to the nursery of the barmaley.
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 24 August 2019 11: 20
        +9
        Quote: Svarog
        You can see the price-quality ratio

        Rather, security.
        Change a completely unprotected car to an armored car
        1. Observer2014
          Observer2014 24 August 2019 11: 59
          -8
          Lopatov. And what did you notice seditious there? What do you think the difference is what the Dutch were going to ride on their war?
          1. svp67
            svp67 24 August 2019 12: 10
            0
            Quote: Observer2014
            What do you think the difference is what the Dutch were going to ride on their war?

            To know what to aim at and learn the silhouette in advance
      3. Lopatov
        Lopatov 24 August 2019 11: 30
        +7
        Although on the other hand, an armored G-class also exists, the LAPV Enok is called


        True, unlike the very common Italian, he did not gain much popularity, only the Bundeswehr and only 250 pieces
      4. Chaldon48
        Chaldon48 24 August 2019 12: 46
        0
        Iveco under the name "Lynx" has proven itself well in Syria.
    2. The comment was deleted.
    3. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 24 August 2019 14: 44
      0
      Quote: Thrifty
      I will not refuse such a machine.

      And how much does this "porridge eat"? Will it be possible to feed her at home?
    4. Megatron
      Megatron 24 August 2019 16: 13
      -3
      Serdyukov and already got there?)))
  2. Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 24 August 2019 11: 05
    +39
    Russians! Today is the anniversary of the Shipka fighting. Three days later, in August 1877, 3 100 Russian soldiers and officers and 858 Bulgarian militias died on the pass.

    Today, at Shipka, celebrations begin and thousands and thousands of people will remember and honor the defenders of the pass there.

    A blessed memory and eternal gratitude to the soldiers and officers of the Russian Imperial Army!
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 24 August 2019 11: 11
      -9
      Thank you for your comment, only "yeti", aka "yeti", this is Bigfoot! Correct your text. hi
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 24 August 2019 12: 06
        -1
        Quote: Thrifty
        Thank you for your comment, only "yeti", aka "yeti", this is Bigfoot! Correct your text. hi

        He will fix it. He will definitely correct it as soon as he finds the letter "y" in his text. Beshbarmak? Kirgudu!
      2. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 24 August 2019 21: 17
        +2
        Well, there is no letter "e" on the Bulgarian keyboard
    2. Honest Citizen
      Honest Citizen 24 August 2019 11: 12
      +3
      Eugene.
      The main thing is that their sacrifice would not be in vain.
    3. Zhan
      Zhan 24 August 2019 11: 29
      +3
      hi Nice to hear it, thanks ! And you long life and prosperity!
    4. sabakina
      sabakina 24 August 2019 13: 26
      0
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      Russians! Today is the anniversary of the Shipka fighting. A blessed memory and eternal gratitude to the soldiers and officers of the Russian Imperial Army!

      Yes, it was ....
      1. serg.shishkov2015
        serg.shishkov2015 24 August 2019 13: 33
        +1
        It was a business ,,, and both World Wars were allies of Germany ,,, I learned about this already in adulthood, it became very disappointing
    5. burigaz2010
      burigaz2010 24 August 2019 13: 32
      +1
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      Russians! Today is the anniversary of the Shipka fighting. Three days later, in August 1877, 3 100 Russian soldiers and officers and 858 Bulgarian militias died on the pass.

      Today, at Shipka, celebrations begin and thousands and thousands of people will remember and honor the defenders of the pass there.

      A blessed memory and eternal gratitude to the soldiers and officers of the Russian Imperial Army!

      I didn’t even know! If you celebrate then thank you we have long forgotten this holiday! Glory to all the fallen Russian soldiers!
      1. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 24 August 2019 18: 14
        +2
        I didn’t even know! If you celebrate then thank you we have long forgotten this holiday!


        Celebrate twice a year - today and 3 on March. President, guard, tens of thousands of citizens.
    6. Nycomed
      Nycomed 24 August 2019 15: 26
      -3
      Bright memory! Do not forget to remind the "brothers" about this. request
    7. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich 24 August 2019 23: 07
      0
      October 14, 1915 Bulgaria enters the 1st World War on the side of TURKEY, Germany, Austria-Hungary. In the 2nd World War Bulgaria on the side of the Axis am ". Now Bulgaria is in NATO angry ... Let us recall the "South Stream", which has sunk into oblivion, because of Bulgaria (on the first call from the USA). "Gratitude" and "gratitude" to Bulgaria "knows no boundaries" ...
  3. aszzz888
    aszzz888 24 August 2019 11: 12
    +2
    Netherlands Army changes from Mercedes SUV to IVECO
    Moved on the side of the Germans, however. request
  4. APASUS
    APASUS 24 August 2019 11: 17
    +1
    As I understand it, the Mercedes-Benz 290 GD has already exhausted its resource, and the conditions of use have changed, for modern combat the protection is already weak

    1. sabakina
      sabakina 24 August 2019 12: 14
      -1
      Turkey hi And with whom should they fight? Or did they get partisans? So dust them, dust! First they will scare themselves, then everyone else. Would have smoked slowly and did not rock the boat ...
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 24 August 2019 12: 20
        0
        Quote: sabakina
        Pavo And with whom should they fight?

        Well, they are under the general trend of the fight against terrorism, they are participating in all of NATO’s troubles. Where they save from terrorists, where they themselves act as terrorists, but this is not so important. Papa thinks for them in Washington, where they will fight ..... ...............
  5. Graz
    Graz 24 August 2019 11: 19
    -1
    since the geldings were probably already old and not armored and without mine protection, and since it seems like in Europe this is a good compromise in price and quality for the Dutch
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 24 August 2019 11: 20
    -3
    They don’t have snow there either. They can laughing
  7. svp67
    svp67 24 August 2019 11: 23
    +1
    It has mine protection capable of withstanding an explosion up to 6 kg of TNT.
    Yes, in Syria they proved it, than they saved more than one life
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 24 August 2019 12: 19
      -1
      Sergey, this is in Syria. Or barmalei aimed at the Netherlands? So you don’t seem to run in slippers ...
      1. svp67
        svp67 24 August 2019 12: 22
        +1
        Quote: sabakina
        Or barmalei aimed at the Netherlands?

        Then the main thing is where the Netherlands set their sights on? Maybe she decided to accept the US challenge and go to Afghanistan ...
  8. Mixanchik
    Mixanchik 24 August 2019 11: 49
    -3
    Nevertheless, these iveko pushed through ..))) Well, let them ride on the asphalt .. But we did not pass the glory of God .. But then I remember how they were praised ..! It is impossible for Russia to use imported military equipment .. Do not understand the people and may plummet!
    Here "Tigers" is immediately clear who is in control of the situation .. soldier
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 24 August 2019 12: 30
      +5
      Quote: Mixanchik
      And our glory to God did not pass ..

      Hooray!.
      And Deripaska didn’t get a dime from Iveco. “The people won’t understand and may bang!” (from)

      After all, the lack of protection against mines is much better than its presence, is not it?

      Fortunately, the crew of this car was not driving the "Tiger"
      1. Graz
        Graz 24 August 2019 14: 09
        -2
        Shovels, foreign equipment should not be put into service, as the country becomes dependent on deliveries, which at any moment can be cut off with the Mistrals, so no matter how good the foreign equipment is, and no matter what brand and excellent performance characteristics, the army will be armed it should not be accepted, the maximum is the purchase of several samples for disassembly. studying and applying this experience on their combat vehicles
        1. Mixanchik
          Mixanchik 24 August 2019 14: 35
          -6
          Quote: Graz
          Shovels, foreign equipment should not be put into service, as the country becomes dependent on supplies, which at any time can be blocked as with the Mistrals,

          I’ve been rubbing this Lopatov for a long time, but he and the professor sniffed, and now, right in ecstasy from everything imported .... (dude disappeared))) hi
        2. svp67
          svp67 24 August 2019 15: 00
          +3
          Quote: Graz
          Shovels, foreign equipment should not be put into service, as the country becomes dependent

          It depends on how you set ...








        3. Grigory_45
          Grigory_45 25 August 2019 13: 13
          -3
          Quote: Graz
          foreign equipment should not be put into service, as the country becomes dependent on supplies

          in this case, for the same reason, military equipment should not include foreign components. Name at least a couple of domestic samples where there are no foreign nodes?
          Are you aware that YaMZ of modern models come with Boshevsky fuel equipment and controllers?
          You look at the KAMAZ Typhoons - even a non-specialist can see imported (Italian) lighting equipment, and if you look under the hood or under the bottom, and there you will find a lot of things "not native"
    2. Alex_You
      Alex_You 24 August 2019 12: 59
      -2
      I remember the crosshead could not move.
      1. Mixanchik
        Mixanchik 24 August 2019 13: 54
        -9
        Quote: Alex_You
        I remember the crosshead could not move.

        And what else is remembered?
        Quote: Spade
        Hooray!.
        And Deripaska didn’t get a dime from Iveco. “The people won’t understand and may bang!” (from)
        After all, the lack of protection against mines is much better than its presence, is not it?

        It’s better to be without protection than to ride in an import in the Army ..
        I understand you Lopatov, supposedly a foreign one is quality and all that .... But they won’t fight, but they will deliver weapons to us .. (like kill each other, and we’ll start shooting)
        I've seen this "Iveko" on an RPG in the scope .. hi
        It was here that a professor in 2013 advertised Western armament, now you Lopatov are looking at this? I did not expect from you .. negative
  9. Danil Kartushin
    Danil Kartushin 24 August 2019 13: 22
    -1
    I saw the guys in the unit, they blame him, and almost no one undertakes repair
  10. Galleon
    Galleon 24 August 2019 15: 59
    +2
    Quote: Mixanchik
    It’s better to be without protection than to ride in an import in the Army ..

    For this one phrase I want for the scruff of the neck, and for the contract where they shoot. As the pants are removed once, you can return to a peaceful life.
    Well, if you are old, give up and turn your hand away, even if there is a military son. I don’t wish such a test for the children, just one dad is enough from them.
  11. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 24 August 2019 17: 57
    -1
    And Russia needs the same vehicles with mine protection.

    The tiger holds only the F-1 grenade under the bottom, in the new version of the Tiger-2 2 kg of TNT, and the anti-tank mine has 6-7 kg of TNT.

    The same Lynx in Syria showed itself well. Here are the cars we need. Riding a reconnaissance mine on armored SUVs like that is easy and simple, if it is on the Tigers, all are dead, and in Lynx the probability of survival is an order of magnitude higher.
  12. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 24 August 2019 21: 38
    0
    Mercedes also imagined a similar car with a front from Gelik and a lot of PR.
  13. Catfish
    Catfish 24 August 2019 22: 10
    0
    The Dutch army is changing from one pot to another, and both pot manufacturers have their own pot acceptance and removal businesses. The whole question is in the toilet paper, if you leave the old one, then the "rearmament of the pots" will be painless, but if you buy pipifax with digital processing, then their government will have to introduce a tax for all informals, and a new "pension reform" for the rest of the people. But this is about politics, and for the rest: Nieder will change to another armor, or does not want to, nobody cares about this issue. I'm not talking about Russia and, moreover, not about Poland laughing , I am about the history of World War II.
  14. saygon66
    saygon66 25 August 2019 20: 13
    0
    - "Gelendvagen" was not the best basis for modifications. Narrow base, high body - lay on its side. The suspension did not support the weight of the booking. The Canadians put a "doghouse" on it - when it fell on its side, it was torn off the shoulder strap and crippled the machine gunner.

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  15. Maxwrx
    Maxwrx 26 August 2019 21: 10
    0
    Iveco and tiger are different cars for different warriors.
    Iveco - an armored SUV with mine protection.
    Tiger or Hammer for example - an armored SUV WITHOUT mine protection

    Anti-tank mines that are installed by the army can not stand a single armored car
    And land mines are set by partisans, terrorists, etc. Those. war of a completely different intensity.

    Installing mine protection slightly affects the performance of the car and increases its cost by 1,5-2 times. The cost of a hummer is about 220 thousand $ and the Oshkosh L-ATV which replaces it (with mine protection) costs 400 thousand.

    Considering that we didn’t have armored vehicles in this class, but had to be replaced en masse, I consider the purchase of the Tiger to be completely relevant and justified. It is better to have 1500-2000 tigers than 1000 ivek. But now you need to have a certain number of armored cars with mine protection for conditional Syria. It is advisable to fully unify the motor, parts, etc.