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Jet motorcycle and flying board: special vehicles for special forces

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Humanity has always sought to expand the boundaries of its capabilities. Due to the desire of a person to swim underwater like scuba diving and submarines appeared, thanks to the desire to fly like birds appeared balloons and airplanes. Over the past XX century, a huge number of ideas have been generated to create various vehicles. Some of them have become reality, some still remain only on the pages of fantastic works.




It was fantastic literature that gave the world such concepts as a flying motorcycle - a hoverbike, a jetpack - a jetpack and a flying board - a hoverboard. Despite numerous attempts, in the XX century, none of the above vehicles came out of the prototype stage and was not implemented in any finished form.


Hoverbike from the movie The Island


In the 21st century, advances in electronics, sensors, compact and powerful electric motors have allowed us to return again to the idea of ​​creating personal aircraft.

Hoverboard


The greatest success in creating the “flying board” was achieved by the French athlete and inventor Franky Zapata and his company Zapata Industries. In 2005, Zapata Industries introduced the Flyboard flying platform - a powerful pump pumps water through a flexible pipe, connected from a jet ski, which is thrown down with force, allowing the pilot to fly at a height of up to 16 meters. The Flyboard flying platform is designed for entertainment and sports, however, many solutions have been worked out on it, which later made it possible to create more advanced products.


Flying platform flyboard




Zapata Industries' most breakthrough model was the Flyboard Air hoverboard. With its own weight of 25,1 kg, the Flyboard Air carrying capacity was 102 kg, the maximum flight speed is 150-195 km / h, and the maximum ceiling is 1524 meters. 23,3 liter fuel tank capacity, 10 flight duration min. In 2016, the Flyboard Air set a record officially registered in the Guinness Book of Records, the flight range was 2 kilometers 252 meters, covered in 3 minutes 55 seconds.


Franky Zapata and his Flyboard Air



Hoverboard Flyboard Air World Record

The Flyboard Air propulsion system includes four jet engines powered by jet kerosene. Fuel comes from a tank placed in a satchel behind the pilot's back. Each engine produces about 30 kg of thrust, with a dead weight of 3 kg. In addition, the platform is equipped with a pair of additional inertia propeller motors with low inertia, to ensure quick response of the control system. The control system is another important element of Flyboard Air; it compensates wind gusts, weight redistribution due to pilot movements, fuel consumption, engine irregularities with high speed and accuracy and stabilizes the flight of Flyboard Air.

At a military parade held in Paris on the Champs Elysees in honor of Bastille Day, the Flyboard Air hoverboard with a pilot armed with a rifle (or its imitation) participated, which emphasizes the interest shown by the military in this technology.


Flyboard Air at a military parade in the sky over Paris




In what quality can hoverboards in the armed forces be claimed? If someone represents a flock of mobile foot soldiers attacking the enemy on flying boards, then most likely he will be disappointed. At the moment, hoverboards are still cumbersome, difficult to manage devices, and their flight time is extremely limited.

However, there are certain tactical situations where hoverboards may not only be useful, but even irreplaceable.

First of all, we can talk about conducting special operations, for example, to storm buildings, release hostages, etc. In this case, the use of hoverboards will allow you to refuse to use helicopters for landing on the roof of buildings. Hoverboards are delivered to the place of the special operation by road, after which the combat unit can carry out a throw on the roof of the building with the necessary weapons within a few minutes. Among the advantages of this solution, we can name the opportunity to assess the situation on the spot, choose a non-shooting sector for casting, taking into account the architecture of the building, the ability to quickly retreat if necessary.


Helicopter exit to the point, special forces landing (from the seventh minute). In this situation, the strike group could carry out hoverboards from the end of the building, where it is necessary to control only one window

As another example, we can consider the conduct of hostilities in urban areas. In this case, hoverboards can be used, for example, to drop snipers onto a tall building, while all the passages in the building can be mined. Or they can be used to enter the rear of the position defended by the enemy, "jump" over an obstacle.

Also, a hoverboard can be used to occupy the dominant heights in the mountains. Here it is necessary to make a reservation that this will depend on the height to which he is able to rise relative to sea level. According to some reports, the flight height of Flyboard Air can reach 3000-3500 meter, which is already comparable to the flight height of some helicopters. If the enemy has taken an advantageous position that impedes his “head-on” attack, while other areas are difficult to navigate, a maneuvering group on hoverboards can take a position that is more advantageous with respect to the enemy’s position.

It can be argued that the hoverboard pilot is extremely vulnerable in flight, but in fact he is no more, but rather even less vulnerable, than the pilot of a light helicopter. Minimizing the likelihood of a pilot's defeat should be ensured by the suddenness of its use (there is no flying time, like in a helicopter, when it can be detected from afar by the sound of the engines) and by a short flight time, actually a jump. And getting into a small moving target is not as easy as it seems at first glance.

In any of the scenarios, the hoverboard is not regarded as a platform for warfare, but only as a highly mobile means of moving over short distances in specific tactical situations.

In an unmanned version, the hoverboard can be used for delivery weapons and ammunition to a locked battle group.

Hoverbike


The idea of ​​creating a flying motorcycle - a hoverbike, attracts people no less. At the beginning of the XXI century, two ways of creating hoverbikes were outlined. The first is the creation of a flying motorcycle with jet engines, the second is the creation of a flying motorcycle based on technologies used to create unmanned quadrocopters. Accordingly, either liquid fuel or the energy reserve in batteries is used as fuel. Each designated path has both its advantages and difficulties in implementation.

One of the most interesting and supposedly close to realization concepts is the Jetpack Aviation Speeder jet motorcycle. Equipped with four jet engines, Speeder will be able to reach speeds of more than 240 km / h and rise to a height of 5000 meters with a load capacity of 115 kg. Initially, jet engines are planned to be located in the central part of the structure, but this can make driving more difficult and require the introduction of complex autonomous stabilization technologies, so in the future the turbines can be moved closer to the edges of the casing.

The flight time will be about 30 minutes. Is it a lot or a little? Given the declared maximum speed, it is about 100-120 km. It is enough to fly to a country residence, bypassing city traffic jams. Jetpack Aviation has already begun accepting pre-orders for Speeder. The cost of booking a place in the queue is 10 thousand US dollars, and the total cost of a flying motorcycle will be 380 thousand dollars. The first batch will total 20 machines.

The possibility of creating a military version of a jet motorcycle is also being considered. It will have five engines instead of four, the maximum load capacity will be increased.


Jetpack Aviation Jet Speeder



Speede Hoverbike Promotional Presentation

Another model of a hoverbike, developed earlier by the Russian, and now by the American startup Hoversurf, has more modest characteristics. Hoversurf company was founded by St. Petersburg Alexander Atamanov and registered in California in 2014 year.

His flying Scorpion motorcycle got a carbon fiber frame, which weighs less than 114 kg, a hybrid lithium-manganese-nickel battery that can provide 10 to 25 flight minutes depending on the weather and weight of the pilot. In remote control mode, the flight time will be 40 minutes. Hoverbike Scorpion can fly up to 16 meters above the ground, reaching a maximum speed of 96 km per hour.

Despite the more modest performance compared to the Jetpack Aviation Speeder jet bike, the Scorpion hoverbike is significantly closer to implementation. Pre-production prototypes are shown, a purchase order is also open - the price of a hoverbike will be Scorpion 150 thousand dollars. Hoverbike Scorpion is classified as an ultralight vehicle that allows you to fly to the United States without a pilot's license.


Hoversurf Hoverbike Scorpion



Dubai Scorpion Hoverbike Tests by Dubai Police in 2019

Hoversurf plans to release other types of similar aircraft for civilian and special applications.


Hoversurf eVTOL


Looking at this and other projects that “escaped” from Russia, I want to say that the leadership of our country should reconsider its approach to high-tech domestic startups. Otherwise, all that remains then is proud to say that the US helicopter industry was founded by a native of Russia, and to recall numerous other similar examples.

How can hoverbikes be used by military and special units? As in the case of hoverboards, hoverbikes are hardly worth considering as military vehicles designed to deliver air strikes against the enemy, although their further use cannot be completely ruled out.

First of all, hoverbikes can be used for prompt delivery of special forces. In the event of a terrorist threat, the score can go on for minutes. Procrastination will allow terrorists to equip firing points and install mine-explosive devices. At the same time, the congestion of city highways does not allow special vehicles to quickly advance to the necessary positions. Hoverbikes will provide special units with the highest response speed to threats that cannot be provided by any other type of vehicle.

They can perform a similar function for ground units of the armed forces - to quickly provide assistance, to transfer arms and ammunition as quickly as possible over a distance of about 100 kilometers, to advance to positions and take them ahead of the enemy. Moreover, in the future, the hoverbikes can return to the base in autopilot mode so as not to additionally unmask the fighters. Or vice versa, in unmanned mode, advance to the indicated point and ensure the evacuation of the ground unit.

The most important area of ​​using hoverbikes can be their use by doctors to provide emergency medical care to both civilians and the military in case of injuries. For many types of diseases or injuries, the count is not just minutes, but seconds.



How true the proposed scenarios for the use of hoverboards and hoverbikes will be shown by time, but now almost all the developers of this type of aircraft provide for the possibility of their military and special use. With a high probability these types of aircraft will be in demand not only in the civilian market, but also as vehicles of the armed forces and special forces.
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topwar.ru, popmech.ru, zapata.com, building-tech.org, jetpackaviation.com, hoversurf.com
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  1. g1washntwn
    g1washntwn 21 August 2019 07: 29 New
    +2
    As long as there is no sane control interface associated with the stabilization system of such platforms, the hoverbikes will be either purely circus juggling, or enlarged copies of ordinary quadrocopters with a futures design. Where to sell them is not a question. And about the difficulty of getting into a small target - skeet shooting as an example for training.
    1. Shopping Mall
      21 August 2019 07: 54 New
      +3
      Quote: g1washntwn
      As long as there is no sane control interface associated with the stabilization system of such platforms, the hoverbikes will be either purely circus juggling, or enlarged copies of ordinary quadrocopters with a futures design.


      Due to the fact that such systems appeared (including most likely due to the development of quadrocopters), it became possible to create hoverbikes and hoverboards.

      Quote: g1washntwn
      Where to sell them is not a question.

      Of course it’s not a question, of those who have enough money, many will want to buy such a thing, it's almost fantastic.

      Quote: g1washntwn
      And about the difficulty of getting into a small target - skeet shooting as an example for training.


      I shot at skeet, and I can imagine what it is, but it’s a gun up to 50 meters. And now the same from the machine gun / machine gun with 200-400 meters.
      1. swnvaleria
        swnvaleria 21 August 2019 11: 02 New
        +1
        I tried somehow to shoot from the sks on skeet, it didn’t work, I also got it on the ears, the young one was stupid, I didn’t think then how much the bullet was flying, and how much the fraction
      2. g1washntwn
        g1washntwn 21 August 2019 11: 23 New
        +2
        Quote: AVM
        Due to the fact that such systems appeared

        ... pardon me, the platform operator can already simultaneously maneuver (not autopilot!) and perform the second action without the risk of sticking his head into an obstacle such as "ground"? Can the platform take over the execution of a flight mission in a dynamically changing situation? Where are such systems created interesting? So far, even the super-hyped and expensive "digital" F-35, when the pilot loses consciousness, simply turns into a falling piece of plastic and electronics. I'm talking about AI that works in parallel (or perpendicular, as it seems to anyone) to the consciousness of the operator of such a platform. Making an elementary digital replacement of the vestibular apparatus for an anthropodroid is already a problem, and here you also need to interact. So I ask for an example in the studio.
    2. Civil
      Civil 21 August 2019 08: 22 New
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      Or you can at least start with a complete set of quadrics, snowmobiles and motor boats of the army, without any exotic.
    3. Same lech
      Same lech 21 August 2019 08: 30 New
      +4
      The plates fly along a well-known trajectory ... they just took the necessary lead taking into account the speed and fell from the heart.
      If the target unpredictably sharply changes the speed and direction of movement, getting into it is not easy.
      I am with both hands for this innovation ... the prospects are simply amazing.
      You can skip impassable places in swampy areas ... fly into rocky cliffs and cliffs, inaccessible even to mountain goats ... you can finally use it as a quick way to save tourists or people in burning high-rise buildings ... only again, the trouble must be invested in the development of an existing sample big money ... from our hucksters and the state I do not see any movements in this direction.
      An eternal Russian misfortune with talented and necessary inventions.
      1. g1washntwn
        g1washntwn 21 August 2019 10: 47 New
        +2
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        then he just took the necessary lead taking into account the speed and fell heartily.

        Can we compete if everything is so simple with you? It's difficult to get in, but NOT impossible. Remember that only the agent (AI) and Neo from "The Matrix" managed to dodge the bullet, and even then they could not shoot while dodging. It is not necessary to exaggerate the possibility of evasion, especially applicable to manned vehicles. In addition, if we are talking about future use, then the means of counteraction also do not stand still, which can multiply military prospects by almost zero. On manned aircraft of the Nth generation, an evacuation capsule with a pilot like a hoverbike would give the pilots a lot more chances, but even here there are some nuances, like the use of special forces.
      2. abc_alex
        abc_alex 22 August 2019 08: 01 New
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        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        If the target unpredictably sharply changes the speed and direction of movement, getting into it is not easy.


        Eeeee, huh? Could you ask the helicopter pilots (they are closest to such things) what it feels like to fly "unpredictably, sharply changing the speed and direction of movement." You yourself, once or twice, try to somehow accelerate at least 60 kilometers per hour and sharply change the direction of movement. :)

        There can be no "abrupt change". There is a man on the machine. It will not be nailed to it or pulled by straps. With a sharp maneuver, he will either fly off the car or lose the ability to control it due to overloads. Therefore, as in all other types of trasport from a horse to an airplane, the flight on these things will usually be uniformly accelerated and straight. The human vestibular apparatus cannot be fooled. And no one will train hoverbikers under the aerobatic pilot program.

        And as soon as such machines appear in production, means of dealing with them will be developed immediately. It will be necessary - there will be powerful automatic shotguns, or MANPADS reduced to the size of RPGs or wearable flamethrower systems with OD ammunition will be adapted to deal with them. And there will be a real danger from them, then anti-aircraft artillery systems of machine-gun calibers.
    4. gridasov
      gridasov 30 October 2019 21: 33 New
      0
      The foundation of development lies in the application of the new mover. And already it is based on effective flight control methods.
  2. gridasov
    gridasov 21 August 2019 08: 02 New
    -1
    All fantasies rest on the proportionality of such parameters as 30 kg of thrust with a weight of 3 kg, as well as fuel consumption providing these 30 kg of thrust. Everything else can be drawn in your fantasies as forms and applications endlessly. So the conversation is about the fundamental and key tasks of creating such new proportions that, like a process, will produce traction parameters that are several orders of magnitude higher with even less weight and not energy consumption, but other proportional parameters, i.e. the engine will be both a generator. In general, only new devices in the form of a combined propulsion with a reactor for converting potential energy of air and at the same time performing the function of a generator can open the way for the realization of fantasies and dreams of a person to fly freely.
  3. Undecim
    Undecim 21 August 2019 09: 06 New
    +2
    We need to look at the prospect and go straight to levitation so that any fighter can move freely in space.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 21 August 2019 09: 27 New
      +2
      Quote: Undecim
      We must look at the perspective and go straight to levitation, so that any fighter can move freely in space.

      What for? If you have mastered levitation, then it will be easier to levitate everything that is necessary and to literate everything that is not necessary. The main thing in this business is not to miss laughing

  4. Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 21 August 2019 09: 29 New
    +3
    It's interesting to imagine a hoverbike club like the Night Wolves. Although wolves do not fly, so there will be some "Night Butterflies".
    And what should a real hoverchopper look like?
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 21 August 2019 10: 22 New
      0
      I can imagine how in the night Putin’s profile appears in the sky on a flying biker ... there will be enough of all his enemies.
    2. g1washntwn
      g1washntwn 21 August 2019 10: 50 New
      +3
      Quote: Narak-zempo
      And what should a real hoverchopper look like?

      Harry Potter broom, or stupa, if you are closer to the Russian ethnic group lol
    3. swnvaleria
      swnvaleria 21 August 2019 11: 05 New
      0
      probably like a flock of flying betmen
    4. SASHA OLD
      SASHA OLD 26 October 2019 18: 24 New
      0
      Quote: Narak-zempo
      And what should a real hoverchopper look like?


      probably something like this
  5. Operator
    Operator 21 August 2019 10: 57 New
    -4
    None of what is shown in the article will take off, unambiguously - an individual aircraft must have a point of application of the thrust force above the pilot's center of gravity, otherwise the ILA's accident rate will go off scale - it is not for nothing that all such experienced "flying boards" are demonstrated in public in flight over water there was where to fall (the exception was the flight of the Frenchman at the parade, but what to take from these paddling pools).

    Therefore, only rucksack ILA with shoulder jet engines or a coaxial rotor above the pilot’s head have at least some prospect.

    Flapping flight steers bully
    1. Shopping Mall
      21 August 2019 11: 17 New
      +5
      Quote: Operator
      None of what is shown in the article will take off, unambiguously - an individual aircraft must have a point of application of the thrust force above the pilot's center of gravity, otherwise the ILA's accident rate will go off scale - it is not for nothing that all such experienced "flying boards" are demonstrated in public in flight over water there was where to fall (the exception was the flight of the Frenchman at the parade, but what to take from these paddling pools).


      But the developers do not know.

      ... the platform is equipped with a pair of additional inertia propeller motors with low inertia, to ensure a quick response of the control system. The control system is another important element of Flyboard Air, it with high speed and accuracy compensates for wind gusts, weight redistribution due to the movements of the pilot, fuel consumption, uneven engine operation and stabilizes the flight of Flyboard Air.


      In almost all quadcopter-type small-vehicle projects, the cab is located above the propellers. Control systems are just designed to compensate for all deviations of the aircraft. It began with the creation of EMDS and statically unstable aircraft, just now the possibility of electronics has grown by several orders of magnitude, more accurate gyroscopes and other sensors have appeared. Algorithms worked out on quadrocopters.

      Quote: Operator
      Therefore, only rucksack ILA with shoulder jet engines or a coaxial rotor above the pilot’s head have at least some prospect. Flapping flight steers bully


      For some reason, manufacturers have no interest in this direction.
      1. Operator
        Operator 21 August 2019 12: 02 New
        -5
        No control system can compensate for the overturning moment in the event of a failure or a simple gust of wind exceeding the thrust of the turbojet engine or propeller thrust located below the center of gravity of the standing / sitting pilot on the aircraft.

        If the manufacturers presented in the article do not have brains, then this is not a sign of their effectiveness. laughing
        1. Vol4ara
          Vol4ara 22 August 2019 10: 52 New
          0
          Quote: Operator
          No control system can compensate for the overturning moment in the event of a failure or a simple gust of wind exceeding the thrust of the turbojet engine or propeller thrust located below the center of gravity of the standing / sitting pilot on the aircraft.

          If the manufacturers presented in the article do not have brains, then this is not a sign of their effectiveness. laughing

          No system can ensure a smooth flight in case of engine failure on an airplane or helicopter, do you propose to abandon them?
          There is nothing to fly in non-flying weather, and there will be no gusts of wind. The gusts of wind can also add up, and flying a deltaleta is even possible in hot weather with hemorrhoids, but nonetheless people fly
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 21 August 2019 14: 35 New
    +3
    A "heavy" quadrocopter with external control is an irreplaceable thing if you need to drop ammunition on an autonomous group, or take away a wounded one. And you don't need to manually control it. wassat
  7. E.S.
    E.S. 21 August 2019 23: 32 New
    0
    Quote: Civil
    Or you can at least start with a complete set of quadrics, snowmobiles and motor boats of the army, without any exotic.

    That is why in a normal regular army quadrics and snowmobiles?
    If only in a neighboring village to drive the girls charm.
    In military operations, this thing may be needed in homeopathic quantities because one fighter has nowhere to go, and ten should already go to BMP
  8. E.S.
    E.S. 21 August 2019 23: 35 New
    -3
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    A "heavy" quadrocopter with external control is an irreplaceable thing if you need to drop ammunition on an autonomous group, or take away a wounded one. And you don't need to manually control it. wassat

    If an autonomously operating group began to feel an acute need for ammunition, then 99% would need evacuation of corpses, not quadric cartridges
  9. E.S.
    E.S. 21 August 2019 23: 43 New
    -1
    Quote: The same Lech
    The plates fly along a well-known trajectory ... they just took the necessary lead taking into account the speed and fell from the heart.
    If the target unpredictably sharply changes the speed and direction of movement, getting into it is not easy.
    I am with both hands for this innovation ... the prospects are simply amazing.
    You can skip impassable places in swampy areas ... fly into rocky cliffs and cliffs, inaccessible even to mountain goats ... you can finally use it as a quick way to save tourists or people in burning high-rise buildings ... only again, the trouble must be invested in the development of an existing sample big money ... from our hucksters and the state I do not see any movements in this direction.
    An eternal Russian misfortune with talented and necessary inventions.

    Yes, flying and rushing about in the air is very kind on the part of the enemy. First you need to find him, then pick out mortars from the trench / mortar, all this is long and troublesome, and against the sky with concentrated fire at least a platoon they will shoot everyone with great pleasure. Especially nice is that a hit means a dead person, taking into account the altitude of the flight, it is intended!
    Yes, even as the whole of this audience will take off just like that - it will be immediately detected, almost instantly, while flying - you can raise the sleeping soldiers on alert
  10. E.S.
    E.S. 21 August 2019 23: 46 New
    -1
    Quote: Operator
    No control system can compensate for the overturning moment in the event of a failure or a simple gust of wind exceeding the thrust of the turbojet engine or propeller thrust located below the center of gravity of the standing / sitting pilot on the aircraft.

    If the manufacturers presented in the article do not have brains, then this is not a sign of their effectiveness. laughing

    It’s still we have not begun to think how this clown-equilibrist will shoot from his gun.
    The Jedi are desperately needed for cutting with a laser sword from the Howebord! Hovereria will still show itself!
  11. M. Michelson
    M. Michelson 22 August 2019 01: 53 New
    +1
    But for whom else hoverboards are still very necessary - this is for firefighters. Drop troops on the roof of a burning skyscraper to install winches there, along which the main forces will go to the necessary floors. Or just fly up to the windows and pick up blocked people.
    1. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich 23 August 2019 00: 11 New
      0
      Just a question. How to change from the window to a "flying motorcycle"? My opinion is that where the retractable ladder of the fire engine does not reach, the winches will not help. It is more reasonable to use "small helicopters" (for example, the Ka-226) to evacuate victims from the roofs or to land a fire brigade there. hi
  12. abc_alex
    abc_alex 22 August 2019 08: 22 New
    0


    hoverbayki can be used for prompt delivery of special forces. In the event of a terrorist threat, the score can go on for minutes. Procrastination will allow terrorists to equip firing points and install mine-explosive devices. At the same time, the congestion of city highways does not allow special vehicles to quickly advance to the necessary positions. Hoverbikes will provide special units with the highest response speed to threats that cannot be provided by any other type of vehicle.

    They can perform a similar function for ground units of the armed forces - to quickly provide assistance, to transfer arms and ammunition to a distance of about 100 kilometers as soon as possible, to advance to positions and take them ahead of the enemy.



    I have one big question. To the author. And he considered the energy feasibility of equipping a special forces group with individual hover platforms? Why hoverbikes, not hoverbuses? All the advantages of flying technology are clear, but why single? Think about it, because today is full of single or double helicopters and airplanes. Is there at least one army in the world whose special forces are moving in dozens of single-seaters, and not in a couple of three-seater vehicles? Even such relatively simple means as paragliders and motor-deltas, and then practically nowhere except Hollywood are used. Why do you think?
    1. Shopping Mall
      22 August 2019 09: 37 New
      0
      Quote: abc_alex
      I have one big question. To the author. And he considered the energy feasibility of equipping a special forces group with individual hover platforms? Why hoverbikes, not hoverbuses? All the advantages of flying technology are clear, but why single? Think about it, because today is full of single or double helicopters and airplanes. Is there at least one army in the world whose special forces are moving in dozens of single-seaters, and not in a couple of three-seater vehicles? Even such relatively simple means as paragliders and motor-deltas, and then practically nowhere except Hollywood are used. Why do you think?


      Because no hoverbuses exist and are not being developed, and for group transportation there are convertiplanes, helicopters, light transporters, etc. All these tools are good, but they work from airfields, they need pilots, interaction with the Air Force, etc.

      In principle, the application niches I have proposed are described in the article, but I can repeat:

      Hoverboards (flying board) are not for long flights. In fact, they are for jumping - to jump onto the building and attack the enemy from above, jump onto the ledge, onto the mountain, flying around the enemy's firing position, which he holds, relying on the fact that climbing can be bypassed only with climbing equipment. Those. flights on 1-2 minutes, no more, no hovering and hovering.
      Hoverboards in the amount of 4-6 pcs. may well lie in an armored personnel carrier or a supply vehicle specifically for such cases, or in police special vehicles for conducting hostage rescue operations by some sort of SWAT. You can use them promptly, without waiting for the arrival of the helicopter.

      Hoverbike is about the same. An operational means of transfer. 4-6 pcs. by truck, flight speed 240 km / h. This is the distance to 100-120 km, radius 50-60 km. What are the alternatives? Everything else must be called up, agreed upon.

      I have no doubts. Hoverboards will remain a niche tool, but hoverbikes (primarily of a quadrocopter type) will eventually begin to evolve like cell phones, and when you tell your children that there weren't any before, you will hear the question: “How did you live without them then? ".
      1. English tarantas
        English tarantas 22 August 2019 13: 31 New
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        Hoverboards will remain a niche tool

        Personally, I see a hoverboard in combination with exosuits. The application niche is huge: from the army to tourism. An exosuit gives carrying capacity and protection, and a hoverboard mobility. True, both the one and the one run into one problem - the power source, but this is a matter of time: as with a steam engine and a nuclear reactor.
      2. abc_alex
        abc_alex 22 August 2019 19: 36 New
        0
        Quote: AVM
        Hoverboards (flying board) are not for long flights. In fact, they are for jumping - to jump onto a building and attack the enemy from above, jump onto a ledge, onto a mountain, flying around the enemy’s firing position,

        And the enemy at this time, I suppose, should sleep? The Hoverboard carries a slightly better protected infantry than nothing. What will prevent you from shooting him during this risky stunt? Even if one day there are boards capable of confidently holding 200-250 kg (and this is, whatever one may say, but necessary: ​​an infantryman with ammunition is a centner, plus "military" reserve standards), an infantryman on them will still be a single fighter. Unable to pilot and fire at the same time, can only see ahead and vulnerable to heavy infantry weapons.

        Quote: AVM
        Hoverbike is about the same. An operational means of transfer. 4-6 pcs. by truck, flight speed 240 km / h. This is the distance to 100-120 km, radius 50-60 km. What are the alternatives? Everything else must be called up, agreed upon.


        Have you ever piloted anything at a speed of 240 km / h while sitting on this horse? Me not. But in one of the conversations, such an uncle Inshakov Alexander Ivanovich, sharing his experience of driving a Honda Gold Wind, said that he would probably have dispersed it to 200, but "with ... Scary." smile
        In terms of speed, I would recommend that you cut the sturgeon twice that way.

        Why did you decide that you don’t have to coordinate the departure on hoverbikes? :) Here, the ban and approval are distributed to quadrocopters, and even for your fantastic cars, all the more coordination will be required.

        And again I ask the same question, why tales? Is it really more convenient to maintain twenty bikes in constant airworthiness than a single bead? Yes, there are no hovers now. But not because the concept is bad. They are not, because there is nothing to make them yet.

        And there is an alternative to hoverbikes - small helicopters, ultralight airplanes, gyroplanes, motor-scratches, motor-deltas. It is full of alternatives with much more energetic energy than vertical flight.

        Quote: AVM
        hoverbayki (primarily quadrocopter type) over time will begin to evolve as cell phones,


        Maybe so. In the civilian sector, much is determined by the situation. But the military has a different logic. Can this device increase the combat effectiveness of a fighter? In my opinion, no. Noisy, difficult to operate, not protected and not protecting, combining all the worst aspects of a motorcycle and a helicopter ...
  13. timokhin-aa
    timokhin-aa 22 August 2019 10: 01 New
    +1
    Looking at this and other projects that “escaped” from Russia, I want to say that the leadership of our country should reconsider its approach to high-tech domestic startups. Otherwise, all that remains then is proud to say that the US helicopter industry was founded by a native of Russia, and to recall numerous other similar examples.


    We have such an attitude towards private initiative, and not just high-tech.
  14. Operator
    Operator 22 August 2019 10: 57 New
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    Quote: Vol4ara
    Nothing to fly in non-flying weather

    Type - there is nothing to conduct military operations in non-flying weather (for flying boards) laughing

    PS For outboard motors and propellers, a failure of the stabilization system or a gusty wind does not lead to disaster, which makes the ALA weather-independent.
    1. English tarantas
      English tarantas 22 August 2019 13: 35 New
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      Type - there is nothing to conduct military operations in non-flying weather (for flying boards)

      Well, in a storm the ship will not leave the port, and the plane will not take off. Yes, and I'm sure the infantry will not move much.
  15. vdm
    vdm 22 August 2019 12: 53 New
    +1
    Flying motorcycle from Russia:
    https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3946517
  16. vdm
    vdm 22 August 2019 12: 58 New
    +1
    photo of a flying motorcycle of the Russian Federation of the company "Aeroxo":
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  18. Izotovp
    Izotovp 22 August 2019 13: 23 New
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    Flight on all hovers in the city? Through all the wires?
  19. Operator
    Operator 22 August 2019 13: 46 New
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    Quote: English tarantass
    in a storm ... the plane will not take off

    This is not about the use of SLA in a storm (~ 100 m / s), but in conditions of simple gusts of wind (~ 10 m / s).
  20. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 23 August 2019 00: 28 New
    +1
    Many people ask - why is the "flying motorcycle" no longer used in the army? A counter question - why is it rare in the army that ,, ordinary motorcycles ,,? Let's remember the "air motorcycle" Ka-8 "Irkutyanin" (1946), Ka-10 (1948), Ka-56 "Wasp" (1971) - is that not enough for you ...? hi
  21. srha
    srha 20 October 2019 21: 36 New
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    Any boards and stories are perversions of common sense over human physiology. A person has legs with a foot and a developed movement pattern. The transition from it to skis, skates, snowshoes, stilts or walking boots is a really solved problem by millions, despite the presence of instability such as the center of gravity above the fulcrum. Therefore, for an individual jet flight, the system must be attached to the boot (foot), which provides the best control. Those. two sliders for the right boot: one in front of the boot, the second in the back. The left boot is the same as the right. All stabilization will then consist in electronic control (coordination) of the impulse of force. There are such engines and systems (even on aliexpress there are almost similar ones, there the control (response) is insufficient). True, so far one engine is sold about (what I found on the internet) & 40000, its resource is several hours (4 hours), which means the cost of such an individual flight (one refueling for 20 minutes (0,3 hours)) today will be about (& 40000х4) / (4 / 0.3), wow, 850 rubles. Although for an unexpected night (well, what if the stars will form like that?) Jump with a knapsack of 000 kg and boots of 20 kg from the window of a skyscraper ... To increase flight safety, it is recommended to train for several tens of millions and not be limited to 8 engines, but use 4 -6 is smaller, which then will cost one and a half times more.
  22. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 15 November 2019 20: 09 New
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    It is necessary to entrust the development of Chubais or Ragozin. It turns out which thread nanohover