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In the US, intensified the modernization of the "plutonium" program

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The US command of strategic nuclear forces publishes a message about the modernization of the "plutonium" program. It is noted that modernization "is aimed at ensuring that US partners see a revitalization of the nuclear energy program."


In the US, intensified the modernization of the "plutonium" program


American officials from the administration inspected the progress of work in several research laboratories at once: in Los Alamos (state of New Mexico) and in Knoxville (state of Tennessee).

So, US Under Secretary of Energy Dan Brullet was sent to the National Research Laboratory in Knoxville. Congressman Phil Rowe also conducted an inspection there. Visitors from Washington were shown the developed technology for the production of nuclear fuel and nuclear materials. It is noted that the creation is on new technologies - for the US military industry - in particular, for the naval forces of the United States.

From the official report:

Dan Brullett discussed with the representatives of the laboratory and research university the latest developments in the field of nuclear materials.


John Bolton, an adviser to the President of the United States on security issues, also joined in the inspection of American nuclear facilities.



He said in the US "the time has come for nuclear modernization as a key deterrent." It was added that the work of two plants included in the plutonium production system in the United States has been activated. It is noted that the work is supported by the National Nuclear Safety Bureau.
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the National Nuclear Security Administration, US Department of Energy
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  1. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 23 August 2019 12: 45
    +2
    Soon the military industry will need a lot of vigorous materials. So they revive the "meat industry" so that special ammunition "bake like sausages". And orders are expected just in bulk ...
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 23 August 2019 12: 47
      +4
      John Bolton, an adviser to the President of the United States on security issues, also joined in the inspection of American nuclear facilities.

      Far from Comrade Bolton to Comrade Beria on the issue of overseeing nuclear programs.
      1. NordOst16
        NordOst16 23 August 2019 12: 59
        -14
        Well, we hardly know exactly how far Mr. Bolton is from Comrade Beria, but it’s for sure what the USA’s capabilities of Russia, like Beijing on foot, are.
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 23 August 2019 13: 20
          +11
          You can’t be like that ... (oh, I’m not Zadornov!) :: Russia holds about 80% of the world’s fissile material technology in its hands, and all liberties should know that Russia’s plutonium reserves are estimated in tons and in the USA - in kilograms with lost mix selection technologies.
          So take off your shoes and go to Beijing! fool
          1. NordOst16
            NordOst16 23 August 2019 13: 58
            -11
            Why are you so inflated stockpiles of weapons-grade plutonium States? Yes, there are grams left, Trump told me in secret. And there was absolutely no technology left, neither to build reactors, nor to produce fuel by ourselves.

            Quote: hydrox
            Russia holds about 80% of global fissile material technology in its hands

            And the remaining 20% ​​of global capacity is not based on fissile material technologies?))) You wrote some nonsense.

            Quote: hydrox
            kilograms with lost mix selection technologies

            What is the selection ??? Before writing, it is advisable to read and understand the difference between the manufacture of MOX fuel (and what it is), the enrichment of uranium, the manufacture of weapons-grade plutonium and ammunition from it.
          2. Roman070280
            Roman070280 23 August 2019 14: 29
            -7
            Russia holds in its hands about 80% of global capacity

            It’s a shame from that .. That it is not in those hands that holds it all !!

            One finished 10 classes, sunbathes in the Maldives ..
            The second - an institute, academy, professorship, etc. .. cleans up the pigs in the barn in Uryupinsk .. But shouts to everyone that "in his head 80% of scientific capacity"
            I think it’s clear which of them looks like Russia ..
            1. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 29 August 2019 09: 21
              0
              Quote: Roman070280
              The second - an institute, academy, professorship, etc. .. cleans up the pigs in the barn in Uryupinsk .. But shouts to everyone that "in his head 80% of scientific capacity"

              Craving for knowledge, faith in them is a category of the spiritual plan. It is not clear to those whose brains remained at the level of a reptilian monkey, which will try to fill its belly for the future. In general, the craving for money is from insecurity, from fear of the future. Mass production of consumers in Russia today is part of a Western project for the preparation of a managed herd ....
              1. Roman070280
                Roman070280 29 August 2019 09: 32
                0
                In general, the craving for money is from insecurity, from fear of the future. Mass production of consumers in Russia today is part of a Western project for the preparation of a managed herd.


                That is, we have oligarchism and 20 million watches gained mass in the country ??
                Well, that's exactly why no 80% of world capacities will help us !!
                I repeat once again - in the wrong hands all this is held and controlled .. these reptiloid monkeys will never get enough and nothing, no matter how many secret budgets are allocated for their maintenance ..

                PS .. with one thing I disagree with .. what side is the west here ..
                Our native power is making people out of the people, and our beloved media ..
                1. aybolyt678
                  aybolyt678 29 August 2019 09: 36
                  +1
                  +++ It doesn’t matter whether oligarchism is massive or not, it is important that 99% have become consumers and despise scientists who clean up pigs and envy the oligarchs. They clean up the pigs because, having gained great narrowly specialized knowledge, nobody needs them in the country. What will a country come to where Knowledge is not needed? I believe that the problem is the mass introduction of consumerism in the public consciousness - this is also an ideology.
        2. Amateur
          Amateur 23 August 2019 13: 25
          +6
          Urenco plant (Urenco is owned in equal shares by three companies: Ultra-Centrifuge Nederland NV (owned by the government of the Netherlands), Uranit GmbH (owned in equal shares by the German energy companies E.ON and RWE), Enrichment Holdings Ltd (owned by the UK government, managed by Shareholder Executive) in the United States is now the only fuel enrichment plant in America. There was a USEC plant that used gaseous diffusion uranium enrichment technology (much less cost-effective than modern gas centrifuge technology). This plant was closed in 2013, and the new the USEC project - "American gas centrifuge" - requires more and more cash injections, and it is not known when it will be launched.

          Enrich uranium - this is not to print dollars on a photocopy machine. You must be able to do this, but the technologies in your USA are lost.
          1. NordOst16
            NordOst16 23 August 2019 14: 03
            -11
            What technologies are lost there? Do you think that the production of fissile isotopes for thermonuclear munitions rests only on the enrichment of natural uranium? No, how would plutonium suit this. Yes, and in extreme cases, you can buy uranium from the same France, but it will sell as pretty. This is not counting the stockpiles of fissile materials left over from the disposal of old thermonuclear munitions.
            1. lucul
              lucul 23 August 2019 17: 13
              +2
              What technologies are lost there

              Well, what kind? Technology of flight to the moon for example)))
              France does not allow reserves to close all needs ...
              Americans too believed in color revolutions and completely launched conventional weapons))
              1. NordOst16
                NordOst16 23 August 2019 17: 51
                -3
                Well, apparently it is very necessary to fly to the moon. But for nuclear weapons there is a lot and is not necessary, plus there are enough of their reserves, and, unlike fuel for reactors, these fissile elements are not wasted practically.

                Well, I do not agree, they are just fine with conventional weapons, and the fleet is strong.

                Nevertheless, we would also have to figure out how to develop the economy because, whatever one may say, a strong army and navy is an indicator of the state’s power both scientifically and economically, and with the latter it is not so good with us, unfortunately.
            2. APASUS
              APASUS 23 August 2019 19: 41
              +1
              Quote: NordOst16
              What technologies are lost there?

              And what about the production technologies in the USA of MOX fuel?
              1. NordOst16
                NordOst16 23 August 2019 19: 49
                0
                Mmm ... if I'm not mistaken, the unfinished plant for its production is also in the process of development. We are better off with this, we have technologies and experimental production, but the leaders here are the French - they have long had a factory for the industrial production of MOX fuel.
                I have a suspicion that the States may simply buy technology from France, but this is not accurate. They focus on fusion technology more.
                1. APASUS
                  APASUS 23 August 2019 19: 51
                  +2
                  Quote: NordOst16
                  I have a suspicion that the States may simply buy technology from France, but this is not accurate. They focus on fusion technology more.

                  Can not :
                  The draft US federal budget for fiscal year 2020, prepared by the Donald Trump administration, puts an end to the plans for the construction of an MOX plant in this country.

                  Recall that in May 2018, the U.S. Department of Energy ordered to stop work on the construction of a plant for the production of MOX fuel for light water reactors in the Savannah River.

                  The ensuing series of litigations, supporters of the project lost and placed their last hopes on President Trump. However, the presidential draft budget for 2020 does not provide funding for the construction of the MOX plant.
                  1. NordOst16
                    NordOst16 23 August 2019 20: 00
                    -2
                    They built the plant using their own technologies, it may have come out, as often happens there, some technical difficulties that put an end to this program.
                    Although, it seems to me that the main nail in the coffin belonged to the economy. Now uranium is extremely cheap, there are excess uranium enrichment capacities in the market and, due to the Fukushima accident, changes in public opinion and lower cost of electricity production in other ways, reduction in the number of NPP units under construction, as well as their construction plans, which lower fuel demand. I think the Americans decided that this plant simply won’t beat itself off and decided not to finish it. We have the same problems by the way.
                    1. APASUS
                      APASUS 23 August 2019 20: 05
                      +1
                      Quote: NordOst16
                      I think the Americans decided that this plant simply won’t beat itself off and decided not to finish it. We have the same problems by the way.

                      This plant may not recapture itself at all. But the profit is formed from several factors. MOX fuel has a minimum amount of waste, this is one of the main advantages of this technology
                      1. NordOst16
                        NordOst16 23 August 2019 20: 16
                        0
                        Combustion of MOX fuel generates as much dirt as burning more conventional uranium fuel. The main idea of ​​this carnival was that it is possible to burn the produced plutonium, which remains in the spent fuel. But now, I hope so far, everything goes to the point that it is more profitable to send plutonium for storage until better times because it is not economically profitable.

                        The thing is that nuclear power is spinning in place because the temperature of the coolant is 280-290 degrees and the pressure is 7-8 MPa in front of the turbine - well, this is not serious already. Efficiency maximum 35-36%. And if we take into account the time of construction of the power unit (about 5 years or more) and its price (about 11 gigatons of greenery for nuclear power plants for 2 power units and a capacity of 1200 MW each), then it doesn’t look so rosy It needs higher steam parameters in front of the turbine. But fast sodium reactors, like other types, are still stalled. For money can be invested in other areas and get no less interesting results
                      2. APASUS
                        APASUS 23 August 2019 20: 33
                        +1
                        Quote: NordOst16
                        The thing is that nuclear power is spinning in place because the temperature of the coolant is 280-290 degrees and the pressure is 7-8 MPa in front of the turbine - well, this is not serious already. Efficiency maximum 35-36%. And if we take into account the time of construction of the power unit (about 5 years or more) and its price (about 11 gigatons of greenery for nuclear power plants for 2 power units and a capacity of 1200 MW each), then it doesn’t look so rosy It needs higher steam parameters in front of the turbine. But fast sodium reactors, like other types, are still stalled. For money can be invested in other areas and get no less interesting results

                        The fact is that there are several directions in nuclear energy. Some are looking for a system for raising efficiency, while others are forming a direction for finding new fuel, here is thorium and fission of the hydrogen nucleus, so we need to look where we will move
                      3. NordOst16
                        NordOst16 23 August 2019 21: 14
                        -1
                        Quote: APASUS
                        Some are looking for a system for raising efficiency

                        This is one of the critical parameters of any power plant and everyone is looking for ways to increase efficiency (switching to sodium is one of them).

                        Quote: APASUS
                        and others form the direction of the search for new fuel

                        One does not interfere with the other, and these are completely different directions (albeit in one area). And yes, there are more problems with thorium than with plutonium and uranium because thorium is not very suitable for fast neutron reactors.

                        Quote: APASUS
                        hydrogen fission

                        You most likely meant the synthesis reaction. But this is fusion energy and a completely different story. Although in heavy hydrogen reactors fission of a deuterium atom (hydrogen isotope) occurs under the influence of gamma quanta, but you hardly meant it.
          2. hydrox
            hydrox 23 August 2019 16: 34
            +4
            Sub-mattress lumber boobs are already piling up. Is it not for the rain? laughing
            But these creatures can easily ruin any exchange of views (especially the one that with 10 classes in the Maldives asks for a rupe for beer from the general store)!
            1. NordOst16
              NordOst16 23 August 2019 21: 15
              -2
              Enough to stink already, your positive attitude towards coprophilia has already been understood.
              1. hydrox
                hydrox 23 August 2019 22: 37
                0
                Why did you get that I like you as a substance?
                "Deimo will remain a deyme,
                Even though you shower it with stars! "(One of the greats) laughing
                1. NordOst16
                  NordOst16 23 August 2019 23: 43
                  -3
                  Oh, what a harsh statement.
                  Quote: hydrox
                  Why did you get that I like you as a substance?

                  I think if you removed the mirror a little further from the screen, then you would have seen much less recyclable materials)))
                  Quote: hydrox
                  "Deimo will remain a deyme,
                  Even though you shower it with stars! "(One of the greats)

                  And here I can not disagree with you.
                  1. hydrox
                    hydrox 24 August 2019 07: 04
                    -1
                    You, my dear, first you need to learn how to use a handkerchief and a table knife, and only then go out to people - and not to experts, but to genital ...
                    1. NordOst16
                      NordOst16 24 August 2019 09: 15
                      -1
                      In part, I can understand your zeal in attributing to other people the characteristics you took from the ceiling. But I’ll warn you, you want to seem so clever, but in fact, only expose yourself as a jester.
                      1. hydrox
                        hydrox 24 August 2019 11: 12
                        -1
                        Got it already ...
                        Gone, Liber Gopnik, before he set the dogs!
                      2. NordOst16
                        NordOst16 24 August 2019 11: 36
                        -3
                        Wow, they themselves went over to personality and were tired themselves. I will give advice for the future, may not thank, be calm and tolerant of the opinions of others, because yours is not always true.
          3. amr
            amr 24 August 2019 14: 55
            0
            they will print dollars and buy that uranium, so think that it’s easier to print dollars or produce uranium!
        3. Ehanatone
          Ehanatone 23 August 2019 13: 44
          +6
          "But that’s for sure that Russia’s as far as the capabilities of the United States on foot is to reach Beijing."
          Exactly, but only in the field of the production of nuclear materials, exactly the opposite ...
          1. NordOst16
            NordOst16 23 August 2019 14: 05
            -12
            Nothing, they have France for that. And nuclear charges rest not only on the number of fissile materials, but also on their delivery vehicles, but here the Russian Federation has problems because the Russian Federation cannot rivet as many "democratic and humane" delivery vehicles as the States can afford.
            1. Amateur
              Amateur 23 August 2019 14: 15
              +4
              for the Russian Federation will not be able to rivet as many "democratic and humane" delivery vehicles as the United States can afford.

              Therefore, Russia will only adopt "undemocratic and inhumane" delivery systems. And from the democratic, you can take yourself a bulk with a sable! drinks
              1. NordOst16
                NordOst16 23 August 2019 16: 19
                -4
                Then we will leave you the "stable" Sechins and Millers, as well as Serdyukov and other effective managers)))
              2. hydrox
                hydrox 23 August 2019 16: 39
                +1
                It's funny, but the liberda fucked up also snarls ...
                They believed Putin about their demise and decided to do a dump? laughing
                1. NordOst16
                  NordOst16 23 August 2019 17: 45
                  -2
                  You are also funny, fans of Nabiulin, Rotenberg, Sechin and Millers. Not yet bent under stability? There is no money, but are you holding on?)))
                  And exactly, critical thinking is not about people like you, because why have a king in your head if there is one in the whole country)))
                  1. hydrox
                    hydrox 23 August 2019 20: 04
                    +1
                    We’re not killing slugs, but sprinkled with cannon - wow, how fast they move towards the West - it's time for you to go! laughing
                    And it’s time for us to repair Russia.
                    1. NordOst16
                      NordOst16 23 August 2019 20: 08
                      -4
                      Well, I'm certainly glad that you are sending me to a brighter future, but still I want all of Russia to be able to see this bright future, and not just feed on promises.

                      Quote: hydrox
                      And we have to repair Russia

                      And you are a joker. We break and repair ourselves?)))
                      1. hydrox
                        hydrox 23 August 2019 20: 21
                        +2
                        Well, why so?
                        I broke and plundered the liberd, it is crap to this very day, we can only clean, tidy up and re-equip ...
                        But don’t think that we’ll only drive out the liberd: this is the most ... that ... also subject to liquidation ... if there are enough materials ...
                      2. NordOst16
                        NordOst16 23 August 2019 20: 36
                        -4
                        Quote: hydrox
                        Broke and plundered the liberd, to this day she spoils

                        As you roughly called the power vertical, the whole country elected it and the level of support was almost under 90% relatively recently.

                        Quote: hydrox
                        we can only clean, clean and rebuild

                        Well, yes, you need to correct your mistakes, some have already thought of it and take to the streets. I think sooner or later, and the rest will see.

                        Quote: hydrox
                        But don’t think that we’ll only drive out the liberd: this is the most ... that ... also subject to liquidation ... if there are enough materials ...

                        No, I didn’t understand you a bit, do you want to send the country to a brighter future or create North Korea No. 2? And you can interpret your words a little ambiguously.
                      3. hydrox
                        hydrox 23 August 2019 22: 29
                        +1
                        Those that rave about in the streets are rabsila for construction projects; she has no future and never will.
                        And there’s nothing to interpret: the liberda got it, it’s time for her to get out of the hill and to release the place for PEOPLE.
                      4. NordOst16
                        NordOst16 23 August 2019 22: 33
                        -2
                        Quote: hydrox
                        Those that rave about in the streets are rabsila for construction projects; she has no future and never will.

                        No, these people are quite worthy of respect for themselves because they got up and started to do at least something to improve the situation in Russia, unlike those who are used to being silent and waiting for handouts from the government, while suffering humiliation.

                        Quote: hydrox
                        And there’s nothing to interpret: the liberda got it, it’s time for her to get out of the hill and to release the place for PEOPLE.

                        Yes, it cleans up over the hillock, companies open there, move science, and all the "patriots" with a bottle of vodka under the fence in the Russian Federation remain. It is not "liberda" that interferes with life, but those who do not want to open their eyes and look beyond the TV, those who are used to waiting and doing nothing.
            2. lucul
              lucul 23 August 2019 17: 14
              +2
              Nothing, they have France for that. And nuclear charges rest not only on the number of fissile materials, but also on their delivery vehicles, but here the Russian Federation has problems because the Russian Federation cannot rivet as many "democratic and humane" delivery vehicles as the States can afford.

              I rumble in the voice - you slept the last 20 years
              Russia surpasses America in many ways in terms of armament. ))))
              1. NordOst16
                NordOst16 23 August 2019 17: 47
                -2
                Is it in which? Accidentally not in the navy or in the aircraft? Or maybe in the area of ​​drones?
                1. lucul
                  lucul 23 August 2019 17: 59
                  0
                  Is it in which? Accidentally not in the navy or in the aircraft? Or maybe in the area of ​​drones?

                  Don't you even know? )))
                  First air defense - the advantage is simply total. )))
                  Secondly, Russian chemists have finally solved the problem of solid fuel engines. And now solid fuel engines for Russian missiles are equal or superior to Western ones.
                  Rab is total superiority.
                  I will not even list all the novelties of the military of the Russian Federation.
                  A simple example - even against simple Caliber Americans absolutely !!! defenseless.
                  1. NordOst16
                    NordOst16 23 August 2019 18: 06
                    -2
                    Well, ground-based air defense - most likely you are right about this, but the air defense on their ships is much higher than what is installed on our ships, and with the installation of new zurs with args, the superiority will be huge.

                    About solid fuel did not hear. But for now, our Mace cannot but upset (well, if we compare the ratio of the maximum mass to be thrown to the total mass of the rocket).

                    EW - perhaps yes, although their EW stations on airplanes are at least not bad, and the new ones promise to be magnificent.

                    But the massive launch of cruise missiles and ours is not a fact that they will withstand because the Americans have a huge number of carriers and the number of missiles themselves is large.

                    So I would not be so categorical and they have a lot that I would like to see as part of our armed forces (well, analogues of course)
                    1. lucul
                      lucul 23 August 2019 18: 10
                      0
                      and they have a lot that I would like to see as part of our aircraft (well, analogues of course)

                      We simply DO NOT know what we have, except for special people of course. )))
                      For example, do you know how deep the dives are designed for Western submarines? 500m on average. And our Losharik sinks 5 km, for comparison - the deepest ship in Britain (bathyscaphe is not a submarine !!!!) does not sink deeper than 2.5 km)))
                      1. NordOst16
                        NordOst16 23 August 2019 19: 06
                        0
                        Well, he will go down to a depth of 5 km and, what next? You are warm and soft confused. A multi-purpose apl does not need this at all, and 500m is enough for her. Well, it may be so, but it’s unlikely that we have hidden somewhere half a hundred new ships of the 1st rank except those of which we know. Not all the shortcomings of our army can be so explained.
                      2. lucul
                        lucul 23 August 2019 19: 12
                        +1
                        The multi-purpose apl does not need this at all, and 500m is enough for her

                        Sure ? )))
                        And you ask the submariners - do they want their submarines to dive to a depth of at least 2 km)))
                      3. NordOst16
                        NordOst16 23 August 2019 19: 30
                        -2
                        Yes, the submariners would like a lot of things, and the underwater speed of 80 knots and at the same time be quieter than the ocean, and more missiles, and smaller sizes. But in reality, everything is more complicated because their desires limit the problems of economics and physics. The Soviet multipurpose nuclear submarine (the only one in the world and in its design) could sink to a depth of a little more than km. But she was hefty expensive and complicated.
                        So, His Majesty comes into a compromise and this is evident from Yasen. Yes, he has a working depth of 100 meters more, but there is nothing out of the ordinary. It carries more weapons, but its full displacement is greater, and indeed its size.
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                  1. NordOst16
                    NordOst16 23 August 2019 20: 59
                    -2
                    Quote: EXPrompt
                    Not in which, but in all key ones.
                    Nuclear forces - Russia has not lost the technology of creating nuclear weapons for the operation of uranium enrichment and production of plutonium, the United States has lost.

                    What, have you just lost so that no rocket takes off, not a single warhead explodes? Trump personally called you and said that?))) And yes, the whole world didn’t wedge on uranium because plutonium can also be used quite efficiently, and their old stocks of weapons-grade uranium and plutonium will last for more than a dozen generations (each side has worked in abundance). Well, yes, where do people get the information that the States cannot manufacture nuclear weapons - it’s not clear.

                    Quote: EXPrompt
                    Tanks - Obama has closed the project of creating a new MBT. And ride on stubby abrasha, which by the way have not bought a new year since 94.

                    Their Abrashas are constantly being modified and, in terms of their characteristics, are at least not inferior to modern T72 modifications. And if you look, the gun, ammunition and armor protection are still superior to ours. Armata was supposed to change this state of affairs, but so far nothing has been heard about mass production except promises. I really hope so far.

                    Quote: EXPrompt
                    Aviation - well, even in the Pentagon, the fucking F35 failure was generally recognized already.

                    Well, why do they consider fu35 a failure - I don’t understand either, because almost all industrialized countries want to buy it, there is a suspicion that this project failed only in the Russian and Chinese media. Also, do not forget that our Su57 is also a very crude project and it will take a single year to bring it to the right condition. F35 has a big handicap. I do not think that it is worth underestimating the American machine in this way, because this is perhaps the most dangerous thing that any military leader can do.

                    Quote: EXPrompt
                    Fleet - Here they are a new aircraft carrier in service for 2 years already can not, then the catapult does not work, then there is little ammunition lifts. Do you know a story with a closed one? this is very funny..

                    Well, new technologies are being tested on their new aircraft carriers, it’s not surprising (our first ship of Project 1144 was also not immediately accepted on combat duty). But there is one serious point here - they have aircraft carriers, but we have practically none. As well as technologies (and money) for the construction of large-capacity ships of the first rank (except for nuclear submarines). Do you know a story with Gorshkov? For example, I'm not funny, but sad. The frigate was built in 2006 and only recently became part of the fleet, so these are ships of relatively small displacement, what kind of dance will be with the destroyers (if they are still built) - one god knows. So with ocean-going surface ships of the first rank we have a huge problem that needs to be addressed. But it all comes down to money and time. And the first one is not enough for us (again, if we want to be a superpower, but if we roll our lips, then that's enough).

                    Quote: EXPrompt
                    And this year it’s even funnier, they adopted the new LRASM anti-ship missile system and put it into service in the 21st century.

                    And subsonic missiles, no matter how harmless they seemed, are very, very dangerous things. Especially for our fleet, which does not have support for AWACS in the ocean. Low visibility and flying at extremely low altitudes, coupled with the enormous range and ability of the US Navy to provide accurate target designation for our KUG - this is an extremely dangerous mixture. Supersonic anti-ship missiles have their problems in bulk and they are almost a panacea.

                    And so in many ways (((
                    1. EXPrompt
                      EXPrompt 24 August 2019 12: 24
                      0
                      And who said that they don’t fly - old rockets still fly ..
                      Ksati, by the way, in 18, one of the last test notes of the LGA3 minuteman30 ended with a self-destruction command, due to a deviation from the trajectory. So this is how this fool of the 1980s flies ..

                      Abrash --- yes, everything’s great, they’re remaking upgrade ... They didn’t buy new tanks for a long time.
                      You understand what will happen to the kostruktorskoy school, if they created the last tank in the 80s ... And indeed they now have it ...
                      The same is true with BT factories, rematching old tanks and producing new ones is not the same thing. And there’s also a bunch of allies producing trunks, electronics engines, etc., etc. These guys just remaking old trunks do not lose their competencies?


                      They release the Su57-F35 raw aircraft into mass production, we will release 19 units for army tests ... We Su57 is not the core of the Air Force, that’s the difference ..

                      Fleet..
                      What specific new technologies are brought to the forefront)))
                      They already do not even bring shells and rail to it. Too expensive for $ 800.000 for 1 shot of a caliber of 155mm to pay.

                      A subsonic rocket
                      Yes, for heaven’s sake, it’s invisible ... the question is different, it flies to the target leisurely, by the time it flies into the target’s square, the ship is no longer there ... went to the next one .... what does the rocket do?
                      That's right, beginner search .... makes the slide turn on the radar and makes a loop horizontally .. The class rocket glows like a Christmas tree in the Kremlin ...
                      And then about the invisibility of SLAM missiles, we all perfectly understand Syria. And these very ldrasm made just on the basis of the invisible Slam agm158, they are called Agm-158c.
                      1. NordOst16
                        NordOst16 24 August 2019 13: 34
                        -2
                        Quote: EXPrompt
                        And who said that they don’t fly - old rockets still fly ..
                        Ksati, by the way, in 18, one of the last test notes of the LGA3 minuteman30 ended with a self-destruction command, due to a deviation from the trajectory. So this is how this fool of the 1980s flies ..

                        What about general statistics? It’s not very bad there for the Militias, I’m certainly not an expert in this field, but I don’t think it is critical because, apparently, new types of fuel were tested on a rocket (solid fuel must be changed periodically if I’m not mistaken).

                        Quote: EXPrompt
                        Abrash --- yes, everything’s great, they’re remaking upgrade ... They didn’t buy new tanks for a long time.
                        You understand what will happen to the kostruktorskoy school, if they created the last tank in the 80s ... And indeed they now have it ...
                        The same is true with BT factories, rematching old tanks and producing new ones is not the same thing. And there’s also a bunch of allies producing trunks, electronics engines, etc., etc. These guys just remaking old trunks do not lose their competencies?

                        Of course, this will lead sooner or later to problems in the development and release of new technology. But, it seems to me, over 10 years, with the proper funding, this can be corrected. I think that they believe that the abramsyash will be enough for them for a decent period of time, and during this time they will come up with something new. But for sure they will face the same problems that we encountered during the construction of Gorshkov - a loss of competence in this area. And they do not focus on ground equipment, but on aviation and the navy.

                        Quote: EXPrompt
                        They release the Su57-F35 raw aircraft into mass production, we will release 19 units for army tests ... We Su57 is not the core of the Air Force, that’s the difference ..

                        This has its pluses - the more equipment is released, the faster the jambs will be in the design of aircraft systems. It is more expensive, but they save time due to resources and they can afford it.
                        We also announced plans for 70 cars (although they are unlikely to be released as much), although they have not been worked out to the end. Probably ours decided in this way to load enterprises and quickly bring Su57 to the proper level.
                        I am not an expert in this field, but something tells me that Su57 will draw a lot more blood from its creators and the more machines are built, the faster this process will go.

                        Quote: EXPrompt
                        Fleet..
                        What specific new technologies are brought to the forefront)))
                        They already do not even bring shells and rail to it. Too expensive for $ 800.000 for 1 shot of a caliber of 155mm to pay.

                        Well, not much information can be found about this project, but at least they are working on full electric movement there, which is a very promising area, a new ship control and maintenance system. Surely there still stuffed a mountain of all sorts of interesting things. Some of them (like rails and guided missiles for guns) will be thrown out as not meeting expectations, some will be used on other ships.
                        In order not to write about Zamvolty, it seems to me that even in the States it was more perceived as an experimental series. And this is not bad, because in the end the Americans will have in their hands proven technologies that they can put into the modernization and construction of a new series of Arly Berks or their replacement.
                        At the time of the USSR, we also built some nuclear submarines in a single copy, and they acted as stands for the development of technologies. It is expensive, it is necessary.

                        Quote: EXPrompt
                        A subsonic rocket
                        Yes, for heaven’s sake, it’s invisible ... the question is different, it flies to the target leisurely, by the time it flies into the target’s square, the ship is no longer there ... went to the next one .... what does the rocket do?
                        That's right, beginner search .... makes the slide turn on the radar and makes a loop horizontally .. The class rocket glows like a Christmas tree in the Kremlin ...

                        Well, firstly, the States, unlike the Russian fleet, due to air supremacy, can constantly monitor the coordinates of our ship groups and send their new location to their anti-ship missiles. We have a difficulty with this.
                        Secondly, this RCC, if my memory serves me, uses passive methods to search for targets - it tracks the operation of ship radars and determines the type of the ship and its position by their characteristics, and at the final stage uses the infrared seeker, so it will not light up.
                        And about her invisibility - no one, in good health, says that she is completely invisible. But thanks to the special coating, shape, small size and low altitude, it will be discovered much later.
                        Our supersonic anti-ship missiles have a large mass and that they travel most of the way at high altitude and only 100-150 (if not less) go down. And this makes it possible for AWACS aircraft and powerful radars of enemy ships to detect them earlier and begin interception. In the United States, the fleet begins to receive new missiles with an ARS GOS and a range of more than 300 km.
                        Our X101 also has a similar form, which, as it were, hints at the fact that the subsonic missiles are not so bad and hit their target.

                        Quote: EXPrompt
                        And then about the invisibility of SLAM missiles, we all perfectly understand Syria. And these very ldrasm made just on the basis of the invisible Slam agm158, they are called Agm-158c.

                        I can not say anything about this because, like, they threw axes there.
              2. hydrox
                hydrox 23 August 2019 20: 07
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                He did not sleep, he spoiled Russia all this time ... there was no time to track (and there are not enough brains! laughing) that in which he has neither ear nor snout ...
                1. NordOst16
                  NordOst16 23 August 2019 21: 06
                  -3
                  How sharp you are and how impudent bowel upset. As well as errors in the commentary mountain:

                  Quote: hydrox
                  he crap all this time

                  There was a mistake in the word "crap" - it would be correct to write "I studied and looked, but thought with my head."

                  Quote: hydrox
                  there was no time to track

                  It would be more correct to say: I watched with interest.

                  Quote: hydrox
                  Yes, and there are not enough brains!

                  Here the error is in whose characteristic this is, it would be correct to use it in relation to you.

                  Quote: hydrox
                  that in which he has neither ear nor snout ...

                  Here the error is similar to the previous one.
                  You can not thank.
          2. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 23 August 2019 14: 44
            +5
            Quote: Ehanatone
            Exactly, but only in the field of the production of nuclear materials, exactly the opposite ...

            Dear Pharaoh, you should not waste time on polemics - the under-mattress tribe is humming here for other purposes. There are not many, but the smell ... fellow wassat hi
            1. NordOst16
              NordOst16 23 August 2019 16: 50
              -4
              Well, yes, your stability is a mile away
        4. Sarmat Sanych
          Sarmat Sanych 23 August 2019 14: 59
          +3
          NordOst16, somethinglaughing? Who is "before Beijing"?)) Rosatom is the global leader of the nuclear industry, 68% of nuclear power plants under construction on the planet, 50% of all uranium enrichment on Earth, 60% of the world market of Ritegs, the only company with an economically efficient uranium enrichment technology, the only company capable of building and building nuclear icebreakers, reactors of generation 3+, closed cycle MOX fuel, floating nuclear power plants, nuclear propulsion systems and much more. 4 of the last five elements of the periodic table were created in Russia. Mattress with Russia in the nuclear industry does not even come close, their MOX fuel producers are 50% dependent on Russian supplies, and these underfineries that are "planning to produce plutonium" are unlikely to revive mattress mats, and in large volumes, even more so, technologies are completely lost. By the way, France will not help them either, the French have not been producing plutonium for a long time, especially in the amount necessary for the creation of nuclear weapons. So the affairs of the Ndostans are sad.
          1. NordOst16
            NordOst16 23 August 2019 16: 49
            -2
            Quote: Sarmat Sanych
            the only company with cost-effective uranium enrichment technology

            Well, do not, not the only one, the French and someone else owns the same technology.

            Quote: Sarmat Sanych
            the only company capable of building and building atomic icebreakers

            Well, the United States is the only country that builds nuclear aircraft carriers, and building them is almost easier than icebreakers.

            Quote: Sarmat Sanych
            3+ generation reactors

            These technologies are owned by France, USA, Kazakhstan, Japan and at the same time they are building these blocks.

            Quote: Sarmat Sanych
            Closed loop MOX fuel

            The only plant that produces mox on a more or less industrial scale is located in France. And not a single country has a complete closed cycle; all of our BNs are on uranium fuel.

            Quote: Sarmat Sanych
            50% MOX fuel dependent on Russian supplies

            They do not depend in any way, they simply do not exist.

            Quote: Sarmat Sanych
            By the way, France will not help them either, the French have not been producing plutonium for a long time

            They have a plant for the production of fuel moxs and if the Americans ask and pay well, how much is needed, they will do so. And for nuclear weapons there is not much needed, the reactor eats much more

            Quote: Sarmat Sanych
            these under-factories, which are of the type "planning to produce plutonium", are unlikely to revive mattress mats, and in large volumes, even more so, technologies are completely lost

            They may well buy plutonium from Japan (from which a decent amount has accumulated or from France), which in the future will only need to be cleared of decay products.
            What is more critical is that we have all lines for the production of reactors, equipment and fuel purchased abroad.
            And do not forget that the level of science in the States is decent and also a lot of money, unlike the Russian Federation. So for them I would not be worried
            1. lucul
              lucul 23 August 2019 17: 18
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              Well, do not, not the only one, the French and someone else owns the same technology.

              You confuse the warm with the soft)))
              The West ALWAYS was inferior to Russians in nuclear reactors. It is enough to compare the reactors - the West was never able to master the welding technology that withstands enormous pressure in the reactor.
              1. NordOst16
                NordOst16 23 August 2019 17: 35
                +1
                Yeah, I lagged behind, just call me at least one reactor with a water-electric power of more than 1200 because VVER 1300 have not been built yet. French 1600 EPR, Koreans with their blocks at 1400. I do not see any lag.
                1. lucul
                  lucul 23 August 2019 17: 42
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                  Yeah, I lagged behind, just call me at least one reactor with a water-electric power of more than 1200 because VVER 1300 have not been built yet. French 1600 EPR, Koreans with their blocks at 1400. I do not see any lag.

                  Check out the difference in reactor manufacturing techniques)))
                  The West uses an almost "boiling" reactor, with a high operating temperature, on the verge of melting the metal. The Russians have a much colder reactor and much easier to control. The West simply cannot make the same reactor vessel as the Russians.
                  Therefore, the Russians - much safer reactors - are purely constructive.
                  1. NordOst16
                    NordOst16 23 August 2019 19: 24
                    +1
                    Mmm ... read the characteristics of pressure vessel reactors and pressure vessels and you will see that you wrote, to put it mildly, nonsense. Because in boiling reactors the temperature and pressure in the core (AZ) are lower than in reactors under pressure because they are single-circuit and there are no losses on steam generators (they are heat exchangers, I forgot what they are called correctly). And certainly, in water-cooled reactors, the coolant temperature is not at all near the melting point of the alloys from which the reactors and equipment are made (the temperature in reactors under pressure (such as VVER) is not more than 310-315, like, for boilers less than 300)
                    And then check out the pricelist of foreign companies: AP1400, EPR, and there are several other models there - these are all pressure vessel reactors, their design is similar to WWER reactors.
                    So we have structurally similar reactors when it comes to VVER, but at the same time, our reactors are at least no worse in safety, but they are lagging behind in power, I would like electric at the level of 1600-1800 without a significant increase in costs and preferably with accelerated construction, and it’s directly the Achilles' heel of nuclear energy, for those nuclear power plants are still long-lived. But, as I understand it, there is a problem with the production of steam generators and turbines (although it’s strange here because we produce (and partly buy) French and American steam turbines, and they have an upper limit, if I’m not mistaken, of 1800 MW. It seems to me that we are lagging just in the production of fairly large cases, but this is my opinion and it may be wrong.

                    And the fact that there is an advantage in fast sodium (BN) is undeniable, but there are problems with the fact that this type of reactor is relatively new and not so well-developed and their economic efficiency is in question.
            2. Sarmat Sanych
              Sarmat Sanych 23 August 2019 21: 38
              +2
              NordOst16, or whatever your father says, it's hare to write about where you don't understand nicherta. In addition to the structure of Rosatom, only two French and Anglo-Dutch companies can enrich in the world (plus China, but with our help and participation, therefore we do not name it), but only we have an ECONOMICALLY EFFECTIVE technology. Is it clear now or should I write it in syllables? Further, neither Japan nor Korean Nuclear have turnkey nuclear power plant technologies, there is something with the help of the French, something with the help of mattress mats, they are not able to, and their latest reactors are only 3, up to generation 3+ there to plow and plow, and they have not really begun to build a three-ruble note yet, so far only preparation, and Russia is building 68% of ALL NEW NPPs ON EARTH. Do you feel the difference in the total domination of Rosatom?) Now, according to Areva and Westinghouse, their 3+ idle projects have failed enchantingly, the mattress has been building its two units in China for 11 years, exceeding the budget by one and a half times and has not brought it to mind, at the last moment there is still and the pumps began to collapse, then Westinghouse went bankrupt and the Chinese decided to bring it up themselves, the reactor has not yet reached its declared capacity, some valve is constantly failing, while it is under a tightly welded lid. The French, in turn, did not build their 15+ for the customer for 3 years, exceeding the estimate to an unimaginable 20 billion euros for two blocks, after that they gave up all attempts and, except for the British tender, decided not to participate anywhere else. And Rosatom has a portfolio of orders of $ 150 billion, Belarus, China, Iran, Hungary, India, Finland, Bangladesh, Egypt, etc. - somewhere it has already been commissioned, somewhere new construction is starting, somewhere they are preparing to put it into operation, everyone is waiting for our nuclear units. By the way, since only Rosatom can solve the problem of electricity shortage (according to the IEA's recommendation, the nuclear power plant should make up 20% of the planet's energy balance), the UN concluded an ENERGY-2050 agreement with it. Feel the scale.
              Now what kind of "only plant" they wrote aboutlaughing? Back in the late 2000s, the paddlers tried to make fuel assemblies with plutonium and a closed cycle, a little even went, but they didn’t really abandon it. But here at the MCC a year ago we made the first 40 fuel assemblies of a new technological order and essentially closed the waste cycle, even the IAEA recognized this.
              Now, what does "not depend" on anyone?) Mattress is 50% dependent on our supplies of enriched uranium, they themselves openly admit this. And it cannot be otherwise, Russia has half of the world market.
              And finally, what kind of factory were you whistling about? Plutonium production plants are located on Earth only in Russia, with 4 units and gigantic volumes, the rest have either small production or mothballed with little chances of recovery. On nuclear weapons, "you don't need much", seriouslywassat? Neither Japosia and France will be able to meet the demand of Matrasia if they decide to carry out a real modernization of the arsenal and get on with the current one. And what is interesting about Atommash, TVEL, ASE and other enterprises "purchased lines abroad", enlighten us? Just to blurt out, nobody on the Internet will ask in person, right? Just so you know, in the Russian nuclear industry the share of domestic equipment is over 97%, and this is logical, NOBODY in the world simply does nothing of the kind, there are no analogues or needs.
              And about the "level of American science" I am generally silent, they not only destroyed their Westinghouse and did not master enrichment, but even lagged behind Korea in the atom. Even giant GE is now falling apart on the brink of bankruptcygood.
              1. NordOst16
                NordOst16 23 August 2019 23: 40
                -2
                Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                but ECONOMICALLY EFFICIENT technology is ours alone.

                After how many liters of vodka did you come to this result? I would really like to read articles where it is written.

                Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                Is it clear now or write in syllables?

                Better reset the links to the resources where you found this information.


                Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                Further, neither Japan nor Korean Nuclear have turnkey nuclear power plant technologies, there is something with the help of the French, something with the help of mattress mats, they are not able to, and their latest reactors are only 3, up to generation 3+ there plow and plow

                Where did you read that there reactors do not reach the 3+ generation (although the 3+ designation is very doubtful because it was invented by French marketers for their new project - EPR). Well and yes, nuclear energy is a very competitive market and the fact that they buy the best equipment abroad is a normal practice. If you look at Russia, I can give a few examples (these are the ones I read about, but in reality there are probably more components bought abroad):
                1) NPPs of our design (at least those NPPs that Rosatom is constructing abroad) are supplied with German-made automated process control systems (Siemens) and only relatively recently began shifts with the production of elements of this system in the Russian Federation (if I am not mistaken, then we bought the technology from the Germans ) I think those that are being built in the Russian Federation are also equipped with the same systems.
                2) Turbines for nuclear power plants are fast and slow. Both of them are manufactured in Russia, but if the former are manufactured entirely using Russian technologies, the latter are produced jointly with Alstom Power Systems (which has been part of General Electric since 2016) and are called ARABELLE ™. High-speed turbines, if I am not mistaken, cannot be manufactured for power units with a capacity of more than 1-1,2 GW. Still low-speed turbines are manufactured at Turboatom, but Rosatom is unlikely to cooperate with them.
                So our nuclear power plants are being built, at least, with the help of Americans and Germans. Well, nothing bothers us.

                Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                and they haven’t really begun to build a three-ruble note yet, while only preparation

                This should be left without comment.

                Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                Russia builds 68% of ALL NEW NPP ON THE GROUND

                Well, the good news is good news.


                Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                the mattress built its two blocks in China for 11 years, it exceeded the estimate by one and a half times and didn’t bring it to mind, at the last moment there the pumps started to collapse, then Westinghouse went bankrupt and the Chinese decided to finish it by themselves, the reactor has not yet reached the declared power, some valve constantly fails, while under a tightly welded lid. The French, in turn, for the customer for 15 years have not built their 3+, exceeding the estimate to an unimaginable 20 billion euros for two blocks, after that they abandoned all attempts and, except for the British tender, decided not to participate anywhere else.

                Yes, this is the failure of our competitors that Rosatom successfully took advantage of. I can say even more about the French and Americans - because of the long period of inactivity (when new NPP units were not built), there was a loss in the cadre of builders and engineers who were supposed to build these NPPs. Of course, I don’t have direct access to the NPP documentation, but they, as I read, had completely effective and progressive blocks, but they came up against what they did not expect — loss of builders' skills, this is not new to us, the same problem, but in other areas. But at the same time, one should not lose vigilance because it is a matter of time when a new skeleton of engineers and builders will gather from them. But the Koreans were quite actively building their nuclear power plants and they won a tender like with the UAE (or Saudi Arabia - I don’t remember exactly), so they are a very dangerous competitor. The same can be said about the Chinese. They will soon enter the foreign market with their projects.

                Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                By the way, since only Rosatom can solve the problem of electricity shortage (according to the IEA's recommendation, the nuclear power plant should make up 20% of the planet's energy balance), the UN concluded an ENERGY-2050 agreement with it. Feel the scale.

                Not only Rosatom, there are other companies, even though they are not in the best shape (French and American) or just gaining momentum (China and Kazakhstan), they are very dangerous competitors, which are simply dangerous to ignore.
                Look at all these plans extremely critically because they like to change every 3-4 years and at the same time very unexpectedly (as happened after the accident at the Fukushima nuclear power plant).

                Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                Now what kind of "only plant" did they write about? Back in the late 2000s, the frogs tried to make fuel assemblies with plutonium and a closed cycle, they even went a little, but they did not really abandon them. But at our Mining and Chemical Combine, a year ago, they made the first 40 fuel assemblies of a new technological order and, in fact, closed the waste cycle, this was admitted even by the IAEA.

                The French launched the lines at the Kadarash and Meloks plants a long time ago and, in 2013, processed a total of 25000 tons of SNF and produced nearly 2000 tons of MOX fuel. Which is not small, especially considering the fact that our plant (but so far, if I'm not mistaken, on the experimental line) started operating somewhere in 2018. So the success of the French is very significant and they came close to a closed cycle before ours.
                It is worth saying that MOX fuel is currently experiencing hard years due to a large excess of uranium enrichment and production capacities - buying uranium is now much more profitable than bothering with MOX fuel and this trend will not change soon due to a decrease in nuclear development plans energy in the world.
                Also, we have not yet completely resolved the problems of nitride fuel for fast neutron reactors, and of tolerant fuel for thermal neutron reactors.

                Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                Now, what does "not depend" on anyone?) Mattress is 50% dependent on our supplies of enriched uranium, they themselves openly admit this. And it cannot be otherwise, Russia has half of the world market.

                Yes, in terms of supplies for nuclear power plants, yes, but do not mix the requirements for fissile materials for nuclear energy (well, all kinds of scientific reactors) and for the weapons complex.

                The second part of the answer is below.
                1. Sarmat Sanych
                  Sarmat Sanych 28 August 2019 09: 48
                  0
                  I was away, so I do not immediately respond to your feedback. Although it is not particularly necessary to react here, and you are giving the back, fully agreeing with the global dominance of Rosatom in the global nuclear industry, only 68% of the construction of new nuclear power plants on the planet speak for themselves. The big contrast has changed compared to the first review.smile... I will tell you briefly about individual details. Even the people of the IAEA admit that Rosatom has the highest profitability enrichment technology, our centrifuges are the ultimate in engineering, the French are nervously smoking. Read, educate yourself, Google to help. Further, the automatic control system on new projects is of its own for the simple reason that the Germans do not reach ours, and it has nothing to do with Siemens. In terms of turbines, NPPs are mainly supplied by Power Machines (by the way, a year ago, all assets were completely transferred to Russian legalization), one of the world leaders in high-speed ones, and Alstom (by the way, the Americans have not yet taken possession of him) forced to localize production by more than 50%, and completely Russian analogs are on the way. There is nothing to buy from Turboatom, it is covered with an inter-pelvis. By the blocks, the French and former Americans have them "very effective" only on paper advertising brochures, but in fact they are not very good, as practice has shown. The Koreans really won the tender in the UAE, but the fact that they are not being implemented on a turnkey basis, and even within the specified time frame, I have practically no doubt that there is neither experience nor Rosatom's capabilities, plus their project of a giant bloated reactor raises a lot of questions. The Chinese, all the more so, in cooperation with the French and the British in England itself cannot even start their only foreign project, and the price tag is already higher than that of a similar Russian one THREE TIMESlaughing. Now, regarding MOX fuel, you confuse it with a "closed cycle", it doesn't matter what the paddling pools have been recycled. And the plant started operating at the MCC long before 2018, industrial assembly is already underway, recently 40 new ones were shipped to the Beloyarsk NPP unit, Rosatom is the leader in this. There is no "overabundance" of enrichment capacities, and the world reserves of U-235, as is known, are much lower than those stated earlier, plus the waste has accumulated critically, therefore we have caught the right wave and remember its fruits. Now for plutonium, how much of it can be extracted in large quantities from nuclear power plants and how many decades do you need to do this?) Of course, you need to clean up over time from the decay products, from the accumulated America, a number of other unpleasant things, but you are sure that mattresses can still do this in large volumes? By the way, the French and plutonium themselves need to, they still can’t finish 51 kt warheads on the M-300, they only mastered 100 kt. On the machines. Yes, there are problems, but the entire Russian defense industry and the nuclear industry have been actively switching to domestic (including CNC) for the last 5 years, back in 2013, the share of Russians in our market was 5%, now it is 30%, our machine tool industry is growing 12-15% per year. Well, in terms of the share of equipment, take any foreign contract of Rosatom, for example, the Hungarian "Paks" for $ 15 billion, how much will the share of foreign machines and other small things be in it in dollars? That's right - crumbs, the State Corporation takes all the profit margins. Now about analogs, what do they "do"? Nuclear-powered icebreakers do? Do floating nuclear power plants do? Atomic batteries 8 × 8 cm do? Does anyone make nuclear installations? Nobody in the world, except Rosatom, does all this and much more, and it will not be able to do it for another 20 years. In general, guys, I am really amazed by the indiscriminate moaning of both Russia and its industry and the geopolitical achievements in general, not just on the web, but even specifically on this site, which seems to be "patriotic". I, unlike many here, due to the specifics of my activity, was in a dozen countries, I am not familiar with their industry and economy from notes on the Internet. And what many consider "they are developing" is not even close. GE kicks up, this is a medical fact, relatively recently it was one of the rulers of energy mash, electrical products, car building and much more, and now it is not even in the top-5 in car building, but the share of Russian car building in the world market is already above 15% , soon 20% will be. By the way, is it aware that Russia occupies the 4th place in the world in PPP per capita industrial production along with the same indicator in the USA (France, Italy, Britain, India, Canada and Korea are far behind)? Then we open Factbook CIA, we look, we read and we are surprised. In Matrasia, industrial production has been falling for 28 years in a row, and 85% of GDP is made up of services, stock trading and financial speculation. Like in Britain, by the way. But according to the IMF, our real GDP is about 2 times higher even in nominal terms, the rest is classified. The last report of the Fund was at the end of May, and ofigeli considered that about 75% of the economy is state-owned, and the annual turnover of only the first 26 state-owned companies is higher than the entire GDP. And it is not surprising, because the GtoG sector does not go through any open statements, and foreign "partners" are not supposed to know about it.
              2. NordOst16
                NordOst16 23 August 2019 23: 40
                -1
                Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                And finally, what plant were you whistling about? Only Russia has plants for the production of plutonium on the Earth, with 4 units and gigantic volumes, the rest have either small-scale production or canned production with little chance of recovery.

                Again, after what bottle of vodka did you come to this conclusion? If you look at plutonium production as a whole, then each nuclear power plant, each power unit is a plutonium production plant. SNF is reprocessed (during which plutonium is extracted from waste) in the Russian Federation, mainly at the Mayak plant and in small quantities at the Mining and Chemical Combine and other plants (I may be wrong, so correct it), and the MCC is the most interesting because the latest technologies are being tested there ...
                France has the largest processing complexes and wants to build a similar Japan (but who will give them). Britons closed their factories like the Americans.

                Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                Neither Japosia and France will be able to satisfy the demand of Matrasia if they decide to carry out a real modernization of the arsenal and get along with the current one.

                Such huge capacities are not needed to modernize the nuclear potential. Because plutonium was originally used with high purity, and its half-life was quite long, there were also reserves of weapons-grade uranium withdrawn from old warheads (during the Cold War they made 70-80 thousand munitions per snout), this is enough to collect 5-6 thousand warheads. And for the purification of plutonium, very large capacities are not necessary because there is no problem to separate 239 plutonium isotopes from a mixture of 239, 240 and 241 plutonium isotopes. And you just need to clean it of decay products, which vary greatly in chemical properties.
                What is now planned for construction in Russia is large complexes for industrial processing of spent nuclear fuel, for the weapons complex these capacities are excessive.

                Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                And what is interesting about Atommash, TVEL, ASE and other enterprises "purchased lines abroad", enlighten us? Just to blurt out, nobody on the Internet will ask in person, right?

                Hammer in Yandex "new Atommash machines (well, you can change Atommash to another name)" and learn a little about where the equipment for production is purchased. This is logical because we have big problems with the production of high-precision machine tools, and the nuclear industry is in great need of it. It is clear that not all will write, because how to drink to give, some "got out from under the floor" as in the old days. But 97% are still pink dreams.

                Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                NOBODY in the world just does nothing of the kind, there are neither analogues nor needs.

                They make it, and fabricate the fuel, and make similar equipment. Do not go too far. The successes of Rosatom are impressive, but still not the whole world converged on it with a wedge.

                Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                And about the "level of American science" I am generally silent, they not only destroyed their Westinghouse and did not master enrichment, but even lagged behind Korea in the atom. Even giant GE is now falling apart on the brink of bankruptcy.

                Everyone has crises; GE is too big to fall apart; it’s like a drink to give the government will pull to the surface. And it’s not so bad with him as it may seem, this company is going through the perestroika stage, as time will always show whether it was successful or not.
                But the level of science in the States is still quite high and there are funds, in this area they have given slack, but I did not really hope for it, with their industrial and scientific schools, restoration is only a matter of time.

                As a result, I would like to say that Rosatom is one of not many examples of a successful Russian company that not only survived in a highly competitive environment, but also took a worthy position and became a leader in the nuclear field. I hope it will work out just as well in the space and aviation industries. After all, only leadership in such high-tech industries determines the economic and technological power of the state.
  2. rocket757
    rocket757 23 August 2019 12: 48
    +2
    John Bolton, an adviser to the President of the United States on security issues, also joined in the inspection of American nuclear facilities.

    Especially these smiles .... touches, against the background of a sound device!
    Here it is the essence, grinning the beast amid the fact that no normal person will entertain!
    1. NordOst16
      NordOst16 23 August 2019 19: 53
      -2
      Well, we are happy to accept new ships and nuclear submarines for service, although it is difficult to suspect these machines are designed for something other than "bringing good and bringing joy to enemies."
  3. Republican
    Republican 23 August 2019 12: 51
    -25
    Well guys, did you want an arms race with the USA? Enjoy ...
    The very fact of realizing all the industrial and economic power of the United States and at the same time the incredible desire of local "readers" to resist this country is very amusing. The Cold War taught nothing. Well look forward to a repeat of the Caribbean and missile crisis of the 1960s and 1980s. After all, the majority of the population of the Russian Federation is "ABSOLUTELY" confident that this confrontation will not lead to very risky consequences for the country! This is what happens to people when education is lame.
    1. Ezekiel 25-17
      Ezekiel 25-17 23 August 2019 13: 01
      +9
      What do you have to offer? By the way, I hasten to notify you that for the destruction of your employers you do not need to get involved in an arms race, you just need to achieve a certain number of warheads, somewhere around 3500-4000 on strategic carriers and EVERYTHING is enough, and this configuration is achievable.
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 23 August 2019 16: 52
        0
        ... and this is even without taking into account the Poseidons.
    2. ser56
      ser56 23 August 2019 13: 10
      +8
      Quote: Republican
      awareness of the entire industrial and economic power of the United States

      maybe the king is naked? hi like they only have a public debt of 21trl bully
      Quote: Republican
      confront this country.

      what to do - our country has its own interests, and the US is climbing to our borders ... request
      Quote: Republican
      Well, we look forward to a repeat of the Caribbean and missile crises of the 1960s and 1980s.

      Did we place the tomahawks in Romania? bully
      Quote: Republican
      That's what happens to people when education is lame.

      Are you talking about yourself or the US population? feel
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 23 August 2019 18: 09
        -1
        It is he who recalls his youth: two years in each class and drove out to clean garbage chutes, because even the second-graders could see the foolishness from a distance ... laughing
    3. Nasrat
      Nasrat 23 August 2019 13: 12
      +10
      Did you find Russian useful in the USA? ... while Russia stands, you will have this job, the job - the bot! laughing Remember David - Russia feeds your family. bully
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 23 August 2019 13: 23
        +2
        He only understands that he is eating away with his family in Russia - but the freebie will end soon ...
    4. Puzoter
      Puzoter 23 August 2019 13: 16
      +5
      Maybe you want an arms race with Russia? Based on your logic, no. And if not, then get the hell out of Donbass, Kharkov and Odessa.
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 23 August 2019 18: 12
        0
        ... as well as from Dnepropetrovsk, Sumy, Zaporozhye, Kherson, Nikolaev and Kirovograd
    5. Shuttle
      Shuttle 23 August 2019 13: 29
      +4
      Quote: Republican
      Well guys, did you want an arms race with the USA? Enjoy ...
      The very fact of realizing all the industrial and economic power of the United States and at the same time the incredible desire of local "readers" to resist this country is very amusing. The Cold War taught nothing. Well look forward to a repeat of the Caribbean and missile crisis of the 1960s and 1980s. After all, the majority of the population of the Russian Federation is "ABSOLUTELY" confident that this confrontation will not lead to very risky consequences for the country! This is what happens to people when education is lame.


      Forest ... Night .. Sits Rosatom on the edge of a large cliff and shouts:
      - JNFL ... USEC!
      Areva approaches him from behind:
      - Hey, Rosatom, it's good to yell, night, everyone is sleeping!
      - Fuck off, Westinghouse, don’t bother! JNFL! USEC!
      - Rosatom, do not anger me, otherwise I'll throw it off a cliff!
      - She's not a Kumar! USEC!
      - Well, got it!
      Areva accelerates to throw Rosatom off a cliff, but Rosatom at the last moment steps aside and Areva falls off a cliff ... Rosatom sits back:
      - Areva !! Areva!
      Westinghouse comes up behind him ...
    6. Aqr009
      Aqr009 23 August 2019 14: 42
      0
      the fact of awareness of the entire industrial and economic power of the United States

      Apparently it should look something like this laughing
    7. lucul
      lucul 23 August 2019 17: 21
      0
      Well guys, did you want an arms race with the USA? Enjoy ...

      Aha-ahah - all that the USSR needed to win was simply "not to chew snot".
      Now the situation is exactly the opposite - the West has moved production to China and it will simply lose the new arms race)))
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 23 August 2019 12: 55
    +2
    modernization “aims to so that US partners see the revitalization of the program in the field of nuclear energy "
    We were inspired, once again convinced that the United States was on guard of their security and rushed to replenish the NATO budget, first 2%, and then 4%. At the same time, a signal to Russia and China that the arms race is starting to gain momentum.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 23 August 2019 16: 49
      -1
      Why do we need a race?
      With this stupidity, let the Yankees indulge, replacing their rusty Minutmen with something fresher. Again, there is no fresh plutonium for warheads ... Sadly.
      All that remains for us is to upgrade the carriers, and this is MUCH cheaper than the Yankees to replay the entire strike system.
  5. Alex Nevs
    Alex Nevs 23 August 2019 13: 16
    +2
    Hiroshima and Nagasaki ... and they are smiling - They have fun.
  6. eagle owl
    eagle owl 23 August 2019 15: 04
    +4
    The problem is that plutonium technology has already been lost in 30 years, but this is not so bad - personnel who can work with plutonium have been lost in 30 years.
    That is, you can send at least a hundred points to Boltunov anywhere, but apart from the cut, no fi-ha will come out. There is SOME and NOTHING to work
  7. E.S.
    E.S. 23 August 2019 16: 51
    +2
    Quote: NordOst16
    Well, we hardly know exactly how far Mr. Bolton is from Comrade Beria, but it’s for sure what the USA’s capabilities of Russia, like Beijing on foot, are.

    Azochenway! You say so, as if America had already made the first centrifuge to enrich uranium!
  8. Amateur
    Amateur 23 August 2019 17: 06
    -1
    Quote: NordOst16
    Then we will leave you the "stable" Sechins and Millers, as well as Serdyukov and other effective managers)))

    And we can either send them to you either in the USA or in Israel. Or maybe even VNA Ukraine. Is free. Use on health. drinks
  9. Old26
    Old26 23 August 2019 17: 07
    0
    Quote: hydrox
    You can’t be like that ... (oh, I’m not Zadornov!) :: Russia holds about 80% of the world’s fissile material technology in its hands, and all liberties should know that Russia’s plutonium reserves are estimated in tons and in the USA - in kilograms with lost mix selection technologies.

    Do not write nonsense. Around the middle of the last decade, the quantity of weapons-grade plutonium in Russia was estimated at about 140-160 tons, in the United States - from 90 to 100 tons. You have the same stocks in kilograms. Do not look at the world through pink glasses. Then removing them - the reality is far from so rosy. The American weapons and nuclear complex has problems, no one argues, but to say that they are in full ... is silly and short-sighted. They are solving the issues of modernization of ammunition and their disposal now, the issues of creating new ammunition are now in the process of solution. And here the main thing is not even money, but the time needed to create, modernize and certify all elements of the US nuclear weapons complex. Therefore, they will not receive new ones before the end of the next tenfold.

    Quote: Amateur
    Urenco plant (Urenco is owned in equal shares by three companies: Ultra-Centrifuge Nederland NV (owned by the government of the Netherlands), Uranit GmbH (owned in equal shares by the German energy companies E.ON and RWE), Enrichment Holdings Ltd (owned by the UK government, managed by Shareholder Executive) in the United States is now the only fuel enrichment plant in America. There was a USEC plant that used gaseous diffusion uranium enrichment technology (much less cost-effective than modern gas centrifuge technology). This plant was closed in 2013, and the new the USEC project - "American gas centrifuge" - requires more and more cash injections, and it is not known when it will be launched.

    Enrich uranium - this is not to print dollars on a photocopy machine. You must be able to do this, but the technologies in your USA are lost.

    They know how to enrich uranium, although not in such a large quantity as they need. At one time, they relied on the gas diffusion method of enrichment and are now forced to catch up with us in the centrifuge method. For the needs of the US energy, they use the capacity of the Urenco plant. For military needs (reactors), old uranium reserves extracted from the BG are used. 10 years enough for him
    1. lucul
      lucul 23 August 2019 17: 24
      +1
      Nonsense do not write

      Indeed - you are aware that nuclear warheads have their own resources and must be updated.
      But Plutonium is produced in nuclear reactors, which the West has covered almost everything. And now Rosatom is practically a monopolist in the reactor market. And this suggests that the Russians have Plutonium - even eat with a spoon.
      1. pafegosoff
        pafegosoff 23 August 2019 18: 39
        0
        Rosatom is almost a monopolist in Uranus-235.
        From 1949 to 1962, four diffusion uranium enrichment plants were launched in the Soviet Union: in Novouralsk at the Ural Electrochemical Plant, in Seversk at the Siberian Chemical Plant, in Angarsk at the Electrolysis Chemical Plant and the Electrochemical Plant in Zelenogorsk. And then we switched to a more effective one. In 1992, gas centrifuge technology in Russia completely replaced energy-intensive gas diffusion.
  10. Old26
    Old26 23 August 2019 17: 31
    +2
    Quote: lucul
    Nonsense do not write

    Indeed - you are aware that nuclear warheads have their own resources and must be updated.
    But Plutonium is produced in nuclear reactors, which the West has covered almost everything. And now Rosatom is practically a monopolist in the reactor market. And this suggests that the Russians have Plutonium - even eat with a spoon.

    You will be surprised Vitaly, but our weapons-grade plutonium production reactors are also shut down.
    1. lucul
      lucul 23 August 2019 18: 42
      0
      You will be surprised Vitaly, but our weapons-grade plutonium production reactors are also shut down.

      Well, that’s what it is.
      But the main thing is that there is raw material, and enrichment can be quickly established ....
    2. hydrox
      hydrox 23 August 2019 19: 55
      -1
      You can’t keep up with life like that :: BN-600 has been operating since 1980, and BN-800 has been plowed since 2015. You really don’t know that these reactors produce so much plutonium that you don’t have time to burn? And after all, no one is going to stop these reactors, since they are included in the production cycles of nuclear power plants.
      Get off the striped mattress! laughing
  11. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 23 August 2019 18: 30
    0
    They have bad business, if there is not enough strength and mind to enrich Uranium-235 to a fighting state of mind. Plutonium, it is obtained from the waste of nuclear reactors. The very same Iran has long accumulated cheap plutonium 239 for itself, while getting ultra-enriched U-235 is a problem.
    1. lucul
      lucul 23 August 2019 18: 43
      0
      They have bad business, if there is not enough strength and mind to enrich Uranium-235 to a fighting state of mind.

      But ordinary inhabitants do not know this simple truth ....
  12. Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 24 August 2019 10: 49
    0
    This link is not deterrence, but intimidation. Who are they going to restrain if nobody is going to attack them anyway?
  13. Amateur
    Amateur 24 August 2019 15: 33
    -1
    NordOst16 (Vladislav)
    ... Again, after what bottle of vodka did you come to this conclusion? If you look at the production of plutonium as a whole, then every nuclear power plant, every power unit - this is a plant for the production of plutonium. ...

    Personally, I have only one association with this NordOst16: "Spit in the eyes - God's dew". While 16 may mean age, persistence in defending your crazy ideas is worthy of better use.
    But in general
    Praise and slander accepted indifferently.
    And do not dispute the fool.
    A.S. Pushkin
  14. EXPrompt
    EXPrompt 25 August 2019 13: 04
    0
    Quote: NordOst16
    You can find this information, but at least they are working on full electric movement there, which is a very promising area, a new ship control and maintenance system. Surely there still stuffed a mountain of all sorts of interesting things. Some of them (like rails and guided missiles for guns) will be thrown out as not meeting expectations, some will be used on other ships.
    To not write about Zamvolty, it seems to me that sales


    Nefiga yourself, a mini series for debugging of 3 destroyers Zamvolt .. Not expensive for experimental vessels?
    By the way, initially according to the program, they would have had to rivet as many as 32 pieces before our time.

    about Abrash ..
    Do not lose competence .. And already lost. 2 generations (40 years) of designers did not design the tank.

    Su57-f35
    Everything would be fine if it weren’t for one thing .. The development process was delayed. And then there are examples in aviation, it’s not a fact that, as you say, a large series of crude fighter is good .. It’s not a fact that your original F35 mod1 can be upgraded in 10 years, and reached the finish modification ..

    Rockets ...
    Ik it will include your homing head at an altitude of 20 meters?

    You do not know, during the Soviet era, a space tracking system was deployed in the world's oceans for the Liana aircraft carrier groups. I don’t remember the name of the modern analogue in the Russian Federation, but this system exists, and it is definitely updated in orbit. So sleep well in the Russian Federation, each aircraft carrier trough is being cut off by the maid in YUSA.
    And the combat value of the trough itself in our time is much less.
    In fact, all directions for an attack by the Russian Federation are blocked, except for the North Sea - Norway - the Barents Sea .. And there, before f18 or a rocket flies somewhere, it will deal with the most powerful northern groups of the Russian Air Force, layered air defense system, and Northern Fleet.
    In short, an aircraft carrier is not a weapon that will be effective against the Russian Federation.
    We can be conditionally "Defeated" by a preemptive nuclear strike, receiving a salvo in response.