Ukraine was advised to buy gas from Russia, and not from Qatar

Ukraine needs to negotiate gas supplies with Russian Gazprom, and not rely on the supply of liquefied natural gas from Qatar, as it simply does not have the capacity to do so. This was stated by an expert in the oil and gas industry, a visiting professor of energy economics at the Europe business school (ESCP) in London, doctor of sciences Mamduh Hasan Salama "RIA News".

Despite the statement by Sergey Makogon, director of the Ukrainian GTS Operator, that Ukraine is considering the possibility of starting import of liquefied natural gas from Qatar from 2020, this option has no further development, the expert said. The fact is that Qatar today simply does not have the necessary capacities to supply LNG to Ukraine, and it can only increase them by the 2025 year.

Until Qatar increases liquefied gas production from the current 70 million tons per year to 110 million tons, which is supposed to be done by 2025, it will not be able to supply gas that would go to Ukraine. Currently, the main export of LNG from Qatar goes to the Asia-Pacific region

- explained the expert.

According to him, Kiev is easier and cheaper to negotiate with Gazprom, and not rely on the supply of Qatari gas. He called on Ukraine to abandon its ambitions and resolve disagreements with Russia out of court, otherwise it will lose its last hope for Moscow to use the Ukrainian GTS to pump gas to Europe.

The second expert explained that all the statements of Ukraine on the supply of LNG from Qatar have no real basis.

Ukraine does not have a terminal for receiving LNG. Qatar has not yet been able to resolve the issue of LNG deliveries to countries such as Hungary and Croatia, although there is an LNG terminal in Italy, and for him it would be much simpler than deliveries to Ukraine

- He noted, adding that the statements of Kiev are "just elements of politics" aimed at additional pressure on Moscow to conclude a contract for gas transit.

Comments

[svp67]

Ukraine is exploring the opportunity to start importing liquefied natural gas from Qatar from 2020

I wonder HOW? With the help of the "hyperloop", and since Omelyan is now concerned about the installation of the Ukrainian flag over Vladivostok, this will not happen soon ... Turkey will not let gas carriers through the straits. The capacity of the Italian LNG terminal is not enough for them themselves. How does Ukraine plan to receive it, and even in 2020?

[Amurets]

Quote: svp67

How are Ukraine planning to receive it, and even in the 2020 year?

Using wood-fired gas generators. "The unit is a mechanized device, the operation of which provides for the production of gas from all kinds of solid fuels - firewood, coal, mixtures. The resulting resource is used for various purposes: it is sent to heating homes, is used as fuel for a car, and is used to ensure the operation of power plants. The wood-fired gas generator is based on the assemblies described below.
Source: https://pechiexpert.ru/gazogenerator-svoimi-rukami-01/ "

[svp67]

Quote: Amurets

Using wood-fired gas generators

Will they receive firewood from Russia through the "wood pipe"? there won't be enough of our own

[Nicholas C.]

Firewood (forest) Ukraine is actively selling to the West.
By the way, for a long time the Galician people have not been shouting about the floods occurring due to the deforestation of the Carpathian forests, and the need to save the Galician people. They were so gloriously under this cry received tribute from the rest of Ukraine under "panda-get".
I think they will now shout that they will undermine this damned Muscovite gas pipeline if the rest of Ukraine does not fall for their content.

[svp67]

Quote: Nikolai S.

Firewood (forest) Ukraine is actively selling to the West.

The fact of the matter is that it is not firewood, but a roundwood from the Carpathians. And this will come back to them much stronger than our sold forest from Siberia

[tihonmarine]

Quote: svp67

Will they receive firewood from Russia through the "wood pipe"?

Firewood is the wealth of Russia. Let the stoves be heated in the old old-fashioned way "dung"

[not main]

Quote: svp67

Quote: Amurets

Using wood-fired gas generators

Will they receive firewood from Russia through the "wood pipe"? there won't be enough of our own

Do you have your own? I remember in the early 90s I lived in the Vinnitsa region. I rented a house. The problem with firewood was very acute! They brought coal, but you won’t melt it without firewood! I watched the picture when a chock fell out of an on-board car, so all the nearest residents jumped out to share this chock! He himself went to the forest plantation and sawed wood with a hacksaw! By the way, I’m storing this hacksaw as a relic, it has a divorce of about 7mm.

[hydrox]

Quote: Amurets

A wood gas generator is based on the nodes described below.
Source: https://pechiexpert.ru/gazogenerator-svoimi-rukami-01/ "

Gasgen can be built on any hydrocarbons (HC), only for this these HCs must be in the bowels or purchased cheaply, otherwise the electric power will be prohibitively expensive (like the electric power produced on Qatari or American LNG (gas carriers Turkey does not will pass through its straits, the pipe will need to be pulled from the Baltic)). And Ukrina has already cut down its Carpathian forests for the fun of Europe.
So the skakuas can bend for a long time on stage for fun to the whole world.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: hydrox

So the skakuas can bend for a long time on stage for fun to the whole world.

Well, as the cold weather blows, then you definitely have to ride, there is already experience in racing.

[hydrox]

It remains for them to think about organizing the optional discipline of the Winter Olympics
"Jumps in height from standstill depending on the negative temperature of the outside air"

[NF68]

Quote: Amurets

Quote: svp67

How are Ukraine planning to receive it, and even in the 2020 year?

Using wood-fired gas generators. "The unit is a mechanized device, the operation of which provides for the production of gas from all kinds of solid fuels - firewood, coal, mixtures. The resulting resource is used for various purposes: it is sent to heating homes, is used as fuel for a car, and is used to ensure the operation of power plants. The wood-fired gas generator is based on the assemblies described below.
Source: https://pechiexpert.ru/gazogenerator-svoimi-rukami-01/ "

Ukraine can "receive" gas from peas.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Amurets

With the help of gas generators running on wood.

rather on peas

[venik]

Quote: svp67

I wonder HOW? Using "hyperloop"

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Coal from South Africa, gas - from Qatar ...... Just some kind of circus !!! Here is the country .....

[tihonmarine]

Quote: venik

Coal from South Africa, gas from Qatar ...

Oil from Jupiter, fat from Mars.

[svp67]

Quote: tihonmarine

fat from Mars.

Alas, fat from Poland ... Although it is clearly closer to Mars

[svp67]

Quote: venik

Coal from South Africa, gas from Qatar ......

Money from America ...

[major147]

Quote: svp67

Turkey will not let gas carriers pass through the straits.

Yes, even if it does, where will the liquefy be "blown off"? The construction of the terminal takes years and millions of dollars.

[svp67]

Quote: major147

Yes, even if it misses, where will the liquefy be "blown off"?

Now it is "fashionable" to rent such terminals.

[major147]

Quote: svp67

Quote: major147

Yes, even if it misses, where will the liquefy be "blown off"?

Now it is "fashionable" to rent such terminals.

Storage ship of the Lithuanian liquefied gas terminal.
Its length is 294 meters, height - 47 meters, can move at a speed of 18 knots. It has 4 storage facilities for liquefied natural gas (LNG), the total capacity of which reaches 170 cubic meters. for 000 years of leasing the vessel with the right of subsequent redemption, Lithuania is obliged to pay 10 million euros to Hoegh LNG 429 US dollars (54 million euros) annually;
By the way, our gas carrier "Marshal Vasilevsky" has already "checked in" there.
NOVATEK began exporting liquefied natural gas (LNG) from the new Kriogaz-Vysotsk plant in the Leningrad Region, Reuters writes citing data from the Refinitiv Eikon vessel tracking system.
Raw materials are supplied to Lithuania, Finland and Sweden. It is noted that three tankers delivered cargo to the LNG terminal in Klaipeda, two tankers each arrived at Finnish and Swedish ports. According to Kommersant, NOVATEK does not disclose shipments.
Two of the three batches in Lithuania was bought by the country's largest fertilizer producer Achema. One batch was intended for the Lithuanian state energy company Lietuvos Energija.

[self-propelled]

Quote: svp67

Now it is "fashionable" to rent such terminals.

But who will let him (this floating terminal) into the Black Sea? Turks? so what are they really stupid to let competitors?

[Den717]

Quote: svp67

That's interesting HOW?

From Poland, Ukraine bought 2016 billion cubic meters of gas from August 2018 to June 1,3. Ukrainians also concluded an agreement with the Poles for 2019. When the Slovaks refuse to supply gas in a fictitious reverse, the Poles will sell the maximum amount of gas from their LNG terminal, I think, with such a mark-up to recoup all their costs and overpayments for LNG and for their domestic consumption. This is so far the only line for pumping LNG. You can certainly buy from the Austrian hub, if there will be surpluses. Although, given the drop in European production, Gazprom is unlikely to create such surpluses in Baumgarten in three flows. I suppose that in the future, Europe will kick off the excess mouth from European hubs with kicks. Moreover, Ukrainians have the technical possibility of direct purchases from Russia.

[Rzzz]

Quote: svp67

Turkey will not let gas carriers pass through the straits.

Why at least? What is stopping her?

[svp67]

Quote: rzzz

Why at least? What is stopping her?

Security measures. They do not want possible troubles in this densely populated area

[self-propelled]

rather, a thirst for profit - why let competitors (under any pretext)? let them be purchased in Europe (and there is some part, but it will be from the Turkish Stream, and this is money for transit)

[Maz]

They will shoot in their own leg until the owner and Washington gives a sign to stop

[svp67]

Quote: Maz

They will shoot in their own leg until the owner and Washington gives a sign to stop

No, such a team will not follow, as America will fight for its interests until the last Ukrainian

[Thrifty]

There is no point in commenting on the frank nonsense of the Ukrainian authorities.

[sir.jonn]

Quote: Thrifty

There is no point in commenting on the frank nonsense of the Ukrainian authorities.

The most interesting thing is that this whole nonsense is commented by a whole doctor of sciences Mamduh Hasan Salam.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Thrifty

There is no point in commenting on the frank nonsense of the Ukrainian authorities.

Yes, the "square" costs dearly the desired entry into Europe.

[hydrox]

It only seems to them that they are entering Europe: in fact, it is Europe that is entering them and each time deeper and deeper ...

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Would you keep your mouth shut - would live on re-export. So he dreamed of duty-free trade with both the EU and Russia.
But they screeched - now Old Man is exuberant: Russia has banned the supply of diesel fuel to Ukraine - Belarus has increased deliveries from 150 thousand tons to 260. Import of Polish apples to Russia is forbidden - Old Man sold 4 annual crops of apples, shrimp, bananas, sturgeon to Russia.
Want to be rich - do the thing silently.

[Valery Valery]

For almost thirty years, Ukraine has been living according to the principle: "To spite my mother’s ears, I will freeze my ears."
They see their main purpose - to do as much harm to Russia as possible. But at the same time they beat on their own, but they hate us for it.

[Vadim02rus]

Yes, what is there thirty years. Since Cain, everything is the same.

[Russobel]

Yes, and frostbite ...
The Ukrainian is sitting and crying on the threshold near the hut, the clouds parted and Jesus Christ came down to him.
He asks what he is crying.
I want to eat.
I'll give you everything you ask, but your neighbor's maskal will get twice as much.
Thought the Ukrainian thought ... And he said to Jesus: But pierce me with one eye ...

[Voyager]

Those killed where the APU is a fact. And the blame for these killed also hangs on the Armed Forces and their leaders. It was possible to avoid this by simply not licking the American boot, not arranging a coup d'etat and not shooting at its own inhabitants. But Svidomo Ukrainians are not looking for simple ways, right?

[hydrox]

14 thousand? Just?
Yes, they cost Ukraine nothing - how many non-combat losses only (in thousands already!), And they are all driving and driving their troops into their own minefields - how will there be no losses?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: NAVI

While harming Ukraine, no country in the world can be compared with Russia.

Russia is your enemy, but Germany is a great friend, only this friend from 1941 to 1944 killed 8 millions of Ukrainians. Maybe friends are allowed.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Valery Valery

They see their main purpose - to do as much harm to Russia as possible.

And so that Russia would love them for this, it would give gas and oil for free, and would also give their state workers a job and feed their families. And plus Russia should call itself an occupier, an enemy of Ukraine, and that all Russians would shout "Glory to Ukraine" (and recognized the Bandera as heroes).

[Ravil_Asnafovich]

Damn, you tell some Ukrainians, although they still do not understand.

[knn54]

There is fragrant soap and a fluffy rope, it will come in handy soon.

[Mixanchik]

According to him, it is easier and cheaper for Kiev to negotiate with Gazprom, rather than relying on Qatari gas supplies. He called on Ukraine to drop its ambitions

As soon as the cold weather approaches, "old songs about the main thing" begin .. Kiev even announced that it was taking the Natsiks out of the Donbass border .. (I think everything is interconnected)

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

The word, Ukraine, and the word, country of fools, are synonyms.

[Mountain shooter]

This was already obvious ... Like the mythical liquefied gas from the USA. it just IS NOT yet on the market ... AND QUICKLY it will not come from anywhere ... Is it with Yamal-LNG?

[hydrox]

By the way, Yamal gas under the guise of American gas was already traded on the European market, and even one gas carrier was sold, it seems, in Pennsylvania, and this was last winter in February or March.
So it’s time to nationalize the mineral resources :: for the profit from nationalized gas it will be possible to bring gas supply to the territories up to 95% in two years

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: hydrox

in two years it will be possible to bring gas supply to the territories up to 95%

If you look at the map, especially in Siberia and the Far East. Are there gas lines stretching for hundreds of kilometers? ABSOLUTELY not cost-effective ... Well, we are not Germany ... By the way, gasification in Germany is far from complete, and nobody really cares about it ...

[hydrox]

It is the territories without road infrastructure that are included in the remaining "ungassed" 5% - which is not clear here, but you can think about the supply of LNG.
Germany has the right not to steam - it does not have its own gas, it uses ours, and our gas, in fact, is the property of the WHOLE PEOPLE (this is for reference) - respectively, and all the people have the right to gasify their homes ...

[major147]

Quote: hydrox

even one gas carrier was sold, it seems, in Pennsylvania, and this was last winter in February or March.

Let me repeat my early post on this topic:
The US is doomed to buy Russian LNG. In January 2019, when abnormal frosts hit the northeast of the country, two tankers with Russian LNG, Gaselys and Provalys, arrived in Boston one after the other. In July, due to the heat, air conditioners in homes and offices were running at full capacity, and the Americans had to buy new fuel for the power plants. On July 26, the gas carrier Gaslog Hong Kong delivered more than 100 million cubic meters of gas from Yamal to the Everett LNG terminal in Boston. Finally, in November, ahead of winter, four more Russian-made LNG carriers docked in Boston. At the same time, NOVATEK, which operates Yamal LNG, and co-owner of the company, Gennady Timchenko, are under US sanctions. Therefore, the transactions are carried out through intermediaries - French firms Engie or Total, Malaysian Petronas and others. But the fact remains: the northeastern states depend on Russian fuel.
And you are talking about Amer LNG .........

[hydrox]

Please read carefully :: I didn’t say anything good about American gas ... And if it’s not the last sentence, I would note your post as a plus.

[major147]

Quote: hydrox

Please read carefully :: I didn’t say anything good about American gas ... And if it’s not the last sentence, I would note your post as a plus.

I noted your post +, and added to your infe about LNG supplies to the USA. In general, I did not understand anything in this situation
The last phrase I wanted to say is that they lack for themselves

[Popov Konstantin Ivanovich]

Don’t buy anywhere. Really, got it already. Another state, other people, well, let them. They want to dig the Black Sea, let them dig, they want to fuck themselves - let them HAVE. What do we have to do with it? Not our profit, not our losses - Gazprom. Let him have his own structures that will deal with Usraina, anywhere and anytime, in the courts, in the war. in the stands, only Russia does not need to interfere. And enough to talk about love for the FORGIVENESS, enough to love and regret them, let them regret themselves, the main thing is that then the palms would not forget to shave. This is their business and they need to be released into the sexually-pedestrian route over a short distance. And gas, weapons, and other profitable sales items, to be sold without regard to goblins.

[Vasyan1971]

Ukraine needs to negotiate gas supplies with the Russian "Gazprom", and not rely on supplies of liquefied gas from Qatar

Oh, Mamduh, Mamduh. You do not understand the current political situation, honestly!

[SHIPS]

Strange news.
When Russia grabs a piece of territory from Qatar, Ukrainians will also advise a lot about ambition.

[den3080]

Quote: NAVI

Strange news.
When Russia grabs a piece of territory from Qatar, Ukrainians will also advise a lot about ambition.

Qatar is 2,5 times smaller than Crimea in area so what are the pieces? you must immediately take the whole.

[SHIPS]

So why are we sitting? Are the green men bored?

[Guards turn]

So they advise you ... Subsidy recipients will not be able to buy gas at the “summer price” - Vitrenko. Ukrainians who receive subsidies will not be able to buy gas at the current price. NAK Naftogaz of Ukraine Executive Director Yuriy Vitrenko said that it is possible to buy gas at “ summer price ”is not designed for those people who receive subsidies.
According to him, the opportunity to pay for gas in advance at the current price was introduced for those who pay for the resource without a subsidy.

[Berkut24]

No no! For the laden only gas from Qatar! What for do we need Qatari gas in Europe?

[hydrox]

Come on you!
The Qatari people now have a tense concern: how to withstand all volumes of supplies in Southeast Asia (Qatar there has a margin of 10-15% higher than in Europe).

[andrewkor]

Interestingly, but on the globe of Ukraine Qatar is?
I figured the route of the gas carrier along the atlas, it turns out far away. Through the Bosphorus, the Turks will not let them in for anyone. Will you have to go to Poland through Suez (?), Around Africa?

[mamont5]

Quote: NAVI

While harming Ukraine, no country in the world can be compared with Russia.
Only 14 of thousands of dead are worth.

Oooo, how everything is running ... So far, Ukraine has successfully turned itself into a Ruin. And Russia has nothing to do with it. Do not read after dinner ukroSMI (however, after dinner, too) is harmful to mental health (especially yours) ...

[evgen1221]

Gas and Qatar from Motar and at least they won’t let them into the straits, there’s no hyperloop, there’s no other money either. There’s no way to sponsor the West (we’re not talking about fraternal peoples). It remains only to negotiate with us, but for all the good from the Sumerians, I would first rip off three skins from them and then send them far and for long. At least at the household level, such neighbors do this.

[APASUS]

With the same approximate success, it is possible to raise a speech on the construction of a gas pipeline to Ukraine from the USA, they have not yet considered this issue. Time H is getting closer, and the whole solution of the issue for Ukrainian officials is limited by imagination

[major147]

Quote: APASUS

Time h is getting closer

In my opinion, they will replace the leadership of Naftogaz and quietly find a compromise.

[APASUS]

Quote: major147

In my opinion, they will replace the leadership of Naftogaz and quietly find a compromise.

And what does the leadership of Naftogaz have to do with it? Kobolev - a talking head, an official delivered from the state. Heard that today Ze gave out about the Crimea?
So it’s not at all in Naftogaz ............................

[major147]

Quote: APASUS

Quote: major147

In my opinion, they will replace the leadership of Naftogaz and quietly find a compromise.

And what does the leadership of Naftogaz have to do with it? Kobolev - a talking head, an official delivered from the state. Heard that today Ze gave out about the Crimea?
So it’s not at all in Naftogaz ............................

Yes, I heard about the Crimea. Responsible Mantras. But about gas - let's wait a couple of three months ...... This is purely my opinion.

[APASUS]

Quote: major147

Yes, I heard about the Crimea. Responsible Mantras. But about gas - let's wait a couple of three months ...... This is purely my opinion.

Of course, we’ll wait, just the solution to the gas issue is not for Kobolev. I won’t be surprised if on December 20 Ze will deliver a breakthrough speech on the issue of gas supply to the country and, as expected, it will be the only one to score points.

[major147]

Quote: APASUS

Quote: major147

Yes, I heard about the Crimea. Responsible Mantras. But about gas - let's wait a couple of three months ...... This is purely my opinion.

Of course, we’ll wait, just the solution to the gas issue is not for Kobolev. I won’t be surprised if on December 20 Ze will deliver a breakthrough speech on the issue of gas supply to the country and, as expected, it will be the only one to score points.

It is clear that "Kobelev" does not decide, but he can screw up, so there will be a replacement, but it seems to be right.

[aszzz888]

Professor of Energy Economics at Europe Business School (ESCP) in London, MD Mamduh Hasan Salama

Hike, he is already in the Ukronazi "peacemaker".

[aszzz888]

adding that Kiev's statements are "just elements of politics"aimed at additional pressure on Moscow in order to conclude a gas transit contract.

And I would call a lack of brains and an increased amount of ambition. But there is, and a certain positive side - during the races they will start to warm up.

[rocket757]

Obvious, but most likely incredible!?!?!?

[Chaldon48]

Ukraine is like a cat that runs around a pot of hot meat.

[amr]

Hedgehogs cried, cursed, but continued to eat the cactus)))))

[Cat man null]

Quote: amr

Hedgehogs cried, cursed, but continued to eat cactus

LOL

Firstly, in the original cactus ate mouse.
Secondly, there is an anecdote close to its content, about "how to become a hedgehog mouse"There was also an owl, wise.

In general - do not spit in the well, fly out - you will not catch (s).

Plus, definitely

[Incvizitor]

The main thing here is that "ours" should not agree to drive gas to these violent people.

[demo]

I decided to look at what the Ukrainian GTS is.
According to the owner.
The gas transportation system of Ukraine includes 36 thousand km of gas pipelines, including 14 thousand km of large diameter pipes (from 1020 mm to 1420 mm). The system also includes 79 compressor stations with a total capacity of 5500 MW and 13 underground gas storages (UGS). The system capacity is at the input of 290 billion cubic meters. m of gas per year, at the output - 170 billion cubic meters.

The gas transportation system, operated by an enterprise that is part of Naftogaz of Ukraine NK - DC Ukrtransgaz, provides gas to domestic consumers and carries out the bulk of Russian gas export to other European countries (according to Gazprom, more than 80% of the total exported volume gas).
About 70 billion cubic meters are transported annually through the gas transportation system for Ukrainian consumers. m of natural gas, as well as 110-120 billion cubic meters - to the countries of Western and Central Europe. According to Naftogaz Ukrainy, today there is a technical opportunity to increase gas transit to Central and Western Europe to 140 billion cubic meters per year without expanding the gas transmission system.

The strategic importance of the Ukrainian gas transportation system is due to the advantageous geographical location of our state between the main gas producing regions and the main gas consumers in Europe, the connection of gas pipelines with main gas pipelines of all neighboring countries, and the presence of the largest underground gas storage complex in Europe (after the Russian Federation).

An important technological element of the gas transportation system is 13 underground gas storages with an active volume of 34,5 billion cubic meters. The underground gas storage network includes four complexes - Western Ukrainian, Kiev, Donetsk and South Ukrainian. The maximum possible extraction with full filling of underground gas storages can reach 250 million cubic meters per day.

And such a picture.

The Ukrainians got it all for nothing.
And so everything is fooling, mediocre.
It is necessary to be able to.

[demo]

And in the sequel.
If you bring gas to the sea (and suddenly find the same crazy), you need to fill the pipe. All over.
Or cut off and build a jumper to send gas to Europe.
In short - nonsense.

But they could lay 36000 kilometers in the Union.
Titanic work.

[Alex Nevs]

very gentle word .. very profucat. There is a sluggish Ukrainian obscene word.

[demo]

Yes, and in the Russian lexicon there is ... as if softer .... juicy expressions.
Only moderators obviously will not appreciate my deep respect and knowledge of my native language.

[Alex Nevs]

They’ll buy from penguins from Antarctica ... five more. and !!!! ALL! will believe

[Ros 56]

So this is a zrada, Hasan Salam urgently to the peacemaker for life.

[cat Rusich]

I can also advise residents of Ukraine - Energy WILLOW ...

[SHIPS]

Strange :-)
Different people write, but the words are the same.
I identify the Skolkovo keywords in the posts:
"Lick, gayropa, s, shit, casteoluli, harem pants, 404 ... well, and a derogatory distortion of the names of leaders, the country and the Ukrainian nation"
Looks like manuals written by a dummy in the Russian language.
Ukrainians, this is not written by Russians, these are bots. We are not so bad, we are ashamed of the Crimea and the Donbass. (((