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Hegemon has mercy: Trump spoke out for Russia's invitation to G7

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There was information that the “world hegemon had mercy” on Russia and decided to invite our country to the meeting of the so-called Big Seven in 2020. This information is provided by the American channel CNN.


Hegemon has mercy: Trump spoke out for Russia's invitation to G7


It is alleged that US President Donald Trump picked up the idea of ​​French colleague Emmanuel Macron that one would think about returning the Russian Federation to G7 while returning the G8 format. Macron expressed this idea during a meeting with Vladimir Putin at Fort Bregancon.

The Russian president made it clear that leaving G8 was not a Russian initiative, and everything that the members of the Big Seven think about Russia’s returning or not returning to this format is deeply their personal affair. In fact, the Russian leader outlined the position that Russia is quite satisfied with the G20 format, which is more representative, even based on the number of participants.

Meanwhile, CNN noted that already at the August G7 summit, which starts three days later in French Biarritz, the issue of the possible return of the Russian Federation to G7 (G8) will be discussed. The American television channel notes that, according to Trump, Russia should be invited to participate in the meeting of this "elite club" already in 2020. At the same time, Trump shifted the responsibility for the exclusion of Russia (traditionally) to his predecessor, Barack Obama.

Trump during a meeting with the Romanian president:

Obama was outplayed by Putin, which is why the then administration insisted on the exclusion of Russia from the G8. I believe that Russia should return (to this format).

Recall that today G7 includes countries such as the United States, Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Canada and Japan. At the same time, it is already obvious to many that this format has long been outdated, if only because some of these countries cannot be called “large” today either territorially, economically or militarily.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 21 August 2019 07: 31
    +20
    But IT is necessary for us? However, politics is a dirty thing .. Yes, and it is necessary to defend one's point of view on the international scene.
    1. anjey
      anjey 21 August 2019 07: 36
      +10
      The "Western world" is losing leverage on Russia, so they turn on the reverse gear, so that they can at least have influence and control ....
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 21 August 2019 08: 36
        0
        Quote: anjey
        The Western world "is losing leverage on Russia, so they turn on the reverse gear

        There is probably some new game again, and not reverse gear. Here they write, Trump supported Macron's idea of ​​Russia's participation in the GXNUMX, but the Democrats and the media would have eaten him with giblets and hung all the "devils" on him.
        1. Sky strike fighter
          Sky strike fighter 21 August 2019 08: 47
          +9
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: anjey
          The Western world "is losing leverage on Russia, so they turn on the reverse gear

          There is probably some new game again, and not reverse gear. Here they write, Trump supported Macron's idea of ​​Russia's participation in the GXNUMX, but the Democrats and the media would have eaten him with giblets and hung all the "devils" on him.

          In no case do not agree. It will be a shame if we agreed to return to this pro-American clique after all that was. The authority of the state will drop significantly. It will look like Washington trained us and we are backtracking on its terms. And then you can start restructuring 2.0. Here is the signal we will give. This offer we capitulate in essence. But what we need this pro-American G-8, what will it give us? Subordinate position?
          1. ccsr
            ccsr 21 August 2019 11: 28
            +2
            Quote: Sky Strike fighter
            In no case do not agree. It will be a shame if we agreed to return to this pro-American clique after all that was.

            It’s not so much a matter of shame (the USSR did not join the League of Nations for a long time, then it did, then it was expelled, and then it was the creator of the UN), but that the seven itself is not something that determines the economy of the whole world, and therefore hanging out there is no longer so important for Russia, because there is a "twenty". Considering the current crazy US president, this also becomes dangerous, because it is not clear what he can throw out the hypothetical GXNUMX at the summit, and therefore we need to stay away from this hop-company.
            1. Amin_vivec
              Amin_vivec 21 August 2019 22: 05
              +1
              On the contrary, it is necessary to agree - as an arena for the G8 summit to offer for example the Livadia Palace in Yalta ... in the Crimea)))))))
              But seriously - even without 8s, almost all the turns in Sochi go to the carpet ...
              1. ccsr
                ccsr 22 August 2019 09: 18
                0
                Quote: Amin_Vivec
                On the contrary, it is necessary to agree - as an arena for the G8 summit to offer for example the Livadia Palace in Yalta ... in the Crimea)))))))

                They won’t go for it - it will look too defiant.
    2. svp67
      svp67 21 August 2019 07: 40
      +2
      Quote: 210ox
      And IT we need?
      I do not know. Of course, such a meeting, on the one hand, can turn into an attempt to "publicly flog" Russia, and maybe vice versa. With the policy pursued by Trump, the United States can also "flog".
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 21 August 2019 08: 04
        +13
        There was information that the “world hegemon had mercy” on Russia and decided to invite our country to a meeting of the so-called Big Seven in 2020.

        I don’t know right - countries of the Big Six sounded the corresponding epithet ...
      2. vlad106
        vlad106 21 August 2019 10: 55
        +2
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: 210ox
        And IT we need?
        I do not know. Of course, such a meeting, on the one hand, can turn into an attempt to "publicly flog" Russia, and maybe vice versa. With the policy pursued by Trump, the United States can also "flog".

        Self-esteem must take place
    3. Civil
      Civil 21 August 2019 08: 19
      +4
      Trump gave the back, Putin answered well "we are waiting for everyone in Moscow, no problem" laughing
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 21 August 2019 08: 40
        0
        Quote: Civil
        Trump gave the back

        Trump is not the man to "give back", he is like our bay from the 1st Guards Squadron litit holding the bit, only the foam flies. And suddenly he switched to a light trot. Doubtful and alarming.
      2. AUL
        AUL 21 August 2019 08: 45
        +4
        The Russian president made it clear that the exit from the G8 was not a Russian initiative, and everything that the members of the Big Seven think about the return or non-return to this format of Russia is deeply their personal affair.
        Well done, he answered correctly! Nefig break into this club "USA and its six", twenty is much more solid!
      3. kit88
        kit88 21 August 2019 10: 29
        +6
        And why do we need the same Canada in Moscow. What to discuss with her? The 'occupation' of Crimea?
        No, this is no longer the Big Seven, but to hell that, even the US vassals club does not pull.
        And without the Russian Federation and China, any meeting cannot be called an institution that decides global issues.
        Karoche, let them go through the forest.
    4. iouris
      iouris 21 August 2019 13: 58
      0
      Quote: 210ox
      And IT we need?

      We do not need it. But we were not asked when they rushed to the WTO.
  2. Andrey Chistyakov
    Andrey Chistyakov 21 August 2019 07: 34
    +6
    Here is "happiness" then ...
  3. Thrifty
    Thrifty 21 August 2019 07: 34
    +7
    They are trying to throw the bone of Russia.
    Obviously, in exchange for "mercy" they will demand the withdrawal of troops from Syria, the return of the Crimea to the dill, and smoked to the Japs! Only it does not suit us again in this the US mongrel began to appear! Russia will manage without such "mercy"!
    1. Andrey Chistyakov
      Andrey Chistyakov 21 August 2019 07: 43
      +2
      Quote: Thrifty
      They are trying to throw the bone of Russia.
      Obviously, in exchange for "mercy" they will demand the withdrawal of troops from Syria, the return of the Crimea to the dill, and smoked to the Japs! Only it does not suit us again in this the US mongrel began to appear! Russia will manage without such "mercy"!

      Trump should have been given the role in the film "Shadows disappear at noon" performed by B. Novikov. Buy-sell character ..
    2. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 21 August 2019 08: 08
      +4
      The composition of Seven 1 (USA) + (and its UK, France, Germany, Italy, especially Canada and Japan controlled by it) against 1-RF.

      Here, through the "G", the USA solve their problems ... and only their own
      Does Russia need this ??
      The Russian authorities want to bring their "I" to the West. So they have known it for a long time and they know what. how and why they do it against Russia

      Without China Any "G" ... nothing - a gathering of Presidents in front of cameras .. And China is not steaming ..
      It would be clear. If they were going to the next meeting in Moscow .. as previously planned. But. . threw ...
      And so they turn Russia into a call girl
      1. To be or not to be
        To be or not to be 21 August 2019 13: 37
        0
        "Head of the International Committee of the Federation Council of the Russian Federation Konstantin Kosachev.

        “In my opinion, Russia's return to the GXNUMX would make sense only if the seven versus one trap could be avoided. And for this it is necessary to look at the situation more broadly. What if we propose to think about a more decisive modernization of this format by also joining our Chinese and Indian partners? "Such a format will avoid the" seven against one trap. "

        This format avoids the “seven versus one trap”.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 21 August 2019 08: 43
      0
      Quote: Thrifty
      Obviously, in exchange for "mercy"

      And brainwash about leaving the INF.
    4. Ural-4320
      Ural-4320 21 August 2019 10: 33
      +2
      They call in G8 not to play politics, but to solve economic problems. The current model of the world economy has outlived itself in smoke. Where has it been seen that the question of simply giving people money for life was decided? And in Switzerland, even a referendum was held on this topic. Consumerism no longer gives the producers the same profit as before, and in addition, the games with the transfer of production to places "more free" played a cruel joke. As a result, we have countries where there is work and countries where people live on social services, do not work, get fat, go crazy in their confidence "I have the right", etc.
      What will a person living on social services buy something new with? He has no money, he only has to eat. Namely, such layers follow the commandment "be fruitful and multiply." As a result, the entire current G7 has a minimum of able-bodied population and a maximum of freeloaders.
      And here comes the insight that there is nowhere without Russia. Even if we remain a "regional gas station", it will not become much easier in G7. And they need to solve this economic problem now, because the next crisis (2008, 2014) may still put a bunch of enterprises in the coffin. And Russia solves its economic problems: there is no growth (there is on paper), people are on credit in the smoke, the financial sector cuts the loot, but is reluctant to invest it in the country's development, small business is stifled by big business. And this is just the tip of the iceberg.
  4. rocket757
    rocket757 21 August 2019 07: 35
    0
    In general, it’s not interesting ... just see how it will be.
  5. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 21 August 2019 07: 37
    +3
    it was the same with the WTO
  6. svp67
    svp67 21 August 2019 07: 38
    +1
    This information is provided by the American channel CNN.
    It’s clear that it’s not Fox News. The "democrats" need to add a "portion of gasoline" to the "anti-Trump" "fire" ... Until 2020, they still have to live, but the speed with which Mr. Trump changes his "final decisions", I'm afraid that by this time he can completely change this format to G-2 (USA-UK) or change the list of his "sixes" in the G-7
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 21 August 2019 07: 40
    +2
    What is the matter with them? The Frenchman is stroking his knee, the American is hinting ... How can it be that nothing can be really decided without GDP? So maybe well him? Let someone else hold a whipping boy ... Yes, and the format is outdated. There is no China. Why Italy and Canada. Take 8 countries in terms of GDP (or better, in terms of industrial production) ... And then where will the UK be?
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 21 August 2019 08: 09
      +4
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      What is the matter with them? Frenchman stroking knee, American hints ...

      A self-respecting man should not let anyone stroke his knee, look for dandruff on his jacket, throw bread and salt on the path and fight in Kondrashka at official receptions ...
      And he can take hints only from beautiful women.
      hi
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 21 August 2019 08: 46
        0
        Quote: ROSS 42
        And he can take hints only from beautiful women

        No, all the troubles are due to women, especially beautiful ones.
  8. Alexzn
    Alexzn 21 August 2019 07: 45
    -4
    At the same time, it is already obvious to many that this format has long been outdated, if only because some of these countries cannot be called “large” today either territorially, economically or militarily.
    =====
    It’s interesting ... Of the criteria listed, perhaps only territorially ... In economic and military terms, all of these countries occupy leading positions, and when you consider that 6 out of 7 are in NATO, the thesis becomes simply silly.
    Amorphous BRICS is an important organization, but the seven are not. Cheered up.
  9. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 21 August 2019 07: 45
    +6
    How strange ... 5 years isolated, on the sixth tired? But where is principle and solidarity? So the Russian Federation will completely confuse the coast.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 21 August 2019 08: 12
      0
      Quote: Zaurbek
      So the Russian Federation will completely confuse the coast.

      Wait! They will also declare that Crimea was under the occupation of Ukraine and Russia has every right to its original territories ... When the rooster is fried and brought to the ass, they can still beguiled ... lol
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 21 August 2019 08: 47
      +1
      Quote: Zaurbek
      It's strange ... 5 years isolated

      Oh twist twist the Anglo-Saxons!
  10. Amateur
    Amateur 21 August 2019 07: 45
    0
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    And the format is outdated. There is no China. Why Italy and Canada. Take 8 countries in terms of GDP (or better, in terms of industrial production) ... And then where will the UK be?

    Then just get Twenty. No 8 is needed. Because the main issue is finances, they ALWAYS discussed without Russia. negative
  11. Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 21 August 2019 07: 46
    +1
    You can return (my personal opinion) if they don’t ask for money as for returning to PACE))), but at the same time constantly remind that there are 20, from which there is more benefit than from "fans" and lobbyists of the Anglo- the Saxon model of the world order.
  12. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 21 August 2019 07: 47
    +2
    At the same time, it is already obvious to many that this format has long been outdated, if only because some of these countries cannot be called “large” today either territorially, economically or militarily.
    It's time to educate. Send them a forum. If it is beneficial for us with the presence of the PRC, then suggest revising it. Throw out England, enter China and India.
    In fact, the Russian leader outlined the position that Russia is quite happy with the G20 format, which is more representative, even based on the number of participants.
    Well, maybe this is a game.
  13. Vadim T.
    Vadim T. 21 August 2019 07: 47
    +2
    Already in PACE returned. What came of this?
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 21 August 2019 07: 49
      +3
      For me, it’s a mystery why PACE is needed and why the Russian Federation is there. My opinion is that someone likes to go on a business trip to Belgium.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 21 August 2019 08: 48
      +1
      Quote: Vadim T.
      Already in PACE returned. What came of this?

      Immediately slop began to water.
  14. sleeve
    sleeve 21 August 2019 07: 52
    0
    How could one refuse diplomatically like this?
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  15. greenegro
    greenegro 21 August 2019 07: 55
    +1
    Putin's tale - come to us .. Cutting))
  16. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 21 August 2019 08: 13
    0
    Do we need this? And if necessary, then why? Trump communicates well with the public on Twitter. I think ours could have mastered and defended in no worse way - there would have been a desire. After all, you need to strain for this - it is not as pleasant as playing a diver.
  17. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 21 August 2019 08: 28
    +2
    I’m waiting for an article by Kamenev, where he will sort out how Putin once again outplayed everyone in the next, geopolitical chess game wassat
  18. prior
    prior 21 August 2019 08: 29
    0
    A deal, so a deal.
    G7 officially recognizes Crimea as Russian - Russia joins G7.
    And then, as a consequence, the return of diplomatic property and the lifting of sanctions related to Ukraine.
  19. Guards turn
    Guards turn 21 August 2019 08: 38
    -1
    Samuel Marshak
    "Cat's house" ... You're out of your mind, goat, -
    You hit the top ten aces!
    What are you grumbling stupid?
    I hit a dozen tambourines.
    Tambourines - trump cards with us
    Tambourines were last time,
    And now our trump card is baptism!
    Get lost with them!
    I'm tired of the game
    Yes, and it's time to sleep!
    Today I’m tired !. .
    No, let's start the game again!
    Who will stay of us
    Fools this time?
    And without cards, I know that!
    You are quiet !. . Gimme it!
    The beard of your duty
    Yes, the horns did not grow.
    I have twice as long -
    I will cope with you vividly ...
  20. cniza
    cniza 21 August 2019 08: 40
    +2
    It is unequivocally said - if you want to come to Russia, we will organize it for you ... in 20, the seven will gather in the USA - we have nothing to do there.
  21. 1536
    1536 21 August 2019 08: 56
    0
    It is very similar to an offer to surrender at the "mercy of the victor", as if the besieged fortress ran out of food, gunpowder, and the wells with drinking water are completely infected with dead rats.
    Meanwhile, the United States behaves in a completely gendarme manner, and in the worst traditions of gendarme control over the human society of the entire planet Earth, i.e. "keep and not let go". In the meantime, you can buy Greenland, as if it were buying a piece of land from a drunken farmer, and Russia can be tied up hand and foot and thrown, probably, in the If castle (under the control of Comrade Macron) for 17 years, promising and access to new technologies of old production and loans with paper money from the United States and much more. The G7 format is outdated, let alone the G8.
  22. vladcub
    vladcub 21 August 2019 09: 22
    +1
    Obama was outplayed by Putin, which is why the then administration insisted on the exclusion of Russia "presented the following picture: Putin and Obama sat down to play cards, while Obama lost and was offended.
    But I don’t know what they played at Point or Piggy? Once upon a time in childhood we adored: "piggy"
  23. evgen1221
    evgen1221 21 August 2019 09: 49
    0
    But what for do we need them-we and in our forest are not bad, but I want to take these G7-8, I want to get out-what for. It is like the west, it wants to make a split in friendship with China.
  24. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 21 August 2019 09: 51
    0
    "World hegemon has mercy"
    Why should we fall on our knees out of gratitude and sing the Trump health resort? We did not lose much without the G-7, feeling great in the G-20, where almost everyone was in a hurry to at least talk to VVP on the go. First, they try to "isolate" Russia by pushing it out of various international get-togethers, then realizing that without it (Russia), somehow, things don't go quite like that, they begin to call back.
  25. spectr
    spectr 21 August 2019 10: 18
    0
    Yes, not a fig did not have mercy. They will demand something on US conditions (for example, the resumption of the INF Treaty). As recent events show, if you drip on your brains for a long time, you can persuade. An example is the Lavrov on the Kuril Islands. He began with the words that the transfer of the islands is not acceptable, and has already moved on to readiness to consider the transfer of the islands.
    The main thing is to be able to offer something that is very valuable in the opinion of the opponent, even if in fact it is not worth a dime. I will not be surprised if the country starts to "push" to the G8.
    And if you look at the number of cases related to economic crimes, when millions and billions are being stolen, you get the impression that the current government is coming down and everyone is trying to snatch their piece while there is time.
  26. Cry
    Cry 21 August 2019 10: 19
    0
    Silly, pretty silly invitation ..
  27. New Year day
    New Year day 21 August 2019 11: 06
    +2
    And what is the difference between us G 7 or 8? Again on the same rake? Or show off more than reason?
    1. iouris
      iouris 21 August 2019 14: 00
      +1
      Quote: Silvestr
      And what is the difference between us G 7 or 8?

      To get into the G8 you need to step on seven rakes.
      I remember the anecdote about Vasily Ivanych and Chingachguk, in which Chingachguk says to Vasil Ivanych: "Only a pale-faced man could step on a rake twice."
  28. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 21 August 2019 14: 05
    +1
    G-7 or 8 are just big show-offs of several states, like in clubs an interest club, nothing more. Well, they will accept Russia and what will change? .....
    1. vlad106
      vlad106 21 August 2019 17: 02
      0
      Quote: Alexey-74
      G-7 or 8 are just big show-offs of several states, like in clubs an interest club, nothing more. Well, they will accept Russia and what will change? .....

      contributions will probably have to be paid as usual
  29. NF68
    NF68 21 August 2019 15: 36
    0
    As a gift from a master's shoulder coat.
  30. aleksandaravin
    aleksandaravin 21 August 2019 17: 37
    0
    They needed us, really against the Chinese?
  31. Mixanchik
    Mixanchik 21 August 2019 17: 42
    -2
    And where are you going to gentlemen? The persecution and the attempt to boycott Russia have failed!
    They hoped that Russia would be closed by a curtain and then you would calmly rob the world? Not attacked .. Without Russia, you will not be able to solve anything in world politics.
    Russia has proved this to the whole world that you cannot bring us to our knees with your provocations and threats, and many countries of the world (in our example) have begun to resist and try to defend themselves against you "so-called Western democracy" ...
    You will only have to talk with Russia on equal terms .. And perhaps Russia will also set the game conditions for you [G8. We are already focused! soldier
  32. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 21 August 2019 20: 49
    0
    "There is information that" the world hegemon has mercy "over Russia and decided to invite our country to the meeting of the so-called Big Seven in 2020."
    This must be taken immediately. In chains ... For your own purposes ... But we don’t have to destroy your goals.
  33. PPD
    PPD 21 August 2019 21: 08
    0
    Ha Ha !!!!!!!
    Barin graciously deign deign! 1111111111 laughing
    Our dear, (I pretend to be excited).
    Lord, HOW have I lived these years without Ento!
    At last
    R.S.- for every echo is sarcasm. Well, just in case .... wassat