Frigate "Admiral Kasatonov" began preparations for state trials

The newest frigate "Admiral Kasatonov" of the 22350 project left the outfitting embankment and entered the Baltic Sea for the final stage of factory sea trials and preparation for the state ones. This was reported by the press service of PJSC SZ "Severnaya Verf".

According to the press service, during the final stage, the frigate’s crew will check all systems without exception, check the operation of mechanisms, equipment, hardware and systems, weapons and weapons, thereby preparing the ship for state trials, which will begin in December. Based on the test results, it will be decided to introduce the frigate to the Russian Navy and further service as part of the Northern fleet.

We go to sea for a sufficiently long time to prepare the ship for further service. I am sure that with the help of shipbuilders of the Northern Shipyard we will adequately fulfill all the numerous test tasks. The factory built a modern ship of the 21 century, and it has already been christened the "Master of the Seas." It is very honorable to serve on the latest ship, where many advanced technologies are applied

- said the captain of the ship, Captain I Rank Ivan Rogatin.

Earlier it was reported that the corvette of the 20385 “Thundering” project, built by the Northern Shipyard, came to the final stage of sea trials and preparation for the state. Both ships should enter the fleet before the end of the year. The corvette will go to the Pacific Fleet, and the frigate to the Northern Fleet.

The frigate “Admiral Kasatonov” is the second ship of the 22350 project and the first serial ship after the lead frigate “Admiral Gorshkov”. The displacement of 5 is thousands of tons with a length of 135 m and a width of 16 m. The frigate is able to go 4500 miles, thus developing speed to 29 nodes. The autonomy of swimming is 30 days. Crew - from 170 people.

Main power plant: gas turbine engine with a total capacity of 65 thousand liters. pp., diesel generators with a total capacity of 4 thousand kW.

The frigate is armed with: the 130-mm A-192 artillery mount, the Poliment-Redut anti-aircraft missile system; launchers for 16 anti-ship missiles "Onyx" or "Caliber", anti-submarine complex "Package", anti-submarine helicopter Ka-27.

Comments

[Artemiy_2]

Unfortunately between Kasatonov and Golovko there will be a pause of about 3 years

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Artemiy_2

Unfortunately between Kasatonov and Golovko there will be a pause of about 3 years

it’s possible, but I’d like to dream that the series from Gorshkov to Isakov will go to the Black Sea Fleet .... Amelko and Chichagov to the Baltic Fleet .... and the next (I hope Gorshkov M) 6 pieces each to the Northern Fleet and Pacific Fleet ... + corvettes and MRK 22800 .... there will already be more or less normal surface equipment ....

[kenig1]

When are we going to build "Masters of the Oceans"?

[Piramidon]

Quote: kenig1

When are we going to build "Masters of the Oceans"?

Where are you going to boss? Have the Yankees adopted? First of all, you need to protect your borders.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Boats, corvettes and diesel-electric submarines protect their borders, and frigates, destroyers, cruisers, UDC and aircraft carriers are needed just to host the oceans.

[eagle owl]

Yeah, only one aircraft carrier will cost, like all the tanks in service with the Russian Federation ... And one will not manage to "manage". Then we will definitely be left without pants.

[Doctor]

Yeah, only one aircraft carrier will cost, like all the tanks in the arsenal of the Russian Federation are available ..

Here, roughly estimated.
https://zen.yandex.ru/media/wt1/skolko-stoit-avianosec-i-ego-obslujivanie-5c063f0921a59f041680d4d5

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Russia has 520 billion gold reserves, the budget surplus of 2019 of the year is 1,9 trillion rubles (30 billion dollars).

The cost of an aircraft carrier is 10 billion dollars;
Destroyer cost - 1 billion dollars;
The cost of the frigate is 0,5 billion dollars.

As you can see, Russia has money to build a fleet and we won’t be left without pants.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Piramidon

Where are you going to boss?

Yes, anywhere in the world .....

Quote: Piramidon

Have the Yankees adopted?

Peter 1

Quote: Piramidon

First of all, you need to protect your borders.

FSB fleet guards borders

[Piramidon]

Quote: Tiksi-3

FSB fleet guards borders

And from the attack of the fleet of adversaries, too?

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Piramidon

And from the attack of the fleet of adversaries, too?

there is only one defense against attack - the Strategic Missile Forces, only they guarantee the inviolability of borders and peace))

[Arthur 85]

Good luck, but ... Are there any shipbuilders on the site? I don’t ask for armor anymore, but explain what prevents to make it longer on 20 m and not 16 but 46 missiles? And then 96? Or maybe 146 ...

[Antokha]

To you on the site "made by us" to the North.

[lucul]

I no longer ask for armor, but explain what prevents it from being made 20 meters longer and not 16 but 46 missiles? Or even 96? Or maybe 146 ...

Logic from the category - and let Lada Kalina be extended by 1 meter - and we can make a minibus out of it.

[Arthur 85]

Well, the Volgovskiy engine dragged the Gazelle, and nothing. And have you seen a wedding limousine? And nothing rides.

[lucul]

Well, the Volgovskiy engine dragged the Gazelle, and nothing. And have you seen a wedding limousine? And nothing rides.

Fiat motor 1.1 is able to carry passengers in the same way as the Volgov motor? )))

[Arthur 85]

Honestly, I didn’t understand what Fiat had to do with it. Maybe you are talking about the VAZ 2101? Well, you can twist 2 engines, that's okay. Electric transmission, so, put it like a diesel locomotive ... Do we have to check, or go?

[lucul]

Honestly, I didn’t understand what Fiat had to do with it.

The base for all VAZ engines was the 1.1 liter engine from Fiat.

[WILL]

Why are you attached to a forum member? He simply “naively” asked a question ... Why in 27 years, Russia has not built more than one rank 1 Battle Ship? It interests me too.

[Voyager]

Money money money

[lis-ik]

Quote: Voyager

Money money money

They recently announced that they don’t know what to do with the jars. And the trouble is direct, now you can’t do it, you need to spin a few more years under the authorities.

[Grits]

Quote: Voyager

Money money money

No money, no money, no money

[K-612-O]

Built and not one, all APRK and MAPL. By the way, next year 4 submarines and 2 diesel-electric submarines will be handed over to the fleet immediately

[lucul]

Why in 27 years, Russia has not built more than one battle ship of the 1st rank? It interests me too.

Under Yeltsin, we simply had no probable opponents)))
Only in 2014, Russia decided on a likely enemy. But to build a ship of rank 1 you need a modern project and at least engines for it - all this is only being developed ....

[Sky strike fighter]

Only in 2014, Russia decided on a likely enemy.

Here. It is a pity that we do not have a systematic approach. Everything is somehow situational. It happened on 08.08.08. just after that, they took up the army, in 2014 we thought about how to build surface ships ourselves, in 2015 Syria finally began to modernize aircraft and weapons, in 2019 the US exited the INF Treaty, and we just started thinking about the answer. We need to be more serious.

[Artemiy_2]

why in 27 years Russia hasn’t built more than one rank 1 Battle Ship?

Peter the Great and Admiral Chabanenko

[WILL]

Peter the Great - laid down in 1986, launched in 1989, entered the Navy in 1998 ...
Admiral Chabanenko, laid in 1989, launched in 1992, entered the Navy in 1999 ...
Are you sure that they were built by modern Russia ???

[Serg65]

Quote: ANIMAL

It interests me too.

Well, marine, I’ll try to explain ...
After we decided that democracy and freedom are much better than the unfulfilled hopes of Communism, we have to pull away and share everything from our own apartments to the territory of our residence. Then we were surprised to find that the Communist partocrats took their hands on their hands, their sons and those who joined them, they began to pull away everything as an adult, including the fleet. Kolya Baskov, for example, became a real blond and the first voice of Russia thanks to denyuzhkami with which his daddy got hold of including the sale of ships of the Russian Navy.
After the collapse, it suddenly turned out that most of the factories associated with the construction of warships are located in the former and now sovereign republics ... and the lion's share of these factories through the fault of the Dnepropetrovsk mafia led by Comrade Brezhnev ended up in Ukraine. Therefore, when they were planning to restore the fleet in the zero, they were surprised to see that there was nothing to restore! They made a decision ... while the production of products related to shipbuilding is being restored, we will start building quickly, purchasing the missing from the former fraternal republics. It started like a good thing, but the guys climbed in from overseas and everything stalled. Now everything seems to be getting better and the process is gaining momentum!
Here is such a short course in the history of the country and shipbuilding in particular

[WILL]

Just thank you, even though I knew it myself, Regards!

[Grits]

Quote: Serg65

Here is such a short course in the history of the country and shipbuilding in particular

The course is really short and understandable. Offer in history books.

[Galleon]

Andrey, how long will a single tank live on a level field? Enough of 40 rounds of ammunition? It depends on the answer to 2 questions: will he find 40 targets for 40 shells (well, or 20 targets) and will he have enough time to fire his entire ammunition.
This is a picture of our ships. Most often there is no one to cover from the air, aviation is now considered to be units. Confirmation of this, for example, is the news of another 2 new helicopters or aircraft delivered to the armed forces.
The over-the-horizon system for the ship's missiles is much more developed by the foe than ours, and finding 8 targets for 16 missiles at the same time (and not being discovered by yourself) is a case from the realm of fantasy or incredible military luck. A naval battle with our ships is not envisaged by the enemy - aviation is working to destroy the ships, the number of which the enemy has in comparison with ours is simply enormous. According to the science of tactics of using the forces and means of the fleet, even the concept of "battle between a ship and enemy aircraft" is absent, but there is "repelling an enemy air strike", which is more consistent with reality. A modern ship is designed for about 15-20 minutes of combat. At this time, he must repel air strikes, reach the range of using missile weapons against detected surface targets (which have an order to certainly evade combat contact with our ships) and use his ammunition.
Now think. And you will agree that 16 missiles are for the eyes.

[Arthur 85]

Not certainly in that way. I saw how tanks are used in the form of quasi-howitzers, rolling them up a hillock. In the course of a war, weapons are often used not as intended. I spoke about repelling an aviation strike. It's scary to say, but our entire fleet is completely unsuitable for repelling even two attacks by enemy carrier-based aircraft. And to avoid this (since we do not have aircraft carriers), you can hang TPK for anti-aircraft missiles wherever possible. Is there room on the mast? Excellent! Ten Arrows to the mast! And 16 UVP is not serious.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

In our concept, the destruction of aircraft carriers is assigned to multi-purpose nuclear submarines, and not to kamikaze ships, which, in your opinion, should break through the distance of open fire from anti-ship missiles through the clouds of missiles from NATO aircraft.

"Calibers" on our ships are needed to a greater extent for work on the ground in the depths of enemy defenses, in order to disable airfields from the coast, aircraft on them, bridges, railway junctions, radar stations, power plants and the like, and yes for this, the more missiles on our ships the better.

[Galleon]

Sound thought. I really reason within my competence and destroyer pr.956. Then answer this question: 16 KR in the troops - is it a division, a battery, a regiment? Who will command them, Colonel? 40 KR - the scale of which part? On the ship, this is commanded by a lieutenant - a lieutenant commander, a battery commander. And in the days of the USSR, the difference was sharp, and now it will become completely hypertrophied? Perhaps they do not want to bring the situation to the point of absurdity? Perhaps why not.

[Arthur 85]

Yes, this is certainly true, but will they be able to work on the ground, under the rule of NATO aviation? I’m rather talking about luring their carrier-based aircraft into air defense ships, and grinding them in the oncoming battle, probably nothing else will come of it. If you fantasize - the maximum automation of all these 350 missiles from the S-300/400, and the crew in a detachable, floating armored tank. Something like this.

[Arthur 85]

That is, the armored carcass will then sink too.

[Galleon]

Robots who don’t like my alignment, don’t go to serve in the fleet. There for you - scary. Sit in your computer troops and wait for the next rank.

[Serg65]

Quote: Arthur 85

what prevents to do

This is still a frigate, but you want to make a destroyer out of it! I suspect they will try to realize your desire in three years.

[vladcub]

Maybe 346? Indeed, we understand here how: like a ram in geometry. Maybe I'm wrong, but the site is in short supply: sailors and pilots.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Arthur 85

Or maybe 146 ...

Or maybe 100/500. Who is bigger?

[alexmach]

I no longer ask for armor, but explain what prevents it from being made 20 meters longer and not 16 but 46 missiles?

Strength parameters of the body and power of the drivers?
It seemed like an incomprehensible rumor that on the ships of the new bookmark (starting from the fifth or something) there will be +8 cells of the UKKS.
Super-Gorshkov is promised twice as many cells, but it is not yet clear in comparison with whom. All optimists had already read 48 of them to him, based on the rumor above, but maybe 32 is discussed there. So everything is done, only not as fast as we would like.
And yes, a single ship will not be able to withstand 7 NATO AUGs at one point. also

[Arthur 85]

Yes, take the famous barge with kavunami, screw the Triumph launchers to the upper deck, and let the frigate with the radar go in tow from behind, and cut the cable off before the battle. Well, something like this.

[alexmach]

and before the battle, the cable cuts off.

A very strange idea. It is not clear why we need a barge with weapons to which a cable will be chopped off before the battle. Weapons, because it’s kind of necessary to use it in battle, no?

[Arthur 85]

Well, if the frigate does not fit 100 cells for calibers for reasons I don’t understand, and if they are still disposable, then we put them on a separate carrier, which we then drop. And they will be guided after a volley by their frigate frigate.

[rocket757]

All the same, what happened is a pre-destroyer or an overgrower destroyer?
What is he for? To defend or "strike"?
The Soviet classification is more familiar and understandable.

[NEXUS]

Quote: rocket757

All the same, what happened is a pre-destroyer or an overgrower destroyer?

This is a FRIGATE. This class of ships was returned relatively recently. The 22350М project, which will be more at 1100 tons, will become a full-fledged destroyer.

Quote: rocket757

What is he for? To defend or "strike"?

The frigate is a universal platform of the far sea zone and from assigned tasks, it is capable of both protecting and beating and escorting.

[rocket757]

I don’t like the definition of universal .... as a rule, it’s a nonsense here and there! Okay, it’s a boom to assume that the giraffe is big and he does what he can!
I had to visit / work for "ANDROPOV" which was later renamed .... this is the SIZE!

[Voyager]

Such a time. A time of versatility, multitasking and unification. It appears everywhere: in aviation, in the Navy, in the ground forces, air defense and missile defense ...

[Tiksi-3]

EM (destroyer) - he is a destroyer
and you write -

Quote: rocket757

is it a pre-destroyer or an overgrower destroyer?

[rocket757]

There were also "big destroyers" among the Germans, I think! Either the destroyer was overgrown, or an undercruiser .... although there were light cruisers!
However, it wasn’t my topic, I saw it, I had to be, but I didn’t study it thoroughly ... it's just interesting!
Destroyers are destroyers, that’s understandable, but then who is the frigate? It doesn’t attract the destroyer, it doesn’t look like a destroyer of a classical type! However, destroyers are now simply not there, evolved into someone

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Quote: Arthur 85

Good luck, but ... Are there any shipbuilders on the site? I don’t ask for armor anymore, but explain what prevents to make it longer on 20 m and not 16 but 46 missiles? And then 96? Or maybe 146 ...

Yes, from where are the shipbuilders here.

[Arthur 85]

It's a pity, a pity ... Well, as I understand it, "long-range" missiles for Polyment are loaded into the same UVP? And in the event, God forbid, war, all cells will be clogged with anti-aircraft missiles, because American aircraft will dominate the sea ... And the strike capabilities of such a ship will be zero.

[lucul]

It's a pity, a pity ... Well, as I understand it, "long-range" missiles for Polyment are loaded into the same UVP? And in the event, God forbid, war, all cells will be clogged with anti-aircraft missiles, because American aircraft will dominate the sea ... And the strike capabilities of such a ship will be zero.

Can you expand your thought, and not what you wrote from the training manual? )))

[Arthur 85]

Yes Easy. I didn’t write anything from any training manual, I’m just one of the "guardians" ... So. Hypothetical war. Let the USA have 7 AUGs on the move, let them have 36 Hornets, 2 Harpoons under the wing. I take an incredible minimum - 500 anti-ship missiles. Is there even a theoretical chance of fighting off 10 frigates with 16 airborne cells on board each? But I'm not a sailor, so I ask: why not 100 cells? Is this objective, or is this ship just to display a flag?

[lucul]

Yes Easy.

Ahahaahah)))
Range of action and detection at the Hornets? )))

[Arthur 85]

The range of the Khornets is 600 km + 150 km of Harpoon proper (maybe, I am mistaken, again, not a sailor). And the discovery is to Hokai.

[lucul]

The range of the Khornets is 600 km + 150 km of Harpoon proper (maybe, I am mistaken, again, not a sailor). And the discovery is to Hokai.

Do you know the range of the Caliber missiles?
With 16 missiles, 10 are guaranteed to hit an aircraft carrier, and not a single airplane will take off anymore))

[Arthur 85]

Sorry, but you are contradicting yourself. Discovery, here is the keyword. Let’s mace the AUG. She has a range of half a planet and an RGM. It’s already getting worse! ... And in Caliber, in the performance of anti-ship missiles - a range of about 300 km.

[lucul]

And the Caliber in the execution of RCC - a range of about 300 km.

"Of course, it's just a coincidence that its range is the maximum allowed for cruise missiles under the missile technology control regime. The missile technology control regime is a non-proliferation agreement designed to limit the range of missiles capable of carrying a nuclear charge, and Russia is a party to it."
In wartime - no one will limit the range)))
It's like the Washington agreement on battleships - it seems to be there, but it doesn't seem to be)))

[Arthur 85]

No. INF Treaty - only to land, once, 500 km, two. Aug goes 30 knots, it's about 50 km / h, three. The ESR of ships is different depending on the angle, the ocean is full of civilian vessels, these are four and five.

[lucul]

ESR of ships varies depending on the angle, the ocean is full of civilian ships

Recently at VO there was infa that the new equipment allows the MiG -31 to issue full target designation)))

[Arthur 85]

MIG 31 is a deck aircraft? Understand me correctly, I in no way want to drop the glory of our Armed Forces, but to turn a blind eye to obvious problems is a bad way to increase this glory.

[lucul]

MIG 31 is a deck aircraft?

You understand the simple truth - if there is equipment - then it can already be put on ANY military aircraft.

[Arthur 85]

No you can not. The equipment has dimensions, weight, energy supply requirements, requirements for maximum accelerations in three planes, humidity, atmospheric pressure, temperature, temperature difference, etc.

[Nastia makarova]

caliber with a nuclear charge is enough for aug

[Arthur 85]

Again. Detection. AUG is a "white spot on the map" with a diameter of one and a half thousand kilometers, on the border of which your scouts disappear. Where will you shoot with this caliber, not to mention the four-fold echeloned air defense AUG.

[lucul]

Again. Detection. AUG is a "white spot on the map" with a diameter of one and a half thousand kilometers, on the border of which your scouts disappear.

How many planes can an avik hold around the clock in detection mode? ))) Where is the guarantee that Avik will see our ship earlier?

Where you will shoot with this caliber, not to mention the fourfold echelon air defense of the AUG.

I repeat - now Russia has the equipment to issue target designation to airplanes. Have you seen the radius of action of the SU-30 with hanging tanks? Avik simply will not be able to approach the coast of Russia at a distance of impact.

[Arthur 85]

One Hawkeye - out of four available. Okay, lie, two. And the duty link 2-4 Hornet in the load "fighter".

[lucul]

One Hawkeye - out of four available. Okay, lie, two. And the duty link 2-4 Hornet in the load "fighter".

Vooot.
And now they are discussing topics with drones - new ones have grown. versions allow you to stay in the air 24 hours a day. We hang on them a detection system + guidance and voila - the frigate's capabilities are greatly increased.

[Arthur 85]

Have you seen Hawkeye? It's a hefty bucket with two screw motors, a huge plate on top, and a bunch of operators inside. And the UAV is not good if only because it is one more transmission link - a target for electronic warfare. And the fact that he "informs" you - it is possible that disinformation.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: lucul

Do you know the range of the Caliber missiles?

Which rocket?
Because the Kyrgyz Republic does not know how to work on moving targets, and the range of anti-ship missiles is much less than that of the Kyrgyz Republic.
By the way, even during the Cold War, one of the typical tasks of the AUG was to hit an enemy ship group at a distance of 600 miles. RCC launch - from small and criminally small ones, target designation - external, from the DRLO / RR-RTR ligament.

Quote: lucul

With 16 missiles, 10 are guaranteed to hit an aircraft carrier, and not a single airplane will take off anymore))

Only if the pilots of the airborne wing-wing will glut oneself on the forecourt of the shaver and cannot take off.

[lucul]

For the Kyrgyz Republic is not able to work on moving goals

And what is the difficulty? What prevents to fasten the guidance system from above (in parallel) like in helicopters - shot, forgot?

[Alexey RA]

Quote: lucul

For the Kyrgyz Republic is not able to work on moving goals

And what is the difficulty? What prevents to fasten the guidance system from above (in parallel) like in helicopters - shot, forgot?

Nothing interferes. And this has already been done - it turned out 3M-54 with a range of five times less.

[lucul]

it turned out 3M-54 with a range of five times less.

Repeatedly: “Of course, it’s just a coincidence that its range is the maximum allowed for cruise missiles under the missile technology control regime. The missile technology control regime is a non-proliferation agreement designed to limit the range of missiles capable of carrying a nuclear charge, and Russia is a party to it. . "

The flight range of the rocket is artificially limited.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: lucul

The flight range of the rocket is artificially limited.

And we again rest against over-horizon target designation and 300-400 km depth of AUG air defense.

[lucul]

And we again rest against over-horizon target designation and 300-400 km depth of AUG air defense.

Just like the Americans.
Again, equipment has appeared in Russia that can issue target designation on the MiG-31.
If it is, then there is the opportunity to put it on drones.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: lucul

Just like the Americans.

They have a solution - "Hawkeye". We do not have a marine AWACS providing detection and target designation in 24/7 mode.

[lucul]

They have a solution - "Hawkeye"

It has a detection range of 400km.
New Russian anti-aircraft missiles are able to keep Hokai out of target detection range.

[Doctor]

The USA has 7 AUGs on the move, it’s 36 Hornets each, under the wing there are 2 Harpoons each. I take an incredible minimum - 500 RCC. Is there at least a theoretical chance to fight off 10 frigates with 16 UVP cells on board each? But I'm not a sailor, so I ask: why not 100 cells?

No chance. Yes, this is necessary. AUG will work from the shore of RSD-10 Pioneer (SS-20) of a new model and PAK YES.
And now you need:
8 SSBNs "Borey" - 4 each for the Northern Fleet and the Pacific Fleet. 2 constantly on the base station in the patrol areas in the Barents and Okhotsk Seas, 1 each in readiness for exit, 1 each for maintenance and repair.
On the surface they are covered by PLO frigates, 6 in the sea, 6 on the shore at different degrees of readiness in accordance with the database schedule - only 12 for each fleet - 4 brigades for everything.
In the water column, they are covered by the submarine pr.885 "Ash", 6 at sea, 6 on the shore in varying degrees of readiness in accordance with the DB schedule - only 12 for each fleet - 4 brigades for everything.
A modernized IL - 38 is constantly hanging in the air, a change every 4 hours - 6 for a day, another 6 on the shore at different levels of readiness in accordance with the database schedule - only 12 for each fleet - 2 squadrons for everything.
At the bottom, a bottom-based missile "Skif" is ambushed.

[Arthur 85]

As I already wrote somewhere, the Boreas must barrage in the Caspian Sea. There they do not need to cover.

[Alexey RA]

And over all this ominously looms Zenit Arena The Death Star.

[Doctor]

And over all this ominously looms the Zenith Arena Death Star.

Nah, simpler.

[ser56]

Quote: Arthur 85

all cells will be clogged with anti-aircraft missiles,

anti-aircraft missiles in special cells ...

[Arthur 85]

A. Finally a clear answer, thanks. But, there should be a distant and near air defense?

[ser56]

Quote: Arthur 85

A. Finally a clear answer, thanks. But, there should be a distant and near air defense?

Can't you go to Wiki?
"later there was information about the installation of the Redut air defense missile system on the ship, located in the bow of the hull in front of the UKSK ZS14U1 and consisting of four eight-cell modules. The total ammunition contains 32 medium and long-range missiles 9M96 (with a firing range of up to 120 km for the 9M96E2 missile) [26 ] or 128 short-range missiles 9M100 (four missiles in one UVP cell, approximate firing range - 10-15 km) [27] It is possible to simultaneously place different missiles in the UVP to create echeloned defense.

The ship’s artillery armament is represented by 130 mm A-192M artillery mount (firing range up to 22 km, rate of fire - 30 rounds per minute) [15]. The artillery system has a wide range of angles of fire (170/80 °); the range of ammunition allows it to hit coastal, sea and air targets, and the new artillery fire control system has multichannel for fired targets.

Near the helicopter hangar, two combat modules of the ZAKK Broadsword were installed onboard.

The frigate’s anti-submarine armament is represented by four quadruple launchers located in the middle part of the superstructure (behind the lapels) of the anti-submarine defense and anti-torpedo protection Package-NK complex.

The aircraft armament includes one Ka-27 helicopter, located in a single deck hangar. "

[Arthur 85]

Okay, I was pretending to be a little boot ... All the air defense of this ship implies the reflection of missiles, but not their carriers, which you kindly wrote above. Hornets themselves will have to be shot down from the same UVP. And so I severely ask: why only 16?

[ser56]

Quote: Arthur 85

And so I severely ask: why only 16?

1) and this is for those who wrote TK ...
2) I can assume that this number comes from the Atlanteans ...

[Arthur 85]

Hm (thought a lot), knowing the army thought, I do not exclude it. But Granite is not a Caliber. 16 calibers have no chance of breaking through to the AUG, (in my humble opinion) Therefore, it is rather an anti-submarine ship in the near zone, in the cells of the rocket torpedo, and the coastal aviation will provide air defense. And he would not even dream of any "distant zone", perhaps, as part of the guard of Kuznetsov or Peter the Great.

[ser56]

Quote: Arthur 85

16 Gauges have no chance to break through to the AUG, (in my humble opinion)

1) and zircons?
2) I am only a starter on VUS 799500 and have no opinion on this ...

Quote: Arthur 85

they don't even dream of any "far zone"

you you in the General Staff in the Russian Federation-would have driven admirals .......

[lucul]

I’m only a starter on VUS 799500 and I don’t have an opinion on this ...

)))))

[Arthur 85]

Well, he wrote - in a humble opinion. And if in addition to jokes, then I did not receive an answer to my original question, alas. But although not an admiral, I rarely make mistakes ... I would like to make a mistake this time.

[ser56]

Quote: Arthur 85

but rarely mistaken ...

happy for you...

Quote: Arthur 85

I didn’t receive an answer to my original question, alas

I think that the answers to your questions in the documents with a signature stamp ...

[lucul]

16 Gauges have no chance to break through to the AUG, (in my humble opinion)

Argentine missiles also did not have a chance to break through to the English ship)))

[Alexey RA]

Quote: lucul

Argentine missiles also did not have a chance to break through to the English ship)))

If you turn off the radar and do not interfere, then this can not happen. And if you do not conduct tests of air defense systems to intercept targets that mimic real modern aircraft and anti-ship missiles - too.
By the way, having found itself in a similar situation, "Glasgow" was able to prevent an anti-ship missile from hitting - even despite the failure of the ship's air defense system to capture the target.

Moreover, the Sheffield was outside the air defense zone of the compound and represented the most advantageous target - a single RLD ship. Even in the last war, based on the results of the battles near Iwo Jima and Okinawa, it was clear that such ships are becoming the first targets - and it is extremely difficult for them to survive.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

UKSK ships include not only Caliber, but also supersonic Onyx and hypersonic Zircons.

The anti-ship Caliber on the final trajectory, unlike the one used by land, switches to supersonic speed.

So, our frigates, pr. 22350, are a serious threat to any enemy.

But to work on land to a great depth in the rear of the enemy 16 missiles is not enough, of course, for comparison, on German frigates, 32 PU Mk cells. 41.

[Arthur 85]

Yes, I also heard about it, but ... Onyxes and Zircons are apparently not in service. Hokai will track them for 300 kilometers. Deck ships on a collision course will "tear" them at least by how many swings, even just from cannons, because There will never be more "brains" in the rocket than the pilot.

[lucul]

Hokai locates them for 300 kilometers.

At NATO, all target designation is tied to AWACS aircraft, and they have a maximum detection range of -400km. But our new anti-aircraft missiles completely level the work of AWACS, and without them, the Americans are blind.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Onyxes have long been even used in Syria.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

I don’t think that Hokai will find a cruise missile flying above the surface of the water at an altitude of 20 meters beyond 300 km, and in order for airborne aircraft to bring down such a missile, airplanes should already be in the air, which most likely will not, so that a massive attack from cruise missiles to US ships will be repelled very difficult.

The anti-ship gauge flies at an altitude of 20 meters at a speed of 1000 km / h (0,8 max), when approaching a target it decreases by a height of 10 meters above water and accelerates to 3500 km / h (2,9 max).

What US air defense system will be able to intercept such a missile? Yes, no.

[Arthur 85]

Well, God forbid, God forbid ... But I’m mostly talking about decks ... Then, if the launch ship is 300-350 km long, then it will most likely be drowned, and if the salvo is about 600-700 kilometers (about TsU temporarily believe that it is), then this is an hour before the flight - they will have time to take off. Yes, and their air defense systems, I think, are induced from Hokai - I would do so.

[K-612-O]

No one will play naval battles with the AUG, the war with NATO or the United States will not be using conventional weapons by definition. Yes, and the same aircraft carriers are very scattered at different points. So the fate of big troughs is primarily a dagger with a nuclear warhead or X22M with it

[ser56]

Quote: K-612-O

will not be using conventional weapons by definition

who knows... after the exchange of blows - the world will not be concluded right away - something will swarm ....

[Arthur 85]

And you do not admit the thought that when the Third and the Last dies, the admiral of the World AUG accidentally surviving in the Ocean will become the emperor of the whole earth And we, having formed a coalition with the surviving Americans, on the last surviving frigate will go to drown him) Like Frodo and Gandalf.

[K-612-O]

Yes, you’ll at least tighten tactics and operational art, all of these formations will be one of the original goals of coastal aviation and submarines (there are torpedoes with nuclear warheads, by the way), and with a full-scale retaliation strike, the surviving crews of surface ships excuse me for a long time, physically.

[Arthur 85]

They will rob cows ... Well, what are you really. We have 2500, perhaps, warheads, and the Americans have the same. It's like the flu for the planet. Heavy, but nothing more. That is, if they had zhakhal before START, then perhaps yes, only the penguins in Antarctica would have survived (what did the Americans call their SSGNs there? "42 on guard of freedom?" now, I think, not even all the strategic objects will be enough.

[ser56]

Quote: Arthur 85

not even all strategic facilities are enough.

why all? just knock out energy and everything ... hunger, disease and krants ...

[lucul]

then the admiral who accidentally survives in the World Ocean AUG will become the emperor of all the land

And where will he fuel the airplanes from? )))

[ser56]

Quote: Arthur 85

then the admiral who accidentally survives in the World Ocean AUG will become the emperor of all the land

until his grub runs out ...

Quote: Arthur 85

And we, having formed a coalition with the surviving Americans,

1) such as the British planned with the Germans in 1945 in Operation Unthinkable?
2) who told you that someone will join the coalition with you?

[Arthur 85]

Well, some other means of communication will work, tube ... The instinct of self-preservation will force. Well, if no one wants to, one will have to sail on a foam raft

[Every]

We must also send him to the Caribbean, let the striped boiling water come.
At the same time, the readiness of the ship for long trips will be checked.

[Igor Borisov_2]

Quote: Arthur 85

Good luck, but ... Are there any shipbuilders on the site? I don’t ask for armor anymore, but explain what prevents to make it longer on 20 m and not 16 but 46 missiles? And then 96? Or maybe 146 ...

If you make it 20 meters longer, then you will need to redo all the project documentation. Example: I talked with the chief designer of the Yuri Ivanov SSV, project 864 (Polish) was taken as a basis, but with minor modifications - the length is 10 meters longer, one mast instead of two, etc. To my question why the new ship's maximum speed remained the same as that of the 864 project (16,4 knots), he replied that to increase the speed, another power plant would be required, which would entail an increase in displacement by 500-600 tons, and the RF MTF set a rigid framework displacement and categorically refused to change them. Something like this....

[Arthur 85]

Um. But this is somehow strange. Well, if you replace the gun with 76 mm on the pedestal with a piston bolt and b / c on the deck, a la 1905? All the same, it is needed only to stop civilian vessels from firing at the course, can you add a few more cells?

[yehat]

I know the hockey player Kasatonov, I know the basketball player, I know the Moscow economist
and the admiral - I do not know co je to?

[yehat]

Quote: rocket757

All the same, what happened is a pre-destroyer or an overgrower destroyer?

turned out destroyer

[yehat]

Quote: Galleon

who will command them, Colonel? 40 KR - the scale of which part?

the army is changing. Previously, an officer commanded a platoon that shot 1-2 volleys per minute.
then they started shooting at 20 times per minute, then they started shooting in bursts
the scope of missile control is also changing.

[petrol cutter]

"And from the attack of the enemy fleet too?"
From attacks of this nature, everything has long been invented and organized (and from the shore). I think the probable opponent is also up to date that popping here will have many sorrows.
Thus, I would not bother much on this topic.