NASA explains the reason for the unsuccessful docking of the MS-14 Union to the ISS

The reason for the unsuccessful docking of the Soyuz MS-14 manned spacecraft with the ISS was problems with the amplifier of the Kurs automatic docking system located on board the ISS. This was reported in NASA during the broadcast of the dock.

The US National Aeronautics and Space Administration explained that there were no technical problems with the Soyuz MS-14 manned spacecraft; the reason for the unsuccessful docking was the malfunction of the Kurs automatic docking system amplifier, which is located onboard the ISS. At the same time, astronauts from the station cannot manually dock the Soyuz MS-14, since it is manned and it does not have a spare teleoperator control system that is installed on Progress cargo ships.

This is not a problem with the Soyuz spacecraft, but with the amplifier of the Kurs system on board the station. The ship cannot be docked in manual mode, since this system is not installed on the Soyuz MS-14 ship, since this is a manned version of the ship without crew on board

- explained in NASA.

Meanwhile, it is reported that the MCC will transmit to the ISS instructions for replacing the docking system amplifier. According to preliminary information, the following attempts to dock the MS-14 Union with the station can be made on Sunday or Monday. Details are not reported.

At the same time, it is reported that a meeting is currently being held at the MCC in connection with the failed connection so far. The arrival of the head of Roskosmos Dmitry Rogozin is expected.

The Soyuz MS-14 transport ship is located at a distance from the ISS. Docking is planned for the backup date. Nothing threatens the safety of the station and crew

- says the message of the Russian Space Agency.

Earlier it was reported that the Soyuz MS-14 manned spacecraft with the FEDOR robot on board was not able to dock with the ISS at the first attempt. Currently, it is allotted from the station to a safe distance.

Comments

[svp67]

Well, God forbid, that would be so. And most importantly, it was possible to quickly fix the malfunction

[Mixanchik]

Quote: svp67

Well, God forbid, that would be so. And most importantly, it was possible to quickly fix the malfunction

Most likely Sergey, they do not want to let OUR "Fedor" into the ISS .. After all, he knows how to shoot cowboy with two hands !!! I think swearing can also be in the right situation ..

[Tatyana]

The reason for the unsuccessful docking of the Soyuz MS-14 manned spacecraft with the ISS was problems with the amplifier of the Kurs automatic docking system located on board the ISS.

Well, okay, that at least the peasant "Fedya" aboard the Soyuz MS-14 did not let the Russian spacecraft dock with the ISS!

Let's hope that the cosmonauts and the Control Center on Earth will correct the miscalculations in the ISS operation, and Fedya will dock with the ISS.

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: Tatiana

The control center on Earth will nevertheless correct miscalculations in the operation of the ISS.

I wonder why NASA gave an explanation for the failure of the docking of our spacecraft with our own block on the ISS, we already control nothing there?

[Tatyana]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

I wonder why NASA gave an explanation for the failure of the docking of our spacecraft with our own block on the ISS, we already control nothing there?

Ha! Well, so an American female astronaut didn’t just drill holes in a Russian compartment on the Russian ISS in a wall!

[Pedrodepackes]

And she

Quote: Tatiana

drilled holes in the wall?

I read about diapers and holes here, but I think it's still humor

[Tatyana]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

I read about diapers and holes here, but I think it's still humor

What kind of humor ?! Sarcasm!

Humor humor, but with a female astronaut it was! Compared to men, women have a different physiology and a different psyche! You won’t get anywhere from this! Plus consumer education among US citizens! Here is an American and broke!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

but I think it's still humor

But what kind of humor is there, they searched for this hole on the air, there was a leak. However, they are unlikely to tell us who drilled.

[Mixanchik]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Quote: Pedrodepackes

but I think it's still humor

But what kind of humor is there, they searched for this hole on the air, there was a leak. However, they are unlikely to tell us who drilled.

Well, if our drilled, then it would be for years of showdown))) After all, right?
The Kursk nuclear submarine was quickly hushed up .. For example, it's their own fault ..

Quote: Pedrodepackes

And she

Quote: Tatiana

drilled holes in the wall?

I read about diapers and holes here, but I think it's still humor

Unfortunately, this was not humor, but a specific provocation, by the American crew .. Sniffing your shit, I’m tired you see ..

[Pedrodepackes]

about humor I'm not talking about that

Quote: Mordvin 3

searched for this hole live

I'm about it

Quote: Mordvin 3

they’ll hardly tell us who drilled

[Letun]

Quote: Mordvin 3

However, they are unlikely to tell us who drilled.

Well, of course, over there Tatyana has already been informed that the "American woman astronaut" has checked

[Shahno]

Yes. This can only be trusted with a woman. Fine work ..

[voyaka uh]

Not only drilled, but then managed to seal with sealant outside
between two skins.

[boss]

and most importantly, they didn’t find the 'little bit'
waiting for new holes!

[SOF]

Quote: voyaka uh

sealant outside
between two skins

.... fu ... what nonsense ....

[lucul]

Ha! Well, so an American female astronaut didn’t just drill holes in a Russian compartment on the Russian ISS in a wall!

Yes, a hundred pounds from THEIR side, a trick.
Russian robot, and even an android, and even on the ISS, and not from Elon Mask - the western citizen will have a pattern gap.
So they try not to let the robot to the ISS by any means. )))

[Mixanchik]

Quote: lucul

Yes, a hundred pounds from THEIR side, a trick.
Russian robot, and even an android, and even on the ISS, and not from Elon Mask - the western citizen will have a pattern gap.
So they try not to let the robot to the ISS by any means. )))

Arguing in the right direction .. No wonder there is such a minus rating .. hehe
If they don’t join, FEDOR will get to the ISS anyway! !!! Russians do not give up!

[Shahno]

Well, you are so steamed. NASA there in orbit astronauts present. In such a confined space there are all friends. Wait for ours soon, already in the process. That will be fun ...

[Old Michael]

such a minus rating is coming ..

There are some miracles with the minuses today. Here, Tatyana, for example, they threw a shovel in all branches. Maybe there are some anomalies in the sun? ..

[Harry.km]

Quote: Mixanchik

If they don’t join, FEDOR will get to the ISS anyway! !!!

Swim?))))))

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

I wonder why NASA gave an explanation for the failure of the docking of our spacecraft with our own block on the ISS, we already control nothing there?

Well, that’s an interesting question. In another thread on this topic, one comrade commented on the failure itself due to the lack of its entire microelectronics elemental base. We have to agree with this in the light of recent publications on hardware bookmarks in imported chips and processors.

[Minato2020]

Quote: Starover_Z

... We can only agree with this in the light of recent publications on hardware bookmarks in imported chips and processors.

Articles were published on the topic of bookmarks in Boeing type aircraft.
Bookmarks in the space industry have not yet been written.

[RUSS]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

Quote: Tatiana

The control center on Earth will nevertheless correct miscalculations in the operation of the ISS.

I wonder why NASA gave an explanation for the failure of the docking of our spacecraft with our own block on the ISS, we already control nothing there?

NASA Managed by the ISS

[Blackmokona]

Because NASA is openly talking about successes and failures, and Rosskosmos is silent about its problems in every way. It would be a purely Russian station, we would announce that everything is going according to plan.

[lucul]

Because NASA openly talks about successes and failures,

Naturally - they themselves suit them.
Loudest of all - HOLD THE THIEF - usually the thief himself screams ....

[Infinity]

I'm sorry, of course, that I interfere, but the station international, and control is not only our MCC, broadcasts and statements are also made not only by us.
As for the broadcast, I agree with Blackmokona... You know, I still have a sediment from how it was organized on October 11, 2018, when the LV accident with the Soyuz MS-10 occurred. When Alexey Ovchinin announced the rocket accident, the presenter, apparently not understanding what was happening, began to talk some kind of nonsense about the assembled observers, and then the broadcast was simply turned off! What is happening there, whether the SAS worked normally, and so on ... Just no words ... But in NASA, the broadcast was not turned off and remained in touch.

[Nychego]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

I wonder why NASA gave an explanation for the failure of the docking of our spacecraft with our own block on the ISS, we already control nothing there?

It’s just that they have no reason to be silent as much as the Russian side.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Tatiana

Let's hope that the cosmonauts and the Control Center on Earth will correct the miscalculations in the ISS operation, and Fedya will dock with the ISS.

The arrival of the head of Roskosmos Dmitry Rogozin is expected.

He quickly and docked.

[AUL]

Quote: Tatiana

Let's hope that the cosmonauts and the Control Center on Earth will correct the miscalculations in the ISS operation, and Fedya will dock with the ISS.

Well, they’re waiting for Rogozin at the MCC. He will come and fix everything at once!

[Cat man null]

Quote: AUL

Well, they’re waiting for Rogozin at the MCC

On Energy. Enegria has the 26 day of jam.

Quote: AUL

He will come and fix everything at once

That is - "I have not read, but I condemn" (c).

- problems on the side of the Americans, which NASA honestly reported
- "repair", respectively, will be the Americans. Under the strict guidance
- And where, it would seem, is Rogozin here?

[Harry.km]

Quote: Cat Man Null

- And where, it would seem, is Rogozin here?

And Rogozin has already congratulated "Fedor" on the beginning of work ...
https://twitter.com/Rogozin/status/1164404097174384640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1164404675216629760&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeduza.io%2Fshapito%2F2019%2F08%2F23%2Frobot-fedor-stal-glavnym-povodom-dlya-gordosti-v-rossiyskih-smi-nastoyaschie-novosti-o-nem-nevozmozhno-otlichit-ot-feykovyh

-What happened to be Cat Man Null?

[9griffon]

drinks vodka? playing a balalaika?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: 9griffon

drinks vodka? playing a balalaika?

Are you really so little interested in the rest of Fedya's functionality? However, your interest is very limited!

[Voyager]

Great idea for a sci-fi horror movie about the terminator on the ISS. They brought a robot, and he let's crush everyone there.

[Mixanchik]

Quote: Voyager

Great idea for a sci-fi horror movie about the terminator on the ISS. They brought a robot, and he let's crush everyone there.

Will not crumble, but the anthem of the USSR can make singing in unison at exactly 8 am .. !!!!
Otherwise, it will be ..)))) Joke !!!

I will intimidate the "public" now ... Generally does not fit ..

[lis-ik]

Quote: Voyager

Great idea for a sci-fi horror movie about the terminator on the ISS. They brought a robot, and he let's crush everyone there.

A. Ivanov has a not bad detective novel about the ISS, called "9 Little Indians", I highly recommend reading. Written with humor.

[voyaka uh]

Fedor earned at full capacity his artificial intelligence.
Thinks: "Well, his nafig, this automation! This is the past.
Now our era is robots. "
And - the helm on yourself!

[Voyager]

Down with the laws of Azimov!

[voyaka uh]

Fedor:
"Why should we live according to the laws given by Adam and Eve?
We - robots - will drive the nag of history! Left, left, left! "

[Mixanchik]

Quote: voyaka uh

Fedor:
"Why should we live according to the laws given by Adam and Eve?
We - robots - will drive the nag of history! Left, left, left! "

Forward to the world revolution, and Russia is firewood .. So your Trotsky and others proclaimed ..?

[WILL]

EPROST ... Return Fedor - launch Rogozin!

[loki565]

EPROST ... Return Fedor - launch Rogozin! belay

Better than bots)))

[EXPrompt]

Quote: Mixanchik

Quote: svp67

Well, God forbid, that would be so. And most importantly, it was possible to quickly fix the malfunction

Most likely Sergey, they do not want to let OUR "Fedor" into the ISS .. After all, he knows how to shoot cowboy with two hands !!! I think swearing can also be in the right situation ..

The whole thing is much worse ...
The point here is that the portholes on the ISS made by misunderstanding without windows and undiscovered, the Americans are simply at a loss how to perform their crown trick.

Red robots are coming !! And out the window ...

And here you understand there are no fortchecks, portholes do not open and do not even fight, where to go to the Americans.

[garri-lin]

Perhaps this Fedya himself does not want to get on the ISS. They will make them work there. That sabotages the dock.

[Mixanchik]

Quote: garri-lin

Perhaps this Fedya himself does not want to get on the ISS. They will make them work there. That sabotages the dock.

FEDOR really wants !!! It will fly there in the ISS, ask Americans different questions .. Sometimes dance a step! Good robot !!!
Americans there already in the pants imposed in the ISS sure from this guest Fedi !!!!

[NordOst16]

Others say that Fedya decided to throw 100 grams on the track, but went too far)))
The main thing is that now it doesn’t fly behind the tesla launched to Mars, but thinks that if, after docking a new American ship on the ISS, it starts to stink of alcohols, then it filled in the Mask of alcohol)))

[machinistvl]

Apparently, they do not understand jokes at VO.

[NordOst16]

Well, some understand

[Fan-fan]

We do not understand flat jokes.

[figwam]

Or maybe someone deliberately disrupted the course system to prevent the first robot from arriving on the ISS?

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: figvam

Or maybe someone specifically disrupted the course system

and found the one who drilled a hole in our module?

[Minato2020]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

Have you found the one who drilled a hole in our module?

Found, but will not say. Protect your honor.

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: Minato2020

Protect your honor.

Usually cherished before the hole is made then late

[Tsoy]

Quote: figvam

Or maybe someone deliberately disrupted the course system to prevent the first robot from arriving on the ISS?

Since when is he first? 2013 year:

[machinistvl]

right now Rogozin will come, he will explain to Fedor, and he will dock at the first attempt

[smart ass]

Eh Fedor Fedor, the last hope of the Russian cosmonautics!

[Pedrodepackes]

since this is a manned version of the ship, without crew on board

but what about FEDOR? "Course", I hope, will be corrected.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

But what about FEDOR?

Wait ...

[sabakina]

What? By the sea weather? Goryuchka is limited ...

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: sabakina

What? By the sea weather? Goryuchka is limited ...

When the ship is in orbit, fuel is consumed very little. Mostly on orientation and a little bit on correction ... So it will easily wait. But Fedya doesn’t need air and toilet ...

[sabakina]

As I understand it, he must fly strictly behind the station, so orientation and adjustment will be needed.

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: sabakina

he must fly strictly behind the station, so orientation and adjustment will be needed.

Currently, it is allotted from the station to a safe distance.

they have already corrected it, and due to the lack of air in space, nothing prevents flying in orbit in a given direction and at a given speed.

[sabakina]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

and due to the lack of air in space, nothing prevents flying in orbit in a given direction and at a given speed.

Is your head friends with physics?

[Tsoy]

Quote: sabakina

Is your head friends with physics?

And you?

[Town Hall]

Quote: Choi

Quote: sabakina

Is your head friends with physics?

And you?

Do not even doubt

[Infinity]

Quote: sabakina

As I understand it, he must fly strictly behind the station, so orientation and adjustment will be needed.

After he maneuvered with fuel consumption to the desired distance and "hovered" there, nothing more needs to be done. It moves in an orbit that is almost identical to the ISS. Thus, Soyuz, like other satellites, will move for a very long time in this orbit without consuming fuel and motionless relative to the ISS. And if we exclude all possible forces (the resistance of the environment, albeit scanty; the mutual gravitational attraction between the spacecraft and the ISS is also scanty, etc.) acting on the body and changing its total mechanical energy - in such an orbit next to the ISS it will be forever!

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Wait ...

I am in the sense that can take the levers in their own hands or not trained? (joke)

[machinistvl]

I wrote above that jokes are not understood here.

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: machinistvl

they don’t understand jokes here

military, what to take from them))

[Klingon]

Rogozin will come right now and he’ll ruin everything!

[Vladimir16]

Are you with a Georgian who suffers from verbal diarrhea by accident not relatives?
That at the mention of Putin comes to shit.
Rogozin bothers you to live .....

Reminded a taxi driver from the movie Brother 2.
- Do you have a brother in Moscow?

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: Vladimir16

at the mention of Putin comes to shit

well, this is understandable, the pseudo-patriot of Sakartvelo on the content: more shit, more money.

Quote: Vladimir16

Rogozin is stopping you from living ..

a question about Rogozin .. will his arrival solve the problem? He is a major specialist in the field of astronautics, for which even the ordinary launch of Proton has been carried out the other day, is no more no less than a victory in the war, as he writes himself.

Glorify our folk trampolines
The hole in the casing is a reliable bulwark.
Dachshunds drowned, the strength of Rogozin
We will be brought to the moon and to Mars!

[Cat man null]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

question about Rogozin .. his arrival will solve the problem

No, but it will create problems for those who cause problems in the industry

Quote: Pedrodepackes

He is a major specialist in the field of space

My friend, the mechanic who is repairing my car - without a clue about thermodynamics, metal physics, physics of combustion and explosion, and other high matters. But he, nevertheless, is repairing the car quite successfully.

The legend that a successful manager must certainly be "from the plow" is just a legend. Project management is now being taught, and successfully taught, "I saw myself" (c).

Quote: Pedrodepackes

for which even the ordinary launch of Proton made the other day is now no more no less than a victory in the war

Our "space" collapsed together with the Union. Collecting it again is a hell of a job, in this sense any success is a victory, albeit a small one.

If anything - I worked from 88 to 98 in one of the TsNIIMASH divisions, and I saw the collapse process with my own eyes. And there was really a priest

[AUL]

Quote: Cat Man Null

No, but it will create problems for those who cause problems in the industry

What, hang yourself?

[Cat man null]

Quote: AUL

What, hang yourself?

Are you here purely for a chat, camping trip?

So it’s not interesting ... swim by

[AUL]

Quote: Cat Man Null

Quote: AUL

What, hang yourself?

Are you here purely for a chat, camping trip?

So it’s not interesting ... swim by

When, at a difficult moment in my life, I have a need for advice - how to live and what should I do? - POSSIBLE I will turn to you for advice ... or not. Probably not. You are not visible on my list of authorities. Alas.

[Cat man null]

Quote: AUL

You are not visible on my list of authorities

I'm flat. Swim

And so - but at least contact Svarog ... there are a lot of "aftoritetoph", for any, even the most perverted ... ugh, refined taste

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: Cat Man Null

it will create problems for those who cause problems in the industry

I would like, but as usual, the innocent will be punished uninvited

Quote: Cat Man Null

The legend that a successful manager must certainly be "from the plow"

and where did you read such a legend? I think that a manager should know what he is managing, otherwise why do we need all of these MAI, MSTU, etc. Rogozin, of course, can bang his fist on the table, but does this characterize him as a good manager? Fist on the table is knocked, usually from impotence.

Quote: Cat Man Null

Our "space" collapsed together with the Union.

Quote: Cat Man Null

And there was really a priest

I don’t argue, but Rogozin, like he put everything together in a heap?

Quote: Cat Man Null

any success is a small but a victory

Success is progress, and here the correction of the jambs is good, of course, that they did it, but the jamb is a minus, its correction is a plus, equal to zero, where is the success?

[Cat man null]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

as usual, the innocent will be punished, the uncomplicated will be awarded

This is your guess, no more. That is, trepidation, in translation.

Quote: Pedrodepackes

I think that a manager should know what controls

Mandatory. But the specifics of him thoroughly know is not necessary. An example of a mechanic repairing a mafia, I gave above. Is there an example of an objection?

Leading a large corporation is leadership at a very "macro" level, and you don't need to be an assembly fitter to do this. This is ABC, buddy

Quote: Pedrodepackes

and Rogozin, like all this heaped together?

How long is Rogozin leading the Roskosmos?

Quote: Pedrodepackes

the jamb is a minus, its correction is a plus, equal to zero

And this is demagoguery ... buddy

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: Cat Man Null

This is your guess, no more. That is, trepidation

You are too close to the text.

Quote: AUL

it will create problems for those who cause problems in the industry

this is also your guess isn't it

Quote: Cat Man Null

Example of a mechanic repairing a mafia

by the way, an unfortunate example, this is just from the "plow", as you put it

Quote: Cat Man Null

possess the skills of a fitter for this is not necessary

I did not say this

Quote: Cat Man Null

How long is Rogozin leading the Roskosmos?

enough to break firewood, I will scoop up a bit, look for an article where a person who has worked with him for a while speaks about him. I note immediately not offended by him.

Quote: Cat Man Null

And this is demagogy ...

this is a concrete example; correction of one’s own shortcomings is not success. Or do you have other considerations?

[Cat man null]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

Quote: Cat Man Null

it will create problems for those who cause problems in the industry

this is also your guess isn't it

Not. How do I know this - you do not need to know.

Quote: Pedrodepackes

Quote: Cat Man Null

Example of a mechanic repairing a mafia

by the way, an unfortunate example, this is just from the "plow", as you put it

The example shows that it is not necessary to know the "physics of the process" in order to fix something. Or to lead something, oddly enough.

Quote: Pedrodepackes

Quote: Cat Man Null

How long is Rogozin leading the Roskosmos?

enough to break firewood

The level is clear. Then another question - did you ever work in this system when a thread? I - yes, 10 years

Quote: Pedrodepackes

Quote: Cat Man Null

And this is demagogy ...

this is a concrete example, correcting one’s own shortcomings is not success

My friend, to attribute all the problems of Roskosmos to Rogozin alone, who has been there for a week without a year is demagogy.

I can add: there were problems even when I just came to work, in the city of Kaliningrad, which is near Moscow. "If you want it urgently - drive the alcoholic", for example. Was that already there

So - no need to, "walk away"

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: Cat Man Null

Man, to attribute all the problems of Roskosmos to Rogozin alone,

Can you show in our correspondence where I said this? I wrote that without Rogozin there are enough problems, but he will not rake them.

Quote: Cat Man Null

problems were already when I only came to work

There are always problems, the question is their scale.

Quote: Cat Man Null

you in this system, in general, worked when a thread? I - yes, 10 years

Yeah, tell me a lot, you had there, for example, philologists or writers in senior positions, only honestly.

Quote: Cat Man Null

it is not necessary to know the "physics of the process" to fix something.

we called it the monkey process, as soon as the problem goes beyond the existing skills of the repairman, the search begins by the method of "scientific poke", by the way, at your expense.

Quote: Cat Man Null

because starting from some level of abstraction, any project is like any other.

in my opinion, this is from the field of demagogy. We are trying to develop various projects in Russia, but something does not work out well, you see, they are still different.

Quote: Cat Man Null

How do I know this - you do not need to know.

after such a reinforced concrete arment

Quote: Cat Man Null

"pesat ezcho"

I don `t want

[Cat man null]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

Quote: Cat Man Null

it is not necessary to know the "physics of the process" to fix something.

... as soon as the problem goes beyond Reporter Skills Available, the search begins by the "scientific poke" method, by the way, at your expense

You only hear yourself, hike. Let me remind you that the original idea was that you don't need to know the physics of metals, for example, to "fix a car".

And a high-ranking leader does not need to know in detail the process that he leads. For this, there are leaders of a lower rank, each responsible for their own area and responsible to the top, ahem, leader.

Everything is simple, in fact

Quote: Pedrodepackes

Quote: Cat Man Null

starting from some level of abstraction, any project is like any other

in my opinion, this is from the field of demagogy

No, mate. This is from the area project management. There is such a discipline, so you will probably be surprised

Quote: Pedrodepackes

We are trying to develop various projects in Russia, but something goes wrong, you see, they are different

I didn't understand the logic. If whatever one tries to do "turns out badly", then the projects are more similar than different.

In fact, any project, from the addition of a family to the construction of a skyscraper, we formalize, we only need to be able to.

Quote: Pedrodepackes

after such a reinforced concrete arment

I communicate with very specific people working, in particular, in Roskosmos. I have no desire to shine them to you. And there is no such need either, you, IMHO, are a typical "expert on everything", there are a lot of such here, and talking to you seriously is just to spoil (s).

That's about as

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: Cat Man Null

Let me remind you - the original idea was that you don't need to know the physics of metals, for example, to "fix a car".

why do you think so? Physics of Metals studies the structure, electrical, magnetic, thermal, optical, mechanical and other properties of metals, metal alloys and compounds. You think that such concepts as, for example, the principle of operation of a bimetallic temperature sensor, or the color of the discolouration of the metal, or that the strength of the fastener elements should not exceed the strength of the attached parts, are far from a car repairman. Moreover, he should know much more, we open the textbook of the Car fitter: Publisher "Phoenix"
344007, Rostov-on-Don, per. Cathedral, 17 and see in the table of contents:
- Restoration of parts by welding and surfacing;
- metal spraying;
- Electroplating and chemical coating
and that’s not all, it’s also about engine and transmission oil, electric power, in general, not only metal physics, but full-scale physics and chemistry (though not in the volume of the university, but I’ve talked about this), you know, at school it all went when he studied at the CPC. So you either underestimate your mechanic, or change it soon.

Quote: Cat Man Null

No, mate. This is from the field of project management.

“The goal of managing the project (s) is to achieve predetermined goals with predetermined limitations and appropriate use of opportunities, responding to risks.”

as we said: the key to accomplishing a task is the correct goal setting, so a person who does not understand the intricacies of the project will never determine the goal and methods for achieving it. There is such a proverb about pies, a shoemaker, a cake maker and boots, you see.

Quote: Cat Man Null

you, IMHO, a typical "expert on everything"

I got the impression of you, judging by your attempts to teach everyone everything.

Quote: Cat Man Null

talking to you seriously - only spoil

Judging by the transition to the personality of the arguments, you have ended, as my Italian friends Arrivederci say

[Cat man null]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

Quote: Cat Man Null

Let me remind you that the original idea was that you don't need to know the physics of metals to "fix a car", for example

why do you think so? Physics of Metals is studying ...

Man, I graduated from Fizkhim MISiS. Somehow without, um ... have a runny nose

Once again - the master of automobile repair knowledge of metallography, for example - nafik is not needed. Argue.

Similarly: the head of a large project does not need to know the details of the project. To do this, he has the relevant performers, also - executives, but lower in rank. Argue.

Quote: Pedrodepackes

a person who does not understand the intricacies of the project will never determine the purpose and methods of achieving it

Well, start with the fact that the goal of any project is to obtain a product of acceptable quality with minimal resources and time. Argue.

And the head of a large project is, first of all, a good administrator who can establish accounting and control, calculate the risks of a project ... well, and so on.

Quote: Pedrodepackes

Arguments have run out

Not even started yet. I, you see, try not to argue with people who are poorly oriented in the subject of discussion

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: Cat Man Null

I, you see, try not to argue with people who are poorly oriented in the subject of discussion

however, trying hard to do it.

Quote: Cat Man Null

Once again - the master of automobile repair knowledge of metallography, for example - nafik is not needed. Argue.

perhaps all the more in the amount of your knowledge, but I agreed with this from the very beginning, and you tell me the same thing with obstinacy worthy of a better application.
And will we continue to sort through all areas of metal science until we find the right one (for you)?

Quote: Cat Man Null

And the head of a large project is, first of all, a good administrator who can establish accounting and control, calculate the risks of a project ...

how does he count them, if he does not know the subtleties, where does the philologist see the problem with the draftsmen, for example?

Quote: Cat Man Null

I graduated from Fizkhim MISiS

Congratulations, I'm just not to be unfounded, like some of those here

Quote: Cat Man Null

To do this, he has the relevant performers, also - executives, but lower in rank. Argue.

I already wrote to you that there is a problem when a question is resolved between two or three narrow specialists, who will be the arbitrator, who will simply set the task for them? Why weren’t philologists leading the cosmos under the USSR?

[Minato2020]

Quote: Cat Man Null

And the head of a large project is, first of all, a good administrator who can establish accounting and control, calculate the risks of a project ... well, and so on.

Then this leader is the manager. Level Li Yakokki or M. Poghosyan.

[shahor]

Quote: Cat Man Null

Well, to begin with, the goal of any project is to obtain a product of acceptable quality with minimal resources and time. Argue.

And the head of a large project is, first of all, a good administrator who can establish accounting and control, calculate the risks of a project ... well, and so on.

In order to realize in practice even those tasks that you set for the leader (in this case, the space industry), a person must, in my opinion, have a certain amount of knowledge in the relevant disciplines — physics, mechanics, electrical engineering, etc. Very, very desirable experience in the industry is knowledge of the technologies used and, accordingly, the real capabilities of the industry. And this, in turn, will allow us to define tasks and develop real projects. Yes, Rogozin recently came to Roscosmos. But he has neither knowledge nor experience. Ambition and self-conceit, more than. It spills into a stream of boastful chatter and endless, irresponsible promises. This only harms Roscosmos. I do not sympathize with Medvedev in any way, but I learned with approval about the drag that he had arranged for Rogozin, stating that we needed to talk less and do more.

[Harry.km]

Quote: Cat Man Null

Leading a large corporation is leadership at a very "macro" level, and you don't need to be an assembly fitter to do this. This is ABC wink buddy

Having such a "alphabet", effective managers were created!

[Cat man null]

Quote: Harry.km

Having such a "alphabet", effective managers were created

Having such an alphabet, the same melkosoft (I have to admit it, although I really don’t like melkosoft, I have reason) makes projects that (by their scale) have not yet been blocked.

But you don’t understand this, unfortunately

[Harry.km]

A-Ha-Ha Roman)))) Your effective managers, no one has blocked the number of stupid decisions and the number of sawn funds. You can scale in any projection.
But you do not understand this. This is not regret, this is a statement of fact!

[Cat man null]

Quote: Harry.km

Your effective managers ...

Why - mine? Yours. It's you talking about "effective" all the talk, but I only have a couple of very real PiemPi in my close friends

Quote: Harry.km

no one blocked the number of stupid decisions and the number of sawn funds

If you want to talk objectively - for starters, start with at least the following:

 Design triangle

https://support.office.com/ru-ru/article/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9-%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%83%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA-8c892e06-d761-4d40-8e1f-17b33fdcf810

Without this, sorry, "there will be no love" (c)

Quote: Harry.km

Ah Ha Ha

Schoolboy, or what? So in a week the lafa ends, byad

[Harry.km]

Quote: Cat Man Null

Schoolboy, or what?

All that is written by you do not even want to comment. You need a specialist from TsNIIMASH (former), who loves the current head of Roscosmos (by the way, do you know that he is a doctor of technical sciences?) And who believes that only holy water will help design triangles in Russia. Faith she is so ...

PS and learn Albanese. In the phrase - Shkolneg what le? The particle "le" is written through "e". )))) Actually, that's the level of your communication. Don't forget to put the minus. This is the main argument))))

[Cat man null]

Quote: Harry.km

To you a specialist from TsNIIMASH (former), loving the current head of Roscosmos

You invented it yourself. Bad idea, by the way ...

Quote: Harry.km

... and believerthat design triangles work in Russia

Confuse cases, more carefully... and as for the "project triangle" - this, my friend, is a universal model, and it works ... but anywhere. Even on Mars

Quote: Harry.km

Do not forget to put the minus. This is the main argument.

Quote: Anecdote

Masochist - sadist: - Well, cut me, cut ... burn me, burn ...
Sadist: - But not boo-woo-woo ...

Themselves climb to argue is not the case, and themselves each time merge ... Why do you need it - I do not understand

[Harry.km]

Quote: Cat Man Null

Quote: Harry.km
To you a specialist from TsNIIMASH (former), who loves the current head of Roskosmos

You invented it yourself. Bad idea, by the way ...

Well, why do you need it ... Just unlike you, not respected G. Jack, I carefully read what people like you write ... MISiS graduates, TsNIIMasha employees in 80-90, and now leading programmers in Western companies. Knowing what to sell on the labor market.))))))

Here is your, Roman text message. You can look for errors in it, orthopedic ...

"Our" space "collapsed together with the Union. Putting it together again is a hell of a job, in this sense any success is a victory, albeit a small one.

If anything, I worked from 88 to 98 in one of the divisions of TsNIIMASH, and saw the collapse process with my own eyes. And there was really a priest "(c)


PS You are selling your homeland (pl.). And given how much time you spend on the VO forum, your specialization may well be sharpened to comment on rhetorical comments)))

[Cat man null]

Quote: Harry.km

Harry.km

And again blah blah blah ... where in this stream of consciousness is the rationale for "my love for Rogozin"? And natu

Quote: Harry.km

considering how much time you spend on the VO forum

Almost not at all. And on the Internet, I almost always, except when I sleep and walk a dog. I’m working now, I rule the jambs of my favorite users

Quote: Harry.km

You (plural) sell your homeland

No, buddy. My brains and skills are quite enough for me ... quite a hot commodity for myself.

PS: and envy is a sin

[Harry.km]

Quote: Cat Man Null

And blah blah blah again ...

I did not expect more))))
So where about TsNIIMash fake? In the comment here or in the comment on another thread? Why are you my friend immediately changed the topic?)))))) At 57 years old, behave well, not seriously ... like a gopnik in the gateway.))))

[Cat man null]

Quote: Harry.km

So where about TsNIIMash fake? In the comment here or in the comment on another thread?

Well, paneslaaas

- You have already accused me of "love for Rogozin". We couldn't prove it
- they were also accused of "selling the Motherland". Couldn't prove it either
- now you invent some "fakes"

You gather your thoughts there, and tell me what a distinct thread, hop? And while I walk the dog, the day off is still there, we need to knead the little animal of the jaw-paw ...

[Harry.km]

Quote: Cat Man Null

And blah blah blah again ...

Adyus!

[machinistvl]

For Roscosmos, you need a smart, competent, fanatic, dedicated manager, like Korolev. And not looking, like Rogozin.

[SHURUM -BURUM]

And not just an official - a manager who, in a mockery of the whole design fraternity, automatically becomes also the chief designer , and the real, leading himself, the Chief Designer, like Korolev, endowed with the rights to implement his plan and the authority to have his own, and not imposed by officials and the technological process of embodiment.

[Fan-fan]

Well, you give, you compare some kind of nonsense with Korolev.

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: Fan-Fan

you compare some kind of nonsense with Korolev

Quote: SHURUM-BURUM

Chief Designer, like Korolev, endowed with the rights to realize the plan

Quote: machinistvl

you need a smart, competent, fanatic, dedicated manager, like Korolev.

how i support you!

[Cat man null]

Quote: SHURUM-BURUM

And not just an official - a manager who, in a mockery of the whole design fraternity, automatically becomes also the chief designer

Man, you have a mess in your head, sorry.

Roscosmos now is what the General Ministry was under the Union. Rogozin is now the general director of this same Roskosmos, it is the same as the Minister of General Engineering under the Union.

And in any way Rogozin is not the Chief Designer

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: Cat Man Null

And in any way Rogozin is not the Chief Designer

yes, not the main one, but he is a philologist, i.e. "lyricist". And we need "physicists" ministers of the USSR Ministry of General Affairs:
Pyotr Nikolayevich Goremykin (1902-1976) - Soviet statesman. Major General of the Engineering and Artillery Service
Sergei Aleksandr Afanasyev graduated with honors from the Moscow Technical University. Bauman, worked as a design engineer at an artillery factory
Oleg Dmitriyevich Baklanov graduated from the radio engineering faculty of the All-Union Correspondence Energy Institute.
Vitaly Husseinovich Doguzhiev graduated from Dnepropetrovsk State University with a degree in Mechanics
Oleg Nikolaevich Shishkin is a student at the Moscow Electrotechnical Institute of Communications.
everything was either rocket engineers or instrument operators, everything "from the plow" and "space" was on the level.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

... everything "from the plow" and "space" was at the level ...

The question is at what level, and at what cost?

Under Baklanov and Doguzhiev, I worked in this system. The system was already creaking frankly ... this could not be explained briefly, it had to be felt

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: Cat Man Null

The system was already creaking frankly ... this could not be explained briefly, it had to be felt

and you will not prompt a reason? Is there really a shortage of qualified personnel, philologists, for example?

Quote: Cat Man Null

and at what cost

space is not cheap, that's the reason

[Cat man null]

Man, my (deeply erroneous, by the way) statement about

Quote: Pedrodepackes

"space" was on the level

you already, hike, have forgotten. But in vain

Quote: Pedrodepackes

and you will not prompt a reason?

You? I don’t see the point. Not in the horse (s)

Quote: Pedrodepackes

Really lack of qualified personnel ...

And there was enough personnel, and there was plenty of money ... but everything worked somehow not very well. Strange, huh?

Quote: Pedrodepackes

philologists, for example?

You have an obsessive motive. Overworked, probably. take care of yourself

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: Cat Man Null

Man, my (deeply erroneous, by the way) statement about
Quote: Pedrodepackes
"space" was on the level
you already, hike, have forgotten.

no, I didn’t forget, it’s just that the level then was higher than now, I’m talking about the space race of the USSR and the USA, by the end of the 80s we were not ahead of the rest, but at least not in the tail.

Quote: Cat Man Null

Quote: Pedrodepackes
and you will not prompt a reason?
You? I don’t see the point. Not in the horse (s)

In one well-known work, Ostap Bender spoke to his comrade Kise such words:

You must be silent. Sometimes for the sake of importance, puff out your cheeks

I don’t know who asks you about this, but it’s good for you, I certainly understand

You want to spend an hour as a giant of thought and a special one close to the emperor.

but you do it worse

[Cat man null]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

by the end of the 80's we were not ahead of the rest, but at least not in the tail

We are not in the tail even now. Although for you personally, of course, I can not vouch.

PS: get your thoughts together, say that the thread is deeply clever ... trolling does not roll, buddy

[Klingon]

I about Putin here on a site at least once mentioned? And the fact that Mr. Rogozin is completely out of place is a fact and there is no need to sputter in irritation, I have the right to my own opinion, just pass by.

[Fan-fan]

This layman has never been in "his place", as indeed the majority of the government.

[loki565]

Do you have one training manual for three ???)))

Piramidon (Stepan. Russia) Today, 11:27


The arrival of the head of Roskosmos Dmitry Rogozin is expected.

He quickly and docked. lol

Quote: Tatiana
Let's hope that the cosmonauts and the Control Center on Earth will correct the miscalculations in the ISS operation, and Fedya will dock with the ISS.

Well, they’re waiting for Rogozin at the MCC. He will come and fix everything at once!

[Mountain shooter]

Here is the explanation ... And then they completely trolled Fedya. And he is a good kid. The station is to blame. The amp died ... Chinese, probably?

[sabakina]

Zhenya, are you sure. that Fedya was flying in activated mode? Like the phrase "Let's go" no one heard ... But no, I remembered, they wrote that I said ...

[Paranoid50]

Quote: sabakina

wrote that he said ...

[Harry.km]

Give him his last name "Grooms", the benefits of them are the same ...

[sabakina]

problems with the amplifier of the Kurs automatic docking system

I always knew that tube amplifiers are more reliable, and the sound is not so cold. like electronics. But seriously, as if Fedya did not have to learn how to dock on the go ... Moreover, he seems to be self-learning ...

[certero]

It seems that Fedor does not want to be on the ISS.

[sabakina]

Quote: certero

It seems that Fedor does not want to be on the ISS.

Essentially! There, enemies like to drill holes. What if they want to try it? But there’s no weapon !!!

[aszzz888]

Now ukronatsiskakuny joyfully howl ... Well, and the first pancake

Soyuz MS-14 with FEDOR robot on board

he always gets the little dogs.

[Lord of the Sith]

It's okay, this is just the first flight, unique in its kind, I think everything will turn out

[Herbalist]

Is Fedor controlled from the earth?

[sabakina]

As far as I remember, one of the astronauts should control Feday.

[SHURUM -BURUM]

And what, are there extra astronauts at the station?

[ltc35]

He is a robot. He knows what to do. Soon begin to philosophize.

[Thrifty]

And why the docking system does not have a manual mode, why is the life of the crew stupidly devoted to electronics decisions? ????????

[Ural-4320]

You read the article poorly: the ship is steered, but there the robot flies, and not the crew. Therefore, the docking is automatic.

[Tsoy]

Quote: Thrifty

And why the docking system does not have a manual mode, why is the life of the crew stupidly devoted to electronics decisions? ????????

It has manual mode, but it is on board the Union, and an inactive robot cannot press buttons. None of the designers suggested that the manned ship would be used as a cargo in a crewless version.

[Cat man null]

there are no technical problems with the Soyuz MS-14 manned spacecraft, the reason for the unsuccessful docking was a malfunction of the amplifier of the Kurs automatic docking system, which is located on board the ISS

Damn, they sounded it to me for a beer in the garage. Without any NASA.

The trick is that the guy that voiced - drove a rather big boss with Energy

They wanted to do the second call, when they realized what was the matter - they decided to drown.

And so - well, anything can happen ... "From our side, the bullet (successfully) took off" (c).

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Cat Man Null

when they understood what was the matter, they decided to drown.

Will they drown Fedya?

[Terenin]

Quote: Cat Man Null

there are no technical problems with the Soyuz MS-14 manned spacecraft, the reason for the unsuccessful docking was a malfunction of the amplifier of the Kurs automatic docking system, which is located on board the ISS

Damn, they sounded it to me for a beer in the garage. Without any NASA.

The trick is that the guy that voiced - drove a rather big boss with Energy

They wanted to do the second call, when they realized what was the matter - they decided to drown.

And so - well, anything can happen ... "From our side, the bullet (successfully) took off" (c).

Well, why just a bullet !? For some reason, at this time, and "Yuri Dolgoruky" with "Tula" successfully fired "Sineva" and "Bulava" ... And, "Fedor" may have already completed its task, while everyone is "rubbing" the docking

[Cat man null]

Quote: Terenin

And, "Fedor" may have already completed its task ...

Yes, they have already written that they will try to reconnect on Monday. Wait and see ...

[Terenin]

Quote: Cat Man Null

Quote: Terenin

And, "Fedor" may have already completed its task ...

Yes, they have already written that they will try to reconnect on Monday. Wait and see ...

I am sure everything will go as planned

[armata_armata]

The main thing would be driven away from the station, otherwise the history of the world will be repeated again

[maiman61]

I give the tooth that the Americans rigged it! They do not want to let the robot aboard. The whole world will see that Russia has a robot in space, and striped aborigines of a robot do not!

[donavi49]

You can’t go to the toilet on the ISS without Simon’s sharp comments (robot companion).

Astro bees work:

Simon laughs from meat bags, I wonder when they push him into the gateway:

Well, Robonaft long before Fedor chilits on the ISS, and he can grow to 275cm if necessary, Uncle Fedor can’t do that.

[Alien From]

Fedya needs, it’s necessary, otherwise the whole world will laugh .......

[fif21]

Managed, uncontrolled ship So the robot was supposed to dock!? And the backup docking system was simply not installed! Your affairs are wonderful Roscosmos

[Voronezh-90]

It seems that the first task for Fedor is done!
1. To leave the board of Soyuz MS-14
2. From outside, control the process of docking of the Soyuz MS-14 spacecraft and the ISS.
3. In case of repeated failure of the docking module, dock "Soyuz MS-14" and ISS manually.
4. In the case of Fedor’s refusal to carry out these manipulations, recognize the first case of a machine rebellion against humanity.

[rocket757]

"FYODORA" among other things, now unnecessary, it was necessary to teach the ship to operate manually !!!
That would be FOCUS! With far-reaching consequences and prospects!
A PR action is ... cool, but the practical meaning is much more important! We do not repeat the "exploits" of the Mask.

[Mooh]

FEDOR noted a successful launch, and could not dock with the ISS. So without rights you can stay.

[pru-pavel]

Rogozin will come, restore order.

[loki565]

Already 4 with the same komentom))) Than Rogozin does not give life to bots)))

[pru-pavel]

Quote: loki565

Already 4 with the same komentom))) Than Rogozin does not give life to bots)))

Well, the article has such a phrase

At the same time, it is reported that a meeting is currently being held at the MCC in connection with the failed connection so far. The arrival of the head of Roskosmos Dmitry Rogozin is expected.

I just stated that since the head of the Russian Space Agency personally dealt with the problem, then everything will be done as it should

[the same doctor]

Problems with electronics, which is thousands of times easier than stuffing ANY smartphone! Is it time to hire students to create modern electronics for space?

[svp67]

Quote: also a doctor

Problems with electronics, which is thousands of times easier than stuffing ANY smartphone!

Yes? Something I have not seen more than one smartphone flying on its own from Earth to space.

Quote: also a doctor

Is it time to hire students to create modern electronics for space?

Well, if you are a doctor, can you suggest that first-year students of medical institutes be allowed to conduct complex operations?

[AU Ivanov.]

A drone for 30 ty is much more complicated than the Su-35.

[Shahno]

Quote: also a doctor

Problems with electronics, which is thousands of times easier than stuffing ANY smartphone! Is it time to hire students to create modern electronics for space?

Do you have a question in the first sentence? -
No, it’s not, a smartphone is easier. Reasons for a vskidka:
There is no feedback due to a limited series (defects, etc.), a large number of external factors affecting the circuit, these factors are intense and often "something goes wrong" forever.

[Amateur]

The reason for the unsuccessful docking of the Soyuz MS-14 manned spacecraft with the ISS was problems with the amplifier of the Kurs automatic docking system located on board the ISS. This was reported in NASA during the broadcast of the dock.

NASA explains what broke on the RUSSIAN spacecraft and the Russian segment of the ISS! Survived!
And at TsUPe they are waiting for D. Rogozin to make decisions!
What, Roscosmos completely lost its competence in both flight management and personnel qualifications?
It’s good that the military is still flying.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Amateur

"Amateur"

They drove you in color

[Nikolka]

Sabotage? Again, the Americans with a drill fussed.

[Cry]

Rogozin will come and put all the holes somewhere.

[Shahno]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

about humor I'm not talking about that

Quote: Mordvin 3

searched for this hole live

I'm about it

Quote: Mordvin 3

they’ll hardly tell us who drilled

Well what are you, what holes.
PR move. My former teacher at North Western University set the same task.

[Berg berg]

Do not expect anything. This is a policy, America will pay quietly or sign a contract and then all will calm down. About twenty years later, they might hint.

[DPN]

We were able to make excuses and thanks for that, UNION no longer 28 years old, it’s time to move to Russia where we live, but somehow it’s not good, we blame the USSR, and fly to the UNION,

[pafegosoff]

"Rosiya", along the way, was sold to the Chinese ...

[Dikson]

Interestingly, and they can return it to Earth? Or drown in the ocean ..?

[pafegosoff]

Well, what is the difference between zhurnalyugi from a NASA specialist who ate a bunch of dogs on this ...

[Berg berg]

All this is strange, at first they drilled a hole, now when the first Russian robot flew, the system suddenly went dead on the ISS! All this is strange!

[aiden]

Fly as you Fedya away from them. They will drown you, or burn you in the atmosphere

[GibSoN]

The paradox is. What kind of RF, NASA (USA) explains. Moreover, by doing this on a resource intended exclusively for the Russian-speaking population.

[DNkroz]

"... in connection with the failed docking so far. The arrival of the head of Roscosmos Dmitry Rogozin is expected." This is alarming. As a rule, specialists work not for money, but for an idea. Failures happen to everyone. And then such a top manager will come and begin to look for the guilty and bring fuss. I highly doubt this will help solve the problem. How are the trampolines? I am interested in astronautics from my couch, and always rejoice at our successes, but hurray-patriots, as for me they only interfere. Damn, just now I realized: Rogozin is the head of Roscosmos? It somehow passed me by. Such a good specialist that he was directly appointed head? Although it may be true. This is often more important ...

[cyborg]

The ship is manned. It turns out that Fedya was not taught to control the ship ... Or he himself did not want to dock ..

[Dmitry Leontiev]

So these days next to the ISS you can see a smaller satellite. To see how they look together.

[georggy]

The arrival of the head of Roskosmos Dmitry Rogozin is expected.

and immediately everything will work.

[Archivist Vasya]

this is a manned version of the ship, without crew on board

Sounds funny))))) but at least one bucket of nuts is there, not R2-D2, but still.