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It stood, it stood, but it slowed down

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The Russian economy is growing slower than the world - less than 2% against 3. Including 1% slower than the main "partner", the USA, and yet this "partner" is already at a sky-high level, for us. This is one of our main problems. A more developed and larger state, sooner or later, will find ways to neutralize all the efforts of the less developed. And if we take into account the scale of the export of capital from Russia, including just money to foreign shareholders, do we have growth? There are too many foreign holders of shares in our largest companies, too many foreigners on the boards of directors of these companies. Rather, those countries where capital is exported are growing additionally. Once again, I draw attention to the fact that an increase in the number of cars in homes does not mean economic growth. Just at a certain stage in the development of society, even in the absence of growth, wealth will accumulate - production is ahead of consumption.




Now have a little patience. There was such an animal behavior specialist, Conrad Lorenz. He drew attention to the behavior of higher animals. At a certain age, a young animal chooses its owner, an example to follow, a model of behavior. And if at that time there was a wonderful example nearby (from our point of view), then the cub will grow up with excellent behavior. This is quite explainable by evolution - an individual should not learn everything from scratch, there is no time, it is more profitable to take an example from a higher neighbor. I reasonably believe that this also applies to people in many ways. And not just teenagers. If a person took place in a certain field of activity, then it is extremely difficult for him to fit almost the opposite. That is why it is necessary to pay special attention to the training and education of young people. That is why the educator, teacher are representatives of the basic areas of activity. And that is why a good foreman and a good team need years to correct a trashy young man who has fallen into the team.

In 2016, a new Minister of Economic Development, Maxim Oreshkin, appeared. 1982 year of birth, Master of Higher School of Economics. 2002 - 2013 economist ... chief economist of the Central Bank, Rosbank, Credit Agricole Bank, VTB Capital. 2013 - 2015 Director of the Department of the Ministry of Finance (the Ministry of Finance, where, roughly speaking, they save, but do not directly deal with the creation and production). 2015 - 2016 Deputy Minister of Finance. 2016 - Minister of Economic Development. Epithets according to Oreshkin - creative; smart; brave; classy macroeconomist, etc. I’m looking for what he created, in which he distinguished himself and again: smart, bold, creative, competent, working on creating “... a ministry of the future with strong personalities ...”. Well, enlighten the masses that he created! Do not enlighten. And of the 13 ministers in the Ministry of Economic Development, only 1 (ONE!), The miner Nazarov, was associated with production. And for three years now, Oreshkin has been waiting for a breakthrough in the economy as Minister of Economics. And what has fundamentally changed is that in 2017 the federal state statistics service entered the structure of the Ministry of Economic Development. This is comparable to the subordination of the service of the chief accountant of the enterprise to the head of one of the shops.

Who is the banker? Even a very good banker, what is Oreshkin possibly? Not the one that snapped billions of our dollars into Sberbank in Ukraine after the Maidan, where they safely disappeared for us. And having done such things, well, why should he in the zero of his aircraft industry, it is better to buy Boeing and Airbus. And fearlessly, without consequences, he called Russia a downshifter country, as if he had nothing to do with the country's development. So, even a very good banker is engaged in a two-pronged task - to buy cheaper (open deposits at a small percentage), sell more expensive (give a loan at a large percentage). A banker is a financier. And the financier is not an economist at all! Not to produce, not to build, not to substitute a shoulder, but only to buy-sell, buy-sell. It was not for nothing that there were engineers, engineering and economics departments before. But there was no engineering and financial, since it is almost like engineering and thimble. And to put even a good banker on the development of the country's economy is cool! It's like asking a poodle to find a squirrel in the taiga. He had already taken place in a completely different field, he chose a model of behavior. Can't you find Primakov, Maslyukov, Gerashchenko from the 150 millions who pulled Russia out of the 1998 year? After all, these "effective managers" got it.

I have more leftist views than Zyuganov’s, but I already agree that even billionaires, but patriots, if only from manufacturing (but by no means raw materials!) Companies and holdings began to steer. I think there are such. Well, these will not be appointed Minister of Economics, and not only economics, without steps: technical university - master - beginning section / workshop - chief engineer / director. I agree to the patriotic general, but who began his service as a platoon commander not in the capitals. And only after positive results of work everywhere. And when fulfilling the requirement: the more responsibilities, the more rights, but also more responsibility. And those who didn’t manage not to move horizontally one or two steps lower, but to drive (often not able to manage and taken off becomes a vengeful and dangerous enemy to remove him and the whole team). I believe that in industry there are those who will give a hundred points to the current ministers. I want the economy to be dealt with by those who ensure annual growth of at least 7%, otherwise there are such sky-high payments, who are ready to answer publicly for every promise they make, who will despise the owners and passengers of thousand-ton yachts. In the meantime, we are lagging behind the main "partner" more and more.
And two jokes and one cool expression. 1. We are told that our economy has slowed down. What is it like? She practically stood, stood, and suddenly she also slowed down? 2. Two ministers reason: - Listen, do you understand what is going on in our economy? - Come on, I'll explain to you. “I can explain it myself, but do you at least understand something?”
3. The greatest of all immoralities is to take on a cause that you cannot do. N. Bonaparte.
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  1. Svarog
    Svarog 23 August 2019 15: 07
    +40
    3. The greatest of all immoralities is to take on a cause that you cannot do. N. Bonaparte.

    A very accurate statement .. considering that for our government "morality" is an unknown word ..
    In the meantime, we are lagging behind the main "partner" more and more.

    The lag in itself is not such a sad fact as the fact that there is no hope ..
    1. Yrec
      Yrec 23 August 2019 15: 19
      +16
      This phrase is fully consistent with our system of government, which originated under Yeltsin and flourished under Putin. Rampant nepotism, corruption, lack of a personnel lift in positions above the leading specialist. Putin only recently began to understand what he had done and gave to saw Kiriyenko and his "Leaders of Russia" staff, he was 5 years late. The system is changing sooooo slowly, unfortunately. We will see Kiriyenko's results only in 3-5 years. Dragged - will become the next president, no - will go into political oblivion.
      1. Galleon
        Galleon 23 August 2019 15: 38
        +27
        Quote: Yrec
        Soooooooo slowly changing system, unfortunately. Only after 3-5 years we will see the results of Kiriyenko.

        That is why the president will not change after 2024? laughing
        Eh, if only so ... And he will not change, because he simply does not want to. He likes to "row". On the gallery, of course. What did you think? laughing
        I would like to have a drink with the author - "for the economy." An honest article: both on an overview of the situation, and on one of the key problems, and on those that do not offer their own recipes. Because what else can we do except blow off steam with sarcastic jokes or hack with such an article? The rowers are not interested in our proposals. They are not even interested in our work, judging by the pondering of a 4-day work week.
        All a good and gentle weekend! End of summer.
        1. AUL
          AUL 23 August 2019 15: 49
          +15
          Quote: Galleon
          I would like to have a drink with the author - "for the economy."

          Without clinking glasses ...
          1. Hlavaty
            Hlavaty 23 August 2019 16: 05
            +13
            Especially from such "leftist views":
            I have more leftist views than Zyuganov’s, but I already agree that even billionaires, but patriots, if only from manufacturing (but by no means raw materials!) Companies and holdings began to steer.

            "Billionaire patriot" is like "bees against honey". If the author has such left-wing views, then he should understand that the billionaire capitalist has no homeland. He has already sold it, for the billions that he has. Otherwise, he would not have billions.
            If anyone wants to object, please give examples of specific current Russian billionaire patriots.
            1. Honest Citizen
              Honest Citizen 23 August 2019 19: 10
              +10
              If anyone wants to object, please give examples of specific current Russian billionaire patriots.

              Rottenberg, Vekselberg, Usmanov, Sechin, Medvedev ...
              In words, they are all patriots. And many like even like the "Immortal Regiment" wanted to light up with the main "Moses" ...
              Aren't they patriots? Yes, even on May 9 they will wave a glass at a banquet in the Kremlin, and pathetically say "the people and the party are united" ...
              So there are more than enough "patriotic billionaires" in the country.
              1. Hlavaty
                Hlavaty 23 August 2019 19: 16
                +14
                I understand that you’re kind of joking ... but when I think about how much they pumped out of the country in three decades, how brazenly they robbed and continue to rob people, it somehow becomes completely not funny.
                1. Honest Citizen
                  Honest Citizen 23 August 2019 19: 34
                  +13
                  but when I think about how much they pumped out of the country in three decades

                  I try not to think about it, otherwise I want a "riot, senseless and bloody" ...
              2. AAK
                AAK 23 August 2019 22: 39
                +6
                Colleague, you are still Miller, and especially Gref and Chubais, add to the patriots ...: ((((Since the time of EBN, there have not been a single real non-commodity industrialist in the government, now there is not, and most likely will not ... Also, not a single general, although he would give a damn about the entire service of the garrisons and hot spots, can pull the economy ... There’s nothing good to do with a thunder command or even a barrel at the head (sorry for the involuntary pun), unfortunately, the economy own laws and drive belts
                1. Honest Citizen
                  Honest Citizen 23 August 2019 22: 43
                  0
                  and not even a barrel near the head can do anything good (sorry for the involuntary pun)

                  Here you are wrong. Sometimes the trunk at the temple makes "the impossible out of the possible".
                  1. AAK
                    AAK 23 August 2019 22: 43
                    +2
                    Alas, but only in the very short term ....
                2. 210ox
                  210ox 24 August 2019 07: 07
                  +8
                  I dare to assure you that Lavrenty Palych was also not a production worker, although he had a technical education. However, it was he who organized the department as a result of which he became a middle man, and not only ..
                  1. eagle owl
                    eagle owl 24 August 2019 10: 05
                    +1
                    And there was the People's Commissar Dzerzhinsky. By the way, as a manager - proved to be just great!
              3. nickname7
                nickname7 27 August 2019 15: 14
                -1
                Are not the patriots?

                Patriots, but not a small part of them live behind enemy lines.
          2. afrikanez
            afrikanez 23 August 2019 18: 38
            0
            She was buried without us ... just to drink in silence.
      2. Svarog
        Svarog 23 August 2019 16: 10
        +17
        Quote: Yrec
        Soooooooo slowly changing system, unfortunately.

        In my opinion, the system does not change at all ..
        Quote: Yrec
        Only after 3-5 years we will see the results of Kiriyenko. Dragged - will become the next president, no - will go into political oblivion.

        Kiriyenko, just represents this system, which you and I do not like .. Where can he drag us?
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 23 August 2019 21: 49
          +6
          Quote: Svarog
          Where can he drag us?

          a little bit in the past 1998
      3. Vlad.by
        Vlad.by 23 August 2019 16: 42
        -11
        Envy silently!
        And in general - what do you know about the public administration system?
        No way an ardent stockist?
      4. New Year day
        New Year day 23 August 2019 21: 49
        +8
        Quote: Yrec
        Only after 3-5 years we will see the results of Kiriyenko.

        another default? laughing
  2. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 23 August 2019 15: 14
    +10
    Maybe we will "break" "soon", but for a long life I have heard enough promises with enough. I would like to improve, cardinal tomorrow or, okay, the day after tomorrow. I agree with the author, our business is bad ...
    1. depressant
      depressant 23 August 2019 17: 49
      +13
      The author removed the question from the language. I always thought: our own production is not developing, but there is a ministry of economic development. What does it develop? Looking for investors? Which, having built, say, a factory for the production of CNC machine tools in our country, will send most of the revenue first to Germany, from there a part to Japan, a small part will be unfastened to the Russian directors, a little to the workers, otherwise they would not have been built, and within 7 years They will pay Russia an insignificant tax under the law on foreign investments, and even agreed not to share the secrets of technology with us - they already took the subscription!
      Well, you understand that I mean the plant in Yekaterinburg, the Okuma Corporation concern, which entered into an alliance with the Russian LLC Pumbri-SIZ through the German branch of the Japanese Okum Europe CmbH. It's just laughter! Development! It will be necessary, the equipment will be scooped up and departed, leaving us bare walls. If they consider that the workers are already very demanding steel, they want to raise their wages. Such is the development ...
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 23 August 2019 20: 06
        +7
        Quote: depressant
        own production is not developing, but there is a ministry of economic development. What does it develop? Looking for investors?

        This is "MEN" - the Ministry of Economic Underdevelopment. Its main task is to create such conditions that, even with the most favorable factors, will restrain economic development.
      2. nickname7
        nickname7 27 August 2019 15: 19
        +1
        Ministry of Economic Development - is. What does it develop? Looking for investors?

        It rents the country for rent, for a small share. To all comers - come investors, please Volodymyr with labor and resources.
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 23 August 2019 22: 09
      +8
      Quote: ODERVIT
      Maybe we will "tear off" "soon" ...

      not tear. In the eyes of the head of state, the current fiscal policy is close to ideal.
      “Over the past five years, no country in the world has made such a breakthrough in terms of budget stability: a sharp reduction in budget spending, a serious increase in income. In 2013, with a oil price of $ 110 per barrel, our budget was scarce. And in 2018 - surplus of 2,6% of GDP at a price of $ 70 dollars per barrel, balanced - at a price of $ 56-59. ”
      And as Medvedev says:

      Therefore, a breakthrough can only be in new taxes and cutting everything
      1. Victor N
        Victor N 24 August 2019 12: 49
        0
        And who brought to the closure of enterprises?
        The plant was working, everything was fine and "suddenly": there was no money for wages; there is no money for the purchase of materials and components; products stopped buying .....
        But why "suddenly" ?! Where was the production director looking with the staff of the best production workers? Why did you bring it to "suddenly"? Photos of ruined workshops: who demolished and handed over to scrap machines - is it not "members of the labor collective"?
        So why appoint bankers guilty?
        And after all, not all enterprises were destroyed (fortunately!) To the foundation - did some manage to save some (with jobs and salaries), organize production of demanded products, gain a foothold in the market, and even send them for export? Who is this ?! - Yes, these are the so-now despised millionaire oligarchs! Is not it?!
        And the wise production workers, "red directors", have managed to turn such high-tech enterprises of the military-industrial complex into garbage! Because of their own incompetence and deep arrogance!
        So do not believe recklessly to such manufacturers!
        1. olimpiada15
          olimpiada15 24 August 2019 17: 49
          +6
          And what could a production director do?
          There was a woodworking enterprise: successful, developing, products with unlimited demand. It was destroyed. It all started with a lack of money supply. In the USSR, cash was available for retail sale. No money was printed for industrial and technical products. When the plan was canceled and the products went to the free market, there was not enough money. A situation was created when the operating enterprise could not pay the salary, there was no money on the account. They began to analyze: the amount of debt is less than the amount of funds not received. We carried out a "netting", the enterprises started working again for a while and the situation repeated itself: again a card index with a positive balance. Instead of offsetting, they offered to solve problems by contacting commercial banks. They had money (where did the state give out cheap money?), At 200% per annum. There is no such profitability in production. And then the balance became negative. The company went bankrupt. Naturally, all "ineffective" leaders were removed. And the "effective" managers of investment funds came, who had no money. The new owners did not bring money, they began to sell the necessary goods in the store at the enterprise. So the wage arrears were paid off. In my eyes, for the period from 60s to 80s That is, the enterprise drowning in mud under the leadership of Soviet production workers turned into a backbone enterprise of the ministry with a powerful social sphere, including providing the team and social institutions with food 2) from the 90s to the present day, workshops, a boiler house became unusable, the social sphere was destroyed Payment for utilities makes up a significant part of the expenses of most residents, and systematic outages for all types of services due to repairs.If earlier, with a low salary, people received almost free a lot of social services, now, with modest incomes, the population was obliged to maintain and to develop the communal sector, endless ineffective repairs at the expense of the population is the achievement of an effective manager s, a means to increase the number of millionaires. And where is the economy here?
          1. Victor N
            Victor N 25 August 2019 12: 17
            +2
            Beautifully explained! But I couldn’t explain to students why a Chinese company, having bought wood and rolled products from US, successfully sold hammers in our market (screwdrivers, screws, etc.).
      2. nickname7
        nickname7 27 August 2019 15: 21
        0
        a jerk can only be in new taxes and cutting everything

        Trim and save - this is the accumulation of hornbeam.
  3. parusnik
    parusnik 23 August 2019 15: 24
    +10
    Billionaires are patriots, who is it interesting? smile
    1. Signal
      Signal 23 August 2019 16: 06
      +12
      Capital has no homeland. Classics of the genre.
      1. nickname7
        nickname7 27 August 2019 15: 42
        -1
        Capital has no homeland. Classics of the genre


        It depends on which capital. In the states, for some reason, capital is not taken to the Sberbank. For some reason, there is no homeland for capital, only among the countries of the periphery of raw material capitalism.
        Secondly, the withdrawal of capital can be limited, as Primakov did, pulling the country out of default. but there are rules called the Washington Consensus, and so liberals abide by these rules.
        Thus, the withdrawal of capital is organized by the Central Bank and the RF Ministry of Finance. Which proves that Russia is a colony of the West.
    2. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 23 August 2019 17: 17
      -1
      Alexei, well, at least Galitsky.
  4. eagle owl
    eagle owl 23 August 2019 15: 28
    +8
    Just at a certain stage in the development of society, even in the absence of growth, wealth will accumulate - production is ahead of consumption.

    Yes? And I remember something that this is called not the accumulation of wealth, but a crisis of overproduction. And the accumulation crisis is never even close ...
    And further. Economic growth is possible with a sales market. Poke your finger where such a sales market is, where the Russian Federation is expected, and which in capacity is able to give a growth in demand for any product from the Russian Federation at 7% per year. Any products, even hypothetical?
    And then we can talk about bankers. Which are not needed at all by the Ministry of Economic Development, despite the fact that the banking sector reform is in full swing, started around 2012, and entered the working rhythm only in 2016, when a significant enlargement of banks began. And the reform of the banking sector is caused solely by the fact that when a country and a half thousand SMALL banks with registered capital with a mouse mink, it is impossible to open ANY production larger than a stall in the country - no one is physically able to give money to start production. And this despite the tendency towards the enlargement of banks in Europe, they can give this money, but they will order music - that is, they will give the outflow of capital from the country that the author is so sad about.
    And why is the banker in the ministers, when the number one task is to reform the banking sector, without which there will be no industry? Only state-owned enterprises can be?
    1. Slon379
      Slon379 23 August 2019 16: 06
      +8
      We have where to dig deep into ourselves. They just got carried away with inflation targeting, by reducing consumer demand, stupidly pumped money out of the economy. What kind of GDP growth can we talk about when enterprises choke and cannot sell products, not because there is no demand, but because half the population works on their stomachs.
      1. Alekseev
        Alekseev 23 August 2019 16: 36
        +13
        The economist is right on the economist. wink
        Without a bottle and can not be taken apart. (Drink. You want, they want without clinking glasses)
        It seems to me that economic growth is a somewhat crafty concept, like average salary
        For example, if we will produce the same amount of hydrocarbons, and the price will be $ 100 per barrel, is this growth or not quite growth? Or is it a prerequisite for an increase in imports with all the consequences for domestic enterprises? Or a prerequisite for investing in foreign securities?
        It is naive to think that the Russian Federation will grow, selling planes, tractors, etc. abroad. There is a clear example of China.
        Economic growth must be domestic. Due to large infrastructure projects, due to import substitution, due to
        that the money of the "dzhamshuts" should be earned by our citizens. And also due to the fact that a young Russian should dream of working not as a manager in an office, but as a cool specialist in a workshop or at a construction site.
        1. Slon379
          Slon379 25 August 2019 14: 19
          +1
          I fully support, there is much to strive for and be realized within ourselves.
        2. nickname7
          nickname7 27 August 2019 15: 58
          +1
          Economic growth must be domestic. Due to large infrastructure projects, due to import substitution, due to

          Gold words.
      2. eagle owl
        eagle owl 24 August 2019 08: 05
        0
        The basics. And it is the economy. And here is WHAT you described -
        half of the population works on the stomach.

        Then even Wikipedia will do:
        D. Ricardo proceeded from the idea that the overproduction of all goods at once is impossible, because human needs are unlimited. In this case, the manufacturer sells his goods only when he wants to purchase another product. Therefore, each product represents a market for other products.
        1. Slon379
          Slon379 25 August 2019 14: 25
          0
          Well, and what other goods do the Turkish tomato producer want to buy with me? Oil Gas? I agree, only income from them is frozen in the budget or invested in papers over the hill. Synergy does not work, they choke us and prevent us from developing. Liberal model in action.
    2. nickname7
      nickname7 27 August 2019 15: 55
      0
      poke your finger where there is such a sales market, where the Russian Federation is waiting and which in capacity is able to increase demand for any products from the Russian Federation

      It’s very simple, the market is in the Russian Federation itself (and in the customs union), the Russian Federation can produce some of the imported goods on its own and buy at home, which will give jobs to the Russians, this is called import substitution. The same Britain, began its journey to the empire, with the crowding out of foreign merchants from its island. But the government is sabotaging import substitution, and in the liberal media the word import substitution is abusive. Without the removal of liberals from power, the development of the Russian Federation is impossible.
  5. iouris
    iouris 23 August 2019 15: 29
    +2
    Quote: "I have more left-wing views than Zyuganov" End of quote.
    This does not mean anything until you take action.
    I quote from memory: "Earlier, philosophers only explained the world, the task is to change it" (K. Marx)
  6. eagle owl
    eagle owl 23 August 2019 15: 38
    -3
    And yes, about production growth ...
    With a total nominal volume of Russia's GDP of $ 1,63 trillion, the size of our exports is 444 billion, of which "everything except energy" forms a share of about 40% (about 177,6 billion dollars). This is because in the current form of organization of the national economy, foreign markets form only 10,8% of the Russian economy.
    Translated into simple Russian - with all the talk about our openness, Russia is still trying to live relying solely on the capacity of the domestic market. And he, alas, is almost close to exhaustion.

    Put the producer in the Ministry of Economic Development. He will achieve an increase in the release of conditional Superjets by 1000%. So what? Nowhere to sell, but the workers have to pay. The result - bankruptcy and LIQUIDATION of aircraft manufacturing in the country. Because the minister knows how to set up production, he is a cool economist!
    1. olegfbi
      olegfbi 23 August 2019 16: 04
      +11
      He will achieve an increase in the release of conditional Superjets by 1000%. So what? Nowhere to sell, but the workers have to pay.

      I heard you ring, but you don’t know where he is!
      The development and growth of domestic production and consumption is the basis of the economy and economic security of any country!
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 23 August 2019 17: 23
        -2
        How do you market these same SSJs? Will you require airlines to buy them? There will be no sales, no production is needed.
        1. olegfbi
          olegfbi 23 August 2019 17: 52
          +8
          How do you market these same SSJs?

          Not only SSJ but also for example the heir to the AN-2 called TVS2-TS.
          It is catastrophically necessary to recreate lost regional and local airports! According to various estimates in Russia, in comparison with the RSFSR, the number of regional and local ports decreased by 1 units !!! Well, albeit they lie and not 000 but 1000, but this is a HUGE number!
          The state task is to recreate these very ports, subsidize leasing of DOMESTIC aircraft, and in many cases subsidize local and / or regional passenger flights. Under these conditions, the demand for conditional SSJ will be constant and stable.
          Something like this.
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 23 August 2019 22: 45
            +8
            Quote: olegfbi
            Not only SSJ but also for example the heir to the AN-2 called TVS2-TS.

            Once Poghosyan assured that he would make such an aircraft (SSJ) that 15% of all machines will be operated in the domestic Russian market, and 85% will be sold abroad.
            At the moment, it is not needed abroad; it is operated in the Russian Federation. But, the antimonopoly service of the Russian Federation found that the cost of flying on it is 20% more expensive, which the airlines explained by its rare flights due to breakdowns.
            Italy refused to buy the previously announced SSJ batch. Italy is a co-producing country.
            The cost of TVS2-TS is overstated (3 million S), and in the presence of already existing proven aircraft, this aircraft may not be in demand on the market. "Cessna-208" costs 2.5 million and does not pay off.
            The high price, high leasing payments, high operating costs and low capacity (according to the rules of the Federal Air Transport Agency on a single-engine aircraft can carry no more than 9 passengers) make the operation of this type of aircraft economically unprofitable. With expensive tickets there are no passengers, and with low tickets there is not enough revenue to cover milestone expenses. Breakeven operation requires large subsidies on airline tickets. But the federal budget does not subsidize intra-regional transportation, and the regions simply have no money.
            In addition, the plane will not be anything Russian. Engine American, American screw, American avionics. They refused the Russian composite - expensive. The Italian seems to have decided to use the composite, but information came, though unofficial, that the Italian company was sold to the Japanese, and now it is not clear what will happen to the price. A lot of problems, including how parts will be delivered, where the aircraft will be repaired, and what plants will be repaired.
            1. olegfbi
              olegfbi 24 August 2019 08: 39
              +3
              High price, high lease payments, high operating costs and low capacity

              Absolutely everything the problems you described are True! All this, a very large and separate topic.
              At the same time, all these problems can and should be solved, and this is quite real. But again, this is a separate topic for discussion.
              All the same, in the context of the discussion, we are talking about CONDITIONAL SSJ. In reality, it can be another aircraft altogether. And the conditional SSJ is taken as an example, but in general we can talk about any product in the context of the development of production and the economy as a whole.
              Something like this.
              1. Victor N
                Victor N 24 August 2019 12: 59
                +1
                Very very abstract!
            2. nickname7
              nickname7 27 August 2019 16: 18
              +1
              The high price, high leasing payments, high operating costs and low capacity make the operation of this type of aircraft economically unprofitable

              The liberals do not stick where, wedge, everything is not effective, apparently it remains to migrate or lie down in the coffin.
          2. Victor N
            Victor N 24 August 2019 12: 58
            +1
            Airports, planes .... And who, I apologize, will fly? Is there currently unsatisfied solvent demand?
    2. nickname7
      nickname7 27 August 2019 16: 13
      +1
      Nowhere to sell, but the workers have to pay

      And for example, build all kinds of machines, rollers, bulldozers, trucks, the Russian Federation buys equipment in large volumes, i.e. in the Russian Federation itself, it’s not a small market for machinery, but this market has been given to foreigners, and its tractor plants are bankrupt. And the WTO and the liberals are to blame.
      By the way there is a massive importation of Chinese trucks, as if KAMAZ did not go bankrupt. But all of you have no market, there are markets, there is no nationally oriented government.
      Airplanes need to start to be manufactured with regional aircraft, in Russia there is a huge need for regionalists, a large market, they cannot efficiently develop markets, they cannot create production, they can only seize and divide.
  7. olegfbi
    olegfbi 23 August 2019 15: 41
    +10
    Maybe we don’t know what, because we are NOT allowed to ...
    But still a couple of comments:
    1. Why is the country catastrophically NOT enough money in the economy? Not dollars or euros, but RUBLES not enough?
    Who can explain this? Well, a couple of three facts that say that there should simply be VERY many rubles, based on the classical economy:
    - Foreign currency earnings (all exports, including raw materials), denominated in dollars / euros, did not decrease, compared to 2014. But the exchange rate against the ruble has grown! Accordingly - Where is the increase in the ruble mass?
    - The cost of importing agricultural products fell significantly (this is a fact) and the domestic volume of its production increased. Where's the money?
    - The gloating liberals say that they are financing Crimea, therefore there is no money. This is not entirely true, for Crimea as part of Russia and money remain in the country's economy.
    2. Who and in general WHY invented the mantra "FIGHT inflation"? What does this very struggle lead to .. And to the fact that the Central Bank, the Ministry of Finance and Economic Development are doing EVERYTHING in order to squeeze lending, complicate the financing of production and national projects, and just get a loan for a small and medium-sized entrepreneur ...

    Well, after all, everything is elementary - For the development of the economy, money, freedom of entrepreneurship and preferences for small / medium-sized businesses are needed. Financing road construction, protectionism regarding real production, etc. That is what Primakov did with his team in 1998, and we observed positive results until 2014.
    In principle, I wrote the main thing.
    What are the nuts and co? I have no censored words, excuse me.
    Something like that, pent!
    1. CommanderDIVA
      CommanderDIVA 23 August 2019 16: 03
      0
      "And to the fact that the Central Bank, the Ministry of Finance and Economic Development are doing EVERYTHING possible in order to squeeze lending, complicate the financing of production and national projects, and just get a loan for a small and medium-sized entrepreneur ..." - well, in that case, to Oreshkin Nabiullina and Siluan, and to questions should arise from the FSB and the investigation for treason do you really think that the GDP is a spineless leader and turns a blind eye to the state of the economy in the country? It seems to me that the problem is on the ground in the regions, given the incompetence and incompetence of our governors in matters of the economy, in intrigues they have become skilled and have not learned to become strong business executives. An example from life I observe how the head of the Tambov region feverishly began to master the budget this year within the framework of national projects, everything is just the next year for him to be re-elected, and take the head of the Belgorod region, which has been working systematically for more than 20 years, albeit with some reservations
      1. olegfbi
        olegfbi 23 August 2019 16: 14
        +3
        The problem with the governors, only exacerbates voiced by me. And this is extremely sad!
    2. eagle owl
      eagle owl 23 August 2019 16: 05
      +2
      There are enough rubles in the economy.
      https://alex-leshy.livejournal.com/1379872.html
      With numbers and links to sources ...
      The total amount of free cash balances on bank accounts throughout the country reached 42 trillion rubles or (drum roll!) 43,2% of Russian GDP. So there really is money in the country. They can even finance one and a half times the growth of the economy, and not some miserable 1,5%. Case for small where exactly to invest and to whom then to sell an additional volume of goods?
      1. olegfbi
        olegfbi 23 August 2019 16: 12
        +6
        The fact that money lies (sleeps, dies ...) in the accounts of the Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank does NOT mean at all that they exist in the country's economy.
        And yes, if you carefully and thoroughly read this article, you can see that it does not contradict my post at all, but only supplements and expands it.
        So, think, read and DO NOT take it out of context.
        1. eagle owl
          eagle owl 23 August 2019 16: 20
          -3
          And I think, think ... And I read. You, apparently, did not read the answer. There, by the way, it is indicated, Yu, why your offers do not. If in a nutshell - no small-scale private traders - nifiga will not help you boost the economy, but the crisis of liberalism, that is, a market economy is observed in the world. The market has been replaced by protectionism, and the small ones, due to their small-scale integration, will NOT be lobbyed by anyone, and they will fly into the pipe with any support from the state. There is a good example in the article about milk, such a concrete one.
          Still, I recommend the article to which I referred - to read. And then the point once in your first post is a direct mistake, under paragraph 2 - I answered you, everything is spinning on the domestic market that has already hit the ceiling, but it has nowhere to grow stupidly, according to paragraph 3 - see above in this post ...
          That's it.
          1. olegfbi
            olegfbi 23 August 2019 16: 25
            +3
            There is even room for the inner roar to grow. That's just people can not buy, because money / salary stupidly not enough!
            God bless him with a small and generally any business. Just a fact - the level of RUB rubles in the field of defense, state security, etc. over the past 5 years has fallen by about 20%. These are not statistics, but simply personal observations based on the social circle.
            1. eagle owl
              eagle owl 23 August 2019 16: 41
              -2
              Once again - read the article. About the domestic market - again that example about milk. Tell me, among those of your friends - well, whose level in rubles has fallen. Are there anyone who lacks milk? Here you have it ... Um, an example ... Up to a penny - the MARKET specifically for milk inside the Russian Federation is saturated. Invest ... Develop ... There is no sense, there will be no growth. The market is over.
              It remains to develop only NOT the market, as discussed in the article. For example, a specific example, this is already not there. With the same milk - it can be driven to China, there is always a shortage of food, but how? And only through the lobby from the government, creating large corporations, the private trader will not stupidly get out of the Chinese market if he sits, for example, in Tver. And milk just can’t get it. But this is not the market already.
              1. olegfbi
                olegfbi 23 August 2019 16: 44
                +4
                Are there anyone who lacks milk?

                That is the problem, that besides conditional milk there is much more!
                But for this very "a lot of things" just not enough. This is where there is a huge reserve for the growth of production and, accordingly, consumption.
                1. Victor N
                  Victor N 24 August 2019 13: 12
                  -1
                  Oleg, no one will give out money, they must be ABLE to earn. But not everyone knows how, and some still don’t want to. In addition, it was repeatedly recorded that income growth correlates well with import growth, which does not help sales of domestic goods at all.
                  1. olegfbi
                    olegfbi 24 August 2019 15: 11
                    +1
                    Oleg, no one will give out money

                    Victor, the article and the whole discussion are NOT about distributing money at all!
                    The presence of money in the economy and its distribution and / or earnings, it is generally about different things!
                    You are clearly NOT in the subject and DO NOT understand ...
                    Excuse me!
              2. Galleon
                Galleon 23 August 2019 17: 22
                +2
                Sancta simplicitas! Well, my children do not have enough milk, so what. But am I the only one having many children? They used to drink it all the time, now I have a maximum of half days a month.
                Your words reflect your theoretical ideas about a strange and unknown life. Do not rely heavily on them.
                1. eagle owl
                  eagle owl 24 August 2019 05: 47
                  -10
                  Oops, and whose daughter are you an officer? theorist? Notice. here is the opponent above - did not object, he is not Spartak, but you - obviously it, do you know the phrase? Wait for your Auschwitz, but this time not you, but they will burn you. In latrine
                2. eagle owl
                  eagle owl 24 August 2019 07: 40
                  -2
                  Well, you know, about large families - this is another question. Incidentally, this is a very pure topic, and you’re completely off topic right now - what is bad, we and 2 children in the family are now considered TYPE a lot
    3. Svarog
      Svarog 23 August 2019 16: 17
      +5
      Quote: olegfbi
      1. Why is the country catastrophically NOT enough money in the economy? Not dollars or euros, but RUBLES not enough?
      Who can explain this?

      Nabiullina and others are easy to explain .. but there is no common sense in these explanations .. But there are awards that Nabiullina travels to the USA to receive ..
      1. eagle owl
        eagle owl 24 August 2019 10: 09
        -5
        Are you able to set out literary capable of what Nabiulina said? That's just without stamps from bulk? If you do not understand anything, this does not mean that she is a fool ...
        1. Ehanatone
          Ehanatone 25 August 2019 00: 59
          +2
          "Are you literary capable of what Nabiulina said? That's just without clichés from"
          But you will also set out literary without cliches and pile up why, regardless of oil prices on the market, gas prices are always rising ..!
          Moreover, all kinds of Vyakhirev’s reminders every time explain it very convincingly and reasonably, regardless of the rise or fall in market prices ..!
          Of course, with a salary of 8,5 million a day, they, Rem Vyakhirev, are supposed to, but the rest of the population doesn’t even have to put anything like that, even slightly similar to 8,5 million a day, and they don’t understand why! ? ...
      2. Victor N
        Victor N 24 August 2019 13: 21
        -4
        About the lack of money in the country - fairy tales! Loans - no problem. Loan rates cannot be lower than inflation.
        The problem is the lack of reliable, with reasonable projects of the BORROWERS. The country's shortage of responsible businessmen is a consequence of echoes of the class struggle. As a result, there is no one to develop the economy!
        1. olegfbi
          olegfbi 24 August 2019 14: 45
          +2
          Loans - no problem

          This statement is not just ridiculous, it causes just a homeric laughter and tears!
          Of course, a loan to buy a TV and even a car - No problem! I’ll be silent about the real% rate ...
          But a business loan is VERY hard! For the monsters of the market, possessing ROAD real estate loan is not a problem, on the security of this real estate. But for medium-sized businesses this is already a problem, because there is NO PRICE real estate, and the one that is in 99% of cases cannot provide a guarantee for the required money.
          You can write any business plans, only without a solid pledge a loan will not be given to you!
        2. nickname7
          nickname7 27 August 2019 16: 39
          -1
          Loan rates cannot be lower than inflation

          But the percentage of the loan, (costs) is laid in the product and creates inflation, the higher the percentage, the higher the inflation and the percentage of the loan increases, a vicious circle is obtained, but you can break it, step down the percentage of the loan, lower inflation. So the liberals refuse to break the vicious circle.
    4. New Year day
      New Year day 23 August 2019 22: 20
      +5
      Quote: olegfbi
      1. Why is the country catastrophically NOT enough money in the economy?

      “Sacred cows” of our economy:

      Budget consolidation (budget surplus over 3% of GDP).
      Tight monetary policy (the key rate of the Central Bank is 7,25%).
      Inflation targeting (forecast - 4,3% for the year).
      The accumulation of reserves (the volume of the NWF is almost 8 trillion rubles).
      Never before in the history of modern Russia has tight budget and monetary policy been such an absolute priority for the authorities. After the 2008 crisis, the Kremlin acted in exactly the opposite way: valorized pensions, preventing real incomes from falling at the cost of a budget deficit of 10% of GDP over two years. And now the state’s priorities are strictly defensive and mobilization in nature.
      The key problem is that the structure of the current government is not set up for development. Everything in it is subject to the preservation of stability.
      The economy is a serving element of Russia's foreign policy.
      Quote: olegfbi
      What are the nuts and co?

      but no way! For Oreshkin and Co. do not decide anything. Everything is decided by the corresponding division of the AP
      1. olegfbi
        olegfbi 24 August 2019 08: 42
        +2
        Economics is a serving element of Russia's foreign policy

        That is how it should be!
        Unfortunately, I am witnessing a gap between the economy and the foreign policy.
        Most likely we don’t know something, but this is not easier ... request
        Everything is decided by the appropriate division of the AP

        Most likely it is, or it should be. However, there is a concept - Excess of the performer. Oreshkin and Co. have enormous powers and, within the framework of the implementation of the "party line", can do such a mess that ...
        In addition, as they wrote here, the problem is with the governor’s corps and local authorities.
        Well, the AP cannot physically control and direct everything and everything. This is not an excuse, just a statement of fact.
    5. nickname7
      nickname7 27 August 2019 16: 26
      0
      Why is the country catastrophically NOT enough money in the economy?

      The official policy of the Central Bank is to target inflation, sterilization of the money supply and the withdrawal of capital 10-15 yards every month, the Ministry of Finance invests in treasury.

      What are the nuts and co?

      - Colonial administration, they provide economic pumping of the Russian Federation. (This term was used by Britain to the colony of India.)
  8. demo
    demo 23 August 2019 16: 01
    +9
    Thank you for two good jokes and one catchy expression.

    Otherwise, it’s from the category — if we are so smart, why are they so poor?
    I am very ashamed of the fact that our people are businesslike, and sleek, and hardy, and good-natured, and another thousand epithets, sufficient to say - the Russians are the very best.
    But the language does not turn.
    Because in this long list there is no small item - smart.
    We are trying to look for a black cat in a dark room.
    She was not there, she could not be there.
    But we are stubbornly striving to find some specific qualities among the Oreshkins, Grafs, Chemezovs, Rosenbergs, Ragozins, Putin and Medvedev.
    A grand drama unfolds before you and with your direct participation with our country.
    But you all, and I, together with you, continue with persistence worthy of a better application, to believe this vaudeville.
    Sad girls.
    One of the directors of this p.orno action once said.
    1. nickname7
      nickname7 27 August 2019 18: 21
      0
      But we are stubbornly striving to find some specific qualities among the Oreshkins, Grafs, Chemezovs, Rosenbergs, Ragozins, Putin and Medvedev

      But you all, and I, together with you, continue with persistence worthy of a better application, to believe this vaudeville


      The effect of the TV, ( zomboyaschik) tremendously shows understanding.

      A grand drama unfolds before you and with your direct participation with our country

      Unfortunately this is the case.
  9. Normal ok
    Normal ok 23 August 2019 16: 56
    0
    Russia's economy is growing slower than the world - less than 2% against 3

    It’s somehow very shyly indicated ... According to Rosstat: Russia's GDP growth in the II quarter of the 2019 of the year amounted to 2018% relative to the corresponding period of the 0,9 of the year !! All world economists predict a recession.
  10. Kenxnumx
    Kenxnumx 23 August 2019 18: 12
    +4
    When I worked in Lenenergo in the late 90s, the situation there was awful. Defaults, salary delays, repairmen cleaned out garbage dumps in search of previously thrown out but almost complete parts, because there was no money for anything. And then came Andrey Nikolayevich Likhachev. That's never a power engineer. But it was the financial problems that struck for the start. And it worked. I mean, in a modern monitor economy, oddly enough, a banker can effectively manage the economy.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 23 August 2019 19: 49
      +8
      Quote: Ken71
      When I worked in Lenenergo in the late 90s, the situation there was awful.

      at that time I worked in Novosibirskenergo and the situation was similar. We did not have Likhachev, but the situation gradually improved. I think thanks to competent actions, first of all, the Primakov-Maslyukov government and the Central Bank of Gerashchenko. By the way, the regular payment of salaries with us suspiciously coincided with the fact that the hard workers sold almost all the shares that they got when sharing them.
      1. Kenxnumx
        Kenxnumx 23 August 2019 19: 53
        +1
        She recovered very quickly. I switched to another job in 2001 and the situation was already normal
  11. naidas
    naidas 23 August 2019 20: 42
    +1
    And to put even a good banker on the development of the country's economy is cool! It's like asking a poodle to find a squirrel in the taiga. He had already taken place in a completely different field, he chose a model of behavior. Can’t you find Primakov, Maslyukov, Gerashchenko out of 150 million who pulled Russia out of 1998?
    Gerashchenko is a hereditary banker.
    even billionaires, but patriots, only from manufacturing (but by no means raw materials!) companies and holdings began to steer.
    and this is nonsense, for example, the head of the Moscow Metro graduated from MIIT (railway), but continues to optimize equipment and hard workers. Electrician gets less janitor, consumables and materials are not enough.
  12. Berkut24
    Berkut24 23 August 2019 21: 19
    +1
    Very many complain about the export of capital without delving into the structure of export. And there the lion's share is not the money of thieves or dividends of investors (more than half of which are the same thieves), but the return of previously taken loans. At the same time, I do not condone the consciousness of our Government, which is distraught with liberal ideas, but still the problem is not solved by slogans but by a detailed analysis of the current situation, especially in the fundamental issues of building a public service, the concept and place of a state enterprise in the country's economy, and the principles of continuous updating of personnel ..
  13. Anton Dahl
    Anton Dahl 23 August 2019 23: 42
    +6
    And who convinced us that liberal ministers and economists do not know how. The question is different: where are they trying? And then we all talk, talk, and then suddenly we become hostages to cannibals. Kremlin sitters, oligarchs (i.e., rich grabbers), and all other liberals are underestimated. Liberals are not grabbers, and money does not mean everything to them. Rather, they are fighters with world evil, by which they mean Russia. And the liberals are waging this struggle not for life, but for death. Therefore, they methodically destroy its economy (real), history, science, culture, the army, school and in general everything that makes our country Russia. They fight it, not sparing our stomach. And, who knows, maybe his own too. How much money did Kudrin steal as finance minister? In any case, less than it withdrew from Russia to American securities. And if Kudrin and his supporters are faced with the choice of personal enrichment or mortification of Russia, they will most likely choose the latter. And do not be mistaken about their softness. Especially when the liberals hold the keys to the treasury and the White House. We are all soft-bodied towards them. It is we who are embarrassed to defend ourselves, to uphold our legal right to life and the country. And they openly dig a grave for us, and are absolutely not afraid of anything. This is composure! The situation on the internal front is nowhere worse for us, as in the 1941 year. Great country, but nowhere to retreat. The cold pit is right next to us.
    1. Ehanatone
      Ehanatone 25 August 2019 01: 15
      +2
      "And they openly dig a grave for us, and are absolutely not afraid of anything. This is composure!"
      It’s gloomy, of course, apocalyptic, but in the most general sense, exactly so! ...
      Moreover, regardless of the awareness of these necromancy-funerary actions by the liberals themselves! ...
  14. Million
    Million 24 August 2019 08: 42
    +11
    Putin has always had problems with the choice of personnel. Apparently he was a bad scout too ...
    1. Fevralsk. Morev
      Fevralsk. Morev 24 August 2019 19: 54
      +1
      Where did you see GDP grow in the occupied territory?
  15. Earthshaker
    Earthshaker 24 August 2019 14: 54
    +1
    Do you want economic development? Build roads as the Romans did 2000 years ago, in France in the 17th century, in Germany (oh, the horror of Hitler's). Develop the notorious infrastructure, by the hands of citizens, not by strikebreakers. That would be the road to any settlement. So that the guarantor does not laugh "so why do you need a car if there is no road?" Is it not already possible for us to build a durable roadbed, conventionally, in 27 layers, so that it would withstand precipitation and temperature drops without annual repairs for at least 20 years? Of course, this does not bring income here and now, which means it does not develop.
    "There is a ministry, but no development" ©
  16. Fevralsk. Morev
    Fevralsk. Morev 24 August 2019 16: 59
    +2
    Born in 1982 !!!! But when did he manage to get experience? What are the problems with the staff, or someone’s son, a thoroughbred or just a pretty boy?
    1. akunin
      akunin 26 August 2019 11: 56
      +3
      Quote: Fevralsk. Morev
      Born in 1982 !!!! But when did he manage to get experience? What are the problems with the staff, or someone’s son, a thoroughbred or just a pretty boy?

      Mother Nadezhda Nikitina is a professor at Moscow State University of Civil Engineering. Elder brother Vladislav is an investment banker and a senior official of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation
      Laureate of the 2016 Higher School of Economics Golden Hub award in the Graduate Success nomination
      here he whinnied at the top of his lungs - the name of the HSE award was Golden HSE. The founding fathers came up with the idea (they remembered that financial abuses in especially large ones were execution articles in the USSR - "tower")
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  18. nnz226
    nnz226 24 August 2019 22: 17
    +6
    Graduates and graduates of the Higher School of Economics, who praise the fat gaidar who robbed the people, should not be allowed closer than 200 km to the Russian government! Better yet, they should put their "economic theories of the market" into practice in Kolyma. preferably in labor camps with guards and barbed wire fences, and certainly energized !!!
  19. akunin
    akunin 26 August 2019 11: 49
    +1
    Not the one that snapped billions of our dollars in Sberbank in Ukraine after the Maidan, where they safely disappeared for us
    the author means Grefa (as I understand it). I want to remind you that "Sberbank" is primarily a state bank (52.32% from the state). after the Maidan there was a video in which Putin talked with Kostin (VTB 60.9% of the state) and urged him to continue lending to Ukrainian citizens.
    VTB Supervisory Board decided to capitalize the Ukrainian subsidiary bank for 2 billion 580 million hryvnia. This is neither more nor less than 99 million dollars. This is stated in the information materials of the Russian state bank. 24 April 2018 19:20 / Economics

    https://tsargrad.tv/articles/ukrainskie-afery-kostina-vtb-prodolzhaet-finansirovat-kievskuju-huntu_127746
    nevertheless, a short-sighted state policy prevails
  20. Alex66
    Alex66 26 August 2019 14: 35
    +2
    Only a catastrophe will save Russia when all the rats go to the place of their second citizenship and leave us to their fate. Only in this short period of time will we have a chance to revive. In the meantime, the team of GDP and DA is satisfied with everything.
  21. Alex66
    Alex66 26 August 2019 14: 38
    +2
    Quote: Million
    Putin has always had problems with the choice of personnel. Apparently he was a bad scout too ...

    Yes, and there’s no one to shoot, all of his own, like grandfather Krylov, where you won’t put Mutko, he’s everywhere Mutko.
  22. tochila
    tochila 27 August 2019 17: 24
    +1
    Excellent written !!! I especially liked about the poodle and the squirrel in the taiga !!!! And I also remembered Krylov's fable QUARTET - and you, friends, no matter how you sit down, but you are not good at musicians !!!!!
  23. seacap
    seacap 30 August 2019 00: 20
    +1
    Less than 3% stagnation, and stable, enough to talk about growth at 1-2%, growth is over 6%, all that is less than zero compensation, "sucking" 1,5%; 0,7%; 0,1%, makes no sense, the magnitude of the error. The question is obvious and clear throughout the world, growth of less than 5% causes strong concern and a partial change of cabinet, and less than 3, an unambiguous dismissal and change of government, and even with a kick to accelerate, and in China, you can easily stand up to the wall, only us 1,5% is delighted and means an increase in salaries of bureaucrats. Apparently, only our guarantor is not yet clear that a family contract from a diligent graduate of the Yale school and the hubby of the head of the Sorovskaya (FRS) office of the HSE Blue Rita office will die, but they will not allow the development and growth of our country's economy, not for this they purposefully destroyed the education system and education, academic science, leading sectors of the economy and enterprises of the former world power, brought up several generations of "advanced" consumers under the "sensitive" guidance of a redhead, destroying the creative and cultural heritage of the once great people.
  24. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 19 September 2019 00: 22
    0
    Quote: Yrec
    Rampant nepotism, corruption, lack of a personnel lift in positions above the leading specialist. Putin only recently began to understand what he had done and gave to saw Kiriyenko and his "Leaders of Russia"

    Nothing, uniaxies will not let the abyss of experience:

    "Corruption exposures of United Russia"

    In the suburbs, the court seized property from 9 billion rubles. Among the seized are 1700 real estate, 5 billion rubles, as well as 4 cars. The Postrigany case has shown that every year there are fewer untouchables. Including among the representatives of the so-called party of power ...