The US has tested new missiles. How can Russia answer?

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The US Department of Defense reported on tests of a cruise missile. It was banned by the Treaty on the Elimination of Intermediate-Range and Shorter-Range Missiles, but on August 2 and 2019 of the year, the INF Treaty officially ceased to operate and the United States immediately tested a new missile.





What is known about the new rocket and its tests


A non-nuclear ground-based cruise missile was tested on 18 on August 2019 of the year on the island of San Nicholas, which is an administrative part of the state of California. She hit the designated target after 500 kilometers of flight.

The launch of the rocket itself might not have been a remarkable event, if not for one detail - it happened two weeks after the termination of the INF Treaty. But Washington for a long time accused Moscow of violating existing agreements. Now it turns out one of two things: either in the USA they managed from scratch to construct a new rocket in 16 days, or the development of a cruise missile was carried out during the INF Treaty, which, incidentally, was prohibited by agreements.

Indeed, in accordance with the INF Treaty, the creation and testing of missiles with a range from 500 to 5500 km was prohibited. And the appearance of such a missile as soon as possible after the termination of the INF Treaty only indicates that the United States violated the treaty and conducted the development of the missile. It was the United States, and not Russia, that was the main initiator of the destruction of the INF Treaty, although this is not recognized and probably will never be recognized. Meanwhile, back in June 2017, two years ago, a program was launched in Arizona to modernize production to create intermediate and shorter-range missiles.

That is, even then, two years ago, the Americans were preparing for an early termination of the agreements and were going to quickly launch the production of intermediate and shorter-range missiles. Russian Defense Minister General of the Army Sergei Shoigu not so long ago reported that the American leadership a year ago laid the budget in the budget for the development and production of new medium and shorter-range missiles. And now the United States has demonstrated that the development of new missiles was indeed carried out during the duration of the Treaty. However, all states are used to American double standards in the modern world.



It takes at least five years to develop a rocket similar to the one that was launched and tested in California. And this means that even then, five years ago, the Americans were well aware of the sad future of the INF Treaty. Perhaps the development of the rocket began immediately after the crisis in Ukraine and the deterioration of relations between the West and Russia.

Never Worth Believing USA


Member of the Federation Council Franz Klintsevich called the launch of a rocket outright cynicism and a mockery of common sense. But it would be naive to suppose that the United States really strictly voted for the INF Treaty and did not develop medium- and shorter-range missiles. Of course, such developments have been and have been going on for a long time, because in the USA they never tried to keep their promises, especially the data from Russia or other countries with which the USA historical rivalry.

Naivety or unwillingness to see obvious things is a weak feature of the Russian government. At the turn of the 1980's - 1990's. the then leaders of our country believed or pretended to believe Washington's promises. Mikhail Gorbachev and Eduard Shevardnadze agreed to sign an agreement with the United States, neglecting the political and military interests of the Soviet Union. In fact, at that moment they acted against the interests of the country and acted as assistants to American imperialism.



As a result, the Warsaw Pact Organization ceased to exist, Germany reunited, and we refused to create medium- and shorter-range missiles. But the United States was able to organize a total expansion of NATO to the east. Not just a few “especially trusted” countries were admitted to the North Atlantic Alliance - virtually all of Eastern Europe joined NATO, the three former Soviet republics of Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania, and Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova are in the orbit of the alliance’s political and military influence.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov drew attention to the fact that in the 2014 year, the Pentagon began deploying Mk 41 launchers at its military bases in Europe, from which Tomahawk missiles can be launched. But the Americans began to violate the INF Treaty much earlier, back in the 1999 year, when the United States began to test unmanned aerial vehicles that coincided with ground-based cruise missiles prohibited by the INF Treaty.

By the way, the 1999 year was not an accidental date - it was in this year that the famous airborne assault on Pristina took place, Vladimir Putin was appointed head of the Russian government, and military operations in the North Caucasus intensified. Washington quickly realized that in the future it would be a question of reviving the military power of the Russian army, partially lost in the "dashing nineties," and immediately decided to act in advance.

Until recently, the Americans could arbitrarily accuse Russia of the collapse of the INF Treaty by involving European allies and satellites in these accusations, but now it became clear to the world who actually violated the INF Treaty and sought to terminate it. In the changing world political situation, the United States required new instruments of pressure, including medium- and shorter-range missiles. Moreover, besides the confrontation with Russia, the United States today is interested in demonstrating strength to China and North Korea.

For the United States, military superiority is the last argument in the struggle for world economic domination. Now that Washington is increasingly competing with Beijing, and this competition has already taken on the character of a trade war, medium and shorter-range missiles seem to Donald Trump and his entourage those “magic wands” that can still save the situation. Moreover, the main opponent of the United States - China - did not restrain itself by any contractual obligations, since the INF Treaty did not sign and, accordingly, was completely free to develop and test missiles.

Interestingly, China also reacted very sharply to US trials in California. In his speech, the spokesman for the Chinese Foreign Ministry, Gen Shuang, stated that the removal of restrictions on the free development of the most advanced missiles to ensure the sole military superiority of the United States in the modern world has been and remains the true goals of the US exit from the INF Treaty. China, of course, did not like the new tests of American missiles, especially since the US is now discussing the possibility of deploying medium- and shorter-range missiles in the Asia-Pacific region.

American missiles can be deployed at military bases in Japan and South Korea, less likely in the Philippines or Vietnam, and are aimed at China, North Korea and Russia - the main strategic adversaries of the States in the Asia-Pacific region. But in any case, if they appear in East and Southeast Asia, they will pose a very serious threat to Chinese interests.

Beijing has already warned the United States that such a decision could entail a new arms race and the Cold War in the Asia-Pacific region. And China, Russia, and the allied USA Japan and South Korea will be involved in it. Of course, there will also be no talk of any termination of the North Korean nuclear project, since Pyongyang needs missiles precisely as a counterweight to the US military presence on the Korean Peninsula and the Japanese Islands.

How can and should Russia respond


It is clear that testing by the American side of new missiles poses a direct threat to the current balance of armaments. And Russia, like some other countries, must answer this. But the political will of the Russian leadership is needed, the economic and technological conditions are needed for a full response to the United States in the field of armaments.

However, Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation Sergey Ryabkov has already stated that Russia will not allow itself to be drawn into a new arms race. A senior diplomat drew attention to Russia's loyalty to the moratorium on the deployment of medium-range missiles. But does such a position make sense in a situation where Washington defiantly violates all agreements and acts guided exclusively by its own military-political and economic interests?



In the changing conditions of Russia, it is necessary not only to continue development in the field of rocket science, but also to increase the strength of the armed forces, since only the army and navy remain reliable defenders of the country from the aggressive policies of the West. Moreover, American missiles pose a direct danger to our country.

Firstly, the range in 500 km is very doubtful. Many experts agree that the real range of the tested missile is much larger. The United States is interested in developing such missiles that, if deployed at bases in Japan or South Korea, could sweep the territory of Eastern Siberia and the Far East, and strike Russian military facilities in the eastern part of the country.

Secondly, if American medium-range missiles are deployed in the same South Korea, then the most important economic centers of Siberia, including Novosibirsk, may be under their attack. And Russia simply cannot but respond to the United States to such threats. Indeed, given the possible deployment of missiles in Eastern Europe, the United States will be able to strike at virtually any point in our country.

What can our country oppose to the Americans? Military expert Alexander Bartosh in an interview with business newspaper “Look"Believes that these are, first of all, fighter-interceptors and ground-based missile defense systems. According to the expert, Russia will have time to deploy air defense and missile defense systems.

The most good option would be a “mirror” response - the deployment of Russian missiles in Moscow-friendly states, in close proximity to US borders. There are at least two such countries - Cuba and Venezuela, but Nicaragua can also be added to them. Already one hint of the deployment of missiles in Latin America can cause real panic in the Pentagon.

It is worth remembering that when Russian planes arrive in Venezuela, this immediately causes a real storm of negative emotions from the American political and military leadership. For the USA, Cuba or Venezuela is the same as Poland or Romania for Russia. Therefore, if the Americans allow themselves to deploy missiles in Eastern Europe, Russia is freed from any moral obligation to deploy its missiles in Latin America.

In addition, a notification of those countries where the United States intends to deploy medium- and shorter-range missiles that they will become targets for preventive attacks by the Russian armed forces could be a good step. By deploying American missiles, the countries of Eastern Europe or East Asia risk, given their territorial dimensions, their very existence. But are the Japanese and Koreans, Poles and Romanians ready to die because of the inability of their leadership to say a firm no to American orders or persuasion to place missiles on their territory?
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  1. -11
    21 August 2019 05: 05
    oh, what our generals are darling, we’re offended that they left DSSM, now they’ll pay, they trusted them, now we’ll write off all the jambs of politics on others, and we are cute and fluffy
    1. +10
      21 August 2019 06: 22
      Quote: Vasily Ponomarev
      they’ll cry now, they trusted them

      Excuse me, but which of the generals "cried"? The surname is possible. You have some kind of strange attitude. A general by his position is NOT ALLOWED to "cry".
      Quote: Vasily Ponomarev
      we are cute and fluffy
      No, we are "angry and tough"
      But the political will of the Russian leadership is needed, the economic and technological conditions are needed for a full response to the United States in the field of armaments.
      Moreover, it is known how to answer. This is an obligatory strengthening of the air defense-missile defense system, at the expense of new missile systems and radio-technical systems, moreover, "new" ones, including those that have been modernized. And the readiness for the production of modernized Iskander missiles with a range of over 500 km and lightweight missiles based on YARSA with a range of up to 5000 km, and of course, land-based Calibers of various modifications.
      1. +6
        21 August 2019 06: 49
        At least the northwestern United States, including Seattle, is vulnerable to Russian medium-range missiles deployed on the Novosibirsk Islands. If you place missiles on Wrangel Island then the affected area will partially extend to California. Therefore, talking about the complete invulnerability of US territory from medium-range missiles is not true.
        1. +2
          21 August 2019 06: 52
          Quote: mikh-korsakov
          At least the northwestern United States, including Seattle, is vulnerable to Russian medium-range missiles

          It should be understood that apart from the United States, we still have "problem" countries that either already have such missiles or are about to appear. And "spending" on them "Voevoda" is somehow too "bold"
          1. +1
            21 August 2019 16: 21
            In any case, we are in a worse position than them. From Korea and Japan to us is much closer than from Wrangel Island to the United States. Therefore, their missiles can be smaller and cheaper. In addition, we, in addition to the United States, need to hammer their satellites. But our economy is breathing in the air, how do we rivet a lot of rockets?
      2. +1
        23 August 2019 19: 13
        Sergey, if by "lightweight Yars" with a range of 5000 km you mean the RS-26, then you are mistaken, this missile, and a shortened version of Yars by one stage, but this is an ICBM, it has an even greater flight range than the classic Yars on 1000 km.
        1. +1
          23 August 2019 19: 24
          Quote: Sergey K
          You mean the RS-26, then you are mistaken, this missile, and a shortened version of Yars by one step, but this is an ICBM, it even has a longer flight range than the classic Yars at 1000 km.

          Strange, but so far everywhere I see its range from 2000 to 6000 km. Due to what then, if she has a third less weight?
          1. 0
            23 August 2019 19: 37
            Yes, that's exactly what Western media wrote, but for a couple of years there has been nothing on this rocket. It has a different fuel - it’s 1.1-25 percent more caloric and XHNUMX-class, and another type of RFG. I don’t think that the rocket has a future, there are many shortcomings.
            1. +1
              23 August 2019 19: 41
              Quote: Sergey K
              I don’t think that the rocket has a future, there are many shortcomings.

              Bad. After all, we need to replace the "dead" "Pioneers" with something
              1. +1
                23 August 2019 19: 51
                It is very similar to Pioneer (externally), the Americans, apparently obtained through the exploration of rocket images and decided once it was similar to Pioneer, which means it is Pioneer and therefore the whole epic, remember, they wrote for ten years that the Russians created the RS-26 BRDS and thereby violate the INF Treaty, and now a couple of years of silence.
              2. +1
                23 August 2019 20: 03
                In general, we need BRDS but less than the Pioneer (not 37 tons, but tons like 12-15), but with the same range - 5000 km.
                1. +1
                  23 August 2019 20: 04
                  Quote: Sergey K
                  not 37 tons, but tons so 12-15

                  Does that mean "monoblock"?
                  1. 0
                    23 August 2019 20: 09
                    Not necessarily, it is possible to keep within the 500-600 kg of cast weight. There will be three 3-32 warheads of 150-250 ct, the same as on the mace.
                    1. 0
                      23 August 2019 20: 15
                      Quote: Sergey K
                      Not necessarily, it is possible to keep within the 500-600 kg of cast weight. There will be three 3-32 warheads of 150-250 ct, the same as on the mace.

                      Well, this is all theory, as I understand it, there is no finished project yet and now they will do something in a hurry ...
                      1. +1
                        23 August 2019 20: 18
                        Unfortunately, you are right, you have to do it from scratch, otherwise the Pioneer will turn out again.
                      2. +1
                        23 August 2019 20: 22
                        Quote: Sergey K
                        otherwise Pioneer will turn out again.

                        Well, the Americans do not seem to philosophize mischievously, they are going to test New Pershing.
                      3. +1
                        23 August 2019 20: 31
                        You mean LRHW, from what got into the press everything is very strange rocket length -7442 mm, diameter -887 mm - this is a starting weight of 4500 -5400 kg, like the old Pershing - 1A, the diameter is very strange - they do not have such engines GENERALLY. The Pershing-2, with a starting -7500 kg, had a range of -1800 km, these claim 3700 in miles, for some reason, sea and even slipped the figure of 6000 km. As the saying goes, "dreaming is not harmful."
                      4. 0
                        23 August 2019 20: 35
                        Quote: Sergey K
                        As the saying goes, "dreaming is not harmful."

                        Well, here's how to conduct the test, much will become more understandable and clear.
  2. +9
    21 August 2019 05: 16
    Some article is one-sided. Do you want to say anything about Caliber? But even that doesn't matter. It's just for objectivity.
    But what is important is that the treaty has become meaningless since such weapons appeared in third countries that are not signatories to the INF Treaty. Thus, it turns out that only two countries of the world are limited in this type of armament, and the rest are not. It is clear that this is an unacceptable situation for signatories to the Treaty. And in fact, secretly, the issue was resolved in both countries.
    And now, when you can’t hide the awl in a bag, they try, as always, to push each other (like small, honest word), and earn political points.
    The problem is that the world has changed since 1987, and we need to be adequate to this changed world.
    1. +9
      21 August 2019 05: 37
      Thus, it turns out that only two countries of the world are limited in this type of armament, and the rest are not. It is clear that this is an unacceptable situation for signatories to the Treaty. And in fact, secretly, the issue was resolved in both countries.

      not only was the agreement in respect of only two countries, but it was also bumpy, because took into account only ground launchers. Missiles of medium-range air or sea-based both existed and remained. Given the superiority of the United States precisely in this component, we did not even have to get into such an agreement from the very beginning.
    2. +1
      21 August 2019 06: 54
      Quote: Pavel_N
      Do you want to say anything about Caliber?

      And what is not said about him?
      Quote: Pavel_N
      But what is important is that the treaty has become meaningless since such weapons appeared in third countries that are not signatories to the INF Treaty.

      It became meaningless for the United States at the time of the collapse of the ATS and the USSR. Present Russia, the USA is not so terrible. They are more frightened by the growing role of China. And he is not going to conclude such an agreement.
      1. 0
        22 August 2019 09: 00
        Quote: svp67
        They are more afraid of the growing role of China. And he is not going to conclude such an agreement.

        These are all fairy tales. If the USA was so preoccupied with the Chinese RSD and it was their pretext to look like white-winged peacekeepers, then this is purely a grater with China and their bilateral agreement. Forward and with the song - to conclude a similar one with the PRC, the Treaty with Russia did not interfere with this. It interfered with only one thing - the global strike is meaningless without new Pershing and ground launchers under the Kyrgyz Republic.
        1. 0
          22 August 2019 09: 09
          Quote: g1washntwn
          it’s purely THEM with China graters and their bilateral agreement. Forward and with the song - to conclude a similar one with the PRC, the Treaty with Russia did not interfere with this.

          Why didn't he interfere? Interfered, even very much. The United States did not have the same "leverage", now it appears.
          Quote: g1washntwn
          It interfered with only one thing - the global strike is meaningless without new Pershing and ground launchers under the Kyrgyz Republic.

          And it's the same ... as they say "two in one". But I repeat once again, we are not the main target of this US "operation", the main blow is directed at China, we are only one of its stages
    3. +2
      22 August 2019 08: 48
      Quote: Pavel_N
      Do you want to say anything about Caliber?

      We want to. Development and testing for marine and air carriers does not fall under the INF Treaty. Club-K was tested only in the performance of a 20-foot and X-35 - that is, neither formally nor practically the INF Treaty was violated by Russia. Now we are not bound by such obligations, and we can land the Gauges at least in 40-foot containers (which you want), at least on the ground chassis, at least in the beds, to set up and increase the range as we wish. A missile from a sea carrier easily turns into a ground version, but PU is needed - their development was banned by the INF Treaty.
      Now try to find an explanation of why immediately after leaving the INF Treaty the United States launched Tomahawk from the ground version of Mk41, although before that they all vowed that these ground versions of them for missile defense could only launch anti-missiles?
      1. -1
        22 August 2019 20: 37
        wink It is not intentions that matter, but opportunities. And "opportunities" are always made with a reserve and an eye for the future. So you don't have to include a lawyer.
        1. +2
          23 August 2019 07: 28
          Well, we have, as it were, freedom of speech and what is included in the head is not regulated.
          U.S. Unconfirmed Claims Relating to OTRK Missiles Iskander, not Caliber. We admit our mistake or continue to work with the misunderstanding mode turned on?
          What is there who keeps in mind the intentions and capabilities of the INF Treaty did not regulate. If there was a fact of the presence of ground launchers for the Caliber, this would be a violation, but no. But the American universal UVPU in the ground version - yes, since it allows launching of percussion weapons, these American tests have confirmed this.
          1. 0
            23 August 2019 10: 41
            wink Your right, of course, is to choose how you behave. However, as you yourself noticed, if there were ground-based launchers, then yes - then this is a violation. At the same time, everyone knows one quality of "Caliber" missile launchers - their versatility and the ability to shoot them from any unified platform. (Check out the Club-K promo videos, for example). Which, in turn, can be either in the sea or in the field. So it is not clear to me about what mistake you are attributing to me.
            Iskander also uses a cruise missile with characteristics close to the "Caliber". Moreover, the KR "Caliber" is being developed and produced by the same enterprise as the KR for Iskander. Those. The Iskander is just the ground-based forerunner of the Caliber. Once again confirms the fact that "there would be a rocket (read - technology) and there would be a launcher." It is strange that you do not understand this. Or follow a formal reading of the contract. That is, approach not the essence of the question, but its form. Which is forgivable for a lawyer, but absurd and unforgivable for an engineer.
            And the bottom line is that there is a technology for delivering explosives and nuclear weapons over a distance of more than 500 km and less than 5000, from any platform (ground, surface, underwater, air), that's all. And what size it is there, fits or not into the formal requirement is no longer important, you can shrink if necessary. This, in most cases, is a matter of technology, and as practice shows, it is solvable.
            At the same time, mind you, I am not defending the Americans. They are known for their smart ass. However, we did not sleep either, which is good news. Now, this agreement is not needed by anyone. And probably even harmful. And the Americans are simply looking for an excuse to demonize the Russian Federation once again, and under this "noblest" pretext, at the same time, to withdraw from an unprofitable contract and legalize their developments. However, we have a similar situation.
            1. +2
              23 August 2019 11: 41
              Tomahawks have always been like this. And, sho? What were your questions about Caliber? Air and sea development and testing (even from the ground) is not prohibited, but a marine UVPU located on land is a violation. What and how, bypassing the contracts, it was allegedly laid - pure speculation that "you can't sew it to business." Ground versions of naval missile launchers with a range of more than 500 km were ALWAYS implied, but they were not tested with ground launchers and were not deployed! Regarding the "usefulness" of withdrawing from the INF Treaty, I think that this gap will not benefit anyone, but this is a necessary measure and that pebble that is capable of bringing down the entire world security in an avalanche. Of course, if someone (let's not point the finger) starts planting their INFs all over the world.
              1. 0
                23 August 2019 14: 32
                You did not convince me. Nevertheless, I will adhere to the concept expressed by Bismarck as an aphorism (see above). Therefore, this Treaty, in fact, was stillborn. Because technology cannot be stopped. They can only be stopped by general degradation and total immersion in the Middle Ages. Any available technology will sooner or later be brought to its perfect (technically at the moment) form. For example: if cloning technology has appeared, then the ultimate application of this technology will appear - human cloning. No matter how it is forbidden. By the way, it seems that China has already conducted such an experiment.
                Therefore, all prohibitions, especially in such a sensitive area as defense ... will never be respected 100%. Or, it might be better to say, they will be generally respected, but with reservations.
                This is confirmed in the best possible way by this whole situation with the missile technologies of the Russian Federation and the United States, which "violate" the INF Treaty. It is clear that these technologies are a hundred years old at lunchtime. And that the development of these CDs (that we have amers) did not start yesterday, and not even 3-4 years ago, but much earlier. Caliber is, for example, a further development of the Turquoise design and development project. Here, even on "VO" there is an article:
                https://topwar.ru/281-biryuza-iz-sovetskogo-nasledstva-perepugala-amerikancev.html
                The same thing is with Americans - earlier designs gain a second life, brought to the requirements of today - made more distant, accurate, reliable, etc.
                1. +1
                  26 August 2019 12: 19
                  Let’s not get into the philosophical wilds about the impossibility of slowing down progress.
                  The whole problem lies in the injured pride of the Americans, for Russia has not only similar "tomahawk-like" universal carriers, but also other strategic means of deterrence. And how to answer and how to put pressure besides missiles in Europe and Asia against the European part of the Russian Federation and the Far East with Siberia in the East? ... Therefore, it is quite expected that they opened Kingstones near the INF Treaty with shouts of "I'm not guilty!" And China here seems to be completely on the sidelines, because the Americans need it in the role of a geopolitical adversary to anyone but not to themselves.
  3. +3
    21 August 2019 05: 27
    I am 100% sure that the additional flight range (over 500 km) is incorporated constructively in both Caliber and Iskander. The same is with the Americans. Therefore, there is no need for deep modernization or development of a new rocket based on updated requirements
    1. +2
      21 August 2019 07: 45
      Quote: Ka-52
      I am 100% sure that the additional flight range (over 500km) incorporated constructively in both Caliber and Iskander.

      Naturally, because the INF Treaty dealt with land-based missiles, and the "Calibers", as I know, were sea-based. Naturally, the development of a ground-based mobile rocket launcher for them is not so much a matter of time as of technology. Yes, and "Iskander" (if the designers wish) can fly further. This is only part of the answer. On the way is a complex with SMD ground missiles with hypersonic speed. No wonder Shoigu warned hot American heads and asked them to refrain from rash actions.
      Worst of all will be those "pedagogical" countries of deploying American "missile defense" dual-use systems. It may be that the missiles that launched the missiles will not even have time to find out the result, because the time of arrival of the hypersonic missile is much less and it is simply not given for interception ...
  4. -2
    21 August 2019 05: 42
    Comrade Ryabkov!., Pack your bags and retire or an analyst on STV.
    "since only the army and the navy remain reliable defenders of the country from the aggressive policy of the West."
    So the answer should be quick and tough!
    There is nothing to be done, our fate is such a campaign, invest in weapons so that there is peace.
  5. -1
    21 August 2019 05: 43
    Russia does not have missiles on the American continent, and the United States can overlay Russia with missiles stationed in eastern Europe, and if this is hypersonic, then you can immediately cite. So why should the United States bind its hands with ridiculous treaties if they are in a winning position.
    1. -2
      21 August 2019 06: 51
      But will Europe agree to this?
      1. +6
        21 August 2019 08: 13
        Which thread is Austria, France or Germany perhaps not. But why ask them?

        Sprats - with pleasure, also pay for the construction of bases. You can get from Spratia a spit to St. Petersburg, and from another cover the Kaliningrad enclave.

        Ukraine - again with joy, even yesterday there was an article. For example, from Kharkov, within walking distance, the largest air base of the air force air defense zone. Well, a bunch of strategic objects, I'm already silent about Moscow.

        Next is the question of massaging. Again, using MK-41 including Ticonderoges and serial axes removed from the decommissioned ones, you can massage 1000 + stationary missiles aimed at the heart of Russia. And without an answer. For completely burned Spratia or Ukraine = for the United States does not cost anything.

        The second stage is more interesting - I will put that in the 2020 year there will be tests of the American BRDS.
      2. 0
        21 August 2019 11: 29
        Europe is a colony of the United States, they do not need to be asked.
    2. +2
      21 August 2019 07: 52
      Quote: Plague Doctor
      Russia does not have missiles on the American continent

      You can give a 100% guarantee that in the ports of countries loyal to Russia there are no:

      with a flight range of up to 4000 km? belay For the declared range for the export version is 300 km, and from the experience of using "Calibers" we know how vividly the Western military was surprised when Syrian militants were attacked from the Caspian Sea ...
      So ...
      1. +1
        21 August 2019 11: 09
        We need medium- and shorter-range ballistic missiles, since cruise flying has great and great vulnerability. And to ensure massive use near the borders of the United States is a daunting task. But amers overtake Russia-much easier.
        1. 0
          21 August 2019 11: 45
          Quote: Xenofont
          But amers overtake Russia-much easier.

          Reasoning geopolitically:
          The NATO countries surrounding Russia (all taken together) have a territory slightly larger than the Krasnoyarsk Territory. The location of missile defense elements or other "American intrigues" entails a guaranteed 100% missile strike on the territory. What will remain after this and will any nation agree to become hostages of US interests? The issue is controversial. Therefore, the assumption that, by and large, there will be those willing is wrong. The leaders of European countries know this. And our leader knows that although they are pulling something up there in unison with the United States, they have not completely lost their common sense. They understand that they will be appointed as cannon fodder in a big war. Therefore, it is premature to talk about the simplicity of taxing Russia.
          Therefore, Russia is invited to dialogue in various instances. An attempt to crush our country is a priori economically doomed to failure (we will crush ourselves lol) Threatening the deployment of some military groups is nonsense. Not everything is so simple in old Europe amid the growing economic power of China, India and other countries, which may turn out to be a little more obstinate than the overseas strategists suggest.
          hi
          1. 0
            21 August 2019 13: 22
            I agree in many respects, but not the size of the satellite states, but the length of the borders, including the maritime ones, is important. Plus, Euro-partners' sense of self-preservation is sometimes overshadowed by the prospect of economic benefits from submission to the US dictatorship.
            1. 0
              21 August 2019 16: 28
              It is foolish to hope that European countries will not allow US missiles to come. After all, it has already been launched in the past more than once. And now it’s all the more full of all the Romanians with the Balts, who will do anything to serve the United States.
  6. +2
    21 August 2019 06: 14
    How can Russia answer?
    It’s worth it, all the more so. Regarding the deployment of Americans in Europe and Asia, the Russian side also clarified its position.
    1. +1
      21 August 2019 08: 00
      Quote: rotmistr60
      The Russian side also clarified its position.

      Type:
      In which case, we will hit on the arrogant red overseas face ... laughing I heard it myself:
  7. +6
    21 August 2019 06: 44
    As soon as missile weapons appeared in the world (after the Second World War), they always had targets not on the territory of the USSR-RF, respectively, and the USSR responded in the same way. Until 1987, Europeans could not "sleep well" under the gun of Soviet missiles in Europe (Western) and held anti-war and anti-American demonstrations. But we decided to show ourselves "good" and disarmed, and Europe "began to sleep well" - everyone seems to be fine, except for the United States. For Americans, weapons are not weapons of war; for them, weapons are primarily a commodity that brings huge profits and, together with the dollar, makes the United States supposedly great. But new players have appeared on the arms market who have begun to "rip" substantial chunks from the traditional profits of the American military-industrial complex (and the size of these chunks tends to increase). The profit is decreasing, but you want to eat))) So the Americans figured out that there are no competitors on the SMD missile market (some countries do this, but they cannot trade them) and decided to revive their business until someone else occupied (China, Iran, India, North Korea, etc.) Of course, we are the loudest indignant, but this is so, for decency. We now need to sensibly explain to ordinary people in Europe (just do not confuse the people of Europe with our "European partners) that their" peaceful sleep "ended due to the fault of their American friends and defenders. It is time for" yellow and other rainbow vests "to fight not only for improving the life of the average European, but also for the right to stay alive, while not losing the personal well-being acquired by "backbreaking work".
    1. +4
      21 August 2019 07: 23
      Weapons for Americans are not weapons of war, for them weapons are primarily goods that bring huge profits
      ... Exactly, all this hype, exclusively the struggle for the arms market ... You can't sell a rocket like a hamburger, here you need a different "advertisement" ... Like your favorite city can sleep peacefully if you have our missiles or if you bought our missiles ...
      1. +1
        21 August 2019 07: 36
        So I about the same)))
  8. BAI
    +2
    21 August 2019 08: 32
    but now it became clear to the world who actually violated the INF Treaty and sought to terminate it.

    I’ll say one amazing (for the author) thing - the whole world has remained unconvinced - Russia is to blame.
  9. 0
    21 August 2019 08: 36
    And why warn them, they’re stupid children, they don’t understand what it’s shining for them after the deployment of US missiles. They are well aware that there will be only one ash left from them.
  10. -1
    21 August 2019 08: 58
    The launch of the rocket itself might not have been a remarkable event, if not for one detail - it happened two weeks after the termination of the INF Treaty. But Washington for a long time accused Moscow of violating existing agreements. Now it turns out one of two things: either in the USA they managed from scratch to construct a new rocket in 16 days, or the development of a cruise missile was carried out during the INF Treaty, which, incidentally, was prohibited by agreements.

    Now shit on everything. Missiles to Cuba, to Venezuela. For protection against ISIS, aliens and other drug traffickers from Afghanistan.
    If Putin has eggs - then he will answer, if there are no eggs - then the rest is air shock, and you can just start a nuclear war to destroy everything. So it will be more humane.
  11. 0
    21 August 2019 09: 40
    Western Siberia - Lisbon and Chukotka - Los Angeles: our everything.
  12. +2
    21 August 2019 11: 39
    The labeled bear had to be judged 20 years ago, and given three life sentences for the collapse of the USSR. Well, or shoot a villain
  13. 0
    21 August 2019 15: 49
    1) Acceleration stage to the ballistic Iskander and it will fly 1,5-2 thousand km.
    2) Land x-101 and it is desirable to increase the range.
    3) After the termination of the SNV, increase the production of Yars.
  14. +2
    21 August 2019 16: 09
    Quote: Pavel_N
    Some kind of one-sided article.

    The article is not only one-sided, but also does not correspond to reality. This "new" missile, which was created contrary to the INF Treaty, has been in service with the US Navy since 1986. But before that it was used only from marine carriers. And in Iraq, and in Yugoslavia, and in Libya. the TLAM missile is not a violation of anything. Until August 2, 2019, it was used exclusively from maritime carriers. Now they have tried it from a land launcher ...

    Quote: ROSS 42
    You can give a 100% guarantee that in the ports of countries loyal to Russia there are no:

    with a range of up to 4000 km? belay For the declared range for the export version is 300 km, and from the experience of using "Calibers" we know how vividly surprised the Western military was when Syrian militants were attacked from the Caspian Sea ... So ..

    Containerized? Yes, with a range of 4000 km? And why not 10 km?
    And them, these containers, at least in the amount of 5 or 6 pieces were made? Look at the annual reports of the respective companies and you will be very surprised and disappointed. Such containers were present exclusively at exhibitions. Nobody let them out to foreign customers. And nobody took a chance on them. And the meaning of their presence in the ports of loyal countries. Well, they will strengthen the anti-ship component of defense, and then what?
    It was not the Western military that was surprised by the experience of using "Caliber", but our media. For our media are essentially "writers" and not "readers". If you were interested, then 2 years earlier, the commander of the Caspian Flotilla gave an interview about the practice of using these new missiles at that time. And they were told in Russian that the anti-ship missile struck an integral distance of 375 km, and the missile for firing on the coast - at a distance of about 1000 km. He was also asked the question, what, from the Caspian Sea, we could shoot at the Persian Gulf, to which he offered to take a map and a ruler and answer this question ourselves
    But our media are wow. They only hear themselves. Therefore, after 2 years, the launch of "Caliber" at such a range produced the effect of an exploded bomb, and primarily on our readers. They opened their eyes. And the West knew about it, since this interview was attended by representatives of multimedia. But those deaf ears do not miss such things

    Quote: ROSS 42
    The NATO countries surrounding Russia (all taken together) have a territory slightly larger than the Krasnoyarsk Territory.

    Yeah, 1,675 times the size. This is more than 1,5 times, and not "a little more"

    Quote: ROSS 42
    The location of missile defense elements or other "American intrigues" entails a guaranteed 100% missile strike on the territory.

    Do we have nuclear warheads, like fleas on a dog, to place them "square-nested" on the territory of any country? First of all, the strike will be at missile defense facilities, airfields, naval bases, and places of concentration of troops. And not just by territory
  15. 0
    21 August 2019 17: 57
    The States will be North Korea. Why the hell should Russia give an answer? Each Ivan has his own plan.
  16. 0
    22 August 2019 14: 03
    Proposed elongated Iskander and shortened YaRS. I have no hopes for the countries that will place rockets on my home. Except, perhaps, that of Syria. Therefore, we need to understand what ranges we need. 2-3-4-5 t.km.? And we need ships - carriers of Caliber. Not 12pcs, but 50-100pcs each. And stationary launchers for the Kyrgyz Republic or trains with them.
  17. 0
    22 August 2019 17: 19
    "New rocket in 16 days" ... How tired of this massive journalistic psychosis .... The rocket is 40 years old ... As well as the Mk41 launcher ... And they still try to keep us in custody ... Ay-ay-ay, what p-ndos are evil and insidious ...
    Of course, they are for good reason, but here everything was worked out for them back in the USSR ... They just didn’t shoot from the ground. Berkov, submarines and B-52 were enough ...
    And that's enough now, the main task for them is not Axes, but the revival of medium-range ballistic missiles, including in accordance with the new doctrine with "small" nuclear warheads.
    (in the voice of the unforgettable Frunzik Mktrtchyan: "I think so ...")
  18. 0
    23 August 2019 13: 31
    So many weapons are made that it’s probably enough to blow up the entire planet. This is complete insanity.
  19. 0
    23 August 2019 16: 00
    1. To increase the protection of important objects from impacts of the Kyrgyz Republic, for this it is necessary to place them on stationary flying platforms, namely as a separate air defense system of the country:
    Revival of airships. Airships as an important part of the 21st century armed forces - https://topwar.ru/157696-vozrozhdenie-dirizhablej-dirizhabli-kak-vazhnaja-chast-vooruzhennyh-sil-xxi-veka.html

    2. Yes, and the range of independent detection of air defense systems, without wasting aircraft resources would be nice to increase:
    Ensuring the operation of air defense systems on low-flying targets without involving air force aviation - https://topwar.ru/157292-obespechenie-raboty-zrk-po-nizkoletjaschim-celjam-bez-privlechenija-aviacii-vvs.html

    3. It is not known whether it will be possible to deploy their missiles in countries where it can be hit in the United States, and what this will lead to; about 500-600 KR they can be worked out with them:
    Nuclear submarines - carriers of cruise missiles: reality and prospects - https://topwar.ru/153714-atomnye-podvodnye-lodki-nositeli-krylatyh-raket-realnost-i-perspektivy.html

    4. To create a threat to American satellites in Europe and Asia, a good solution could be a missile defense with a missile defense system, according to 160 and more missile defense systems in each, much more invulnerable than stationary mines at American bases:
    Strategic conventional forces: carriers and weapons - https://topwar.ru/161030-strategicheskie-konvencionalnye-sily-nositeli-i-vooruzhenie.html
  20. +1
    23 August 2019 17: 15
    No way. It’s better to get involved in the economy than to compete again in rockets.
  21. 0
    23 August 2019 20: 37
    It would be nice to deploy missiles in friendly countries, the only question is how long are they friendly?
  22. 0
    23 August 2019 22: 40
    Obviously, the missile was not "tested". Start-up is just demonstrated. The United States is ready to deploy its INF in a matter of days or even hours. They are most likely already deployed. Now the task is to create a situation in which Moscow will commit itself not to threaten Berlin and Paris. In return, they will promise various financial and economic "goodies", lull and bring down the existing system from the inside.
    We can say that we are witnessing how the course officially started by Gorbi-Shevardnadze has gone bankrupt, the country is split, plundered, exhausted and faced with threats to which there is no adequate response. For an "adequate response" the country must undergo very rapid and revolutionary changes "from above".

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