Learning the Ukrainian military: from onuchi to harmonata

Rich and powerful Ukrainian mov. And it doesn’t matter that there are clearly not enough words in it that could adequately describe certain technological means, including armaments and models of military equipment - modern alternative Ukrainian linguists are working to create new words about the meaning of which (and a number of old, too), it so happened, does not even know the guarantor of the Ukrainian constitution - the country's president.

Ukrainian soldier

The case in world practice is certainly unique: more than half of the country's population admits that they speak Russian that they do not always understand the Ukrainian language, but, working out Western grants with zeal worthy of another application, those same linguists continue to persistently plant a language whose writing engaged literally in real time.

In this short story, “Military Review”, by virtue of its main theme, invites the reader to get acquainted with military terminology, which the neighbor and “partner” will Ukrainianize. Even a superficial acquaintance with these terms is already capable of giving an idea that “in places” the Ukrainian mov is trying to oppose the Russian language with all its might.

So, a brief military Ukrainian-Russian phrasebook - those who wish, we teach ... Otherwise, Ukrainian experts always blame the talk shows on federal channels - no, they say, there are Ukrainian schools in Russia. How not? And what about "VO"?

Winischuvach. It might seem that this is from lovers of red semisweet, but no ... Winischuvach (vynyshchuvach) is a fighter.
Upstart F-35 - does it sound? - It sounds!

Bomber (bomber) - respectively, a bomber.

Garmata is a cannon. Accordingly, "Armata" Almaty "- you understand ... And it also sounds!

P_vodny Choven - a submarine. Therefore, the Ukrainian AFC is by no means a reason to wish health after sneezing, but the nuclear submarine is quite a nuclear submarine.

Bagnet is a bayonet.

Onucha is a footcloth.

Krizovy chobit (rat chobit) - tarpaulin boot.

The whole “Russia” is already familiar with the term “cooler” - after the well-known promises of Mr. Yatsenyuk. Arseny's forehead is still safe and sound - by the way.
Trigger trigger - trigger.

Ukrainian soldier

Year-old (annual) - sentry. In the Same Series: Vartovy (vartovy) - guard and rozvidny (rozvidny) - distributing.
Hence the dialogue at the Ukrainian post:

Hey yde? - Rosvidny zі zmіnoyu. - Rosvidny to me, інші на місці.

It’s soundful, fashionable, and unpronounceable - only months of training ... The main thing is to remember that above all this there are team-mates who have an attack from the south-north and overpower - in the order of things.

Comments

[Honest Citizen]

Winischuvach. It might seem that this is from lovers of red semisweet, but no ... Winischuvach (vynyshchuvach) is a fighter.
Upstart F-35 - does it sound? - It sounds!

Bomber (bomber) - respectively, a bomber.

I could not read further - the homeric laughter interferes.

The main thing is to remember that above all these are the command of the team, who have an offensive from the south-north and surrender - in the order of things.

But "komandavachi" - completely killed.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

You laugh early .. :-)
And the words ,, spilnota ,,, do you know how to translate? ..
Society, public. :-)
I heard, neighing to tears :-)

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

Andrey Nikolaevich (Andrey. Nikolaevich) Today, 19:04 New

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You laugh early .. :-)
And the words ,, spilnota ,,, do you know how to translate ?.

In Soviet times, there was such a comic translation of the phrase "the dump truck carried the stools" - "self-operative pidsrachniki poper".
Suddenly, the compilers of the dictionary come in handy?

[tol100v]

Quote: Captain Pushkin

Suddenly, the compilers of the dictionary come in handy?

One phrase will soon come in handy for the compilers: "Forgive the traitors!"

[210ox]

"Bandera, kaput". That's all, that would be enough for me.

[Kazbek]

Piyizd was late - the train was late. Please do not ban! This one is true!

[January]

Tse nonsense. The pulls will be latched :))

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Kazbek

Piyizd was late - the train was late. Please do not ban! This one is true!

It is not true. The train is a pull.
Therefore - a pull made up, a pull made for ten hvylyn.

[ltc22A]

And what is the Ukrainian word for "priests blowing flies from the windows"?

[cradle]

"drinking zhmukhival z vison flies" something like that

[self-propelled]

yeah, and look for a translation of words like tie, kettle, condom...
and still want respect for Russian culture, language ?! but respect for other cultures, languages? bash on bash

[Xnumx vis]

I agree one hundred percent! Respecting a foreign language, respect your culture! ..Although there are funny phrases in the Ukrainian language ... - "Shanovna are looking at that chitochi ..." .. Translation - "Dear viewers and readers .." Or another phrase - "the little girl got fucked up." .. Translation - The girl was late ... There is a word "fuck" ... - Count it up!

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: 30 vis

Translation - "Dear viewers and readers .." Or another phrase - "the maiden got fucked up

Wrong. The divine has withdrawn. The girl was late.

[Xnumx vis]

My mistake does not change the essence of the phrase ..

[anjey]

A tie is a little bed, a poker is a kotsyuga, a watermelon is a kovun, as many Ukrainians remember, at the end of the 80s, at a military school, they boasted to each other who is more Ukrainian and knows their language, this not-so-healthy nationalism has long been sitting in their heads . and they took good advantage of forces from outside ..

[self-propelled]

knowledge of the native language (dialect ...) is neither nationalism - it is respect for the great-grandfathers and the land where he was born.
but ridicule over incomprehensible words - at least - disrespect for another nationality, at most - nationalism (depending on where you look)

[Honest Citizen]

here are ridicule over incomprehensible words

you didn’t mix anything up? incomprehensible words are one thing, and newly invented ones are quite another. Read the entire article first.

[self-propelled]

made-up words? which ones?
I'd like to hear the opinion of a linguist (as I understand, deeply fluent in Ukrainian)
it’s you (by the way, a personal appeal is written with a capital letter. although you, the linguists, know better) apparently you are confusing something

[O. Bender]

Even in the XNUMXs and later, when they were in Ukraine, on TV you could hear such new words as invented HEARED! I was shocked! For all that, I graduated from a Ukrainian school where all subjects were taught in Ukrainian and I knew ukrmova Pts okay. And now the question is what is HEARING?

[self-propelled]

add here also, almost equal in meaning, the words gunthrycoptera-helicopteropter-vertoglot ... a hundred years ago such letter combinations could not exist. but time goes on, progress does not stand still, new concepts and terms appear. it is logical that in every language there appear words denoting this new
by the way, right HEARINGВKA - a handset, if that

[O. Bender]

I agree, but I don’t remember exactly what the rumor or the HEARING AID is anymore. It was also fun to watch Mexican TV shows on TV. The rzhach was provided.

[PCF]

rumors are Polish headphones, and it’s natural that the word itself originated in the Ukrainian language. Like the others - farba (German paint), lichtar (German lamp) and much more honestly stitched here and there and embedded in mov (Schaub is not Yak at Muscovites).
I was surprised that they have a "brow", but they don't know "tongue and mouth", they are tyryat strangely and selectively

[Borz]

And also the words taken by the creators of this mov-gvara in German. Dah-roof (German-daha), fah, fahivets specialty, specialist (German-fahhe). Avtivka-car (the word was entered into use by the writer I. Franko)

[ltc22A]

And the word Maidan, beloved by Ukrainians, is Turkish maidan (square)

[Piramidon]

Quote: O. Bender

It was also fun to watch Mexican TV shows on TV. Rzhach was provided.

I watched the old film "Member of the Government" in French. This is cool. Such a peasant lies in the hut on the stove and - "bonjour", "merci", "orevoir" ...

[Vadim T.]

I'll add my own five kopecks. There really is a "mobile" problem. And it consists in the fact that the newly-minted reformers are constantly "improving" the Ukrainian language. Out of good intentions, of course. They want the best, but it turns out, as always. I will try to explain. After gaining independence, a huge number of words of Polish and Canadian origin appeared in mov. For example, the same gyntokryl replaced the word "helicopter" (helicopter), the flyer replaced the airfield, etc. All these words, I repeat, come from the Canadian diaspora, which greatly influences life in Ukraine. No sooner had the Ukrainians got used to these innovations than just a couple of months ago, the Cabinet of Ministers approved new spelling rules. The list of changes is almost 300 pages long !!! The worst thing is that this nonsense will now have to be taught to children in order to be tested in grade 11. Admire some "pearls": Feodosia is now Teodosia, the fleet is smoldering, the federation is tederation, Putin is Pufin, etc. This newspeak is already so absurd that Ukrainians themselves speak of it with humor. Here is a link to the video. Look to cheer you up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJcodQoYX2s

[ananias mudishev]

Osh with

Quote: self-propelled

add here also, almost equal in meaning, the words gunthrycoptera-helicopteropter-vertoglot ... a hundred years ago such letter combinations could not exist. but time goes on, progress does not stand still, new concepts and terms appear. it is logical that in every language there appear words denoting this new
by the way, right HEARINGВKA - a handset, if that

[Borz]

Rumor-telephone receiver. In general, there are a lot of pearls in the Move. "You maesh the walkie-talkie" - you are right, "well, the dreadful" - well, come on faster, etc.

[ananias mudishev]

In stupid Ukraine (I have a wife from Volyn), a stethoscope is called a hearing aid

[Waddimm]

Quote: self-propelled

You (by the way, personal appeal is capitalized

It depends on the degree of respect for the person to whom you write.
In general, in various foreign languages ​​there are many words and phrases that sound funny to the hearing of a Russian person, and if in the Ukrainian language they (these ridiculously pronounced) words are constantly thought up and introduced into everyday life and at the same time cause homeric laughter, then why should someone hold back laugh?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Waddimm

Quote: self-propelled

You (by the way, personal appeal is capitalized

It depends on the degree of respect for the person to whom you write.
In general, in various foreign languages ​​there are many words and phrases that sound funny to the hearing of a Russian person, and if in the Ukrainian language they (these ridiculously pronounced) words are constantly thought up and introduced into everyday life and at the same time cause homeric laughter, then why should someone hold back laugh?

No, you are a pronoun, i.e. in the place of the name, which is capitalized.
A Russian peasant from the Urals came to Belarus. He did not laugh at some words of the Belarusian language, but treated him with due respect. As a result, he created a lot of amazingly beautiful sounding and lyric songs based on folk songs.
V. Muliavin is remembered and loved in Belarus.
And if a laughter would come instead? How would Belarusians relate to him? That's right - with contempt, and someone with hatred.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SUOsP7jRCs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrqFVMu0piw
And many others. Do not be lazy, listen.

[Waddimm]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

No, you are a pronoun, i.e. in the place of the name, which is capitalized.

I'll reveal a little secret. In Russian, besides the pronoun "you", there are many more pronouns. According to your logic, should they also be written with a capital letter?
Admit that you learned the Russian language optionally, and you yourself invented this rule!
Well, about respect / disrespect for a foreign language, those who are worthy of respect are respected!

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Waddimm

Well, about respect / disrespect for a foreign language, those who are worthy of respect are respected!

And what does the language have to do with it. Yes, you can and should not respect the villain, but what does language have to do with it?
Among us Russians there are also many villains, to me what, stop loving and respecting our language.
And about pronouns. Come on, turn to me with another ("there are many") pronouns. I'd love to see it. When you address a stranger (in writing), you should write a pronoun with a capital letter 1. As a sign of respect and 2. emphasize that you are addressing him, and not a group of people.
For example - you, Mr. Waddimm, and you, gentlemen, commentators ....

[Waddimm]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

You must capitalize the pronoun

No, it should not, because there is no such rule in Russian. There is such an optional and non-standardized tradition. It can be used at your request, but you can not use it. You turn to one or several people clearly from the context and does not require special notation.

[Waddimm]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

what does the language have to do with it. Yes, you can and should not respect the villain, but what does language have to do with it?

Language is a means of communication and the relation to its speakers is projected onto it. The emotions experienced, when listening to speech in a foreign language, are purely individual and are the personal affair of everyone. Someone listens with pleasure, someone with other emotions. Tell the prisoners of Auschwitz about the great language of Goethe. What would they answer if they could?

[Stroi76]

Self-propelled gun, thank you for the comment. I, as it seems to me, know Russian better than some commentators (I read and communicate a lot in Russian). And the Ukrainian language is my native language, from the cradle. Yes, there are bizarre words in it, but in every language there are such. Comments are disappointing, and it further widens the gap between the once fraternal peoples.

[Mcar]

Quote: Stroi76

Yes, there are bizarre words in it, but in every language there are such. Comments are disappointing, and it further widens the gap between the once fraternal peoples.

Comments widen the chasm? And not the actions of excessively Ukrainian Ukrainians?

If we talk only about the language / language, then, say, any work of Taras Shevchenko in the language is understandable without translation, and the editorial of any Ukrainian newspaper without a dictionary can no longer be made out. Not otherwise, the "commentators" from the VO screwed up.

And then, a strange kind of situation turns out: to the "Muscovites" who all the way supported and even cultivated "Ukrainianness" - hatred, and to the Poles, who did not consider Ukrainians as people - love. Check it out for yourself if you don't know how many allegedly Ukrainian words are actually Polish (and for some reason no one in Ukraine is concerned about such an attempt on independence): https://pandia.ru/text/77/275/20176.php

[ananias mudishev]

I have a wife from Volyn, and a godfather from Lugansk, I assure you that no one in Hohland clearly knows no one. Open the Ukrainian interpreter and you will find that you do not know the Ukrainian language

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Honest Citizen

here are ridicule over incomprehensible words

you didn’t mix anything up? incomprehensible words are one thing, and newly invented ones are quite another. Read the entire article first.

Not a single word mentioned in the article is newly invented.

[anjey]

Quote: self-propelled

knowledge of the native language (dialect ...) is neither nationalism

I'm not talking about knowing the language, but about who is the right Ukrainian and who is wrong, the one who didn’t know exactly the western dialect of Mova and this split was maintained for a long time ....

[113262a]

And figs! And he served and is working with Ukrainian-speaking citizens. The meanings of the words crib, ratchet, raschat, obtsenky, terpug-almost no one could explain Nobody calls him a tie, window leaf, vise, pliers, and file. In addition to the stubborn Farion and how it is there, the writers of the nursery ...

[SamVI68]

but what kind of nonsense do you say? all the more so MOTHER, not a crib. I studied Ukrainian at school. teaching there was in Russian. and I know these words. studied, by the way, in the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. and I'm not bothering Farion. and appreciation is not a tick.

[113262a]

So, panet, emergency-HUMP! And for OTSENKI-oblapmaytesya-ticks they are! Kolya to you, for the decibal!

[Kazbek]

How can you not laugh at the word "pizdno" - it's late, when in the Ukrainian language, and practically in all Slavic languages, a five-letter word means what it means! And how can you mock your people like that, forcing them to speak an abusive language !? There are a dozen more similar words and their derivatives, sustained in the same vein! It seems that the Swedes or Austrians, who invented their language there, did it on purpose, as a mockery !!!

[SamVI68]

it’s your current so the word is so heard. all the more so the word you are talking about is not Russian. from the word zovsim. but who swedes or austrians came up with the language isho question. and hto did you come up with the Poles and Belarusians, Germans and British?

[113262a]

A ce-schob slept sweetly! Live, Ukraine, beautiful and strong, In the Union of Radiance you know. Mіzh rіvnimi rіvna, mіzh vіlnimi vіlna, Pіd the son of freedom, as a flower rozvіla. Glory to the Union of Radyansky, glory! Glory to Vіtchizhnі on віки-віків! Live in Ukraine, a power of Radyansk, in the United Motherland! Wait for us at the battles for the share of the people of Buv with another and brother of the Russian people, Us Lenin with an overwhelming campaign P_d ensign Zhovtnya to svitlich visot. Glory to the Union of Radyansky, glory! Glory to Vіtchizhnі on віки-віків! Live in Ukraine, a power of Radyansk, in the United Motherland! We praise the work of the Fatherland for the can, Utverdzhim the truth of immortal ideas. The light of communism is greater than Maybutne. We Lenin party is wisely leading. Glory to the Union of Radyansky, glory! Glory to Vіtchizhnі on віки-віків! Live in Ukraine, a power of Radyansk, in the United Motherland! http://song5.ru

[svp67]

Quote: 113262

A ce-schob slept sweetly!

you have to listen to grandfather Panas: "Good evening to you little kids, any lads, girls ..."

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Kazbek

How can you not laugh at the word "pizdno" - it's too late, when in the Ukrainian language, and

There is no such word in the Ukrainian language. There is a word - "PIZNO".
I have not studied Ukrainian, but even I know that in the Ukrainian language, unlike Russian, words are spelled the way they sound.

[Ivan Z]

Not "late", but "pizno" - literate, teach your own!

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

"... to Ukrainian means to abandon one's past, to be ashamed of belonging to the Russian people, even the names" Rus "," Russian ", to abandon the legends of history, carefully erase all common Russian peculiar features and try to imitate the regional" Ukrainian "identity. 

Ukraine is a retreat from the centuries-old, with all the branches of the Russian people and the national genius of a developed language and culture, self-transformation into an intertribal obnosov, to a wipe of either Polish or German boots: idolatry before the region, servility before the Polish-Jewish-German socialists, renunciation of the original principles their people, from historical self-awareness, a departure from church-social traditions. 

Ukraine is an ailment that even the strongest national organism can undermine, and there is no condemnation that would be enough for this voluntary self-destruction! "

From the work "The main foundations of the Russian people" Galician publicist, public figure and historian Osip Monchalovsky (1904). And you say - "respect for great-grandfathers and the land ...".

[Military Builder]

in a military school, boasted of each other, who is more Ukrainian and knows his mov

it was like that, 3 Ukrainians studied with me in a platoon, from Ternopol, Zhytomyr and Kirovogradskaya, there were normal guys, Kirovogradsky didn’t even speak at his own word, and the Westerners called him Moskalyk (I heard several times in the first year).

PS. I remember (I guarantee that it is 100% correct, I won’t): Go ahead. Strunko. Krokom rouge (-sh). - Come on. Attention. Step march.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: anjey

A tie is a little bed, a poker is a kotsyuga, a watermelon is a kovun, as many Ukrainians remember, at the end of the 80s, at a military school, they boasted to each other who is more Ukrainian and knows their language, this not-so-healthy nationalism has long been sitting in their heads . and they took good advantage of forces from outside ..

If you compete with someone in the knowledge of the Russian language, this will mean that you are trying to find out with him which of you is "russie" and knows the native language better. And will this mean that you have an unhealthy nationalism in your head?

[anjey]

The fact is, I repeat once again that it was in Ukraine, even during the Soviet Union, that this clarification was of the nationalism color, having not made a fuss about you — you are not a real Ukrainian, you are an inferior Muscovite, so no need, the roots of the split in Ukraine have been germinated for a long time. ...

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: anjey

The fact is, I repeat once again that it was in Ukraine, even during the Soviet Union, that this clarification was of the nationalism color, having not made a fuss about you — you are not a real Ukrainian, you are an inferior Muscovite, so no need, the roots of the split in Ukraine have been germinated for a long time. ...

The roots of the split in Ukraine began even before the very concept of "Ukraine" appeared - from the Brest Union. I hope you know what it is.

[Kazbek]

Shaw you want tama, we are of little interest!

[Eragon]

Quote: self-propelled

yeah, and look for a translation of words like tie, kettle, condom...
and still want respect for Russian culture, language ?! but respect for other cultures, languages? bash on bash

By the way, only in Russian what is called "condom" (the wrong name is "condom") is called a condom. And the translation of the word "condom" is a fuse. Who does not believe - look at any foreign electrical circuit.

[Parsec]

Quote: Eragon

And the translation of the word "condom" is a fuse. Who does not believe - look at any foreign electrical circuit.

Have you watched at least one foreign scheme?
fuse in english
fusivel in portuguese
Siecherung in German

A preservative is most often a "preservative".
Where are you such linguists small-town ....

[cradle]

bed, kettle, nasyusyurnyk ... the latter is especially amazing

[abc_alex]

Quote: self-propelled

yeah, and look for a translation of words like tie, kettle, condom...
and still want respect for Russian culture, language ?! but respect for other cultures, languages? bash on bash

And here it is not the language of another people that is being mocked. And the work of not very clever "linguists" in the sweat of their brow fulfills the frankly stupid order "to forge a move."
After all, what does the Russian language do when society is faced with a new phenomenon for which there is no word? The Russian language "takes" foreign and builds it into its system of word formation.
Remember 3 "floppy disks? What were they called? That's right, flops. And a floppy drive for them? A flop drive."
The Russian language is not ashamed to use words such as rib, spar, aileron, stringer next to the center wing and wingtip. And it never occurs to anyone to invent new words for coffee and cocoa. We call the cello the Italian word for the piano and the French. And all foreign words are included in the word-formation system of our language, therefore cellists and harpists play in the orchestra.
And in Ukraine now they are trying not to expand the language base at the expense of words habitual to the population from the Russian language, but to invent a newspeak on the basis of a farmer-village surzhik. Which causes laughter. How's the classic?
Laugh, right, not sinful
Over what seems funny

[core]

what language, newly invented with the help of distorting words !?

[TokarevT]

"When a Ukrainian gets smarter, he becomes Russian", L.N. Gumilyov. He knew well what he was talking about. What do you call for respect, for "chimera" (LN Gumilev)? A culturological chimera is such a tiviuar, which, unless it is radically destroyed, seeks to devour everything around it and it is impossible to saturate it (L.N. Gumilev).

[Zeev Zeev]

As far as I know Ukrainian, it will be - a bed of water, a kettle, a condom.

[Michail Fresko]

samoper peer fagots and painters, a samoskal drove chairs for artists ..
But harmonica, baguette (bagnet) and onucha, these are Old Slavonic words, and at the same time modern Belarusian.

[VO3A]

Sleepiness - the public, suspension - the society ...

[Just me]

And the word "krAvatka" is translated as "tie" And the word "katyrka" is translated as "window leaf" And the word "bulb" (from Belarusian) is translated as "potato" And what?

[Dym71]

Quote: Simple

And the word "krAvatka" translates as "tie"

And not just from the ceiling, but here's why:

[Just me]

Well, the meaning of your comment? Is this a photo from the 18th century?

[Dym71]

Quote: Simple

Well?

Do not stitch, do not harness

Quote: Simple

the meaning of your comment?

In 1648, when a hired Croatian regiment serving in the French court paraded in the streets of Paris - in honor of his recent victory over the Turks, Louis XIV really liked the scarves knotted around the necks of Croatian soldiers. The French called the novelty the word “cravate” - “kravat” (from the French “croate” - “Croatian”), which was distributed in many languages, hence the Ukrainian name for the tie - “kravatka”.

Quote: Simple

Is this a photo from the 18th century?

You yourself are from the 18th century ....

[Just me]

I don’t harness, I again ask “well?” Let's look for borrowed words in the Russian language. WELL, WE ARE VERY MUCH Flashed with knowledge, I respect It has something to do with the topic of the article?
PS And I'm from the 20th century

[Dym71]

Quote: Simple

Let's look for borrowed words in Russian

And what about cholera?
On Deribasovskaya cholera happened -
She was seized by one (Madame) from the gentleman.
May there be no God, but God will punish this woman,
That in the gateway somewhere I saw an Arab.
That's because of this illegibility of the female
Cholera rushing already throughout Preobrazhenskaya.

Quote: Simple

The topic of the article is mocking another language

The topic of the article is

modern alternative Ukrainian linguists are working hard to create new words

Nitrogen - soul; Ambulatory - prykhidnya; Analgesics - protybilnyky; Bilirubin - Zhovcharvonvonobarven; Hallucinogen - vyzhalnoprychynets; Hemoglobin - Wormwood; The degasser is a gas detergent; Microbe - Dribnozhivets!
This is what the article is about, just the examples were chosen poorly.
And yes, I agree with you, this is not funny!

[Just me]

And what do you want? To a neighboring country? Do you have any problems? People, I already wrote and will write: with this attitude you will receive the Baltic States in Ukraine as well, and throughout Ukraine, and not just in the western

[Dym71]

Quote: Simple

not just in the west

From the West, as the first started yelling on the phones, and congratulating on the holidays, and wondering - "how are you?" - "businessmen" those still!

Quote: Simple

Moreover, throughout Ukraine

Such words should have been spoken in the east, when there they averted their eyes from all Bandera riffraffs, like “we don’t have Nazis or they’re deti, what to take from them!”, Now it’s too late.

[Just me]

So today everyone is smart, after 5 years ... Both you and I ...

[SHIPS]

with this attitude, get the Baltic states in Ukraine
Well, if the course in NATO, so already.
Here are the American sides in Melitopol, they carry weapons.

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

This is not a neighboring country, it is our land and our people torn away from Russia as a result of a geopolitical catastrophe, and this is one of our problems, which is why it interests us!

[Xnumx vis]

Croatia - Croatia ..

[svp67]

Quote: Simple

And what?

Will there be "AND SHO?"

[svp67]

Quote: Honest Citizen

But "komandavachi" - completely killed.

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

You laugh early .. :-)

[Mic1969]

How about this: "sleeping fuck" = "flash"

[self-propelled]

Quote: Mic1969

How about this: "sleeping fuck" = "flash"

actually in the back

[Mic1969]

Well, actually, I specially applied the Yandex screen.

[Mic1969]

And here is another screen from Bing

[Avior]

No way. The flash is dormant

[Mic1969]

Well, actually, I specially applied the Yandex screen.

[Mic1969]

And here is another screen from Bing

[Avior]

Find a normal dictionary, not online, capable of any translation

Actually, you probably shouldn’t try to learn a language you don’t know

[Mic1969]

I was not going to teach anyone. I saw a ridiculous look at the RUSSIAN word, that's all. Are you trying to prove to me? What is no such word? complain about Yandex and Bing. And about your screen, admit, they painted in Photoshop.

[Avior]

You do not know how online translators work?
https://m.kp.ru/online/news/757773/
https://m.gazeta.ru/tech/2016/01/05/8009987/from-russia-to-mordor.shtml
Yes, there is no such word that you quoted in Ukrainian. https://www.google.com/search?q=flash+translation+to+ukrainian&oq=flash&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j35i39j0l2.6332j0j7&client=ms-android-htc-rev&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

You confuse the cause with the effect.
And your idea of ​​the significance of transfers from such services does not correspond to reality.

[Mic1969]

Quote: Avior

Yes, there is no such word that you quoted in Ukrainian.

As I wrote, complain about the administration of Yandex and Bing.

Quote: Avior

You confuse the cause with the effect.

Where am I confused?

Please translate the phrase "understanding the significance of translations" into Russian. And at the same time decipher in what this idea "does not correspond to reality."
And to what extent does the construction that you call the Ukrainian language correspond to artificially molded from pieces of Russian, Polish, German, Tatar and Turkish languages?

[Avior]

In addition, your screenshots do not confirm that in Ukrainian there is such a word, this is not a translation, you yourself entered it there.
Write a flash and translate into Ukrainian ....

[Mic1969]

Quote: Avior

In addition, your screenshots do not confirm that in Ukrainian there is such a word, this is not a translation, you yourself entered it there.

What ukruinits, again you Muscovite put in trousers. Of course, I entered it there, but I can’t eat it until I don’t throw a trick on ukruintsy. And I also came up with a flag for the colors of Down Syndrome for Ukrainians.

[Avior]

Ek has blown away!
Drink a tea with mint and take a breath.
So yes, the translation is written on the right side.
And in the left you yourself enter.
However, maybe you just brought other people's screenshots.

[Mic1969]

Quote: Avior

So yes, the translation is written on the right side.
And in the left you yourself enter.

And you do it the other way around?
Yes, it was in the left one that I wrote "sleeper", and on the right one I expected to see "lighter". But it turned out that I was wrong, like the man who made me laugh with this word.

Quote: Avior

However, maybe you just brought other people's screenshots.

I will tell you a big secret, in fact, screenshots "defaming" the great mighty ukruin language are made and disseminated by Putin personally.

[Avior]

I also write that the screen of your statement does not confirm.
Although it would seem that it is easier if you don’t know Ukrainian, type a lighter or flash on the left and see the translation into Ukrainian.

.
I'll tell you a big secret, in fact, screenshots "defaming" the great mighty ukruin language are made and disseminated by Putin personally

But what about! If not you or Putin, then who?

[Mic1969]

Comrades! I don't give a damn about how an artificial language will be "lighter or flash". I wanted to find out what "spalohoyka" means in RUSSIAN. I found out. What the translators wrote to me is what I posted. What are you trying to prove to me? How big, mighty and spivucha is the Ukruin village of Mova? I don't give a damn about her, the migrant workers speak Imperial better every day, so I don't see any point in learning even single words.
Moreover, even those who speak it do not understand mov, where there are two Ukrainians there are three movs, and all are different. Yandex, Google and Bing can’t account for at least 20% of what ukruyntsi writes on Facebook and Twitter. Is it interesting to them that Putin forbids or do I crack and spoil their dictionaries at night?

[113262a]

As a citizen of Luhansk, fluent in Ukrainian, studied well at school, there is definitely no such word! This is one of the gags. Type P .. syunets and so on. There are already many ear-cutting borrowings and neologisms-MAPA-karta, GVYNTOKRYL-helicopter, PREM “ERKA-female prime minister. This is what the broad Canadians and Cossacks of Manhattan say!

[SHIPS]

Actually a catch.

[major147]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

You laugh early .. :-)

[Egorovich]

A new tongue twister - ukroyazyk maneuvered, maneuvered, but did not catch.

[LiSiCyn]

Ha ha ... In the late 80s, at the level of children's jokes, it sounded better.
"Holodrantsi usih kraiev, gop to the heap!" (Workers of all countries, unite)))

[SamVI68]

Well, if it’s a quote, then quote it correctly. hunger strike us, hop up to the heap. but it's just an idiot joke. there is such a word as “Confess.” but in order to know this, one must be educated.

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: SamVI68

in order to know this, one must be educated.

Hear "educated", read carefully what I wrote ...

Quote: LiSiCyn

In the late 80s, at the level of children's jokes, it sounded better.

You boast about education, maybe then we will "indulge" in Kazakh? And then, I have a Kazakh SSR education ...
And yet, especially for such "educated", the word Russian is written with two letters C. And the beginning of a sentence, with a capital letter.

[tol100v]

Quote: Egorovich

tacked, but did not catch.

Digging, digging, but not digging!

[Pereira]

Checked by Yandex translator. The word caught replacement has not yet been invented. Happened:
lavіruvav, lavіruvav, she did not catch

[den3080]

Kinder surprise - spodivayko egg
and there’s still a humming natsyutsyurnik and all that

[Major Yurik]

Quote: den3080

Kinder surprise - spodivayko egg
and there’s still a humming natsyutsyurnik and all that

Since childhood, I neighed a horse when I came to visit a granny in Donbass. Posters in movie theaters were in two languages, and from them I was pleased to learn that CHINGACHGUK THE BIG SNAKE was on the mov CHINGACHGUK VELIK GADYN. Poor Native American leader!

[Just me]

May buty "Chinganchguk-Velikiy Zmiy" And in Donbass most likely they did not translate Be smarter, smarter ...

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: Major Yurik

Granny to the Donbass to visit.

Well, in what year was that I don’t remember in the Donbass the translation into Ukrainian posters

[Major Yurik]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

Quote: Major Yurik

Granny to the Donbass to visit.

Well, in what year was that I don’t remember in the Donbass the translation into Ukrainian posters

This was in the 60 years, posters in cinemas were bilingual. I don’t remember at all or not, but at open cinema halls for sure.

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: Major Yurik

It was in the 60s

Well, I can’t say anything about the 60s, maybe ...

[113262a]

Oh really! Do not speed! This is how VNA is kidding on CF. The same brunt!

[ltc35]

And they also have warriors wearing harnesses or harnesses, like we have horseback riding.

[major147]

Quote: ltc35

And they also have warriors wearing harnesses or harnesses, like we have horseback riding.

You will laugh, of course, but in the mid-seventies they told me a joke, which seemed then fantastic fabulousness:
A lieutenant who graduated from a Russian military school arrived in the Ukrainian unit. They gave him a platoon. Lined up. The lieutenant commands: "Machine gun-on the chest!" The fighters stand, glancing at each other without understanding. Here the warrant officer duplicates: "A piece of iron on a belly gop-sya!" The command was carried out. The lieutenant commands: "Around!" The platoon again does not understand. Again the ensign: "Where is the first hole, the snout is there!"

[ltc35]

Not only did they come up with new words, so during my service, Ukrainians from the west did not understand the people of Kiev, and they both did not understand the eastern Ukrainians. Out of the situation, talking in Russian. I don’t know now, but the Russian will be there for a long time to go.

[Avior]

You already have a funny beginning- the Ukrainian part in the seventies ....

[major147]

Quote: Avior

You already have a funny beginning- the Ukrainian part in the seventies ....

But imagine!

[Avior]

Imagine, at the entrance of the monument to Bandera, go and stand.
And in the military enlistment office they carefully selected those who did not know the Russian language.
Wherever they were taken, I don’t understand.
From Canada, perhaps they called for something, then no Ukrainian would understand their Ukrainian.

[SamVI68]

horses wear harness. and I’ll kill the soldiers. is it really strange? it is difficult to be a black man in Russia.

[ltc35]

It would be better, of course, if they wore weapons instead of the harness. There are a lot of adverbs in different regions of Ukraine. South and East in general always spoke only in Russian and did not wear "harness".

[Pereira]

Evasionists are clearly taking part in the creation of the military uromovs.

Baguette and bayonet - different items

Although, if ukrovoyaka tries to insert a bayonet into the barrel of a gvintovki, I will not be very surprised.

[Avior]

It is the same
In most languages, the name came from the French bayonet
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A8%D1%82%D1%8B%D0%BA#/languages
And in Russian from German, so the bayonet

[Pereira]

Look at the picture. These are different things.

[Avior]

The same. Look at the link
However, you can write like a French bayonet ....

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: self-propelled

gray fox

Quote: self-propelled

from Chinese

I had a Chinese phrasebook in 1905 (I stayed from my grandmother), the fox there - hooley, I represent the whole translation))

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Honest Citizen

But "komandavachi" - completely killed.

Room Six is ​​resting. In the 20s, when they began to spread throughout Ukraine the Ukrainian language created by Hrushevsky, obligatory for all workers, the people called it "shitty" rather than "moo".

[Avior]

As soon as Grushevsky created the Ukrainian language in the 20th century, he immediately transmitted it to Kotlyarevsky at 18.
The usual thing.

[Misha Mihalkov]

It’s easier for me with Mova, I have a Zhinka zapadenka from the Ternopil region, as you hear the songs I hear, but especially Ukrainian borscht, I can think of Move, in places and really funny ....

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Honest Citizen

I could not read further - the homeric laughter interferes.

And over the Belarusian shkarpets and panchokhs, will you also "laugh homerically"?
It’s stupid to laugh at the tongue.
By the way, nowhere and no one says - "years old". They always said - "wart" From the word - "warta" - protection.
Further - "onucha", and how long has this word been stopped in Russia?
"Getting angrier and harsher,
Death shod bast shoes and ONE
And, barely waiting for the moonlit night,
He goes on his way, more threatening than an autumn cloud. "(M. Gorky" Girl and Death ")
Let it be known to you, Ukraine has preserved more words from the Old Russian language than Russia.

[rocket757]

Soldier to sleep service to go!
They cover, paint everything! "Pravda", history, language ..... babosiks are dripping into the feed of some especially insatiable!
What can I say, the "treatment" will be long and radical!

[tol100v]

Quote: rocket757

What can I say, the "treatment" will be long and radical!

Or maybe painless and instant! Recipes from fascism do not age from time to time!

[rocket757]

Quote: Tol100v

Or maybe painless and instant!

I'm still sorry. Not all, but very many! For the sake of their fathers and grandfathers, mothers, with whom many things were accomplished together!

[TokarevT]

We talked to a Chechen somehow. Word by word, from topic to topic. And he voiced an interesting thought: "If I met a degraded Chechen prostitute, I would kill without hesitation, so that she herself would not suffer, and would not dishonor the people." This is about the question of not dishonoring the memory of their parents, because if they were alive, they would do the same. Taras Bulba is a "living" example of this.

[Mixanchik]

Quote: rocket757

What can I say, the "treatment" will be long and radical!

Alas, this time it was so, until the last Bandera .. Khrushchev and Brezhnev regretted them, and this is the result.

[rocket757]

Quote: Mixanchik

Alas, this time it was so, until the last Bandera .. Khrushchev and Brezhnev regretted them, and this is the result.

Alas, this regrettable, unreasonable step was taken ..... it’s not worth regretting, we just don’t know all that was, we just won’t repeat!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

Khrushchev pitied them

Ordered and regretted.

[rocket757]

Quote: tihonmarine

Ordered and regretted

I did not write about Khrushchev, it just confirms the fact that there was a massive resettlement of residents of the border, western regions of Ukraine, to the central and eastern regions of the Ukrainian SSR. They wanted to "dilute" the vehicle. .... it turned out, what happened.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

They wanted to "dilute" the vehicle. .... it turned out, what happened.

I don’t want to wish such an enemy.

[rocket757]

Then it was so, in different ways .... Only the resettlement wasn’t all the camps and I sawed.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

Only the resettlement wasn’t a camp, and he was logging.

Yes, in our Nerchensky Mine, and indeed in the Transbaikal, I sawed and did not suffer under Nikitka. (although it was smaller).

[rocket757]

Quote: tihonmarine

Yes, in our Nerchensky Mine, and indeed in the Transbaikal, I sawed and did not suffer under Nikitka. (although it was smaller

And what could a logger suffer in general? Lack of contingent?
So the country we have is big and someone somewhere we sometimes .... in short, there is always enough contingent.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

there is always enough contingent.

In the camps it became smaller, recruits appeared, especially a lot from the Western Ukraine.

[Nirag013]

Quite right. My mother told me that just before the war, a large group of "zapadents" had been settled in their village near Zaporozhye. They lived separately, in settlements, did not communicate with anyone. With the beginning of the war, they disappeared literally overnight. Looks like they started home.

[rocket757]

Did you miss the panams or did you intend to become panam ???
The fact that the plan of "adaptation" of the Westerners did not take place, it is obvious .... How many of his fellow tribesmen drove through the deserts to squeeze out of them a slave psychology ??? almost half a century!
I had to take an example from successful experiments, and not experiment in my own way .... it didn’t work out smartly !!! Like how they chatted that a German worker would not shoot at his fellow Soviet worker ??? yeah, shchaz-zz !!!

[Just me]

And how will you decide who is Bandera? For the move? To get the Baltic States is not dumb? Or just stupidly blame everyone? Well, answer me ....

[rocket757]

Quote: Simple

And how will you decide who is Bandera? For the move? To get the Baltic States is not dumb? Or just stupidly blame everyone? Well, answer me ....

Seriously? And sho in that Baltic ... teak so dumb? .... fear? they’ve made us laugh.
And I recognize the brother by the eyes! There is experience .... all young people have already been dragged here. There were those with ice in sight! They thawed nothing because they accepted them as relatives and it came to them, in the end, EVERYONE SEEED AND UNDERSTAND ALL!
I’m working now, and they are adjusting their life, because they live among relatives and friends.

[Just me]

So it’s not a question. They moved and moved. They laugh at the Ukrainian language?

[rocket757]

Quote: Simple

So it’s not a question. They moved and moved. They laugh at the Ukrainian language?

Why? I understand him, I like Ukrainian songs when the little sisters sing ...... the truth is, when they started to chatter like from a machine gun, I didn’t have time for them ....
Everything's Alright.
For example, I read "Count Montecristo" A. Dumas for the first time in Ukrainian ...... cool!

[Just me]

So why is the whole article just a mockery of the Ukrainian?
Wrong words? Speak from Chinese (this is to the author of the article and to the editors of VO) What have the enemy brothers to do with it and just other words from another language?

[rocket757]

Quote: Simple

So why the whole article is just a mockery of the Ukrainian

No need to confirm the stuck "And we are for sho?"
ALL is for sho! BUT, it’s not with us that they began to tear it, they began to destroy the common.
And then, as in any "battle", comes "combat" frenzy and common sense, humanity remains not for everyone! Then only bloody, death and death! There is little that is healthy and humane!
It inflicts many and the cause of the cataclysm is not eliminated!
It will not be worse, ours, the majority, everything "burned out" settled down! On all sorts of exercissa, a small handful of whom ... in short, to whom!

[Just me]

I roughly understood your idea and writes about both the reason and the small pile ... I just disagree, you (Russia) are becoming like another country that brings democracy around the world (at least in the comments) _К I relate to people in Russia normally, have been, talked .... But this article, just forgive God
PS And the generation of you (Russia) is growing, thanks to propaganda, no better than the Ukrainian generation
PSS I hope you will understand me ...

[rocket757]

Do not tell my horseshoes! This is a myth that our youth is interested in something more than the Unified State Examination, clothes and tibidoch fuck too ... ...... understand?
They will soon forget that there was such a friendly outskirts.
There is a small part involved, for one reason or another, in all sorts of public affairs! And basically this group is from big cities!
In short, as in any "normal" country.
So all propaganda goes to retirees and loafers! What is the most important joke!
There are enthusiastic ... here they are going to such chat sites, chat .... ordinary talker.
And since the people are mostly enthusiastic, then extremes slip in one direction or another.

[Just me]

If you have horseshoes, then who are you (joke, watch what you write)
Now seriously: WHAT is the shop on which loafers gather, etc.?

[rocket757]

Do you prefer to call THIS work?
Do not forget about the enthusiastic, they just have such karma.

[Just me]

rocket757

And then, as in any "battle"

Do you fight with Ukraine?

[rocket757]

And why did I take it in quotes? Russian language, forgot the rules?

[Just me]

Yes, I remember ... I did not catch the nuances ... Chew, please ....

[rocket757]

It is taken in quotes, it means only something else is meant !!! "War" is not war, "friend" is not friend, "water" is not water, and so on.

[major147]

Quote: Mixanchik

Quote: rocket757

What can I say, the "treatment" will be long and radical!

Alas, this time it was so, until the last Bandera .. Khrushchev and Brezhnev regretted them, and this is the result.

A sister from Kiev is visiting me now (or whatever it is now). She was born and studied in Russia (USSR) After graduation, she was assigned to Ukraine. She settled there. He tells terrible things about life there. With the tongue "break through the knee." One of the two daughters with a child has already dumped from there to Europe, and my sister spends the winter with them, because the prices for communal apartments in Kiev are not high. I would like to move to Russia, but age ... Just came from a shopping center. Her surprise knew no bounds. So many imports! They are really talking about "hedgehogs" there. I went to a meeting with friends of my youth, she was very surprised by our public transport. New buses with air conditioners (in Rostov for +35). They have a bunch of rusty trash on their routes, says. I went to the region (Novoshakhtinsk) by train, in general delighted! Soft seats, everything is clean, neat. I liked everything at the station. He says: "Such would be" sanctions "for Ukraine!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: major147

He says: "Such would be" sanctions "for Ukraine!

Production is shutting down, agriculture is collapsing, and energy prices are driving up. And you will tell mine that these are not "sanctions"?

[major147]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: major147

He says: "Such would be" sanctions "for Ukraine!

Production is shutting down, agriculture is collapsing, and energy prices are driving up. And you will tell mine that these are not "sanctions"?

ABOUT! So go to the outskirts. They have a "flourishing" economy there now!

[SHIPS]

In short, everything is bad and they will freeze))) Enough to carry nonsense.

[TokarevT]

Good afternoon! Usually radical treatment is quick.

[rocket757]

Quote: TokarevT

Good afternoon! Usually radical treatment is quick.

When it’s like .... A rotten tooth is also removed quickly and radically, something else like that, only then phantom pains can be tortured!
Radically this is so that with the start of treatment it is not necessary to delay! And then you have to separate the tail to the ears ..... and you could get by amputation of a sore brush ... tail.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

In the photo, behind Soldat, a powerful Ukrainian ,, MotoGarmata ,,? :-)

[Vladimir61]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

In the photo, behind Soldat, a powerful Ukrainian ,, MotoGarmata ,,? :-)

Ukrainian propagandists assure you! No looting, he brought it with him.

[Mixanchik]

I always perceived the Ukrainian mov as sincere songs of melodiousness during the times of the USSR (there are relatives from the outskirts since then .. ..
But when about something technical language, it all sounded funny ..
"Sinister pisyulyavy" -zmey gorynych ...))))) And peremoga, as it sounds ..Beautiful language nevertheless, melodious .. But not military-technical, it’s definitely!

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Mixanchik

But when about something technical language, it all sounded funny ..

Until 2014, all the documentation in the APU was in Russian. Now they will have to translate all the technical descriptions, instructions, charters, textbooks, etc. etc.
What will happen with the understanding of all this by Russian-speaking people, often far from boys, only Allah knows.

[SHIPS]

Do not compose. Charters from 1993 to Ukrainian. There was a temporary charter, since 1995 permanent. In the first version, there was an appeal by Pan ... then Vsezh was returned to Tovarysh.
And technical descriptions, for example, according to IL-76, yes, in Russian. There are fifty volumes, which it will translate :-)

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: NAVI

Do not compose. Charters from 1993 to Ukrainian. There was a temporary charter, since 1995 permanent. In the first version, there was an appeal by Pan ... then Vsezh was returned to Tovarysh.
And technical descriptions, for example, according to IL-76, yes, in Russian. There are fifty volumes, which it will translate :-)

I didn’t know about the charter. But with the rest, how? After all, the Svidomo will not calm down until everyone will change the language.

[DMoroz]

until all move on mov.

They tried already, Bulgakov described, and Lanovoy played about I think, I think, I think ... (I can’t insert the video) ...

[SHIPS]

Svidomo translated conscious, sane.
Conceive the rest yourself.?
The same thing with the liberals. Liberty Freedom.
Conclusion, mocking mova, we get insane slaves. :-)

[SHIPS]

From what I found at home.
ALL documentation in the Ukrainian Armed Forces. And already a new generation serves him.

[Mixanchik]

Quote: Captain Pushkin

What will happen with the understanding of all this by Russian-speaking people, often far from boys, only Allah knows.

They’ll just laugh heartily ... Still, Mova. Is a folk language mixed with Russian!
Well, let them try, they have the right .. History will put everything in its place!

[MBRSS]

They will simply laugh from the heart laughing ... Still, Mova. Is a folk language ...

In 15 years, they will already laugh at the technical documentation in Russian. You can retrain quite quickly if desired. And there will be a need.
Ukrainian, of course, is changing before our eyes. In my youth I studied in Kharkov, I understood television programs (in communication was exclusively Russian) on the Ukrainian republican channel with almost no problems. Now occasionally I look at the Ukrainian channels in YouTube and I understand less than half (((
As for the "funny" military terms, etc. - matter of habit. When, for example, they watched Western films in Polish translation in the army (SGV), it was funny at first. Well, for example, when the Roman legionnaires "psekat"))) Then you get used to it.

[igor67]

Quote: Mixanchik

Sinister pisyulyavy "- snake gorynych

actually Kashchik is not a navigator. I don’t understand the forum, what's so funny? Then if you listen to the same commands in Belarusian, then what? I arrived in Penza in 79 and everyone asked me to speak Ukrainian, the same reaction as you have now.

[Ivan 1980]

Kashchik nevmerushchik-kashchei immortal

[igor67]

Quote: Ivan 1980

Kashchik nevmerushchik-kashchei immortal

for sure, I’ve made a mistake, it’s just that the article is not understandable, what’s the point here? Garmata is a cannon, what’s wrong with that? In Belarusian, it’s also garmata, let's laugh. Some kind of stupidity

[Xnumx vis]

Pisyukov Sinister is a sex maniac .. And the Serpent Gorynych from the ancient Russian epics .. Probably it will be the Serpent Gorynych,

[tol100v]

Quote: Mixanchik

th .. But not military-technical,

There was no military, no technical, no industrial, no diplomatic, no literary! Remained alone - Russian - abusive!

[den3080]

serpent gorynych - serpent gorinich
do not invent too much

[sabakina]

Quote: Mixanchik

I have always perceived the Ukrainian mov as sincere songs of melodiousness during the times of the USSR (there are relatives from the outskirts since then ..!

Meehan, what do you want ?? there were people, there were songs ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mixanchik

I always perceived Ukrainian mov

There are no complaints about the songs, but already from the everyday language it was dull.

[Horst78]

I completely broke my brain before going to bed And tomorrow then get up to work

[sabakina]

Quote: Horst78

I completely broke my brain before going to bed And tomorrow then get up to work

Namesake. don't get up. Well her, this job! Sun, air and water are our best friends!

[Gray brother]

Hat - natsyutsyurnik.

[SamVI68]

Well, maybe you put it on your head. everyone else who uses it is put on the head.

[VO3A]

All military negotiations on communication means the great Sumerians conduct in Russian ... In a battle in a critical situation, they speak their native language - in Russian ... The more offensive and terrible everything that happens with the filing of the pi_ndos and their lackeys ... Poroshenko's son speaks only in Russian and gave up his dad: at home at the "great" Ukrainian they speak Russian ... And in general, a person's native language is the one in which he thinks ...

[tol100v]

Quote: VO3A

And in general, the native language for a person is the one in which he thinks ...

If you have something to think about! Many of our shortcomings only think with the help of social networks and the left money of the State Department!

[Just me]

If Poroshenko speaks Russian, why does the article joke over Ukrainian?

[a.hamster55]

And technical terms, but in everyday life! It came in large numbers with its Austro-Hungarian surzhik and ruined a very pleasant literary language that I studied. But for now I understand, because 7 years served in PrikVO.

[tol100v]

Quote: a.hamster55

because He served in PrikVO for 7 years.

I had a chance to serve for three years in Lviv just opposite the "Pentagon" (Kuznetsova, 35), the dialects of Lviv were different even on the neighboring streets!

[sabakina]

Quote: Tol100v

I had a chance to serve for three years in Lviv just opposite the "Pentagon" (Kuznetsova, 35), the dialects of Lviv were different even on the neighboring streets!

No matter how the outskirts go down to this ...

[SHIPS]

Well, it seems like others came in 1939 to Bukovina. Then to the Baltic states, then to Finland, then to Poland :-)

[SHIPS]

Many words from other countries, with the Russian language, well, no way)))

[SHIPS]

The question that tormented me for a long time.
Why in Russia sing carols in Ukrainian?
Why not come up with your own?
And why hasn't Kolobok yet become a Kruglobok?
From myself: to crap and stupidly ridicule the life of the neighboring people, this is the last thing. Half of Russians have relatives in Ukraine.

[Honest Citizen]

to shit and stupidly ridicule the life of the neighboring people, this is the last thing.

"stupidly", as you put it, are ridiculed by such "surzhiks" - when they come up with new words. no one laughs at the language itself. and above the introduced, and hell knows how, in short, they make "surzhik" from MOV

[SHIPS]

This is their language and their right to speak it.
Surzhik? So trasianka on the line :-) :-) :-)
So I’ll come to visit my relatives, but they will stick it in my nose and say, izdzhay you lad to your Muscovites .... we don’t have to do this for us. Yaki does not povazhaivat neither our habits, nor mov.
And they will be right.
By the way, in some parts of the country, for example, in the Arkhangelsk region, I also could not always understand what they were talking about.
As in Chernivtsi, knowing the Ukrainian language, also did not understand everything.
There is a smart word-dialect.

[Honest Citizen]

This is their language and their right to speak it.

Ek as they said, and you can’t argue. But still I’ll try to explain what, in my opinion, is the difference.
Yes, if dialects, there is such a thing as "dialect" (Muscovites "akayut", Kostroma residents "okayut"), there is also the slang of the place where you live.
Before the Yushchenko beekeeper came to power, it was somehow mova, and no one really bothered. Namely, with the arrival of Yuscha Mova began to distort, to squabble ... I would say that Mova "went into the Polish segment" of pronunciation and words.
Yes, this is their country, their language, their right to mock him ...
Only now they correctly say that almost a quarter of Russians have relatives there. It hurts to look at all this. And the mockery of a language that we understand without a translator - especially.

[Avior]

Do you know Ukrainian?
What words from the article changed with the advent of Yushchenko?
The Ukrainian that is spoken in Ukraine is almost identical to the language that Little Russians spoke in the 18th century - Eneid Kotlyarevsky was written in it

[Honest Citizen]

Do you know Ukrainian?

Unlike you, yes, I know, for I taught him back in the USSR

[Avior]

And why, unlike me?
Do you know something about me?

[SHIPS]

Explore the ABCs of Zizan and Smotritsky, on the basis of which the Lomonosov alphabet appeared. That is, the literary language of Muscovy.

[SHIPS]

Zizaniy 1596
I read a lot for the sake of interest. I recommend, then there will be no questions about the Ukrainian language. On the old version of which in Kiev a thousand years ago, services in the churches ruled, and in the place of Moscow, frogs still croaked.

[MBRSS]

The Ukrainian that is spoken in Ukraine is almost identical to the language that Little Russians spoke in the 18th century

I will correct you:
WHILE talking IN LIVING. And the "fighter" will soon become "vinischuvach", be it even a parallelepiped, be it a circle, a louse! :)

[Avior]

The fighter was extinct in Soviet times.
He has always been a Ukrainian scout since the moment he appeared

[Alekseev]

Yes, they have the right to trap on their own mov.
But ... They have no right to restrict those who speak Russian. For these are the same indigenous inhabitants of those territories, which now, often historically unfair, are still part of an independent one.

[Just me]

Are your statements related to the topic of the article?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: NAVI

By the way, in some parts of the country, for example, in the Arkhangelsk region, I also could not always understand what they were talking about.

I am from Transbaikalia, I lived both in the Smolensk region and in St. Petersburg, the Arkhangelsk dialect is the same as ours, only came home and another six months "Okal".

[VO3A]

During my 40-year stay in Ukraine, I met no more than 5 people who spoke Ukrainian beautifully ... The best teacher in the school is from the Poltava region ... All the ADVANCED figures speak Russian in Ukrainian words, and they don’t know half of them. ..Ukrainian language is more melodic and simpler, There are no long complicated subordinate sentences ... Literal translation does not work ... But they do not know this ...

[Just me]

You know, not May, the meaning of Yakut Movi is good. You want to tell me how to make your intellect and your enannes look.
The layout is Russian but if you lived in Ukraine you will understand

[a.hamster55]

Well Bo Wono and e.

[dvina71]

Quote: NAVI

Why in Russia sing carols in Ukrainian?

Because those carols are many times more than the Ukrainian Soviet model .. The current mov is absolutely what it is ..

Quote: NAVI

Why not come up with your own?

Because they are their own ..

Quote: NAVI

And why hasn't Kolobok yet become a Kruglobok?

Because the Russian language is imperial .. with the development of the country and the acquisition of new territories, it developed .., unlike surzhik .., which in a closed system became a rural dialect. I recall .. in KIEV until 17g EVERYONE spoke Russian and all the inscriptions were in Russian. Although that Russian had differences from the current ..

Quote: NAVI

From myself: to crap and stupidly ridicule the life of the neighboring people, this is the last thing. Half of Russians have relatives in Ukraine.

Your quote has an element of schizophrenia .. How can I have relatives of the neighboring people there? WE are with them of the same people .. they just washed their brain with independence ..

[Avior]

You just do not know. In the USSR, quite a lot of literature was published in Ukrainian, including technical

[SHIPS]

It is its own language, with its development. And the article suggests considering Ukrainians as subhuman. Although Church Slavonic this is the forerunner of Ukrainian modern.
And the tongue was spread in every way. Since the time of Peter the Great.

[SHIPS]

Dictionaries look for pre-revolutionary Ukrainian language.
Look for schizophrenia in the mirror.
What one people :-) moksha, Finns and Samoyeds.
Read more:.
One people means one language, which is not observed.

[Orkraider]

Quote: NAVI

Dictionaries look for pre-revolutionary Ukrainian language.
Look for schizophrenia in the mirror.
What one people :-) moksha, Finns and Samoyeds.
Read more:.
One people means one language, which is not observed.

Before the phrase

One people means one language, which is not observed.

I read your reviews in this article with pleasure. After her - no longer. That is, in your opinion, since in Ukraine they speak different languages, somewhere in mov, somewhere in Russian, then it means more than one people, right? So Donbas and Crimea are right, but what, the language is not the same, it means that the peoples are different .. that means the country is also not the same, right? !!

[dvina71]

Quote: NAVI

Dictionaries look for pre-revolutionary Ukrainian language.

That you ukronatsiki and look. If he had already been worn with him as if he were an ensign. You’re writing straight with boiling water .. from - I’m going to die like that .. Only in the original there - on the lovely side ..
I lived in Ukraine for several years .. my grandmother .. pure Khokhlushka (in the best sense) in the evening talked about the upcoming trip to the garden - Pislya snidanka idem NAVGOROD .. Surzhik .. on which Shevchenko wrote ..

Quote: NAVI

What one people :-) moksha, Finns and Samoyeds.

Nazism in its purest form ..

Quote: NAVI

One people means one language, which is not observed.

One people .. besides genetics, one culture, one science, one language .. what are you writing here?

[Sergej1972]

Mordva speaks two languages. The Mari have the same situation. Germans, Austrians, German Swissmen speak the same language, but are not one people.

[tol100v]

Quote: NAVI

, this is the last thing.

And you started from the first! Be ashamed!

[SHIPS]

I am ashamed of both the Crimea and the Donbass. A nasty article driving a wedge at the household level.

[Kazbek]

And what exactly are you ashamed of? Well, explain to us!

[SHIPS]

Well, if you still do not understand, after five years of life under sanctions, it is useless to explain.

[sabakina]

Quote: NAVI

The question that tormented me for a long time. Why in Russia sing carols in Ukrainian?
Why not come up with your own? .

Christmas carols? did you say carols? Hey, change the instructions, but not the 19th century !.
[media = https: //youtu.be/NJ2Vs6q26CM]

[SHIPS]

What are they singing for Christmas?
The Son of God is born. These are the origins from Kievan Rus.

[Kazbek]

What side is the bun to Ukrainian ??? Kolo is a wheel. Kolob - rolled up lump or ball. With what fright does he become round-sided?
Here's another: Decrease. from kolob, further from Old Russian kolob, presumably from the Orthodox * kolb.

[SamVI68]

and hto told you sing sho in Ukrainian? it’s just that sho isho is preserved from the ancient Russian in Russia. do not ascribe to yourself that sho is not yours.

[SHIPS]

Funny ...
"Education will put an end to unreasonable zeal" (c)

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Quote: Mixanchik

I always perceived the Ukrainian mov as sincere songs of melodiousness during the times of the USSR (there are relatives from the outskirts since then .. ..
But when about something technical language, it all sounded funny ..
"Sinister pisyulyavy" -zmey gorynych ...))))) And peremoga, as it sounds ..Beautiful language nevertheless, melodious .. But not military-technical, it’s definitely!

This is not a language, this is slang.

[Just me]

But what’s funny? Just a translation from Russian into Ukrainian and you laugh from the Belarusian and from Moldavian. These are not Russian languages. Article about nothing

[SHIPS]

This is a tradition, sad, mockery.
By the way, the Russians did not know any other national language. Georgians, Balts, Ukrainians, Uzbeks, besides Russian, knew their own.
And not everyone is learning. ... as an example. Famous photo laid out by Rodnina, Obama with his wife and an outstretched banana.
This fool lived in the United States for many years, and never learned the hint of racial or physical difference there taboos, fines and courts.
And then this nonsense was surprised that she was not given a visa in the USA :-)
And people from other countries read it and twist a finger at the temple.

[Just me]

Well, they didn’t know languages? And what? Russia was an empire Why did they need to learn the language of their subjects? Now the Russians do not go to work in Ukraine, Moldova and other former republics. They do not need to learn them (languages). When (if) the Russians go to work in Ukraine or Moldova, they will certainly learn these languages. But will it? And just laugh with the translation I consider unacceptable Article-Rotten

[SHIPS]

They made fun :-) :-) :-) :-)
Tens of thousands are sitting on Brighton and since the Soviet era how they arrived there can’t learn the language

[Pereira]

Hebrew is enough for them.

[Kazbek]

Only Jews are sitting there. Aunt Tsyla and Uncle Moysha. They are the infection as unnecessary.

[Alex Justice]

Tens of thousands are sitting on Brighton and since the Soviet era how they arrived there can’t learn the language

We have the same picture. Many do not know English, work for a penny in black.

[Shuttle]

Quote: Simple

But what’s funny? Just a translation from Russian into Ukrainian and you laugh from the Belarusian and from Moldavian. These are not Russian languages. Article about nothing

Has Moldavian split off from Romanian long ago? To be exact, then Wallachian.
Do you speak Belarusian and Ukrainian separate from Russian? Well then, write Arkhangelogorsk in a separate language. Yeah.
Precisely because the Ukrainian language is not just a sibling, it is the Russian language that they try to saturate with Rogulisms, Polonisms, German, Hungarian and other borrowings without disdaining even English (yes, the strike is the most English word), that is why Russian-speaking, i.e. the fact that they think in Russian, they are just very visible artificiality and tension of this owl on the globe.
Here's to you from t.s. homedata.

[Just me]

I’m very well-received, very well-wonded. So what? You don’t translate banter over the language of the people into the Comedy plane. I don’t really want to remember the jokes of the nineties which were funny then. Which article was printed?

[Nycomed]

"Onucha is a footcloth."
The word is Russian, by the way. The editors need to be more attentive.

[SHIPS]

The boot is not rat, but kirzOvy.
Kryza is a crisis :-)

[Reserve buildbat]

The author forgot the "interceptor" - interceptor, and, accordingly, "intercept" - interception. So it is quite possible to find a "vinischuvach-perehoplyuvach Su-27".

[VO3A]

No, interception is overpowered, feminine ....

[Lord of the Sith]

Skrynka perepyhuntsiv - gearbox, crest - box

[tol100v]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

Shuhlyachka - drawer

So let's get to one more "independent language": "Well, futi kapu .."

[Avior]

Yak was poking around steel.
Ostrovsky actually began literary work in Ukrainian and only then began to write in Russian.

[Thrifty]

And the Russian language will disappear from everyday life, because in order to spoil Russia, they are ready to cross-check the language beyond recognition!

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Will not disappear. As long as I am alive and my children are alive, it will not disappear.

[tol100v]

Quote: Thrifty

for in order to spoil Russia, they are ready to cross-check the language beyond recognition!

The Russians will only be happy! 87% of Russians didn’t rattle the English woah! It's just that people live their own lives! Rich or not is another question. For the economic forum!

[Amateur]

A joke from the daughter-in-law of the daughter-a real Svidomo Solokha from the farm.
A park. Evening. A man sits on a bench in a Russian city and sighs. Another man comes up to the bench, sits on the other end and sighs too.
Why are you sighing man?
Yes, here's a drink and nothing to drink. And you?
And I have a bottle, but there’s nothing to eat.
And I have fat. So let's unite!
We drank, ate and began to get acquainted.
Who are you? - I'm Ukrainian, and who are you? I am local.
Moskal? We Ukrainians do not like Muscovites.
And why not?
You, Muscovites, do not allow us to talk on mov.
And what is "Mova". Like on the move "hand"
Hand
and the head?
head
A.a.a. ... how will it be?
wreck
So, for one reason, did you come up with a whole language?

[Legionista]

The article is not very smart. Laughing at a language that you do not know and do not understand is stupid. As for the terms, the fighter is a Belarusian fighter, Italian aereo de caccia, Hungarian vadászrepülógep, Slovenian lovsko letalo. Footcloths - in French - chaussette russe, in Polish - onuca, in Serbian - obojci, in Czech - onuce. By the way, the sentry is in Ukrainian chat, not the good one.

[Just me]

When I was learning Ukrainian, then "watch" - "vartovoy" And the article is not that stupid but disgusting

[monah]

Not very well taught! sentry - chat, guard-vartovy. (guard-wart)

[Just me]

Yes, maybe the Service under the union passed Knowledge in terms of (in Ukrainian) - at an average level

[Solo2503]

actually, the sentry is wart, from the word warta. You can also translate as a guard (warta - guard). And, in general, the words have common roots - Old Slavic

[Avior]

If it’s just security, then it’s wart.
If there is a protected post, then this is chat

[Kazbek]

Chat is the one who chat in chat rooms?

[Lord of the Sith]

I know Ukrainian very well, but that doesn’t stop me from laughing at him)))
Because it is the language of farm laborers.

[tol100v]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

Because it is the language of farm laborers.

raguley!

[Just me]

And here I am from Kharkov region. I know and respect the Ukrainian language. Am I a ragul? Or laborer?

[monah]

I doubt very much that you taught that serzhik who are now trying to speak, I also studied Ukrainian, but it was the language of Shevchenko and Kotlyarevsky, Kvitka Osnovyanenko and Gulak Artyomovsky. The article is not about this, and no one mocks the language! It's about trying to invent non-existent terms, and to build state small towns dialects of Transcarpathia in the state rag!

[Kazbek]

Ratrak. Or bagul. Something in common.

[Just me]

Witty. And you are Natsik. Not only Ukrainian but Russian

[Just me]

Yes, I didn’t bother

[ODERVIT]

Why in the evening? Now do not fall asleep, with laughter, the old body.

[usr01]

Here you laugh .... And we live in "this" ....
Sleeping Beauty - Sleeping Beauty
The Nutcracker - The Nutcracker
Dotichna - tangent, etc.
In the 1920s in Kiev, there was the Institute of the Ukrainian Scientific Language (IUNYA), where two dozen HUMANITARIANS - hornets invented "very clever" scientific terms ... That's why they are so "humpbacked" and unpronounceable ...
After all, language (mov) is the same tool as an ax, hammer, file, and so on.
And farmers "rogaly" do not need clever words.
And what (who) will grow up in this school if there is no Newton’s first law in the physics textbook ??? Those. ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! Not at all!!!
I’m silent about the story .................

[Just me]

I learned languages ​​at the Union. I know both two languages. Taunting Ukrainian is very annoying. The normal language as it is, I respect, although the main Russian you turn into Natsik or just laugh at the tune of people sending you somewhere

[Kazbek]

I learned languages ​​at the Union. I know both two languages. Taunting Ukrainian is very annoying. The normal language as it is, I respect, although the main Russian you turn into Natsik or just laugh at the tune of people sending you somewhere

It remains to place punctuation marks.

[Just me]

So put you smart, you will understand where to put a point

[tol100v]

Quote: usr01

And farmers "rogaly" do not need clever words.

And Zelensky does not need Laws! Neither physics nor diplomacy! HE Show of the State Department!

[Topgun]

funny :)
Do you know that most technical terms are from the West?
Russian language relative to English - farm? and the British (French, Germans) can easily neigh?

[KVU-NSVD]

Under the Khokhlak pots and cockroaches Svidomo ... in onuchi and bombardment. Suspension brid at the scale of the derzhavi mustache.

[paul3390]

It has always been curious - if the condom is Tsegabonski natsyutsyurnik, then how can it be better, what does it adapt to?

[Just me]

This is a tsyutsyurka. In Russian, it is 3,14. Hope not to burst with laughter

[paul3390]

Not that word .. Like all your misunderstanding, what do you call the state ... Sumerians, ..

[Just me]

Prikinte, but this state is With borders and people And I can laugh from the authorities and the Sumerians, but somehow it’s a shame for your tongue, haven’t you gotten too much with your formulations? So what are you Natsik Russian? Good luck...

[Andrew3000]

- Kume! But do people seem to know the truth, what do you have on your mountains a machine gun of occupations?
- That, shit people, kume, shit!
- But people seem to think that you have shells at your burial site.
- All shag, kume, people - all shag ...
- I think that your tank is the landfill!
- Well .. Why dumb - dumb ...

[vadivm59]

dragonfly-zalupyvochka, bear-bear quiver. I heard that, can they lie?

[Just me]

Bear = witch
PS Wedmed then even in Russia a bear is often called

[Kazbek]

Meved))))))))))))))

[Igoresha]

Well, the same words that are imported in Russian - SOLDIER from soldo, CAVALERY from Cavallo - horse, all borrowed

[Gardamir]

Sooooo. Played all. I try without a mat. A bayonet is a German word, a baguette or a French bayonet mount. Onuchi in my homeland have always said, and this is from Ukraine in a straight line a thousand miles.

[Just me]

I agree But after all, someone controls THIS EVERYTHING? Why was it necessary? Verification?

[Eug]

Sentinel, let's say, is not "years old", but "vartovoy", but this does not change the essence ... it is interesting to memorize 'uniforms "- I have met the term" one-liner "...

[Avior]

Odnostriy - uniform
Ammunition

[sabakina]

I read the article and remembered ...

They walk along our path, with a nationalist bias, but still along ours ... True, we all went through the frantic 90s, and they still have to ... I wonder who will say; "I'm tired, I'm leaving" ... Although, if you think logically, there is hardly one ...

[paul3390]

Quote: Steffan

laugh at my neighbors?

And what else to do looking at the Tsegabons?

[Shuttle]

Quote: paul3390

Quote: Steffan

laugh at my neighbors?

And what else to do looking at the Tsegabons?

Your post humiliates the real Gabonese.

[Shuttle]

“He is a bastard,” Turbin continued with hatred, “because he himself does not speak this language!” BUT? The day before yesterday I asked this channel, Dr. Kuritsky, if you were so kind as to see, he forgot how to speak Russian since last November. There was Kuritsky, and became Kuritsky ... So I ask: how is the “cat” in Ukrainian? He answers "whale." I ask: “What about a whale?” But he stopped, his eyes widened and he was silent. And now does not bow.
Nikolka burst out laughing and said:
- They cannot have the word “whale”, because there are no whales in Ukraine, but in Russia there are many. There are whales in the White Sea ...

M.A.Bulgakov. "White Guard (Days of the Turbins)". 1925 g.

[TokarevT]

Close to these times, A. Turkul "Drozdovtsy on fire".

[axiles100682]

Well, actually, most of the words given in the article are neither new ideas, ordinary words in the Ukrainian language. The maine didn’t garno shoak in Ukrainian, sho in Polish. So I heard all these words more than once except for this.

[Shuttle]

Quote: axiles100682

Well, actually, most of the words given in the article are neither new ideas, ordinary words in the Ukrainian language. The maine didn’t garno shoak in Ukrainian, sho in Polish. So I heard all these words more than once except for this.

So the article is about that. About the newly invented.

[Normal ok]

It is clear that the enemy must not only be demonized, but also ridiculed. Let us recall at least Soviet films about the Germans of the Second World War, - solid. Although the reality was completely different. But articles of such a plan - lower the VO below the plinth. Again, why is the author anonymous ?!

PySy. In the ATO / OOS zone, most teams are given in Russian by Russian-speaking people.

[Just me]

Below the skirting board .. I agree ... Make fun of enemies ....? I agree .. Just what will the next article make fun of?

[Shuttle]

Quote: Normal ok

It is clear that the enemy must not only be demonized, but also ridiculed. Let us recall at least Soviet films about the Germans of the Second World War, - solid. Although the reality was completely different. But articles of such a plan - lower the VO below the plinth. Again, why is the author anonymous ?!

PySy. In the ATO / OOS zone, most teams are given in Russian by Russian-speaking people.

So then the enemy. The enemy is not Ukrainians. The enemy is maydauny. This is not the same thing.
Khokhlov in Rostov, you can fill up. Any puppies and nenko. Yes, all sorts of other almost half the city. And in maydauny, yes, enemies. Not only to us, but to all peaceful people.
Ukraine itself is neither bad nor good. He is there. But professional Ukrainians, like any other similar venality and exclusivity, are terrible both in themselves and in their applied manifestations. Remember the professional "Russian" A.I.Solzhenitsyn. Here was the word creator, as they would say now - the content creator. He got such a bunch of people, he thought, that for more than one century the people will need to do their own thing with the help of cerebration.

[Fu-fu-fu - get out of me, the infection of alexandroisacheiskaya]

[mko]

you don’t know how the dining room will be in Ukrainian

[ilik54]

Well, okay, a cat in Ukrainian is a whale, and a whale, like in Ukrainian?
Ha-ha-ha!
However, there are no whales on the outskirts, therefore there is no such word.
Ha-ha-ha!
I studied at a school in Ukraine, and there we also learned Ukrainian MOV, well, as they taught, we were forced to learn it from under the stick. Imagine Krylov's fable "Dragonfly and the Ant" in Russian - she sang the red summer, did not have time to look back ... and so on, and two weeks later the same fable in Ukrainian mov!
Oops, the text is the same, directly interlinear translation, but the author is different! Well, to hell with yourself!
We begin to ask the teacher a question, “How can this happen?” This is pure plagiarism! And in response, insane nonsense and bullshit.
So I remember that at the general school meeting, the teacher of the non-governmental educational organization, also a Ukrainian, almost yelled at us - Salo eats Ukrainian, but do not want to learn the Ukrainian language? and so on and so forth.
I now think that at one time the Bolshevik-Leninists in vain divided the Great Russian Empire on a national basis - it was a terrible mistake and a nationalist time bomb was laid - so it exploded thirty years ago, and now we, the descendants of these idiots slurp bloody porridge alternating with nationalistic crap of various kinds from the Baltic states, Central Asia to Moldova and Ukraine.
Earth must be returned, and from these nationalists must be knocked out their nationalistic nonsense.
A Ukrainian is a definition of a person by place of residence, the same as a Siberian, a Ural, a Volzhan, a Muscovite. But not a nation at all.
And Ukraine is not a state, but the location of the territory in relation to Russia.

[Dym71]

Quote: ilik54

Ukrainian cat - whale

cat - kit [kit]

Quote: ilik54

and whale, as in Ukrainian?

whale - whale

[Shuttle]

Quote: Dym71

Quote: ilik54

Ukrainian cat - whale

cat - kit [kit]

Quote: ilik54

and whale, as in Ukrainian?

whale - whale

Tell Bulgakov this.
The fact of the matter is that the whole language is built as an alternative to Russian. In everything. The whale is therefore driven by the fact that the place of the whale is already taken by the cat. He had occupied it before due to the fact described by MikhalAfansievich in his best novel.

[Dym71]

Quote: Shuttle

The whale is therefore driven by the fact that the place of the whale is already taken by the cat.

Or maybe because there is no letter Y?

[alexmach]

How can this happen? This is pure plagiarism! And in response, insane nonsense and bullshit.

Here you are rubbish and bullshit straight from Wikipedia. About the origin of Krylov's fables. And you’ll probably be very surprised that Shakespeare, for example, staged his plays 100 times in well-known stories?

He is best known as the author of 236 fables collected in nine lifetime collections (published from 1809 to 1843). Along with the original, this part of Krylov’s creative heritage is composed of revised plots of Lafontaine’s fables (which, in turn, borrowed them from Aesop, Fedra and Babri).

[Kazbek]

You confuse God's gift with fried eggs. Translation and adaptation with a change of authorship. It’s like putting a signature under Pinocchio not A. Tolstoy, but Mykola Dmytruk, with the text preserved to the last comma.

[alexmach]

However, under Buratino and, for example, "the wizard of the emerald city" are signed by Russian authors. Nobody accuses Lermontov of translations and secondary. And it is simply and not possible to accuse Bulgakov, quoted above, of plagiarism, since most of his readers have heard about the originals only out of the way, but they will not be able to recognize them in any way.

[alexmach]

Russian and Ukrainian are noticeably more similar than Russian and ancient Greek. However, a literal translation cannot be there because the rhyme and phonetics of the language are different. I don’t understand what you saw the difference between one translation and another.

PS: if you think that it is literally - just count the words, literate.

Zhvava Babka-Stribunets,
Krasne lito;
Looked ... Bah! Nabala -
See Zimi Vikhorets.

[usr01]

Recommend - doc. film "Project" Ukraine "" 2014.
They explain everything in detail.

[Avior]

Something did not see anything funny.
Language as a language.
And how would Czech products, or perfume smells, react to the Czech one?

[Keyser soze]

Let the thirty-year-old nations suffer to invent new languages. In and former Bulgarians north-south Macedonians the same pain in one place. As you hear the broken, rural Bulgarian and homeric laughter piles ....

[doktorkurgan]

This is nothing. I, with medical terminology in the nightingale, was laughing like a horse ...

[Eug]

So do I. The doctors who wrote the medical history and the extract from it were not laughing ...

[paul3390]

Quote: ilik54

Bolshevik-Leninists in vain divided the Great Russian Empire on a national basis

Not the fact that they had any other option to collect at least somehow collapsed RI ... Drive back with bayonets? And where were they to get, so many bayonets? So I had to make compromises .. Comrade Stalin proposed autonomy, but Ilyich crushed everyone with his authority. But it turned out that, as always, Joseph Vissarionovich was right ..

[Antares]

Bagnet is a bayonet.
Onucha is a footcloth.

quite a Russian words. I still read them at Tolstoy in Peter the Great long before knowing them in the Ukrainian language (which I started from grade 4, and Tolstoy already read at 5, I love historical)

Alexey Nikolaevich Tolstoy. Peter the First * BOOK ONE * Chapter One 1 ...... unwinding onuchi, revealing, - covering a handful of shame, - went into the ward.

Alexey Tolstoy. Peter the First. . ... at the Prince of Savoy, at a steady pace, friendly shooting, onslaught with adjoining baguettes.

and so it is possible to neigh, you know how some expressions sound in some languages?
and the military? Much cooler than in Ukrainian.
It's just that in Ukrainian you can find those words - which you won't find in Russian. But this is the same story of borrowing and withering away words in languages. Russian was more dynamic than Ukrainian and modernized faster by everyone and sundry. Because the main language. Local are less dynamic due to the same reasons.

[German Titov]

"Call me" we "dive" with you, but you are right. If we designate the author as “Ukrainian-“ Aesopian ”language, he“ was somewhere. ”I won't write directly, again“ banned. ”“ Article ”is not for“ VO. ”Level“ Observer ”.

[monah]

I would like to correct the author, the hour in Ukrainian is "chat", there are interesting commands in drill training: "piv-oberta livoruch" half a turn to the left, in Bulgarian or Czech it would also sound incomprehensible to a person who speaks one language, but that's not the point! The writers of new terms sometimes reach the insanity of the "prick" -dragonfly type. "grenjol" -sanok, etc. raising the Transcarpathian dialects to the rank of the state language. Taras Shevchenko, the beacon of Ukrainian nationalists, most likely would not have understood half of the dialect that sounds today in the parliament and around her. It would be funny if it were not so sad. I remember at the beginning of the 90s a major from Lvov arrived at the school (in Kharkov) and literally demanded that he be appointed to the post of head of the department, on the grounds that he: "Volodya Ukrainian language" we laughed, but it turned out in vain!

[eagle owl]

You forgot to mention a funny FACT. Such words. such as kosh, kuren, Kozak, farm laborer, bayrak, tyutyun, getman with his mace ... Che-that mustache is a Türkic dialect, just Rasteryaeva remembered ... Well, about "aidar", which means "chub," we do not speak. and generally keep quiet. Zvidkela fashion for long mustaches - they grow shitty among Asians, so that at least it can be seen - and they grow long ones.
"There are a lot of dark-skinned guys - already this evening ... They will come to us to chop everyone in a row, shouting in the Turkic dialect"

[Orkraider]

I didn’t want to leave a comment in this thread, I didn’t want to.
Comrades !!!
How did you get 200 comments on VO, to discuss how and what is pronounced in the native language of the former fraternal people?
Much more significant topics, for example, about the first flight of Altair in offline mode, scored a little more than fifty ...
And this ... well, it makes no sense to discuss, there is nothing funny.
Sad.
Bleed us, and want to profit from it. And they successfully grow our enemy near our borders. And this must be dealt with in a different way, not with laughter ...

I hate Western hypocrites, accustomed to raking in heat with the wrong hands and preying on a miracle mountain, as well as Gorby and Yeltsin.

[alexmach]

Much more significant topics, for example, about the first flight of Altair in offline mode, scored a little more than fifty ...

There, the "outhouse" humor does not enter, and there is nothing more to say to the "intellectual majority".

[Moskovit]

He studied at the institute with the Donbass guys. Tough guys, one after another mountain. I remember once a Lviv citizen began to ask them, how on earth, now. As a result, I saw a miner’s fist in front of my nose and the answer was enough to breed Bandera. Twenty years before the war, the crack was already ...
I don’t understand why the defenders of Ukraine are so wound up. For a Russian, many Ukrainian words really seem ridiculous. Maybe our Ukrainians. Considering that a lot in Ukraine is a bad copy-paste from Russian, it seems that the language too.

[eagle owl]

Marik, Mariupol, the former city of Zhdanov ... Around 2010. The tavern. The city is so specifically Russian-speaking, well, krainka and surzhik understand everything - a port. after all. Well, and the hobbit is alone, in a kerosene stove, the waiter says to him, "scho-scho ... Can you speak humanly, or only in your Ragulskaya?" So the waiter was applauded! I also

[eagle owl]

And there are moderators ... With a peculiar vision of the rules of communication on the site ... By the way, for example, the Rusfootbol portal has already jumped by such a makar - at one time it was one of the three sports portals, and now ... For half a year they’ve been looking for the leading news feed

[alexmach]

And there are moderators ... With a peculiar vision of the rules of communication on the site ...

Yeah. I will answer only with the words of the joke about Little Johnny.

And these people still teach me not to pick my nose

[Ukrainian socialist]

I am Ukrainian, and half of these words did not know. Lol

[Antares]

Quote: Ukrainian socialist

I am Ukrainian, and half of these words did not know. Lol

to know exactly these words you don’t even need to be a Ukrainian !!!!
It was enough to read Russian classics! Read Russian literature!
yes .... trouble (Bulls)
but "LOL"
I don’t understand one thing, in the Russian Federation that they quit reading Russian classics? Or are they only read in Ukraine?

[eagle owl]

I'll tell you a joke. So, I am ethnically hohil. Was born in Moscow, but all relatives are from Krajina. One grandmother is a zapadnka, the second is a Jewess of Odessa ... Grandfather is from Donetsk, the second is a Muscovite, but his roots are Kiev. I myself was considered a local under Marik .. We were sitting in 2015 with one Ukrainian, who moved from Ukraine in 2010, they turned on something Ukrainian, it seems like news. I sit and my eyes slowly move to the bridge of my nose ... "Vit, what are they talking about? All my life I thought that I was talking about rosumia, but I can't understand nichrome here!” “So it's not Ukrainian. Lvivska gvara, I myself through the word understand!"
The Ukrainian language is such a thing. That T.G.Shevchenko wrote in what language? And now slowly - for school books Shevchenko’s poems are translated from the language in which he wrote in Ukrainian The Ukrainian language in Poltava, Kiev, Odessa and Ivano-Frankivsk is so different that even by dialect it is not close. For example, in the Poltava region, families are inclined. But in ZapUkre - no, Polish influence

[sun- Voz0shLo-o-o-0hohoho]

Grushevsky didn’t like to see his ukrov when he composed a language for them! It’s obvious that he had complexes with his vile origins))
tits-pussies-pointer-licker..ugh

[Prokhorov]

Since the Ukrainian language has at least three large dialects that do not understand each other, the Ukrainian army usually speaks Russian in everyday life, everyone understands it

[Prokhorov]

In the Ukrainian army, in any headquarters where there is an office and office work, there is a person who acts as a translator. The Ukrainian army is 100% Russian-speaking, and no commander who speaks exclusively Russian language can read official documents “from Kyiv” without a translator

[SHIPS]

There is no translator there. There is a document about office work. All the samples and spelling are there.
There is a lawyer with whom orders are coordinated.
The language has been introduced into the Ukrainian Armed Forces since 1993. There have already been a lot of graduates of schools with the study of Ukrainian and graduates of military schools. Of the Soviet ones, only the generals remained, and even then very few.
I also caught a Ukrainian text being read from paper. So this is a colonel, a unit commander who studied in Balashov during the USSR. But that time has already passed.)))

[Angelica]

Captain Pushkin

In Soviet times, there was such a comic translation of the phrase "the dump truck carried the stools" - "self-operative pidsrachniki poper".
Suddenly, the compilers of the dictionary come in handy?

It won't be useful. Because it's funny.
And the real translation is: “self-skid carrying stools.”

[Antares]

Quote: angelica

And the real translation is: “self-skid carrying stools.”

nonsense - because dump trucks, logically, are not for stools, but for bulk cargo
and the truck (cargo - vantage in Ukrainian)
vantazhivka brought stools

[Angelica]

In fact, the language is a hodgepodge of different languages. There is very little Slavic in it.
The same "Maidan" - square. From Arabic it migrated to many Turkic and Persian languages. And then it came to the language.
Hetman from the German Hauptmann is the main person (.Haupt mann).
And millions of such examples can be given.

[Antares]

Quote: angelica

In fact, the language is a hodgepodge of different languages. There is very little Slavic in it.

any language borrows from neighbors/world languages
for example, Russian has a lot of borrowings. It’s the same in Ukrainian.
if only linguists had gathered here - and this is how an ordinary person in the street purely psychologically examines the language that is most similar to Russian - and that is why it seems ridiculously unfinished, a caricature...
This is a standard psychological reaction to similarity.
And by the way, it is the greatest similarity of species that causes the fiercest competition!
the author knows what he is doing - causing a change of feelings (laughter, misunderstanding, hatred)
and then they are radishes... you need to kill them
how easy it is to manipulate people.

[Angelica]

Antares (Antares) Today, 07: 52
any language borrows from neighbors/world languages

I know about borrowing.
But Mova is an artificial language. Just like the “people” who bear it.
And in order to distinguish even more Russians who called themselves Ukrainians, they began to artificially saturate it (the language) with words foreign to the Slavs. And this process continues to this day.
Borrowing is a natural process. What is happening to the language is all artificial. That is why it is impossible to express oneself using it in everyday life. And such attempts look cartoonish.

[SamVI68]

what kind of nonsense did he drill into your head? The Ukrainian language is not Russian, spoiled by Anglicisms and Europeanisms. Old Russian to be precise. Otherwise, you didn’t have to advertise that you were a manager.

[Moskovit]

If you are from Ukraine, then you better sit and talk. Two million Ukrainians work quietly in Russia, although their compatriots (and some themselves) quietly kill Russians in Ukraine. Ukrainian officials constantly make threats against Russia and Russians. Calls for murder and destruction of the country. And what a joy it is when trouble or disaster happens in Russia. The water was turned off. The electricity was turned off. People were burned and the whole country laughed at the Colorados. Separov was “killed” and was promised to go to the concentration camps in case of victory. Yes, a lot more. And then at VO they dared to laugh at Ukrainian words, and so it began!
The famous “What are we for?” is just for you and other ragulya.

[SHIPS]

Remark, because I know. Before water is released into the canal, it is soaked, approximately in February-March. The drop there is 23 meters. Armed people without shoulder straps did not allow technicians from the Ukrainian side to service the pumping stations, and then the approaches were mined.
There were five, now there are two, soon there will be a million. We went to Poland, where Manigrem, Unistream and other payment systems do not work, they had problems transferring the money they earned home.
They kill bandits who took up weapons to overthrow the system. Just as the Russian Federation did in Chechnya. Are Dudayev’s fighters the separatists in your opinion?
They laughed at the Colorados, no one wanted to burn them...You just don’t know what happened in Odessa.
They don’t laugh at VO, this is a mockery of the language from which the modern Russian language came. If Kyiv is the mother of Russian cities, then the Kiev language is the father of Russian? So logically)))

[Moskovit]

It was 42. Then it will become 24. This will happen sooner. The country has turned from the most advanced in the USSR into a supplier of guest workers, and what we should be proud of is not the fact that Muscovites have begun to work less, but at home more. Moved from one stranger's house to another.
It is only in visible philology that the Ukrainian language is the father of the Russian language.

[Just me]

Listen here... I very calmly perceive political infighting, laughing at the statements of Ukrainian politicians and the “achievements” of the Ukrainian defense industry and generally making fun of the state of Ukraine. I'll be surprised

[123456789]

The introduction of paid comments seems to be a logical continuation of developments. If you want to comment, pay!

[Topgun]

let me insert a comment above the person who wrote it

Quote: NAVI

Many words from other countries, with the Russian language, well, no way)))

Russian is precisely the furthest away from ancient Slavic and there is nothing wrong with that!!!! and even vice versa if you look at it from the side of building an empire
language is a means of transmitting information, and when you build an empire, you must make it convenient for everyone (90% of technical terms in Russian are from the West and in general in Russian a lot of words are borrowed from the West) yes, you have to move away from your roots, but that is the price of an empire. ..
that’s why all those exclamations about the Slavs and the Russian language are ridiculous, Russia is not a Slavic state (it’s high time to understand and accept this) but something like Byzantium, and if necessary in the future they will speak English (it’s already happened, you know, it’s spoken in If they wanted to speak French, they would speak German and the rest of the people would be forced to speak like that) by the way, officials actively teach them, but where do their children study? :))

[Just me]

Russia is a federation. What does the Slavic world have to do with it?

[SamVI68]

Quote: 30 vis

"The girl was a bitch."...Translation - The girl was late... There is a word "faggot"...-- Do the math!

The girl fell asleep. and why do you all hear the letter D? I, oddly enough, am Russian. as well as Ukrainian and Mordvin. It so happened that I couldn’t be a purebred Russian. Therefore, in addition to military, swearing and Russian, I know Isho and Ukrainian. I also understand Belarusian, Polish and Serbian. and I finally swear in a dozen languages. beggars - to destroy or exterminate (this doesn’t bother anyone) because the destroyer is a vinishuvach.

[Hungary]

Hmm, it’s sad to look at the comments of local comedians and linguists. Knowing Ukrainian literary perfectly, I don’t see anything funny in words that have been used for several decades, and not as indicated by the author, who does not fully know the material part. Why not laugh from Belarusian or, for example, Khanty or Nenets?

[SHIPS]

Much is far-fetched. There are no such words. This is a variant of mild mockery.
When I always came to visit Ukraine as a child, back in the 60s in the village I spoke only Ukrainian, like everyone else there.
The percentage of words varied. Dnepropetrovsk region, Chernivtsi and Donetsk were different. This is where I went.
Also in some cities of Primorye, where many immigrants live, from Catherine to Stalin.

[Mic1969]

In six days, 226 comments. Aren't you tired, hohlobot? Tell us more about the history of Ukraine from dinosaurs to the present day. Well, if you're not tired of course

[igog]

A poor attempt to prove “Ukrainianness”.

[AleBors]

So the language is artificial. So Svidomo philologists are puffing themselves up. In those days (mid-90s), when we visited Crimea, we watched “Santa Barbara” and something else dubbed in Ukrainian. They laughed until they colic...

[aleks.29ru]

Why is listening to a language funny (if it’s not a song)? Because it is a parody of the Russian language. Children often distort words to laugh. Well, jargon contributed.

[aleks.29ru]

If you want to speak Ukrainian, speak it. Don't force your neighbor.

[aleksandaravin]

This is how the Great and Mighty must be spoiled! Maybe Free Ukrainians can immediately switch to American! It will be clearer!!!

[SHIPS]

  Lastly. About ten years ago there was a program called Gordon-Quixote with the participation of Zadornov. He talked there about the origins of language. You will find it. Well, pearls like the English "juice" is from the Russian word "sock", the lazy English discarded some of it.... Or the Russian Hurray from the sun god Ra, like "at the Sun".... There was a professorship from philologists who said that Misha crazy. The actor Nozhkin pleased me with the question, what was the name of Zerbst earlier, the people shouted in unison. I don’t have the sense to ask, what was all this called before Yuryev? And also, Zerbst (Bull), only in the local language. Our ancestors were pragmatists and no one built a city from scratch. Well, maybe except for waterless Novocherkassk, from Platov’s great mind. I mean, there’s no need to pretend to be a dirigible out of a condom. There is no need to steal history from Kievan Rus and mold it to Muscovy. However, Marx also talked about this.

[alexmach]

About ten years ago there was a program called Gordon-Quixote with the participation of Zadornov. He talked there about the origins of language

Are you crazy to cite Zadorny as an authority on the origins of language?

[Mic1969]

Well, Zadornov is a humorist, he can be forgiven. But who writes history for Ukrainians? For some reason I think he’s a satirist, and an angry and cynical one at that.

[January]

Laughing at unknown words only speaks of your illiteracy. The author did not present a single “freshly invented” word. For the Russian word "girl" in the Czech Republic, a lady will scratch your face. And for example, in Greece they can kill you for “kolos”. Who's funny?

[d.zhuk2010]

Here is a sample of the new Ukrainian military uniform. This is not for you. Who could have guessed that the scabbard was a pihva. But, if in the plural, when as, in the singular - this is already a dirty word and means female...

ahem. )

[Just me]

Not an expletive, but a medical term. So what?

[Just me]

The "medical" term is to blame. But: so what?

[d.zhuk2010]

But: so what?

Yes, nothing!

[Just me]

Which is correct: “what” or “what”? Enlighten me....

[Mic1969]

According to your "what"...

[Just me]

In my opinion, “What” And I know how to speak Ukrainian since childhood

[Ivan Z]

Yesterday at 20.07 I left a comment “I didn’t think that VO would fall so low” it was deleted, draw your own conclusions!

[Just me]

I read it... I put a plus sign... I made conclusions about VO a long time ago... It’s just that there is normal information, so I’m reading it

[avia12005]

The female genital organ is "pihwa". Sounds good?

[Just me]

It's just a word. Why do you need this?
Well, just laugh: what are “pranks”?

[cat Rusich]

Residents of Ukraine they can come up with a “language” and speak it. The question is what "language" will "pan" speak? "? Maybe in Polish, English, German...

[Just me]

Yes, there are a lot of “gentlemen” here who wrote back in Russian... They’re just standing in line to restore order... Either the Ordnung, or democracy, but they really want to restore order (Russian order)

[Mic1969]

Nope. Enough is enough, you will no longer have Russian order. The boys themselves, themselves. Well, or out of the old habit of putting the Poles in the stall...

[Just me]

If we are visiting the Poles, then why did you rush to write all the comments here?

[Mic1969]

Uncle, we’re at home...

[Just me]

And where are we? And in general: what do you mean? Not brothers, so not brothers... Here on VO, except about Ukraine and those others, there are no others...

[Just me]

What I really hate is the Censor. And according to some comments on some topics in VO with the Censor, it’s basically a pair of boots... Did you miss it, nephew?

[Just me]

Why, this site is only for Russians? Announce the list of nationalities that can write comments here...
Write to the editor, nephew, let them announce the list

[Mic1969]

Any except artificially created

[Just me]

So what is this about?

[Mic1969]

Have you stopped understanding the master’s language?
https://topwar.ru/161721-polskie-objavlenija-o-vakansijah-s-frazoj-nikakih-ukraincev-vozmutili-smi-ukrainy.html

[Mic1969]

For Ukrainians, English is the language of the white master.

[cat Rusich]

In Mexico and Peru, they do not remember the “language” of the Aztecs, Mayans and Incas. In Brazil, Angola, Mozambique... they don’t come up with an “independent language” - they use the “language” of the occupiers (colonizers). In New Zealand they speak the “language” of the occupiers - English, but what about the indigenous “independent” "Maori?

[123456789]

The article clarifies the situation in the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the fleet, with its flagship. Whatever you call the yacht, that’s how it will float.

For Ukrainians, it was completely natural to use swear words in their speech. By the way, in the same letter (in the letter of the Zaporozhye Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan) there is the word “sagaydak” meaning “passive homosexual”. Not everyone knows this, because the direct meaning of this word is “a quiver for a bow and arrow.”

[123456789]

Link to the above quote:
https://inosmi.ru/social/20190707/245431769.html

[Crimea26]

Bagnet is a bayonet..... In Peter's army, "bagnet" is a common thing.

[Rippi]

A baguette and a bayonet are two different things. The baguette was inserted into the barrel of the gun, so it was attached directly in front of the bayonet, otherwise it was impossible to shoot. The bayonet was a later invention; it was put on the barrel and did not interfere with shooting.

[cat Rusich]

Residents of Ukraine they can just speak Russian words backwards . For example, cat (Rus) = current (Ukrainian), kit (Rus) = teak (Ukrainian), etc. and so on...