Military Review

In Kiev, called the main obstacle to concluding a gas agreement with the Russian Federation

83
The Ukrainian company Naftogaz is the only obstacle to concluding a new gas contract with Russia. This was stated by the leader of the Ukrainian opposition Viktor Medvedchuk on his page on the social network Facebook


In Kiev, called the main obstacle to concluding a gas agreement with the Russian Federation


The management of Naftogaz, namely, the head of the company Andrey Kobolev and executive director Yuriy Vitrenko, are the most important obstacles to concluding a new gas agreement between Ukraine and Russia. As stated by Medvedchuk, they must leave their posts.

A serious problem for President Zelensky and his team is representatives of the former government, Kobolev and Vitrenko, who put the wheels in the wheel, eliminating the possibility of agreeing on gas supplies. The faster they get rid of them, the more chances there are to agree on new conditions

- he stressed.

This is not the first time that the Ukrainian opposition has blamed Naftogaz for ignoring the interests of Ukrainian citizens and all sorts of obstacles in concluding a new gas contract. According to the opposition, the company's management, first of all, cares about its pocket, and not about Ukraine.

Recall that the current agreement on pumping gas through the Ukrainian gas transmission system expires on December 31 2019, and a new contract has not yet been concluded. The European Commission is proposing trilateral talks in mid-September, having already sent invitations to all parties. Russia does not refuse negotiations and offers Kiev to conclude a one-year contract with further prospects for extension, which of course does not suit Ukraine. "Naftogaz" puts forward its "fantastic" conditions - to pump through Ukraine 100 billion cubic meters of gas annually, to which Russia "twists a finger at the temple."

On the other hand, at the moment Russia has no one to negotiate with, since in Ukraine there is no government and those people who will be responsible for signing the contract. And it is useless to negotiate with Naftogaz - from January 1 of 2020 of the year the company ceases to exist.
Photos used:
https://www.obozrevatel.com/
83 comments
Ad

Subscribe to our Telegram channel, regularly additional information about the special operation in Ukraine, a large amount of information, videos, something that does not fall on the site: https://t.me/topwar_official

Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. Andrey Chistyakov
    Andrey Chistyakov 23 August 2019 11: 32
    +7
    Come on ... the West will "help" you ....
    1. Vladimir16
      Vladimir16 23 August 2019 11: 41
      +3
      Gas sucks! Normal Ukrainians do not need neither gas nor Russian!
      Frozen ears spite Muscovites! laughing
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 23 August 2019 11: 52
        -4
        "Naftogaz" puts forward its "fantastic" conditions - to pump through Ukraine 100 billion cubic meters of gas annually, to which Russia "twists its finger at its temple."

        So we don’t have enough gas smile
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 23 August 2019 13: 05
          +16
          from January 1, 2020 the company ceases to exist

          Oops!
          So that's where this sentence comes from "you now pay us winter gas, on the cheap, and we will give you back in winter"
          laughing
          1. g1washntwn
            g1washntwn 23 August 2019 13: 24
            +8
            Exactly. In January there will be "look for the wind in the field".
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 23 August 2019 13: 33
            +5
            Quote: Shurik70
            from January 1 to 2020, the company ceases to be

            Well, the country! There is no government, there is no oil and gas company, there is no one to conclude an agreement with, but let’s give oil and gas - Question, and to whom to give? Once given, and where is now 3 billion?
    2. Civil
      Civil 23 August 2019 11: 50
      -23
      In Kiev, called the main obstacle to concluding a gas agreement with the Russian Federation

      On both sides, strictly one obstacle is greed.
      1. Andrey Chistyakov
        Andrey Chistyakov 23 August 2019 11: 53
        +7
        Quote: Civil
        In Kiev, called the main obstacle to concluding a gas agreement with the Russian Federation

        On both sides, strictly one obstacle is greed.

        Do not from a sick head to a healthy one. What year does Russia agree with the Saudis. And everything turns out.
        Nobody can come to an agreement with the "neighbors". Well, except for the United States, of course.
        1. Civil
          Civil 23 August 2019 12: 16
          -30
          Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
          Do not from a sick head to a healthy one. What year does Russia agree with the Saudis. And everything turns out.

          Do you personally feel sorry for gas for the inhabitants of Ukraine, where far from all support the Natsik? If it’s a pity, then what is your benefit? Reduce gas tariff? To connect?
          1. Nymp
            Nymp 23 August 2019 12: 41
            +23
            * "Do you personally feel sorry for the gas for the inhabitants of Ukraine, where not all support the Natsiks?" *. -HOW DO THEY DO NOT SUPPORT THE NAZIKS? HERE DONBASS DOES NOT SUPPORT! And the rest are waiting for it to resolve itself! And another question, are there many gasified settlements in Russia? It's a pity !!! Let them pay once they decided to endure the Natsiks, and watch in cold blood as the Donbass is being shot. And even tanks in factories for the Nazis to do. And to supply young people to the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. BY SHARE
            1. Andrey Chistyakov
              Andrey Chistyakov 23 August 2019 12: 48
              +9
              Quote: Nymp
              * "Do you personally feel sorry for the gas for the inhabitants of Ukraine, where not all support the Natsiks?" *. -HOW DO THEY DO NOT SUPPORT THE NAZIKS? HERE DONBASS DOES NOT SUPPORT! And the rest are waiting for it to resolve itself! And another question, are there many gasified settlements in Russia? It's a pity !!! Let them pay once they decided to endure the Natsiks, and watch in cold blood as the Donbass is being shot. And even tanks in factories for the Nazis to do. And to supply young people to the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. BY SHARE

              Thanks for the answer. There’s nothing to add !!!!!
              1. Evil echo
                Evil echo 23 August 2019 18: 19
                +4
                You can add only one thing, but "the Cossack is sent". I'm talking about a "citizen" if that. laughing
                The throw is counted!
            2. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 23 August 2019 17: 34
              +7
              Quote: Nymp
              Do you personally feel sorry for gas for the inhabitants of Ukraine, where far from all support the Natsik?

              You don't need to press on pity, but you can't warm everyone with your warmth, you need to learn how to work and make a living, and wagging with tongues is not work. All your life they helped you, and you are the same, help, give money, but what we get in return is "moskolyak for gilyak, glory to heroes." Look at your Ukrainian sites and you will see that all the comments are just teeming, punish, strangle, and the like, I have not seen words anywhere, we will build, let's live like neighbors. Friendship will no longer work, but at least we will live like a neighbor without threats and hatred. Excuse me, but I'm sick and tired of hearing this, although I don't live in Russia, but I'm Russian and can't stand it when my people are insulted and humiliated. Learn to live with your neighbors as people.
              1. Ascold1901
                Ascold1901 24 August 2019 00: 45
                +1
                "... help, give money ..." - this is now. And before it was-Ukraine feeds the USSR ...
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 24 August 2019 09: 36
                  0
                  Quote: Ascold1901
                  And before it was-Ukraine feeds the USSR ...

                  In the early 90s, they brought me their newspaper, where Eltsin and Kravchuk are standing, Eltsin asks "Lyonya, give me bacon, give me meat" and Kravchuk pulls out two cookies from behind Eltsin's back, "Here's toby bacon, toby myaso." But in fact, it turned out now in Ukraine there is no fat, not meat (there is trocha), but in Russia both meat and bacon can be fed to Ukraine (although it does feed, because the state workers are what they eat in Moscow).
          2. g1washntwn
            g1washntwn 23 August 2019 13: 28
            +10
            Quote: Civil
            You personally feel sorry

            Sorry for the bee in the ass. Nothing personal just business. And since politics and business are two boots of steam, you are kindly requested to step into a bright capitalistic future without whining.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 24 August 2019 09: 37
              0
              Quote: g1washntwn
              then please step into a bright capitalistic future without whining.

              With a proudly raised head and a wide stride.
          3. monah
            monah 23 August 2019 13: 57
            +1
            I agree not all! But judging by the Ukrainian sites and speeches of (new) politicians, 90 percent
          4. major147
            major147 23 August 2019 16: 11
            +7
            Quote: Civil
            Do you personally feel sorry for gas for the inhabitants of Ukraine, where far from all support the Natsik? If it’s a pity, then what is your benefit?

            As one "resident of Ukraine" wrote to a Russian: "We will take your money, spend it, and then spit in your face!"
            Comments needed?
          5. Piramidon
            Piramidon 23 August 2019 16: 12
            +4
            Quote: Civil
            Do you personally feel sorry for gas for the inhabitants of Ukraine, where far from all support the Natsik? If it’s a pity, then what is your benefit? Reduce gas tariff? To connect?

            If you are not sorry, send gas to / to Ukraine by parcels and baggage in cylinders. From what hangover should we feed all the freeloaders? They live in their own country. Who should defend their interests, the Russian or Ukrainian government? Moreover, now they have made it easier for Ukrainians to obtain Russian citizenship. Those who do not support the Natsiks can move to Russia. But they will wait for people like you to present everything on a silver platter, and they will spit in your back for that. However, according to the text, it is felt that you are one of those very independent "khataskrayniks" waiting for a freebie.
            1. Ascold1901
              Ascold1901 25 August 2019 12: 13
              0
              About gas. One Armenian joked: “Buy Armenian mineral (carbonated) water instead of Russian gas!” Evaporate the water, but the gas remains for you!
          6. ananias mudishev
            ananias mudishev 23 August 2019 17: 42
            +2
            If not everyone supports Natsik, go to the Maidan. Well, scary
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 23 August 2019 13: 34
        +4
        Quote: Civil
        On both sides, strictly one obstacle is greed.

        And from your side you can only hear - "Yes, take everything, I don't feel sorry for anything Russian", because I am a Jew (Ukrainian, American, Pole, Estonian ...)
    3. major147
      major147 23 August 2019 15: 49
      +2
      Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
      Come on ... the West will "help" you ....

      As usual, pat on the shoulder lol
    4. private person
      private person 23 August 2019 16: 33
      0
      Come on ... the West will "help" you.

      Well, help and force Russia to feed Ukrainians again. In other matters, and in our government they consider them brothers with all the consequences .......
  2. Pedrodepackes
    Pedrodepackes 23 August 2019 11: 32
    +8
    "Naftogaz" puts forward its "fantastic" conditions - to pump through Ukraine 100 billion cubic meters of gas annually
    Well, I really want money
    And it is useless to negotiate with Naftogaz - from January 1, 2020 the company will cease to exist.
    oh how! so everything is clear, get an advance payment and quietly dissolve)))
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 23 August 2019 11: 44
      +5
      Pedrodepacks (Alex) Today, 11: 32 NEW
      +1
      "Naftogaz" puts forward its "fantastic" conditions - to pump through Ukraine 100 billion cubic meters of gas annually
      Well, I really want money

      Appetites grow in horses, they think to reign for a year or so, and on the run! bully
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 23 August 2019 19: 01
        0
        Seryoga, salute!
        Quote: aszzz888
        Appetites grow in horses

        There are no longer appetites, it’s like a drug addict punches a havchik ... yes
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 23 August 2019 11: 55
      +7
      Quote: Pedrodepackes
      And it is useless to negotiate with Naftogaz - from January 1, 2020 the company will cease to exist.
      oh how! so everything is clear, get an advance payment and quietly dissolve)))

      Probably for the same reason, Naftogaz recently suggested that residents of the Skachidopota tribe buy gas for future use at the current price in order to warm them up in the winter. winked
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 23 August 2019 11: 32
    +3
    The management of Naftogaz, namely, the head of the company Andriy Kobolev and the executive director Yuriy Vitrenko, are the main obstacles to the conclusion of a new gas agreement between Ukraine and Russia.

    Oh, it's not even funny ... these will leave, others will come, just because the old ones have done a lot of different things, without canceling which they will not see transit gas! Who will dare to cancel many of the previous ones ??? I doubt it.
  4. mig29mks
    mig29mks 23 August 2019 11: 35
    +4
    No one to negotiate with !!! Why do we even have to agree? Why do we need this?
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 23 August 2019 11: 49
      +2
      While it is necessary. For a year. Then I don’t know. But conditions will not be dictated by Ukraine
    2. Fayter2017
      Fayter2017 23 August 2019 11: 53
      +1
      At least because sp-2 has not yet been built.
      1. Oyo Sarkazmi
        Oyo Sarkazmi 23 August 2019 16: 56
        -2
        Although it will be built - its capacity will not exceed 15 billion cubic meters per year - the Third Energy Package rules, Gazprom can only operate it by 50%. In order to load at 100, you need to TRANSFER SP-2 under the control of a European company, which wakes up to take 2 euros from 1000 cubic meters from Gazprom for pumping.
        1. abc_alex
          abc_alex 24 August 2019 09: 37
          +1
          Quote: Oo sarcasm
          The third energy package drives, Gazprom can only operate it at 50%. In order to load at 100, you need to TRANSFER SP-2 under the control of a European company, which wakes up to take 2 euros from 1000 cubic meters from Gazprom for pumping.

          Take where you have read such a thing, carefully shake it in your hands and use it as intended. Because the fact that you wrote nothing but nonsense.
          1. Oyo Sarkazmi
            Oyo Sarkazmi 25 August 2019 20: 45
            -1
            winked Add nonsense. OPAL, Germany's North-South Pipeline. Built by Gazprom with its own money. According to the Second Energy Package, more than 50% of the gas of one owner cannot be pumped through ANY gas pipeline of the EU. And OPAL starts from SP-1, and there are no competitors to be seen. Therefore, Gazprom at the northern end sells 50% of gas to firms consisting of a director, an accountant, and a computer, while at the southern end it buys from them. Moreover, the names of these directors and accountants somehow very strangely coincide with the names of officials of the Bundespublic.
            At the end of last year, the European Commission became generous and allowed 25% of the capacity (to the "legal" 50%) Gazprom to buy from the FRG GOVERNMENT. Colonial rent for the right to give warmth to Europe. bully
            So, the Third Energy Package has extended these rules to transit pipelines passing through the territorial waters of the EU countries. The Finns and Danes are rubbing their hands pretty much - they are getting it too.
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 25 August 2019 20: 57
              -1
              Quote: Oo sarcasm
              Finns and Danes rub their hands pretty much - they too

              Well, the Finns are still tuddy-syud. And what about the Danes?

              Quote: Oo sarcasm
              Add nonsense

              It turned yes
              1. Oyo Sarkazmi
                Oyo Sarkazmi 26 August 2019 12: 08
                -1
                If the pipeline passes through territorial waters, any country can file a lawsuit for violating the Third Energy Package. Although it does not perform any operations with the pipeline, no gas is taken.
                Slightly exceeded the supply of over 50% of the nominal capacity, and the Finns, Swedes, Poles, Danes and Germans can recover one billion in court. Not rubles. And everyone will be happy. Okromya budget of Russia.
            2. abc_alex
              abc_alex 27 August 2019 00: 10
              0
              Quote: Oo sarcasm
              So, the Third Energy Package has extended these rules to transit pipelines passing through the territorial waters of the EU countries.


              The same advice.
              1. Oyo Sarkazmi
                Oyo Sarkazmi 11 September 2019 21: 50
                -1
                Last news - Gazprom again shut the valve on OPAL winked
                https://www.interfax.ru/business/676099
                And this is only for the Second Energy Package.
                The third Energy package extends the mandatory provision of a transit pipe, 50%, to competitors. A pipe passes through the economic zone of at least one EU country - please comply. 3-EP also prohibits the producer and owner of the gas from owning the pipe.
                So the SP-2 will operate at half capacity. Amen.
                1. abc_alex
                  abc_alex 12 September 2019 00: 09
                  +1
                  Quote: Oo sarcasm
                  Last news - Gazprom again shut the valve on OPAL

                  Opal is entirely located in the EU and not in territorial waters. The fact that you are actively vanging here was talking about SP-1. And then suddenly it turned out that OPAL is 100% loaded with GP.
                  1. Oyo Sarkazmi
                    Oyo Sarkazmi 12 September 2019 16: 59
                    -1
                    OPAL is the property of Gazprom’s subsidiary, the miner. And only on the grounds that the gas and the pipeline are in the same hands is a limitation. Gazprom tried to oblige TRANSFER TO OPAL in the management of an EU company. So far without trial. Make you pay for transit through your own pipeline built with your own money. Nobody wants to buy OPAL - it will, in the end, be wrung out for nothing.
                    The Third Energy Package extends the effect of the Second Energy Package to transit pipelines passing through the EU, including sea pipelines.
                    1. abc_alex
                      abc_alex 13 September 2019 00: 39
                      +1
                      Quote: Oo sarcasm
                      OPAL is the property of Gazprom’s subsidiary, the miner. AND

                      The gas pipeline project was developed by the German company OPAL NEL TRANSPORT GmbH, in the operational management of which it is currently located, which, in turn, is a subsidiary of Wingas.
                      Gazprom was squeezed out of Europe for a very long time.


                      Quote: Oo sarcasm
                      The Third Energy Package extends the effect of the Second Energy Package to transit pipelines passing through the EU, including sea pipelines.

                      Therefore, Gazprom does not draw its own pipelines across the EU.
                      The third energy package applies only to the EU. Therefore, SP-1 and SP-2 per se cannot be regulated by the package.
                      But even if nothing changes, the EC can provide the SOE with 100% OPAL capacity legally, since there are no other applicants for it. Yes, and the GP has options outside of your alarmist scenarios.
                      1. Town Hall
                        Town Hall 13 September 2019 00: 48
                        -1
                        Quote: abc_alex
                        EC may provide SOEs with 100% OPAL capacity legally

                        Can not.
                        BRUSSELS / WARSAW, 10 September. / TASS /. The European Court of Justice annulled a 2016 decision of the European Commission (EC), according to which Russian Gazprom could fully use the capacity of the OPAL gas pipeline. This is stated in the court decision at the disposal of TASS.

                        "The court of first instance ruled: the decision of the European Commission of October 28, 2016, revising the conditions of exemptions for the OPAL gas pipeline with regard to third-party access and tariff regulation, was annulled. The European Commission must pay its own legal costs and expenses of the Republic of Poland [in this claim]", - says the decision
                        vessels
                        Quote: abc_alex
                        The third energy package applies only to the EU. Therefore, SP-1 and SP-2 per se cannot be regulated by the package

                        Last winter, by decision of the EC, offshore pipelines were equated by status to onshore and the same restrictions apply
    3. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 23 August 2019 12: 30
      +1
      Quote: mig29mks
      No one to negotiate with !!! Why do we even have to agree? Why do we need this?

      Here is a concern so a concern! Well, the child doesn’t want to eat porridge for his own health - and okay! No, we climb with his spoon to his mouth, then to his ass - eat, well, please ...... Yes, he went to ..... And the benefits for them on gas, and discounts, and a brand new contract, just do mercy , pooh on them! am You would have thought better of gasification of your country with benefits and discounts for not very rich people! Otherwise, gasifying a house with all the papers, projects, laying (in one day), control and accounting costs the same as a good piece of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline, and on enemy territory! stop
  5. Klingon
    Klingon 23 August 2019 11: 39
    +4
    let them switch to alternative energy sources, solar panels, windmills, firewood, cow cakes (dried well) and pork manure (for methane), beet (get ethyl alcohol) wassat
    1. Pedrodepackes
      Pedrodepackes 23 August 2019 11: 47
      +5
      Quote: Klingon
      let them switch to alternative energy sources

      What do you think, they are worried about the people, they need pumping to Europe, for which free money flows into the pocket of the river))
  6. aszzz888
    aszzz888 23 August 2019 11: 41
    +2
    Naftogaz puts forward its "fantastic" conditions - to pump through Ukraine 100 billion cubic meters of gas annually, what Russia "twists a finger to his temple".

    That's right and does, stop feeding freeloaders. Ordinary people paid for gas (in August 2019, the price of gas, which was unnecessary, increased by 1018% !!!) will continue to overpay.
    1. SHIPS
      SHIPS 23 August 2019 17: 20
      -6
      So far, the number is 60.
      The price of oil has fallen, but the price of gas has risen?
      Well, you're a chemist :-)
      In a financial sense :-)
      1. abc_alex
        abc_alex 24 August 2019 09: 40
        0
        Quote: NAVI
        The price of oil has fallen, but the price of gas has risen?
        Well, you're a chemist :-)
        In a financial sense :-)

        You are a simple farmer, and therefore you don’t understand much. For example, such a phenomenon as a time lag and semi-annual averaging.
        But just take it as a miracle.
  7. igorbrsv
    igorbrsv 23 August 2019 11: 42
    +6
    . Russia does not refuse negotiations and offers Kiev to conclude a one-year contract with further prospects for extension, which of course does not suit Ukraine

    Quite expected. After the completion of the one-year contract, with the introduction of the SP-2, Ukraine will not have any trump cards. They benefit from a long-term contract. Fantastic conditions by Ukraine are presented as a bargaining chip. I would refuse to renew the contract at all and notified all foreign "partners" about it. Or let them persuade them themselves, or help finish the construction of the SP-2. Even if you "freeze your ears" out of spite. Gazprom will incur losses. And the "partners" will lose everything. Gas supply disruptions can ruin any economy in the world
    1. SHIPS
      SHIPS 23 August 2019 17: 17
      -6
      Antitrust laws. Europe will never accept that gas supplies from Russia will be more than 30-35%.
      In principle, it is now.
  8. usr01
    usr01 23 August 2019 11: 48
    +1
    ... at the moment Russia has no one to negotiate with ... in Ukraine ...

    And at what point was with whom ??? Until the 90th year ???
  9. Klingon
    Klingon 23 August 2019 11: 57
    +1
    Quote: Pedrodepackes
    Quote: Klingon
    let them switch to alternative energy sources

    What do you think, they are worried about the people, they need pumping to Europe, for which free money flows into the pocket of the river))

    Of course, I just wanted to touch it, but people really need to think about firewood and various substrates from them, there are special briquette, pellet stoves and heating systems on them. by the way very popular in Germany, along with solar panels
    1. monah
      monah 23 August 2019 14: 06
      +1
      You can think of the people, but how can you pay for this happiness if there is no money for gas with light?
  10. Vladimir Anatolyevich
    Vladimir Anatolyevich 23 August 2019 11: 57
    +1
    In my opinion, you can take a little time to finish building SP2. Type, confirm the serviceability, the throughput of your gas transmission system, otherwise, how many years our gas does not go through your pipe. Maybe the pipes are already gone. Risks may be due to shortcomings for the end user. Arrow movements to prepare, so to speak.
  11. Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 23 August 2019 12: 01
    +2
    Kobolev and Vetrenko are only doing what they care about their pocket, and the rest of whom they care about, not really about the people?
  12. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 23 August 2019 12: 03
    +1
    And then who is going to win trials against Gazprom? And get mythical payouts? That's HELLO!
  13. musorg
    musorg 23 August 2019 12: 25
    -1
    Your obstacle to you and clean it!
  14. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 23 August 2019 12: 29
    +2
    Naftogaz "is the only obstacle to concluding a new gas contract with Russia.
    If suddenly, for some reason, Naftogaz was not in Ukraine, the Maidan authorities simply had to invent it. How much dough has settled in the pockets of the "independent" Ukrainian elite, how many nasty things have been done to Russia, incl. in the face of "Gazprom", and how much more in the plans. Yes, this company svidomye should put a monument on a par with Bandera and Shukhevych.
    1. SHIPS
      SHIPS 23 August 2019 17: 15
      -7
      "So do not throw a sucker" (c)
  15. BAI
    BAI 23 August 2019 12: 43
    -9
    31.12.2019/XNUMX/XNUMX the contract will be signed. The whole question is on whose terms. Most likely in Ukrainian.
    1. Mikhail Malakhov
      Mikhail Malakhov 23 August 2019 12: 49
      -6
      Well, how is it ... Have you not read the comments of local top managers?
    2. lis-ik
      lis-ik 23 August 2019 14: 22
      -6
      Quote: BAI
      31.12.2019/XNUMX/XNUMX the contract will be signed. The whole question is on whose terms. Most likely in Ukrainian.

      I don't even doubt it. Although the natural greed of "our locomotives of the economy" may outweigh.
    3. eagle owl
      eagle owl 23 August 2019 15: 43
      0
      So if by the beginning of the year only SP-2 will be completed, but not the gas distribution network in Germany - where to pump gas? To Germany, and then open the valve - and into the atmosphere? There are no options until Germany SP-2 plugs into its network - will have to negotiate with dill. Because they want a contract for a year, that’s the whole point.
    4. Oyo Sarkazmi
      Oyo Sarkazmi 23 August 2019 17: 04
      0
      The only country that loses gas from the termination of transit is Serbia. Agreements with other countries also end on 31/12/2019, either receive gas under annual contracts (Hungary), or have already thrown a jumper into OPAL (Slovakia). Do you feel sorry for the Serbs?
  16. Alex Nevs
    Alex Nevs 23 August 2019 13: 10
    +1
    Doesn't the tomos of Waltzman warm?
  17. g1washntwn
    g1washntwn 23 August 2019 13: 31
    +3
    If Ukraine itself says that there is no one to negotiate with, then what trilateral negotiations is the EU collecting? Brussels - Gazprom - son of Biden?
  18. samarin1969
    samarin1969 23 August 2019 14: 28
    0
    Facebook Medvedchuk - the main newsmaker of gas negotiations. That's just funny. laughing
  19. evgen1221
    evgen1221 23 August 2019 14: 46
    +2
    It seems to me that Herr Medvedchuk is creeping in front of us with the main goal of continuing the freebie for gas and continuing the suction of gas in a pipe that is quiet but for his people.
    1. abc_alex
      abc_alex 24 August 2019 10: 03
      0
      Quote: evgen1221
      Medvedchuk creeps in front of us with the main goal of continuing the freebie

      No. He just did not reveal the whole chain of reasoning.
      The fact is that in the impulse of Europeanization (well, it’s just scary to be left without money from Brussels), the Ukrainians took upon themselves the promises of 3 energy packages. I note that they are not Europe, no matter how they jumped and repeated their mantras, and therefore were not required to do this. But accepted.
      And according to these rules, a legal entity separate from the producer should deal with gas transit. To liquidate Naftogaz and instead to make a mining and transport company. Everything is simple. BUT! Realizing that the money is leaving the Kobolev family, he is blocking the process of creating new companies in every possible way, trying not to liquidate his office, but somehow integrate the system with a third wheel.
      And now the situation is already absurdly absurd. It makes no sense to negotiate with Naftogaz - it will be liquidated in the coming months, which makes agreements with it legally void and requiring at least a confirmation procedure by a new transit country. But there is no new company and will not be yet, since Naftogaz blocks its creation. Ours, even with all our desire, simply has no one to negotiate with. And the situation does not move: Kobolev has grown firmly to the feeder, you will not tear it off. Ours all this badminto cheat cheat - the Ukrainians are obliged to provide transit for the same 3rd package, even if there is no agreement.
      And Zelensky has a constitutional reform on his nose that will leave him exactly as many powers as would be enough to read a reprise in the Rada and the UN. And the party recruited from ice cream sellers, hairdressers and photographers is not so reliable ... This is not a Soviet system.

      So Medvedchuk simply states a fact - Naftogaz is really the main obstacle and Kobolev does not want to lose money and power from the beginning.
  20. eagle owl
    eagle owl 23 August 2019 14: 47
    0
    And what if these Vitrenkov and the Kobolevs were dismissed from the office, which ceased to exist on January 1, 3030, immediately "he will have someone to negotiate with"? feel The main reason then is that there is neither a counterparty with whom it is possible to negotiate, nor, in fact, the subject of the contract. The Ukrainian side is required at least to guarantee the operation of the GTS. Who will provide them? And what can you agree on in principle ?!
  21. Normal ok
    Normal ok 23 August 2019 14: 55
    0
    This alternative-thinking something can "declare" a lot of things, but everything was laid on it. For! everyone knows how much dough (in the 90s and 00s) he welded on the cut of gas traffic (together with "partners" from Gazprom).
  22. iouris
    iouris 23 August 2019 15: 26
    0
    The main obstacle is heat.
  23. Mixanchik
    Mixanchik 23 August 2019 16: 22
    +2
    Russia has no one to negotiate with, since Ukraine lacks a government and those people who will be responsible for signing the contract.

    As early as five years .. !!! In general, on any contract with the Outskirts, there must be signatures of guarantors from the EU and the USA, their representatives rode on the Maidan ...
    And then I look all scattered through their holes, like winter is on the way .. Let the United States drive its liquefied gas to them and South Africa coal.he hehe Damn accustomed to free Russian gas ... No, "brothers", you will have to pay in full even from that money who pay you for russophobia and blood in the Donbass!
    1. SHIPS
      SHIPS 23 August 2019 17: 12
      -7
      Russia will pay for transit.
      Something you are completely lost :-)
      1. Mixanchik
        Mixanchik 23 August 2019 18: 28
        -1
        Quote: NAVI
        Russia will pay for transit.
        Something you are completely lost :-)

        Well, soon the outskirts of metal will hand over this pipe to the Baltic States .. Gas to Europe will go around them .. All the freebie ends! Let the Turks and Germans beg for gas
  24. SHIPS
    SHIPS 23 August 2019 17: 11
    -7
    I don’t think that in such matters you can trust Putin’s godfather, which is Medvedchuk. :-)
  25. Evil echo
    Evil echo 23 August 2019 18: 22
    0
    . The European Commission is proposing trilateral talks in mid-September, having already sent invitations to all parties.

    And right there
    ... It is useless to negotiate with Naftogaz - from January 1, 2020 the company ceases to exist.

    Who sent the invitation?
  26. APASUS
    APASUS 23 August 2019 19: 46
    0
    The management of Naftogaz, namely, the head of the company Andrey Kobolev and executive director Yuriy Vitrenko, are the most important obstacles to concluding a new gas agreement between Ukraine and Russia. As stated by Medvedchuk, they must leave their posts.

    In my opinion, Medvedchuk is looking too primitively at this problem. The fact is that Kobolev and Vitrenko are part of the system, and the system is controlled by politicians of the rank:
  27. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 23 August 2019 20: 06
    +1
    "On the other hand, at the moment Russia has no one to negotiate with, since there is no government in Ukraine and those people who will be responsible for signing the contract. And it is useless to negotiate with Naftogaz - from January 1, 2020 the company will cease to exist."
    Not strong in these matters, but there is a certain expression there for the fact that "the problems of the Indian sheriff should not worry" ...
    Perhaps this is the case?!.
  28. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 23 August 2019 21: 21
    +1
    One frosty winter will cool people and the next contract in 2020, he will sign faster.
  29. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 23 August 2019 23: 27
    -1
    My opinion. More profitable DO NOT HAVE affairs (any) with Ukraine wassat ! yes